Plot tunnel
Teachers work hard, and feral hog corner.
Aaron is back from investigating
Teachers are awesome. Seriously.
Teachers put in a lot of work. Seriously.
Where did that plot tunnel come from?
From Mesopotamia to Egypt
Collin misses a Top Gear reference and he’s ashamed
“The Rock”
Culture zeitgeist of King Tut
Turns out, it actually IS all Greek to me
Feral hog planning...is not gone well
Aaron peanut buttered
Jam vs marmalade
Utility of creamy peanut butter
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Hi, Aaron, Aaron here. Hello.
0:21
So apparently my my laptop doesn't recognize my information but my phone did so
0:30
interesting. You talk on your phone call and you listen to me. Yes. I am talking to you via my phone because my laptop doesn't recognize any of my information I legitimately try to put in. Oh, that's weird. Well then, I mean we get I mean if I sound good on this we can talk this way for a little bit but I'll sit there and fight on my laptop.
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Sorry.
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Yeah, as long as you're gonna have you're gonna have battery for the rest of the call. Heck yeah, I'm sitting right next to my charger. I think you'll be okay. But well you plugged into your charger though. I did it charges by osmosis
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is my hopes and dreams was
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was Tesla's dream, right? Yeah takes it in. Okay this is what you wanted to squirt. Electricity in the air
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not wreaking havoc on anybody's body.
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It's fine. Nikola Nicola was a smart man Hey, it'd be okay. I'm I have faith. Yeah.
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What does that mean in context of electricity, I'm very
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a reference to Van de Graaff generator, maybe it could be I'm not sure how much buffing those do. But
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the Boy
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can everything nice just gonna lay here all right, I guess I'll do it this way. Which couch Did you just lay down on? Question? The only one that I care about. Ah. Oh the one the one true couch the ones who couch to picture in your wallet. Okay. understand
2:39
what's new Aaron?
2:42
Um great question. Um, I literally just got back from investigation a about it.
2:57
No, no, no real New developments
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in inset life every every time you say investigation I want to follow it up with dun dun dun Well, it's nothing that cool. Unfortunately.
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I it was
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there, there's a lot of things process wise that I have to do. In regards to if we get a call concerned about something, we have to do background checks on people, Child Welfare history. And then once we get, you know, kind of the information we need, we go out and talk to people and I've not had a single,
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like, easy case. And good
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for the record that everything that I've done so far has been like super, like not serious. I'm done anything like outrageous. They've always been like pretty cut and dry. Yeah, but everything I have had, there's always been like, eight kids involved, or gray, my 12 different ads that's listed. And so you got to talk to all of them. And so, and then once you do all that, you then have to like, go back to the office. And then like, depending on you have to request medical records. And that can take up to a week, two months to get everything. And there's a lot of paperwork to hold. And then if there's tribal affiliation, or not yet to contact the tribe, and notify them and then you have to wait on them. And so there there's a lot that goes into just on like one little thing. And so that's that's what I pretty much did all day for this one.
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Call. I feel like I feel like the double jurisdiction that you have to deal with a lot of the time would be the most, like confusing and difficult thing to deal with. Right? Sure.
4:56
And it's it also kind of depends on the tribe to like, You know, clearly some tribes are bigger than others.
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Um, yeah.
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Indian Child Welfare Act in 1978. Someone who can Google The year was you have to put up most effort into doing what you can for the tribe. And so we're very fortunate luckily enough that we actually have the Osage nation in, in posca, literally, in Osage County, on Osage reservation. And so there are a lot of times they were they're very much like, yeah, sure, we'll go out like as it depends on the tribe, and where the home is, if it's on tribal land, you can't go out there until you have to exactly an individual of the tribe with you. But thankfully, we we do have a good ally, and a good set of people that work for the Osage nation that are very much like, you know, give me five minutes I'll meet you out there or Hey, let's come on over the office. We'll talk but yeah, we You know, there's there's also a lot of the very, very smaller tribes that don't have the resources to have an office here their stuff, right, like, exactly like I remember, I called out trying to get
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notification about this one family. And there's a family out in California. And I was like, hey, so do you know if this person's affiliated with your tribe? And he's like, dude, there's 12 of us. I know, everybody, and I go, thank you for your time. And so there's a lot of things that go into doing that.
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And so it's I
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mean, you have to do it. No. And that's also good practice. You want to show good faith?
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Oh, yeah, definitely. But at
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it, yeah, I worked with the tribe not too long ago. And the person's like, I'll go out with you. But a lot of times you get really, really tiny nation. That's like, I mean, to send us what you got. Alright, cool. See you guys. Later.
7:00
Yeah, but there's also tribe that that want, like every step of the way, or will go with you in person, which of those are really, really nice. But then you got to get the medical records and you got to get the school records. And there's just a lot that goes involved within with it. And then, you know, kind of again, what if you have to figure out where
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people live at is they live on tribal land? Do they not live on tribal land is the school on tribal land isn't not on tribal land.
7:27
And that's, that's usually like you show up like, Hey, is this tribal? That I'll be back later? Yeah, timeout. You're taking a card. I'll be I'll be back. Yeah. And then and then sometimes, like, with the apartment of Human Services, like we can take a full investigation, or the tribe can be like, you know what, we'll take this one, like, oh, here's all my paperwork. There you go. It's yours.
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But most of the time, they don't. They don't usually have the resources or the opportunity or the means to do it. But the they work closely with us. But that is the whole process in general doesn't mean with any with anything takes a good long while and that's a lot of a lot of times I'm very, very exhausted by by just getting home is like either sat in the office and typed all day and contact the people or I was out driving around and I was literally out driving around all day
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today. And so I was I was all over Osage County, but in a good way. I was actually doing really good stuff with with people today and it just it just took a lot out of me. Yeah. Yeah, that's that's really all that's all been going on my end. Nothing really too. too interesting. Shelby says Hello. Oh, hello. Hello. Not here, but Oh, I know, but I interpreted that whenever she was in a few This comes out you're like Oh, hi everybody.
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Howdy everybody
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pleasantly surprised or absolutely terrified yes
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your time
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yeah it's been
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the one the definitely the one downside about this job the things that I do is that it's always continuous there's never like a stopping point because you know like with with school or with every other you know kind of main work it's you know, there's like a break or something but this is usually kind of continuous. No, I would like to fight this misconception now. There's really no such thing as a break in education either. Everyone, everyone like to say that, like, bro. Yeah, yeah, whatever you want.
9:56
Professional Development during those times. You have to do No, no meetings, you have to go clean.
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I mean, like, you basically have to have laid out most of an entire school year before you can start to scope and sequence and pace and all that nice shenanigans. You might not be at school,
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but like what you're doing
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is doing, you're doing Yeah.
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Yeah. And that that was my first kind of mentality of whenever I started teaching was like, oh, man, this is I get a break. And it's like, oh, I know like, but like the the first major break. Was it like Christmas break or Thanksgiving break? I get a break. This is Oh, no, I'm not there.
10:37
Because I, when you go back, you have to have things ready for the first day back move done. And a lot of times, there's no there's no like, every once in a while, there'll be a break. And then like the first day is a PD day. So you're kind of at school, doing meetings, and then you have like some work time. But a lot of times it's like, oh, you're on break. All right, first day back. Boom, classic. Gotta make sure I'm ready for class. Like, so. Not, not not doing stuff. You're very busy. I'd like to dispel this common rumor now because I'm basically everyone thinks that teachers don't do anything. Because your position in society as a teacher is like, very low. Everyone thinks that your job is trash and they don't like you. So isn't that weird though? of just Yeah.
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Like, it just has this weird stigma
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of like, oh, you're a teacher. Like, right now?
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Yeah, yeah, that's kind of what he's like. Oh, that's all you do. Like Come on. But
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yeah, that's Yeah, I definitely learned that the hard way of like, oh, man teaching this is just awesome. I get a break and it's like, where's where's my break? I thought I had a break. There is no break. There was never It was never a break.
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Summer School now breaks
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I
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I definitely learned this when I coached. That's like, that's definitely a
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like, Oh man, I can work
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over this and you know, I might get home like a little late. No, like I was like crawling into my bed at like, one o'clock in the morning from prag my other doing stampings or, you know, watching Game film and I'm like
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why am I here? It's so late
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because I didn't anticipate I knew like putting in effort and things like that for coaching was a you know a thing, but I was like, I'll do this will be totally easy. Like, no. Do you want to be if you want to be a coach one day Don't listen to them. Don't listen to the lies.
12:53
That's fair. Yeah, that's that's kind of the common misconception. Like everybody. A lot of people say that. You know, it's like, oh, you don't do it. thing like what? Yeah, I mean, I think maybe at Walmart at nine o'clock at night, but I am doing something. Yeah. Get your things because you forgot to buy marshmallows for your stem project and you're like, oh snap, I need those for tomorrow.
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Yeah, or you're trying to find something for a gravity table and you can't find any stretching material. So you're all trying to find pantyhose. It's what happens. Yeah. You think all of your students should be in bed about nine o'clock at night and then you turn a corner and there's three of your students just chilling and you're like,
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Hey, everybody, so
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this happened to someone else I'm they told me about it, obviously. Yeah, yeah.
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No, it is yeah. That I found stretching your material and I'm like, Oh, this save so much time I just did it this way.
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How do I sound now?
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Keep talking, because that was just about 30.9 seconds.
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You said how do I sound now and then stop talking? So What about now? How do I sound? Better? You sound fine. Yeah. What did you do?
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Kind of hard to do that when people are talking over me now I just set my phone I to build like a pillow fort.
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We can hear it.
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Yeah, I was wondering if you were like moving or if you were.
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You're playing with Lego.
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Yeah, if you were if you were building all the things that Lego
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was. Speaking of which, we're at dad's house,
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and kids loved playing with Lego like hard core. So if there any pieces missing I apologize for that. But a two year old and four year old we're playing with him quite extensively.
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Which like,
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like when the basement. Okay, you can say because we worked hard on that one upstairs. I don't even we've tried to hide that. We didn't
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there's a one missing I'm sorry.
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That was actually Collin playing with it that was actually the watch.
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Don't brag on them, but I was like
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I'm here to true for some for some context Aaron and I might have put together received and put together the train station by Harry Potter Lego set for Christmas. That might have happened. Just maybe it's really cool. Yeah, it was really cool. They build a train
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to train.
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Reporters
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Don't you like it lurking in the corner in the shadows? It was very lurking for a Lego Lego. Yeah. Just put dementors just out in the platform and one would see it gotta be neat man. Not how they do. I'm totally in a little area in the film, where they're just attacked in broad daylight in Dudley song. So yeah, so again, that's a playground in the middle of nowhere and a tunnel. It's weirdly in that city. I don't know where the tunnel goes. I don't know what the purpose of having a tunnel there is. I think it's for dramatic of dramatic effect only right only scripts tunnel that's running away from Park. Going through the tunnel. Yeah, the whole area is like open and flat and they're like
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into the tunnel you like not? Well steps later they're in a dark dingy secluded tunnel
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for you doing Yeah. What? Where did that plot tunnel come from? What has happened? Don't make no sense. Agree
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what's up with the brain and
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not a lot started ancient Egyptian related things we've
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moved from ancient Mesopotamia mess up. Yes, yes,
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yes. Yeah, Egypt, Egypt. There we go. So I started doing Egyptian related things, talking about the Nile River. It's a bit it's kind of a big deal. You know, any Old Kingdom Oh boy. So we're gonna do some stuff about like, you know we're gonna watch a video later and we're gonna do like make him do like comments about it in everything and then is going to do about tombs and stuff and we might do we might do an exercise about like if you were an Egyptian pharaoh, what would go into your tomb? Okay is the video Prince of Egypt? No, this is not,
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is not is also about the bummy starring Brendan Fraser unfortunately we're not watching that either. is Steve Martin giving a lesson?
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No, No, he's not. Okay, just be part of the expedition unknown with Josh gates. Like human doctors, were like just uncovering this like random agent to that has like a complete money just in it. Like Well, we're gonna watch some of that because that's cool. Okay, I
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actually watched a little YouTube thing of that. Yeah,
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we're gonna watch we're gonna watch a little bit about that because it's got he kind of goes into some backstory about some ancient Egypt stuff and we did a lot of reading today and yesterday about it. So we're gonna do some visual things and kind of see because that's kind of the big thing about Egypt is like Nile River. Extra important for economic purposes. And like, religion things. That's kind of the big Egyptian. So, um, you can also talk about how, like to this day how, you know, important denial is because I was listening I'm pretty sure it was NPR but I was probably zoned out by the time how it was Egypt and who was it Some other African country knows is Ethiopia and some other African country that I can't the math behind me. I don't want to turn around that they were arguing over a Mario cell. Yeah. If they're fighting over water rights, it's probably Ethiopia and Somalia.
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No, it's Egypt. No, no, Egypt and Ethiopia. We're building it someone which one of those building Ethiopia was building a dam and preventing?
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Yeah. So in Ethiopia, man, that's way down there. Dan. Egypt was pretty upset by it. And then Ethiopia was like, No, we have a right to this. So that's even in today's standards, you know, we don't have anything is currently happening in Southeast Asia on the Mekong because China's like, no, we're going to build the dam. And so Laos and Cambodia are like, Oh, hold on. Wait a minute. We need some water here, please. Yeah, yeah, the night we talked about that. We looked at some satellite images. On Google Earth of modern day Egypt, oh, yeah. Do you see a problem? Like the stfc where all the cities still are? Yeah. One swath of dream and the rest of it is just barren. Another key though. There's no town names over here. From here. Yeah. We
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showing the historical documentary of three adventures searching for the source of the Nile.
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I thought about it, but then I thought, you know, that's actually based more on 19th century British history. And I thought, as much as Henry Morgan Stanley, and the the weirdness that was, the colonial rush for Africa is interesting. I don't think that's probably the time period we should be focusing on at this time. So
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are you going to talk about the debate as to the source of the river Nile and show them the historical documentary from Top Gear?
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That was literally I was talking that is what Aaron was referencing. I know.
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I'm just curious, I just guess but no one says I already answered the questions that no, no one said specifically Top Gear, did they?
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Yeah, we I was picking up what he was putting down. Let's just say it that way.
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People other people might not so I'm going to play that guy.
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Literally spelling what the rock was cooking. By
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the green philosophize, or Dwayne The Rock Johnson true, one stated, do you smell I'm paraphrasing, Joe. What I am cooking. Yes. Side tangent. Quick, because my kids think they have jokes. I have this big giant piece of volcanic rock on my shelf. It's like a lava bomb. Basically, it's like a huge piece of like scoria or something. It looks like pumice but it's been blasted out of volcano. So it's this big, huge piece of really sharp pointy volcanic rock, like it's, it's, it's like almost a foot and a half long. Right and about, I don't know, I would say close to a foot tall. So it's kind of an oval oval shape and its enormous. And it's quite heavy, even for volcanic rock standards, but you can like throw it in the air and stuff it's not too bad they kept referring to it as you know the rock because I wouldn't tell them what it was called until we got to the rock unit. You know? You're so mean like that to them. There was a cure so mean you don't tell us the answer. Like
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Yeah, cuz you're gonna find out the answer yourself. It's more fun that way.
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So one of them. One of them who is thinks he's got mad jokes printed off a picture of Dwayne The Rock Johnson and taped it to the rock. I like it very much. So yeah, just being like yes, the rocket and he's we just have his picture on my wall next to the
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green. When you got to that
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section Did you just say that its name was Dwayne now? No, I didn't we still call it the rock even though we know what it's called now we have just continued to refer to it as the rock on the. Okay. Anyway, there are no volcanic rocks in Egypt in this part and it's all sedimentary base. So we'll go back to this. Yeah, just gonna watch some stuff about mummies. Cuz I think mommies are crazy. They're like our mommy's real. And I was like, This is mommy's real look. And I showed a picture of like, Ramses a second, like, Look, looks very real to me. And they were like, No, do it pullovers. No, it's just in bad movies and We are going to do, I did find this thing that I'm gonna buy this like activity thing we're gonna do though, and it's like one of those, um, what's it called? It's like a group activity where it's like a cold case thing. And you kind of get they, they work in small groups. And they look at evidence and they have to kind of piece together the evidence and try to draw conclusions about what they think happened, that we're going to do about King Tut, like, was king murdered. Go through a lot of those theories. This thing has like a bunch of theories in it and like, you got to figure out which theory you think is correct. And based on the evidence and which evidence do you think is the most possible and that kind of stuff? Yeah, really neat as we'll talk a lot about him because you know, he's kind of a big deal. Also, Gene to the tomb and all that stuff. Well, and he's, it's kind of,
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I mean, cultural icon is is a but now it's an understatement. Right understatement Yeah, I was gonna say it's it's really just a linchpin of connection that most people have with, with Egypt as a as a country and as a society throughout
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Africa. I mean, that's a what, just about 98 years ago, that was discovered now, which is just crazy. Yeah. Right. And so we're going to talk about I told him that I told them there was a kind of a, we were talking about our introduction thing, we're talking about how Egypt is still like ancient Egypt is, even though like you might not know about it a lot. You don't know like a ton of details. You've heard about it. Oh, yeah. It's it's weirdly culturally relevant. Still. Yeah, it's got a little there's lots of little things that are like, still in pop culture. And a lot of that is from the discovery of King Tut's tomb. Right. A lot of almost all that stuff came from that because that was a huge Excuse me, like revitalization of interest in ancient Egypt, wherever that was discovered. And like, the fervor around that, in the 20s was in sane and it lasted, you know, they were making all kinds of weird movies in the 40s and 50s about that kind of stuff and
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it's all kind of it really was a cultural cultural Zeitgeist of it that is continually perpetuated and it's really again that just that touchstone of you immediately know. You might not know a term you might not know exactly where it comes from.
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You know, King time, right? You have some sort of association to it either be King Tut. Or, you know, a lot of people don't necessarily think of like, Cleopatra, who, even though it's not like the ancient ancient,
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yeah,
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think of but time removed wise, it wasn't necessarily
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crying. It was much closer to Ancient Egypt than it is to now. Yeah, that's so yeah, you're right. Yeah. And it's just crazy. Because like every once while you just read in the news like, Oh, yeah, they were because they're still going through that stuff stuff. Yeah. Right. Like there was so much stuff in that tomb. They're still going through it. And they're still like finding news. I read an article last week. I don't remember what it was about it because I only read like the first little bit of it. But it was like, Oh, yeah, researchers find this thing in relics among King Tut stuff. Like, what did you not find out already? Right? You've been looking at this stuff for 100 years and there's still like new stuff in there. That's the quantity of things that are more in that tomb. It's just ridiculous. To think of the A person from what 33 3400 years ago, thousand years ago sounds like that in a roundabout is, is yeah is still capturing the minds and attention. It is be like a defining feature of a country. Yeah. And he's just kind of some random, like in the grand scheme of Egyptian pharaoh in history. He was kind of like some random throwaway dude. Yeah, he didn't really do a whole lot. Right? Yeah, he was he was little it's fascinating because he was young dad was insane. By especially by Egyptian standards. Ah, no, we're gonna throw away all the all the old gods and just worship the aka the sun god or the we're going to move the capital and I'm going to change my name. And we're going to all this stuff. I'm going to build a brand new capital letter. Really in the middle of nowhere and go from there. And that was such a weird random like, What? What do you what you're gonna do what? So you know that whole thing with Rocky Mountain was so crazy really to think about it just a cultural upheaval and then like after he died everyone was just like, nope, nope, here's a here's a common one. We're going to, we're going to call him by his, you know, old name, and we're just gonna it's fine. Just kidding. It's we're gonna go back to how it was like, Can you imagine how bizarre that would be? Yeah. Well, yeah. Yeah. Well, it's like your king who is also your God was like, Yo, I'm not that God. But I'm like, I mean with this God now. Yeah. Yeah, well, let's wait can change everything. Don't worry about Like, you know, religion was a lot more, you know, different in those days. A lot of people were like, okay, yeah, sure, whatever. And they were just like, anyway, hey noobest What's up? Like we're really on it. I'm sure the inbreeding didn't help much But still, you know, that's fine. But yeah, that was not taboo. It's time it was fine. Whatever. Whatever. Yeah. So that's gonna be weird. And we're going to talk about that and we're going to look at some pictures of the stuff that came into his tomb. Cuz you know, it's just all there. crazily just hanging out. The Go Go is just literally everything. Yeah. Cuz we've been talking a little bit about mummification and why. And everyone they just kind of look at me like, Oh, yeah.
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You know, you
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can really do is go.
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Yeah, it's what they thought. They thought. Yeah. I mean, it's weird enough when you're like, yeah. So they they believe that the body had to exist continually for you to live in the afterlife because your body and soul were, even though they were separated, they were still sort of connected. They were linked. Yeah, inextricably linked. Yeah. You're the boss in the car, right? So they would, they were still together. And they just kind of look at you like,
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Really? Yeah.
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And then you tell them like, and then you would have to go before a panel of gods and they would weigh your heart on a scale, I guess the feather and they're like your way What? Yeah, their responses to that conversation was super interesting. They're like, Are you kidding me? But yeah, you know, shockingly. And if you didn't study from your Book of the Dead and you didn't know the right answer, And you failed the test. Or your heart was not adequate. A giant crocodile headed monster ate you in it and you just cease to exist no afterlife for you and they're like, okay, that's messed up like yeah, I don't know, man. I can't I don't know where this came from. It's so out of left field like what? I'm sure it like, I'm sure culturally that had to come from somewhere. But like when you just read that you like,
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when you read it in its final state you go very way
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you don't really connect those dots. But yeah, yeah. I'm you being removed from that. It's hard to know. Yeah. Development. It's a that's another reason why I think gyptian culture is so interesting for people now is because like, it's so different. That it's kind of like, kill what because like, even even like You know, when you start getting into, like Greek and Roman, there's a lot more familiarity happening. Right? Like, I'm convinced a phrase, you know that, you know, people say, Oh, it's all Greek to me. Like, yes, yes. It's actually true. It should be your alphabet
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here. You're on the right track.
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Many things, all the things I do we use different flags in, like blue and red to represent different things kept spoilers. But he, Egypt is very, it's just so different. It's just sort of fascinating. Right? there kind of has that like just a luer of the exotic I guess, for lack of a better term. It's just so different and so kind of outside of everything else. Yeah, don't have a good Have a
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grounding in it at all. You just you just kind of you can't go You can't anchor yourself to one point and go Okay, I understand this I can get over here. It's just it all just kind of
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is. Yeah, it is maddening. Yeah, a lot of it's just like that like Yeah. And they would build these like crazy elaborate tombs and hide them and there was booby traps and they filled it full of gold and any pets or servants you needed were buried with you and you're like, what?
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Now stay with
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me? Yeah. It's only gonna get weaker. We know what food they ate because it was buried with him. Like what? Yeah, well, get hungry. get hungry. Yeah, it's just so like, all that aspect like the cultural religious aspect is so different, like a lot of the other stuff is kind of the same, like, oh, there was, you know, mainly agrarian. You know, there was basically serfdom, right there was a fair which is interest Everything and know this absolute power situation that stuff is familiar. So there's like a small tangible grasp but the rest of it's like what? I don't know. It's so so that's always what I thought at least when I was a kid was interesting. Right was just how kind of bizarre it all seemed to me when I was younger. Like you just read stuff or people tell you stuff about you like that's that's, that's weird. Yeah, that's so weird not in the sense of like, oh my gosh a little bit like weird isn't like it's just so outside of your normal register that you're like you don't really know how to fully process it all yeah okay go. Okay. Okay. Yeah it's like I don't really know how to compete that at this moment I can get back to me in a little bit after some time to think
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and even then it's not going to help much
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so Did he have an Ibis head again? I don't wait, what?
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lose track of the Yeah,
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the feather. Remember the feather? Yeah. Yeah. So we're delving into that adventure. So it's kind of interesting. just fun to hear him talk about here. That'd be like, like the conversation is a really interesting. Yes. I like that. Because cool, fun, man. That's it. And I've been doing this doing that frantically trying to make sure I have pacing laid out stuff and things. Yeah. Like no wait, no, I want to change the order I want to dispersed and then we'll do that try to make it make sense, you know, because it's all weird. But yeah. So yeah, that's been my goings on. Currently. nothing too exciting. No, aegypti thing. Thanks. And what about you? Lastly?
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Lastly, uh, so last we spoke. Well, I know that I have a place in the department now, which is nice.
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Oh, good. Yeah. So.
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So we had two options. Well, I guess there were two options. Nobody else had to say on them.
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Right. So were they really options at all? No.
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We were either going to go into a state wide front function under fisheries, none of this will mean anything to anybody. And that's fine. These are just terms. The other one would, the other one would would we would be going into resource science. And it came down that we were going to move into resource science under the Eco flow unit. doesn't make a whole lot of sense. But it's also interesting because
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it rhymes like it does. Right? Yeah. It's like that makes it easy. Cool. Cool t shirts. Yeah. Except it's aquatic systems.
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No aquatic systems service, aquatic system section. So our acronym is ass.
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I'm gonna walk back what I said about the T shirts.
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Yeah,
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no, we're all getting t shirts with just to
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thank the system
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section anyway.
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And so we are, my group is being merged with another small group from resource science. Resource science is the Research Division of the department and not only division, research branch for the division, and so we'll get to work more closely with Some primary research this department does, but I know we know our box. We don't know our job duties, though. And so that's supposed to be rolled out by the end of the month. Whether that actually happens or not. I don't know.
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So we have place. Now, step one,
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plan, know where you're going. And then after that we will build they'll tell us if we are like, what, what exactly our job duties and expectations are with us.
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So yeah, that's fun.
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Thankfully, that's that small parts over. And then today, we got a everyone the whole department got a nasty gram because they didn't meet their signup quota for the feral hog
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stuff. Shocking. Shock man Who woulda guessed I would have possibly guessed that.
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If you ask 150 people to sign up for the worst jobs ever. You're hired. department ever conceivable knowing what they were like find out. They send out a nasty gram that was like you if you are not involved in CWT, you better find a place to work throw hugs. You do not want us to sign people. And I was like,
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I mean, you're, you're basically signing them anyway, like
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you're just mincing words at this.
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But yeah, it's like
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it's like
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what are you going to do to come to me music con you have to go out there and hike and I turn around and I go, I don't have hiking boots and I'm not buying them.
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Apartments gonna go.
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We're not buying them. I'm going to go cool. Looks like I'm not hiking. It's like
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what do you do? You can do? I don't have a sleeping bag. I don't have I don't have any of that stuff anymore. It's all Yeah. And so and they're not buying it for me. So I'm not going out and spending $500 to get equipment
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that's just going to get tore up for something that's not enjoyable. So what are they gonna do? I don't know. So that's where that's where my headspace is on that.
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Now this does, but this does now, we've landed in a terrible quandary because my mind got stuck in that part of the conversation. You What do you do about the equipment because if they buy it, they own it. But that means that you have to use the same sleeping bag as someone else which is grody. And they are not going to wash it. And it's nasty. Yeah, well, I you can't be expected to buy it because that's not necessarily accurate. Like you shouldn't be expected to buy all the equipment for things that they're making you do. And
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I'm not funding the hog, you know, program with the department that's just weird in sick Yeah, right. Might as well just ask all the employees for donation.
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Yeah. I feel like the correct answer here is they need to offer especially with the first round. So with the first round of duties needs to come included with a stipend with rich with which you can become equipped. Yes. Now it doesn't have to be like, you know, a massive one. There's lots of you can buy equipment relatively reasonably now. Right? But you still do need to be somewhat kitted up, right. You can't just go out there with a blanket in barefoot, you know, exam so here it up in the woods. Yeah. Yeah, I mean to be something provided, but they're not gonna do that. Sorry. Yeah. But there there has to be a stipend because yeah, like you said, like, all the people that work in offices all the time. Like, I think it's a weird It's kind of a weird sense to be like, yeah, you work for the Missouri Department of Conservation. You must be an outdoorsman. I'm sure that you camp all the time. You already have this stuff like, obviously.
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Yeah, no, no, that's not how any of that works. And so
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it'd be like, Oh, you're a chemistry teacher. I'm sure you already have, you know, hydrochloric acid at your house. Bring that school. Know what you're talking about.
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Let me ask you this. Do you know like, who came up with this idea? Or was this like a collective?
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This smells like a committee.
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It's a committee for sure.
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He does it because it sounds like someone got promoted to a position and they came up with this end all be all idea that sounds good on paper.
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And then that sounds like a glorious thing. That's gonna save the state of
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Yeah, they call it a workshop it they just went with the first idea. And once they started, that person is going to bounce.
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A good idea.
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And then it's getting geared for another position and then playing with it.
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Did you plan to like give the department? Yeah. on their resume to get hired somewhere else? Yeah, like Yo, I came up with that by
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part of it. Part of it just reeks of, of a group of individuals that doesn't know what it's like to do field work,
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and aren't going to be involved at all.
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Doing said field work. Exactly. Because like, today was the training for all this stuff. So the 40 members are not getting trained today weren't trained today. And we in the email, it was just told, oh, they'll most of the stuff you're going to learn on the job anyway. So they'll just get caught up then.
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I'm going
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so who who's keeping like what
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Yeah,
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that's training training was said to include things like firearms training and wilderness survival skills and orienteering because oh by the way people expect expected to navigate in
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Mark Twain National Forest,
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an unmarked roads you're just you're you're cutting trail is what you're doing. Don't cross country with a total map and aerial photos. Oh, yeah. If I invite you guys are clearly the you know the rains or something or Army Rangers, how many people do you think that are in accounting?
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It DND fisheries
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any of these departments can actually successfully go through like an orienteering course.
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Yeah, because it's one thing. If you've been camping, and you are like a camping enthusiast, yeah, or like, you like hiking I'll give you that a lot of people do that on the weekend. Okay, and I would be willing to bet that a large number of people that work at the Missouri Department of Conservation, have those hobbies, they enjoy fishing. They enjoy a bit of hunting, right? They probably enjoy camping. Some of them might even do something like adventure camping where they actually hike off into the bush and camp there. But orienteering is such is such a specific skill set that you don't just know how to do that, right? Yeah. If you told me training include things like how to set up a tent, yeah, okay. You can figure that out. Or you can do that. Reading a compass, reading a map, with just a compass, even if it is a GPS thing, like as so no little spot where you been and where you're going to go with Oh my that's so
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hard. topo map, which, let's be honest, some people don't even know how to read those who knows what a total map is? Who? Nobody looks at those except. So that is those kind of skills where I start going, Okay. Are they giving me like, okay, who's got the first aid kit? Who also it's eight o'clock at night and the you're missing two people who is trained in in a right time search and rescue. Yeah. Who I don't
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even know.
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Does Missouri have search and rescue people? We do.
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We do. And
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those are like local fire departments.
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Yeah, that's what it is. We local fire departments and conservation agents
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are gonna be like field agents that are already out doing that. So those people already know how to do that. Yeah, but still, but like you said topo maps are very that's a that's another skill. Yeah. So I'm not familiar with cuz it doesn't come up right. Like no Who would know who would have any reason to do them? I told my boss I said, If I get stuck on a team,
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I will be telling all of the team members, if you get lost light a tree on fire, and we'll come get you, right like don't sit down and just kind of like a flashlight, light anything and everything you can on fire. And to make it easier for everybody, you know, so yeah,
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I mean, come on. You got a flare guns aren't that expensive? No one guys give him some flare guns.
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Or guns, please.
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Yeah, so
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there's enough leaf litter in Missouri too. You can you can get a brush fire going pretty good. Maybe not like anything on fire but you could pile sticks and leaves and get some smoke rolling pretty
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funny. Find the biggest dead tree and light on fire. Don't sit out there in the middle of the woods. past midnight waiting for some people find you Please are all questions that I have. And unfortunately, the answer is generally like, oh, we're just gonna learn as you go. And you know, I was just like, putting
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it out
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there like a forum or something or like a, like an inbox. You can voice some of these characters. Like, can we always have people calling in and we get some callers? Technically listening?
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Oh, no, Aaron,
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I don't think this plan does not sound well thought out enough to include a forum just sounds like someone got hired. And they're like, I have a great idea.
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And they're like, Oh, that's cool. And then this guy's gonna bounce. Like once this thing starts and like, try to move at some government job is like, Oh, I worked for the misery part and conservation. I can plan and didn't think
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anything. Through,
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because that's what happens with a lot of government agencies have like, Hey, I got this really cool plan like, Oh, that's a really cool plan and then they leave and then then people afterwards are like, Oh, this plans not that good. And then they're stuck dealing with it until they come in.
51:16
Exactly, man. So there's a lot going on. And it's kind of like, you know, just just go ahead and, and spin your wheels. Go ahead and spin them. Because,
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again, pick what, I'm sure there are certain recourses that they could do to come down to, you know, be angry about something, but
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no, it's just not. It's not it's not. That's not cool. Because what's gonna end up happening and someone's gonna get hurt. Oh, yeah.
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Or attacked or
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gathered by either animal or Citizen
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that that,
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you know, I wasn't gonna I wasn't gonna, you know, discriminate and any kind of citizen, there's lots of people out there that are like this is my land, you know, like they're not happy that the department's making a push through the woods and yeah, it could be altercation oh you have a feeling all by all the other thing they said they were talking about safety and safety is our number one priority and that's mobile mobile off and they're like, you know, and we don't expect you know, we're going to increase enforcement patrols in the area. And if you do come across somebody, you know, we offered that de escalating confrontation coerce a couple months ago, so everybody should be well versed in that.
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Oh, I was like, I was
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like, sure, because angry redneck rednecks and meth heads responded really well to logic and reason.
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No,
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that's that test that I can I can if I need to testify in a
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Did you know that method
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don't really like people saying, Hey, I'm here to talk to you or
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Yeah, but don't ask de escalate.
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Right? Yeah. Just
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can be like, did you know that method? don't really like people saying, Hey, I'm here to talk to you or Yeah, don't de escalate.
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Right? Yeah. Just doing those kind of things where you're like, yeah, cuz you You not only are emboldened by you're either a whatever, you know, illicit substances happened to be in your person or growing nearby, right? That just the isolation factor of like, yeah, being alone in a would really sort of emboldens the other person. Yes. In the confrontation. So no matter what, right That person is going to be on the front foot. Yes, because they are going to feel safe. They are going to feel protected because they're going to go. Yo, I'm in the middle of the Mark Twain National Forest Now, as far as National Forest go for anybody out there who doesn't know or not familiar with the Mark Twain national forests in Missouri, not necessarily like an enormous, contiguous forest. We're not talking like Canadian boreal forests here, where it is segmented most heavily in the southern South West and central arts, but it does have branches that extend up throughout the state, right maybe, say forest work or anywhere there's a large structure for things called the same thing. Or give me an sake, but it is excessively remote. Yeah, right. Like it's ridiculous like you know, you're always joke around like, Oh, yeah, you know, it's you know, there's nothing there but generally in Missouri, if you drive for a few minutes, there's something Yeah, right. Not to be offensive but it's not like North Dakota. Where we just are I was listeners. I once drove through North Dakota, and I'm not like it's just nothing. It's just prairie. And then like, every hour there's like that house over there. That and then it's not quite that empty but it's it is very remote once you get down in there, you're you're done. There's no nothing. Yeah, so it's it's the the remotest areas in the state that we're talking about here. And it's yet
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it's disconnected but also the the topography of the area just makes it very inaccessible. That's true, especially in the south south. The southern part of Yes, it makes it a very rugged
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Yes, right again, listeners and if there's any listeners in like Colorado, they're gonna be like, haha, no, it's okay. It's not that rugged try get it it is very there's a lot of vertical terrain. They're not like rocky mountain terrain, but like it isn't very list.
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Yeah, at our classifiers on here. Yeah, but yeah, I mean it is for this area it's quite rugged
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for in comparison with the rest of the state which is relatively minor. Those areas are the remote, the rugged, the in the middle of nowhere, like desolate. right there's nothing out there. So it's a very like once you get out there it's like oh
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yeah, so between falling off a cliff, falling down into a ravine being mauled by a bear or a feral hog, one of those nights with
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venomous venomous snakes. Sorry, excuse me.
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ecologist listeners I know.
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The altercation with an emboldened
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person emboldened male deer are messing around either. Now. Yeah. Yeah. So it'll be all cats small but very mighty. Sure. And the mountain lions that don't exist, right until they're random talking to you.
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Now, I know that I have heard there are random elk just found beers secluded more into the eastern part of the state. But yeah, if you're over in that area, sure another happy. Also that's a surprise. That's not something here expecting to discover in the rural Missouri is like, oh, there's an elk here.
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That hasn't been elk in Missouri for several hundred years.
57:56
For a hot minute. Yeah. Yeah. And the other thing is Like you're supposed to you, if in your in you in the listener spare time, you can go online and Google feral hog feces and tell me how reliably you'll be able to differentiate that between anything else that gets in
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there. Now, I have not googled this but as you have been researching this they are generally ungulates, right? So it's gonna look it's gonna be pelleted direct. So it's gonna be small pelleted looks not dissimilar to Dear Dear, right? of which there are 20 bazillion. Yeah, so if it's, it eats grass and, you know, fallen to try this. It's gonna be pelleted PCs, small piles of very small looking pellets. Just around and there. Again, like I said earlier, there's so much leaf litter in these forests. Just like it The ground is literally covered in fallen leaves, because of all that broadleaf deciduous trees. So you can't I mean, you can barely see anything on the forest floor.
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So between the number of high incidence of false positives, yeah. And then and then just the straight up missing just non any signs because who can tell? I'm you know,
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we do know that we can eliminate some so Jerry's just kind of out of hand because they're not accessible. Right. So most animals will follow the path of least resistance. However, that means that all the animals will be following the same
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path.
59:48
Yeah. But all the deer in the hogs are going to be in like the same areas. You know, I mean, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
1:00:12
So that's that's what we're dealing with. That's a lot of fun stuff. Unfortunately. Fortunately, we'll see what happens. Stay tuned.
1:00:20
Yeah. For the ongoing continuing saga. Everyone's favorite. Favorite continuous episodic
1:00:32
Oh,
1:00:34
like an old timey cereal, right he's on the radio next week, guys we got Oh my goodness.
1:00:49
I'm so well yeah
1:00:54
segue time to help you and your adventure Have you bought your carry items Have all bought one and although we go when So, plan is, I think we should plan for next recording. To to have everything together. Aaron How are you doing? Be honest with you. I completely forgot until you mentioned it.
1:01:20
Someone's gonna have to send me a list because I completely forgot what we were doing. Okay,
1:01:26
I nice. I have been kind of dealing with with stuff at work that come home and like oh yeah, I have an apartment. I forgot. So yeah, I can pull I told you to tell you.
1:01:39
You're in talking about what time period peanut butter
1:01:45
explain. I'm not familiar with this particular germ. x play in. Hold on I'm keep talking. Okay, anyway, Aaron sarens hip terminology, but after that or from four year olds We're quick overview. The challenge was to buy five things to carry on your person for at least a week, right? To see who can come up with the best stuff, right? You have to spend less than $25 on all of these things. And I believe the categories there has to be at least one kutty thing. One writing thing, some sort of light. And then the other two can be from any miscellaneous category that you want. Okay, you say you think you need in your daily life text to me, just think I will. I will. But that's that because I forgot the other things on the list. But that's the that's the goal. Right? So I have been shopping and I have many things full of excitement and wonder, to share next time. Oh yeah, it's fantastic. I'm excited. Yeah, the other two are just like, what kind of stuff? Would you do you think you need to have on you do today? Like you do stuff? Whatever that is, how can I make you better?
1:03:23
Because that's sort of the goal of these things. Right? The all the stuff that I was reading about because I like I watch like, Adam Savage is one.
1:03:28
He's talking about, like, all this stuff that he has, and like, why he has it like, Oh, yeah, I use this tool, like literally every five seconds. And I need it all the time. And it's just right here and I'm to go looking for things or like this stuff. So that's what we came up with. Because a lot of those stuff and those are like keys like yeah, I have those already. That's Yeah, go for it. Yeah. Okay, we're going to talk about what we got.
1:03:54
And then the follow up will be weather not too good. And I think probably questions like which one of the things would you choose to Upgrade if you were going to or which were there any things you were like, no, this was a complete waste of my time and I didn't like it at all and yeah, so there's there's that there's that conversation as far as the items, what they contributed what you liked and didn't like. Yeah. And then there's the that the kind of broader discussion as far as like functional versus aesthetics and how you decide in things that you surround yourself with, you know, if you just do pure, pure, purely functional kit, what does that look? And how would that change if you went more for an aesthetic look, or grouping of things so
1:04:46
I mean, yeah.
1:04:48
Okay. Did you find out what the term peanut butter man tell us
1:04:53
to so Pete to peanut butter it's used and some some cases to me like to spread yourself. Then too thin. You say, you know don't peanut butter if you don't, don't get spread too thin. And so to peanut to have peanut butter means you have like, You failed in doing that. So you failed.
1:05:14
So what if? What if I'm a peanut butter and I was like jelly instead? I'm chunky and dumb parts.
1:05:22
Wait, boy.
1:05:24
I just like what? A jam. Yeah, perhaps. Jelly marmalade? No, this is very clearly no. Jelly is one with no fruit. No fruit.
1:05:38
Right What if I let I'm much less clear on the jam marmalade difference between jam? Yeah, I honestly I just know like orange marmalade did it just has like the orange rain in it still and it really bothers me.
1:05:52
I don't know. I know those have more fruit in them. But I don't. I also know marmalade from Paddington Bear. Basically Yeah.
1:06:04
Reason anybody knows what marmalade is it
1:06:09
also i'm wondering who doesn't put enough peanut butter on things because all the people that I know that actually eat peanut butter it's like
1:06:17
all the peanut butter a raw
1:06:21
crunchy peanut butter and you have to put more layers on instead of just bread and them. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No butter. Yeah, yeah.
1:06:36
True, but I do like I do like the crunchy because I like crunchy things but I because it doesn't spread very easily. I often get normal like the creamy peanut butter also because it's just more universally useful.
1:06:49
In all things you can be like, yeah, I need to put on my chocolate muffin right now. Peanut butter. You don't need to mix into pancakes right now.
1:06:57
Peanut Butter You ready? chunky peanut butter and things. That's fair. not satisfying, too hard. Plus, the dog Chuck loves that we have to give him this medicine with peanut butter. So the chunky peanut butter doesn't work for that either. Sure, it'd be silly to buy the donkey's own peanut butter. That's just excessive, let's be real.
1:07:24
Although
1:07:25
what people do
1:07:27
is true, or if he ate more, we probably would do that. But it's only like for medicine. So it's not just just
1:07:33
Problem solved.
1:07:35
He would appreciate that plan. I think it's necessarily practical, but he wouldn't pay that and tell you that right now. Chuck, I'm on your side. Yeah, he thinks you.
1:07:55
So yeah, next time, we will have all that in place.
1:08:00
Right or in that, and we will, we will attack. Nice. Right And I'll tell you the story of where all of my things came from. I know I'm good. I'm
1:08:11
really ready for this.
1:08:13
Meteor. It's gonna be good times. So, alright. Yeah, he Ready? Okay, I'm ready with with stuff. Okay, I do I will admit that the last thing that I was going to get at a really hard time figuring out like what on earth it needs to be so I was like, I don't really, you don't really know. I don't really like this is not something that I do
1:08:40
normally. Like, normally I'm a keys wallet phone type of dude.
1:08:44
Yeah, it's all dollar and that's all I take anywhere I go, that's it. Nothing else. Again, I can't deal with a lot of that stuff. is really hard to do this because like
1:08:57
what do I need?
1:09:02
I've survived this long with literally nothing. So what Yeah.
1:09:08
Partially terrified that I'm going to be very frustrated with like, what? stuff
1:09:15
that is an outcome
1:09:16
as well. It's unlikely What
1:09:21
does a lot don't ever see from the show except for the show today? Well, as they say, We'll talk about it later. But yeah. Excited. Indeed. Nice. Cam. Wow. Did you guys
1:09:42
before we get off here Did you listen to the dude listen to the action castle episode.
1:09:47
I did. Yeah. Movies.
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Coming up, so next week we have returned to action castle. Then we have tomorrow. He dances
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It was a see.
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Yes. And then once we once were Wiseman, and then one that's not edited or out yet is there's no chromium though. Yes.
1:10:18
Excellent. Very good. I've been I've been looking at other text based card games as well. Okay, scouting. So we'll have more so we can play those we can play the other ones you have and then I've been looking into if others exist, so, okay, more to come on that but I'm not sure so because the ones I found that they're either like, way long, or like, extra short, like, okay, like super helpful. Like it's one of it was like, three hours and the other was like 15 minutes, like Kind of an extreme well yeah
1:11:07
and that's a you know if we need to stretch it over like two episodes we could do that. But my my track
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list
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Well, guys have a good week.
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Till next time
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love you guys