We are joined by Mr. No Voice this episode to talk about allergies and voice loss. He also says magical names from the land of Oklahoma. Jeep needs more work. Hold on to your hats, Brandon bought rocks. Seriously. We love maps. PLUS some great recommendations for keeping your research organized. AND we finally have a new challenge. Coming SOON!

Aaron had a looooong night
Blowout game
Do sunflowers help a sore throat?
He’s playing far away places
Allergies!
Brandon is slowly recovering
Collin adjusting to no naps
The Jeep needed new brakes
Kids are in school
And is hiring!
Brandon’s partially full week of school
Maps - graphical organization of data
Brandon bought on rocks...but not just ANY rocks
Blue...so it’s better!
Everyone loves lapis
Everyone also loves Mesopotamia
Lengthy task about hammers
Science shovels of science
Academia.edu
Mendeley
High School Reading List Challenge!
The Outsiders

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Collin 00:04

Welcome to Oh, brother, a podcast of three brothers trying to figure it all out with your hosts, Brandon, Collin and Aaron. On this week's show. Everyone loves Lapis. Hello. Hello. Hi. Hi. No voice blue. exciting night.

Aaron 00:36

It was a long night yesterday. And it was a mixture of already having a sore throat class losing a voice then. Oh, hey, let's go to football game now. Hey, the game is really, really exciting. And oh, hey, I have no voice today. So this is the is the end effect of all of that combined to one so I apologize. I'll be muting myself off and on for coughing and sneezing purposes.

Collin 01:03

That was me all last week. So no worries. We are used to this. Sorry mo also Yeah, so here's a question. Oh, are complete blowout games exciting. So is that only if you're coaching them? Or is that in all is is in your opinion?

Aaron 01:27

So for for me it's definitely part of the coaching aspect. It definitely wasn't a blowout game the first half it was actually like 12 to aid for like the longest time because we wanted to try different things give different looks and in there like oh, yeah, let's try this. Oh, that didn't work. Right. Let's try this. Nope, that didn't work. Well, and what if that didn't work? So halftime came in midair, like, you know, let's go back to our usual stuff. And then that's when the floodgates open per se and it was it was really exciting because a lot of our especially a lot of my kids, my tailbacks my running backs. My linebackers did a lot of good things that game so it was really exciting. I was really high forum. I was pretty much talking the entire time of the game. Calling plays situations, things like that. And so it just perpetually got worse. So by the end of it, I was like, Hey guys, just trying to get that set in there. And it was also extremely hungry. So I was like just shoveling sunflower seeds in my mouth. Which that

Collin 02:32

was that's, that's how

Aaron 02:36

and so.

Collin 02:38

For a dry hoarse throat, yes. Salty, sunflower seed. Nice.

Aaron 02:43

So a little bit of a little bit of everything mixed with that data perpetuated the current situation. By this morning, I felt absolutely terrible. I was I coughed all night. I was sneezing. The biggest headache. I don't have a headache now. But I have my bottle of allergy stuff sitting right next to me. And that's helped a lot because I can actually like wow, I haven't sneezed as much today as I did yesterday. So it's a little it's a little bit of everything happening all at once. supposed to go to a birthday party in Tahlequah. today. We want to Shelby's friends. I was like I am not moving. I am so sorry. Because I will sneeze on everybody. And that is not what we want. And so I stayed home and recovered and am on the recovery slope

Collin 03:38

upward. Pay nice. Yes, for hoarse voices might I recommend grandmother's passively is becoming lozenges. Hmm. I never learned more about that read go back and listen to Oh brother a mistaken identity indeed.

Aaron 04:02

Losses like that, especially for like, teaching wise, but I need to get something for my my little dress or my little desk thing because Yeah, that'd be nice. also noticing that Friday and I was like, Oh, I do this all day.

Collin 04:16

Yeah, especially for days like that. I mean, especially for you because I just use them mostly at the beginning. And like this this week, I've been like dealing with the after effects of extreme allergy. So like my throat spins for a little bit, but not too bad. And but yeah, if you're going to be doing class all day long, and then like have practice or games that I think that would be something you might want to check out. You know, actually tie I

Aaron 04:44

have a coaching bag that has all my little notes and stuff. And I've just accumulated things over time like I have, I have a emergency pack of gum in there. Since I chew gum a lot. I have a pack of sunflower seeds in there and I have my allergy and Like ibuprofen stuff in there too. And so I was like, I need to make a list for open there. So every away games like I always take that with me because I'm like, knowing my luck, I'll be stuck in the middle of nowhere. modalities will start kicking in. So I was like, I need to have an emergency bag for lunges or Next on my list. Well, you do

Collin 05:17

coach football in Oklahoma, so the chances that you're going to be in the middle of nowhere are very hairy. Turns out

Aaron 05:26

let me let me just google real quick where we'll be playing. It's an away game. Next Friday. It looks the finest and Google Ad Oh, good. Eatonville, nowhere so great. Not that far from us. Sort of.

Collin 05:49

Okay, now what is not that far in Oklahoma? Speak? Is it

Aaron 05:56

smarty pants? smarter? 10 hold off, I can spell.

Collin 06:02

So our east coast listeners are they're gonna need to know that. Not that far. Does it mean like 45 minutes? Oh, wow, that is not that far. out. That's like next door.

Aaron 06:16

Let me let me look at my other list. Cuz when I got our schedule, I'm like, I have no idea where any of these people are at. I'm one of them is about an hour and a half away. Other ones other ones about 4045 minutes. I have no idea where that schools at? I don't know where that towns? Let me let me let me just Google that real quick.

Collin 06:39

Let's do that. That was gonna be my question. Since since it you do eight man football? Yes. I was wondering if that means meant that like away games would be further away. So because like not everybody does. Eight man or is it like a lot of people in that kind of that area?

Aaron 06:58

I'm doing it for? I don't know. For us. We will be redistrict next year, to where we're going to try to be playing some closer people. Since it is you know, a smaller, newer school sport. It is it is actually kind of popular in a lot of places here in Oklahoma. The last few years, it's been tried to consolidate down toward people don't have to drive as far the people that once stayed in class B. Last year, they're all the way on panhandle. And I remember talking to their coach and they're like, Oh, yeah, we drove for hours to state. I was like, oh, and he's like, in that moment. I was like, and that's a common thing. He's like, Yeah, no, we had to drive like, you know, the closest one was like 30 minutes, but the farthest one was like three hours. I was like, Oh,

Collin 07:56

my gosh, like normal season games. Yeah.

Aaron 07:58

So because it's even though it's also like, you still have to play people in your districts. Yeah. But in your in your classification? Because why?

Collin 08:08

Yeah. Yeah, that's what I was curious about, because I didn't know if like, based on town sizes, and like how far apart they are if like, you know, one town plays eight man, but the next town is big enough that it plays like normal football. And so it's got like the town after that. So I didn't know how the districting works. It was that because it's kind of different. It's a different category than other sports.

Aaron 08:35

It's def definitely falls into the the ADM of the school. It doesn't have to be about town populations, but the school population

Collin 08:43

Yeah, well, I just met normally those two things are related, right? Bigger towns have bigger schools for

Aaron 08:48

us around us. We got like, two really good Oh, we got two decent size, which would be kind of like two or three a kinda like rogersville size or like, a little bit bigger around us. Yeah. But like there's some other towns that don't have football, like at all, and they don't even have eight man or let alone 11 man, so yeah, districting just and also due to kind of COVID restrictions, they've always tried to, you know, lessen the travel time. And it's also kind of a financial issue, especially with smaller

Collin 09:23

traveling. Yeah, small schools can't travel that far that other budget. And

Aaron 09:28

so for us, our our district this year, is we do play some of the larger we're just oxymoron itself. The larger eight man schools, the people are just kind of powerhouses of eight man. Because there's you know, all the way from six a six a 2681 all the way down until like a, b and c and even though my arm We're a BCI school, you know, we still have to kind of jump to 80. Or to see which is Uber super tiny. So for us, we still district wise we play a lot of like powerhouse people, but it's either in a, like 40 minute range, or to like a two hour range. One of them is a private school in Tulsa that we play right down the road. Other side of Stillwater, right down the road, Tulsa, close to Oklahoma City, close to one city, other says Stillwater no idea where that town is no idea where then we play. The last game is Barnes doll, which is not that far. Well, it's it's 45 minutes from where I live here in a wasco. And I visited there a lot, especially with my last job. But that one's kind of the only, like 1234 ish, five ish, six out of the 689 10 are pretty in between that, like 30 minutes to 45 minute range. So it's not bad. And that's kind of common, but like, what if we are if we are bigger, we would probably have to drive like, you know, over an hour and a half, two hours just to play some of the bigger eight man school. But last night, it was frustrating, because we should have been out out of there by halftime. But we just got to wrap things and kids didn't know their assignments. And it was just more frustrating. But after we made our adjustments and called, you know, our game plan was like, Oh, this is how we play.

Collin 11:41

Nice. Well, good day. Yeah, that was Yeah, that wasn't my question about the because that the final score did not indicate an exciting game per se. But if that is, if that's kind of how it unfolded, that makes a lot more sense. Yeah,

Aaron 11:57

the the first half it was it was definitely it would have looked like one of those good old fashioned like 1980s 1990s just like powerhouse you know, put in the eye formation just kind of go for it kind of was like all run very little passing. And because it were designed the kind of the, you know, spread option read run on offense, we just kind of wind it up in you know, did kind of power sets and so it was a good old like bashing football. It was like really close and it was all defense. And then raw. Hey, this is hey, we forgot how to play football. Let's say let's read it our and then like we are open, our offense opened up we had running lanes. Still past very little, all of our damage was done on the ground. So it was just a fun game does let my tailbacks explode and so

Collin 12:54

in the Maryland I yeah,

Aaron 12:56

when you get to these bigger schools, however it can get if we were three points away from the from the game run ruling, so the game would have been over. But the problem is, and this is where I was at with my first school. There's there's no run rule in those larger schools. And so you have to sit there and take your punishment of like 75 to nothing so really, yeah, they do accelerated clock or the clock just continuously doesn't. Yeah, but you but you can't be like, can the game be over? It's already like 25 you know, three in the third quarter? Can we just please

Collin 13:37

that's really No, that's odd that they stop it for some and not others. That's

Aaron 13:43

really weird. Again, that that's eight man football and I know but that's still it goes much faster, much faster game on the field is smaller. So it's a lot more you know, up tempo things like that. And so just know

Collin 13:56

I meant did quick. They wouldn't stop game. If the score was that crazy for they do it for like smaller teams, but for bigger teams. They're like, just anyways. 157 like, What? Why?

Aaron 14:09

That happened. That happened a lot with me. My first goal was like, oh, man, this game is already being blown out the water is the game ending. No. Okay, this is fun. I'm having fun.

Collin 14:22

Though. That sounds kind of terrible. Actually.

Aaron 14:25

Those are very long and very miserable games.

Collin 14:29

Yeah. Yeah. Well, ledger winning. Sorry about not feeling good, but that's definitely the going around thing. Recently, allergies are taking down everyone in the world. That I know personally. It's very bad. Yeah, yeah. Jane is down. So my friend cooler down. A kid like Just allergies everywhere. I've been slowly recovering this week, though, still, like congested but feeling better. Yeah, I've been basically sneezing nonstop the past several days. Even with allergy medicine. It has not helped. I've been less suffering. Yes. So anyway, we shall persevere into that. Collin. How was your week? We had a interesting week. So the kids well, Lillian, try it. Well, it was at school. Monday, Wednesday and Friday this week. There no is it school? Wednesday and Thursday because he's doing a pre k class that Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, from 1230 sorry, from 12 to three. And then Lillian's in school from eight to three or eight to 315 depending on the day, and yeah, so they have both reported that they are liking them. Of course this is also meant that we have finally had to drop all naps. Which Oh, Megan and I that day has come You know, we we like naps for many reasons. One of them is we get to nab which is very nice. We saw the video and yeah. So that's it. We don't get to do that anymore. I think they're gone. So you know not bother everybody at school. No. Okay, now. We are only able to nap. Mondays and Wednesdays after Noah gets dropped off. You're right so we could nap them. Put every other day. Somebody is here right Lillian be here on Tuesdays and Thursdays while no is gone. And then Monday was a Friday Lillian's gone the whole day but no as gone only in the afternoon. So we went all right. So we're all sorts of adjusting. It's mostly Megan and I adjusted. adjusting to no naps, which is it's fine. But both the kids really enjoyed their days because they're doing new stuff. Lillian is going to a co op thing. So Monday, Wednesday, Friday, she's in the classroom and then Tuesday, Thursday, she's here at home to do schoolwork with us. We haven't done that yet. We'll start that next week. But she's been enjoying it. picking her up at three. The last two days. You can tell she's really tired. She's it's a big adjustment for her to lot. The lot of lot for her to be paying attention for that long. But she's at least enjoying it so far. Noah is the same. He's been very tired. So will we go pick up Noah and then we have to drive in. Exactly. No joke from our house. If you drive east 15 minutes you get to Lilian school. From our house. If you drive West 15 minutes, you get to know a school. Which means that when you pick up Noah, you have 30 minutes to drive in the car to pick up Lily. And then 15 minutes back home for Noah, he we picked him up and like he legit like a just about fell asleep in the car. nap. He can get a little nap and on the way to go. Yes, he's fine, but I can't nap while driving. That's right. You'll be okay. So, yeah. And this week was also a little press because our jeep was in the shop for new front brake. No, not again. I know new front brakes. So front brakes are replaced. He did say that the back brakes should be replaced, like in two oil changes or so. So whatever. The guy is really nice. He actually teaches shop class at State Fair Community College. And he works also at Firestone in town. So I believe Okay, I will trust my car to you. Yeah, pro right. Yes, professional. He's he was really nice. And I it was delayed because I took the car in on Monday to get it fixed. And then they ordered the part. But the part didn't show up until Thursday morning. And so we were operating on one car The whole week Anyway, it was fine. We got over it, Steve. Steve's very nice. Steve from Firestone. Thank you. But Steve Jobs Steve. Now really nice guy. And then and then the other. Yeah. So yeah, it's been, it's been quite the week. And then Thursday, Megan and I posted a job opening for a pet sitter and dog walker in Springfield. The Empire grows Dad, dad, dad. And here's the thing, we were like, Look, we don't have all of our ducks in a row, like I have my ad written for this position. I don't know what steps two through infinity are. But I've got the app written. Let's just go ahead. It's step two, post. Okay, so after it's posted, our have everything figured out, it's fine. I've let me just post this and see what kind of people apply. Within an hour, we had eight applicants. Within by the next day, we had one D. This morning, we hit 50 applicants for the position. Wow. So that was fun. And it was, um, you know, it's bizarre. So then suddenly, I was like, Oh, I guess I really need to figure out like, payroll and worker's comp and insurance and getting bonded for these people and getting my business license up and running in Springfield. Things? Yeah. Cuz I mean, it's like, there's no, like, I don't have to hire any of these people. Right? Like, I don't have to hire any of these people. I also don't want to lose an opportunity for someone who's legitimately interested. We've had several other people tell us that they've had to take between 50 and 75 applicants before they found somebody that worked for them? Oh, yeah. Because they were finding that many people were applying to stay on unemployment benefits, like they were just clicking buttons, a lot of time, just to apply, I've just got to apply, right, and this person is ever going to accept me. But I just have to, I've got to be working here. And I understand that at some point, like if you're unemployed for a long time, at some point, the relevant jobs just aren't there. And you but you've got to keep applying. Right? Like you can't be picky. And yeah, a lot of times for these for these to meet your requirements. And if you've been on unemployment for three months, like you've dredged the entire job pool in a 100 mile radius at that point, and you just don't get that many new postings every week, right. And you've got to hit a weekly quota when you're on there. So I understand people are just trying to post for things that come up. And so we very quickly weeded out about 11 of them that were like, No, these these people are totally a no go. If you want to put like, I've never seen a dog before they're out. Favorite. This is my favorite. One of my questions is I have blank number of years experience with pets. And the number of people who put basically their age, like someone put I have 21 years of experience with pets. And I was like they've had they've had pets. I was like, sweet. Show me. I can't wait to see this person's resume, where they have 21 years of pet Oh, no, no, no, they graduated high school in 2007. And they've been in retail and in administration and clerical work since then. But they've had a pet. They didn't put that on their resume. They should have pet owner, right. That dog enthusiast. Exactly. That's the other thing of like, then like how do you spend your free time just Instagram dog posts on fit on Google Photos of dogs I was gonna say Instagram because if people like post photos of actual dogs on there, but Google Photos will at least be infinite. It's like I'm pretty sure Instagram at this point is infinite right if this basically shows you right like I it's growing faster than you can scroll so I need I think the universe expanding he can't get to the end. exactly as we approach the heat death of the universe, so to do we asymptotically approach the number of cat and dog photos in the universe. I felt like this is the other thing of the number of non specialized or non words that I'm searching for here. The number of resumes that they didn't refine it to meet the position, that didn't make it, oh, just the stock resume, they just sent out to everything. Again, sure, they may, they may have 21 years of experience of pads, it's not reflected. So that's like, I'm left to guess what's going on here. And I don't like guessing. So many of those people also got weeded out. But also people who either didn't have anything in their resume or nothing was attached or all sorts of stuff. So but there are also people that are we're groomers that did work for kennels, or vet offices that we are extremely interested in and say, Oh, yeah, so Megan, and I sat down and wrote out a list of like, 2025 questions for people. And then we've broken that into two rounds. So there's a first round of 14 questions that we're going to mail out to people. And then what we get back from that, from that subset will mail out the rest of the questions. And then we're going to meet with the people to, to see how they're doing, and get to know them a little bit more at that point. Nice. So they have tattoos of dogs. You've made it to the second round of interviews. So Exactly. Or cats are good, that's fine. Right? That's, that's a good sample, too. I mean, it may get a tattoo of pets, then here in Vegas didn't want the first round of questions to be too risky, like too much. I was like, these are really simple questions. They're, they're like, describe your pet care experience. list your availability? Why did you apply for this position? Will you pass a background check? Like some pretty like, yes or no. And the questions are like, like, like, what are you willing to do? What are you so that we can get to know? Because if one of these questions I have on here is like, this is a part time job, how many hours a week are you looking for? Because if they come back, and they say I need 39 hours, for my part time job, I'm not going to be able to fill that for this person. And so it's like, I don't even want to offer this position to this person. If they're like, Oh, you can only offer me 10. Like, I can't make that work, or I'm too busy or whatever. So it's, that's where we are. And then Megan wanted to throw in this question of how do you make a peanut butter and jelly sandwich? It's a classic, step by step problem, problem solving one? Well, it's also going to chastise everybody that forgets to say open lid of peanut butter jar. Yes, I do. And now, like math class, when you write down procedures, right, yeah. Now here's the key. These are written, these are all written. So we asked the peanut butter and jelly question, because many times in dealing with pets and their owners, I have to write out a very detailed description of an event that took place so that the owner understands what happened. whether this was an attack, whether this was a dog that got out, this dog ate something, I need to be able to clearly communicate that in text message to have it documented for the company. That's something Megan I work on a lot is this event happened? How do I text this to this person, because they're out of cell phone range, or I at least need to have this documented if something comes back on us. So that's why we have that in the written portion too. And then we've got more of like, situational ones for the in person interview of things like, you know, you're opening up a door to the house and the dog slips out bolts out before you can get to it. What do you do? Just to see like, I'm not looking for whether this person has the right or wrong answer. I want to figure out what's this person thinking? What are their What are they how are they going to process this? Well, I mean, there are some wrong answers like runaway, but no chase after it, right? Yeah, like, you know, lock the door and pretend everything's fine. There's wrong answers here. We just do the walk without the dog. Yeah. Not blatantly wrong. But, but it's like, you know, I just wanted we have some more situational type for the in person ones that we'll have to parse out through a little bit later. And again, I don't expect like I'm not excited. Getting these people to have, obviously 10 years of experience in this. So a lot of these things, I'm going to ask whether they have one year or no years of pet experience, because that was something too is when we listed the position, we made it a cross training opportunity. And we got this advice from somebody who was like, Look, when you're first starting with a dog walker, you're going to have basically no hours for them to walk because you're still building your client base. So that's true. In order to keep them engaged in working with the company, have them do other things, like writing social media posts, working on editing photos, working on canvassing neighborhoods for the company, like, go ahead and try and pay them what you can for those hours, where they're working, not just on petsitting. And so we're also thinking of, Okay, I have somebody, maybe they've got like, we have a few people who have no experience with petsitting, but also do their own private, like, they also are into photography and run a social media have a social media presence for that side business of their so we're like, okay, like that, what other skills can we pull from here that are going to be beneficial that we can also train on the social that we can also train for the petsitting? And then vice versa? We have somebody coming in from the veterinary grooming side, does this person lend themselves well to being trained on running some of the graphic software that we use to make posts for social media? Or can I trust them to have access to the backend of our booking and payment processing software? So they can handle that for clients? Like that's, that's where we are, but just trying to find that good, robust client and robust. Hire me. Interesting. So that was that was exciting for us this week, with the with the petsitting. That's about all the new stuff. We go. Yeah, that's a lot of new stuff that's less than new things. We're very tired. And naps are gone. I know. Took naps away from her. But yeah, yeah. And I am. Actually one of our clients is an instructor at the community college here. And she runs. She teaches business one on one, basically. And she was picking up her dog one day, and she was telling us about, you know, she's going through these tough subjects and stuff. And she pauses and she goes, Oh, hey, you guys should come and give a presentation to my class on this tip on this coming Tuesday, and I was like, what, what do I wait, what? Yeah, she's like, Yeah, that'd be perfect. In both Nick and I were kind of like, Ah, okay. So, we're gonna go, for whom? Exactly. She doesn't have to teach that day. I'm just figuring this out. Cuz she had something like, Yeah, she likes to invite local businesses to her class to talk about how they run an operate. And then she was like, oh, it'd be like, good advertising and marketing for you guys to really, probably not all these college students that can afford pets. Wait a minute. Yeah. Probably not. So anyway, so we're, that is actually this Tuesday, coming Tuesday, and I haven't put my presentation together naturally. So naturally, it is safe. Out here. Oh, goodness. But yeah, other than that, we are making it work. We're doing well. Doing well. You Brandon, you've you've had another full week of classes, though. Right. You've been? Yeah, yeah. We had a was a full week tweeted High School Monday. Oh, right. It was Labor Day, right? Yes. Labor Day. And so it is about Monday. And then yeah, just last week. We just finished up some stuff science. section one over a quiz Friday. We did pretty well. On our like, science skills test about like variables and methodology and asking question things. Like, to the heart, one of the things that I really struggle with it, it's not just me, it's like a because I talked to other science teachers too. And it's like How's it going? I try to focus on the the getting better at asking questions. These are really hard subject matter thing to talk about. Right. Like, and not just like questions like, useful questions. Right. Sure. Useful questions that are answerable. Right. Like, last year, because I had last year, some of the questions they would ask, they'd be like, why is that blue? Because it is I don't, that's really, because somebody decided it should be blue. There's no reason. There's really no thought behind that at all. Like, what are you talking about? They were asked just like the weirdest things like that, like, What? Why? Why would you think of it? And so like, you know, we did some, like scenarios, like some mock observations, right of like, Oh, I wonder what, you know, this is Ben, like, all that. So it's very, very weird. And so that's a struggle that we have to kind of deal with. And so the beginning, we sort of start planting those seeds so that we can use, you know, bring them up in contexts of stuff later, you know, because we're getting ready to start geology on Monday, the best time. So hopefully, it's time to figure out some better ways to do that, because that's a pain. And it's difficult. And it's like, important for sciency things, right. But like, scientific inquiry, like making observations and asking questions about things around you is basically that science there it is, ladies, gentlemen, that's it. Mystery solved. It's not like some big super secret thing, right? You've looked at thing and go. I wonder, blank. That's it. That's 90% of sites done. And like, getting them to ask like useful questions, though, is the hard part. Once you're, you know, can actually test or measure something about them? Yeah. Not not just like, why is that purple? It's a paint on the wall. Somebody likes purple. I guess. I don't know why. What? We're focusing on the wrong things here. Right. I know. asking good questions is, is really hard. That is, because that takes I know, sometimes people when I come across trying to ask good questions, or people who are asking questions, sometimes I feel like a they're trying too hard. Like they're trying to sound smart with their question. But be i think i can i think i get caught up of like, well, I don't know anything about this topic. So how can I ask a good question? I don't even know where to start. Yeah, my question. And, you know, I think another part B of this is that they 11 year olds, assume that you can just like Google things, and it will tell you an answer. Right. I've talked about this before, too. But that's not really how this works. No, like, we were taught we did I have an activity that we do, because I have some like random atlases in my classroom. So we do a map injure hunt. And so like, I can't help myself, sometimes it's fine. Like I went through, and I just like, because it's not necessarily about maps, right? Because, because, yes, it's correct that, you know, like, do we need to use the map everyday in our life now? And 2021? Yeah, no, no, I doubt. Right. If I want to just go somewhere. I go, I put it in Google Maps. And it takes me there. Right. So I don't need a map for that, per se. However, if we think about all the other things maps offer us in terms of graphical organization of data, data, then then yes, we do very much need maps, because in Atlas, the first parts like you know, what direction is Phoenix, Arizona from here, right? Whatever. But like later, it's got all these sub divided categories, like average annual precipitation, for the Midwest region, and it's got a map with the you know, the little colors and everything, like climate regions, and what's the other one? What about vegetation, right. Population dense. The, like, agricultural products, right? Like, land usage, right? That's all in this book that I have randomly in my classroom. So I tried to find questions about those. So we could like learn about looking at maps for other stuff. Sure, right. Like, how do I and that kind of ties into some of our science goals of like, How do I look at graphical, you know, data and understand what it's telling me and draw conclusions from that. Right, right, because that's what a map in that like a precipitation map. That's what that is, right? Or average annual, July, maximum temperatures, right like that, that map is telling me something different. So that in that case, I still need to know how to use a map. But it's not for directionality. It's for, you know, this climate data, or this population stuff, or land usage, right. All that stuff. So yeah. It's really interesting. Some kids really get it. They're like, Oh, that's cool. I've never seen that. I have some kids. Like, why do I need it later? Freedom map? First of all, I just told you all these things. So clearly, you were not paying any attention whatsoever. Second of all, that you just don't want to do this. Because it involves trying. So you're really there's like those two kids that are just like a, but by no, I, I use, I use maps for so many things. I mean, one of my favorite things is looking at like density of certain particular pieces of information and like a heat map on Oh, yes, geography right to see density of, I don't know, like anything that you want, right? There are a lot of things that you can use to convert that into a heat map to show the density of things in an area. So yes, spatially showing data is insanely important. And when I yeah, when I go look for like, just whenever I go search for things like on Google, like, if I'm going to start and search for restaurants in an area, I don't go to just google.com I go to maps.google.com to find the restaurants in the area now. Because it's just for me, it's easier to see where things are that way than scrolling on a list. Even though it's the exact same information, it's just more pleasant for me to take in that information and see where things are. Well, it's it's the second part, right? We practice a lot of reading information in paragraph form, you know, but like interpreting the visual data is also important that comes in lots of different formats, maps, charts, graphs, you know, exciting various things whenever but like, you know, it's it's, in some instances, it's much more digestible, like you said, right, it's much quicker. And you can just look at that. Right? So try to get that skill. rolling around in some heads is a little tricky sometimes, because there are a lot of kids that are like, oh, I've never seen this, man, I didn't know that you could use a map for temperature. Or I've never, you know, I never thought about using a map for land use by area, right, like, you know, so it's kind of interesting to watch them do that. So that was fun. That was our big project for this week. So that's pretty much it, man. Oh, I got some new rocks. Oh, yeah. Very exciting. For Yes, I bought some rocks. Literally bought rocks. Okay, did now there's not just any rocks. These are raw, unpolished lapis lazuli samples. bagging. Raw on. Well, they're just like unpolished. They're like cuz you a lot of sometimes staples. They like cut in like they polish them up to make it look pretty, you know, I mean, these are just like hunks of rock. So yes, but it's blue. So it's better. Yes. Everyone loves Lapis. It's great. twofold usage, right. Number one, geology class number two ancient cultures for social studies, right? Because both the Mesopotamians and the Egyptians were extraordinarily fond of Lapis and used it in all sorts of decorations in temples and grave goods and all kinds of exciting things. all that exciting blue is Lapis, right? If it's paint, and it's blue, it's most likely crushed up laughing flap is turned into paint the theme here right? Yes. It's a bit of a theme flap with everybody. And it sort of like, illustrates of how interconnected Bronze Age societies actually were because the main source of Lapis, it's in Egypt and the Fertile Crescent Mesopotamia, like Iraq area. It's it's not native to those areas. It's from, like Afghanistan. Right, was the major source of a lot of this Lapis. So Lapis and tin, which are important for making all the bronze, right, yeah. come from Afghanistan. So we think about ancient societies and cultures are being isolated, like very insular, you know, especially early sumeria. Right. We think about city states, we think about just cities by themselves. But we don't necessarily always think about how interconnected they were and how much trading was happening. And how much exchange of goods and information was happening on a very broad scale, that you wouldn't necessarily associate with 6000 years ago, right? You don't think about people from Egypt, being in contact with people from Afghanistan, you know, 6000 years ago? Because you basically have to walk there. So like, you know, that's, yeah, well, you don't you, you don't, because you think of the society that we have today and think, well, we're so connected, there's no way they would be anywhere close to this, right, I think, yeah. But it's actually, you know, it's really weird. Some of the, you know, even a little bit that we kind of start scratching the surface of, especially we talk about Mesopotamia, because I am very infatuated with Mediterranean society ever since I started teaching it right. Like, yeah, basically. You know, when that when they were gonna just go with the model, except to claim that this city was basically invented there, right. And whenever that sort of invented, whenever that happened, basically, you can sort of superimpose modern culture on top of that, and it looks large aspects of it look extremely similar. Like what sort of like appeared, like wholesale? Blam. Yeah, done. Everything. Not everything, obviously. But like, lots and lots of things show up. At the same time, when they did that. Large aspects of society becomes very recognizable, real quick. But even 6000 years ago, like yeah, that's why it's kind of nuts, right? Like to think about just how, how similar they are yet how to think about how far that we were removed from those cultures and even things that they they didn't even know or would have conceived of, or what problems they were facing or anything like that. yet. Here we are. With with the same problems or Yeah, yeah, really? Yeah, a lot of the similarities, a lot of the same jobs exist, right? I mean, like, yeah, we're doing this thing, then. It now. And it's just it's very interesting, and really fascinating. And so it's pretty, it's pretty cool. I've been reading I've been reading a book called Mesopotamia, the birth of the cities, right? In my spare time, it's been pretty cool. So it's, it's really cool. Because it's breaks down like, like, each chapter is about just like one of the major city states right now very foreign to animals, like a wreck or something. So super old still. But it's like one whole section is about that city, kind of what it looked like, and then its development. And some of the major aspects of it, you know, and things that were attributed there and just kind of like different aspects of culture that sort of came up during the time that that city was prominent and spread around everything. It's really cool, great, interesting book can recommend. You also like Mesopotamian history. I can't remember the author's name because it's at school on my desk, but looked it up here in a minute. But yeah, it's pretty. Pretty cool. So let's get ready for that. I also, let me see if I can find it here. Give me a I spelled Mesopotamia correctly the first time Can we just all like just take a moment to reflect on? Yeah, that's pretty good. Congratulations. Yes, Mesopotamia. The intervention of the city by Gwendolyn lick that's it. Got it. lick lick. El e IC K. Yes, her very good. Congratulations on spelling Mesopotamia though. That's a tricky one. If we're not being honest, it's not the first time I've had to spell it for this podcast, but it's, it's fine. Don't worry. Oh, everything's fine. So yeah, then doing that catering to that I had to I had a lengthy text conversation with our father this morning about hammers. Because I put together a list of things that I need to buy for my classroom and hammers is on that list. And so I had to ask him, I was like, so father. What, in your opinion, would be the ideal hammer for smashing rocks with a chisel? And he was like, What? Like, imagine, imagine you have a softball size rock sample. Sure. And you want that sample to be smaller. And you have a chisel and you need to hit the chisel with the hammer. What would be the best hammer to procure for set activity? Got it. Yeah, we had a discussion about hammers. Nice. Very, very exciting. All right. Sounds like it. Yeah, I'm gonna buy okay. I also saw Yeah, he said he recommended ball peen right. Okay, so he said bail ball peen hammer is flat and sturdy. And it can really take that shock Miss in there. That's good. So I'm putting together this list and I think that I might I'm really going for like most random purchases for the class. I want I feel that that purchase order. I really want the purchase order lady sometimes just be like, what you bought once. I have concerns. That's fine. So I've got so far the list. It's not quite done yet. I have a ball peen hammer. Right. Possibly, too. Right. So ball peen hammer times two just in case also comes in handy right? School intruders you know what got him? Sure. Popping hammers, I'm gonna buy some hard bristle toothbrushes for cleaning rock samples. Right? Those are like, those cheap ones are like $1 for like, five. So nice, perfect. Perfect. I probably also gonna buy like another bigger brush. to like, clean them better off outside, just like one of those. I don't even know what they're called, you know, the brushes that the handle is like, parallel to the brush face. They're usually yellow or blue in color. You like scrub the floor with them? or whatever? I'm talking about? Ah, yes, I think so. The handle like so the brush as you have the brush in the handle sort of curves up and then goes parallel to the brush surface? Yes, yes. Yes. Yes. You hold it. Like you hold it in like a hammer fist and you just like scrub the floor or something. It's a big scrub brush, I guess? I don't know. Any one of those. And I'm in the market for some sort of non hardening modeling clay. plasticine, I believe is the other term bandied about in this scenario. I swear that they don't want like playdough because that will just go bad. And like five seconds. Sure. No one's like use it. So I want to like modeling clay but not some non hardening. modeling clay that's reusable. is what I want for two things. Number one, demonstrations on imprint fossils. For sedimentary rocks, right? Because in my big closet of mystery, I found a bag of seashells. And so, you know, I'm imagining that those are there for this exact purpose. Why else would you have a bag of seashells in a closet? So I need some sort of clay. We'll be talking about how you know fossils get made by imprinting on the surface. Right well So for that, so some demonstrated things. And we could also use it to write in cuneiform. Look at that. Oh, exciting. So that can fun. Practically do some cuneiform letters. Because, like whole sentences is really hard because that's a complex situation. But we could like see what writing and clay would look like. Just that's basically all we want. We're not experts in key form. It'd be fun though. So I need some kind of non hardening modeling clay. I have to look around and see what I can find. Don't they? Yeah, I used to have I used to use that a lot. Had a modeling clay that was that never hardened. I don't know. I don't know where we got that. Maybe Hobby Lobby would have that. Maybe, cuz, yeah. I seen a brand name. It's like a look. I didn't get on line somewhere or something. But like, I don't know. I don't really know. I haven't investigated too much. I just thought this week. I need to look into that. Yeah. So as well as any other things, right. That's on my list so far. Okay. I just want her to be like, What? What are these receipts? You're free? Give me. Why do you have this? Yeah. We need to, we need to talk. Right? It's fine. One exam last year about like, eight shovels and she was fine with it. So it's no problem. Why is she fine? Yeah, I mean, violet. See? I mean, you know, it's hard to now bring science shovels of science. It's fine. Don't worry. Just like these will be science hammers of sciences. That's it use on all of your receipts you're gonna write for science? And yes, got it. They have to they also have to write my PO number like my official number for my Oh, like that. I've been be created by the principal saying yes. You have been allocated this much money to spend on things. Like Yeah, hammers. Perfect. Except, yeah. cameras and rock samples. What else do you need to spend money on? Nothing. That's what that's what this is. Books for your classroom? No rock samples. That's what you don't need to read. We need to have rocks to smash and blah. I mean, we could buy books about rocks. I guess that might be good. See? a loophole? How do we get Brandon to buy rocks or buy books for his classroom? He about rocks. He literally weirdly, weirdly, not a lot of books about Mesopotamia for sixth graders. They're all like, Oh, yes. college level like insane. Shot shocked. Who could have possibly had seen that coming? I've just Yeah, I know. Right? I didn't I didn't know why. No? Why? Right. They learn about it. Like I can't believe that. Like they know their audience or something. Yeah, me five to buy it read the book and then teach children about. Exactly. And now for brain. I bought the books that you didn't have to for sixth graders. Yes. Yeah, pretty much, right. I've also been amusing myself, I don't know how I discovered this. Here's my other thing I've been doing. I discovered like, and I don't really know how this happened. Like I this is real, even relatively recently. And I don't know how I guess it was probably in a search result, I was probably searching for something. And it was in a result, right. And I clicked on it. And it's a website that is just like academic research papers. And they're just there. And you can just download the PDFs and just read them sweet or print them or whatever. And they're just they go blank. So I love it. I've been reading all these research papers about Mesopotamia and things right like, Oh, yeah, this is kind of cool. So I've downloaded a couple of them. Read some I read one about Lapis, which is what inspired my purchase. Right? It's pretty good, actually. But yeah, I just discovered that you can just there's here they are. You could read them. I just probably Mail on there. And they're like, all right. There you go. Have some PDFs. You can search like literally anything. And Blam, it will bring you like 12 billion articles that people have written. Read Mike science stuff about this. It's crazy. I wouldn't do you think it's because you have access through your? I don't know. I'm not sure if it's like school. I have no idea. I just yeah. I don't know. NASA Oh, yeah. Hey, yeah, wait for the phone call, right? No. Yeah, they never asked for billing information. So what you don't know is that their billing per like, for download or something like that? A man? billing me I didn't put nothing in there. So I didn't talk with my school email address. But possible deniability. Yeah, yeah. And they didn't say, you can pay for like, mass downloads. And it'll be like, if you pay like a fee, there's like, it'll be like, here are 375 papers about this topic. You can download them all right now in a zip file. Like I the very, I don't, I don't want to. But also a very interesting service. Because I will tell you of having had to parse in, dig through and find tons of research articles. It's a pain to go one by one to build your library. And oh, yeah, I let me see here. What's my I use a, I don't know, if you need a manager for your research articles. I use mingulay. Me n d, e le y. It's a organization for research articles and for references. And you can actually plug into Word and auto generate your in text citations that then link to your work literature cited at the end of the page of the document. It fills in all that advice. And yeah, it's really cool. It's like a free version of Oh, what's the what's the paid one that everyone uses? I don't remember. But I don't I, I use this thing. Absolutely love it. I just pulled mine up. And I have something like 4000, or whatever documents that are in it. Yellow, that when you click on it, because it builds your database. So I can click on that. Oh, yeah. And I can go, you can actually search this. So it's really cool. It's like your own private search your own David bar that thing handy. And you can add populate it with all the stuff that's actually populate, it will try and auto populate your metadata for you already. So you can search by author, title, year published where it was published, the date that you added, and then it'll work through the rest of the document. So I can come in here and search for like maitrise Gill morphology, and not only will it search the title, it'll also search the text of each document. And it'll find all the references for each one of the Wow, holy cow. And so I have something like I just typed in. So when you're like, I know I've got it around here somewhere. Yeah, just so I have I just typed in Kiel morphology, and that pulled up 127 hits. And then I can click right on that. And it pulls up the PDF that I drag drag in there. And I can read it right through there. It is. Yeah. I love it. And I obviously don't do any of this anymore. But I, I don't want to get rid of rid of any of it. No, you never know when you might need it again. Right? It's important. So the second database for something else, right. And so that's the other thing is it has the free tier. But again, I have 4000 documents in it. I'm on the free tier. So yeah, you don't know your guy thing. And what also Oh, it's got this my favorite. Here's my favorite. My absolute favorite is it has check for duplicates. In that it will check your tire die for duplicates. And when you pull in an article, you can add all if it's if it's linked. Some documents aren't capable of doing this, but like most modern research articles, it'll ask Hey, do you want me to put in all of this articles references to that I can find in if they're nice, it'll grab them and and some of them it won't pull in the full article to add it'll just add the site to eat the citation. But then you can go back and find it later if you need to. It's really cool. So I recommend yeah, that's pretty awesome Mandalay for organizing all your stuff, and you can it's just for PDFs and I love it. That's pretty awesome. Yeah, this one's called. It's called academia ed.edu. That's it. It's just like, share free research stuff. It's just there. Blam. I had to Google the name of it, because I forgot. So yeah, I just been reading those at work. Like I found a bunch of cool ones that relate to some of my subject stuff. And so you can just kind of brush up on things or learn a little new insights stuff here. And they're like, Oh, yeah, I need to read about this thing and play him. There it is, or here's some a new perspective on this, read that boom. So pretty cool. I like it. That's why I've been amusing myself. During reading David school recently, pretty easy to do, especially when you have access to that kind of stuff. And that's something that's growing is free and open access open source research papers. Yeah. And, I mean, it's been hard. Even as recently as five years ago, it was kind of hard to find good. You know, that kinds of good sources, about things, you know, just anything, really. So when you had to look up, see I was doing, when I was an aide in high school, we had to look up, I had to help them, you know, look for, you know, research stuff on topics where the kids are writing research papers on, and it was kind of a slog, and hard to find good places to get, you know, where that stuff was cataloged? You know, there was a couple databases that you could use, we The school has access to one through the library by Hmm, you know, that would, you know, go back, just one. So, it's not gonna have everything you need for like, good research articles, you know, not exactly, random website or, you know, whatever. So, it's really hard to find a lot of them. So it's really handy that it is the becoming more accessible and easier to find, just on the broader scale is really good for, you know, actual resource or just hobbyists enthusiasts who just want to read random things like me, as Exactly, yeah. That's really cool. I told my friend about it, because she's doing a Master's class. And so I was like, she was like, I don't know where I can find a bunch of research papers. Like, let me tell you, I just found this thing. This might help you. Yeah. Yeah. Cuz I know you can go to scholar google.com and search there, but you have access to them or not. That's a whole thing that I you know, yeah, exactly. You can find them. Can you read them though? Right. Yeah. Yeah, that's harder. So that's really cool. It's been fun. And it's also kind of bad because they'll also send you emails like, oh, based on your reading history, we recommend these articles from the lookout. Excellent. Oh, yeah, no. Oh, no, turn. turn those off immediately. Just like Oh, hey, we saw that you read this, but do you want to read this one? Oh, yes. Yes, I do. Yes. And now Now that you have Mendeley it's a it's a reference manager is a can it was the word that I was thinking to think of. You can download them and then throw them over into Mendeley so that they can stay organized and that you can always search search that's true because right now they're just in my computer's drive with no black hole of things and I will forget where they are. I printed off a couple of the short ones so I can put them in my shelf for some my other stuff. But like some of them are very long. I don't really want to print off that because I won't read that on just printer paper probably like there's a couple on there that are like straight up books. What they're like yeah, they're like academic they're like books that are just like in PDF form wild that are like, like Dino nonfiction like really like hardcore like academic like books. Yes. Boom, there it is. Oh, yeah. I love finding those. Yeah, just like oh, this guy's whole entire translation of these. Like Sumerian writings, Lam, it's like two hundreds on pages like, like the entire this one entire, like translated version of The Epic of Gilgamesh like the whole thing flat right there like what? What? That's cool. Oh yeah, yeah, it's awesome. Yeah, you don't get those. Yeah, terrifying. And when I actually read that probably part of it, yes. But maybe but also, but also but also maybe. Definitely maybe anyway. So yeah, a couple of print it off, I read them. So I was just really interesting. I read, I read the one about the Lapis. I have another one I'm going to read about grave goods and cultural stuff. And then I've written it off the one that Dr. Irving Finkel wrote about the the rules for the Royal game of her that he did that he discovered and like, made out and everything is like his reference works that he put on there. Yeah. So I I read that one. That was awesome. Nice. So yeah, he's got like pictures of the source templates that he was reading off of everything is really awesome. Oh, absolutely. Cool. Sweet. For that one, too. So just dabbling slightly, getting some background information, but too good to begin to help get my brain back into school mode. After all that stuff, and then all those weeks of in service where it's like, your brain is in like, you know, this weird mode of like, I'm in school, but I'm only talking about like, data binders and administrative stuff. And yeah, insurance that I don't understand. Like, my car. So I'm at school, but I'm not like in school mode. Right. And so it's been helpful for it's sort of jump started me into like, Oh, yes, this is, this is what we do here. Right? We do this. Okay. Learn, we learned we learned right classroom activity is learning folders, right? Like, Ah, here we go. So like, Oh, yes, yes, here we go. Now. So this week was good for that. Kind of like Finally, after the first couple weeks of dealing with all that weirdness like, Ah, okay. Now we're in there. plus all the like, the first couple weeks that we're all there's really weird anyway, because it's like, you know, still getting used to being back in school. Like, learning the kid behavior patterns, like, just kind of learning about them. Okay, you clearly can't sit by that person, right? Like you. Wait a minute here. Nevermind. So we're sorting through all of that. And like, all that stuff, and like all the newness that's happening and everything, so I was like, sure. Find this week was like, aha, yes. Right. This is, this is what's happening. Okay. This is what we do. Yeah. Yes. I think it was the prospect of the geology unit coming up. I was like, Oh, Oh, right. The thing I like to do, okay, here we get hot, excited. Yeah. understandable, understandable. Okay. Because the first thing, it's kind of cool. And the kids like it stuff, but it's not like very, it's not super interesting. It's not superstitious about like methodology and like, the parts of the scientific method and what's an independent variable? Right? At the most riveting important, but not super exciting. So, like I said, they didn't get a quiz. A lot of us did pretty good. Forget about it. notes about things I need to do different. I do that I try to do that. I started doing that last year. I tried to like actively take notes at the end and be like, this needs to be different now. I need to do this thing better. Right? Like, yeah, focus more on this area, because I didn't do very good at that. Right. Sure. So that self review is hard. Right? That's not his first thing when you're excited about geology, and you just want to talk about like, geology. Yeah. I don't want to have to worry about it, connecting it. It's very easy to get excited about it. I understand. Understand. Yeah, but I tried to do that a little bit. So I made some changes to this. That's the from last year. And so we'll see just the process, right, just trying to evolve and make sure it's improving and doing good stuff. So it's also really annoying that like, I do that. And then like the administration like, yells, yells at everybody for like, not doing that. And like, but, but look, but I hear Look at, look at all my post it notes. Look at them. I look at I post it notes Look, look looking like I'm feeling attacked right now. And I didn't even do anything. This is not me. I not stand up in the middle of that meeting and be like, Well, I'm glad they aren't talking to me and walk out. See how they feel. Yeah, go well, I would probably end badly. So I do not recommend. Problem. Yeah, sure. But yeah. So that's a lot of a lot of other stuff going on, too. So yes, yes. Sorry. hijack conversation. You're fine. You're fine. I like what we do. That's true. Well, he's what we do. We'll we'll jump off here and let Aaron go. Continue to rest his throat and hopefully have a voice. should we talk about? Should we talk about the upcoming? That's all right. But should we mention the upcoming? Oh, challenge? plan? Yes, yes. Challenge talking about that. finalize it for us. So I know what to buy. Well, see, the thing is, is I forgot what book we decided. Well, I didn't either. That's why we're finalizing it now. Yes. So I can, cuz I want to make sure that so I haven't got anything either. We decided that we had not read the outsiders. Right outsiders? Yeah. Yes, the outsiders by. So this sorry, this is linked back to our high school reading lists challenge, where we were going to go in read books that you were supposed to have read it during high school, and recommended to have recommended that they recommend like all high schools, and whether we had read them, and then promptly forgot them, because that's been a moon or two ago. We don't need to talk about that. Or we never read them, but they were on a list anyway. And so we parse through a couple different lists are basically all the same. And decided that we just kind of threw a dart and one of the books that came out was the outsiders that we had not. We had not read at all. And so we decided we were going to read it. And that was by CSV. inton. Yes, there we go. So yeah, yeah, yes, I've been. Hopefully you remember it after this. Yeah, I think I also think it'd be fun to see kind of what we've tackled lots of other media, in our challenges. We haven't really done a book because it's a little more difficult. Right? Longer format. Maybe not then a Bollywood movie, but so we'll see this is a great, it's also partially an experiment to see if we can actually do it again. Okay. So I'm gonna get halfway through. It's a short book, though. So that's good. Yes. So what I propose is that, I don't know there aren't different versions of this. I don't think Anyway, what I'm proposing I think so. is we read trying to like a book club trying to read a chapter each week, or and come talk about it, or or what what are yours? What do you that's what I think, to help at least chunk through this. So we're not like, Wait till we all read the book, and then and then talk about it. What are your thoughts? Yeah, I think that would be good. I don't know how long the chapters are because I don't have it in my hand, because I didn't try to get it yet. Because I didn't know if that was going to be the final version of this challenge. Fair enough. I mean, the whole book is not long at all, so I can't imagine. I don't know I don't seem very long. Yeah, I don't know if you want to do like one chapter or like a like to or whatever, just depending on Let's sing, but let's set it reasonable for us. And let's the first let's just devote to reading the first chapter. one chapter And we'll keep keep us updated. I know if you're ordering it or whatever. It might not be the next episode or maybe the episode after that. To read that. Yeah, that's probably a good idea. Yeah. So we'll plan on reading that. Yeah. I think we'll do that. Not next week. But the next one the week after. Aaron, how do you feel about this plan? Cuz you're the busy one right now? Yeah. Oh, official. Okay. Yes, yeah. Don't buy the book. Don't buy the movie. There's a movie. I don't buy that. And then watch it and tell us you read the book. And the only you watch the movies true. Okay. That's true. But I think you might want the audio book because you can listen to that on the on the way to work. Graham, just like busted out. I was pulling up a lot. And

Aaron 1:21:24

I can probably get it a few days to a week. Think about it. Oh, you guys. No, no, no, no. What? If we're just, we're just doing like,

Collin 1:21:35

Chapter Yeah, that's probably Yeah, that's what we do. To keep it manageable. And then again, if we start going, like, if there's, like, these chapters are two pages long, we can do more. We'll go from there. We'll start with the first one. And see no, no, no, no. Yeah. That's a challenge that we are trying to get for so copy may continue with other books. Or even crash. Oh, wait, no, no way. No, we're gonna try it. So. So listeners, if you want to read along to the outsiders, I'm coming soon that if you read it before, or you've never read it also, oh, I don't want to if you read it before, it's your favorite book. Get ready to be mad, disappointed. fans out there. That is true. We're about to just brutally probably not get in the entire gist of this book or anything. So again, I don't know. It's hard. It's hard to know. Because we're interested. Here's the thing. Right? Yeah. That I'm interested in. Partially, because this is on that. The recommended reading list for high school students, because this is about like, kids. This is about like, teenagers. Right? The book is about teenagers. Yes. And I am in my late 30s. So like, not teen, what is the book? Yeah. What is the book? How does that register resonate with me? Now? I will say that raised most of the ones on the list were like, nothing but like angsty teenagers and awful relationships. And like, all this stuff, a lot of them are also one of them. They're just like, the random like, here's all the Charles Dickens and all the but yeah, yes, there's a lot about, about, yes. Chocolate, becoming an adult, you know, like this coming of age books, and like channel. Yeah, like adults and children and the balance they have there. So there will definitely be a very interesting read at the stage in life. For sure, I think for whatever whatever book we had picked, I think that was going to be on that last show. That's true, especially from this list. And we would have done like another list of just like, best selling books of 2020 or something like that have been different. But yeah, I am wishing to see because like, if I missed, because some of the coming age books, I didn't like them when I was that age demographic? Sure. So I'm interested to see if I'm, I think it depends on the mood, I'm in that day, I'm either gonna be extremely jaded and be like, this is the dumbest thing ever, or be like, Oh, yeah, Marie 16. It was awful. Right? Like, it depends on my mood, maybe. But I feel like it would be interesting to see how it how it resonates with me. I don't know. And again, I'm not even really, we can pick up this conversation next week. Maybe but like, I'm not even really sure. What the books about really, I don't really have a lot of exposure to like, I could just sort of finish this whole thing entirely. Yeah. So maybe next week, we could talk about that kind of at the end to pre it to get ready for the next week. reading it, but I think it'd be good right. Look, look a plan. Look at us look at Oh, brother having a plan so rarely happens.

1:25:05

Make the notes for this. Why don't

Collin 1:25:10

you go? Yeah, we can like read this stuff. I'm gonna read the summary and I'm gonna give my thoughts on what I think the book might be about. There we go. There we go like that. I will also try to procure it so that I can have it. Also, the literature of ancient soumare that looks exciting. Okay, so Oh, sorry. All right. Okay, fair enough. Sounds good. Fair enough. I love it. And hope you guys Aaron, I hope your voice gets better. Get some tea and honey. Aaron has a need your life right now. Don't Don't talk for the next 24 hours. Save 15 Honey. Yeah, be good, honey. Lots of that. And yeah, you just posted and I love you guys. Love you too. Bye bye.