spoon geometry

Allergies are abundant. Deal with it. Aaron is winning and doing laundry. Brandon has a lot to share about a commercial he saw. PLUS…we have opinions about spoons. Shocker. We know.

• Allergies!!

• Emergency muting

• Aaron is doing copious amounts of laundry 

• Won their first game of the season

• Aaron pulled a hamstring

• Portfolio based 

• Collin’s drop-in story

• Lots of escaped convicts apparently

• A long diatribe pet ownership

• Commercial corner!

• Spoon geometry

• Things we’re particular about….

•  High school reading list challenge 

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SPEAKERS

Collin, Aaron

00:05

Welcome to Oh, brother, podcast three brothers, trying to figure it all out with your hosts, Brandon, Colin and Aaron. On this week's show, spoon geometry. Aloha.

Aaron  00:22

Hawaii you're doing it.

00:28

I can see I'm trying to get I'm trying to get this going. right are you you said that's gonna be a thing. So we're going with it. I love it.

Collin  00:43

We clean the house so much this weekend. Get my allergies you're like Hello. I haven't seen you in a long time. So yeah. Oh, it's so exciting. trifon nice, relaxing weekend with nose running.

01:07

Yeah, still okay. Yeah, no, I I still I'm I have been dealing with allergies effectively all of my life. And I still don't fully understand when they're going to completely knock me over and not allow me to function. It. It's still a mystery to me.

01:26

It is quite annoying. There might be some emergency meeting for us billing later. So just what are the Reno's I'm sorry. Aaron, what are you in?

Aaron  01:37

Well, right now I'm doing copious amounts of laundry. That I've kind of neglected. Oh, yeah.

Collin  01:46

Mine's in the dryer. I was like, oh, ants, right. Oh,

01:49

yes. need that.

Aaron  01:51

Last week was pretty eventful. When I first game of the season. And hey, yes. So we won. And then that was pretty fun. It's pretty, pretty spontaneous. And then this weekend, like we didn't really my school was doing a thing where they would they got a chance to go to like the Oklahoma State game. It was Oklahoma State and Missouri State. It was like, oh, that'd be really fun. Oh, I don't want to deal with students at a football game. So I'm going to pass and so we kind of rolled it around the idea of like, Oh, well, we can go to a you can go to another sort of game and realize, Oh, we haven't seen you know, and not going a while. Like let's go to let's go to a Royals game. And Kansas City. Well, it turns out and Uncle were gone for the holiday. And so we just do our we just settled on going to Tulsa drillers game for the night. And then that transformed into us planning a road trip to Manhattan, Kansas, came the next coming weeks to go to a K State football game. So I didn't really do yes. Just want to watch the big 12 upload in real time. That's your plan. And then that was Saturday, Sunday, kind of late laser tag all around and then today I had to go down from practice to watch film and then other ik coach, can you be scout team? quarterback real quick? Sure. No problem. Like one touchdown, four interceptions and a pull the hamstring later I have seen like crazy because I I turned on the editor. I know I put it into fourth gear. And I just you know, sped off and my body's like, what are you doing? You have printed sprinted in forever. And then boom. Here I am rehabbing it very gingerly right now. Um, while I am folding laundry. Some friends some friends from Oakland came up so we had dinner with them. And I will move Yeah, if I'm slowly on the floor crawling trying to fold laundry at the same time so I might pause myself then. Pain here later.

Collin  04:21

Okay,

Aaron  04:22

you sound very good for crawling around the floor. It's good this week. I only tell you I scooched like a little bit at a time so I'm not doing like a full on like you know RV crawler or anything but that said here's a laundry. I'm hearing a little bit I'm gonna finish up some lesson plan stuff for this week. The eight Shelby myself are going to go take our one of the other certification tests called the opti which is the big test where it's like classrooms development How do you handle certain situations? Like kind of more of a like? Yeah, the teaching part. And so we're gonna go to that it's a little rushed, because they're like, Oh, hey, by the way, on the 12th, we're going to hold it, we have a whole new system. So go ahead and go ahead and take it because I went to a portfolio system lovely. Which is, which is gross. And so that we're like, yeah, let's just go ahead and get this out of the way and, and take it so I got a half day from school. I'm gonna go and take that in the morning. So hopefully I pass it so I don't have to deal with it later. Is my point. Yeah,

Collin  05:42

that's the most annoying. The most annoying part about that stuff is they do that all the time. They like they change how they want it to be done. And so it's impossible. Like to keep with it, you know what I mean? So like, when I did mine, it was not like it, it was a portfolio and then they changed it to this other thing that was like, just, it was so hard. It was like brutal. And like, it was tear, it was so impossible. And then like, the year after I did it, they like change it back. But like I'm just kidding, we're just gonna come back it was like, guys

Aaron  06:23

made it harder for people to be teachers with going through this whole portfolio thing and so that's why like, I have time for my other certifications since I'm fully certified now. But I don't want to go through like a manageable portfolio like regularly and do like check ins. So yeah, you know what, let's just go ahead and get this underway now. So we have our first ever first home game this Friday against the team we should knock on wood beat they're not very good. So this should be cakewalk. My My plan is to, you know, be home by halftime because hopefully we can run rolling. Once you can do an eight man so that's, that's my plan. Because Wow, it's very Yeah, that's gonna one's everyone's expectations. Like, it was tweet like run rule them. I'm like, that's what I want to do. Like, sorry, Nick Saban, have you like we're just gonna score 70 It's fine. Like if we if we get 45 points. Like difference, the game just ends. So that's what I'm holding on. Because I don't want to sit there and people eating ground, like we did in the last game that we should have easily bead. Is there like, oh, let's go back into for a little bit for the first half. And then it was just like, Oh, this is how we play football. I'm like, Yes. Thank you. character building. is the first game they forgot. It's okay. But it has been my week. And the week coming up in a nutshell. So very, very exciting.

08:11

Not bad. Colin, other than getting caught napping, what have you been?

Collin  08:21

my lovely wife? No, I mean, I, this week has been this past week was just a lot, a lot A lot. I had some nice books, drop ins, which is always nice. Except whenever you get too many, like in the morning or afternoon and then just start stretching way into the night. And so there were some times where it's like, first drop in that thick last drop in is that nine or 930? You're like, No, no, this is a little long, but we got through it. The only

08:59

time that it got a little dicey was I was like, oh, man, I was like 11 o'clock at night. And I got a next door notification because you guys have next door in your area.

Collin  09:16

I wouldn't know if I did. I don't it's the social media app that's based on on hyper local boundary. So like, we are part of the Liberty Park next door neighborhood. I cannot join a neighborhood that's a street over because that's a common difference. And I don't really live geo fence neighborhood social networking thing where they ended up we have that here stories and you can post things and ask for help and all sorts of things. And anyway, it's it's kind of nice. It can be a little much at times as you could imagine. Yeah. There's a guy out there who's very good about posting all like news bulletins. And if something I had 11 o'clock at night, and it was like, home burglary on such a street, I was like, that's not me. I'm going to sleep. And I woke up the next morning, went to this drop in, which is in a very, very, very nice part of town. And I go through the rigmarole. And then I start getting this frantic, this phone call from the homeowner who I can't pick up because I was busy with the dog. So Megan picked up and apparently this lady was freaking out, because this home burglary was on her Street. And I

10:44

Ah, but I had just walked into a house on a street of the home algorri they didn't give out the address. They just said that he was on the loose and they were looking for him. And it was on this street and there's only like, six houses on the street. And so I just like walked into this home and the pitch black in the morning at 6am left out completely unaware that there was a burglar on the loose on this

Aaron  11:12

gallon.

Collin  11:14

And so I am after she told me that I went ahead and did a perimeter walk just to make sure all the windows and stuff were there and everything looked fine. And you could actually tell us what was what was crazy was when I came in that morning, the dogs had been secured in the laundry area with a baby gate. And these are three little Shih tzus they're not very far having these properties. They're not very big dog. They have completely bowled over through the baby gate, but she had said that that had happened to timer too. But thinking back to this, the cops were going door to door banging as a saw they were like crap. Yeah, the dogs were totally freaking out, which is why they had pushed through this gate and had caused some minor damage to everything. And it was kind of creepy because on the back patio of this house, they have lots of place for entertaining so they have lots of seating and cushions and cook areas that are covered with tarps and all of that was like ripped off and tore open because the cops are trying to see is this guy hiding underneath this you know underneath the seat under and that's kind of creepy to see. But I you know I walked the perimeter and looked in between like the house and the hedges that they have there. And I saw something on this house that I have never seen on any other house. It should just tell you how big it is you know whenever you're walking next to like I don't know like a big building and you know it's got space underground and they have like the graded hovering on the sidewalk that sits right next to the building and if you look down Oh yeah, there's like a little ladder that goes down and then there's a door or windows down there. This Yeah, this house had two of those on either side. The cops looked down there maybe that would be good. I did I did. Cuz I was like hey, if he's down there I have the advantage because I can just put my foot on the hatch and he's not getting out and you know and then if he decides he's gonna try and shoot me through this really fine metal great Okay, fine, buddy. You know you get there ricochet so I was pretty confident stepping over and looking into these with my with my flashlight. But yeah, I was just like, oh man this there's a lot of hidey holes around this That's crazy. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that was that was pretty I never had never had something like that happen before man. I just realized that the number of times on this podcast where I talked to you about like an escaped convict or somebody on the run like it's very high. So this is at least a fourth time really concerned about Yeah, listeners help us with the tally here but I think we're at least for right do we count murder next door that was a subheading and one of them that will count forgotten about how old was so that's still really yeah, I'm gonna count that one so we're I think we're sitting solid at four here this is a hazards of petsitting brought to you by Collin fight.

Aaron  14:27

If you want like an interesting like if you're just bored and you can't go to sleep, find like the Facebook group of like a really small town and just see like what all is going on. I promise you it'll be like the most interesting read of like your week. I feel like interesting is the wrong word. It just random drama on Facebook. And it's like these people live like right next to each other. That's

Collin  14:57

so normal Facebook God Yeah,

Aaron  15:00

Facebook like watch group or you know whatever town and then just like people just complaining or posting things on there the like you know the random things or they have like the occasional like oh hey someone was you know shot in this you know area please be on the lookout and people like oh sending you know, sending positive vibes and you're like whoa what kind of town is this? So if you want a good read or good chuckle find those

15:27

paths very odd you could yeah

15:40

so i i saw that i haven't followed up to see if they if they caught the guy or not. That would probably be a good good good info to know.

Collin  15:53

Oh man the other thing that happened this week we're gonna have to get you like a sweet Crocodile Dundee knife to like a wander around with like

16:03

a I don't know when they fun. I mean, just how how weird would that be like the guy comes over with his shirt shirt is just white black letters that they pets that are on it. And I've got the hat and a buoy knife strapped my side.

Aaron  16:16

Yeah, perfect. Yeah. And and the crocodile necklace?

Collin  16:21

Yes, obviously. Obviously. That'd be fantastic. psych. Yeah. strapped to your leg. There's like,

16:31

obviously, yeah. Obviously this needs to happen. Yes. Now, the other only other thing that happened. But we obviously find, obviously, but we tend to get a lot of stray dogs by our house. Like we tend to be a very

Collin  16:51

current year want to sit them if they just come over? Yes. Yes, they do. And we we caught this Husky beautiful Husky. His name is Katie's. Yeah. Which is interesting. But they had the number the tag on it to call as we called it, but it was the number of the company that they registered his ID, his pet tag thing, whatever. Yeah. And we were like, great. We have this dog. We'd like to use here, blah, blah. We'd like to get its owner. And they're like, okay, we can't tell you the owner's name. But we'll call the owner. And we're like, oh, a, and then like, just that's very weird. Let me get back on the phone. It's like, well, we called twice. And they're not answering. And we were like, okay,

17:53

we have this dog. We're on the side of the street. And they're like, Well, I can tell you that this is there that I can tell you who there that is. And I was like, Fine, whatever. So we call the vet. And we're like, hey, we've got this dog. And he's like, Oh, yeah, this is the person's name. This is where they live. This is their phone number.

18:15

This seems a weird, why would you like First of all, why would you play? Why would you put a number on your pet tags that you cannot be reached? Like?

18:28

Yeah, right. They didn't, they didn't put the number for themselves. They only had the number for the company where they were registered app, which I

Collin  18:37

thought very circuitous route is

18:39

very, very ridiculous. They're the burglars, and they don't want you to know where they are located. You know,

Collin  18:47

I guess that did, I guess that did where they're like, Oh, I don't know. about like, I don't want my information out there. Well, don't lose your dog. Boom, problem solved. Right, God um,

19:01

but on the other hand, like, you only have a few moments to have somebody's attention. And if they're trying to, I don't know, just really complicate things. And then to have that, just be like, Oh, yeah, this is the person 30 we call, we get a hold of the lady and she's like, Oh, I'm, I'm on my way to Colombia right now. I yeah, no, I can't turn around. And we were like, Okay, well, we have your dogs, our

19:31

hourly rates. Let me know when you're going to come back and get him and we'll hook you up with a package and kablam

19:40

great. That's wonderful. Who's here in town where you can go, we can call and then she was like, Well, I don't know. What's your mate are Megan was on the phone. She's like, where do you live and we'll just take the dog back there. She goes. Well, you don't laugh the gate right. You know, he'll just he'll just get out of it. They just stopped talking. And we were like, Okay, well, we have your dog. Come on. And she's like, Well, my husband or my boyfriend works night. And I don't really want to call him and wake him up. And we're like, that's really nice of you. We have your dog and we cannot keep it go. You need to call him to come in, pick him up. We will be at such and such an intersection. And we you know, we'll see you in like 10 minutes, because we couldn't we figured he didn't. They didn't live that our way. Like this dog looked like it was still like, I'm outside the fence. Wow. Like, yeah, not like click? Yeah. Oh, gosh, exactly. I've been tracking for many days. It wasn't like a hardened criminal or whatever.

Collin  20:47

He was just like,

20:47

oh, my goodness, golly. We have. We stand there in this car. This car pull. It's no muffler. It is it is beat to Timbuktu is back again. And really like, wow, I'm surprised that that thing is running. The guy

Collin  21:11

stops the car on the side of the street. Like throws the door open, cigarette in hand, and this billow of smoke just comes pouring out of his car like a wizards entrance because he stands up in turns to us. And he has this beard that goes all the way down to his navel. And he's got this like, really like crazy hair on top of his head. And he starts walking over to us saying does he have a mullet? Please? No. We're not completed this whole. No, it's like still watching too much 80s wrestling Humala, it's everywhere. It's just infected.

21:55

lit cigarette still in hand stomping over to us. It looks at us looks at the dog looks at my shirt. My shirt says petsitter on it because I'm a pet sitter. And he busts out laughing and he's like, did you change for this? And I said, No, I'm always ready. He was like, nice. Okay, cool. Well, thanks for getting the dog really appreciate it really like yeah, of course, like, we want to look, I bought 90 v shirts, Hey, I got to wear this. This is the most expensive piece of clothing that I wear I'm going to. And that's actually not far from the truth. Now, think about

Collin  22:35

it. Anyway.

22:37

He gets back in and we drag weight. And Mike and I are just like, What just happened? Like, what did we just witnessed? It was just a whole scene. And then the next day, guess what we see a notification of a dog that got lost and his name was Hades. And he

Collin  22:55

got out again, if it was like, tell me to latch the gate just right. Yeah. Um, come on.

23:02

I know, that was like, you gotta come on. Like, you can't get dad to patent his little

Collin  23:09

wire lock thing. Right? post that online, get people to people to make that it's like, slap it in there. Yes, no, I know, right? But guys, look, here's how you do it. Step by step guide, a patented piece of wire turns into a lock,

23:39

boom, got it. You know, it's amazing to me. Simple, something like that would really change a lot. Or pet owners.

Collin  23:53

Because we had this other client who they were traveling, and I was doing dropins at their house, and the dogs were in the backyard all time, which I don't know, from a liability standard. It makes me uncomfortable. Take that on, because they're outside and they're in a fenced yard, which is fine, except one of the dogs apparently would get out all the time, like you would put her in and she would jump out immediately. And when I would talk to I talked to the owner about this. I said, Well, here are about five things that you can do to prevent this. Like, I know we need to be taking this a balanced approach. And I'm not saying we need to just shock the dog until it can't move anymore. But some sort of fence because this is dangerous for the dog and dangerous for people around and dangerous. Like there's a lot of things going on here. So have you thought about that? Or have you thought about a mechanism to line the top of your fence to prevent the dog from going you got these rollers you can get this sticky deterrents to prevent the dog you can get a different chain blah, blah. And the lady was just like Yeah, no, I, I, you know, she always comes back. Well, because he gets hit by a truck right like that. Or while I'm caring for the dog, the dog gets out these people are in there 15 hours away and the dog doesn't come back the dog doesn't come back doesn't come back doesn't go back day after day the dog doesn't come back when three days four days because the pound they've got the dog. They will not release the dog to me because the dog looks like a pitbull and they need to talk to the owner about having their Pitbull roaming the streets.

25:40

It was like, Oh, yeah, yeah, like, okay, like, first off. This is one of the sweetest animals on the face of the earth. I like she's, she has the face of she's a Staffordshire Terrier is what she is. But yeah, but she looks like a pitbull. And, but because she looks like a pitbull people call and complain about this wild animal on the loose. And I was like, yeah, either the dog gets hit by a dog, or they refuse to give you back your dog. Because they claim it's a pitbull, and then they have to euthanize it. Because it's Yeah, right. Like, what? I don't like come on people. This is something that this is real this this actually happened. And you just, you know, it doesn't people for whatever reason, don't feel like it's that big of a deal.

Collin  26:30

That's crazy. Like, didn't go through all this mess of having a dog and like, Yeah, whatever. And, like, as far as, like, I don't understand that mindset. I'm just like, whatever. Like, you know, it's the living thing. What are you doing? Oh, no, it's very strange. Just the laissez faire attitude of like, Oh, well. Yeah, I totally AM. 100% with you of like, what, what's the what's the end goal here? Right? Like, I think that's what I'm thinking of, like, you're gonna have this dog for what another 10 years or more more like, because it's a young dog like, What? Where do you want this to end up? Are you just hoping that something will happen to this dog? So you don't have to worry about it? Like, I don't know. Like, there are people out there that are like that. And yeah, I feel like that's part of what's happening in that situation. No, because like, whatever. Like, just, I don't have to deal with anymore, okay. Like you could solve these problems, or just ignore them and, like, hope the problem goes away. I felt like that's kind of what's happening. Like, if I just don't look at it. There's no problem. Right? Yeah. And then you just don't have. Exactly. And it just, it's gonna go go away on its own. And so I don't know, it's just really sad. And I don't understand those people, though. Anyway, it's true, as well. A long diatribe about pet ownership. Sorry. Yes, that's right. Speaking of long diatribes, I have found another commercial that I watched this weekend that I was like, What? I don't understand you. And it was great. There was a there was two I think, but I only wrote down one because I forgot the other one. But have you seen this? Like, it's like a dishwasher thing? portal? I don't know what it is. But like, they're talking about, like, like one of the little dishwasher tabs, you know, be put in the dishwasher? And, like makes your dishes cleaner or something? I don't know, like 75% cleaner than competitors. Well, the rub here is that they're making some really like, sleazy innuendo about like we do it every night, right? Oh, no, they're talking about the dishes. But talking about the dishes, right? Yes. And I'm sitting here going? Who does? Who runs their dishwasher every day? What has happened in the day, and one of them is like these two old people. These two like older people like you. You go through enough dishes to run your dishwasher every single day. What are you doing? Yeah, you're like that the lie? Oh, no, that is crazy. Like we we don't run our real lives every couple days with the three of us. I guess I need to input Aaron How often do you wash dishes?

Aaron  29:53

Um, I do well, it kind of depends like we always try to have like Dinner at home every night. Especially like during the weekdays because of school and everything. So I would probably say we do good. None of this is about hot week. Okay.

Collin  30:12

This is once again not every night he is I'm getting at. Yes. Colin, even with the rug rats about how often how many dishes do you have?

30:22

Yeah, no, it's probably twice a week. Maybe? I do. I do a lot of I do a lot by hand. And there are times where it's like sometimes I load the dishwasher with the intent to run it and then I forget to run it. I end up doing a lot of them by hand anyway, because we need them because we actually like oh, no, we're out. I don't have any more cups. We actually have run out of those we have we so we up 10 years and on in our marriage coming up and we are going to two spoons.

Collin  30:57

Ours is also usually springs, like we just don't have enough experience. I don't know why

31:04

the original set that we had that was for like 12 or whatever is to to have this holster. And the problem is really like our silverware how I've got to go someplace to buy a replacement for this. And

Collin  31:22

Jamie can just go buy just spoons.

31:25

So So Bed Bath and Beyond where we are here. The other problem was, I don't know what our set is called. Because what I wanted to do we just wanted to log online because

31:35

who knows? Exactly. Our grandpa? Yeah. Well, that's okay, that's fair. But like, what normal person knows?

Aaron  31:47

Like, Oh, my gosh, I got these. I got these earlington Silver's. And that's not even a name me. Like what are you? Where did you want to be talking about? So yeah, so she was? Yes.

Collin  31:57

What normal human being just like knows the name and then they bought it like a random store. Right? Not like, yeah, that's probably like her like, you know, the, like, the fancy actual silver silverware, right, that they got my great aunt, whatever got me this is wedding president blah, blah, right? Not that one. But like, when you just use every day to eat cereal. So what I want to do is bed to Bed Bath and Beyond did at the store in springs where we register, you could go up and you could buy just forks, just knives, just different things for different sets that they have on display. At that time. You could walk into the store, see what's that you like, you could either buy the whole thing, or you could buy replacement pieces. And that's what I want. I just wanted a replacement spoon because I I mean, get used the most. I don't know what the name of this was. And that was 10 years ago.

32:56

And they probably don't have that one anymore. No. And I I'm very particular about the edge of the spoon. No, no, no.

Collin  33:09

Okay. Oh boy. Now here we go. Spoon geometry. Ladies and gentlemen, here we go. Here it comes.

Aaron  33:18

Because if I feel your pain is too deep,

Collin  33:24

right, it's hard to get stuff out of it as you're using it as a spoon, but the edges can be too sharp, sometimes that cut the edges of your lips. If they're too rounded or shallow, it isn't old enough. And, and then like the angle of the spoon in relationship to the handle. And you can't always bend it back into place because some are thicker than others. And I really liked the thought of the size of our students for what we use. Like they're perfect. I really, really liked them. And I liked the edge feel has a good, good good feel to it. And it feels like a spoon. Like it's not too deep. It's not like it the spoons that are like, like they're a tablespoon, right? We're like this huge scoop of a spoon versus these big flat platter things and there's, there's a happy medium. That's true. And I don't like them too rounded because then they they're hard to fit everything. So anyway, I'm very particular about these spoons, and I've really enjoyed them over the last 10 years. And I don't want to try and guess because then I don't want like then I'm worried about how the handle is going to look in relationship. Because I literally have every other single piece of silverware that we bought. I'm just missing 10 spoons pair. So to me that's really bizarre that like only this buildings have gone away. I can find that very strange.

34:48

I could squarely point to it was probably started five years ago, when our children throughout, right I'm gonna say that's probably true all the time and we would travel and we'd say You eat this yogurt, and a spoon. Here's a cereal and spoon here is a applesauce and a spoon. Like we started in. We started using spoons a lot more. And so I'm sure they're just scattered off scattered all over North Texas.

Collin  35:20

across the countryside is pretty much

35:23

where they are. And yeah, so yeah, I have to in a hand wash all the spoons. I can't pick those in the in the dishwasher because they won't. I need them every day like multiple times.

Collin  35:36

That they won't they won't come out fast enough. No, no. But that's

35:41

Yeah, we can. We can usually make it a couple. Three days. Before we need before before I need to run it. We're actually in the market for a new dishwasher. But that's the other half.

Collin  35:56

Fast fair. Yes. We have a whole episode about kitchen appliances and why they're boring. I think somewhere. So look out for that. capitalist in the kitchen. Aaron. Yes, capitalists in the kitchen. That's correct. There we go. Boom. I was just perusing that Bed Bath and Beyond flatware section. Aaron, I take it you also have extraordinarily strong opinions about spoons. So let's hear it. Let's hear it. Let's I want now now here's the interesting part. I want to do a compare Rino here. Like I want to know how you're just comparing two colons.

Aaron  36:38

So So pretty much kind of the same thing of you know if the spoons too big or too wide, or if it's just like too bold. Yeah, like soup spoons are just out. It is it is difficult to eat their pie. There are times where like, you don't want to set there's like the big spoons. And yeah, nobody uses the big spoons or anything and use them for like cooking things. That there's been there's been a time where like, all of the little spoons have been used. And they're like currently in the dishwasher. And I'm looking at like, well, I need to eat cereal, as like, but the only thing I have is this big spoon. I'll sit there and I'll be like, I don't need to go out of my way to you that because it's like, granted, our spoons are kind of like an extra big, fat. Oh, yes. So it's kind of like, Well, I mean, I don't wanna go in fat ham into it. But like, I mean, there's times where, like, if I can't fit the thing in my mouth, I'm not going to use it. So, yeah, like it's I can, I've definitely felt that where, like, we've been looking at spoons or like looking at like a civil war said, and you know, she'll be like, oh, what about this one? I'll be I know. There's our two bag. Like, Oh, no, those are two. You know, those are too broad. It's like, it's just spoons. I'm like, now you don't understand. You don't understand what I've been through. So yes, I concur with with brother Collin. Any aspect that spoons itself, like if I'm going to use one, like if it's too big and like, I don't need it. I'm just I'm just not gonna borrow it. But it is. It's really funny because the last several times that I've done dishes I haven't even touched the big spoons like, Damn,

Collin  38:40

you can just stay dirty. No one likes you.

Aaron  38:44

Yes, or just staying the true. But, but yes, I definitely have felt that with like, notton It's where to eat my breakfast with the spoon. It's a big I don't like it. I'll still eat it because it's really happy.

Collin  39:00

Yeah, interesting. See, I think the shape of the spoon is the most important. Right? I don't know. Like, I feel that it's the shape of the bowl. It's the most important part. Right? I don't like a spoon. It's to round. Like to symmetrically round. You mean? Like, like a soup spoon. Right? Because, like, a lot of them are very symmetrical around I like the ones that are slightly I don't know, they're narrower at the end. But you put in your mouth first. Guess the mouth end of the spoon on North. It's called away from the handle. You know, they kind of like taper so that they're slightly narrower that side. I think that's how ours are. I don't really know. I have to go look at one here in a minute. Like, but I know I do know that like Susan's mom has some spoons that are just like, right out. They're just awful. Like, I don't know, they're just terrible. Now that just like, these weird, they're like really symmetrically oversold. Right. So it's just like an oval. Yeah. Not like at all. I, you know, the classics one. I think it's been I think they've been they're slightly like egg shaped, I guess. It's kind of what I'm thinking about, right? Like the one end is slightly narrower than the other end. Now that goes 60. Like when they're really pointy. That's a little too much, but she has these ones that are like, they're just like ovals. And they're, I don't like them. No, it just like,

Aaron  40:35

tapered on one end so that Yeah, yes. Yeah. And I, I thought

Collin  40:40

I was like, super tapered. They're pretty okay. But like, just a little bit. Right. There are some ones that are like much more extreme. Right? I feel like the ones dad's old ones were much more pointy. Yeah, right. Yeah. I like those two.

40:57

I like But yeah, I found that. I don't like also the handles like square handles, I really not a fan of I like the handle be more rounded at the tip. And that's just not really in style these days. They all like beef, like a flat cut off at the end.

Collin  41:18

I like why don't we have two different sets that we just kind of have crammed together, right. So we have one that's like pretty round, and they're heavy. And the other one are like flat handles. And so it doesn't, I don't know, the handle doesn't really as long as the handle is relatively like not swoopy. Right? Cuz I was supposed to have a really distinct swoop right there at the neck. You know? Yeah. And that's, I don't like him to be too swoopy. A little straighter. I think I like the stranger ones. The hearing preference on handle? Yeah.

Aaron  41:56

I kind of like more round ones. I will I will kind of say that. Like, if I've watched like a TV show where they talk or they have like a depiction of, you know, Wild West. You know, people are eating food and they have like this big like, Oh, yeah, that's like eating something like well, well today. Well,

Collin  42:17

eating beans with the like the wood mixing spoon. Yeah, no, that's weird. I like that.

Aaron  42:21

Yeah. I will. Like we have like a wooden set. And though they're actually like really kind of cool. But like trying to keep them clean was an absolute nightmare. But yeah, I read I see things. I'm like, Oh, that's really cool. Or like, kinda like the big like, you know, older ones, like the handles just like massive, but like they're really kind of points. Yeah, like, Oh, this is kind of cool. But yeah, those big ones that like, Oh, no, I

Collin  42:45

don't I don't like the big like the big candles, like really broad and flat. But it's also thick. Right? Like, are like, how do you hold this? It's like, Caribbean, like a baseball bat. Like, on the inverse of that they have these ones. It's a very common style that I remember. saying no to when we picked out ours, where the handle is perfectly straight and like the size of a pencil. And it's like, why would you? Why would you do that? I can one of ours is pretty straight, but it's fatter. Like it's but like, perfectly round. Like it's like, no, it's not rounded straight. It's like flat and straight. Yeah.

43:30

These are like are perfectly round. Oh, that's terrible. Hoon in a straight line. That's like a mixing spoon. Yeah, I feel like it's like a cocktail spoon. Like, are you gonna muddle your drink with that? And all of them in the set look like that? Only the knife has a Latin one. But all the forks and other terrible like, What? How is that comfortable to hold here? Are you ever going to actually use this? Or does it just look pretty? In a picture?

Collin  43:54

Like, what does this mean? It looks pretty. That doesn't? Yeah, no? Yeah. I don't even like thinking about that. That's disconcerting. Right? I'm gonna come up porcha but this dainty little fork Exactly.

44:12

how it's gonna work. So I'm sorry, you were offended by the commercial. It sounds like it really was terrible. Yeah, see,

Collin  44:21

it brought up this whole spoon context I did not know existed. listeners, have you ever thought as much about your spoons? Or are you just like Yep, this spoons clean. I'm gonna eat my ice cream with that. My third favorite ice cream that is? Let me think that comes from those kinds of things that happen all the time. So what else in your life do you give either that much thought too, or no thought to at all? Like, I'm really curious about what kinds of things you like our, I guess I think the word is particular about but also measures, say like, what do you? What do you? What do you critique about the items that you use or, or are around? Hmm, that's a good I you know, this is one of those This is like an infinitely long list, but like the second you asked me, I'm like, I literally have never thought about this question before. But I do it all the time. I like to moan about this kind of stuff, like, incessantly. So like, start writing some of these down to, because yeah, it is a thing like, like, handles, I think, in general things with handles, right? Because like, it could be anything like a spoon like airs, like, like those wooden spoons, like, we have some of those for mixing. And you know, some of them are like, Oh, this handles really nice. And the other ones, like, this handle is very square and pointy, and I hate it. You know, so I think a lot of just handles in general things that you are, because you don't you're handling them. So like anything that has a handle that you're using, like a lot more money a lot like others, like screwdriver handles is another one, where there are some that are like, Ah, this is very nice. And there's other ones who like, this is a torture device, and I don't like it. And I'm just gonna give up. I'm never gonna tighten this bolt because this screw because I can't be bothered to hold it. So I think right off the bat things like handles, things like things that have candles like that, because it is a very tactile thing, you know. And it's a very, like, it just has to feel a certain way. I think tactile things kind of more so than other things. Maybe. I mean, that's probably wrong. I bet if we ask Susan right now, she would give you a list like 50 things that I moan about, like all the time.

47:03

The one that comes to my mind is what was tactile as well, as we're paying to shop for a new oven. And the one thing that I was like, like how does this door feel opening? How does it feel opening and closing this door to make a pleasing noise when I close? Yeah. Is it? Is it satisfying? Does it feel secure? Does it? Or is it like, you know, I feel like I have to wrench it down and slam it back up. That's fair. Because that's something I'm going to do literally 1000 times. And I was just like, Oh, I have a lot more. And that's one thing that they don't like, you can't go on wire cutter or any review site and have them say, this is what this is, you know, this is how this is the door feel of this oven.

Collin  47:54

Yeah, I feel like this is one of those questions where like, it's easier when you discover something that's like wrong, and you don't like it? Right? It's a little bit easier to be like I don't know, for me, it's harder to pinpoint. Like are these are the characteristics I like it's much easier to be like no, this is the thing I do not like at all I'd have to think about that a little bit. Aaron anything jump out at you.

48:22

pins. Oh, Pandora's box has been Oh, here we go writing utensils.

Aaron  48:28

Let's get well I so I'm looking over I'm looking over my stuff for tomorrow. And trying to kind of whittle it down. But certain pins just like I can never use one of them is like its brand or the style that the school buy is like, Oh, we bought you pins. I'm like, Oh great, but like when you pull off the couch makes that that sound? And it's like the like where you put your fingers that they're like the like really? You know describe it, like ingrained deep grounded. Okay, that are on it on like where like you put your fingers and like that's uncomfortable but just sound Yeah, like act now. Nope. Like I have I have a huge box of them. Or I have like little thing of them like separated on my desk. If students need a pen they can get that use it. But they're like, like, hey, coach. Yes, take that one. Like why that one just just get it get it out of here. Like I don't like but all people call this is the best no writing pen I've ever used and I don't care. Nobody I know. Like I'm I'm using one of those. What is this? Like the Bic? Yeah, you guys see pens? Like the little blue blue cap ones like

49:49

I also have a What is this? A uni ball. sago sino

Aaron  49:56

that was one of my favorites. That was acceptable. But yeah, that The one where I pull that pull the cap off. It's like nope. Can't can't won't. Yeah, no,

Collin  50:08

I don't I don't I'm, I'm not a fan of big pins. I can't put too slippy.

Aaron  50:13

Yeah, I like, like for grading if I'm just going, like, yeah, that's fine. But like I used to write, like, notes with these. And they were cheap and I would just like, you know, boom, boom, boom, oh, this one's dead, throw it away, boom, boom, boom, this was that throw it away. But now i'd be sophisticated with my teaching. I have this. This site opens and I look fancy. But yeah, I'm sure my list is longer, but I'm literally writing a pin. I'm looking at one like, I can't I can't. I can't I won't use it.

Collin  50:51

No, the long, repetitive mine. This was the Uniball vision. Right? That was the one. I use that one for effort. That's my go to.

51:04

But yes, I agree with pins. that's a that's a hard one. Also, like, highlighters and markers, right? Because I

Collin  51:16

not to bore the listeners with more teaching things, but I like to grade with a highlighter. Right? So I can I just either can highlight things, right? Like, Oh, you missed this part. Well, yeah. Or I can just put big check marks on the paper. If they get a good grade, boom. That's what I do. Yeah. So I like I like a green highlighter. for grading. I just gravitated towards that for some reason. I think one day, that was just the first thing I found it my desk. And so I use a green highlighter.

Aaron  51:56

And I'm like, Yeah,

Collin  51:59

I don't. I thought about it a little bit before because like the red you know, has a very negative connotation, right? pleco red pin is like so bad flashbacks like Mr. Himes, right? Like sophomore year English, like your paper just like read. Like, you write comments. Like, you should never go to college because this is trash, like, like, oh, like, Oh, yeah, that's actually a good comment from him. So like, Woody. So I thought about that, right? Like red. Harsh, austere, negative connotation. I only had black pin, I can only find the black pin. And that's not really it doesn't stand out from the paper. Right? That's not good. So I do have blue pins. Now. I use mostly blue. And I like a green highlighter. I just I just sort of gravitate towards that. Like, I like this. It stands out. It's like pops out of paper, you can see like a circle things or underline them or, you know, literally highlight them. And you can write with them, like the little skinny ones. You know, you can write things on the little notes on there. Yeah. So yeah, like a green highlighter. So what I did was I sent Collin a picture of this to torment him. But I bought some pen and highlighter sample packs from this website, where it's just like, Hey, here's a eight different pins. Boom, go, you can like pick the color you want. I was like, Hey, how about blue? Like, okay, here's like eight blue pins, pow. Just like one of a whole bunch of them. And it was great. It's very fantastic. There might be eight, maybe six. I don't remember. Those sample packs like that are so like, I don't know, I feel like they're kind of invaluable because that you do get exposure to so just the verb I get a variety a sample that you can, yeah, these you do side by side comparisons, you're not having to buy a case of 24 or 12 or whatever. That's true. I'm gonna use this until I get another one. Yeah, and so then like, especially with the highlighters because you know, like, Oh, this highlighter is good, but like I don't know what these are. So Dang, here's a whole bunch of highlighters. Just blast through it you know, some of them are like lighter shades than others see other shades of the highlighted differences. And the tip is very, can be very grumpy. Right some of them are like really good for really lightened like squeaky No, no, thank you. So yeah, a good writing writing utensil. definitely agree with Aaron there.

54:53

Good job.

Collin  55:00

Follow me. I know you have pin comments, Collin. So let's just go.

55:05

Yeah, I mean, their pin comments, but I was trying to think of other things too, because of of like, something that I, because it's tricky. It's like things that I, I'm passionate about making sure that I get like, the right thing for it, making sure that it works really well. And I kind of went through that with kind of out about that way with backpack. About

Collin  55:33

Oh, that's true. I've been looking at backpacks in to replace mine. And it's hard to like, yeah, like I apparently Hold on, but I have. It's hard because like, especially with online shopping, they don't ever show you good enough pictures of the pockets. Yeah, so like, most of the backpacks, like, here's one pocket. Like, I don't I need more than that. Okay, I'm not asking for crazy things. But I don't want like one giant pocket. I need a little bit more.

56:03

Yeah, guys, I've got this. I've got this Timbuktu backpack, and I've had it or seven years now. And I just I don't want to have to replace it. But it's got its things like, how not just how plush are the strap backpack strap, but how wide are they? How do they attach to the to the body? Because that's something that is, you know, that's going to be a fail point. It's going to fail down the line.

Collin  56:45

How big are the pocket? What variety of configurations can do in the update? Can I pull the laptop and everything that I need? Or do I have to pick and choose? And I don't know, I kind of went through this with Lillian because she needs a new backpack going into first grade with the hold more things. And all of a sudden it's like, great, like, what are my? How do I make sure I get to fit all of the constraints, while still making it usable for her because it's like, I can't just go out and buy a backpack because it's gonna be too huge for her. I can't just go out and do that. Because then you go out and try and buy Alaska bringing it up. It needs to be somewhat proportional to your body.

57:24

Yeah, right. If you just started that's a hard thing. Kid backpack. It's all like, look a bumblebee and a printer. Yeah. And I'm like, No, I it's supposed to be functional. But it can't be. So that was a that was a whole new minefield for me to walk through and wade through.

Collin  57:40

The other part for me. And I know this is true for YouTube as well is especially with a backpack, like, how big is it? and How big does it look when you put it on? Right? Because like, if it's like a, for some people, it's gonna be a normal size. But when I put it on my back, it's gonna look like goofy and small and ridiculous. I don't want that.

58:05

Exactly, exactly. And then one thing that I've, I've started to really appreciate is how does this backpack carry its load? Is it going to be is going to keep it? Because if you have backpacks when they're full, they stick 18 feet out. Oh, yeah, that's true. Does it just expand out away from my back? Or is it going to twice stopped using my North Face one? Yeah, it's

Collin  58:32

like, very wide away from you. Without the apps that is ridiculous. Yeah. So it's a it's like, Yeah, what's the depth of this when it's fully packed? Because that's going to be something that I'm going to really care about, too. But you're right, like, is this is this? Is this a baby backpack? Or is it just going to look like a baby backpack whenever I'm wearing that cannot be overstated as an important topic, because like, it needs to not look ridiculous. But again, they don't they don't have that much stuff to carry. But like, I also don't want to, you know, have a tiny back.

59:17

No, but a first grader would wear right like it or make it look like that. But they don't. They don't. They don't tell you about that and don't give you good measurement. And it's kind of hard to know what one one,

Collin  59:34

but I don't remember the brand name. I can't shout them out because I don't recall at the moment, but they had pictures on their thing of people wearing them. And it had the like the it showed like the height of the person in the picture. And I was like, This is genius. Everybody should do this. Everybody needs this because one of them was like a five foot like three girl and the other one was like a six foot dude. I was like Come on, I was just like their back like this, what does it look like on their back? Like, look, guys, this is everybody needs this this should be a standard industry standard photo right here. Come on.

1:00:15

No, it really is because that's something you'd be able to try on or, you know, do something you know, later with that or you know, in the store and feel it, but a lot of these you can't get access to in a store though, anyway, yeah,

Collin  1:00:33

I think I'm very particular. You're like me, and you live far away from a store. And it's not feasible to go. Oh, you do that, like,

1:00:42

us too. I mean, the low. I mean, we go to Kohl's or Walmart to shopping or backpack? Yeah. For sure. So it's like, it's like a no, this this is gonna have to be done online. And I did I when I was looking for Lillian's backpack, I had like 27 different. tabs open trying to search for like different reviews and different being what do people talk about when they win? What's the durability of this? How easy it is? How easy is it to clean? And I went through all that trouble. And then Megan went to the first day of new students kind of like a new student orientation and found out that they don't eat backpacks they retell what they need a backpack. They just recommended it. Okay, behind backpack or what it was. Like, that's

Collin  1:01:39

not cool, though. Right? You don't want your daughter to be not a cool, that's that's unacceptable. Well, it's a pull behind backpacks are totally not cool. It's because they it's a it's a co op that we do some they do. She goes to school in session. No, it's fine. I totally agree. But they go in session Monday, Wednesday, Friday, and then Tuesday, Thursday, we actually are doing like a homeschooling thing. So they bring their their schoolbooks home twice a week. And so she needs to have room to do that. And she's, you know, all of 40 pounds soaking wet. So they were like, yeah, pull behind could be good. That was a whole other like, I've never shopped for one of those. So I don't even know what I don't know about these. And that was fun. Real quick. as problematic, yeah, that's well, you know, I guess she haven't first grade. That seems a bit excessive. Well, I mean, Devon curriculum books, kid.

1:02:52

I mean, I think it's only two or three. But, you know, two or three plus a lunchbox. Plus? Let's find out right. pretty quick. So we're in the code movie. Okay.

Collin  1:03:09

Cut down what that was trying to find. Anyway, that's enough. Yeah, I think I think there are things in like, all in our lives where we're like, no, like, I this needs to be right. And I like you said, Brandon, like, I know when I see it or feel it. In the case of a lot. It's true. I have to note them down and periodically bring him up if I can think of anything. Besides one last side note about backpacks. It's really hilarious watching sixth graders come like the first day of school. And like they can't fit their backpacks in their locker like what what do you have in there? We haven't even done anything. What do you do? Right You know? Cuz if they came to open house, all their stuffs already in their locker right there like binder and their paper and stuff. It's already in there. So like, they come with their backpack and like what? How is that full? What are you doing? Why always be scared? Yes. Oh, crazy. Good. But, yeah, other than that. Oh, you guys got anything else going on? Really? Not that I'm aware of. I'll find out soon. No. Okay. Well, I think we need to jump on the high school reading book challenge. And this is true, but it's gonna be digging there. So we can get it. Yes, I explained. Aaron. Aaron. I don't know. These people online. They keep telling me that The Great Gatsby is great. Like our best book ever. It's hot. All these like 25 like better books of all time. And like the 50 books to read before you die, it's like I'm with you. I mean, it's fine parities,

Aaron  1:05:11

I've seen the movies. I've read both variations of the book. The deals. I agree totally. The 2020s were absolutely horrendous. I will. I will not read it. I will read anything else except the gray get I will read the original Romeo and Juliet,

Collin  1:05:27

I will skip that. But I just thought it was hilarious. I've never seen it on so many lists until you said that. And I don't know. It was one of the things where my brain was just like looking for it now, I guess. But like, I was doing some reading on those kinds of lists. This weekend. I found like a billion and The Great Gatsby is on all of them. And I'm kind of with you like it's I mean, it's it's not that great, guys. I mean, it's just thought it was hilarious. After you said that, it just like jumped out at me everywhere. It just No, I totally agree with you that like I said last week, every single phrase in the book is horrid. So it's not like enjoyable, and they're not likeable people. Get out of your Daisy, no one likes you.

1:06:25

Well scratch that from homeless. And well, trying to find some a little bit more

1:06:36

parameters for there. Alright, sounds good. Well, though, I will work on that background. And enjoy the rest of your evening and have fun at school tomorrow. Yay.

Collin  1:07:03

Love you guys. Let me see you. Bye.

1:07:10

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