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Spend listening. Just been listening in. Yeah, being a creeper. Well, I mean, like, trying to tell him things so I didn't want to be like her What up my. You're trying to walk them through how things work. It's kind of disruptive.

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I want to be a jerk yet we just started on a nice fine

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you know, Peter and I was playing with earlier. Yeah, it sounded really quiet, but

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also very weird setup. I don't know if that's better sounding better sounding good. I think you sound fine. I don't know. How does he hear? How does he sound on your end, Brandon? It's hard to tell because your microphone is so loud that like I can't.

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Mine is. Yeah. Oh, no, I don't know if that's just because he's quiet. But like, okay, the disparity in voices is immense.

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RY I didn't know this How was how was this? It's a little better. Okay, I turned it down about half the output volume now.

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Huh?

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So there's there's

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quite a

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whole set of aim with and it has by

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four straight into

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Yeah. And the connector has

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has the mic

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Okay, so that's acting is your your interface

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yeah probably

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hello

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hello

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Yeah

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Thank you. Okay. Same

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Oh,

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yeah now

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panel

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right.

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Oh, yeah. Yeah. And I

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mean, yeah, I mean a foot is not the Lord. Yeah. It's like a like a floor tile. Right. Yeah. But kind of space them out on my wall where they're kind of close the print out a little bit. Well, yeah, they look so

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minuscule you have the vastness of the ball.

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See that's because you don't have a pirate flag and the Canadian flag also on your wall. So

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You're missing out, right? You have to have you have to have really weird things on your wall to go with.

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It turns out random TV in front of me that I have like a map diagram. That's important.

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Real? Oh, yes. I mean, well, but those are paper thin. I don't know. It's better than nothing.

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You gotta remember how to get rich in it is important. So do I also have the Witcher three map? Oh, yeah. forgot that is like getting

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it right. I

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can be like, Where

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am I? Nice just wander around. Killed Griffin's fine.

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Yeah, it is. It's okay.

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And then you accidentally wander into to high level area and get killed by somebody.

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Weird water demon thing and like what I think

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you got like five feet and it's like oh that's a level 37 water hag YY

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yeah

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I have

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many run it like the Red Dead but like oh I handled this all I know you can't mountain lions are the most powerful creature known to mankind

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I did actually get the Pyro

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really remastered nice or ps4 I have not uploaded because they were kind of put it in downloading all the stuff just like a horrible flashback

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like wait I was really bad at

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nice

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we'll see how this

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dude it on there you go.

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What exactly were you doing? And where are you? That's a great question.

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So I will start with the second Lee. I am in Van Buren, Missouri

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at the landing, and it's right off the current river and wonderfully vague name. I know. It's all landing the land like like the caregiver has just one. It does.

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Turns out, it turns out turns out and brings out this this was originally scheduled for in the spring, late, late spring, early summer, but the

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current River at that time

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was like, at night it was at like six or seven feet

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and they feed they close the river at 5am

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So they rescheduled it for this weekend. And yesterday

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we were rained out right at the very end. I sent you guys those pictures. Oh, yeah. And

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we woke up this morning. And we were like, well, the river that four feet and it looks like it's plateauing so we should be fine.

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Cut to 530 where I get a notification from the USGS stream gage here in Van Buren river is that now at 4.93 that's fine. Five you to rise and they're expecting more storms just north of us tonight. So we are canceling tomorrow.

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And what's crazy is

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right now I'm looking out my

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my window at the current River. And then if I look a little closer to my balcony, there's a second river that

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Running through the giant gravel bar that used to extend 100 yards or so to the riverbank. And now there's a second channel that's opened up and running their

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Aereo Yeah, so there are two cars and they have more river to look at. That's better. Yeah, I know. I don't know more about that. But I am down here because I

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signed up for this training class. And what it is, is the department is trying to as a whole, educate its outdoor specialists to be better at teaching.

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canoeing and kayaking. And so I'm kind of one of the first Guinea I'm the first guinea pig class to go through part of that class, learning the material to make us better teachers at teaching this stuff.

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I don't teach this stuff but my

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That is a watershed biologist is that? He's like, yes, I'm going to teach you to be in boat, right like what?

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the only thing is is that my boss is party is the my supervisor is helping develop the curriculum. haha so so I kind of got tasked with doing that to be guinea pig. Yes. And then when we hold we hold a watersheds, streams one on one class and as part of that we do take people out in kayaks and canoes for a very, very short canoe trip down the river. So she wants to incorporate a lot of this stuff into prepping those people better because you'd be surprised the number of USGS Fish and Wildlife Service soil water conservation biologists and you know everybody between who have never been in the canoe never floated before and the

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number of times, we they they dump in this in this and we're on the river for like literally an hour and a half and sometimes there can be four to five people dumping, you know, dash.

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Oh my goodness. So So as part of this now as an as an expert, former expert canoeist I find this offensive.

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I know and and yeah, so it's just experience and we're trying to come up with ways to allow

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you know, a quick orientation before we jump on the river because right now we don't do anything. We're just like, hey, if you can't canoe stick close to me. Okay, guys, here we go.

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There. Yeah. So that's what I'm doing here.

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How many statues of Martin Van Buren Have you seen?

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None.

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I know this is a shame. I know.

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Terrible. I know and I even went actually nothing to do with misery but you have a town named Ben beer and I would assume that you would have some Martin Van Buren enthusiast somewhere. I think it is actually named after him or in some something I mean, that makes sense that lots of towns in Missouri just like arbitrary or not just Missouri, but in in the US just sort of

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arbitrarily named themselves after presidents, right, like I'm going to meet I mean, I don't know

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how many, most of them are not like, really random ones from the 1800s. But

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lots of Lincoln's and Jefferson's not a lot of them here in right. Taft's hanging out, but still,

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you know, the annexation of Texas was a big thing. And so I know it's important. I

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Went, went downtown this morning to a little cafe breakfast place. They've got down there and I saw no, no statues.

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thing. Shame indeed.

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in deed,

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Yeah, we did. It's crazy. You know, they, they set this up and at first they were like, you know, this is really important and it's, you know, rivers can be really dangerous and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I was like, oh, man, this may be way out of my league. You know, I, I haven't done a lot of canoeing or kayaking for a long time. And, you know, everyone else was really nervous stuff. And then they started going through this. And

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I mean, you guys know,

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being yelled at by dad to get your Jay stroke just right. Yeah, it's important that Jay stroke is bad. You don't want to waste time paddling on the other side of the boat. No, I got time for that. No. And that's the thing you know, learning no paddling only on one side of the boat. And, you know, we worked on how to you know things like how to self rescue and get back in a kayak or get back into a country.

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New York. You guys remember that cool maneuver where you flip? Where, if you're two canoes, you can in one's cap size. You can haul the cap size one on top of your canoe and get it flipped over. Oh, yeah, right. Yeah, like vaguely recall that all that stuff is basically the canoeing merit badges what I am doing currently, oh, there we go. Sweetie, I've done this. I have this. I have this merit badge. You had it? Right check. I felt the same way. Last year, we were talking about

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like school preparedness, right for like emergency situations. Right. And I was sitting in this current in the like, commentary thing, right, listening to the presenter. And he was talking about all the stuff that you got to be make sure you do, and, and all this things to be aware of and basic things and I just sat there thinking I was like, wait,

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I have this main event. I remember. I have I have the emergency preparedness.

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FI When can I go home now?

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Because he was talking about like very rudimentary stuff. He's supposed to be like a school shooting expert guy, right? The thing about all this stuff, but the things he was talking about were just like very generic

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safety things. And I was like, hey, yeah, I got this no problem.

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Like last year, whenever we had that, we're in the basement of our two hours. It was

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a tornado in Oklahoma, right? Yeah, I

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was. I was like, Well, you know, you could take your jacket, and like, make it air pocket out of it. And then like,

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and then like, use that as a personal flotation device. No, that's, that's that's awful. That's not I remember that. I was terrible. I went so here's my story about something that bad. I went to. That was the first summer camp where everyone to camper in London martialed or whatever, and

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I signed up for somebody's merit badge because

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Was there so well organized there? They didn't really bother telling me what sort of things to bring. What when to participate in swimming merit badge? Oh no, I thought, haha. swimming trunks. Excellent. Wrong. That is 100% wrong. In order to participate in the swimming airbags you do, in fact need a long sleeve shirt and jeans, which I did not think to bring to summer camp in Missouri, in July, July.

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I didn't have that, because it was 1000 degrees outside. And we got to that that part where we're doing this self rescue thing. And they're like, yeah, you gotta bring your jeans and I was like my What?

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I don't have that.

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So they found us. I don't know where they came from. And we probably don't random clothing items can jump in the pool with right. So I had some random person's jeans on but didn't really fit. They're too big for me, which made the taking them off and tying them up.

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have been much easier.

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However,

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the only long sleeve shirt to be found was a friggin sweater. Oh no, I like, like a jersey. Like so much your sweater thing. You gotta jump in the pool and then self rescue with that. Alright, cool. I jumped on the

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bottom. Like there was the bottom.

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Permission my life at the bottom of the Yeah, yeah.

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Yeah. Yeah, I mean it's that stuff where that phrase self rescue like that that means something very different to people who have gone through that to the extent of like when you jump into swift moving water in a sweater, it's like, yes, it's like what do you do? It's like okay, point your toes downstream and use you know scuttle with your hands to maneuver. Unless it's really bad and then just hang on.

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Your life jacket for dear life and you know notes down drill. And you know we they were teaching your butt up so you don't smack a rock real right and having to teach people that today so

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you know

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one of my friends is a fire

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fire

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part of

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the

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extreme weather as well. Yeah they just did that training and I saw that on the news or whatever there's a there's a hurricane flooding and let's say eight

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it is

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I get

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videos all the time there's a man made river down

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and it's like, it's like all these

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can increase water flow

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most Street

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and

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He sent me one like what do you do in this situation?

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I never practiced with stuff like that I was on the river or

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whatever one in Arkansas whiteboard

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or like a wind Gable like I never really

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good actor like I never had I never knew I was

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new I mean you could have just ended that's that phrase it you had to canoe with Alex bench and we would have understood

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yeah i get i get videos all the time

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how they sometimes jump in like in their firefighter year oh oh no I I dove in wearing these but I'm sure to downtown YMCA like they jumped in in their firefighter gear I once wore a firefighter gear that junk is like a million pounds.

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That seems like a terrible idea the job water and that they had to wear the

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they didn't have to wear the air like Well yeah, but just like the jacket in the pants are gonna jump in there and they're like, all right. Don't around.

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Good advice. Yes.

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Yeah.

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Some of that stuff brought back.

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But I think like when I had to say, like America, but

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like way younger than everybody like I say did you go there?

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I went one

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and they're like, hey you need me like Oh, you don't understand I am small in people. Older good

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water 30 minutes I'm like I'm dying was not 30 minutes. Yeah

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I mean it does feel like an hour but it's

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Definitely not. So I that was my path. But then they're like, Oh wait, you're not a

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you're not like No, I'm just a mom.

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Family.

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Idiot brother decided to hike the Appalachian Trail so I just came to

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II. That was a trip. His dad was like a failing, they're bad. And I hung out with Doug.

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The lawyer guy was Yeah, but is that was that in Tennessee? Or was that Texas? I went, Oh, okay, but did dad teach sailing in Tennessee or Texas? I didn't think it was either one of those. I thought it was at West no avail. I don't know.

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Cuz I never went to the Texas one. But that's why I thought it was that one. No, I thought the Texas one was just the

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was just hiking. I don't know I didn't go to Texas. I didn't I didn't go either. was a that was the last one I went on. It was a giant lake. And they gave you a pontoon boat.

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And they said, Okay, you go to this station on this day out there, do this and then fail or the boat like like those This is massive, privately owned

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owned by this oil guy. I

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mean that does sound like a place where one would teach sailing rag main so I

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yeah, I mean I could have sworn he was teaching ceiling at the one I went to.

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I didn't think that was out in Tennessee. I'm when I was in Tennessee. I was hiking in the middle of the woods for a week so I don't know. I still think I think your world

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also blacksmith

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Tennessee I forget. Yeah, it's got about that. I blacksmith in a hut. It was like a, a sort of pioneer. Kevin. I do believe I do remember blacksmith thing. But mostly I just remember hiking forever. And then whitewater rafting in a river

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didn't have any water in it because it was 100% full of rocks. And that was great.

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That was great. Because we just, you know, our river guides like to lie to you. Right? They always joke like, Oh, yeah, it's my first week cuz they're, you know, they're bored. Yeah. And they just joke all the time, but they need to do.

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So, we we had this river. I don't know where the name was, but this lady and she was like, yeah, you know, it's just my second week going. And we're like, Yeah, whatever. And her brother was also there. And some other people they're like, No, for real.

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Oh, no, no.

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No. So we found all of the rocks in the north Jackie river, all of them. Amazing, every single one. And it

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was so slow. We're just like bouncing off things. That's amazing. And

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I mean, there was still enough water to have some pretty gnarly rapids there because the vertical drops were not small. But like

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in them there was a big stretches in the middle where you're like, oh,

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boulders.

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Okay.

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slow moving river, and boulders in our raft. Yay. Most Excellent, most excellent.

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What was the river up in Colorado? We went on, like all the time.

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Like the Buddha. Yes, that is correct. hooter river

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I remember that was it was very cold.

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That's one thing I remember. was like, yeah, cooter, it's it's French for powder. And like, really? We're like 14 we understand that. Well, I can hear here. Sorry.

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Yeah, Aaron, you got a lot louder. Oh, I didn't touch anything.

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yourself louder. You get closer. Did you lean closer to the microphone? No. Now I'm late now. I'm like touching the mic. Hello. That sounds amazing. I can hear you. Yes. So this will be the NPR of you so much for joining me. Yeah. Yeah, the the Texas trip was interesting because each station was like, there was like the Cherokee camp. There was the Texas Ranger camp. And then the one that we did not participate because it was 1000 degrees in summer in Texas, was like the Civil War for were they

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Gave you like a union uniform that wasn't close. Yeah, the cotton uniform and there I care where this is. The shirts were linen. It's very, and

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it was like dad and they're like, yeah, we're not doing that. And so we turned our boat in and we left. But yeah, we get we get to cook

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traditional Cherokee food we there's like a water based one. And then there was the Texas Ranger camp which that was pretty cool. But as you did you kick back guys in the face like Walker Texas Ranger. Um we did have a shootout with some of the

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parents, but

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it's the most Texas thing that could possibly happen

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with the parents period or era of firearms. Black Powder production cap no actual like, yeah, yeah

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like that So, but we had a quote the, the parents that was it

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rob the stage coach, they they were there was a robbery of some sort. And we add to our horses, which they had horses we had to ride the trail until we found them and then we had a shootout quote unquote, with the parents what?

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Geez It was like

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shooting it was like we had to point up into the air though like we couldn't

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because I remember Matt was

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very large individual is like the sweetest man in the world. But like I remember like him having like the bag of gold. I came

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running and him having to fall down because he got shot. And then the ladies like yeah, we we

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The Texas Rangers we won and we're like, we just shoot our parents like what what just happened? watching us? We went to some very different scout camps I yeah, no totally like holy cow though. I don't know how they found it. But I remember going to Packard Packard high venture base and Colorado.

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That was been dilatory Scout Ranch. Now we went to both because I actually have my package package nine in Colorado.

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High adventure base. No, that's not in Colorado. No, Colorado has been Delatour.

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There's two of them.

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I went to one is I because I am holding my Nalgene bottle that says OB Council scout camps. And there's been Delatour

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there's some high adventure base where they took us on top of a mountain and we mountain bike down.

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Chris Carpenter almost died. That's how

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What's better than shooting people? Yeah, like I liked those ones. Those ones are pretty cool. And then dad's like, Hey, we're going to Texas. You kind of mix it up. Right? We went to the summer. The Black Hills. Random. Yeah, the random South Dakota when we went to was awesome. Like it was cool. It was so bad getting there because the longest drive ever is trying to go to the Black Hills of South Dakota.

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But like, that was fun.

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Is that the one where we stayed in the church in Kansas? We did that a lot. Yeah, so anytime we happen to be going through Kansas in same church in in Oh, man, I suddenly have blanked on the name of that town. Yeah, we stayed in that big Methodist Church thing. Yeah, I do not have no idea what name of that town would be. Oh my gosh, Google help. talk amongst yourselves real fast. Anyway, but yeah, we anytime we're going that way. We stay

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there. Yeah. And

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so I don't know if we did it that time or not. I know when we went to Colorado to the military we did.

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But I'm not sure about the South Dakota one. But it sounds good. It was fun. We did lots of different stuff there. Because that's when we did the I did the caving and all that stuff. That was cool.

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Yeah, I don't remember the drive detect this. I don't know. Do I remember the drive to South Dakota? And I don't even remember the like, the town or the lake that we stayed at? I just remember. Like we showed up at a lake guy. There's a pontoon

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there. Okay. Pause. Hays Kansas. Hey, yeah, there it is. And so

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yes, we end this we always went to

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either going or coming back. We always stopped that much in Kansas. And we went to the cosmos fear

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I don't have always I went to that one time but yes I do remember that we did they go there and once at least I went there once but we it was Hayes is where we stop and say the night that church because usually on the way back there was just like no we're going home

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too bad so because of that we want to get home now

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terribly stinky children in the car we got to get out of here but

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yeah

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yeah I can't haze and we always ate at sort of Oh, it was I believe St. Augustine was pizza company. Hey, okay. Oh hey, I was gonna say it was like pizza hut or something like that. There was it was like a I don't know I don't know how local that is. But it was like

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place there that's what I remember. I remember Hays Kansas, there was a pool there. We went to the pool some.

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There's like a city pool that we went to couple times and then definitely pizza.

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a buffet. Yeah, that's where you take 14 children.

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What else did we do out there? Great, I don't know, in Kansas or at the camp just in general. Because when we I don't think anybody you I went to a one in Wyoming, too. I didn't I did not go to any of the ones up north. The first one. The first one I went to was David Crockett where I did the stupid polar bear swim.

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Again at a pullover swim in South Dakota.

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We're not we're not we You did? Yes, I did not. Yeah.

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Yeah, that was was that that? Was that the polar bear swim, or was that the swim test where they were like, okay, in order to take this class, you have to do this swim test. And I said, Okay, and so I jumped in and immediately jumped right back out. I don't know. I thought it was a polarized time as part of the thing is you jumped in a lake, didn't you? Yeah, that was the lake

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Yeah, my older son was just like,

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no. Yeah, it was a lake I remember because Yeah, because they were like go. It's like Yeah, sure. Yeah, that's that's the one where they there's stupid counselors are like, no, there's a bear for real. Yeah, that one and then

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we have to be really annoyed and for an hour why they like it one o'clock in the morning where they're like, no, it's better and it was some idiot run around with a bucket like making bear noises. Blue Blue Bell bunny bucket and a wet string and a sponge. It was terrible.

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I was like, it's gonna eat you. I don't care. I'm tired.

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alone. Like I can still vividly see

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can camp lay out at the no tour. Because I also remember playing magic with you, Brandon. And like someone else outside of the trading post.

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We have like magic cards for some reason.

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Are you sure that was me? Because I don't feel like we ever went to summer camp together. I don't Yeah, because if your first one was camp Davy Crockett in Tennessee that was like my last one. But again, yeah, cuz I wasn't like a scout scout. And I yeah, but I don't

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know. I only went to summer camp with Collin like twice. Yep. And it was South Dakota

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and Tennessee.

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All the other ones. I didn't go because I went to Arrowhead one time I went to Linda tour the second time. Then we went to Wyoming and then we went back to ben de tour and then we went to South Dakota and then we went to Tennessee and that was my last one. Okay, because I was I was already Eagle Scout by then so I was like well

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but I would like to because we fun but and I just remembered the layout of the campus.

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I played magic bars with somebody not named me, Matt Brandon. Not me. But I do remember the training posts there but I did not like I can I can remember how the mess hall look

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I can remember the walk to the gun range. I can remember the walked in the camp by the only merit badge I remember taking is like

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radio frequency frequency that that exists. I know that exists. Yeah. Because we have like the chart the the frequency graph.

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And then I took the weather merit badge. Oh, yeah, the forecast merit members, whatever. But that's like the only ones I remember taking. Yeah, I remember I took a bunch there but I don't remember. And I remember there's two different campsites the first year I went, we park we not Park came to the one that was like, there. Yeah, like past the mess hall. And then the other time I went, we were

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Very far away in like another place I think. Maybe not. Maybe I just had to go over there for a merit badge. That sounds more right.

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It was my mare about location was super far away. That's what it was. Yeah, it came back over there too because we didn't we stayed in the army to install all the time. Yeah, but my marriage location was extraordinarily far away because I remember the gun range and I did the ropes course. Second time the second year I went I did the ropes course because I was I wasn't old enough I don't think the first time

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because they had their two different levels is if you're if you're young, you do like the

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Yeah, I didn't do the intro and I did the big the big loss. Yeah, I only did the intro. Yeah.

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Because I don't remember doing the second one. But that may be but but I remember doing like the rope thing. I remember the mine force they had us do like they had like the big grid and there was like a dude holding a piece of paper. Yeah, yeah.

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Well at least Oh, so that's all you did was because when I did it that was like the first day or two was like the ground based stuff like the and then it like built up to like the big tall

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stuff.

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So there was like a it was all week thing like for a couple hours a day you can go over there and do that. I think I have like a merit badge during the same time because there's something there's one that I really wanted to do. But I just

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But yeah, I don't I don't know. I do that's why it's like emergency preparedness because we did our like test was like a rescue. Oh, that's Rocky Mountain Rescue like we kind of thing Yeah, we had to go out and like find a guy

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and I got I was on stretcher detail. So I got the stretcher i'd carry this dude back.

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Like police line thing through the forest. Fire assesses injuries, field dress injuries and

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get them on a stretcher and get them out of there. That was like our test. There was a

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Sweet test actually, like

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a thinking about now I distinctly remember carrying a person that's why we we did something like something you remember very similar to where we had a person at a base and he had a radio and he had coordinates Natalie little computer and we had to go and find a quote unquote bomb which was literally just like a pontoon. Well, yeah, I'm attached to it. And even he had to like search for like a house where someone was injured and I don't remember if that was the same thing. But I remember our radio guy getting us lost. Oh, well,

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because all the other groups got finished. And our person who was like our guide, or the person that makes sure like, we didn't kill ourselves, was walking behind us. He's like, are you sure you guys are going the right way? Like we don't know. Our Radio berzin still you have to go this way but we're going this way. Maybe this is

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Because you couldn't really concentrate. He could read the code. We didn't have a compass. Oh, that we just had to be the problem is

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I think we did have like a little GPS, but it only told us like the number of points. Oh, okay. And he was telling us like

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the number points on that, like we didn't have like a compass of North and South we just said you should degrees and come okay. Yeah, we had the fat and then like a map made. That's Yeah, getting getting yelling on the radio and trying to find everybody is anytime that we ever tried to go hiking in Los Valley, or not less Valley, a Hercules glades. Hercules glad every I swear, every time we went there. We got lost every time. I don't know how this happened. Because, yeah, I mean, we were the last boys. Technically, I guess. So we ended up to that name. But every time we went, we got last time we went that one

38:00

time we went in like there because there's two loops, right? Yes. There's the high road, the height, the mountain loop or whatever. Yeah. And then there's like a more direct route down to the river, whatever. We always want to camp down by the river in the waterfall thing. Yeah, I'm the first time I went. I was we will. Right. And when we dad and it was awful, about some time, it's terrible, but

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because they're like, yeah, you don't need a backpack is just a short little hike.

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So the some of the older kids want to go and some one of the leaders they went on the big loop.

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And we went on the short one, I mean, quote, unquote, short one to the river. Well, they got mega lost. Right, and I distinctly remember one of the scout masters

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with a walkie talkie like climbing up a pine tree and like sitting in the top

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pine tree trying to walkie talkie people.

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Oh my gosh, we had to go. We went out.

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We just picked some trails, right. And we just started walking down them towards where they should been coming from and setting markers, railing rock markers, branch markers. Yeah.

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So they could figure out where the heck we were because

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we deduce somehow that the trail they ended up on did not meet the trail that we were on

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where we were.

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We climbed up this like big hill. Yeah. And the trail that they were on was up there somewhere. And so we kind of found it and we said blazes on that trail and big stone arrows to be like yo over here, and they eventually found it in like brush crash down the hill

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to where we were at

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terrible it was like it's really funny now but it was so much like I just wanted to come down and I'm like

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end up dying

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like it was not. It was really

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right

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it was very stressful

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for just a few weeks even that long for like your first one there's a first overnight because you know we will you go on like one overnight to like see what it's like yeah, yeah, that was mine. That was mine.

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Because I missed, for some reason I couldn't go to the camp or anything. It was like a weird time or we were doing something or whatever. So they're like, Oh, yeah, come on this one. You'll be fine. Easy. Yeah. No, it was.

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We started my boys got career doing all kinds of barely bizarre thing. Yeah.

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40:59

like the

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The only time I ever camp at Camp Arrowhead, I went twice one was like a day event where we had to like, boil an egg, using like a styrofoam cup, paper, paper cup. Now ours was styrofoam.

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Okay. And so we maybe they read the drum actually killed it, right?

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The the time that we stayed like my only camping experience at camper head was I was 10 partners with Dustin Smith.

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And we had we for some reason put our tents like on the crest of a hill.

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But it rained that night. And it just was enough to

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flood our tent just slightly over and so we woke up like 10 feet from where we

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originally set up camp, the flood or the water is just carried us and so we spent the night in his dad's car. I remember that and because our

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And everything got out of here about flooded since all right the second the first camper re that we went to like the big thing where like all the they'll come in yeah the different route coming Sam Okay, so

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the first one I went to ever

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again, like 12 years old. Okay, keep that in mind keep that in your brain. We were hosting it at

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circle bar k ranch. Right? We were the ones that are supposed to be like in charge. And so we had to go down the weekend for like, practice things and like set up stations winner. So down there.

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person that were down there really cool because

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a bunch of like random ROTC dudes, were there also. Whoa, and doing some like wilderness training stuff. And so we definitely played flashlight tag with a bunch of ROTC guys.

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A huge field. Yeah, bottom line, right by the river. Yep, there's the river, the swan Creek, whatever. And then there's the woods. And then there's a huge field. We played flashlight, tagging that field with

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ROTC.

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So awesome.

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Oh, this was a survival themed one. So we had to like build shelters and stuff. That's important to the story. Where so?

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Was that the time? Was it?

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Yes.

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My story.

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So, we're there.

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We have this really awesome TP shelter thing. It's really great. And I like Oh, the second night, Saturday, probably.

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Oh, it turns out, SEVERE WEATHER ADVISORY tornado warning for whatever county that is on organic. So we're sitting there and there was a rain hail

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Like awfulness they made us get out of our shelters that we built and get into those tents, little green Eureka things, because they're like, super safer in there.

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No, stop it. So I'm sitting in there and we didn't have all of them we just brought some for backup. So it's like five of us in those tents

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not made for five people now they're definitely three mountains. Right? Five some, some of them had more because there was just like getting the tent like

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so again in there and it's just boring, raining hailing. I'm laying down in that tent is definitely draped across my nose. And

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it was so awful like the tent was bloated, right?

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Water for days there. And when we get up in the morning, they're like, yeah, that was definitely a tornado

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and

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The worst part about is inside of our TV we built dry yeah of course. Terrible

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my tarpaulin ability

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Do not underestimate me. Yeah, that was the first time because we did like a million of the survival things and we didn't there but that was again It wasn't my first one like why what an auspicious start we've had

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45:29

drought like what the heck like

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my my first survival camp was at monster mountain at that vendela tour. Oh yeah, and I'm that thing. Yeah cuz I remember climbing it like twice before and then they're like, hey, you're going to do a survival things like Okay cool. And they put us together and they gave us like that survival blanket or the survival tarp like metallic one and

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over

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Yeah, right like and yeah. And I just remember I woke up and there's the group and then there was little me like five feet away like with my own little like, blanket that dad got me, which I still have and everyone else was under that little thermo blanket. And like I don't know if I just rolled if I was just slightly pushed out, but yeah, I slept I survived monster mountain by myself by feet away from people

46:32

in the cold. Good job I

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like it was freezing. Yeah, then I was like one of the first or second times I went on the Klondike Derby

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was like one of the only times or it snowed.

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Wasn't the mud Derby. The mud every was my second one. Like the first one I went, it had snowed. And again,

47:00

bench had miraculously left the front flap of the tent open.

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And I woke up and then there was a small avalanche of snow.

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Halfway in our tent amateurs using tense What the heck, man? That's all they gave us

47:22

from ever on. I slept in a hammock or build my own little shelter. Yeah, see you learn because

47:31

those tents are heavy. Oh my gosh, I'm not about that life carrying eight pound 10 I don't know why on earth they thought those tents were good ideas

47:42

for being in that trailer. Go into like bark as well. Yeah, but not not hiking in. No. And they so like another thing got to think about like,

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both for like the group of leaders that were there. By

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From what I kind of understand before by

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my group kind of got in there, they weren't really doing a whole lot of that they need some of it. But unlike a lot so like

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the older like way older kids they didn't do that kind of stuff. Oh, really? Yeah. Like it wasn't like not the same right? And they will go like floating. It's fine. Floating Mr. In the boat, whatever. Doesn't matter. But like, they weren't going on like gigantic trips, stuff like that like the reason that we went to like Ben Delatour Scout Ranch was because of dad like that. Yeah, we went to camp Arrowhead one time he took one look at that was like, No, no,

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no,

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no.

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We went somewhere else. Because, I mean, it's no matter what it is. Now, I can't speak on that because I haven't been there and good for 20 years. But back then

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Hello.

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It's so I know, it was terrible. He was like, No, this is garbage when I go in there until somebody else because it was boring like we were just like, oh, cuz that's summer camp was just like, oh, you just go over to this little cut? Yeah, in a circle and you learn about

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their bad things, whatever, whatever it was. Right? And he was like, no.

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We're out.

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Also, he was probably like, yo, he's hot. Where's the mountain move get out. Yeah, like Well, of course he'd be like, Where can we go that is are there Boy Scout camps in the mountains? Oh, look. Look surprise. Here's a bunch of robots go.

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That

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he was why we when did that stuff so? Yeah, initially like anytime they went camping they took that stupid trailer.

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The old one you remember the old

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million pound trailer. Yep, that somehow I got stuck being Quartermaster like 1000 years in a row. Every time we elected officials like no you can be Quartermaster Like what? You

50:13

can count all the tent stakes. Yeah. And then we have the world's heaviest camping supplies because they didn't. Yeah, do that stuff.

50:24

And then we kind of got some of that were like No, but I want to go like, really far right? That

50:31

I can like

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yeah, that's what like some of like the older like the older kids whenever I was there, they were like yeah, we just go here and we just camp and they did like stuff they printed like skills things right, like a place like a stationary place.

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And they go hike and then like it wasn't long hikes.

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And so like a lot of my group, my friends and like I were like, no, we're going hiking far right?

51:00

Anything

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its head, right? I did like one year of like what everyone else was doing it was like, no, yes. No. Turns out this is terrible. Like I'm not taking like you gotta bring all this stuff is like, no I don't

51:17

bring a tart and like a sleeping bag in a bedroom.

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Yes.

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That is it. And some like my little like those little like you can't cook in this mess can't watch me. I'm not carrying that pot grease.

51:34

You gotta carry this pot like you care that pie.

51:38

This is why I don't eat oatmeal anymore. Ever. Oh, yeah. That's all we ate. Like, oh, man, all my friends were like our troop or a little

51:47

group or whatever. I'm always called. The Lost Boys. Yeah. Then we were like,

51:53

what are we going to eat? What's light.

51:58

Some of the other groups are like, we're gonna bring all

52:00

This stuff like oatmeal

52:04

oatmeal, peanut butter yeah live on and so like to this day people like you want to eat some oatmeal no

52:12

much

52:15

all I'm carrying not carrying all that stuff Get out of here.

52:19

We're gonna bring this Pam no stop watching foot What do you hey hey I'm really yeah, no like are you carrying like ice bag lunch box cuz I'm not Oh I know. Yeah, the heaviest thing I want to my bag is water. That's right and i want lots of it is

52:39

like 50 water bottles not like 50 but like a bunch of water bottles and cool

52:45

yeah I survived off of ramen noodles

52:49

and then I got my first Camelback was like oh, this is amazing, but I think a lot of Roman to anything. I think it was like the second time they made

53:00

53:01

What was it yet the make your tent in complete darkness?

53:08

Yeah, yeah this is stupid. I'm just gonna hook up my hammock

53:13

call again. Yeah, there was definitely some where we're like

53:18

lay in the top on the ground, though yeah done.

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Especially speaking of the current river, we distinctly remember going there a few times and like

53:30

we get there unlike that trusting for the because we want that's why we did the 50 milers right right yeah and so we go there to that way up are put in place I don't know where it was

53:42

like you gotta put up your tent and stuff. Now, like one time we definitely I remember we just laid in the canoe and just put a tarp over top.

53:56

Not laying on these rocks. I'm not getting on my

54:00

My boat now so much just get wet and smell bad, so I'm not gonna deal with that right now.

54:12

Just gonna lay.

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Literally one time. I remember I sat in the backseat, my legs up on the side and somebody else sat in the front seat with their legs up on the side. We're like Yep, that's and I think somebody laid down in the bottom.

54:28

There it is. Got it on, just like propped our panels up and kind of drape the tent over that and again, look at that. We got it. Look what we did. Sleeping in that. Absolutely.

54:41

Is it gonna rain? No, fine. We're good. We'll be fine. We'll be fine.

54:48

It was during the boy scout 10 sale. I always try to make them make a thing of make like a fort or some sort of sleeping quarters music

55:00

Whatever was available, realizing realizing now, like how grow some of that stuff right?

55:10

Younger I'm going to use this as a like there was one of those basketball things were you she didn't have like little Skype the arcade thing we're like we're doing the back. Yeah, but it was like it was like a felt material, whatever. Oh, it's like, oh, I'm gonna use that as a like my little like cover, but like, thinking like, Man, that was probably in some persons basement. Yeah, totally.

55:38

growly disgusting, but I just member I'm just like, I'm going to use this I hated sleeping much

55:46

worse and it rained every yes here. Yeah, he just couldn't get away from that. I will go bad and it was awful and it was smelly in there.

56:00

But at the time at the time, it was so much fun. I don't know I really never I never know I did.

56:09

being there and working it Yes. sleeping there now, right? Yeah.

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Like Okay, you're gonna sleep just like right in the middle of town

56:20

right next to the highway, highway,

56:24

soothing sounds of highway.

56:29

Like, we smartened up later we slept in the suburban one time.

56:36

Button chorus Volkswagen camper bus one time

56:43

about that also kind of shows how trusting dad was because I'd be like dad would be here tonight and get okay just leave

56:53

you with I mean Joe Gorski so yes, but also

57:02

Where exactly you're gonna go?

57:06

Right? Go to the gas station. Oh boy.

57:12

Yeah, you're there without any transportation.

57:15

You're gonna wander the streets or not get taken by some random person.

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reads Oh gosh.

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Are the hardened back streets of

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Mill Street? Horrible

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business 60

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do you you guys remember

57:36

cleaning up trash on business 60 all the time there's that gas station. Problem. Oh that that would happen. There's my were we getting like free drinks at a convenience store or gas station that was there a gas station in downtown that burned down.

57:53

That might have been a business 60 right across from the

57:59

cast.

58:00

Yeah, thought was the gas station? MFA? No, it was further further east of MFA east. Yeah. Though, carwash? No, because that's on the south. That's on the south side of the road. This is on the north side. Know what? Now, next to the railroad tracks. Yeah. Next to the railroad tracks gas station. There was it was an old defunct there was a super old grocery store. That might have been it, but I think later I remember had pumps on the back.

58:34

a laundromat

58:37

but it became, I don't know, I don't

58:42

I don't, I don't know.

58:44

Me and Roger Seville. In two hours. I

58:49

cannot do that.

58:52

He's in Martin Van Buren, don't you? I am not. No, no, nobody is in Martin Van Buren right now.

58:59

That is alive.

59:06

Top Gear episode.

59:08

Like, we're, we're entering Jessica. Oh, yes. I said that. Yes. Yeah, we're gonna have to go on tour of downtown rockville because I don't recall. I remember

59:20

so right at business 37 in mill, there's a church, right? Yeah. And then there was the other church that was a grocery store long time ago.

59:30

And then like right across from the senior center, and then that's where the MFA was. Was on the on the east side of that right. Check your don't like a Caboose. Caboose, check your text messages.

59:43

just sent a map. Did you my empty your phone? Oh, no. That was not sending

59:51

a slow

59:53

okay, but it's not been delivered. Oh, just getting

1:00:02

Look to the east of the MFA building that long white building and that empty lot. That's there used to be something there that burned down there didn't

1:00:16

know.

1:00:19

Anything.

1:00:21

I remember. I don't remember. That might be true, but I don't recall. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah. I mean,

1:00:29

that's all I know. Well, it's literally something that I never went to. It's one of those things where they like, because across the railroad tracks there was there used to be a grocery store over there to it totally long time ago. But no, yes. there because it collapsed from ice.

1:00:49

Yeah, no, you you would recognize this. If you saw it. I'm sending you guys a street view. Maybe I don't know if this is a street view of that of that lot. When it comes

1:01:00

through here in 19 years

1:01:04

cuz I'm in Van Buren Missouri. I mean, yes.

1:01:14

Oh,

1:01:16

but what part of the Ozarks you've ever been to where you were you say to yourself, man, this is marvelous cell phone service. Nowhere

1:01:24

right across from City Hall right now. Yes, it is. Yeah, it was hard for

1:01:32

me it's like in that area. City Hall is that garish tin shed that they build, right. Yeah. This is across from that old.

1:01:43

Yeah.

1:01:45

Yeah.

1:01:47

Yeah.

1:01:48

There was a gas station or something. There

1:01:52

you go. So your mystery is solved for the evening.

1:01:55

I still don't remember ever going into that. I think it was long.

1:02:00

derelict even when we were little, I know Aaron's a liar. Now we went into something. I guess I got something to something. Yes, yes, I'm sure you did. I believe you, but I don't think it was bad.

1:02:14

There's a lot of other gas stations. There was.

1:02:20

It was business 37 personally not or not 37 trash on here where I am a 60 and yes, I recall picking up trash in business 60 a lot, but there's like, between there and like East there's nothing, not many things, especially back then. Yeah, not anything, but just been like a convenience store. or some sort of establishment. Man. It was like Hey, kid want a soda?

1:02:50

It comes predict.

1:02:53

Oh, no, man.

1:02:55

So we passed out

1:03:00

One point we felt like a service thing went down in downtown Springfield but like

1:03:09

grand street in Springfield right over there, like sort of north of sunshiny VMware right we were supposed to be passing out flyers door to door for like a pharmacy ah oh

1:03:28

was that Mr. good sense? I don't know that gave us that they gave us that no you're right you're right. They were like yeah they were like yo you want the sandwich has been sitting the window all day. Yeah, no, no, no. I told you put on a sandwich and then leave it in the sun all day and then try

1:03:46

trying to literally try to me I don't remember. If someone was that would have been Collin, but I don't know if you remember that because I was pretty young still. So I don't know if you went on this expedition of roaming the streets in a really weird part of Springfield but

1:04:00

Like, I don't think people and they were like what? Stop? I don't think I was doing the door to door stuff but I do have that's the only time I've ever have any sort of involvement with Mr. good sense. And I have these very vague memory of that. Yeah, it was that's because the pharmacy had at their grand opening Mr. Good since sandwiches. Oh man, like, that's what it was for. It was like a grand opening of some sort of pharmacy in that area. I don't remember where. But I remember walking down lines, like really weird streets and like what is happening some of these houses back then over there, we're not getting and so like

1:04:40

once kids walking down the street handing out flyers to people, like, yes, they the pharmacy had good since sons. And like, at the end of the day, when we came back, they're like, hey, do you want these leftover sandwiches?

1:04:53

No, I don't gross.

1:05:00

Oh, thank you sandwich Like what?

1:05:03

Yeah, but that's what that

1:05:06

I never did anything like that.

1:05:09

for good reason.

1:05:11

Yeah, I think it's because we did it at one time and all the leaders like Yeah, no.

1:05:17

We did other weird service projects like mostly just picking up trash or like

1:05:25

what's the trash picking up?

1:05:27

everywhere? We did a lot of things with secretive Park.

1:05:32

Like I remember going there a lot. I think well, we were I remember going there a lot when I was young, but just because like, we wanted to go to the park, it was unaffiliated with Boy Scouts in any way whatsoever. Well, I think it was a little bit of both, because I remember going there when I was little, and it really, really cool.

1:05:50

And then I think correlation without cool was like we should do stuff with Boy Scouts and they're like picking up trash. Now this is not as fun but it's really cool to be here.

1:06:00

I don't know. I don't remember doing that. I just been thinking about trash. I don't know what oh, we did this for the senior center. Remember that? Yeah.

1:06:09

Yeah, yeah, I remember doing like, when they would have meals they're serving and clean up and that kind of stuff. Yeah, I didn't. Didn't somebody built the gazebo out front for them? Yes. That was somebody Eagle Scout project. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. Somebody also built their library shelves. Yeah.

1:06:30

Yeah. And then we painted that.

1:06:33

Paint. Well, yeah, we cleaned up the caboose thing.

1:06:38

Gotta have a nice clean Caboose

1:06:42

was one of my guys and my truth that I think repainted it. I was gonna say yeah, cuz it's

1:06:50

1:06:53

yeah.

1:06:55

That's fate. That's probably accurate. My question is, How did Collin

1:07:00

Come up with

1:07:02

renovating or fixing up the concession stand apart

1:07:07

you get you get three guesses two of them don't count one of them is named Dad

1:07:14

I was gonna say is like went to the park it was like hey, this concession stand is garbage

1:07:20

sated Collin

1:07:24

project and then Collin was like, Okay. Okay. Also I seem to remember putting down a lot of wood chips at the park when they built a new domain. Yeah, yep. When they when they did this because he bows or whatever their why they built new playground equipment and we have and some I was with somebody digging the perimeter thing where you think like the pipe and then you fill it with like wood chips or whatever. Okay.

1:07:53

Yeah.

1:07:55

I remember God I forgot that you did? Because

1:07:58

Yeah, we did paint

1:08:00

incite now and got

1:08:05

stuff donated to for like an update that you could believe this or not the air conditioning system was updated

1:08:15

gasps so

1:08:19

only I could think I am shocked to the actually had an exorcism to begin with I have not recalled Well, if I mean I mean window units do do consist of those are classified as an air conditioning account again, I don't

1:08:36

I don't have many memories of things at the park. Like I have memories of the park in general like I know I was there. Yeah, but I don't remember a lot of other things like yeah, like I vaguely recall somebody watching one of you play baseball there. And perhaps soccer and tractor pulls. tractor

1:09:00

Mostly tragic there

1:09:03

are the purple dinosaur and firework squared

1:09:08

times.

1:09:09

Yeah, yeah, I do remember that when I was like in when I was in middle school I guess we're going to that. Yeah, I don't I don't remember I don't remember the concession saying I don't even remember where it's at.

1:09:22

It is it's back towards those fields and ball field things back towards the baseball field soccer thing, whatever. Okay. And it's the two there's like a big like the loop road. Yeah.

1:09:38

Yeah, it's kind of on the on the west side, kinda.

1:09:43

Yeah, on the west. I'm teaching directions right now in school so my directions are on point.

1:09:51

Blank geography geography time boys.

1:09:56

ever eat soggy waffles. What

1:10:02

I just remember my Eagle Scout project taking for ever because I can never get any volunteers. We did the evidence locker room the fire fire vault, whatever. Oh yeah, the police Legion and we added sorry I was busy that damn. We had a

1:10:20

fireproof door. We had it shells. We added a bridge Raiders.

1:10:27

The big problem was that we hate like we couldn't get into there because the police were like, yeah, we have seen the evidence first. I mean that and like put it all in the closet, but I can never get anyone to show up. It was always dad myself. Roger, Vicki was there busy and then like maybe like one other person.

1:10:46

I was busy not being boys anymore.

1:10:51

Whoops.

1:10:56

That was an interesting one. But that's Yeah, that's weird because there was a

1:11:00

There was there was kind of like an unspoken thing, right? Like, you have to have people to work on an Eagle Scout project. So like, usually kind of everybody in a similar age group would just like go, at least when I was there, like you just go to that one because you know that you need people to come to your door. So yeah, like you you have to go to their right. It's just, it was like an unspoken thing. So like, if my friend is doing deals got project I'm going to use if it sounds awful, I'm going because I'm going to help build some nasty fences. And I need help with that. And I know

1:11:39

because I was always dragged to both of your guys Eagle Scout against what I even do. You don't even know. You fixed up the cemetery. Crap. Yeah, I remember that.

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Yes. Do you remember how many years afterwards you were nagged by Me? Me to get lyst on the National Registry of history. Oh my gosh.

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My Eagle Scout project in the paperwork said, clean and fence.

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Got it?

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We did exactly what it said. I fixed some I set some headstones. I built a fence.

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There was a gate at one point. Yeah, somebody got it now because I see it now it's I think it's a new one. Oh, yeah. Because the gate.

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The gate was originally constructed of that. Do you recall that her in this black railing that used to be on Mimi's back porch? Yes. Yep. Yes. That was what the gate was constructed out of the frame was constructed out of that and then it had like a swinging pedal gate like the small swinging cattle gate. Yeah, you don't like the big cattle gates. It was like the forefoot, one of those right? Yeah.

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Maybe the with the small one one of those hung on a frame constructed out of that railing because she was like get this really out of here and we had it in dead barn and dad was like hey, we could probably well that into a thing and so we did

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we welded the gate frame

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out I mean, we say I say we I helped her there. Well did a little bit. welding is still awful, but

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we bother to get out of that. And then that was at the on the west side there. And then we set barbed wire fence around the whole thing. Even cats out of there. We turn those wishes way back. Yeah, mode, everything, got the grass all down, found the headstones First of all, and then

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reset some barbed wire fence. Yeah, we reset like we just kind of put them you lay them resetting.

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Yes, because that's what that we did call people and that's what they told us to do. So that's where like we gotta do something with them now.

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We'll do that. Like do you know where where they came from? Well, yes, because I can see the other half right here. Right? Well put it put it there so it stays together. So we did we called the some historical society and talk to him about that. And that's what they said to do. So

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we did set those a couple there was just a couple of vertical ones had broken off and falling over and we set up for that.

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But they told me to do that. So if that's wrong,

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I was told to do

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wasn't that like their only object was to

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set up a flagpole

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gravy you remember that? Yeah. Because I had I helped with that. Okay, well, that was somebody that was like older than me. Yeah, I think there was I think that's interesting. There were two there were I think there was another flagpole one. I was gonna say because the one I went to the there was older than me that was not justified.

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Well that was an enormous collectible that took or ever. We also like because it was at a cemetery church thing so we also did a lot of ground cleaning is an older one it was like really bad put stuff around it I remember that we have but we also spend a lot of time cleaning up the whole place will at least hit the one I went to get the one I remember

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we did that we went and cleaned up like a whole bunch of stuff. And like clean up a lot of grounds but I do remember the flagpole raising was a bear and it was not

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just like I'm gonna put a flagpole up good. No, no. Like

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I helped with a lot of projects. Mostly kids, because they were like, Hey, you can build fence now. Right? drive these t bars in the ground.

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Yeah, with the Yeah, exactly. That's one of the things. somebody sees you drive a fence post one time. That's your job for life.

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clang, clang

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Karen that driver

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smacking down on there right? Yeah, yeah.

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Luckily, I was kind of rubbish at running the wire.

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So I drive the post and this time we are running the wire here I was bad at writer one right?

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No, it's fine.

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Oh no I was bad at the running wire part so I just sort of had to come

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up Joe the posts, I set posts and then I would help like at the end when you just like

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wrap that little piece of metal around the house to hold the wire there. Yeah, I did that. Yeah, I like the wire stringing part.

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I would like unroll the wire sometime.

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But I never like was in charge of tightening said wire.

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It was mostly just like yes, I will walk while holding these reel of wire. I can do that

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with other projects. Well, I'm uh

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i'm gonna go

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grab some dinner

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Oh, you guys don't mind. Oh good. Yeah, where does one get dinner in Van Buren? Well apparently there is a McDonald's

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know, I knew you're gonna say that so sad. I also need to remember the stat but you're never more than like X number of miles away from McDonalds. There's a subway. There's also a local place called spring house cafe. I think I talked about that earlier and then closed already. Yeah, most definitely. Most

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really close. And then there's some restaurant that

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I think there's basically only three other places to eat. So I'm

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So the real question is which ones closest Natalie? Yeah, well, the one that's closest is the blue heron. It's a restaurant here in the hotel, but they are terrible last night. No. I meant what freestanding restaurant.

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Yeah, I'm going to go for a little east. But a mile. There's a restaurant there called the smokehouse in

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whatever so really go well, you better go then because places like that like to close early. So yeah. Yeah. Already. Thanks, guys. Heck, yeah, man. Thanks. We'll, we'll do this again soon and start getting them out. Absolutely.

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Love you guys. Bye, did you Bye bye.