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Brandon has made a grave mistake for someone in their late 30s and has been having some anomalies with his water usage. Collin flummoxed a locksmith. THEN, we dive into why you should listen to Rammstein. Plus, Brandon doesn’t review Shaolin Soccer. Sadly.

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SPEAKERS

Collin, Brandon

Collin  00:04

Welcome to Oh, brother, a podcast of three brothers. Trying to figure it all out. It's your hosts, Brandon, Colin, and Aaron. On this week's show. Sounds very German.

Brandon  00:20

Hi. Oh, boy. All right.

00:23

It is his other day of the week, isn't it? Yes. Well, yes. The generic time of day.

Brandon  00:32

Yes. Yeah. It's not the same time every. Everything's fine. Don't worry. See? Although I guess I should be saying to you good luck. I was going to say that. No, that's too on the nose and nobody. What all right, going on. They'll catch up here in a minute. But we had

00:52

before. Before then. Yes. Oh, my goodness. No. What's. What's new and exciting?

Brandon  01:04

Oh, yeah. You know? Yeah, it's been very Oh, man. That was, yeah. Well, Susan has been Susan has been very sick. Oh, no. So he had the COVID. Right. Oh, it's been exciting. Wow, I'm pretty, you know, yeah. So we're gonna back this story up here. So yeah, so she got she last, I guess she didn't feel good Thursday, last Thursday. Right. So sort of, like, from then on, was going on. And she went to she did a self test on for I they were gonna say Friday evening time. And then the urgent can do the whole, like official tests for paperwork from school and everything like that. Okay. So I've just been dealing with that. So it's been pretty, it's basically she's had like a fever thing like fever. achiness. And like,

02:03

she's been coughing a lot. So, I've been trying to hide from her. Right.

Brandon  02:09

I might have had like a very mild case, but I never had any fever. I just have had some coughing and some like, ridiculous sinus drainage. It's been like horrendous. I don't like it was delicious. No, not been good. So. So we've been doing this. So we've been here's, here's, here's the first problem that it made. So over the weekend, right. I was like, Okay, I'm going to, obviously going to sleep in the living room on the couch. Right is what I'm gonna do. I'm sleeping here. Well, that's fine. One of the days. I guess it was Saturday, Saturday night, I made. Yes. Saturday night.

02:48

I made a grave mistake. Right. Oh, no. A grave mistake,

Brandon  02:53

I think. grave mistake, right. I was like, Okay, well, she'd been in on the couch all day. And I had forgotten to like, Lysol and off, you know, and I was like, Well, I'm not gonna sleep on the couch, right? By the time I remember it, it was late. And I was like, I'm not going to do that. I was like, I'll just go and I'll sleep in my room up here, right? Sure. I did that whatever. And I was like, You know what? It'd be fine. I'm just gonna, like, pull out some stuff. And I'm gonna sleep here on the floor.

03:23

Now, I don't know at what age it becomes inappropriate to not sleep

Brandon  03:29

to sleep on the floor, but that age is apparently well before 38 years old, because oh my god.

03:41

How's it fit? How you feelin?

Brandon  03:44

It was not it was not so there was bad. I was like, Oh my gosh, what happened? I don't really understand. Right? It was weird too. Because I started I slept on Love Live, turn my laptop on, right turn on some stuff. And I was fell asleep to watch my thing.

03:57

Sure. As one does. And

Brandon  04:01

I woke up one time, right? I didn't sleep soundly by any means. I woke up once with the bathroom, refilled my water, blah, blah, check on her and everything came back laid out again. And it was fine. And then the weird part was sometime around like I don't know 530 or something. I like. I was like, Okay, well, it's very cold in here on this floor. So I'm going to sleep I'm going to move up to the couch and I slept on the couch for like two hours and after I woke up from that I thought my neck was going to come off of my body. Right like I don't know how I don't know what position I was laying in. But I my neck was it was just going to not like it was just broken like I don't know. service work all day because like Just the tension at whatever bizarre angle I decided to fall asleep for that final, the wrong one. And that of course, it was beautiful because every time I would cough would feel like it was exploding loading, right because I have this like massive tension headache from my neck. Any even like a small cough my temples are just like

05:23

Oh mercy. Oh, well oh no bad. So I'm such an old man that like with it. This is

Collin  05:35

what? Okay, just real quick you could you can commiserate with Meghan because she It was cold. So she slept in a hoodie, but didn't have the hood up in the hood rested in between your shoulder blades in the middle all night. And we'll go live literally could not

Brandon  05:56

turn her head left or right. She was just just basically like, I mean that something similar may have happened because I was wearing a hoodie when I fell asleep, right? Because it is cold in the floor like it's cold. So I was preparing myself like okay, well, I'm gonna sleep in this city and I'm gonna do this. So maybe that was something to do with it. Maybe I should have just had a normal sweater with sainthood maybe. Right? I don't know. I don't want to do a test to see interested in comparative analysis at this point. Right. Like, um, I don't. I mean, like, what, for the worst, so bad. I

06:31

would say what's the worst that could happen? But I think we're already pretty Yeah,

Brandon  06:36

we already had the worst that could happen. Yeah, it was bad news. Bad News Bears. So that was, yeah, so I had to overcome that crippling decision that I made.

06:53

Cheese. Well, that's terrible. That is bad. Yeah, it was that good.

Brandon  06:59

Yeah. I don't know what I did. Or what sort of strange thing I did. But

07:02

man, I paid for that one. Megan said she was like, why is this hurt? So badness like you're, you're in your 30s Hi.

Collin  07:18

Well, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You've broken yourself. And it's Susan feeling a little bit better.

Brandon  07:25

I actually feel a lot better. Okay. Because she's, yeah, she's doing good. She's doing better. She's still like,

07:32

just tired, right?

Brandon  07:33

But you know, just from like, when you become unzoom, you're trying to become better. That's just how it works. Right? Yeah. But she sounds better. She's coughing less,

07:42

I think question mark. So pretty good. Overall.

Brandon  07:49

The other weird catastrophe that happened? Oh, gee, we had to overcome k. So in the midst of all of this, on Friday, I was checking outside and there's this thing on my door.

08:01

And I was like, the heck is this?

Brandon  08:04

And it was a thing from the city saying you're using way too much water call us.

08:08

I was like what?

Brandon  08:15

Oh, no. And I was like, wait a minute, what's happening? So I called them up. And they have still had to get up to see Holy Ghost somewhere if they come back. So they had checked our meter. And it was like, the water was just like, running

08:28

somewhere. Right on That's terrifying.

Brandon  08:32

And we had used like, way more water than we were supposed to. And so they were like, below liberal. Yeah. So we had to go do that. And it turns out the I think what it was was that well, my guess I don't know if they've come back to check yet. I don't know how to confirm if they've come back out here is that the the toilet seal was bad. And so the toilets were like, mildly running. Oh, right. Like, not enough to like notice, really, but they were just like, I guess constantly. Run. Okay. Yeah. And so it's, it was just like, always, something always happening. So they were like, Oh, we don't know if you have a leak or what's happening. So I had to go buy toilet parts and call the landlord and he's like, alright, whenever you're both are feeling better. Yeah, I'm gonna come and just like replace the insides of the toilet because they are like a very old style. Like in the tank. It still has the light ball thing, you know? Oh, cool. Like, yeah, he was like, yeah, those ones are actually quite old. And I don't even make parts for that anymore. So I will just replace it for you. Upgrade, but like, when you're better and I was like, yeah, not when you're done. We'll be here and we'll take all these things at City Hall. Man, look, look, we fixed it. And look here. Here's us fixing things.

09:54

That's wild. That's I guess that's better than another did this. Oh, well. Yeah. Because I was out in our front yard, and the guy was coming up and asking where a certain address was. And I said, Oh, it's over there. And he said, I'm just trying to give them a water. Notice we've noticed their bills come up. And usually when this happens, a basement is flooding. And somebody's on vacation. Yeah, I was like, you know, so I actually had the neighbor's phone number, and I called him and I was like, just so you know. And he was like, Okay, we've been, and we're doing some renovations, and they were washing their drop cloths, something like that. And I was like, Okay, sure. It's better. Yeah.

Collin  10:34

But it's all sign. Oh, wait. I got it. I told you. I talked about my phone call from the city about water. This is very weird crossovers that we're having these this this week. When maybe this has been a little, but okay, I got a phone call from the water department. And they asked, Are you currently living at your residence?

10:55

And I said, Yes. And they said, Are you? How many people are living there?

Brandon  11:03

And I said, Oh, you did? Tell me about this. Yeah.

11:07

And they were like, Oh, you haven't? You haven't? I said, Well, we don't have any water usage since March. And I was like, oh, that's several months ago. And they were like, of last year here.

Collin  11:21

Are you kidding me? And then what happened was during during COVID, and all of the people stayed home, and they put the all like everyone's doing home renovations. And so water uses like, apparently dropped throughout the city. And then new homes were registered because they were rehabbing old derelict homes. And so the the city just became overwhelmed with keeping up with this kind of information of watershed stuff that's got water uses, because it was like, What's inhabited what's not. And so she was finally digging out of this and called it so I hadn't paid my water. I mean, I had no water bill, it was zero. It's not I was terrified. She's gonna be like, yeah, you owe, you know, eleventeen $1,000.

12:09

But water usage? No,

12:11

they don't have a way they they legally aren't allowed to go back. And and there's there's also no way of knowing how much water well, yeah, you

12:19

can't. Because you don't know how much do you

12:21

use, you know? Because so anyway, like, well, that's, that's fine. So.

Brandon  12:31

So yeah, so I did all that on Saturday, where I fixed the thing, and then we call them back, because this happened like Friday night, right? We saw it and I was like, Okay, well, dang it. So we call them like their like callback, and we'll send somebody back out to check in see

12:46

if it's better. And we call them and they say we're going to money, but I don't know.

12:54

When, and,

Brandon  12:57

or how to know what the results of this will be. It's for I don't really understand the process from here. And it wasn't really explained to me. So we'll see.

Collin  13:07

Yeah, I haven't. Yeah, no. That's the other thing of like, they can't just look at total water usage. They have to look at rate of usage. I guess.

Brandon  13:19

They were looking at the rate they were looking at the it was not stopping. And they were like, yeah, they're like normally we see this there's a leak somewhere. Something's happened and she did tell me she's like check toilets first because that'll do it and you don't even notice it and it'll just like it'll keep going and you won't really notice it and you won't think it's doing a lot but it's like just using a ton of water. So I was like alright, well I'll start there. While I'll start there and call the landlord and see what's up and she was like Alright, do it very helpful. And city hall the shuttle was so yeah, right they're very nice. That was the very helpful the phone

13:59

so yeah, that was been the

14:02

cheese Yeah. goings on here with all this like,

14:07

it's been very well, yeah, it's in being making any sort of sick or injured.

Collin  14:19

Any other additional, like stressor or inconvenience suddenly is just like that much bigger in your life? Right? Like yeah, like the worst thing ever? Like

Brandon  14:33

oh, well definitely, you know, I think I think it definitely was the toilets because like I pulled I would just replace the because when the landlord said like, they don't even make parts for that flushing system anymore. I was like, Okay, well, I'm just gonna buy the flappy thing and see what that goes because that's normally what it is

14:52

first, like first wrong thing is everything else and there's kind of like metal and hard plastic but the rubber

Brandon  14:58

but he he said it's he said Most likely because they're old, their internal parts are going to be pretty calcified. Right. So he's going to replace those eventually anyway. But when I went to pull up one of the floppy things out of one of our toilets, it just sort of like, came apart. So I'm gonna go ahead and bet that that problem is basically solved. So don't look at it was just lying. It just sort of went, Blair was like, oh, no,

15:29

that's, well, that's bad. Like, like gum that's been chewed too long. Yeah, pretty much

Brandon  15:35

right. Like, it's just

15:41

hopefully that was the fix Cirino for that, and we'll be fine. But yeah, yeah. citement that's what I thought. Yeah. Well, you know, that's a word for it. I suppose. So. Yeah. Right. It's it's something new.

Brandon  16:01

Is something new? That's true.

16:07

Well, I, I have I flummoxed, a professional locksmith? This week?

Brandon  16:14

I have well, that's I either good or, or very bad? Well,

Collin  16:21

I mean, it's, it is a thing. There's definitely I so we have, we have one client who has we do a lot of keys. And we have one client who is kind of outside. It's inconvenient to get to. And we used to have one copy of the key in our office. And then each staff member would pick up the key, go do the visit. And then when they were done, they would bring it back to the office and go do the rest of their visits. Well, yeah, once we start getting more than one staff member, this becomes an issue. Because those become slight problem. Because people who have the visit me The other issue is we come over three days a week, three times a day, sorry, we come over three times a day, seven days a week in perpetuity. So

17:08

oh, oh, okay. One key not

17:13

not good. I made a bunch of keys for our staff. And then we hired more staff. And then we hired more. And I decided I was going to just give every it's the only key that we do this with every staff member would get their own copy for this client so that they just no matter what, typically how we solve this problem is we put out a lockbox at the residence. Yes. But yeah, this was a hit or something. Right? Like, yeah, but this is a care facility for

Collin  17:51

people who have for Okay, so we can't do that. They don't want that.

17:55

I understand. So that's why I have that makes sense. Right? I have to go this route. Is there not like an office there? That is

Collin  18:01

yes. But we come in outside of office hours. So like, I come there before the office that people are in the office, like they're later outside the office? I'm not there during business hours. Okay, so that okay, that is I can't do that. These are all sorts of lots of problems. Yes. Yeah. And the other problem is, is that the doors, the exterior doors lock, unlock at seven in the morning and lock at 7pm at night. And we cannot get in because we need a key fob. And they give what they give to key fobs. Yasmin, right. So. So we have to time our visits are like highly court very strict parameters, right? Yes, yet another reason why we need everybody have their key? Well, it just so happens that down. three doors down from there not I mean, the band aid but from the office is a locksmith. And I said to myself, you know, I have been going to the Walmart kiosk and paying $2 To have a copy of a key made these $3 A key, but I'll be supporting another small business. So let me go down to him. And it's much closer. It's much closer, right? And so anyway, and he could just like what I've been doing, he was like, Hey, here's a key. Can you just slide them in my inbox when you're done? And he's like, yes. So it's been it was great. But this key I don't know. And he doesn't know either. TLDR here, he made four different versions of this key and none of them work. And he has no idea. And this key is also weird seeing because where it's supposed to most keys when you look at them, the the teeth are rounded or kind of have a flat edge. This key has pointed there perfect triangles like a very stereotypical, like what you would do if it was like a play key, where it's where you're like, there's no so yeah, they're pointed like perfectly pointed. was just a very small amount of rounding. And he's like, when he looked at it, the key he looked at me and he meant is this key work like the very first time we made stuff. And I was like, Yeah, this every single time, I said, I got this from the client. This is the one they gave me. This is the copy that they got when they moved in. And then he was like, this is weird. And so he made he made one quote unquote, perfectly copying it. And it didn't work at all. I mean, I tried the client tried I had staff try.

20:30

He then came back and he like recut and measured and did a different up. I've there apparently there there's like the exact copy way. And then there's a measurement way where you're dt where you quote unquote, decode the key to meet spec dammit, yeah, yeah.

Collin  20:45

And then the other one, then none of those worked. And he tried that. And they were like, rounded the teeth and he set different stuff. And then this last go round, he made one measuring from the tip. And then another one measuring from the shoulder, didn't even know there were things on a key, did it two different ways with each of those. And not a single one of them work I came in, I came back and I told him and he was like, Look, if I were on site, what I would be doing right now is taking apart the tumbler internally and measuring that. See what the heck is going on with this. And, and he said I'm I'm sorry, I don't know, I've never run into this before. And I was like, Well, I'm glad I could provide you them some learn something, I guess. And then I went to the Walmart kiosk and made a copy of it and it works perfectly. So I don't that is so strange. Like it's so strange. Like he was like he was telling me he's like, I'm not because I wasn't blaming, I wasn't saying anything. But he got no, no, no, no, no, he's a little like, No, I know what I'm doing. He was my, my, my coffee machine here that I make with the keys. It's a it's an Italian made, it's like $10,000 It's I just had it, you know, SPECT or whatever. And, and then I go to the, you know,

22:05

the Walmart miniPCI with who knows what kind of tolerance that machine has it. It's just like duper interpreter works perfectly.

Brandon  22:14

Maybe that's what it is. Maybe the maybe they'll maybe the tumbler is like old and janky. And the tolerances are looser. And so by making it too tight tolerance, it like doesn't actually click

Collin  22:26

the stuff that this is what I thought it plus additionally hypothesis. Well, my other one is knowing not a lot about keys. This is what my other one is. I wonder I said, will it matter the context of the key? And he goes, I don't know, what's the context of the key. And I went, this is a key to an internal door of a care facility. And, and so it's not like it doesn't have to be super, super duper secure. And, and he was like, well, maybe like the tumblers may be set in such a way where because of the kind of care facility this is that kind of any key will work. And kind of like what you were talking about Brandon of like the tolerances here maybe really wide. Yeah.

Brandon  23:20

And if it's a care facility, like maybe it's one where like, each, each key only opens one door. But the tumbler set such that a master key can just blow up in there and open the thing. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, they're just loose enough where like, the keys can't open each other's doors, but they're designed for a master key to come in and open everything. So maybe it is a tolerance issue in the tumbler?

23:43

Yeah, this is what we kind of landed on. And he was just like, Well, I hope you don't have any more of these come along. Me to No, no, this is this is this is bad. so odd. It was yes. Weird. It was so weird. And like he was he was he was again, but he was so good. He's measuring and he was like 7.5 7.533 like he did that method. And he's like, these are the Exactly. He held up the key and he's like, this is the exact same key and I was like, I don't know what to tell you. It's not working. Something about this is weird. So, moral of the story. I don't really have one because I feel

24:29

bad. What's the moral here? I don't. I

Collin  24:33

really wanted to use the locksmith. And so he made some office keys which we could go into meetly test and that was also weird because he made office keys and they didn't work for the front door but they worked for the back door.

24:47

And he was like very perplexing. Oh, I know. And then he made a copy of his key and it turned out his key opened the back door but not the front door. Fly in the rolling.

25:02

You got this whole dude rethinking his whole life right now.

25:06

And he was like, you know, come to think of it he goes, I've been in this building like 10 years, I've never come through the front door.

25:15

You always parks in the back, it's why. So, yes, it's very odd. Yeah, keys are a lot more than just happens when your key.

25:26

See, I think I think this I think there's got to be something here where

Brandon  25:32

a singular key, if you just use one key all the time it's going to wear at a similar rate possibly to the Yes, mechanism of the lock, right. And then it's going to like work better in one than the other. So if the other if the other door, like. So like if his key doesn't open the front door, it's because the key is like, for flattening out at a similar rate to the tumbler in the back. So the tumbler in the front is the tolerances are so tight, that the key won't

26:03

work. Yeah. Right. If he doesn't use it there. Yep, it all

Brandon  26:08

hypothetical situations. Listeners, I claim no. actual knowledge, not professional. So if any listeners have any comments about this, please let us know how wrong we are.

Collin  26:26

I'd appreciate it. Well, yeah. Because that's what I was thinking too. Because then the other thing is that this is an office building. So keys are constantly being made. And who knows what quote unquote, Master you're making that from, and if it's one that was worn to fit the front door, and you make one with slightly tighter tolerances, it's not going to do right. Like, all of a sudden, it's just like, the bets are off. And he was saying, he said, you know, if I if I had my druthers, he goes, I'm not just saying this, because you know, I would want the business. But given the age of the building and the age of these blocks in these doors, it just needs to be rekeyed. Like it with new tumblers. Yeah, like a fresh start. But trying to do that, when giving everybody their copies of their keys and you know, orchestrating it, that would be holding a big deal. But he's like, that'd be a great place to just like, marker in the sand. With this as the year we did it, other than instead of the law, I don't know. Maybe?

27:34

Yeah, cuz it's like, it's like when you make a photocopy of something, right? So if you if you like, print something out, right, and then you make a copy of that. The image is pretty good, right? And then if you make a copy of the copy,

Brandon  27:51

right? It'll look a little bit funky. Right? If you then make a copy of that copy, now your image, your line, quality is not looking so hot, right? The image might be like, shifted slightly, because it got it's gone through the machine so many times and it like kind of is off center now, right? Like, every time you make that copy, it gets worse and worse and worse. So I imagine that would be like you said with the key like if you you know you're not making a copy of the original key. Yeah, maybe that one's gone. So you had to make a copy of the copy, which now the tolerances are worse, and then they're worse again, and then they're worse again. So

Collin  28:33

interesting problems. Yeah. And I never actually thought about existing before. Meeting me neither. So that's what I told him. I said, Well, I do I really appreciate all of the lessons in and key ology. It's been a lot of fun. He goes they'll try to figure out myself.

Brandon  28:56

Yeah, he's having an existential crisis because he's identity is a sham because he was like, why? None of this

29:02

works. I don't know what's happened. I just imagined him like, clutching both keys being like, they're the same, but they're the same. No.

29:13

Yeah, it's like, weeping at his desk. Why?

29:20

Sorry. Locksmith guy. Yeah. All right. Very nice. Very nice. I've gotten to talk to him a lot. been married for 30 years. He's take it as data, you know. Moments when somebody's making your keys for the 11th time. It's okay.

Brandon  29:40

Yeah, you know, it's fine yeah, so more time for German industrial metal.

29:57

Okay, I don't know Hey, how this happened, what what instinct what I liked or like, watched or something, something happened on Instagram, or all of a sudden it just started to feed me.

Collin  30:12

Images of men on stage with fire and I was like, why wait a minute I recognize those fiery men. Where did that happen? And here's the here's here's my only connection Are you ready for this? This is my only connection to this that I've been able to think about when I interviewed and have been interacting with a person who runs a business with does pet grief cards that you can buy they're kind of like pet grief affirmation cards of like, Oh, I did everything that I could and things like that. Yeah, be lives in Germany. That's my only connection to this in any way, shape or form. So when I be

Brandon  31:05

not sure they also have a new single that just came out. So maybe they're just presence is just heightened heightened already. That is true as announced their new tour for next summer thing, right. Like I've liked I was cursorily.

31:23

That's not a real word. But whatever. Looking at

31:27

just what pops up when you Google their name, so

Collin  31:29

yeah, their stadium. Their new stadium tour? Yeah, their stadium tour. That's over in Europe there. They did their US stadium tour this year.

Brandon  31:40

Yeah. And then they're probably finishing that up. New. Yeah. Single off it or album because they have an album, Ryan new album or whatever. And then announcing the new stadium tour for next week. I mean, that's what it made me it just overlapped perfectly listeners.

31:57

If you haven't guessed already, Colin has just been round signing it up. All all

32:05

week, all

Collin  32:06

week, pretty much. Pretty much. I've had a lot of time I said I wasn't that busy. But I've spent a considerable amount of time in the car, especially the last one spent the last two days yesterday I made a I just drove down really early in the morning in Springfield. I spend all day driving and then I came back late at night. And Monday, I also had plenty of time in the car. So it's been it's been a lot of a lot of till and Blake and the game fire going crazy. And there's oh my goodness, I don't know if you've seen it. That's the other thing of all of the videos that are popping up are definitely of of a time of like, this is you mentioned that they're they're kind of wrapping up their tour or like literally just finished, like a couple of weeks ago. Have all of these videos are from this tour. None of them are older. Right? So yeah, it's also this presence is being served.

33:13

Which is interesting, because then you can go in and you can look at the the stage and everything going on here. Edits. It's a lot Did you? Did you get to look at some of the images of the

Brandon  33:26

it's always been a lot, right. Let's be real. I remember the final time I saw a Rammstein stage show. I mean, like not in person, like on a video, right? Yeah,

33:35

not. Did not go see Rammstein but like the first

Brandon  33:42

time I saw the stage is probably like 2001

33:43

or two,

Brandon  33:49

maybe? And even then I was like, What the heck is

Collin  33:53

this? Yeah, well, that's when Du hast came. Time.

Brandon  33:57

Yeah, it was right around there. It was that album where they blew up big in North America. Right and it was bad. And some of those other songs. I was like,

34:05

What in the

Brandon  34:06

world is what am I looking at this? It is is evolved as a person as a person that had only attended like punk rock shows. Where it's like four dudes and T shirts on a tiny stage. Right Rammstein stage set is like a very confusing thing to be looking at. Right now it's like what in the world there's dudes and masks in like a big shirtless German dude and like fire everywhere and this guy is wearing goggles and why is this dude always running? Like what has

34:44

happened? Oh, yeah, like, well, the guy who's on a treadmill nonstop? Yeah, like, yeah,

Brandon  34:48

that's a newer thing, but he's always done something like strange the keyboard players always been like

34:54

he's always doing something weird. Yeah, like what's happening? Memorial Memorial, watch the video. running or walking while you watch them. He's just in the background and you're like, wait a second, what's he doing? Now he's

Collin  35:08

kind of keep track of him. But the new stage, it's like something out of Mordor like it's just, it's huge. It's huge data, how we're coming up on it. And then the other thing that they do is they also have like six or seven flame towers throughout the crowd. So that in they're all synchronized obviously

Brandon  35:29

has his little like, rocket gun thing that he like, shoots out around in places like,

Collin  35:34

yeah. Oh, and that's the other thing of I was doing something that I haven't done before of like the deep dive into the pyrotechnics of I didn't know that basically till and a bunch of the other guys are they they're the ones who design Thank you. Yeah, yeah, he, he's very professionally trained in multiple certifications and stuff to design all this stuff and pull it off. And he was saying that one of the early versions that he did, he wore a special suit, and they just kind of lit him on fire. And I didn't know this either saw that. And now Now it's turned into this thing where he I don't know if you saw this video of the backpack that shoots like nine flames in a semicircle around him as he's singing.

Brandon  36:24

I saw a picture of that. I don't think I saw that. Yeah, yeah,

Collin  36:27

we're, you know, it's time to the music or whatever. Yeah. He did this, this circled on a topic that that we can maybe come back to after we can figure this out. But of the reason do you know why they do the pyrotechnics?

36:43

Because they like fire? I have no idea. I know. Till is terrified of being in front of people. And he wanted something to distract from people looking at his

Brandon  36:56

audience. Is that why, over the last 20 years, he's slowly looks more and more like a coal miner when he's on stage, right?

37:09

Yeah, he's just like, some of the ones from like, like, where he's just, he looks dirty. Like what does he

Collin  37:15

do? I know. Nothing's but that's, I mean, that's also part of it. Like, the the

Brandon  37:22

the thing. Is that like dirt, dirt, it's like, yeah, it's like silvery. Yeah. What is happening? Like, I don't know.

37:28

He actually said, The reason he does the pyrotechnics is because he gets he's, he gets stage fright. That's really bad. And it gives something to know like, it's filling time because he was like, Yeah, I saw these other people performing. And in between sets. They were like, talking and telling stories. And I was I didn't have time for that. I didn't want to do that. So I just fill it with a lightning. I don't want to tell the story. So I put a flame thrower

Collin  37:56

together. I can appreciate that, right. I thought was very interesting how you get this, this, this personality trait that you can then like really lean into and now is one of the defining features of their stadium tours like it they can only do and that's the other part of this. Because they do that

38:20

they can only do it only two stadiums.

38:23

Only. So now now that you're in the stadium, what else can you do? Right? How do you how do you put that together? And I

Brandon  38:33

it's weird for a guy that has stage fright to produce a show that can only be put on in a large capacity stadium. Odd.

Collin  38:41

Exactly. Where it's like, oh, what were you performing tonight? Oh, I don't know. But a 78,000 people are going to be there. Yeah, I'm sorry. What?

38:58

Yeah, that's yeah,

38:59

that's a bit yeah, that's a weird.

Brandon  39:02

I see. I don't know just because the person that I am, I guess. I don't like it when bands like Senator just like talk. Like, I didn't pay any money to hear you speak. What are you doing? Right, like? Well, like, I know, you have I know there's like stuff you gotta do. You gotta like retune, and sometimes you gotta like changes sermons. And then there's, there's like things that have to be done but I understand this. I accept this but like

39:31

you're cool and all but like, I don't want to hear you.

Brandon  39:33

Right. Here you talk right I want to one that was that punk rock bands that do they they don't talk they just play song. It's over and they go Alright, next one. Boom. Anyway, yeah. Done. You know, nobody's talking to that.

Collin  39:48

Well, that's something if you watch the shows and kind of in between sets and everything, the the very fact that they're described as industrial Music, metal grunge whatever, it that the machinery comes in comes. The whole stage becomes like a machine, right? Just like, yeah, things are happening. Like you mentioned it like there's just so much going on constantly. But it's, it's all. The other thing is this because of they obsess over the perfect timing of the flame throwers of the light switches of everything. It is it just churns as you move forward through their, whatever, three hour long concert or however long it goes of just like non stop. And you get that feeling from the music too. That's the one. It's probably because I've been in a car a lot. But the word that just kept coming into my mind was like this is it's just driving like the music.

Brandon  40:52

No, it is very driving. It's a lot of the songs have those very like driving, like riffs. Right, like, you know, do Hostas dunk the big one because it's like, just very, like, dead. Unlimited. Like, that's just like the whole thing, right? But a lot of their songs have that quality. And it's very, it's just, it sounds very German. It's weird, right to say that, because there's lots of other industrial bands. But like, other industrial bands don't sound like that. Like, it's like a very German thing happening with their sound. That's just a very, I don't know, if it's the it's like a combination of the, like, they do some of that synthesizer stuff, right? It's like, you know, or, and they have like, if that, that, that's the Their sound is also very, like a modern, high gain. Amplification sound, right? It's some very nerdy guitar things happening. But like, that's, in some of those, some of the best companies that make that do that make amplifiers and things that do that sound are from Germany, right? So it just, it sounds

41:57

German, right? Like, it's just like, like, Yeah, well, and

Collin  42:04

that's the other thing too, of, of, even though they're described as I keep coming back to this word, industrial metal, because it fits both the look and the sound of most of their music.

Brandon  42:16

Genre, like industrial genre. You know, if

Collin  42:18

you pull out and you watch the show, it's also kind of like, there are moments where it's an EDM rave, and just like straight techno and mostly that techno is driving.

Brandon  42:29

The other thing that makes it very German, right? Yeah. Is that like, techno EDM vibe? That house music like German house music, right? That's what that yeah, that's what I think of that. Like, very, that's another very driving

42:40

thing though, right? Yes. It's a very driving beat genre.

Brandon  42:47

But like other industrial, I'm not a big industrial guy, right? I know, like three industrial bands. That's it. But the other two don't really sound like Rammstein. Right? They sound different in their, you know, like, Nine Inch Nails is kind of industrial. And I don't like them at all. And like, static X is very industrial. And this sounds similar, but not the same. Right? They have that synthesizer thing happening as well. But like,

Collin  43:17

there's just stuck a very yurman edge to round surprising to no one. But like, Rush tonight. Yeah. What I also get from this that I don't really get from many other bands, I think just in general, is that much like, there. This ties into another comment that I had of the visual components of their show are very full, I'll use that word. Because when you're listening to their music, it's very full. Like there are, there's like, especially that driving and then things just keep getting layered on top of it, and the adding and the things here and there and like, you hit that huge crescendo and you're just like, there are those moments we're going what, what is it? You can't like,

44:07

I have to listen to, like seven. I don't what what is that? Like? I've I've said that probably out loud at least 11 times? Like, what was that? Let me let me skip back 30 seconds and just feel that again. What in the world is your guide?

44:23

It's weird, right? Like, who knows?

Collin  44:27

Yeah, doing plain three or four at the same time. Like it's and that's so that that comes in with the visuals of like their stage show, but also the, the meaning behind a lot of the stuff and obviously, I don't speak German. It's not surprising to anybody. Ah, so doing a lot of deep dives into some of their their lyrics and some of the meanings behind these. And then you go and you watch a music video and you're like, that's not at all when I expect it to be overlaid Okay, with this music, so let me try to figure this out for just

45:10

that's a whole other problem. Like, why? Okay? Well, I'll give you this example. This doesn't have anything to do with the music video. But the one that's like, just oh, it's been It's so catchy. It's been really bad. It's Beverly listening to radio, or as Lilian runs around the house yelling or audio? Because that's how he's been. That's how he says it. Right, exactly. But when I listened when I was reading these lyrics,

Brandon  45:38

I did read the lyrics of that song after you said, that's what you're listening. Yeah,

45:42

I read these. And I was like, This sounds like somebody enjoying listening to the radio. Right? And, and having access to different music and being taken away on a different into a different world. And kind of as an escapism kind of thing. That's really cool, because I know that music does that to a lot of people. And then I was trying to figure out, why does that take away? Granted, he's also singing in German, so it does also sound like dystopian and scary, but also like,

Brandon  46:14

like, it's you watch the video and then you watch the video. dystopian scary. This dystopian

46:20

scary. And then you remember, till grew up in what? East Germany? Yeah, where they jammed the radios. And they literally had to there were every now and then signals would come through. And it was what it was verboten. Again, I love that word. I was like, Oh, I know what that was.

Collin  46:41

They would, they would turn the volume way, way down and just listen to Western songs until it was jammed. And they would have to wait another night or two. And it was very salacious to have access to Western culture and Western media. And now listen, now I get the themes of the video and why it sounds the way it does and all this stuff. And it's one of those things of which this has been a theme before that we've talked about of like appreciating something at one level. And then all of a sudden, it's like, oh, like, this is some time

Brandon  47:15

it comes across that salaciousness Are you talking about the good word because it comes across in the video, some of the scenes like where they're peeking in and that lady scientific laying in the bed with the radio, right? Yeah, you know that you have that whole vibe going on. And then there's the other vibe, where it's like, there's the other part later on, it kind of flips, and they have that scene. And it's basically, like, rip straight out of the French Revolution, like the barricaded Street. And the people like standing on top of the thing, right? That is like a that is visual imagery of Yes. Revolutionary France, right? So you get like, you go, Oh, okay, I understand. Right? Like, like, these are revolutionary things that you're thinking with your little tiny transistor radio,

48:03

in your closet, at night, where the Stasi are trying to find you, because you're listening to like, whatever is on there, but you're not supposed

Brandon  48:11

to be right. So?

Collin  48:15

Yes. Well, again, it was one of those just looking for that kind of takeaway in and going, trying to sort out a little bit of that puzzle of going. This is I had that question of like, Why? Why is this wire that I feel like these are held in two different things of it, the word say this thing, but it sounds like this. Why? Why is that? What's the message to trying to be pushed across about this? And and it was the fact that this radio was extremely revolutionary to people. And they were yearning for that. In a very, I guess, lustful way of going. That's something we need because of where we are right now. Yeah. It made it very interesting. And then you reminded that Tiller is actually better known as almost better known as being just a straight up poet, which is why his lyrics kind of sound the way they do. And they're kind of some of their structure too.

Brandon  49:21

Yeah, right. It is very, like it does read more Pomi like when you read the lyrics, right? They they are more Pomi than other bands, right? Because that's how he is right. And I think I read somewhere that he at one point, this might be wrong, but like, his voice is so distinctive,

49:41

right? That maybe that has something

Brandon  49:45

to do with why it's those sounds the way it is because he's such a deep like, voice you know? Oh, it's not like but he still sings. It's not like a growly gravelly, like thing. It's like singing but like he's like a baritone. So that yes that a thorough base, right? Because he's so broad. And it's not the fake like

Collin  50:06

fake but like what a lot of us do whether it's like the growl or whatever but it's it is it is very baritone. It sounds very operatic at times

Brandon  50:17

when he's Yes. Yeah, I think operatic is a good yeah. Because it's not like the vocal fry. It's not like the guttural like a you know something like that it is just like I am singing very low bass, operatic voice I guess is what it is.

Collin  50:34

Which also has a whole nother layer to this where you have this driving intense, multi layered music and then you have an, again, this this operatic baritone carrying over and through everything, and it's just your sometimes your brain, my brain doesn't know quite what to do with a lot of that. Which is, which is why I listened to yeah, like I said, we just have my text where it's like, Have you ever sat and listened to the same song for two hours straight? on repeat,

Brandon  51:04

I was just saying something like three or four times and I have to do something else because I can't but

Collin  51:10

I, I've yet to really figure out what hooks because sometimes they don't do it. Like they don't hook into my brain. And I know some some, you know, some, there's some sort of music theory out there that would describe exactly what kind of elements to put into this or whatever. But for whatever reason, whenever the lyrics of that song came on, radio, it it just like, I my brain was like, okay, more plays. And again, and again. And isn't one more, can learn more, just go ahead and stop manually hitting repeat, just click the repeat button, and we'll let it let that play in the background while you're writing today. That'd be fun. So I'm sorry, if there are any emails that I sent out today that were heavily influenced by?

52:04

Me Right, it's fine. Don't worry about it. It's okay. So recommend that you can go look at that one. Be good.

Collin  52:16

All right. And then you go back and you're like, because I it's a band band that I've known about for a long time, it seems like and then go back like, yeah, they've been around since the mid 90s. And till is almost 60. And he's still going out and doing all this stuff. It's a lot.

Brandon  52:38

Yeah, and it's not like he's just like, hanging out on stage either. Like I texted Colin in this big, round shine literally has to be the bandwidth, the best cardio in the world. Not just because keyboard guy is currently on a treadmill, just like running for the whole time. I don't know why he's doing that. But like, they're always doing something like really crazy.

53:05

Like motion, like the guitar player often, like marches just in place. A lot forever. Like, I didn't do that.

53:17

Well, and then there's the fact that they're, they're changing. Like, you know, they've got to get hooked up for pyrotechnics, they have to get staged. They're walking around.

Collin  53:25

They're getting some you know, like the ones that one I think this is one relatively new addition, the one where they have to switch guitars because the guitar has a flame thrower built onto the guitar. Have you seen this?

Brandon  53:36

Oh, yeah, that's uh, they've had something like that for

53:40

a while. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, like, they've got to get that hooked up. So there's just you could escalate into that. Yeah, exactly.

53:46

There's just constant motion from everybody. It's not like the like the bass guitarist just gets to sit over in the quarter. Just plugging away like he's, he's also running he's busy sprinting around, and with amount of pyrotechnics. It's just hot. Like, I can't imagine what it feels like to be not just in the crowd but onstage while things are literally blowing up around. Yeah, exactly. I don't Yeah, it's gonna be to

Brandon  54:31

the Colin recommends more Rammstein so if you're not listening to it already. Give it a shot. There's a new album apparently. Yep. Or just listen to her audio on repeats right.

Collin  54:45

Robbie for forever. Yeah, apparently, they're hosting a they have just been approved by the Bavarian authorities for their New Year's Eve concert in Munich. That's gonna be fun.

Brandon  55:00

they'll definitely be a lot of fire at that one. So you get

Collin  55:04

Yes. Because get this, it's where it's in the same open space where Oktoberfest is usually held where like 130,000 people

55:13

attend. That's a lot. Yeah, that's a big, big spot. So, they do they've been temporarily approved until they can provide safety specs for how they're going to keep 150 or whatever. 1000 people safe.

Brandon  55:30

Okay, well

Collin  55:34

I will say that you do have to, depending on the context of where you're driving, just be aware of like, if you're pulling into a potential client's home that you turn this music down before like

55:46

it. Yeah, I love driving. Sherman industrial. Yes.

56:00

So that's our review of this new band hitting the scene. Check flow. Yeah, definitely not.

Brandon  56:08

30 years old, almost. That's the Yeah. Well, I have a surprise review for you. Oh, as well. Okay. And another installment of burnin watched random stuff on Amazon Prime.

56:27

Oh, did it Oh, yeah.

Brandon  56:30

What are we okay? Because I had been watching House, right. But I'm on like, season seven. And it's like, only the first four seasons are like really good. And then after that, it's just kind of like,

56:44

it's lame, right? It's not as cool anymore.

Brandon  56:47

It goes from like a medical mystery kind of genre to just like, like medical drama to just like drama, drama. And I'm not about that life. So we're not solving really bizarre medical mysteries that are totally not era, then. What are we even doing here?

57:06

So wasting our time.

Brandon  57:09

Yeah, pretty much to piggyback off of last week's conversation last week about World Cup soccer.

57:16

Oh, I watched this thing called good Allen soccer. Sorry.

Brandon  57:22

And now also you should watch talent soccer that movies don't

57:26

buy what you want. I watched it have good rivals. I want to read you the tagline here

Brandon  57:36

experienced the rise of the US Men's National Team through their decades long rivalry with Mexico.

57:44

Boom. Pretty Excellent. Right?

Brandon  57:47

So it's kind of the kind of like the journey of the men's national US Men's National Team over the past like 30 Some years Well, since the 80s. Right, so almost 40 years now. of like trying to be on the world stage as a soccer nation, because historically, the US is not a soccer nation at all. And kind of as they do that they it kind of takes that journey of like the growing pains of the men's national team and puts it in context of their insane rivalry with the Mexican soccer team. Right and kind of like, all like through the years, just how it's gone. The big players like it kind of follows like Landon Donovan from the US and Rafael Marquez, from Mexico, who were kind of around that time, like they were the two best players on those teams during that stretch. And there's lots of other people in there that they interview and everything like that. But it's really good. It's like a little three part Docu series, just kind of about the this kind of the men's national team like finding identity. Like I said last last week, like we have to manage expectations, because 2018 We didn't even qualify for anything. Now we have very young team, very talented and blah, blah. And this This talks about that, right? It's kind of the growth of US Soccer from, like, the very first time on the world stage to like actually doing something to the growth of like youth leagues and developmental programs and the under 21 National squads and stuff like that. So, but it's all like painted against the backdrop of trying to beat Mexico because for a long time, like, you know, just couldn't like Mexico. Like no matter what the US did, Mexico just like, beat

59:44

badly. My question for this. Well, it really is. Do they explain where the rivalry came from? Like how it started? Yeah. Okay, yeah,

Brandon  59:59

kinda right. It's kind of like they're, you know, they're this, like, they're real close together, right? They kind of start off the early days of this rivalry of like, wasn't even really a rivalry because Mexico just beat the US and like, but no matter what they kind of like the, from the Mexico point of view, it's like, well, you know, the US has always like claiming that they're better, and they're a stronger country and blah, blah, it's like, but we can beat him at soccer. We have this one thing very, like nationalistic identity thing. And then that kind of growing from there and like, to what the modern day rivalry has become, to kind of culminating in in 2026, maybe isn't the next one. The World Cup is going to be a joint host between Canada, US, Mexico?

1:00:49

Oh, cool. I didn't know that. So, yeah. So it's gonna be a joint hosted thing.

Brandon  1:00:57

And so that kind of the third part is talking about like the next era. So like, parts one and two are like, the rivalry begins. And then kind of the second part is that the 90s to 2000s part where it was, like, really, like rough and tumble, because, like, no matter what, when, during those times, especially in Mexico play the US, it was like, the game was brutal, right? Like, just like aggressive. Everybody, right? It's a very strong rivalry, like, you've got to prove to the other person that you can, like, beat him, right. So it gets a lot of the roots of that. And it talks about, there's like, tons of player interviews and stuff in there, coaches and all kinds of stuff.

1:01:43

It's really good. So it's really, really good.

Brandon  1:01:47

It's like a three part thing. So it's like three hours.

1:01:51

Excuse me. But I watched that today. I finished it today.

Brandon  1:01:55

It was really interesting, right? It was really cool. I really liked I really liked it, it was in it kind of puts into context, a lot of the, like, the rivalry has taken place for a long time against the backdrop of the geopolitical kind of back and forth between the US and Mexico, right, where there's this weird, like, geopolitical force, where, you know, that's been brewing in the background. And then, overtop of that you play a soccer game, you know, so that makes things weird sometimes. And all that back and forth, and especially with like, Trump era, G, A little geopolitical context towards Mexico, right? How the rivalry still happened through that, in how you know, how the soccer was the thing that made sense to people instead of other stuff, where people just shouting all the time. It's really good.

Collin  1:02:53

It's really well done. Well, I'm, I know, sometimes those can get lost in the weeds as far as like, what they're trying to tell or what the or if they're trying to prove a point, you know, about a particular topic. So do you feel like it just kind of was like, No, this is just this is just the story. This is kind of how things are being being presented? Oh, oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah,

Brandon  1:03:19

it does a good job of, of talking about that stuff. And like, because they're interviewing the whole time, they're interviewing players from the US national teams of the years past. And the Mexico national teams of years past. Right? They're having both sides feel nice. So you really get that bigger perspective of like, what this situation meant, and what this situation meant because of this, and that kind of stuff.

1:03:49

But it's all about the rivalry.

Brandon  1:03:50

Like, it's just it chronicles, like how every time they played what was going on? What did it mean? What was happening in the background? What was this like? Blah, blah. So it is really good is really, really interesting. That was really insightful. And is cool to watch, because a lot of the older stuff was like, oh, yeah, I remember that. And now obviously, as we said, was a game show. Alright, hold.

1:04:15

So you also indicating so congratulations. Yeah. Yes.

Brandon  1:04:20

I feel also vindicated because I do remember when I was younger, much younger, I was like, Man, I hate Landon. Donovan. That guy's a jerk. And basically in this he was like, I was a jerk. Right so Okay, all right. I was right. Okay. It was right the whole time. Perfect.

1:04:40

Like, did you pause it and run in for Susan and be like, yes, high five. I was right. Yeah, I knew it. Knew it the whole time.

1:04:49

I remember just not liking him at all. He's so annoying. But he does say it here. He's like, Yeah, I was way too arrogant.

Brandon  1:04:59

Alright, well, these you own it now. out a little late, but that's fine. We'll get you'll get some credit for that one. We'll we'll Yeah, a little bit. I was right, though, just ever ask. Yeah. So what was one thing I thought it was well done?

Collin  1:05:18

Did you go was one of your I don't know, like biggest takeaways or things where you were like, most surprised by it while they were breaking things breaking some of the information down? Well, some

Brandon  1:05:29

of the stuff I just like forgot about or I like I wasn't aware of the context while it happened, you know? Some things like that I thought it was really insightful, when it was the end was talking about like modern, like the next generation of players, right, like the development system in the US and how complicated it is, because a lot of young players in the US that live here actually have dual citizenship between Mexico and the US. Right? And or they're eligible to play for either team. So there's this like, weird thing where

1:06:09

they kind of have to pick what what

Brandon  1:06:14

country are they going to represent on a national level, like, even though maybe they were born in the US and grew up here, there. They can play from Mexico, because their parents were born there whenever, like, the eligibility situation is very complicated. And like how they they tell you about how they handle that. And one of the guys was like, Yeah, I understand that it can be very traumatic, because these are young guys, you know, they are calling them and ask them these questions. And I'm like, 17 don't, you know? He was like, you know, it's, it's, it's delicate, because at the end of the day, they have to do what's best for them. And that's the most important thing. But it is very, very stressful situation. Right? Like, what do you do? And like one of the, you know, they're interviewing one of the modern guys, parents and his dad and his uncle, who he was like they were standing in, in Ohio, right at the de facto us home stadium. Yep. Also, the reason that the US national team always plays in Ohio, partly has to do with Mexico, because they realized that, like, they used to always play them in Los Angeles. And they were like, listen, to every single game we play against Mexico is an away game. Doesn't matter where we play them. We can play them in the US. We can play them in Mexico, it feels like an away game. Because so many of their fans show up to the states.

Collin  1:07:36

Oh, that's Oh, that's interesting. Oh, my gosh, I can't Yeah, that would be weird.

Brandon  1:07:42

Again, so they play and that's why they that's why a lot of their games are in, in Ohio. Because they the Columbus Crew Stadium, they're like, we're gonna use that. Because it's there. And they feel like they also realized that Mexican national team doesn't like playing in cold weather. Hi, we're gonna play in Ohio to try to get an edge on him because they couldn't beat him forever. And so that's what they

1:08:03

did. That's amazing. They schedule their games in Columbus, Ohio.

Brandon  1:08:11

That is like we have to have a smaller stadium. They said, Yeah, we have to have a smaller stadium.

1:08:18

And kind of so that we can better

Brandon  1:08:23

control the amount of tickets that we sell. So that it's not always an away game. No matter what when we played. That's, that's hilarious. It was hilarious, guys. It sounds so goofy when he say it like that was the other big takeaway. That was hilarious.

1:08:49

So yeah. Yeah. Okay. So, so watch. Good rivals, and challenge. Just back to back. So

Brandon  1:09:04

just because because it's, well, it gives you good areas. Good. Really good. Well, rounding view of the state of soccer, think. Yeah, cuz child soccer is relevant to modern times, but it's also a documentary. Oh, anyway, anyway, back to what are saying. The guys parents, the US player who I can't remember the name of now. I'm sorry. But his dad and uncle were talking and they were like, yeah, he's like, this is a little weird for us. Because, you know, we always support Mexico. You know, we support Mexico forever because we're Mexican. And we love Mexico, but he's like, this is about my son. And so we love him today. We're cheering for the US.

1:09:49

I was like, Man, that's a deep, very complicated, emotional

Brandon  1:09:56

roller coaster that just happened in like 30 seconds of that conversation. Right? That's Yeah, that's a lot. That's a lot, right. So there's, there's a lot of, like, really entwined history with all this stuff, you know, and it's just like it can be very. And that is, you know,

Collin  1:10:14

that is an interesting point because you think about that of, of, oh, well, they'll, they'll just go compete for their home country, or they'll go play with this or that. But now, with, when you have a rivalry, and you've got family, and you have friends, and you have connections in both places, and you have your own national identity versus you know, where you are living and working and all this stuff, that's a, that's a perspective that I know, I never really put into the thought of, because, you know, you watch the Olympian athletes and you're, you know, you're like, oh, great, they're go, they're there for that country. Loot next, right? Yeah. Like I didn't, I never put any sort of thought into, what was it like for them to make that decision? To was it easy for them? Did they have pushback? Do they feel guilty? Like, what? What goes into that? Yeah,

Brandon  1:11:08

and again, you throw into that, like, Olympic athletes, a lot of the same way. But he's a lot of these kids playing soccer, you know? They're making these choices. Young. Yeah. Right. Because soccer does things young.

1:11:23

And so, you know,

Brandon  1:11:24

they can you can be signed. Soccer is a weird thing, right. Like, it's very odd, but like,

1:11:29

Rafa, Marquez, like, debuted? He was like, 15.

1:11:37

Right? Like, yeah, like there's,

1:11:42

yeah, and who knows, you kind of you don't even know yourself at 50. And so what kind of outside influences are pressuring or pulling or, you know, like, or just, like, just straight up confusion, and not understanding the full ramifications of decisions? And this, there's a lot that goes into that. Yeah. And one of the dudes,

Brandon  1:12:04

you know, he was actually really is his, his process was very intriguing. And he was like, very mature about it, because he was like, I went, he was like, the US called me and I, you know, I went to the camp, and I tried out the stuff and blah, blah, you know, just, you know, just go to the camp and training camp and do all that stuff. And he's like, I also got a call from the Mexico team. And his dad was talking about how, like, you know, it's it. I told him, like, stop calling my son, you drive him crazy. Because he can't decide, no, this is a tough choice, you know. And so he just decided he went to both, he went to the US one, he went to the camp, and, you know, he checked out, and he saw everybody, and then he went to the one in Mexico. And he called his dad was, like, I'm staying here, this is the one I want to do. You know, hey, for all the reasons, you know, historical, and like his family, and his culture, whatever, it is cool, you know, and he was like, the press, he's like, the media, you know, they made a big deal about it. And he's like, I was kind of mad. And then I realized, you know, it's their job to just taught crap. That's what they got to do. He's like, that's the only way anybody's gonna listen to him. So I just gotta, you know, let

1:13:07

them do it. Whatever, wow. And I'm just gonna, you know,

1:13:12

I'm gonna go do my thing. Like,

1:13:15

that's really, that's a

Brandon  1:13:16

very, it's a very wise, very wise thing to say, right? Of like, it's their job

1:13:20

to just

Brandon  1:13:22

talkable you know, like, that's to have to, and be able to realize that you're that young, like, yeah, guy, they got to do what they got to do. I don't actually care. I'm just gonna, I've got, they gotta be, you know, they gotta, they have to be mad, because like, he, you know, switched from the US to MIT, you know, whenever he was like, they got to do that. They got to do whatever. But it's like, I gotta do what's best for me and my family, too. So, boom. I was like, wow, as a very wise young dude, right there. Proud of that guy. That's, that's where to be right now.

Collin  1:13:57

I don't get that very often. It seems like no, but but again, also trying to realize it hasn't gotten in this is players are getting in this to what, like, play the game. And so at the very fundamental level, there's also that part of this decision going, which one of these is going to let me play the game that I want to play and enjoy the most? Yeah, and what

Brandon  1:14:23

environment do you feel the most comfortable, and that's what one of the guys was that one of the like, recruited guys were saying, he's like, ultimately, he's like, they have to

1:14:31

be comfortable with their decision.

Brandon  1:14:35

And he's like, we can, he's like, I don't and he was basically saying stuff like, I don't, you know, it's like, I don't feel comfortable, like trying to pressure them into decision because it's not. He's like, these are delicate matters. And there's a lot to take into consideration and I don't know everybody's full situation is like I just, you know, he's like, at the end of the day you got they have to do what's in

1:14:54

their heart. And that's all that you can ask them to do. And it's up to them. I was like, well, that's also very nice of you to say,

Brandon  1:15:03

coach, man, that's the sensitivity of the sensual thing. That's like a functioning adult thing to say, that's not normally why coaches work. So that's, like, I know we think about like college football coaches is that like, they don't say things like that, you know, they're talking to all kinds of other nonsense. So like to hear somebody say, like, Oh, that's nice, you know, I mean. And so it was really good. It was really good that I just enjoyed

1:15:38

watching it. I thought it was really nice and good to see. Kind of like the

Brandon  1:15:43

the end, like one of the end parts, he was really good because like, I think it was Javier Hernandez Chicharito, was a very famous Mexican soccer player was like, you know, he's like, at the end of the day, is like, this rivalry is a great thing. He's like, because he's like, the US has become a better soccer team isn't had to play us. And he was like, and he's like, we've become better. We keep getting better, because we keep having to play them. He's like, and that's what's important. He's like, we keep pushing each other. He's like, and that's where he's like, that's where it's good. He's like, we don't get bogged down in those nonsense. He's like, we just want to play. Well, yeah, we

1:16:19

want to win. You know? He said it better than me, obviously. But I'm paraphrasing here.

Brandon  1:16:27

Like Batman and the Joker, right? They need each other. Right? That's next ever it's been it's gotten a lot nicer with. Fair. Fair. No,

Collin  1:16:38

I think that's a good, good perspective to have of like, of having a having a healthy rivalry, does what it pushes you to do try and be better, right? It is.

Brandon  1:16:56

And that's what he was saying. Like, yeah, it's gotta be that, you know. And then, you know, the end part to where they were talking about the joint hosting thing is very interesting, because they were like, look, you know, if other like other regions, he was, he was talking about Europe, right? It's like, if Europe can kind of come together and do their thing. He's like, if they can come together, back then he's talking about, like, the creation of like, the EU, I think, was alluding to, he was like, he's like, he's like, he's like, if North America

1:17:31

wants to become

Brandon  1:17:33

like, a big zone is like, this is like a step in that direction, showing that Canada, the US and Mexico can work together in even as something like this. I think it's a starting point to making North America a better destination for soccer in general, and then potentially other things, right, growing from there. But showing that like, yeah, Europe is like, been the premier soccer destination for a long time. But he was also alluding to, like,

1:18:03

why can't it be North America? Blank. So

Brandon  1:18:09

there's a lot of hopefulness at the end. I don't know how achievable some of those things would be. But it's very interesting thoughts, right? Like,

1:18:16

thinking about that kind of stuff. Like, you know, those are things that I like to think about. were interesting.

Brandon  1:18:27

Things like having better, you know, trading and movement and economic stuff, as a region makes everybody better. You know, you can actually begin figuring out ways to work together and do stuff that is much more useful than bickering and arguing about all kinds of things. So more interesting thoughts, but I just thought the whole thing in general was interesting. And fun, and especially the parts of it. Oh, yeah, I watched that game of cool. I obviously, like those parts, because I'm old and I love things like that, but

Collin  1:19:03

and old, old men like to reminisce about old thing. So look, this is all coming up. Coming to you.

Brandon  1:19:11

Yeah. I like it. I thought it was interesting. Good rivals. Give it a watch or renew their job, Link. There's my surprise view.

1:19:25

Very good. I like it like turnouts. That there Yeah. You can get pumped by Rammstein and then go get pumped for the future soccer go and go and up pumped. You don't have to do something

1:19:44

else. It does. Back to the you know what here it here it is.

1:19:50

Here's here's a tie that will do. It's running. Right. It's the it's the dry it's the running constant is driving and running. It's the running of people on Stage and keyboard player. So that's our main theme through and midfielders builds. Exactly.

Brandon  1:20:06

When running backs. Kick they go.

1:20:09

That's when you start doing like trying to have thematic episodes of like what's the theme? Okay, that's what we're gonna do the shot challenge. Okay,

Collin  1:20:18

well challenge ourselves for the last last two minutes is tied all together in a nice one word I have a warrant Do

Brandon  1:20:26

I like it? You did good.

1:20:31

All caps Friday. Okay. Okay, well, you guys continue to stay healthy and well and getting better. And we'll go from there. Now all right. Love you

1:20:48

bye