Collin has coffee, but no dogs

Aaron went to Red Robin, yum
Brandon goes back to work
Main topic: Educators
- Brandon: By accident. With AmeriCorp
- Aaron: talk to smaller version of people
- Collin: went to grad school
Homework: James May’s “Our Man in Japan”
Terrible camera work
- I don’t need to see mans ear, I want to see bigfoot
Birds are unreliable bigfoot hunters

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Hello, hello. Howdy.

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Howdy. What What is the goings of on

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here

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with you?

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Yeah, kind of the same not really everything and nothing. So it's always a good time I made some French press coffee for the first time in a long time and oh my gosh it's so good.

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We go

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I need my coffee. I need my coffee and hydration volumes then can be provided by.

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Yeah, we had some we had some people over on Friday. And I was like, Oh, we should make coffee and then I was like, the only I don't drink coffee at home.

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Just doesn't come up.

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Shockingly.

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Is that why you do 75,000 cups on your dad's house?

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Yes. Yeah. Okay. I think that's just checking when I'm when I'm at work. It's just so I was like, oh, people are over. I should make coffee. And I was like, Oh, I just have a French French press. So I was basically just making coffee the whole time.

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How can I make coffee the least inefficient way? Oh, I know. The French can be worse. Gonna have like one of those drip things.

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Right. See I could had a pour over. Yeah, that would have been that would have been even worse. Be like

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the vacuum drip thing. You know? You like us? Yeah. That's super efficient. Yeah.

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Let me let me just turn into a bird. Nice to hear and make each one of you your own bespoke coffee drinks while you're here in my house

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but the special characteristic and flavor yeah because I can't do the same every time

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yeah it mostly because I'm not that reliable

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yeah so that's that's it we've survived into the holiday season don't have any dogs in the house. Hello crazy

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no it is it is especially since during holiday season we basically had like four to five dogs in our house every night for

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two months

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is many dogs and and now we have nothing dumb. Toby's Robin like

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yeah, so he's very he's very happy. You could tell you could tell that He's not happy to share anything with anybody to get new or an old toxin you are frustrated with the world.

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starved for attention boy. Oh yes so so starved nobody ever loves him pet him ever the real shame. Yeah, I know. He always oh wait that's all

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lies

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Yeah.

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Oh you have to Aaron traveling far afield today down to Tacoma city. I went and saw my lady friend and then I when I saw my, my other friends I live down there. They just had a baby. And so

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I mean it's it's not like brand spanking new but it's like It's a three week or not the weeks that three months old and so I went down there to see them and they also have two docs on so I mean, I was mostly there to see the baby but the real reason was out of toxins there

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as well. Yeah, I saw the concerns. This is a good reason. This is a good reason. Yeah, I had a little me out for birthday lunch.

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And then I then went back to where I

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hung out with Oh,

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complete the story.

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Now I'm trying to think what I want to read Robbins read dejay

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they don't sponsor us just yeah. If

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you will,

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and then we have food describe the food was it the best food you ever had? So when I went on there, and I went back in and I drew I just I literally got home like 30 minutes ago. My it's It was actually an easier drive because that actually got me a bypass for Christmas. And so I didn't have to take four hours to go you know, two hours but it was nice. It was actually nice. I got to use it. I was scared

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like I said, come get you. Yeah, cuz I was like,

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well, it was it was weird because there was just like a break in traffic going down there and it was like, just me. And thankfully there was and I can't remember where that but it's on 4435 camera, but it's the main one that goes Docomo city. Yeah. And we took a break in traffic and so like two miles ahead of me there was cars and then two miles behind me there was cars, but in between, there's just little old me. And sure enough, there was a

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year that cyclists that couldn't get back on the main group.

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There's a bunch. There was a state trooper sitting his happy self right behind the little Turnpike area. And then like I saw The thing coming up and usually I you know, I emerge into the right lane in a very cranky people, my quarters, like Well, sorry, I don't have change in that

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to me so if I had to work that job I would be the crankiest person ever. Right and I it's okay.

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Yeah. And so, but I was like, well I'm just gonna stay in this lane. And like I'm not gonna move but there was just that fear of what if you did move? And then it's like, if it doesn't register oh wait what are the things says you need to turn around and pay one of the little buzzers go off and then the cops can be like oh I'm gonna pull over that little car and then just everything just happened all at once and then there's a little box right when you get past the turnpike and it's it flashed why I'm on the Thank you What am I disbelief just poured over me but then I had the same feeling Coming back on the same road at the same Turnpike. Like, no, I know this just worked like a few days ago.

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What if? And then yeah, I've had that problem before where you throw your, like, not the ones where there's like a, it's just a light, you know, there's not like, they don't have the gates on them on the highway. Right? But, uh, I've done that before, where you like, you throw the money in, and then it doesn't like register that you did it. And so you're just like, Well, you know, I was like, going, I paid I mean, I don't know pay again. But there was always that trepidation of like, they're gonna find me. Oh, no, I will get

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out of your hide. I will say that. DFW totally has this solved, in that there are no passes. There are no tax. There are no stopping point then they take a picture of your license plate and they bill you.

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And it is amazing. It is so wonderful. Yes,

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that's all it is in from from no matter where you are out of state plates, all sorts of whoever is registered to the plate gets the bill.

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And I love that. That was amazing. Well, there is another option. You could tax your gasoline sufficiently so you don't have to pay on the turnpike to drive on the stinking road. That would be that would be the ideal option.

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No.

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Yeah, no, come on. Get with the program here while you do it.

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That way, that way, if you don't use the turnpike, you don't pay for it.

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Also, if you don't drive you don't pay for gas. Well, but you may be made Dr. Dre Yeah, also also this date tax and Missouri gas is not that high. So like it'd be fine. We're talking like, talking like sense. So stop it. Not we're not

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I mean, Oklahoma technically was done with this program like, two three years ago. In in theory, however, we are still having to pay Turnpike's because they I think someone pointed out was like, oh, what it would have been just too hard to just take everything down. So we're just going to keep up and people are like,

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let me give you this blisteringly high Missouri fuel tax rate. Are you ready? You ready? Yes. 17 cents. D they go. Oh my gosh, it's so high. Oh, no. What will I ever do having to pay seven Phoenix in the game is now saying they just rebuild the bridge here and guess what? I didn't have to pay Every time I drove by it

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I'm

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paid paid to look at is actually what that is.

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Now there are what I wasn't gonna say there. There's the the constant jokes with Oklahoma State with Why is Oklahoma State the color orange are always there, you know, school colors orange, because of all the construction. And like, all right, all right, all the road construction that happens on all the major roads in Oklahoma have been going on for years. Yeah.

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It's so

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hard to it's never know. That's the weird bit. It's always the same stretch of highway.

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Like all the other highways to like, when you cross the border from Missouri and Oklahoma, there's like an enormous bump. Like literally, that's the state. That's where the different state departments work on the road. It's like, dude, boom, go.

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Home, and now I can tell

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I drove home to like for one of the holidays one time and this one I still had the bronco and dad got mad at me because he thought I was like off roading. I was like no father. Those are the roads in Miami, Oklahoma. mention his shot of

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potholes is so big I remember like he's like ball in play. Yeah. What is happening? What drives trucks? You have to you can't.

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One week down to to Oklahoma City. I hit it felt like I hit like a lake is what it felt like a hit like and it knocked the rear window. The rear passenger window off

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its tracks. You said that

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window. Green, I still have not gotten fixed. But every time I hit a significant bump, it just goes right and it just falls and I remember I got down to I got down there and I called dad and I was like well the roads just broke my car again. He's like what do you mean is like they literally I hit something and I think I hit another state in my car and it just went

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like it's not my fault I promise I'm a good driver

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it's literally the roads the destroy everything I can't have anything nice because of Oklahoma.

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Just shakes it apart my belly

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rattling I'm in fear that's why that's one reason why I don't drive much is because it's just a constant fear of like well I might not have a car when I get back because everything will be just

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surely shake itself apart. Yeah,

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yeah, shake rattle and roll is all off. Yep,

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it's gonna come off like a battle with on a consistent basis. And then for work, they give me a state van and we all know the state man so are known for their suspension. And also turns out they're not fully Drive.

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No. Yeah, make sense? Give me I don't ever I don't ever look at a van and go. Oh yeah, four wheel drive. That's never crossed my mind. I just always assumed they were all two wheel drive. I mean, every time I look at a van, I go pee before wheel drive. That Yeah, we already know that you have a weird band things. Oh, no. Yes.

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Anyway.

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Yeah, I am. I had to go back to work tomorrow. So Oh, yeah, you actually have work work or is it like a, a or doesn't he? Like a work day? Like not? Yeah, no, this time. Weirdly, I guess just because of the way that it worked out. We don't have one Those going back on Monday, boom, back. Smile surprising because usually the first day back is often like one of those PD days, we come in, and you know, when you have your meetings about things, but they're not doing that this time. It's just straight back to my next thing, yeah. What do you think? How is that? What are your thoughts on that? I'm interested.

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That's good, better, or I mean,

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I find it interesting that so it almost feels like whenever they do that, it's like they back to you. There's almost like an expectation of coming in and working on vacation. Right? It's like, Oh, yeah, you should just be ready to go. I mean, I am. Well, like, sure. I didn't go back in there. Because I'm Asian. And that's time off work and so but it I feel like whether This is true or not. The perception is sometimes that like, they just expect you to do it. Yeah, why wouldn't jack to be ready to come back and start? So there's like an expectation of like, even though it's vacation, you should just be coming in and doing all your stuff. Like and giving giving us your time for free. Yeah, like no offense. But Hi, I work in education in Missouri. So you don't pay me enough to come in not trying to be like salty about everything, but like, no, it's not like a to put this into perspective. When I used to work in a factory, okay, a local factory here. Walking in off the street, you make the same as most as a lot of places do starting teacher salary, which is a job that requires a four year degree. Yeah, now I could walk in, I could walk into this window factory and you get paid the same amount. Paint windows. Yeah, paint to paint you get a little bit more

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that's like just

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to unload. Oh, okay. Yeah. Use me. Yeah. When you put it into that kind of perspective, it's like, not even, not even a skilled job because when you get to be painter, when I was a painter, that's a higher salary. schedule, right, that's a higher wage bracket. Because it's a sealed. Yeah, like, when I was working when I first worked there, I unloaded and loaded big heavy aluminum pieces. I'm not exactly a skilled position, but still the pay is very, very good. And I always I often compare it to that, like, well, even though that job was very, not exciting because it was just a lot of really hard work for you know, 12 hour days. It's not super fun. But like the paint was the exact same almost depressing to be like, Oh yeah, I went back to school to make the same amount of money.

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I was

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I was, like hazardous chemicals in my current job. Sure. Hey, except for the toxic relationships of students but chromium though, so that's good. Oh,

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there's no crew.

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I was

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I was talking to my to my girlfriend about like, teacher paid in Oklahoma because you know, that's so much. And I yeah, I was not like when I started teaching. I was like, oh, man, I'm doing like, Oh, this is this is awesome. I'm making. I'm doing work. I'm like, y'all this is this is okay for Oklahoma. And I talked to some other people. I'm like in bigger cities in there making like significantly more than I am. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I mean, like I was in a room. School District but

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also your district location makes a big difference. Some of a lot of the because the bigger districts around me, you can make way more starting off right as much as you know, we're talking lots more per year just going there. Right that's the that's the kind of the weird balance because since every school district is responsible for paying teachers, some districts the bigger ones can afford to pay the more and the smaller ones can't so much

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is me I thought I was doing like moderately decent and you probably work for a small school. So I know apparently I was on the low end apparently. Yeah. And I was in there talking to her I was like, wait, you make how much Now granted, she does teach at a very large not large really very like a good school like in down in Oklahoma City. I was like, yeah, so make you make you do good. You better than I do. Yeah.

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So it just it just befuddled me.

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Yeah. But it is distressing, because like, the school district directly south of me, you could you make, like, way more just starting on, but then you have to, you know, go there and deal with stuff. So that's another thing but like, yeah, so there's pros and cons, right? Like, yeah, you know, I like where I work. I feel very, like, the administration is very, like, helpful to me. And so like other school districts, you always get that so it's like, Okay, this is good. Yeah. Like, they tell me things like, yes, that's a great idea. So I'm in right like,

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Well, yeah, I think that

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the, the quality of life aspect is often overlooked of Yeah. Could you go and make more money other places? Yes, absolutely. But that typically comes with bigger headaches, more problems, and you have a spot where you Were you enjoying, you're able to actually do your job for what they hired you to do? You know, it's, it's often worth it to

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stay there for that you don't want to go and over break, but like,

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Well, yeah, absolutely.

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And that's kind of my situation of where I was at, like it was a good school like it was it was smaller than rogersville. And but it's still had that that kind of same atmosphere can survive. And so I was able to kind of work and thrive in that kind of ecosystem if you will. And I mean, I I enjoyed the school, I enjoyed the people, but yeah, my administration just wasn't supportive. And so I couldn't really thrive as a teacher. And so I was finally like, yeah, I mean, yeah, I would like to still teach but it's not really worth it to have that kind of consistent headache over and over again. And so I kind of had to make them Vout every, every place is different. So it's hard to know, right? until you actually in that environment, right, just like any job, like it always, like on paper, you understand what happens, but then when you exist there for a while

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ago Oh, right, like, yeah, the factory job was the same way. Like on paper. It sounds fine. But once you're there every day, for forever, you're like, yeah, this is, this is early for me anymore. I kind of want to do this anymore. Maybe not so much. I need to get out. Well, I can, right because like, Yeah, kinda gotta make that really hard decision of like, Oh, well, I gotta bounce on this other way. I gotta do it now. Otherwise, like, I might not have options later, you know? Yeah. Luckily, I was very young still. So like, I was like, Well, I'm out because I worked there when I was like,

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2122 right. So I was,

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you know, I was still able to be like, yep, nope. Bye. I'm out again. Yeah,

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that's interesting because people listening to this probably cut on, like, be both you worked are working in education. And how did you guys find your way into that? Like, what were what was that thread that led you to to where you are now? I always think the big question

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why I always joked is by accident, right? Yeah. That's what I tell people. They always look at me like, I'm insane. But I talk to them and say those on accident, right? Cuz I was working there at this factory. painting my windows, right. And, you know, it's a good job. It's kind of rewarding because you get to, once all you get to see like pictures of the buildings that you finished, like when they're built, and you go, Oh, that's cool. Like, the big St. Jude's Children's Hospital thing right. You know, in ways that Memphis for that is I don't remember. I think so. Yes, it's good. That big red front on it, you know, that big red walkway and everything. Painted that. But I worked that job. I painted all that red color is terrible to paint. Right. So you know we did that job, right. So it's kind of cool. You're like, Oh, yeah, Yo, I did that. Right? Yeah. Okay. But like I said, I didn't really like working many, many hours. You know? 12 hour shifts got kind of boring. So I was like, well, I needed something new. So that's when I started dating Susan. Right? And she was like, hey, there's this program at school, this AmeriCorps thing. And they like work with kids and stuff. And I was like, Well, okay, let's try that. So in for some reason, they hired me. I still am not entirely sure why they did that. But I did. And I started working there and I just Really enjoyed that like environment of working there and interacting with kids. And then I had to do a bunch of like you have to have X number of hours to get your to meet your contract requirement. Right? And it's more hours then are in a school day. You know what I mean? Like, oh, really, for every year? Well, they don't do it full time anymore. Cuz I think they were struggling with having people do this, but like, I did it full time. So you could do two years of service in America program. So what that is, is like a volunteer service that is in certain school districts. Not every school district has this. It's kind of a rare thing. But there's lots of them around Missouri, right? We used to go to conventions and there would be like all the misery America people there and it was like thousands of people right. But to me What it is, is they work in the school and they pay you through like a stipend. Plus, like educational grant money, basically. That's your pay. So like I got, like, X amount of dollars that had to be used to further education. And that's what when I went back to school to do my Ed education degree, that's us that was like, oh, okay, sweet. Yeah, and nice. Quite a significant amount of money. Right? And then the school chips in some for your stuff and everything, but you have to get out remember now, so many hours per year, right doing it. And it's a lot. And so I had to volunteer to and so I got the bright idea to volunteer at the YMCA. I can coach soccer, no problem. How did that go? I coach fifth, fifth grade soccer for a year and a half. It was actually kind of awesome. Right. I enjoyed it. That's the That interaction with kids is like the other thing that really got me into education, though, is being able to interact with the kids at school in like the school environment. Right? And then these other completely strange kids that I didn't even know. Like just being able to like, instantly make that connection and be like, Alright, we're in and be able to do that was like, whoa. And I did I mean, not to toot my horn, but I like had this moment of like, well, I'm actually kind of good at this. Right. Yeah, this is not like I you know, and so like that part and then like, some of the connections I made with those kids was pretty powerful for a number of reasons. and stuff like that. So it was kind of crazy. Like, there was just lots of situations like that. And so it's it's nuts because like, that was so long ago now that like, some of the kids that I met at school right there. Either like, they've graduated already. And like I have their little siblings in my class in sixth grade, which is kind of hilarious. Whoa. That's awesome. That's trippy. Yeah, that's interesting. But that was kind of it right? Like I was like, oh, but one of the kids I coached in soccer. He was my neighbor over here. He's, like, moved in a couple months ago, for a while, and he certainly didn't like what we doing here with that. team around team around town, like, Hey, yo, what's up? You know, he's like, 20 something now, as a job over here.

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So you, you kind of felt like, it just it was one of those. It just clicked. And you you were started getting invested in it kind of thing like, Oh, yeah,

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I can I wouldn't have done that if I wouldn't have been like exposed to it. Right? Because when you think about it, you're like, Oh, I don't know. spoilery knows. My AmeriCorps person will tell you this. Not the greatest paperwork person on the face of the planet. Some aspects of being a teacher that are very hard for me just because of the way that my brain processes information. Right? I'm a very like, right this instant type of person. Right? Which is very good and very bad simultaneously, because it is like, Oh, I'm really super in the moment and invested in what's happening right now. That also means that I'm not always planning super far ahead, because I'm like, so into what we're doing right now. A lot of my planning comes naturally from whatever it is we just did. Right? I'm waiting for that next thing to bring in. And I also don't always, like do a lot of reflection on what I've already done, because I'm still right now in the present, so I'm not looking behind me either. So things like grading, I'm like, blah. But you know, my favorite if not my favorite thing in the world. Don't do it, obviously, because it's just a thing you have to do but like, it's not like my not just looking forward to that never. I don't think anybody really is. But no. Yeah, I think it's, I think it's one of those things where I never really thought about it until I was put till I got myself placed in that environment. And then I was like, oh, okay, this is kind of cool. I kind of like this, right. And then so I, I transitioned from that to, I worked as a paraprofessional for many years, which is like a basically an aid in the special education department. So I work with kids, basically from K 12 over my stint in that, and so then I got to make a lot of friends in classrooms by with other teachers, which was super helpful, right, because I just sort of like you about teaching things. Right. So it's kind of like free education. Right there just like share stuff with you. Right? Yeah. If you talk to them, and you're like, oh, what about this? And they just, they will just tell you these things. And so that was that interaction was really kind of what made me go Oh, yeah, no, I like yeah, this is good. You can interact with other people. And I kind of like talking to the peers and stuff. And then, yeah, that really kind of helped me go. Oh, yeah, I think I can, maybe I'll do this. Give me a shot. Right.

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So yeah, you had you had some encouragement and some deeper insight into it than just,

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hey, they're

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hiring teachers. I'll just, you know, show up a little bit. Yeah. Gradually more and more exposure to like, kind of the whole system. Yeah, kind of, it was one of those like, when I started as like, you know,

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you started kind of in a lower position, sort of work your way up, which is weird is that normal thing that happens in education Very strange, but like, I think that just that constant exposure is what made me go Oh, yeah. Because if I never would have been in the school environment, I don't think I would have gone Oh, yeah, teacher. Yeah, it's gonna be just because I don't I was not something that I was had on my radar really. I knew I didn't want to work in the factory anymore, whatever. What else was gonna happen? Yes. I think just being in that environment kind of helped me realize, Oh, just all the people that work there and being around all the kids and like being able, like seeing that I could, like, be important to them. And like help them do things. kind of made me be like, oh, okay, this can work. I have some skill here. I need to like, hone it down, you know, not really good in the first place. was kind of like okay, this is Yeah, try this. See if this works. Just that kind of gradual climb up into there is kind of outward, very long and slow process and not the normal route that one takes to be

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educated. But how long? How long? How long have you been doing that at this point? how long you've been teaching there?

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So this is a hard question, because this is my third year as a full time classroom teacher, but this is my 10th year being employed by the school district.

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I see.

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Okay. Yeah. It's because of, of what you were

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like, yeah. When I worked as

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a reading coach for two years, you're technically employed by the school district for that. Yeah. And then I was a para or a whole bunch of years, right? Up until three years ago, like they were still letting me do they like, like, I was still being a parent while I was going to school, right. So I was really Really? Yeah. So like, get all that in. So yeah, it's really hard. I really don't have to answer that question because out of that, how long you been in school like, Well, what do you mean by that? A long time. Yeah. Very, very circuitous route to be. By you know, whatever works you find. Yeah.

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Well, yeah. Anyway, especially because no one's ever called me conventional. So it's, this is a word that does not go along the same line is Brandon. This is no,

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no, no, it's fair. So yeah, that was kind of it. Just sort of that slow, gradual, like realization of Oh, yeah. Okay. I get it. I mean, just around the kids. Seeing it, I was able to, like, do things, help them? Like, make tangible differences and how they went about their day. It was like oh, Wow, yeah, it's pretty insane. I should probably look into doing this more. That's cool. Aaron, how about how about you?

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I feel like I feel like you've you had, you had talked about being an education more openly or for longer periods of time. But, you know, what was that

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trip for you? I'm kind of the complete opposite. And like, not so down for something hurt. Most, most people are fair.

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So, for those of you listening, like Brandon did, like a really cool way in Yeah, it's unconventional. Um, I didn't really know. Like, I wanted to get into teaching. Because, you know, I don't if you don't know, like, I don't really like people. And so just dealing with smaller humans is kind of a compromise. I'm like, Well, I gotta be sociable. But I don't really like people. So I'll just talk to the smaller versions of them.

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smaller ones are way less judgy. and way more fun. So

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I, I got into teaching and Well, I mean, it kind of took me to kind of take a break from school in general. And that's when I, you know, substituted in Stillwater for about a year and I was like, Oh, you know this actually thoroughly enjoyable like this is what I want to do. And my problem was is that I didn't have like a clear path to that

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kind of end goal because I had like, three different advisors. And all three of them were fired.

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I'm at Oakland state.

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And so like, I would just show up and it'd be like a different person, I'd be like, What am I supposed to do? And then I wouldn't take classes. And so I was never directed to like, I never was told like you need to take this. And so I was like, I kind of had the impression of like, Oh, well, if I do this, I'll be golden. And it wasn't till I, like completely switched out of the College of Education. To my advisor that I ended up graduating with. He was like, What are you doing taking these classes? And I'm like, I don't, I don't know. I was told to and they they said to do this, and now I'm doing it. And they're like, yeah, you didn't need to take like all these classes. So I wasted a good almost two years, my life four semesters, just taking random classes that I didn't need to take. And so that's why I just switched to literally pure history. And I was like, You know what, I'm just, I'll just get out and I'll just teach that way. It's fine. I'll get alternatives alternatively certified, and just and just call it good, luckily done. But then when I graduated, they had all these other things that they added to like me graduating. I mean, just to being a teacher. And so and I had some of those already taken care of for when I was in the College of Education and I was like, all right, this is what I want to do this is perfect. Like, I'll just do this and just only focus on teaching. And then I caught the team like the coaching bug. And like, I didn't really plan on coaching, like I was like, you know, whatever. But you know, getting involved with the school and people being like, Hey, you know, we could really use your help. And that kind of really open an alley of coaching to where a lot of people kind of get involved into education to are like, Hey, I can I like coaching I like teaching I'll just combine together and work for a school. And so I really enjoyed coaching and my students really enjoyed that I was a coach and and all that stuff but I was I was a good teacher I wasn't those people that are like I just draw on the board and I'll we'll talk about football players better football players. If anyone out there has ever had a teacher like that, I was the complete opposite of were actually enjoyed teaching and things like in Like that, but I, it was kind of a struggle for me really, because I was so ingrained and doing higher education. And then they gave me fifth grade. I'm like, Oh, I don't know what to do with you. And the past, like three years of my last three years of college, I was essentially in like, nothing but history classes. And, you know, history. Professors are all super old, and I don't believe in, you know, computers or DTL, or technology. And so I was like, nothing but papers like physical papers. And so I was, it was weird to adjust. But it was a neat challenge. And the kids liked it a little bit because it was something that they've never really dealt before. And they mostly really liked it because I really treated them like they were, you know, kids, I didn't really treat them like they were just, you know, you're going to learn this. You know, I really went after this. abilities and what they enjoyed. And the kids were were really susceptible to that. And they're like, Well, you've actually treated us like we're human beings. Wow, this is really nice. And so I came at it more of a human aspect. But you know, like, Hey, if you're willing to learn, let's go through this adventure together. And I was very fortunate to only have 55 fifth graders in my experiment of becoming a teacher. Because if I worked at a big school, and I had, like, you know, 30 kids to a class and, you know, several different class sizes, I think it would have been a struggle but I was very fortunate to have really smart really engaging, not that many kids to be able to kind of work around those like, Hey, we're going to try this. Oh, wait, that wasn't a really good idea. Like I'll they enjoy this better.

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And then, when I was given the option to leave when I when I kind of That the mental crossroads of well, should I stay here and be miserable? With administration that's not really supportive. And that was my big thing I didn't have. Like, I had a lot of parents behind me that are like you're really great for our school. We like you a super awesome like, Guys, come on. It's your first year. I mean, come on, guys. Um,

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but,

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but if I didn't have an administration that was supporting me, that was kind of the crushing part. I was like, man, I worked all like I worked so hard. I took a year off from college just to get my balance. And like they weren't going to, you know, at least attempt to work with me. I was like, This is not where I need to be.

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It was extremely hard to leave that

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because

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of football game, my very, very first of the year.

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What I was still trying to figure out whose kids belong to who parent, which that's actually a very challenging thing to be like that problem. Who do you belong to? Like, which one are you?

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Like, a parent came up to me during a football game. And he's like, I don't know what you're doing. But I like it. I was like, I would Who are you a football player? parent, are you one of my kids parents and he's like, and he pointed to his his child. And he's like, my daughter came home for the first time in her five years of going to school, and said, Dad, guess what I learned in school today. And he's like, she has never done that before until you got here. I'm like, Don't cry.

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That's really, really enjoyable to hear what he's like and and also having other parents come up to me and be like, I don't know what you're doing. But our kids are actually like, wanting to be more engaged in school. So Stay here. And so having tough to actually leave that to actually have like parental support and chat and you know, the kids support that that was difficult. And it took me leaving, you know, teaching and whoever's listening, I work for the State Department of Conservation I was asked to focus on what Collins doing

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work for the Department, Human Services, child welfare. I'm an investigator and I do all the weird, crazy stuff. And it took me leaving that leaving teaching in being put into, you know,

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a more

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tougher job.

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And mean, like, man, teaching was actually really easy. Now granted, I struggled with science like that was that was kind of tough for me, but like his history came, like super easy to me. And by watching the kids faces react to history like that was cool. I really felt like I didn't have to work. But yeah, I was Brandon kind of the same thing you you had like with paperwork and I was like, we would do a test and I would totally forget to grade it and I'd be like, everyone passed. Yeah, you did. You did good.

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I mean that but like

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I wasn't like that

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wasn't that bad but I'd be like,

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Oh, I need to degrade all these papers that you guys watch Bill Nye for a second let me just finish grading all of these things. I don't have time to go like to play football or baseball practice. But yeah, it it like is something that I worked so hard to be in. And the the consistent like, wait, what do I do now? But you know, I'm supposed to do this. Oh, that would have been nice to know, like three years ago, of just not having really a consistent, hey, you need to do this. And so I was kind of shooting from the hip, all throughout college, and just kind of get Because no one could really tell me what I needed to do. But if I think I started a lot sooner, like on the right path, I think I would have been, like in a better situation to where, like schools actually would have wanted me, instead of me just showing up or having a connection to a school ready to be like,

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Oh, cool. Okay. But yeah, I am. Okay. I was gonna say that was the big benefit from doing my education to Missouri State because I feel like my advisor people were like, super awesome. Like the people that were in charge of the education program for the outreach program that I did. Yeah, down here. Because we did like off site. College stuff, right. Okay, other thing. Again, very non traditional, very, very excellent, very in my way. But, like the people in charge of that program are fantastic. So like that guy. They're amazing, right? So everything that they would do all the time. So yeah, they were just they were on top of it, they would do that they email you like all the time, like all my advisor people were like way awesome and super helpful. So, um, yeah, I didn't I didn't have I didn't have all of that.

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Like I said, I remember I showed up, like one day and I walked into the ladies classes like I gotta are my advisors office like I got an appointment with my advisor, and I walked in and I was like, Oh,

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hello,

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are you like, I'm your new advisor and I was like, um, and then yeah, getting that email later today, like blah, blah, blah has taken an administrative leave and talking to a bunch of other students it was because she was literally not doing her job and just telling people to take random classes

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and I always Did

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Yeah, pretty much like two years, or, you know, year and a half there were like three semesters or four semesters of just like, taking random things that I didn't need to take. So I was like, oh, neat. I, yeah, that's

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not fun. And so yeah, I didn't have that kind of, like, Oh, this is gonna be cool and awesome. I would literally go to like other departments be like, Can you help me come up with a schedule? I don't know. No one knows what they're doing. And so yeah, it was I learned a lot through that way of by after like my third advisor, I go into someone else, and they're like, why are you taking these classes? And like, I don't know, help me. It's it was that that mentality of, you know, not really having support in college for my own advisors, to kind of be like, is this really what I want to do? And then I started substituting and I was like, wow, this is what I want to do. And then in in teaching was like, Oh, this is I don't know if this is what I really want to do until I left and my god is what I want to do. Okay. Yeah.

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To close this loop, I think we need to ask Collin about what it was like teaching college students. And we're not the only ones that have teaching experience. It's actually about three of us. Yeah. Just did it in graduate school. Yeah, cuz, you know, but how was that? How did you find college teaching life?

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I actually was so

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weirdly, I actually really looked forward to that.

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It was, and because

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I wasn't teaching the lecture class, it was quote, unquote, just the lab. It was the point in time, it was that and so it was it was a Really, it was always a very energetic time for me. And I really enjoyed that with the students. It did. It did really weigh on me after six years of doing it of it was always the same thing. Like I didn't get to teach multiple subjects I taught in the same lab doing the same weekly schedule. Yeah, for for a long time. And yeah, I moved around some labs between spring summer and fall, but I was on a rotation of basically two subjects. I was on a human ANP and an ecology one every other year. And so it got pretty monotonous especially because I would have two to three sections of like, human anatomy. And so, you know, I would teach the same exact same lab every week, three days. Monday, Wednesday, or Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. And that that was really boring to me, because it got really hard. But I really enjoyed the students. The at the graduate level, when I was teaching and assisting these college students, they were mostly towards the end, when I left, they were mostly juniors and seniors. And so you had to deal with a lot of burnout. You had to deal with a lot of people who thought they knew more than you and, or just didn't show up at all. So it was, you know, I got a lot out of it. And I still implement a lot of the like, you know, I didn't go to school to be a teacher. So I didn't have a lot of the classroom management or writing or how to grade or any of that background. It was just kind of a, you get thrown into it because if you do this, they'll pay you money and you can kind of have a closet job. So Which was a little different, but I will say again, I enjoyed it. It was just it was hard because it was the same thing all the time. So towards the end it was like okay, I'm having a hard time getting the energy up for this to move on. But

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that's a good point. That's a this is a point of contention, at least with me sometimes. Because I feel like the thing that we people talk about when they talk about teaching it is all of that other stuff right the classroom management, the stylistic things, the the methodology, right? I don't think it's I don't think we can discount the actual subject matter knowledge base that we have. Right? I think that's very important. And I feel like people just gloss over that when they talk about teaching. And it's kind of like, you actually have to have to knowledge basis. Right? You have to have that teaching. Like, the stuff like how to teach knowledge base, but you also have to have the what on earth you're teaching nowadays? Right, which Yeah, I feel like, if you have a very strong one of those, it also kind of helps deal with the other stuff, because some of that stuff gets handled when you like, know what you're talking about. And you have a very clear definition of what's going on. Right. Right. So that's, that's one of the things it's interesting to think about. Right? And kind of what some of the differences and how much is it focused on in which one of those areas between different people, you know what I mean? Yeah, no, it's really,

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it's really good point because like when I was teaching human anatomy, you know, I was teaching students that are going to go on to med school and be surgeons and, you know, er doctors and that kind of stuff, and they are on their game like they are really intense. It's the other thing I learned is I mostly taught pre med and nursing students and yeah.

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theme I just most high strung students and program is very demanding and very, like stressful because like, if you don't meet the score on the things you're out, yeah, right. Yeah. No, it was it was it was, rightly, rightly so. Why do you want the best right? He's medical. Remember

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that the number of students that I would have in my office,

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just in tears, because this was They, you know,

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this was the last semester that they had no funding for or loans or whatever. And they were point one away from the GPA that they needed. And I couldn't do it for you I could do nothing. All right, I was not prepared for I was not prepared to sit in my office and and cry with students because their dream of going to med school had collapsed.

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That's not fun.

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But when I was teaching the like the ecology in sixth grade, no, you don't have to worry about crushing someone's gifts and dreams.

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You just have to tell them they can't play basketball this week, because they haven't turned in any of their papers. Already have zeros if you would give me back some things I could help you out. But as they just they go to you and then they disappear off the face of the planet. Yeah, I'm sorry. I can do anything. I can. Yeah, and I am

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When I would teach the ecology one, it was definitely a lot more like it was a big comfort zone because that was Mike my effing laying I was Yeah, that was that was masters that was but the other degree was on like, all that and so whenever I teach that course it was just, Oh, it's so much easier so you mentioned these two knowledge bases of I was way out of my element and human anatomy because that's not my thing. But and I didn't have like the classroom management and writing the curriculum, writing all that stuff. But when I was in the ecology one it was like, This is my jam. I don't even have to look at the lab manual. Yeah. Day. So then, like the the stress level really,

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really way down, right? Like Yeah, yeah, I felt that way. Because I when I was teaching fifth grade, I felt like cuz me wanting to teach like math like okay, I mean, I got it. No worries. I got it. No problem. Like, we're gonna teach them science. Yeah. Got it didn't teach writing, huh? Okay, that's what I would lean on my co workers a little bit. Yo, what are we doing today and writing? What's going on what's happening? Because that's definitely not my strong suit, right? Like, I have a very particular writing style. But I cannot. It's not always the most useful. And I can't always convey that to fifth graders about how to make it work. So that was one of the things that I was kind of excited about being moved up to sixth grade, because there was a vacant spot there. Now I just have to teach science and history. I'm like, Oh, yeah. Again, it is ancient history. So there is some of that like, what about Egypt? What's up think about Egypt again? Like that's a little rusty. Yeah, like it just helps. Right? Because when you noticed like in my science classes, like I'm very, very animated person. So just part of the classroom management, so just kind of comes away because you're very like, again, I think it comes because I'm like so in the moment, like I said that it just kind of helps to be aware of what's happening like, everywhere. You're very focused on what's happening. You don't have to worry about classroom management. And on you pretty much Yeah, as much. But again, when you're in the moment, you are also seeing all the things that they are doing or are not doing. And you can be like, Yo, what up? Yeah, that's mine.

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Now this, this conversation

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reminds me of something that I I actually written a while ago, and it was something I I wrote for, for my students right before I left and I posted it and it was I wasn't told it was a series that I was writing about things that about graduate school like that they don't tell you about before you get in and this one I read It was called nothing difficult teaching

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nothing. Yeah, well,

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and this one was like I was talking about. I wasn't, you know, I wasn't told about teaching. And it was like, I wasn't told that teaching is harder than you'd expect it to be. I wasn't told how annoying grading is, especially those pesky research papers, I wasn't told how hard it would be for me to remember the students names. I wasn't told how much i'd care for their success and to challenge them to grow. I wasn't told about the heartbreak of watching students struggle through devastating life situations. I wasn't told about the students who would look up to you and come to your office for moral support. I wasn't told that I'd cry with students. I wasn't told that sometimes I'd be the only person in their life helping to keep their head above water. I wasn't told how utterly fulfilling and challenging being a TA for some random biology lab would be. I wasn't told how much I love it. And because all of those things to happen, and you know, one of the challenges when you're dealing with college students is you're dealing with little adults like pre adult sometimes just yet on this verge of like, 100 going on. So they're, they're handling social pressures and drinking and drugs and, you know, trying to meet expectations of family members and hold down jobs sometimes. And that was a really weird and really sometimes uncomfortable spot to be where they come in and they'd say, you know, I had one girl come in and she was in tears. And she was like, I'm so sorry. I can't turn in. I didn't know. She said, I'm so sorry. I wasn't here the past two weeks because I, you know, I miss class, and she just stopped and she goes because my dad died. And it was like, don't you don't need to apologize for any like, it was like, you know, having that thrown on your plate all of a sudden of like, I'm just your TA. And now we're having this

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part. Yeah.

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You know, and it's like, it's like, ah, I don't know what to do with this. And those life situations was was really, man those take a toll Anya and that was that was above and beyond the curriculum the what I was supposed to be doing that day it was when those moments happen where all of a sudden I was I was a life coach, I was a career coach I was I was a guru rah rah up in their corner kind of person a lot of times and that that was something that I just totally didn't expect to to be in the position of just doing some

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fuddy duddy ta you know, lab you know, try it with random sixth graders are very strange. It's very similar. It's not dissimilar, really because like we talked often about like, Yo, this is, this is the time in your life where you're deciding what type of person you want to be like some days, you want to This type person, some days you want to do this, but then your friends will be like, yo, that's dumb why you wanted that, but you want to do it. So you'll be, you know, sad. Like, it's very tricky. Being 11 and 12 is very hard to tell them. It's very difficult.

1:00:15

So I had a kid, and that was kind of what column was telling, or was saying that, like, you're not prepared for like, I had one of my baseball kids come up to me and there's like, no, coach, I can't. I got to quit baseball, and I was like, Well, what are you gonna quit? I gotta quit baseball. Well, I gotta, I gotta get a job to help with my family. And I was like, dude, you're in high school. Like, there's no, there's no book

1:00:41

about,

1:00:42

like, how you deal with this and like, I was talking to this guy. His name's coach Hennessy down at vagues, Oklahoma, and one of his players died. And he's like, it's like, there's, this man has been coaching for like, 30 years like man, there's there's an Nothing that can prepare you for that. Like there's, you just gotta roll with what you can. I was like, that's what I am new to this. I have no idea what's going on.

1:01:12

Yeah, there's all kinds of crazy family things ran like where, you know kids live with other relatives because their parents literally don't want them. Yeah. Like Get out of my house. I didn't want you here. Yeah, well, I Holy cow. Like I've seen that before. That's like, what? Holy Cow man,

1:01:29

since literally what I see from my job like this guy. Yeah. And I get when I go to court, and parents walk in, like, I relinquish my rights. And they're like, What? Why? And like, there's Yeah, there's no trick like, Yeah, I just got done with

1:01:47

you went to many weeks of training. Yeah.

1:01:51

Yeah, they don't tell you any of that. Like, they're like, oh, people are going to be helpful and wonderful. And now like, I was literally in a courthouse and Parents walked in is like, I give the court my approval. I don't want anything to do with my kid just like walked out. And I was like,

1:02:06

Okay, I'm like, that's a thing. Yeah, that happens a lot.

1:02:11

Yeah. So it's like, yeah, there's nothing to prepare you for that. And so and the that's one thing. I try to teach a lot of my kids especially a lot of my, my baseball players, and it's like, yeah, like, This kid is like, I'm sorry, I can't play this year. Coach, I gotta find a job with my family. I'm like, dude, how old he was I going 16 I'm like, man.

1:02:32

Hey, my heart. Yeah, but that's Yeah, that's how it is, man. Some places it's really rough. You know? I try to tell him I tell him I you know, I tried to be real. Like, I remember being 12 It was awful. Not going to sugarcoat it for you. It was kind of terrible. Right? So, like, I get it. So it's, you know, Gotta work on this. We got to do this together because it's it's rough, right? Yeah. It's really you're all weird. And you do wait one minute. You friends one minute you're not friends. We're very arbitrary reasons, like, very tricky

1:03:18

to navigate and what's going into middle school. It's like it's a whole new

1:03:22

navigating the social structure of a 12 year old, my gosh.

1:03:27

I do not envy that at all.

1:03:30

But that's actually the hardest part of my job is not the earth science. It's

1:03:39

Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

1:03:47

Oh, well. Well, good. Yeah, that's pretty sweet Christmas cards from some of know, so I was like, sure. I'm not crying. You're crying? No way.

1:03:59

Yeah. But that, you know, that's that that goes back to speaking to why my both of you are where you are now. Right like that, because that is that was something that you saw the need for that you could I could feel that you could invest in the student. Yeah. In the kids that you work with. And as part of its above and beyond being a good educator being being

1:04:25

talented and conveying information, it's these other components that, that, that feed into it and that are part of it. Yeah.

1:04:36

That's the thing.

1:04:38

I always lead with that answer, because that's what's always on the posters, and that's what they want you to say. But it's true. Like

1:04:44

it's a cliche for a reason. It's

1:04:46

great. Yeah, it's true. I often be like, No, I just love rocks, man. I don't know what you're talking I checked my email the other day to make sure there's nothing I missed before I go because I generally don't check my email when I'm home. But going back to work, I was like, Okay, anyway, I probably make sure I didn't miss anything. And one of my students had sent me pictures of rocks they definitely found at their house.

1:05:21

Yes, yo.

1:05:24

Science over break. That's what I'm talking about. Yeah. Love it. Great. like, Yo, this is a desert. So we'll see. But yeah. more of that now. Yes, on that anger, more rocky want to send my ways and send me some pictures and be okay. Yeah. don't even have to ask. True. So did anybody else buy all of their EDC kit Ready to go? On the channels? Gonna Be honest. No. I have to I have to have the items I have got. I mean, I have been off for weeks, two weeks right now so I had some extra time by checking. I think I have

1:06:22

I have two. So hopefully by next time will be will be all set and then we can like start so like all right. Yeah, I think that's the that's the plan.

1:06:34

Okay, my check. Make sure remind everybody. This is challenges still happening. It is. And I'm gonna win, though. Like I don't even know. Maybe you don't even want to start it. But like I can't be throwing that otherwise Yeah, I'm just gonna can't lose if you don't try. You Aaron. You got anything. I have not I haven't been home like at all

1:07:05

because I'm actually sitting on my couch for the first time and like a week so I mean, beloved couch of couch on the legs. I haven't I have kind of dropped the ball on this one also, I haven't met

1:07:16

what's fair. Again at work, I have not been doing anything for especially this past week. Like all the holiday stuff has been done this whole past week. So I'm just been like, chillin, watching stuff on Amazon. Right. Hanging out. Yeah, that's kind of it. So I understand. Not I'm not shaming you. I'm just saying I'm done. It's my

1:07:47

singing.

1:07:51

Okay, so one, check, make sure. Next week, make sure we're still on board. So I'm excited to get to go antenna, but also Yeah, I watch a lot of stuff at Amazon and the James may show is fantastic. Yeah, I I just I just found out that it was out today because I saw somebody wrote a review for it and I was like, I didn't think that was supposed to be out till later this month and I checked it it was all came out, like on the third and I was like, Oh definitely like, I think there's six episodes of this. Oh, oh, wow. Okay, they just they just throw them all out. Here it is. Boom. It's like it felt like are made in Japan. Yeah. Oh, I see commercials for that. Okay, it's out now. It's going on work. So you need to check it out. It's so good. Teachers assigning homework. So good. I love it. So yeah, we've already talked about that. You have time to watch at least one of those because they're only like I bought something like 45 minutes. I think I got like 45 to 50. I watched a couple I think I watched three of them. today. One yesterday and today, I'm not sure. I think I was learning. I watched one this morning. And then two later, I can't watch like some people watch. Like, I can just sit down and watch them sequentially. I have to like, I don't have the attention span for that. I need to like break in the middle and like, do other things and then come back later. So yeah. Even though it is good, super hilarious. And Excellent. So I just can recommend saying watch that and tell him so we'll talk about that. What do you do? Huh? Okay. It's on. It's on the list. I'm very excited about this. Anybody?

1:09:49

Still, I'm still waiting for

1:09:53

the next one of the grand tour to drop. I heard it was in Madagascar. I think so. I think

1:10:00

Yeah, I remember so I follow them on Instagram.

1:10:04

And

1:10:04

I remember all of them posting pictures through these places over time by I didn't know what they were, you know, what order they were shooting or anything like that at that time. So

1:10:16

I was trying to think about the last one like I just saw something about it the other day, like they were talking about they're filming. And that happened. This is 100% speculation, but that happened for the last episode, just like a week or two before it aired. So I don't know if there's thinking putting that out there is like, Oh, hey, this is a thing that happened. editing and everything now. So we're talking about I'm not sure on how this cycle this works. Because there was all this stuff I saw on my newsfeed like oh, James me says he doesn't know if he wants to do it. But then there was another one that's like, the last one was awesome. I was like, What ton of ages internet like garbage or like, oh shuttle thing, you know? So z, but the cycle is that being out there was happens I don't know again I don't Yeah, I don't know when that's supposed to come out. I don't know because I seem to remember that they were initially they said that this season was just gonna be like too, right? Yeah because I still true today do more. I don't know.

1:11:32

Yeah I haven't I honestly haven't kept up with any of that kind of stuff so I don't know

1:11:39

I know because I know they're all going to do their own shows for a while because made this one that are made in Japan. Hammond is doing something for the Discovery Channel. Really, it's called like, big something or something. Like it's like big machines. Not sure what's called remember and then Carson did was gonna do that one about he has bought that arm yet a fun one. Yeah, odd

1:12:12

sir I'm kind of concerned about but I'm totally gonna watch it. So let's just be real. Yeah.

1:12:21

So I don't know there. I know how that fits into this schedule thing but like I don't know, Google discovery here we go

1:12:37

just called Big

1:12:41

interesting name for someone for a show hosted by someone so it's probably the joke so funny. Yeah it's about like big like machine Like shipping boats and aircraft carriers and stuff. This is February. So the UK date? Don't know. But anyway. So that's all that. So I didn't know how that was gonna affect any of that other stuff. Where if they were going to do more next time I didn't know, I didn't know that actual number of how many of these things that we're going to do. Yeah, no I, I've heard I've heard it's been it is

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supposed to be a low number.

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But I don't have anything specific and haven't heard any thought at one time I heard to and I was like, well, that's boring. But if that's Yeah, change your mind. I know.

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But also I know that it is obviously a ton of work. Well, yeah. Huge specials, because even during even when they're at the BBC Some of the seasons didn't have specials on them.

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Yeah, so you just had it takes a lot again, I think we could do with less specials and more like cheap car challenges or races or they're like random like car versus public transport ones. We do some Yeah, booze I like those ones a lot like other things right did they kind of didn't do very much see something on imager I think it was it was like more of this please and it was like that the motorhome one and like Oh, yes, the boat one like when they made him it was like I actually have we just have more of this. Like we need more of this, please.

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I was like I agree. I agree wholeheartedly. I actually hit hand on heart just watched the motorhomes one last night. So

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Yes, that's a good. Yes. As great, though I totally agree with that. Yeah, actually, I think there was another one that I really like to know kinda like this man one, obviously. Yeah. Well, but like, even that one, like I was very good. I mean, I went to so for example, be nice. also realized this is gonna be very tangent D. So bear with me just a minute when you watch, so I was watching James May thing today, okay and this goes back to some camera work, things that we need to discuss or that STD yell about for a minute because it drives me crazy go ahead and the camera working that show is very excellent. right as you might expect, like the camera shots are great because it's like a documentary program right? The camera shots are all very good Most almost all of them are excellent. They make sense, right? While I was eating supper tonight, I was watching, just trying to find some random to watch where we eat supper. Right? And we're watching the show and Animal Planet about like Bigfoot. Right? Whatever came and bigfoots funny, it intrigues me, you know, mildly interesting. I'm watching it. And

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it's supposed to be because I remember hearing about this not supposed to be mildly credible, like Dr. Maria Mayer is on the show, right? Like, oh, that's an actual primatologist.

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Yeah, the camera work in the show is so annoying. so terrible. Then I don't know what like just out of film school person. They have running sandwich.

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But it's terrible, right? There's a bunch of like in the woods and the cameras just like the side of their face. I don't know what kind of Blair Witch thing they think they're doing here.

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You cannot attempt to give me actual scientists performing actual scientific research. And then like, give me shaky cam, and terrible camera angles. And like these really weird like, there's these pieces to camera that this guy was doing. But they did that thing where they would put the camera like low into the right. But he will treat. Yes and talk. And I'm sitting there going, why to whom are you speaking? Are you? Are you supposed to be talking to me? The viewer? Is there someone else in the room? But I don't know. Yeah. And when they did whenever he was actually talking to somebody else.

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Like they put the camera directly behind that other person. So when I was talking, the other guy was looking right at the lens. And I was like, Well, no,

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this doesn't make sense now because he's not talking to me anymore. And then he's looking at me. So he's not paying attention to this other guy out or What's happening? I know I'm thinking way too much camera angles on TV shows on travel channel but I was like what is happening right now? Yeah, overdoing this okay, you're overdoing this a lot. We need less camera

1:18:16

is that is that the Dutch angle where like they're staring off the medium? They're staring off to medium distance but the camera is just slightly down to the writer to the angle.

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Paul Yeah, I think. Yeah. Very it's a very film school angle. Right? Yeah. Not a canvas and you saw that in a like, Quentin Tarantino movie. Or what's the other brothers? One of the names, the wish housekeys or whatever? Oh, yes. You saw that in their movie. And we're like, Oh, I love that movie. That's so cool. Let's do that. Doesn't belonging Yeah. It doesn't belong in if you're trying to present Bigfoot to me in a scientific manner. I don't want Dutch angle. I don't want your Sergio Sergio Leone a foot shot. I don't know Blair Blair Witch Project extreme side of a man's head in the woods. What are you doing? I can't see anything I can see this guy's ear. So I have all got here we doing

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but but but do you really see his ear?

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Yeah you know I didn't see a big but he was an ear Okay fine. We're like oh, this is suspenseful like I understand you're in the woods at night. You can't really see anything. Maybe Don't show me the side of a man's face. That's not what I want to see you program about Bigfoot. Okay, well, I'm here. Another establishing shot of a tree maybe I don't know, but

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because it would be hard because you can't do medium or long shots when you're in a and would

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at night, right. So you are, I guess it's to give you that feel of intimacy and proximity to the action and what are the kinds of things like they're trying to build suspense in what is basically just a man standing in would be something else. Yeah. happening. Like, Oh, no, it's just dispensable. No, it's not. He's a guy in a field. I have stood in words. They're not suspenseful.

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Yeah.

1:20:37

Also, side note, another one. They found this, like the hair, you know, they're like, Oh, we have to test his hair. See if it's a Bigfoot hair, right, blah, blah. They always take comes in and he goes, you know, they always say where they found it. Like, I found this on the ground. Like, dude, that's l care. Okay, whenever he's like, I found this one in a bird's nest on top of a mountain. Like Okay, well first of all that's not very helpful because there is absolutely no telling where in the world that bird got that hair from. Okay sure. The Bigfoot did not police it in the nest, okay. didn't even have to be on top of the mountain birds fly very long distances and grab random things in which to put in a nest so this is the least

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wonderful scientific data you could have gotten.

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Now I will say they use why use everything. Obviously I can tell you need to come down there easy

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summer, Dinah

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will say the US. Sometimes they'll use otter nests to look for muscle populations and do muscle estimates in an in a particular reach room and There was also research done in the Florida Everglades, on the snail populations there where they would look at the kite, some species of bird that fed almost exclusively on the snails to look at. And that's how they would actually find new snail species sometimes as they would know where these birds would roost, and they'd go and look underneath there and see what sales they were eating.

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So, if you come to me, with the hair that you're like, you're very adamant about the fact that it came from this one location. The location is what you're looking for. I like oh, no, I found it in a bird's nest. Okay, that could have come from 15 miles away. I don't know how far this but he didn't tell me what bird it was, first of all, so I don't know how big of home radius is bird has, but could have come from a many 10s of miles away. Right. So if they're trying to lock down a location for something, finding an object in a bird's not helpful. So I'm sorry. Birds are unreliable Bigfoot hunters. Yes. I think it's writing it down. writing it down. Ah, yeah. my rant for the day. Why do I need to see camera angles of an ear? When I'm supposed to be hunting a mythical creature that probably doesn't exist in a wood in the Pacific Northwest somewhere. I think whatever. I'm not sure. Like quite Yeah. My other exciting for today I've been very bored at home school I

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don't think your students are going to be as enthused about your critique of camera angles and

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they're not going to be awake tomorrow that's gonna be the struggle tomorrow. Okay got it easy back in here real quick exercise or something yes I'm very yep wow guys it's morning we need to be like awake now. There was a high hopes for tomorrow but you know to go back in lonely remember school remember how to walk in the hallway without shoving each other? No Okay. No.

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Actually news

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they don't they don't remember how to do that.

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I should push you on the stairs. Yes

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of course it's a great No, no, no, no, no, no dragon dragon. All right again please. There we go.

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