Aason is becoming an interim head coach. Collin didn’t make any changes. Brandon is upset about why things happen. We dive into why it’s so important to know WHO has the decision making power. Plus, Brandon has new bike parts! In-coming review….

Collin didn’t change anything this week!
Aaron may be head coach…
It’s not a lot of fun
The life and times of an athletics coach

Collin problematizing
Brandon upset about “why” things happen
Halo effect of company products
Who is making the decision?

Schools spending money and decision making failures
New bike parts for Brandon
One more cog
Collin hiring and staffing woes
Daddy Daughter Dance
Coffee update coming!

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SPEAKERS

Collin, Aaron, Brandon

Brandon 00:04

Welcome to Oh, brother, a podcast three brothers. Trying to figure it all out with your hosts, Brandon, Colin, and Aaron. On this week show. One more calm. Hello. Hello. Can you hear me okay today? Actually, yes. Ah, that means ah I didn't. I didn't Well, we've heard that before. And but it was just like magically like, no. It's gone wrong hotswap right now, huh? No, no, no, don't jinx it. I'll stop. I'll stop it was a nice sunny day. Wonderful to be outside. Oh, good. True must be nice. Say you're ready for more rain. Oh, yeah. Time. Rain time well not like tomorrow but like later this week I think more exciting weather. Whoo

Collin 01:17

be when I go to record the intro for the episode. I can tell that I always have audience a crowded at the door. Because a my kids are not very healthy. But be they always giggle after I say that is true as they run away. And it's very one.

Brandon 01:40

Athlete do it. So sneak peeks here, ladies and gentlemen. Because you're basically here like, what is no one? Not even we know. It's fine. Even we have no, but it just makes me laugh every time. They like I like the week like cyber telling mystery selling they were like Yeah. Like, I don't even want to tackle that first one because I don't even know what that means. But fine. Everything's fine. It's a little peek behind the curtain their process. artiste? Oh, indeed. Yes. It's very artistic. Very, it's very something that is yes. Very something. Yes. That's a good way to put it. Ah, Aaron. Aaron, what's what's new in your neck of the woods. Um, I have a live event. I did an interesting last 24 hours. High school

Aaron 02:57

football coach was fired. And so we're kind of in panic mode, because we have drinkable stuff coming in, like two weeks. And it's kind of late in the season. Did a higher

Brandon 03:13

coat. So we're kind of like a what do we do know that panic mode, I'm still going to say testing.

Aaron 03:31

And then the old baseball coach that's kind of put me in charge of the program. So I'm kind of like a drum head baseball coach, as I kind of like, learn, like the administration part of thing. And so we're trying to do we're working on our hitting facility, which as of the moment is a metal horn. off and on for the summer. So yeah, it's been a little weird. today. We're testing and then the stuff went down. Well, I know we're not going to have we don't have a coke right now. Week. So

Brandon 04:13

right now with the other assistant and myself and like, help somebody please. Don't know what to do. What do you want to? Yeah, we're good. Yeah, we're gonna be limping through the first part of the season until we kind of get something situated because as of the moment, we're just like, well, we'll do something until someone tell us not do it. Could happen. So yeah, that's kind of what we are as of this moment. But the old baseball coach is really excited. He's

Aaron 04:54

he's trying to retire. And so he's like, all my name will be on the paperwork, but it's pretty much your show. I'm just gonna help you get situated and then I'm just gonna let you kind of just take it. So he's only, like, a, I'm gonna start pulling out the class every once in a while and we're gonna go work on the field or we're gonna go, you know, power wash the concrete, the inside of our barn, doing good, like perks up, down. And so it's, yeah, we got a testing. We have award ceremonies coming up for, like athletics and academics. And so we're trying to do that plus trying to get

Brandon 05:42

graduation setup. And

Aaron 05:46

everybody, we're going, we're gonna go right, and then now it's kind of like, going to the finish line of just getting things done. That's definitely how I feel right now. You're a lot bigger than me.

Brandon 06:02

We're just like, yep. I mean, yeah. Like, I don't have anything say that we Yeah, that's

Aaron 06:10

a lot to say, Oh, we also there's a K through eight school down the road from us. And I have to go try to recruit kids from their feeder schools, to our schools that are numbers next year for athletics. So he's, like, ever tried to recruit before? And I'm like, no, like, wow. Well, good luck, you're gonna learn?

Brandon 06:35

It sounds horrible. So I,

Aaron 06:38

I have to go over to this other school, being like, hey, look, are you a theatre? Who's going to be fresh next year? You got a choice? Like, I know, you have a lot of schools around that, like, you know, you know, what did you but like, this is the reason why, you know, our schools and investments of all the benefits have been central to all what we can offer. So I want to go forth, and just see if I can get some of these kids. So there's,

Brandon 07:08

there's some kids there, that will definitely help out our football program. But there's a lot of kids that there that would definitely help out our baseball. So yeah, I gotta go talk to eighth graders from a completely different school.

Aaron 07:22

Yeah, because they because they only go through eighth grade, then they have the choice of going to other locations in Oklahoma. Now, the law or the rule is that you can transfer like, you don't have to go you don't have to live in the same district to go to that school. Because we have a lot of kids that live in like a very like, like, much bigger, like school district, but they choose us because at first.

Brandon 07:48

That makes sense. Yeah. So they have to have the hustle and bustle of life. But yeah, we, we get a lot of those kids but not enough to like, be like, truly active, if that makes sense. And so

Aaron 08:05

we're gonna start trying to get some of those in over and see if we can, you know, work with that. So, yeah, that's, uh, that's my week. everything was hunky dory yesterday. And then literally, everything went to 102. Or zero to 100. Like, perfect.

Brandon 08:28

Yeah, that doesn't sound like fun. That sounds terrible. Yeah, dang.

Collin 08:41

Yeah, I mean, sudden, sudden changes like that are always hard to like. They're hard to I think first wrap your brain around exactly how it impacts us. Specifically, I think mail baby for you. Aaron is a little bit more clear of like, well, the person who was doing this job is now not so hello. But still, it's like there's still a lot more to that where you're like, I don't know, where the stops I don't know how much this is going to actually impact me right until you start doing it. And that that's one of the for me. That's one of the reasons why sudden changes like that are so scary.

Brandon 09:22

Yeah, that's true. And why they're super annoying, right? Because it's like, you know, when people are like are changing this like why? And there's usually never a reason I mean that that specific example is slightly different than what I'm talking about but like, like we're doing this now. Like okay, why isn't that like because thinks it's real cool of you. I really appreciate. I really, really appreciate that's really helpful. Yeah, there was a big we actually had like a full board meeting about all the teachers coming back, but they had a National Meeting for meeting for him. And it's just like, Ah, cool.

Aaron 10:09

Good ID worried and all the some of the people on school board like No, no, no, no, you're fine. We're not worried about you. Oh, thank you yet.

Brandon 10:20

That's why being a coach, you could not pay me enough money to coach anything in high school. Nothing. Because like, the parents are so horrible. Right? Don't be like we had win enough games like we're 10 into that started off games fire, like, they go complain to school board, and then you're just like, fired. And there's like nothing you can do about it. Except you. There is not enough money in the world that you could pay me to coach anything high school related. I'd never met number one, because I don't know enough about anything to be coached. But number two, number one, I wouldn't because that we should to begin with, at some schools, not all schools, obviously. Right. But at some schools, the culture in the community is so horribly toxic, that there's just no way or no way. No, I don't want anywhere near any of that. And that that is a really big factor, especially like really big schools because a lot of the places that I did interview at were like, one of the questions or that they asked me like, how do you do with parents? Like I don't know. I've always been a small school. So smaller school. Thankfully, I'm a school that is very, like, supportive. Oh, all right. So he's done a call. Okay. Update is very important work call right now. So anyway, yeah. So there you go. Fun fact, continuing on, until he rejoins, so edit in now, boom, okay, so we got

Collin 12:20

no big changes like that, to me are sudden changes like that are very difficult for me to process in the moment because, like I said, the number of unknown just like, is the bottleneck in my brain processing. So a lot of times what helped me work through that is really catastrophizing, and working through all of the possible, mostly bad, horrible, terrible.

Brandon 12:50

I feel like that, that actually helps you. I see, I feel like in certain sections, that's like the worst possible thing you could do, because then you just don't get anything actually accomplished. You just like think about all the bad things that can happen and you're stuck there. And you're not thinking about like, like, I'm not dwelling on them. I'm actually like, actively thinking about problems. And then just basically like writing them down. So I'm not saying they're in with just like brooding with a storm cloud over me or huddled underneath the blanket on the couch or like paralyzed with fear, although that does happen.

Collin 13:30

But I'm trying to just start my brain, I'm trying to force my brain to just start processing something and working through one piece at a time trying to get the sand grains dislodged. So that something starts flowing, because otherwise, I'm just stuck. Am I just did I do just start kind of being a wash in a sea of unknown and

Brandon 13:53

terror? That's fair, I guess. Yeah. I don't know. I just like a lot of these things, especially in like, like an employment setting. Right. It's always like, part of me just because I just get like really frustrated, like, okay, cool. You know, whenever I guess you just decided this for no reason, right? And then, so I get upset. Like, this week, I've been slightly upset about this kind of scenario, because that happens. And then there's some other things where they'll be like, Well, we really want your input. And I'm like, based on your previous, my previous experience with this situation, you don't actually so like, just tell me what you want to do, and stop like, horsing around. And like, just tell me like this. The anger stems from this. We had a conference call thing Monday, about like, a potential new technology. Right, and it's like a giant thing, right? Like this huge deal. And for in the classroom, right? Yeah. And then the follow up email for the principal was like, let me know if you're interested. Like, what? Wait, wait, what do you mean? If this is either something school's gonna do or not? Just Just decide what you think we should do? Like, is it really gonna be like, eight people want this thing? And then you're just gonna get it for them? That's weird. Like, I don't know, like, are you gonna get it for everybody? Because that's a very different conversation like, I don't care. Right? I'm going to use whatever tools you give me, right? If you're gonna be like, Hey, we're buying this for your room and be like, okay, cool, I'll use it. But like, if you're not gonna buy it, I'm gonna be like, okay, cool. I don't like I'm already doing stuff. So like, whatever. You know what I mean? Like, it's not. It's not like, hindering me by not having it right. But if I do have it, as long as it is talking to my other grade level teachers, and I was basically just like, Okay, if the only thing I care about is, can I use this thing? To do? Exactly what I'm doing right now? Yeah. And then improve upon it. That's what I want. I don't want to have to do a completely new thing. Right? I want to take the stuff I'm already doing, and then be able to make it better. I don't want to completely change my approach, because that's not useful to me. It's not helpful. It's like, I don't actually care. Right? Because it's not like you're going to, by not having this thing, it's not going to make my I'm not gonna able to do less. Right. I just want to know, can I do what I'm already doing? Plus more? That's what I want. I don't mean, I don't want to do something new. No, no, that's not useful. Because then it's a whole new planning process that I'm not

Collin 17:15

about, that doesn't meet my minimum, minimum, like not my minimum functionality. But my current functionality. Yeah. And you want to do is bring in something new. And it's frustrating when people go like, hey, like, what are your thoughts? And they leave it very vague? Because in those situations, I do I want to know, what are you going to do with my thoughts? My thoughts actually impact this. There's always a big question, ask of like, okay, who's, who's the ultimate decision maker here? And how are they using

Brandon 17:44

input? isn't me. So like, I I know that like, I get very cynical about this thing, because there's been so many times where I've been like, oh, yeah, let me tell you, I think and then they're like, Okay, cool. Anyway, like, all right, well, I just wasted all my time putting up this effort, and you clearly didn't care. So.

Collin 18:07

Yeah. And then then you become defeated, and you start giving less input. Right. And this is something that I watched a lot. Yeah. at MDC, looking at the people who had been there like the lifers there for 30 years, and going like, wow, like, Why? Why is this person so jaded? Why is that and then realizing like? Well, because they've like, they haven't been respected this entire time? Or recently, right? They don't feel like they are getting the feedback, or the appropriate weight is being given to what they have, say? Or if you do that for long enough, of course, nobody's going to be interested in speaking up or volunteering or giving Yeah, or ideas? Of course not. And that just looks like a unfortunate, what that can look like in a company is that the old disgruntled employee, and they're just old and grabby. And well, it's like, well, have you been treating them? Well, for 30 years? Let's be honest. Probably not. Yeah, that's no. I understand. So you haven't there for 30 years, and they're angry because it's not the it's not like it used to be like probably the good old days. That's totally a legitimate thing as well. I'm just saying like, nobody really takes a step back and go, well, like why, like, are we just, is this just a general assumption where we go off course they're grumpy, they've been here for 30 years? Or there we go. Why are they like that? Like, it just, it makes me think of that kind of thing of going, Why do these people actually feel respected? And like their, like their time is being valued? Right? going to ask me for input? I want I don't want to know how it's going to impact your decision. If you're just asking because you feel I will. I'm obligated to ask it's an obligatory just like, oh, they told me to ask for input so anybody have input, but it's not really going to impact? Well, then I'm done. I'm not going

Brandon 19:58

to tell you that Yeah, if it's just the courtesy, I'm not gonna play games with me, right? Like, they'll be like, Oh, I have to ask this question, right? It's like, you know, just one of those things like, I'm just doing it as a courtesy, I don't actually care. Right. And it's some people, you can clearly tell it what they're doing. Right. Other times, it's a bit more ambiguous. But there are definitely instances where it's like, yeah, you know, I could tell by the tone of your voice and your body language, but you don't actually care what I have to say, it's I'm just sort of wasting my time right now. You're just checking boxes at this point. Right? I don't I can, I can tell by the fact that you're only using buzzwords in your conversation, that you already have a plan. And you don't really care. Yeah. It's just like, Oh, I'm just gonna make it seem like I care. Do these things like, Yeah, it's fine.

Collin 20:57

That's why that question of, how are you going to use my input? Before I give it, and that can be kind of awkward to ask some people I know. But like, I have done that in times past with either people who have surveys or even at MDC, when they would ask, how are you useless? And sometimes they'd say, Well, you know, we're, we're not, like, exactly like, well, that's just, I'm here to ask you. So anyway, because I'm going now, I'd say, Well, what we do is we are interviewing people, and we're gonna take all their responses, and we're gonna group them together and see if there's a common theme of response people are saying, and that will help us determine, you know, if we're gonna go into action, inspired.

Brandon 21:45

Yes, that's helpful. But there's nothing on the other end, you're just like, Okay. Anyway. Yeah, fine. Whatever. So, yes, so those situations are annoying. And I don't care what my classroom technology looks like. As long as I have a display for notes, and pictures and for children to present things. That's all I care about. I don't care what it looks like. Really. Like the thing I have works fine. Like our technology lady is like, just dead set on making me get rid of it. And like why and fine, it works. Stop it. So crazy, I guess. You can move away from overhead projector. Dang it. I although

Collin 22:41

I'm teaching at Lilian school. I really wish I had an overhead projector because they are using, like repurposed whiteboards, so they don't have the best erasing abilities anymore. Oh, yeah. It's what I would give her an overhead projector.

Brandon 23:01

Oh, traits paid guarantees? Yes, I would. I would. Yes. So that's on my list. Did you have did you have Ms. Latimer in high school? Yeah. freshman biology? Yeah, she, I don't know if she, whenever I was a freshman, she taught her entire class. We took notes from a transparency thing. She would just like projected onto the board. Or if she felt like it, that weird little screen thing. And that's how we took notes all day, in class. Rather than days, we took notes, right? We would take notes, often, she would write random things on there. And we would just do it right there. I mean, I just for me, like, it's great. I love the ability, I need the ability to write, rewrite, erase draw arrows, like, underline circle, that is a must for me. And if I can't visually display a process or draw a sample, nothing, I don't process it at all. Yeah, and I that's what this thing, like this thing that they were talking about. It's like some sort of replacement for our, like, ancient smartboards that don't work anymore, right out or what's called, it's whatever. But like, they were like, the whole presentation was just like, focused on like, this is another another thing that happens with like advertising in general. Because I we were on a conference call with the sales lady. Oh, no. Right. So her job is to give demos and talk about the stuff right. But she was talking about, like, all the end goal things that this thing can do. Right, like the extreme possibility. Yeah. Right. So this is like, not helpful to me. Because that doesn't tell me like any baseline information about the product whatsoever. Yeah, right. Yeah, this is is kind of like that thing where like, like women car companies advertise things, right? They only advertise like the best car they have. Right? Like the, you know, like they're like, oh, yeah, the highest trim level or even like Lexus, right? They all weighed like on all the news and on top gear and wherever they have that like LLF whatever thing. That's the only Lexus car you ever see. Because it's like the best thing that they make. Right? And so like if you think that's cool you just like Google Lexus and you look at the other cars, because you can't afford that one. Right? And so like, that's their marketing is like look at the very best we have. And then you like, sort by price like sort by lowest and then you like, see where you are? Right? I mean, guitar companies do this too. Like Gibson is like the worst ever? Or like fender, they'll be like, Yo, the new, extra American professional version to like, they don't advertise the player series ever. Right? Yeah, they advertise the high end hand built custom shop. By like one dude, California made this whole guitar. So it's like a billion dollars. They don't advertise the like normal guitars. So like, you see the big expensive one. And you dream about it, and you love it. But then you like, look at their whole catalog. And then you just go down the list until you find one that you can actually afford. Right? And that's what this lady was doing with this thing. She was She kept saying there was two models of the thing of the like, presentation board thingy. But she would only talk about like the top AI, right? And she'd be like, oh, yeah, this version can do all this. Code workers, like, we're sitting in this room together. She's like, well, what's the other one? Do that? Like, what, what? What's the other one not able to do? Right? And so she's saying all this stuff. And she's like, showing like, look at this presentation. And I'm like, Okay, that's cool. But I need to know, I already have presentations. Right? You showed me this like big fancy presentation that you made using the program that's on this thing, right? I need to know if my PowerPoint

Collin 27:38

will work on. Yeah. All right. Or in my mind goes. More importantly, here. If I dive all in with your system in five years, when you stopped updating it and moved on to something else, can I export those to a PowerPoint? Can I

Brandon 27:56

am I stuck with it? Yeah. Because you know, what always works. Like no matter why it's Microsoft PowerPoint, right? Or like a Google Slides, right? Can I throw it in Google Slides? And they're all like, yeah, you can upload it to your Google Drive. And then you can do this, all of us, like, my PowerPoints are just downloaded to my computer. Because this is where they're the safest. Right? And then they're backed up on like a thumb drive thing or whatever. That's where they live. I suppose I should put them in like Google Classroom and like, my drive or whatever, but like, that's where they are. Because it's easy to find them. They're safe. They're not going anywhere. Like nobody can get in any mess with them. It boom, it's right there. So like, I need some very simple criteria. Right, which was not addressed. Because they're addressing like, the highest level thing, because like, what I need to do, what I personally need to know is can I present and use this just as a normal presentation device? That's the baseline. Because she was like, standing up at the board, like tapping and doing all this stuff. I was like, I don't stand up there. Right. I'm like, in the round the classroom. I'm like, standing in the back. I'm standing over there and have a clicker thing, right. This way I can, like, wander around, I can make sure we're on task. I can do all this stuff. Right? That's, that's my baseline of what I need. Maybe you don't like that. That's fine. But this lady again, the lady, the sales lady is a former kindergarten teacher. So all these things she's talking about doing. She's not talking to me. The sixth grade teacher her experience, her viewpoint is different than mine. Because the kids that she thinks about and the kids that I think about have very different needs. Right and they're like day The structure and how things work. Right? Not to mention our personalities, our I can guarantee very different, but like, I know, she's like a happy kindergarten teacher and I'm like, no, no happiness. Sorry. I just got a disgruntled employee. Just kidding. No, I just, again, this goes back to what we talked about on the last episode about the parts of your personality that you present forward. Right? I know a lot, we will still that's still we'll we'll we'll talk about this again later on, perhaps at some point listeners, but we're talking about like what parts of your personality you choose to, like present forward in certain situations. In the classroom, I have a certain certain ones come to the fore because, like, happy go lucky, silly me is like, not appropriate for the sixth grade classroom because we'll never get anything done. Right? That's right. We will get nothing accomplished. Absolutely nothing. Nothing, nothing will get done. So like. So the the crux of this episode, listeners that his last two all time is that Brandon, and Mr. Funkhouser, not necessarily the same person. Right. And that's, that's kinda where this is going. So I have these very specific set of criteria that I need. Or I would like in my sixth grade classroom, like my baseline, that anything up from there is like a bonus. And I can do with that I can make, I can gladly add, do things and put in new projects and stuff based on what this presentation board is capable of. But I need a baseline. And the baseline is, like you said, where I already am getting this already do what I'm doing. Without Yeah, I don't know if I can call I can. I don't know if I can plug in my peripheral device and like, click around and present my slideshow from the back of the room. I'm standing next to the kid, and making sure that they're doing the thing they're supposed to be doing and not throwing erasers that the girl sitting next to right, and others understanding there. Yeah, I'm just you know, that may or may not have happened at one point in my life, it's fine. Don't worry about it. Like, stay up, I can stand back there. And like, be approximately close to the situation. It'd be monitoring things in certain parts of the room while still presenting notes that day, to the class like I don't want to stand at the board have to tap it all the time. Yeah, that's annoying. Like, do I want to draw on my board in? Absolutely. Right. That would be so great. Like, I could redraw diagrams, I could draw my own diagrams, we could like, highlight parts of pictures and stuff. But if it doesn't, do the things I already am doing, it's useless to me. Well, yeah, and that, that idea of,

Collin 33:03

I think, in, like, especially in technology, but also car companies like it's this halo effect of, we're going to showcase the best thing. It's gonna have the circle downs and draw people in and showcase them as well, like you said, if you have to is I would look at that and go, Yeah, but how much work? Am I going to have to get to what I'm doing right now? Like, yeah, if I have to adapt everything, if I'm unable, if it's more disruptive, to me, my workflow, and that's always an assessment that we have to have going, okay. Is this actually disruptive? Am I just being cantankerous about this wood putting in this effort actually helped kind of do these assessments along the way? I think they asked majority of time, if we ask them those questions, what we find is that a the investment of time and energy is actually not going to be worth it. In the long run and be it's just totally not worth the change or going down that route. Yeah. And I think I mean, all about setting your priorities because what I what I see a lot of times is an error about a lot of times and obviously in education settings is people get a chunk of money, or they go after a chunk of money, and then they get it and they're like, Well, what's my priority? I have to spend the money. Right. Yeah. It's not always get the best thing or get the most useful thing. It's, I have to spend this because it's here in my pocket right now. Yeah. And

Brandon 34:24

it's usually in the education world. It's only there for like, a certain amount of time. Yeah. And that's why they do that because they for some reason, like their grant or their funding or whatever it like it's only around until X date. If you don't have it allocated and you haven't started spending it on something by x date, it doesn't it goes away. And so that's why they do that and it's super annoying and they change things all the stinking time like, I don't know is like

Collin 34:54

really bothering you make very different decisions, buying purchasing decisions. If you go My primary decision is to spend as much money of this as possible. So of course, you're gonna get these weird, crazy random displays and things and whatever, yeah. Why? Because we had the money and I had to spend it. And that's where, again, getting back to this, like, who's making this decision? Who has the authority to actually make this? And what are their priorities? Because if the decision makers priorities are not in line with the users priorities, you get a huge, you know, mismatch of actual uses and priorities from top to bottom throughout the stack, and you get a bad outcome and nobody's happy.

Brandon 35:38

Yes. And you're just like, why? And then the problem is that cycle repeats itself, because then, you know, more money comes in later. And they're like, oh, but then we'll do this. Now. You're like, huh, but what about, what about this? Like, I? What about this thing we were doing? No, no, we're doing this now. But But wait.

Collin 36:03

Exactly. It's like, why are we changing this? Because again, right, like, but I, you're left with that continual cycle. And it's hard to break, especially in education, Mr. Grantham, the way they're fun.

Brandon 36:16

Yeah. So it's just like, whatever. So I imagine a handful of people will get this thing. The ones that wanted it anyway, like, whatever. I don't care. Just do it. I don't, I don't care. Yeah. And then you'll be the one with the weird, like, it's in the classroom, but it's like taped over or you have you're sitting in front of like, at the end of the day, like, doesn't matter. You know, like, I don't care. Like part of a big part of my cluster was holding rocks. So like, Come on, we did this. What the fuck is it doesn't matter. This is granite will hold this thing. Next, that's my knee. That's where I'm at. Like I like,

Collin 37:09

yeah, exactly how, how? Okay, so it's going, how should this process have actually happened? The the end result here is new classroom or new classroom technology. Right? Immediately, we have to start with the alternate outcome of that is no new classroom technology. Right? That's a decision we always have. But then how do we get from where we are to one of those decisions? Well, we need to pull people together actually ask how are you? What, what analogy are you currently using? What pain points do you have? What would you like to have? And then we need to have people put those together in a big list and hear from three or four or five different companies?

Brandon 37:49

Yeah, I think the problem is, is we had one part, here's how this went out at my school, we had one person who has broken classroom technology. They saw this one thing somewhere or they have a friend that has one another school, they thought it was cool. They told the principal. Yep. The principal went off that. That was the chain of events. It was not, I did get a survey that said, Do you prefer to use your smartboard? Or like the Apple TV thing in your room? And I was like, I have both of those. And so I use both of them. Right? Like, it's the thing that's been afforded to me to use. And so you know, what I do? I use them. Like, both of them. Yeah. Well, I don't have a preference. I, I use both. I told my principal as like I use both of those. Frequently, yeah, like, I don't, I don't have a preference. I don't care. They're in there. So I use it. So if it's in my room, I'm gonna figure out a way to use it. Right? Because otherwise, it's just in the way but like, especially something like that. Right. Like, is there random junk in my cabinet? I don't use Yeah. Right. It's like a bottle of random like, I just like, yeah, so that question was really bizarre. And I just emailed her. I was like, I'm not filling out your survey, because I have both of those. And I use both of them, like all the time. So as invalid question. I cannot and it was like only like, pick one, like a big one. We talked about? Just wow. Yeah. So that's very, very badly thought out. I will welcome Aaron Beck. Hello. Thank you for joining us. I told you about the craziness. Yeah, that yeah, it's it's never good one subroutine call display. There. We were like Yeah. Oh, yeah. We're like, oh, yeah, listeners for reference. It is astronaut o'clock at night currently. So

Aaron 39:51

I find you're just like, hey, what's the game plan? Oh, I thought you had one there. I know you when he said, when he said like smartboard, and things like that I came in Salem conversation. I have an smartboard. Or I have a board that's supposed to be smart. However, it does not work. And the bold itself is like

Brandon 40:18

10 years old. Maybe? Yeah. That was the thing that is really,

Aaron 40:24

really weird. Like when you when you turn on my screen and like, we we turn the lights off like that? I mean, preferably not, because then you can't see the notes. But time after time, turn the lights off. Because it's so terrible.

Brandon 40:42

Yeah, that was the thing that spurred this whole conversation on part of it is that those bulbs that it was projector bulbs that they replace those are this the most expensive thing in the world, apparently. I don't know why a little light bulb is like so incredibly expensive, but they are. And so apparently the solution is like way almost been like $12,000 on a new brand. Presentation device, instead of like $200 on a bulb. Wait a minute, I have one of these things is not compute. But here's the other problem with certain education things, right? Here's, here's another issue that we have with things like that, those projectors, but you have to, like maintain them, you have to like, clean them because there's a fan in there. Right? And so you have to like it's dirty, because it sucks in air to clean and cool the bulb. And so it sucks in dust and there's filters in there and they get dirty. And like nobody maintains that. No, because, like, teachers think that it's not their job to do that. Custodians and maintenance, clearly have no time for such things. Right? No technology, or it people are way too busy. Trying to make the server not melt down at all times. So like, there's these little things like that, that nobody will do. And then your system fails. And then everyone's like, Why did fail? I don't understand like, well, because there's these little miniscule things that have to be done for upkeep and nobody does them. Like, I clean out my own. Like, it'll start being like, oh, it's overheating. So I get up there. And I like, you know, I figure it's not my projector, whatever. I've just started opening things like unscrewed a little panel and ripped out this filter, and then like blew in there and took the filter out and like, smashed it on the desk and like kind of blew through it and swept up my masks and put the filter back in. And blam works beautifully. So like this is another step that like, there's these little things like that that are necessary. And nobody, either a nobody knows about them to begin with. Or be and nobody does it. Because they think it's somebody else's responsibility to do again, and should be weighed highly against all other alternatives of going okay, sure. This thing is nice and fancy. How much does it cost if it breaks? Or? Yeah,

Collin 43:43

what's the you know, what's the maintenance and upkeep on? If nobody's asking that question, it means they don't really care. It's it reminds me of Juanita K Hammann. You know, and all the fountains are built for funding and oh, yeah, he was to build fountains, but never to maintain or replace or fix them. Yeah, clean the fountain. Yeah, just like oh, exactly. Then nobody they just accepted the fountains are like great. Now we have this fountain there was no money on the back end and I was like wow, this is actually a very this is an increased cost to me now because I have a very nice fountain and very nice fountains are costly to keep up turn that you know, like yeah, if you're not thinking about this from beginning to end, in that decision making process those all needs to be valid point somebody sits down and crunches numbers and thinks about it. Or maybe it's just like, okay, maybe the bulbs are super costly, but they take 13 seconds to replace. The other ones are they don't cost as much but they take an hour because I've got to do you know, to tear down the whole thing and rebuild it from the ground up? Yeah, obviously extreme case, but you have to wait. But like,

Brandon 45:01

yeah. Well, and you know, unfortunately, the one of the problems is what looks better on the board report, changed some filters or bought brand new technology with grant money. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The second one. So you know, and it's about communicating expectations, right. Like, did anybody know the filters and stuff needs to be maintained? Did anybody decide who was supposed to do that? You know, I just did it because I was like, annoyed. And like, well, this is kind of it goes back to my gripe with the copy machine. Right. It's the one piece of my technological data. I have no direct control over. Yeah. And it's always the thing that lets me down. Always. Right. This is why I asked for a key to the janitor's closet. Because they restructured our janitors. So there's like nobody there first thing in the morning. Like, yeah, so like, I just asked the maintenance guy, like, Hey, can I have a key to that closet? For science reasons, obviously, because there's a big giant, like, there's a big mop sink in there. And that's very handy. It's very handy for like filling up buckets and stuff like that, that I've had to do a few times. So not only that, but also because like, you know, I'm going to sleep my own floors sometimes. Because, yeah, there's no, the custodial staff is limited right now. And like, for a while, we didn't have one in our building. And like, oh, randomly, other custodians were just coming over and fill again when they could. So like, my trash got emptied. Which is not I'm not like, it's not their fault, because that's they were doing what the best they could, right? It's not, I'm not upset at the staff, it was decision making. Above them. That was the problem. So I was just like, Give me the key. Do it. I don't care. But I need a bigger broom than the hand. Remember. I could like this, please. I need access to that. Give me access to the vacuum cleaner. Again, very helpful for just science reasons in general. Right, because, like, sort of messy sometimes. And we need we need more than a broom. Zoe's. But it's just that like, I was gonna do it myself. Because I could sit around and wait for someone to do it. In which case, it will never be done. Because number one, on privacy, I think that they have to do it's going to be the last thing. Sure. Right. Which is not fair to expect them to do that. Right. If I make a big mess. I feel like I should not sit around and just wait for someone else to clean it up. Oh, that sounds very silly to me. I think our father would just yell at me if I tried that. Like standing like I was gonna do it myself. Right? I don't care leave me alone. Get I guess that's just I don't know. I'm just very selfish. Try to be self sufficient about these things. That way. I don't have to bother people. They don't have to bother me more importantly though, thinking copy machine. Like I think that's another reason that's another downfall for having a new technology my room that like when it breaks and I know nothing about it. Is anybody going to fix it? No. Cool. So I'll be even worse off than I am now. Because like now my smartboard doesn't work I can't ride on anymore. Like it still projects and displays relatively fine. Back into it. So like as of right now. It's fine. Mom care if new thing breaks there's I don't think anything anybody can do about it. Like

Collin 49:06

it's a really good point of going okay, like we have a process for the repairs in the spring is back online. What's the what's the support look like? This new thing, not just getting it in the classroom, but really genuinely.

Brandon 49:19

How do we make and maintain it? Right? That's, that's the point to keep bringing up. We have not just a one and done. Yes, you have to do stuff, right? You don't like buy a buy a kit and like never oil the chain. Right? Like you have to do stuff, right? Buy a car even if it's little things. Yeah. Yeah. I just thought about that because I bought my bike chain the other day. So like it was the first thing that came to my mind, either parts coming in this week to getting over your cog. Yeah. gonna change gear. So that means take the wheel off, get up the chain with, do the thing. Gonna be hard to do mid race. I mean, it's true if I, you know, maybe I'll just do it in the pits before I start going. Are you going to be going up or down? Going up? Going up to 17? Okay. Yeah, we're gonna see. I'm just curious. I really just Rolando, why, yeah. Why, as curious about why, why that change? Well, number one. Slight easier to pedal up hills. Right. I don't know. How, because I have no experience in this matter. I don't know. How big a difference one more tooth, we'll make. Sure. But it will make some difference. So just see how that goes. Also, I think by just moving one, I probably don't need a new chain, because I think there's enough slack in there that having too much bigger, I would need a new chain, I think. Because it would be it needs more area to go around than are in the slots. So the dropouts, I mean, so we're gonna see how that goes. Mostly, I'm just curious. Curiosity, mostly is the reason. Like, I wonder if it doesn't make that much difference or not. So I figured go up. See, makes Alicia petal Epsom hills. Right. This is also partly spurred by that one day where it was like so clearly windy. I was like, Oh my God, but didn't die. Like, it's so hard to pedal that it was like I had one more, one more cog might make a difference. Right? Also, theoretically, would make self braking going down the hill easier. Right? Because it wouldn't be a lot slower. It'd be spinning slightly different, like the the paddles would be spinning different. So backpedaling and slowing yourself down might be not as difficult as on the smaller one. Right, because it's a lot more force on a smaller one that way. Maybe. Question mark? I I mean, I don't know. Maybe it was just is that just talking about the force it takes to reverse? Yeah, yeah. I'm just thinking about how much force for effort backwards on your resisting. Well, I guess and to hold that and to resist the tire from moving. Yeah, I guess you're right. It would make that a little a little bit easier. Again, we'll want to make a difference. Maybe not. Right. I didn't feel like jumping up to like 19 or something like that. Because that definitely required your chain and I don't want to do that right now. Maybe later. So So update incoming. I'm looking deleted help next week. The last week warning from the bike ride on this Yes. Yes. field reporting. field reporting live LogMeIn gentlemen Hey guys, what's up trying to not crash on the back here. Hello So, Colin, what's new with you? That's all I got. We tested today. It was really boring because I've had to stand that stare at children and be like, Yep. Good job. Keep it up. Yeah, have any bike parts coming? Well, my while my last three days have been not the best. True, stressful city for calm.

Collin 54:39

Two months ago, we had an employee LSU had an opportunity to go work in Maine for the summer at a state park gift shop. I was like, that sounds like an amazing thing is like I don't know. I feel bad about it. I was like if I have to fire you, make you take pity. I will just be on this. Go have fun in Maine. And so she's doing that and so we two months ago start it

Brandon 55:00

in earnest. I'm trying to hire somebody. Well, then

Collin 55:07

Wednesday of last week, Thursday of last week, that's their staff member in Springfield, Wednesday, a Thursday of last week. another staff member, the other staff members, we only have two called us. And she's going through rough times in her life. I was like, I really need a break. And I am just gonna, this is my two weeks notice. And I really appreciate everything you guys done. It's just I've got to work on myself. I was like, great. In two weeks. I have nobody in Springfield. That's not like, that's fine. That is that is problem is problematic, because we have spent the last week since October. So we spent the last five months, basically at the top of the hill, trying to pry loose a large bowl. That's what we've been trying to do. We've been trying to pry loose this large boulder on top of a hill. And we're just starting to get that done. Just some percentage wise last month, Springfield, native 0% of our company,

Brandon 56:04

I like this, this month that made up 10. Next month, it's

Collin 56:08

going to double or do more than that. So and that should tell you an end Sedalia it has not slowed down. That's how busy Springfield hoe, right? Because the buyer is not going like the is not going down. It hasn't changed at all. We haven't shifted any focus or take any less bookings. And so for it to have risen from zero to 10% in a month. It's done a lot. And it's going to do more next month. And so I have this boulder that is it's past the point, it's basically out of my control. Now I can't reel it back in. And yet, I now have no buddy into. And so with that Megan and I were scrambling to try and figure out what to do. Basically, I'm gonna have to live it as for at least a month doing all the visits doing, you know, seven days, we have things seven days a week. And yeah, just covering everything. Well, then, one of our staff members, our staff member here locally,

Brandon 57:06

their mom called us and in tears, like ugly cry telling us that is their depression was back. And it was really bad. And they weren't going to be able to get anywhere. And so

Collin 57:30

big problem, big, big, ugly, ugly problem, because we also have dailies here, lb and Megan can only do so much. And she has kids. Yeah, to get tickets to the visit an hour this conundrum of where do we apply the brake? Right, this is and this is where a lot of this decision making going which one's most important to the survival of the company and income and all that good stuff? And and how do we approach that and and what's gonna be a good metric for us.

Brandon 58:00

So we have really pressed the gas pedal hard on the hiring and moving people very quickly through that process. Not

Collin 58:09

sacrificing quality of candidates or anything like that. But really, other than just the pace of it. Yeah. So like, I'm like, yesterday, I did an in person interview for here at Medallia today. We did eight phone interviews. And then tomorrow I have more phone interviews I'm doing in person interviews, are these those people from those selections

Brandon 58:30

on Thursday? That's how fast we're moving on this. Yeah, just to every expedite the process, right. To say, Yeah, I'm planning on fully bringing on or Springfield at three people just pull it up that I need to rewrite? Yeah, I can't I can't miss her No, right. Yeah, and

Collin 58:51

I've got it this that number of people, I've got to replace the two, right that I had that I lost. And I need another person in there to make it even easier, because we're gonna grow even more. And so while I've got these people on the hook, are interested, I might as well offer them and then have them all three working through my training and onboarding process for them. And one of the things that we did was we reached out to the last several hires that we did, we reached out to the number two and number three person and said, Hey, we have new positions. Are you still interested? And so that helped us bring back on people that we since you had a starting point already had a starting point or at least have that conversation. So unfortunately, just the way things are timed, there's no way I can't can't can't not be down in Springfield for at least two weeks to get everything running. So it'll be a little stressful on on Megan running everything and I won't be able to finish the year out teaching either. I've had to notify them of like, hey, oh yeah, next week. Like I'm out like I can't I can't do this because I'm now covering our daily visits that we have here, in in town here locally, because we have several dailies of having five or six visits every single day. Yeah, we do. And that's and then that goes up with the travel and everything like that. So I've got to cover that. And then I'll be in Springfield, while Megan covers here until we can get these people on. So that has been a big, like, Oh, crap moment for us of looking at this going.

Brandon 1:00:28

Everything's moving, right, like, we I get,

Collin 1:00:31

I get four phone calls a day, from people in Springfield. And not, not everyone is a good bit. And I say no to some more after that. Some Yeah, but still, like that, like, huge number of people who are flowing into our funnel now. And yeah, I can't tell them. No, I can't say wait, I Oh, I need you to put you on a waitlist. I need to be saying yes to them. But I can't. Because yeah,

Brandon 1:00:59

I have. Yeah, cuz you know, people's because people right. So that's a major thing. And I will say that it was very hard for me to not freak out about this over the weekend, because I got that phone call on Friday or Saturday or whatever I texted. And Friday, right,

Collin 1:01:26

I think yeah, it was very hard, because we were trying to line up some interviews for this week. Anyway. So I knew we had something it was just very hard for me to wait for that moment of okay, it's Nothing's gonna get solved. I know. Nothing will solve in at least two.

Brandon 1:01:45

But that doesn't help me not stress out about it. Right. Like I can. Yeah, totally. Right. Like, I know, there's a solution. It's just two weeks away. And it's so not satisfying to say this will be 100% solved in two weeks. Nobody. Nobody wants. Yeah, that's not helpful.

Collin 1:02:06

So I'm, we're thinking about we, there are policies in place that are meant to protect employers of like, if you've ever gotten a job offer and usually standard to make it two weeks out. And that's really important, because that gives you time to get the background check in. And here's the really important part, then, if the background check comes in and says that this person's not actually, they don't have a good background, and they're actually not a good fit for your company anymore. Maybe they have an undisclosed felony, that would really impact their ability to load in somebody's home.

Brandon 1:02:42

Yeah, that would be very good. I think, legally, legally, you have to give them at least at least nine days, I think, to respond to that. While you're supposed to be onboarding them, and paying them and having them go through your system, yeah. And so it's, I see the problem.

Collin 1:03:08

Legal timeframes, at least in Missouri of like, I am legally required to give you X number of days to respond. Now, usually, once you send a letter, if they Hey, we noticed this, you can respond to it, they never think goes through and they disappear. Every HR person.

Brandon 1:03:22

But it's the case. Well, yeah, but you still have to, like legally say that, right? Like I did this thing I reached out, I followed the

Collin 1:03:31

end, you can't say, you know, here's this, we found this, and you can't start dismissing them, you have to wait those full time period before you can do anything with that applicant once they reach that point. So to give them time to like rebut or whatever,

Brandon 1:03:47

because, you know, we

Collin 1:03:48

reporting agencies get things wrong all the time. And yeah, so that and that's what it's for. It's not for them to try and defend or come back and say, Oh, let me explain the class whatever felony, it's for them to actually dispute with the with the reporting agency, is their their legal their federal laws around how they have to dispute that and that has timelines and timeframes and everything. Yeah, what I really want to do is I really want to tell the person who I interviewed yesterday. Can you start on Friday?

Brandon 1:04:20

I can't. I have to say can you start two weeks? Meanwhile, I can't do anything. I can't train them. I can't have them shadow me on the job. I can't Oh, really? Anything? They're not how old is this lie wonder if because your listeners are brand new. You may be listening to this going like oh yeah, but people do that all the time. Yes, I know. People do it all the time. And 99.99999% the time there's no problem and there's no issue. But that point oh one person at a time can bankrupt your company and It'll make your big headache if you don't follow that. So okay, fair? Yeah.

Collin 1:05:10

Right like, and usually it's not a problem, or, you know, a lot of lot of people who are, you know, so we are trying to do this, like, really Hurry up, but then we also have to really wait. And that's no fun, and I don't like it. And I'm not a fan, this is

Brandon 1:05:28

not hurry up and then hurry you waiting. Not a good place to be.

Collin 1:05:37

But it's we've got some really strong candidates, and I'm really happy about it, and did some interviews today. And it's very interesting how each time we've put out the hiring ad, we've gotten a complete different cohort of people. So this time around, we've got the I'm a super passionate pet parent with a lot of time. It's a very different cohort than the last time who was I'm a former pet professional looking to get back in the game. Yeah. So trying to sit there and go, Okay, how do I, again, make an assessment of people who are who I have in front of me, who can meet the needs of what I company right now, and make sure that they're, they're going to be a good fit, and very important to hear that they're going to be happy. And obviously, I can't determine and say whether somebody's going to be happy or not, but I can make sure they fully understand everything that entails. And we beat that over the head. Every time we talk to people every single time and it ends up. You know, I'm sure it gets a little bit redundant.

Brandon 1:06:45

But it's, it's part of the process. Yeah, that's crazy. For the reason listeners, I am so perplexed by this is literally the first job I ever had. I walked in to a place. And I said, Hey, I was wondering if you guys are hiring. And the girl goes, Alright, I'm gonna get the manager. I'll be back. Manager comes out. We talked for a minute. Because Can you come back at five o'clock tonight? Yep. That's all I was like, Whoa, that's weird. That's my experience ever like?

Collin 1:07:37

Yeah, and again, most people don't. But this is over the last several years, they've changed into a lot more of what they call contingent offer letters. That's what we offer of you will be hired contingent, passing a background check. And it provides the employer a lot more protection for them. So they know who they're hiring. And it's not done for every every job. And there are some people who choose not to do content and offer letters. Yeah. And and that's totally fine. It's just

Brandon 1:08:08

in certain situations. And it's just what liability you willing to take on or not as, as the hiring as the person hiring. Yeah, oh, that makes sense. There's just never been, but I'm not I'm trying to remember. Like, I don't want to work to my factory job. I guess it was probably like back because they were like, Okay, here's your thing. And then come back, and we'll do the like, tour, and then come back and we'll do the paperwork and with rights. If it was one of those deals. It was a lot more like blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, like, step by step by step by step thingy. And, of course, when you're as a teacher, it doesn't really matter, because they're like, Okay, you we will hire you for the next school year. Okay. So you have like, months before? That's different, right?

Collin 1:09:00

Yeah, exactly. But but all those all those timelines and timeframes and multiple loops and steps. There can be some legal reasons for that. There can be some federal reasons for that, especially in places that have like a right to work. And that's what like Missouri, I think, right? Work state have. They have, you have to tell them, the person who you're hiring, what you find, and how it impacts your decision and all this stuff. You have to tell them that they have to be notified of that.

Brandon 1:09:31

Which, which is important in some, you know, obviously working in a school. Yeah, I look for things. And, but some jobs like I said, it's not it's not required, or not done, have always done so it's just, it's different. And

Collin 1:09:50

we chose it because we need that peace of mind to be able to tell our clients and all that stuff. I mean, yes, true. It does put us in a much more profound acted a hiring timeline timeframe. And we would like to,

Brandon 1:10:05

especially this time, this time, so but we got to go to Yeah, in the midst of all that we took time out what to a daddy daughter dance, which was amazing, a lot of fun. And Lillian got to

Collin 1:10:23

where she wanted to wear the same dress she wore to our first studied RDS find her. But after we talked about how, because it was is I 66767. Which, a year and a half ago, two years ago, it was like way too big for her, but she still loved it so much. We're like, Okay, fine. Now it fit perfectly. Now that's

Brandon 1:10:45

gonna be like, yes, the next time it's gonna be nope, but I told her,

Collin 1:10:49

and she informed me that that meant that I would have to get a different shirt color. Because her dress color just so happened to match her dress color with a pale yellow just so happened to match a pale yellow shirt that I already own. I mean, I would have to get a different shirt. And I was like, Good point.

Brandon 1:11:07

Good point, or hear me out. You can just buy a dress that matches your shirt. I have another shirt on. I know. And since I'm the one buying a dress that's the way it's gonna be as so look at your shirts. See which one you have the most color of guessing blue. Smells like a blue dress for Lily spoilers, Lily. It's gonna be it's gonna be blue Yeah. No problem is she's going to listen to this and find out the plan. So anything that's out at that point? Okay. Yeah, no, that's fine. But don't know I helped me. He went with me to get the boot near floral shop. And he got she literally got to wear against perfume. Which is actually I think, Megan grandma's perfume. Oh my. Yeah, that was kind of cool. She had she actually it's the same perfume Megan wore on our wedding day. And just has a bottle there reminds of her grandma is pretty cool. Nice. Lily got to wear that. And when she got all dressed up, she came in dela put his hands on his face and went oh there you go. But there you go. Don't get beat up later. You know? Yeah, it was it was genuine. unprompted by me. So there you go. Okay. All right. So there you go. I wasn't like a juggler. But, no, it's all all good for that. So we'll serve five. Oh, all right. Hopefully. That's what we needed. Need. Yes, surviving. It's important to fast track to HR and hiring and firing policies of Zuri. Ah. Oh, hooray. I always wanted. I know, I've you know, that. I will. That's, that's all I have. I think we'll wrap it up there. And unless there's any more late breaking news that we need to report on, Dan thinks that next week there will be Coffee Corner update. This and yeah. So Coffee Corner update. i Okay, this is good. Oh, yes, a little while, after I know my notes about what we've been many times I can't even open this Google Doc anymore on my phone because it's too big. It keeps keeps crashing. So we might have like split this up into like multiple only 70 pages. Yeah, if it breaks my phone, my phone can't open it any time to look at it. 7000 links and yeah, I can make it I had to do that for the Pitzer podcast, we had to pass her professional podcast because yeah, it was very quickly we had to bifurcate like okay, here's the Yeah, and we're just going to start fresh and kind of copy with Yes, I think yeah, copy will leave the top of the list the evergrowing topic list that we keep forgetting to actually look on and then just archive archive the bottom one, the bit of other episodes because I can't think where but yes, Coffee Corner Okay, coming soon and the long and short short preview ladies and gentlemen Susan I was talking about and we're like our problem. Again, I'll go more detail next week, but we decided that we were going to buy bags of like random coffee. Oh, from like different roasters or different like whatever, to try out for the weekend purposes only right because it was determined that it is financially not possible to procure and consume said specialty coffees on a regular basis, because the consumption level during the week for both of us is quite high. And so Folgers during the week, but new and interesting weekend brew coffees to come just for we were talking about it and we're like, hey, that'd be kind of funny to do that or kind of enjoyable. Let's try that. So that's the plan. We came up with two updates on all that. Next week. See how it goes new coffees, for us? Perhaps maybe there'll be good. Maybe we'll be terrible. Who knows? Yeah, it's a surprise. I don't want to say too much more because I didn't tell her which one we each ordered one from different places. And I didn't tell her what I bought. So it's literally surprise. I'm looking okay. This is this is evil. Evil evil await the coffee update. Yeah. And do you where you are in relation to other things? Yes. We'll have by corner we'll have coffee of date. We'll have hiring update will have your base will have I've been drafted to go to trivia night on Friday. So I have to be there. I guess but I don't like to go places and fair enough. Do trivia contests with people. That's not a thing I like to do. I've done one one time. I was like this is not fun. Even though I won I was still like this is not cool. I don't want my team won. I should say my team. Why not me and have to go to another one. Well, we will. We'll hear where we all are at a time. Left guys