varying states of bad
You need to jam out to some lo-fi hip hop. Brandon think Twitter is going super well. We dive into men's soccer and why the US has struggled so much.
Lo-fi hip hop!
Music while you work?
Other music youtube channel
Good algorithm…bad algorithm…
Twitter…dude
Dog whistles
World Cup…
US Soccer fans
Why no striker???
Dying is illegal
Build your building upside down
Weird flex around graphs
Think like a scientist
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Collin, Brandon
Collin 00:05
Welcome to Oh, brother, a podcast of three brothers trying to figure it all out with your host, Brandon, Colin, and Aaron. On this week's show varying states of bad. I'm not sure how long my computer has been playing Lo Fi hip hop in the background, but I'm guessing for many, many hours. I mean, you say that like it's a bad thing? Well, hey,
Brandon 00:32
here's how you did that is not true. At All right? It's great. It is what you need. It's definitely one of the things in rotation for classroom music, right? It's fine.
Collin 00:50
Well, I just was unexpected. It was playing unexpectedly in my headphones when I put them on. That's all
Brandon 01:00
there's a bit of a problem with the, like, streaming version, right? Like either the live YouTube thing or just like the Spotify deal, because it's just like, infinite.
Collin 01:12
Yeah, that YouTube channel, Lo Fi girl. It just, it's literally never ending.
Brandon 01:19
Which is excellent. It's very nice.
Collin 01:22
when I'm, when I'm writing all put it through, like computer speakers, and the kids will sit in the office with me and they'll just be sitting and listening. And we're all jamming out to some Lo Fi hip hop. So
Brandon 01:33
there's your recommended? Yeah, Lo Fi. Sounds good. Sometimes you just I turn on the classroom when we're doing like, group work stuff. Not if we're like reading, obviously, because that's not not everybody likes to have sound when they're reading. It's distracting. Right? But yeah, either that or like 80s like synth wave stuff. Or like vaporwave stuff. That's good. Background music too. Yeah. Or if you're playing Silent ball at recess, Sonic to soundtrack I highly recommend. oddly specific, hey, don't worry about it. It's okay. It's fine. Oh, yeah, I was. I know. Are you uh,
Collin 02:26
are you uh, I mean, obviously you are if you're doing the Lo Fi, hip hop to to stuff, but your music while you work kind of person in some aspects depends on
Brandon 02:36
what I'm doing. Right? Like, sometimes, yeah. If it's relatively like menial, yes. But if it's something on which I must, like, concentrate a lot. No, because I will concentrate and get distracted by the music. And so like, if I do it in my class, like when I sometimes I turn on in my class, and I'm like grading stuff, you know, like, whatever. And I'll turn but I only turn on like, really low, like,
03:08
I'm talking like, barely audible, just enough that there's like a noise,
Brandon 03:15
right? I keep the volume. When I do stuff like that I keep the volume way down. And if I'm doing like big things, like if I'm like, reorganizing my closet, then I just crank it all the way up. And it doesn't matter, right? So it sort of depends on the concentration level. Right? That's it for group work, I'll just turn on the background of the class, like quiet. Like, it's kind of there. But I find that like, if there's like some, like, small amount of noise, like the kids don't get as loud all the time. Right? Oh, it just they're like aware that there's like something going on. So they'll kind of like talk and they'll kind of listen to stuff but like it's does it all some group depends, like some people just are oblivious, but like sometimes it helps to keep the noise level down. Again, if we're doing like a Reading project, I don't turn the music on because it gets distracting. Right, trying to like read and like there's stuff there. So I don't do that. Yeah.
Collin 04:20
I think it depends on kind of music, too. I've found that a lot of the music written for like video games is really excellent for having on in the background, such that it won't be distracting, because
Brandon 04:37
yes, it's gonna be awesome. Have you listened to like those like, like ambient, like Skyrim music things or whatever like that. That would be like the video game music from Skyrim but like, mixed with stuff, and they'll just play that on loops,
Collin 04:54
too. Yeah, well, that. That's that's the day or to take up Time and there's not like, you know, in Skyrim It was big open world players like you could just walk around endlessly. So that means it kind of needs to
Brandon 05:12
get a bit. Yeah, you have. Yeah, it's like there to fill space. You know. So it's really good for that. So yeah, some of those are really good. I do that too. I play some of those sometimes, depending on the day, right, I just now, my work YouTube feed is just full of those, like my recommended page, whatever. Yeah, just like full of that stuff. So just like a, let's listen to this, or oh, let's listen to this. Or
05:36
oh, what about this? So I just find click on a bunch of that random stuff.
Brandon 05:44
That's very nice. Like that. Yeah. Can I told you about the other YouTube channel music channel that I listened to sometimes talked about this before? I think this is on my list of things to bring up at some point ever came up. So here it is. Have I talked to you about my analog journal? No, bro. Okay, listen. This dude's YouTube channel. It's like live DJ mixes. Where he now apparently, he'll just like, be in his house. Or, like, guest DJs it's all vinyl stuff. And they play Crazy mixes like one set will just be like Japanese city pop. Row, or one will be like, Turkish funk. Wild or? Yeah, it's incredible.
Collin 06:49
Yeah, well looking at at a Afro Cuban funky groove saw. Yeah,
Brandon 06:53
that's a good one. i Right. There is some amazing stuff on there. The the mixes and stuff and some of the random like that, first of all, I have no idea where people go about finding this kind of record. I think that dude is based in London, maybe. And then like his friends or guests. People are from all over. And they just do these these mixes and like Afro Caribbean, even records from South Africa. 1972 to 2001. Right, Brazilian Samba grooves. Asian groups like, just, it's there. They're amazing. So that I listened to that sometimes. Because the stuff on there is, it's just amazing. Like some of that music is so incredible. It's like random stuff that you've never heard before. So it's great. Yeah, it's very visually pleasing, because they have these overhead shots of the turntables with the big mixer in the middle. It's very aesthetically, the whole channel is very aesthetic, right? If you notice, the thumbnails like I don't know how all these people have so many plants in that
Collin 08:19
part that was the Dinos and there's lots of plants everywhere. Lots of plants everywhere. It's a little weird. house plants house party,
Brandon 08:26
I guess. Yeah. And it's like it's, it would make so the weird part is, like if it was just all in his apartment, it would make more sense, right? But a lot of these people are other people's apartments and they also are just full of houseplant. So I don't know if eccentric vinyl record collecting and house plants go together. Or what the common denominator is here. It's just a it's just a vibe. Just I mean J vibes music with vibes and like an overabundance of houseplants it could be a thing as person who has like, two houseplants and by I mean, Susan. This is a very Yes, this is an aesthetic of which with which I am not very familiar, you know? So like I inherited the house plant so from like dad was like, oh, no, no, can't can't deal with it.
Collin 09:28
It's got it's got quite a few houseplants going on these days. There's quite
Brandon 09:32
a few but they're always either too wet or too dry. There's like never any well.
Collin 09:40
He bought those. He bought five spider plants, because they were on sale and he was like they I was told they were good for oxygen.
Brandon 09:51
Only our father would impulse buy greenery, right like that's really not maybe dad just means Start Streaming his record collection. And he'll be he'll just fit right in. Right?
Collin 10:06
You know what I think this is? We'll we'll bring this up to him over the holidays,
Brandon 10:11
I'm sure they will, he would just love that so much. He would just be like know our journal, you should definitely check it out.
Collin 10:23
So this is one of those things of was this an algorithmic find? How did this matriculate
Brandon 10:31
in your life, it was one of those things where like, it was definitely algorithmic. And like, it was one of those where like, I was listening to, because I have like, I like to listen to only instrumental music during things like this. Yeah. Right. And so that's what I like. And so I looked for that stuff. But the algorithm recommended this to me. And so a lot of the records are non English. Right? And so that's right. So if they're singing in Turkish, I don't care. Because I'm not distracted by the, it just becomes part of the rhythm. Sure. Because I don't understand it. Right? Or if they're singing in Japanese, or Brazilian Portuguese or something. Like, then my brain does not latch on and try to understand what they're saying. Right? Because no matter what, if I'm listening to music in English, and I hear words, my brain stops focusing on what I'm doing, and tries to focus on what they're saying. And all the time, I can't stop it. So instrumental music or music that is not English, is what I prefer to listen to when I am working. Because I can just kind of get in the zone with the rhythm. And then that's all I need. Right?
11:57
I don't it's less distracting for me to have non English stuff.
Brandon 12:02
So there is like English stuff on this on there, obviously. And I listen to that, like, during different times, but sometimes it's not so bad. But it's just it was just like an algorithmic thing that popped up in my quest to find and stuff like that, to listen to why work. So just to like, have on in the classroom, because like, during planned time, like if, like today, I was adding questions to my test. Right. And so instead of seeing a middle question, like dead silence, I was listening to like, random 80s Retro wave playlist, right? Yeah. Or does? Yeah, as one does, right. It was a very awesome, like, today was a little more, say last few days been like very overcast, right. So like, really, post Rocky, Instrumental Guitar stuff day is what that day was like, but I was, like, very chill, like. So that's what we did today. But yeah, stuff like that. Sometimes I played this bed at work, my analog journal at work to like, during my working time, just because it's like different and interesting. And so it's also very important to play all the Instrumental Instrumental music at work, especially if I've never heard it before. But right, if you're very careful about what is being said. Yeah, so I also don't listen to a lot of Spanish language music at work, just because, right? I have a lot of students who speak Spanish, and if I'm not paying attention, and they just like, say something that's like, very inappropriate, which, you know, could happen if it's like a bomb or something. Like I don't want to be like, throwing that out. So we gotta we gotta be calm with this. Yeah,
Collin 14:02
yeah. Well, and we've given how some things are, it's like, well, you just can't risk
Brandon 14:07
just can't risk it. Yes, yes, that's true. Oh, which is which is good, which is another reason why sometimes stoner rock still makes it the my play list, because that instrumental stuff is just like, blues riff with fuzz. So it's like, Fine, whatever. Ah,
Collin 14:27
speaking of the We recently talked about a where certain phrases make you think of certain things. I just It just happened. I said risk it. I for the biscuit. No. Yeah. risky for a biscuit. Yeah, that that's the s it's almost every time that I say that word now
Brandon 14:50
happened to me again the other day and I was gonna bring it up and I forgot what it was. That Susan said
Collin 14:59
but Yeah, back to back to the topic of, of, I think that we as much as damage algorithms can do for many particular reasons online and in social media. Man, whoever's writing the the YouTube, like music recommendations or even on like Spotify those algorithms, and I guess that's because it's it's very known. I mean, music isn't really formulaic, but how things are categorized, and artists and how they're grouped. Like, that's a very easy and very small problem set, as well of like, oh, you listen to this person, this other person is categorized in the same ways you may like them. That that is one of the really neat things about the interwebs that we get is those kinds of good recommendations.
Brandon 15:57
Yeah, that's true. Because like, did I know that I liked like, Japanese funk music? No. But do I now? Absolutely. Right.
Collin 16:09
As it turns out, friends
Brandon 16:10
are like, there's several, like really just random things that like I would never would have heard ever. And like it brought it up. And then now it's great. If I can remember the name of this don't know, I won't be able to remember it's on my work computer. There's like some bands like that. There's just like, some artists or something where it's like I there's no way I would have found this normally, right. But because it just like showed up here. And I was like, Oh, what's that? And I clicked on
Collin 16:47
it. Yeah, that is quite, quite good stuff.
Brandon 16:56
This is what makes me angry about like, the, like the YouTube shorts and like tick tock things, right? Because it appears to have absolutely no. Just screening at all. It's just like, completely random. The YouTube shorts, specifically because I don't do tick tock, right. But every once in a while I investigate the shorts just because I want to know what in the world is happening. And it helps me understand what the heck my kids are talking about how to time. But there's literally no rhyme or reason for what it's going to show you in a given day. It will just show you just one day, you'll just get like a whole bunch of like one thing. And then like, a couple days later, it'll be like a whole bunch of something else. And it's like, there's no reason. Like, some it's been showing me like, everything from like, you know, hip hop interviews. I don't know. Men's Fashion get ready with me's which are that they're terrible. By the way. That's a whole other thing. I don't know what's happening with that, like, Sunday. It's like, giant dudes working out. I mean, these are clearly not tailored for me, because none of these things are what I want to look at. No, right, like, right you know, it's just like, it's just really, really strange. Like I have no clue what it's doing, or how it propagates this list of stuff to show you because it's just the most random stuff ever. And I'm sorry means get ready with me. I am not carrying a tote bag. This is not happening. I don't know what this is. But I'm no thank you. You can try to tell me tote bags are fashionable all you want. Don't care. Get it out of here.
Collin 19:04
Yeah, I'll call the messenger bag. I'm out for that. But not a bag. can still
Brandon 19:12
okay, three being a grumpy old man now since I'm old man now but like know what is what are you doing? Also, why would you wear like oatmeal sweater and light tan pants? Why when it no you can't do mono chromaticism. It's not called
Collin 19:35
No it's all the rage now it's all the
Brandon 19:37
rage, which is it's upsetting. Because I can't I don't like it. I think it looks weird. So I can't I don't understand why you would want to do that. Like wear taupe on taupe on taupe with brown like when we do.
Collin 19:56
It's really more of a commentary of our current social environment. And the representation of monochrome anyway.
Brandon 20:06
No, it's I mean, it might be if you're like, I mean, nowhere near these videos you say the word Bauhaus or anything like that, so I'm not sure.
Collin 20:15
Well, I don't think they would.
20:18
You might never know. Anyway. Yeah, I
Collin 20:28
think I do like I do like this. I can this algorithm, so they're good. They recommend very good. YouTube videos for music ones are good music ones are good. The YouTube ones whenever you start venturing off to that, what do they say? Or how many? How many steps away from finding Hitler or whatever it is these days? It's not
Brandon 20:52
Elon running Twitter, it's like one step. Boom, there it is.
Collin 20:54
Oh, look,
Brandon 20:56
look, look, he's just trying to figure it all out, man. While he's doing just Yeah, it's, it's what it is, is it's an extremely hard push back between society deciding they don't like racism, and all the racist people being like, what's not fair? What's not cool? Come on, guys. I thought we were all about free speech here. And then that's what happens. Like, that's it? No, no,
Collin 21:25
no, no, that's not how this works. Like, listen, I'm with it is very annoying.
21:31
For me,
Collin 21:33
the you just said the phrase free speech. And how that is, has become such a dog whistle for various parties and affiliates as it does, where it's like, I have to when somebody says the word free speech, my brain goes, I like free speech. And then I have to take a huge step back and go, What do you mean by you trying to communicate with that phrase, the other one, the other one that's really frustrating to me is when people start talking about the other word that's been co opted in various aspects. And it means it's so layered with things now. It's just a simple word, freedom. But there are groups of, of people that when they say the word freedom, they don't mean the same thing as the other group that says the word freedom. And so it's very easy to sit there and get your head nodding along going. Ha, yeah, no, I agree that, and then you take a second to look into the person speaking and you're like, No, never mind. Yeah,
Brandon 22:33
this is where it gets real gray and, like, really gross and ridiculous. Like, I don't want to go into specifics here. But like, okay, you know, just like, these very odd things about like, like, Oh, well. Why are you mad that I said this about you? But it's freedom, like, no, no, no, stop. Like, you're like, yeah, when one side is saying, I have the freedom to be included. And the other side is saying, I have the freedom to not include you. Right, this is where this is where the problem happens. Anything here, right? Again, I like to say things like, imagine if I would, like never speak to you again, if you said that you'd like to catch up on your hot dog. Right? This is like, this is the you know, here's your example, right? If you say I like ketchup on my hot dog, and I say I don't like ketchup on my hot dog. Right? Those two things are just, you know, if they just exist, you know, it's fine, whatever. But when one person starts telling the other one, how they have to eat their hot dog. This is where it gets all wonky and strange. Because when people say like, I have the right to not eat ketchup. And the other group says, No, you have to eat ketchup. Like, what? No, wait, but what? Yeah, well,
Collin 24:15
I don't know. It's very interesting to see and reflect on that and having I mean, I'm, I'm, I'm pretty a political most days in life. But I don't have a long history of being deeply involved or being aware of national or global politics. I don't have a whole lot to compare to. Because it's very interesting to me when people start talking about how things have become more and more polarized.
24:44
And that lack of there's people discussing in
24:50
chair about their concerns for the lack of civility on both sides, right. That's the other thing and this is not a both sides is a kind of argument. There are literally people who on both sides are all sides of the aisles complained about the lack of civility. It makes it it makes it well, it's hard when the issues get much more complex, then we catch up. Right then hot dog toppings. Yes. Like I said earlier, if you have a group that's going, I have a right to be included
Brandon 25:15
in society. And the other group is saying, I don't want you anywhere near me. Right? Like my belief structure is such that you are offensive to me. For whatever reason, yeah. Like the fact that society has gone, that's not cool. Maybe that's not great. And there's like this really big pushback. I'm like, you can't censor me? You can't tell me what to do. Like, right? I was just telling you that maybe you should. You should like be more inclusive. No, you can't like, you know what I mean? Like, there's this huge pushback with like, like, society itself is saying, like, maybe this is not great. And the people that are like, fervent believers in something like that get
26:09
very distressed. Because they're on the other end now.
Brandon 26:17
Right? Like, if for ever, you've been on the end, where you are societies with you, right? You've been on the, quote, winning side, you know, and then all of a sudden, it's feel it feels to you overnight, that everyone has changed your mind. You get defensive. Right? That's yeah, well, and
Collin 26:41
then you, then there's the am I am I in the majority? I'm not in the majority. Am I in the am I still in power? Am I? What do I what do I have control over? Which I do not have control over? Yeah, it gets very, does get muddy? Very, very quick. It is. Yeah. So I mean, I'm glad I'm not in charge of keeping civility amongst the club does that? Yeah. You know?
Brandon 27:13
Yes. Right. Like, there's just lots of examples of that. And then, and then like, you're also not allowed to, like change your mind. Like, if you were one way before, and you change your mind in a different way. Now, people will, like, make fun of you because you were the other way before, like, you're not allowed to change your mind. You know, which is also odd. Like, if you, you know, do something people are like, No, you can't do that, because you did this before. That's, we're not like a static system. Right? We're not gonna sit here and be the same forever. We're doing something we're trying to change things. Right. Yeah. And making
Collin 27:55
and that, that, that change that that process takes takes time and take some understanding of, of what, because that is scary to be part of in the midst of change going, Okay, well, what was my role? I think, you know, kind of what you were saying they're like, Well, I was, quote, unquote, in power in the majority. Now, what's my new role? Or what does it look like for me now to be in this, this world as things are changing it around? And for various reasons, it's easy to get
28:24
defensive or lash out. And things I think that we're that term, kind of the imagery of clinging to power kind of comes in, and all the fallout that happens from that.
Brandon 28:38
Yes, yeah, I agree. Like that. The, it feels a little bit last gaspee for some of these things. I hope that's true. I don't know if that's true or not. But I like to hope that it's true. Like, I like to hope that like, some of these, like, just really overtly like racist things are just like, the dying breath. Right. Like, I would like to think that it's probably not true, but you know,
Collin 29:11
you never never know. Fortunately. Yes, it's true. Anyway, away from this.
Brandon 29:24
Alright, so away from that controversial topic, too. I have thoughts on the World Cup. Right. Ready, now. Not what you might be thinking. Okay. I don't really have
Collin 29:36
any who knows? Who knows World Cup. Okay, here we go. We're transitioning. I
Brandon 29:41
want to I want to talk to those us soccer fans out there. I want to talk to you for a minute. Hey, listen. I know. Maybe you're new to this. Maybe this is the first time you watch the World Cup. First, I'm happy This is exciting. Welcome. However, before the World Cup started we just finished like this first knockout round, by the way, so it's been going on for a little bit now. Yeah, before the World Cup started I read all these things like us predicted to go far in World Cup how far can the US Men's National Team Go? All the because like player biographies and stuff, and all about the strengths of the US Soccer Team. Cool, guys. What? What are you doing that now that you've had your dose of realism now that you've watched the World Cup for the first time and watched the US man just barely make it out of the group play, which was I was surprised, made out of the group and then just get demolished? By the Netherlands. Come on. Right. Guys, we have to talk about the severe like they the United States has suffered for a very long time, right? Since at least 2010. From a lack of a striker, like a true number nine player, right? So in soccer parlance when we think about these things, like numbers, the jersey numbers are not just arbitrarily put out there. Right? It's not like basketball, or like, I want to be number 47 Sure, whatever. Right? They have a role to play in the system, right? Like a number one is the goalie. Okay, the number two, right has a job the number three has a job right? These are like your backs, right? Your wing backs and your center in your center backs. Right? They have a role to do. Depending on your system that role changes slightly, but there is a job right you have an attacking back and you have the wing backs that push forward you have the midfield you have usually a guy who's like a real defensive minded player. Do you have that midfielder that's like pushing and aggressive and overlapping runs with the wing backs and these kind of things, right? Number nine role is the striker. Now, that's different from the forward, right the number like you know, like 10s it can be a forward 789 Those are generally your forward roles, you know, there a lot of these guys that we watch play soccer, the ones that we think like, oh my gosh, they're so amazing. You're Ronaldo. You're Messies you're like if you're a US soccer fan, Christian Pulisic right. Not a Number nine. Okay, they're dynamic players. They can move the ball really interesting there forward players. Fast dynamic ball movement, really good shooting. But they're not striker. Right in the US has not had a striker and a striker and number nine player is a guy that is making runs into the box all the time, harassing the goalie getting on the intercross is getting a pass with his back to the goal and holding up play and then laying it off for one of these other forwards to get the team moving forward. Right big. Usually traditionally pretty strong, big guy. Tall, heads the ball and like crazy. If you watching the World Cup right now. Look at Olivia Giroux from France. Right? That's your like, traditional number nine player. Right? Somebody like Levandowski from Poland. He's kind of that player too even though he's number 10 on the national team. That's fine. He takes that role Brazil Charlson, dude, number nine all day, right? Neymar dynamic exciting. Not a striker. Right. He's like a wing player, a forward, center forward something like that. Not a striker. You need this person on your team. Because you cannot get enough chances at goal if you don't have somebody doing this. Right? Even if that even if in doing that role. They're not scoring all the goals. They are going to create more opportunities for everybody else. Sure. Right. That's their job. They're always going to be moving. Like if you watch France play, or Brazil play like there's always somebody running at the goal. Yeah, like even if there's like some just random whiff of across the balls getting flashed across the net. Somebody is running at the goal. To try to get a piece of that ball, and the US does not have that at all, ever
Collin 35:11
is that a? Why is that? Is it? I'll ask, is that a is it? Is it a hard position to fill? I'm just gonna think of other like options for why that lacks is it because the leadership doesn't know what a striker should do? And I don't think that's a position.
Brandon 35:30
A really experienced coach, it's a really hard role to fill. Okay. Right. That is a very specialized role. Right? It's a it's a tough role to fill. Because you got to have really good instincts for where to move. Because in soccer, it's like basketball kinda where, like, if that striker is moving somewhere, you defenders are going to go with him. Hmm. And so like, if you watch France play, I just watched it the other day. It's why I'm talking about this so much. Because like the France France is big, like exciting player right now is Killian and Bombay. But he's a wing. He plays outside. Right. And he's so fast, and he's so down and talented. And he's so dynamic, a striker. Right. He scores amazing goals. But he's not playing that. I'm gonna get in the goalies face. I'm gonna bully people roll, right? He's a dynamic ball moving guy. Which is fun to watch. Right? Obviously, we like that. When you watch that you watch them play when Giroux makes runs. People follow him. And now Imbaba has more space to move. Right? Because they know I can't leave him alone. At all. If he gets near that ball, it's going in. Right
Collin 36:53
keeps the other it keeps them on their on their toes basically adds complexity to the the strategy that the other team is having to do. Knowing that there's a heavy striker, a skilled a good striker out there. Yeah, we can't risk. But so what does that that pulls their resources away. And they have to play a little bit more defensive constantly. Exactly. And they can't Yeah, okay.
Brandon 37:16
So a lot of times you'll see these goals where like somebody and in soccer you need to watch like off the ball, the movement that's happening will kind of clue you enter it because somebody has run somewhere. And now there's, there's open space, because the defense is torn between do I stay here? Sure. Because now if you're like if you're playing France, do you if you put two guys on in Bombay, now somebody else is open somewhere. Right? But you also can't really leave just one guy on him because he will beat them. Right? Right, he'll go around him is so fast. It's not even funny. So you really are stretching the defense. Right? And so that's, that's the hardware in the US does not have that dynamic play. Right. Now. I will say, this year, the US was the second youngest team in the World Cup. This is this is good news. Right? Yeah. Cuz especially because last time, we didn't even qualify, because we were so trash. Okay. Was that a bit of a gap? Right. A lot of people retired. Right. A lot of people just retired because I've been playing for so long, right? Yeah, that big. There was a huge, really strong, and they all kind of were the same age. And they all kind of stopped playing at the same time. So there was a bit of a vacuum. Makes it hard. Made that makes it real hard. Right? That makes sense, right? It's totally, this is a normal thing, right? It's not Yeah. So like the fact that we're such a young team. And we did we show it fairly good in the in the group play, right. And then we made it to the first Knockout Round. That's pretty good, right? Yeah, that's fine. But these people were like, Can the US men make it to the semi finals? No, no. Why? Now?
Collin 39:19
Who have you been talking to? Were here what I've been watching
Brandon 39:23
like, what right? What are you looking at me? I'm like, I understand if you watch them beat, like some Copa teams are like some CONCACAF teams, right? Like, oh, they beat Haiti. But yeah, but have you seen you know, Argentina? And Uruguay? Have you seen the Belgians play? That's a bad example. The Belgians are really bad this year, but like, have you seen some of these other teams at all? Like, that's not not going to go? Well? Yeah, they don't match up.
Collin 39:58
Well, yeah, and that's one of those That's that is a, like you started off saying, this is, this is interesting like welcome. Hi, glad to have you here. Let me explain a little bit about the current state of affairs.
Brandon 40:14
It's really weird to write because it is in Qatar. And you can't have it in the summer because it's literally 12 billion degrees. And you just all die of heatstroke. They're playing it in the winter. But soccer is a winter sport. Right. And this is a thing that I think is lost on a lot of people, right? Like, because like English Premier League Soccer is happening right now. So this World Cup is also weird, because like, the teams haven't really had a lot of time to practice together. Because it's in the middle of a season. So like they had a break from the European season catalog where like, all these people are playing. And like say, Oh, I'm timeout. We're gonna go play this tournament. Hold up that go back. There's all these. They've all been playing at their club teams like not with all these other people. That's why the first round looks real weird. Right? Like, was like the first round the game. Some of them were just like really bad. Like, why? Oh, they've been playing together for like two weeks. Okay. This makes sense. Oh, no. Real bad. So is it a it's a strange time? Sure. So that's a weird thing. But it also Yeah, it's just I went through the ASIC. US fans are very enthusiastic, right? US Soccer has a reputation for being very, like never say die. Right? That's kind of their rep. Right? Like, we're not giving up. We're going for it. You know? Gotcha. Yeah. Which is good. Right? It's a good quality to have. But if you don't have don't have that guy, it's up there just causing havoc and like, getting goals out of nowhere. It's really hard to win a tournament. I mean, Spain got knocked out. They got beat. Morocco beat them on penalties just the other day, because they don't really have a number nine player. You know, like, don't they like, Spanish style football is very, like, pass and possession heavy, right? But there's not always that person that give the final pass to right. They've had trouble with that for a long time. Having like that number nine guy so they won a World Cup before with basically no number nine. But it was dicey and they had to win a bunch of penalty sheet has to do was not easy. Yeah, they didn't make it easy on themselves. Right? Like they won in 2010. But like, they had Fernando Torres. Fernando Torres. If you're listening. I know you're totally listening. Big fan. Okay, big fan. I know not on good form. And number. strikers are also notoriously streaky. Right? They're a player that like, they're either scoring like zero goals, or 10s of goals, right? Like it's, it's kind of how it's just how the position seems to work, right, you're on. And you're like really feeling it. Or you're not. And you're just like a little slow, and you're kind of missing. And it's like a whole thing right? Now, in 2010 Torres was going through like this period, where he was kind of like in the law part. And so he was there, though he was there. He wasn't really, you know, he didn't have a good as tournament as he probably should have. But he was still there in the games and still, like, they still had to respect him. Right? He would still be up there. Like slashing it goal. And so the defense still had to be like, I can't leave him open. Cuz that's not going to be good. Now we've at least got to keep a keep our finger on him. Yeah. So we don't have like that guy that can do that in that role. Like we have some people that are trying right, but like, if you watch the very final third of us possession like good ball gets up there. And Christian Pulisic gets on the ball and he tries to do something like really cool. And then like there's a defender His face has. There's nobody in the box. Nobody's running at the back post from where he is. Because if somebody was he would have an outlet to go somewhere. Right? Yeah. When the defenders closing them down. If he just pops that ball over their head. Now they're in trouble. Because there's a dude over there. Right or he kicks there he like passes the ball around them. He even makes a shot on goal just shoots it, knowing that there could be somebody up there to either hit the rebound, or if it takes a deflection get a piece of it. Right. But there's not that guy running it the net. We don't have it. And yeah, it is a very skilled position. I think it's just because we don't have
45:21
a person. Right? It's hard. Is that to do that? Yeah. Yeah.
Brandon 45:29
What, and everybody's been watching Ronaldo and Messi for 15 years, and they just want to be that guy. And they don't want to be.
Collin 45:37
Right? Well, I guess it's the it's the some positions have more of the fame and glory associated with them. Right, as opposed to others. And so I think that kind of does
45:53
a disservice to those kinds of
Collin 45:58
skills when they see oh, I want to play soccer. What do they mean, right? They mean, they want to go and be messy. Right? That's what they mean. They don't want to be a quote unquote, background player, or something like that. Who doesn't get the limelight? Which,
Brandon 46:15
yeah, I mean, well, that's the other problem. Right? The striker is the guy that scoring a lot of these goals, right? But it's not always pretty. It's Yes, yeah. And the last touch on the ball, taking the header from the cross, right. Something like real crazy.
Collin 46:31
Also, why? Oh, man, I know that. The US Soccer has been beleaguered for a while. Why? What could be done in your eyes to help elevate soccer to a more on par with with with other sports that Americans tend to seek after? And admire?
Brandon 46:57
I don't know. It's just one of the things like there isn't that? The short answer is there's not as much money being spent on soccer, because it's not it doesn't make as much money, right? People aren't shelling out to go watch the, you know, Portland, whatever timbers, they are going to watch play. They're paying like, stupid amounts of money to go watch the Kinsey cheese play football, or something like that, right? So there's just like, not the audience is definitely growing. And it's definitely way less niche than it used to be. Right? So it's just that like, the pipeline of getting players interested at younger levels. And then like, playing in college, or whatever, in developing and then playing in like, leagues, because now like before, like, we had a pretty good team, but like, you know, 10 years ago, most of those guys were playing in MLS. That was it. Like, they were not going to Europe, which is where like the bid, those teams are, like, the benchmark teams, right? English Premier League series on Italy, the, whatever the Spanish league is called, or the Bundesliga, in Germany, those are like the top tier, like, the best players play there. And so now, there's actually quite a few American people that play over there. So like, that's been helping to like because that, like, they're good enough to play there for talent is developing, like, they're getting better, they're doing less stuff. So like, you know, that development from younger age, like getting people interested doing that stuff, like being able to compete with some of these people and other like, in these big leagues, you know, like literally Big League has been helpful, right? Because you they have been getting better, right? There's a development thing, and it's been improving, right. But, you know, it's not a fast process, obviously.
Collin 49:06
No, you're right, with the like, little bit of exposure, that making it this far, the World Cup can do have that can only encourage more people to have more interest. Right, definitely and seek it out and part and start getting into that, that development, those development programs. So that in another five years or however long like we're that much
Brandon 49:30
further ahead. Yeah. So it's just yeah, this is one of those things, those big slow building processes and and of course, right it's always hindered by the fact that like, bureaucratically, like Oh, we didn't get these results. We need to change coaches. We need to do this different blah, blah, and you're not getting like, you're always getting the time to like fully go through things you know, they don't always listen to stuff More like we want results now. It was it used to be. And so they were like, do all these crazy things like guys, that's not helping, right? Like, you can't just, you can't just leave these dudes out of the field forever that have been playing for, you know, 20 years, like you can't do like they haven't. We need new people. Right? We got? Yeah, you know, what's
50:19
the what's the plan for that right wing? And that is that is that is hard. And again, one of the many things I'm glad I'm not in charge of, of having that discussion with these star players with big players of, of how do you manage them going? Okay, like, we need to have that discussion of
Collin 50:42
how much time you don't have with us anymore, right? And what that process what that what those steps look like of finding their replacements, but then not just finding their replacements, but then getting them into the team, getting them trained acquaintance with everything, and then having the conversation with that former star going okay, your time is up.
Brandon 51:04
Even though you might not want that. Oh, yeah, that's another whole deal. But like so, yes, that was just my small rant about over eager expectations for men's World Cup soccer. Why? Where have you been? I don't
Collin 51:25
know. I don't know if you know this or not. But the US is amazing at all things all the time. So. Okay. Don't Understand.
Brandon 51:36
Yes, that is the perception by many.
Collin 51:41
Because it's reality.
Brandon 51:44
Well, it's someone's reality. I don't know.
Collin 51:49
That you would phrase it like that. I don't want to steer it.
Brandon 52:01
Is I'm sure that there's some people out there that think we could just like excel at cricket? It's not true. Okay, don't get these delusions. Don't be delusional. We, yeah, yeah.
Collin 52:20
Of suddenly just being good at stuff. Yeah. had that discussion with, with Lillian today. About she was, she was personally feeling frustrated about not giving 100% on some of her homework assignments. And that the teacher had said that maybe she just needs to, you know, slow down, that big word is the big thing. And there was some, there's some frustration about that. And I could tell there's some big emotions in there and had that same discussion of, we're not like, this is why we're learning this. We're going through this process of when we don't know everything, and that's okay. And we can try and get better. And we can work on it. And that's actually what we're what we want to see is the working and the focusing and the retooling. To try and make progress. It's not about the grade at the end of the day, it's what did we do to to change the ones we learned about something? We go, I'm not good. I'm not as good at this as I thought I
53:28
was. Am I going to
Collin 53:31
immediately, throw in the towel quit walk away? That's certainly one way to address some things, or am I going to go okay, well, what does that mean for me now? And what am I going to do? And how am I going to change about that? So? Well, we are having those continued conversations.
Brandon 53:49
That's a hard one for Latvia. We talk about that in sixth grade, as well. Right. Right. Yeah, I always like, I play it up, like really over dramatically. And I'll be like, things I've actually heard from sixth graders. And then I like, do this whole big spiel about like, this is so hard, I'm quitting. I'm never gonna do anything like, Guys, what? The sign in the classroom that says dying is illegal. Now, this is because a couple of years ago, my class was the most dramatic group of individuals we ever hoped to encounter in sixth grade room. And they would always say things like, this is so hard, I'm going to die and I started telling them, that's illegal. You cannot do that. It was mostly just like, what? Praying and try, like don't just give up when it gets slightly difficult, right? Yeah, that was that's what they would do. They'd be like, it's so hard. I can't live anymore like Quit so I do have a sign that says dying is illegal because they will say that all the time like rooms gonna die. Have a lot of signs in
Collin 55:10
your, in your classroom
Brandon 55:11
I know it's really important to have signs your classroom. A lot of teachers have like, like useful signs. I have signs that say things like dying is illegal and be a winner not a whiner. Words is hard, right? I needed one today saying I had to write on the board. Don't eat the science. Because we do that thing where we build the buildings out of the marshmallows and stuff. Yeah, I had to make my sign reminder. Don't eat the science. not healthy. Okay. It's been in multiple people's hands. It's not, no.
Collin 56:00
To save it for later in time, toasted, toasted heat, treat it kill the germs,
Brandon 56:05
and to be fine. That's what you should do. I was telling him to tell them. Like I was like, when I handed them out the first time I was like, right. So don't eat the science. Number one, you won't have any building materials. Number two, a large portion of these have been on the floor. Everything's fine. Only one person was hurt. But it's not serious. They're okay. They're like, what are you doing? Sorry, what? I just spilled them when I was counting them. It's fine. But like ice overplayed it because I want to see their faces. Because it's hilarious.
Collin 56:44
How did how did the bill go this year?
Brandon 56:48
Ah, we'll find out tomorrow. Oh, oh, it's just varying states of bad currently, like, I don't really know. It's weird. Like the progress that happens like some years like a bunch of kids do like really good this year? It's like, yeah, I don't know. Or problem solving is not quite as up there as maybe it ought to be like, we'll see how it goes. We'll see how they the marshmallows do shake. Because they're sitting out overnight, they get like, hard, you know, they kind of start crossing over. Yeah, so that helps. Kind of with the rigidity of the structure. So some of the groups we talked about, like, you know, you don't have to build your building, standing up. Right, like, can lay it on its side. And they really, oh, you want like that kind of blew their minds, like one of them. Like they're building, they're just kept falling. And so I grabbed it, and I turned it upside down and just held it there. And you could watch it sort of like accordion itself back out. And they're like, What are you doing? I was like, fixing, fixing. And they're like, I was like, here's what we're gonna do. You are gonna hold it like this. And then the other people are gonna see where the weak pies are and fix it while you hold it upside down. And they're like, we can't build it upside down. Like why? Why not? Why not? And they're like, oh, big. Upside down. Like, yeah, it's fine. They're kind of looking at me like I was insane. It was like,
58:36
survive. You're gonna die. Right? Yes. Go with it. Just let it go. Right. And they were just like, I don't. What's
Collin 58:49
amazing what a different perspective can give you? Yeah,
Brandon 58:52
well, one of the kids is like, you know, she cuz she's like, very artistic. Right? It's like, when you draw, do you always draw with your paper right side up?
59:01
And she was like, No, I was like, exactly. Like,
Collin 59:07
yes.
Brandon 59:08
Yeah. Don't always have to just look at this. Only from one perspective, right? Sometimes if you need to draw a certain line, it's easier just to turn your paper. Same thing here, right? Some of the kids they were like, I don't know how I'm going to look at this like it would it was having trouble staying up and like one spot, you know, like, so. Just let it sit overnight. I was like, you can lay it down. And they're like, really? Yeah. Fine. Like, it'll help it stand up tomorrow. If you lay it down now, right. Oh, there was a lot of these like, really like, moments today. So that was good, at least right.
Collin 59:56
Hey, you know what we call multipurpose projects.
Brandon 1:00:01
Yeah. perspective, man. Yeah, build your building upside down. It's fine. Not not about the building. Because that's your next book,
Collin 1:00:15
build it upside down, build your book builds rebuild. That
Brandon 1:00:17
is a good one. Okay, get on that
Collin 1:00:30
would definitely be a good talk for like a business conference to be, will actually die. come in through build up to
Brandon 1:00:38
now to help you write that speech if you want.
Collin 1:00:40
Thanks. I'll co present it with you. Thanks, appreciate, actually, actually do have to give a talk in more coming up soon. So true. Didn't Oh no. Why is it so right around the corner? Megan, Megan and I are actually going to be co presenting. And I I'm not 100% sure how we're going to manage this.
Brandon 1:01:10
So she loves talking. And wait, because she Oh, well, I don't want it to be, like
Collin 1:01:21
us tag teaming time behind a podium, because that's really boring. Oh, yeah, definitely. Like, nobody wants that to be like, Hi, I will present for the first seven minutes. And then I will step back and Megan will come in and keep talking for me.
Brandon 1:01:37
Oh, no, it needs to be much more dynamic than that. Yes.
Collin 1:01:40
It must be like, Oh, bang, bang, bang back forth, back forth. Well, I'm, I'm envisioning more of us just like, sitting down, like, on some chairs, having a conversation, but like a scripted conversation between her and I about a particular topic, which is something that we do like to talk about stuff all the time together, to trying to script out something, to have it flow a little bit more. So it sounds more natural and less presenti. Audience that more conversate much more conversational.
1:02:16
Um, because
Collin 1:02:19
I can't I can't just do a straight talk. So it's not. It's not what I do. Like, the last talk, I gave some guy, a guy in the audience came up, it was like, really good.
Brandon 1:02:32
Performance. I don't know what to say. Yes. Thank you.
Collin 1:02:37
Yes. That's exactly what I what I wanted you to say, I didn't want you to say good talk like that. Would you rather
Brandon 1:02:44
me stand up here and read my slides to you?
Collin 1:02:50
Well, well, I intentionally it was, I think it's really funny where they were like, the last talk, well, we need your slide deck, you know, X number of days, weeks before presentation. And I was like, okay, and I sent it to him. And there was 11 slides, and they were not there. Was there just pictures, or was it was it just pictures like it was there was no words. Some of them made? No sense. They were just there's no sense to the photos at all. Because because they didn't have the context yet. They didn't have the context of like, this photo is a main point in the text that I'm going to be getting to.
Brandon 1:03:27
Is there anything more satisfying than like, you're just presenting, and then you say something, and you just like, click a little button, and then boom, the next slide is that thing you're talking about? Like, oh my gosh, that's pretty great. Right during that, if, by science, I do my science, because I'm like, you might be wondering what all this is leading up to? Boom, boom, there it is. There's a point right there. It's great. Yes. So good. It's very, it's very anticlimactic. When I have checked my email, and not clicked back into my presentation, I'm like, click click click seeing it like I gotta go. Any moment, please. Very back to my computer and click on it and like Haha, yes. There you go. Yeah. Just my monitor between my like, my presenting screen and then my desktop monitor right there. So sometimes my mouse is on the wrong thing. And it just so anticlimactic. It's so upsetting.
Collin 1:04:27
Well, something as simple as like saying the phrase, and before I leave, I want to give you five things that you can start doing today. And when you say the word five things, you push a button, and there's a picture of somebody holding up their five fingers behind you. Yeah, right time. That's all that timing. Yeah, there's no there's no text and it's just someone holding up five fingers out in front of their face. And you just keep talking and it's like, what's behind on the screen, you don't care. You just keep walking and you keep presenting. You know, it's just that's an accessory to what's happening everywhere else.
1:04:59
I I hate Yeah.
Collin 1:05:04
I like giving those kinds of talks where I'm the what's on behind the screen. And I've given the other kinds of talks to you. I've given the extremely heavy data talks, here's I've got to dissect what's on the screen behind us with this graph and figure those are perfectly fine. Good. That's where the laser pointer is good for. Yeah. And I haven't giant, I have a green I have a green laser pointer that can read that we shine stars. Right? That's what I bring in blinds, everybody, like, I those look, I talk totally fine. There's, there's a rhyme and reason for those. But to treat every presentation, like, Hey, I know this, I know this diagram is really confusing. So we're going to break it down for the next 15 minutes like nobody. Like, that's Oh, my goodness, time and place for that.
Brandon 1:05:52
Here's an idea. Here's an idea. Makeup, better diagram,
Collin 1:05:57
the number of times, right, like going to graduate school to phrase, this one's a little bit confusing. Let me break it down for you that almost every graduate student would say that phrase, or even visiting professors who are showing stuff that was their phrase, and it was supposed to, part of it is this. I part of it is very, a look how smart I am with the kind of data that I deal with is that you don't even know half the things that I'm going to pull from the right now. You think it's
1:06:33
just wait, right?
Collin 1:06:35
Soon, things are gonna be circled up here. And we're gonna have some big takeaways, like it's very part of it is very, uh, peacocking
Brandon 1:06:45
as true, you're kind of sitting there going, like, weird flex, but Okay,
Collin 1:06:51
pretty much. Pretty much what it is, is definitely a weird flex around graphs. It's just.
Brandon 1:07:00
But a lot of my graphs are probably confusing to the kids because they're in sixth grade. And we're not really great at Graph reading. So I like to say things like, Alright, when you look at this graph, what do you see? Yeah. And we break it down, down. Right?
Collin 1:07:14
The way the other
Brandon 1:07:15
the other half? What do I might have my axes say? My half is
Collin 1:07:21
idle time. Let's really dive into this. Right. So there's the
Brandon 1:07:26
there's the we talk about that all the time side note, but we I keep the joke works. Man, the think like a scientist joke. It lands. And it works. They get it. Right. Like, okay, we need to think like a scientist. What would you call this? Like, green stick? And they're like, green stick, boom. Right? Like, the joke really lands like, tell me exactly what this is. Uh huh. Right. We were talking about when we're naming presentations, like we just did one about inventions like Mesopotamian inventions. And they'd be like, What should I name it? I was like, I don't know. What should you name a presentation about Mesopotamian inventions? And they were like, Mesopotamian inventions. I was like, yep, boom, that's it. Yeah, nailed
Collin 1:08:19
it. I just went through this process with Lily. And she was learning about the eight different species of sea turtles and their names. And one of them was like,
1:08:31
What the It was, which
Collin 1:08:33
is a thing that they do a lot, especially when they're learning about animals, they have a sheet with a big bubble, and some blank spaces next to it. It's, you write that organism in the bubble, and then you write an interesting factoid about it right next to it. And then the kids go to class, and they all share the facts that they've learned about them. And they were learning about the Black Sea Turtle. And yeah, exactly. She was like, she was like, what color? Is it dad? And I was like, Well, what are you What's it? What's it gonna read? What do you think the color of the shell could be? The caravans could be based on its name. And there's a pause. She went black, and I was like, you know, actually, yes, it is. It's really, really dark. It's very dark.
Brandon 1:09:22
It just made me smile. Yeah, I like doing things like that. Like, I can't remember what it was the other day. But it's like, it's always stuff like that. Like it's the one horned Rhino, so called because it has one horn, and they're like,
Collin 1:09:37
the word or the flat back sea turtle. Like it was like, well, there's a question is like, What's the shape of its back and Blue was like, I don't know. And I'm like, Huh.
Brandon 1:09:50
I think you might.
Collin 1:09:52
We're just gonna, we're gonna go a lot slower. You know, we're just gonna read back through this. This is an important clue to the rest of our lives. Names of like looking at names and going names have meanings. And I'm going to you're going to run with this. So it was, that was fun. That was fun. But yeah, the I mean, there's the, there's, when you're people present the graphs, there's the try and make them more more complex that they sound super smart and important. And then there's the other half of like, they're just really bad at making graphs because it's just made wrong. And you're just, they just take whatever the stats program spits out to them. And they don't think a second more about it of going, how can I make this less confusing? I like one of
Brandon 1:10:36
my favorites are the ones that should be two graphs. Right? Oh, yeah. And they like, have the weird thing. And then there's like a scatterplot on top of it. And you're like, what? Yeah, they have like, two. It's the ones that have like the two y axes, right? So their graph isn't, it's like a U shape. Or there's like, a Y axes on the left, and then another axes on the right. And then there's the X across the bottom. And so the graph is all wonky looking and you're just like, yeah, yeah, would it have killed you to make two graphs? Really? I mean, like, overlay is just not good. Like, what are
Collin 1:11:18
see that a lot with like, they're trying to show the relationship of temperature and precipitation. Oh, yeah. Yes. That's a very common one. Right? Where you're like, but my other my
Brandon 1:11:29
favorite one, but these two graphs side by side? Yes. No, I still see the relationship. We are conserved by use the same scale. I could.
Collin 1:11:39
Yeah. Yeah. Y axes are very common x axes. Very, they're endangered actually. So we have to conserve them. Oh, yeah. Solamente. My, my favorite one was that they would do the scatterplot. And they would do multifactor analysis, but they would leave. So when you generate that it generally get you get all these little arrows that show the strength of the relationship for the the the x variable, the Y variables. Yeah, pulling it, right. Yeah. But they would just we'll just leave look like a those look, they start looking
Brandon 1:12:12
like a wind shear chart from like a weather stations. Yeah, right. That's what they look like with all these arrows. Like, it looks like, it looks like I should be able to map pressure lines on it. Like,
Collin 1:12:24
my, my favorite is whenever they would throw 100 different variables at it and see if they could find a relationship. And then what they would do is they would just leave all 100 variables on it, but only focus on the two that were actually statistically significant. And you end up with every question that would follow from that is, well, what about what about what about what about what about what about? Or can you really like, there are so many questions, it was like, just get rid of everything that didn't fit the model, and show that and then show what it looks like with the full model. And then with the more with a significant model
Brandon 1:13:01
even better. There are also mathematical formulas that you can plug this data into. And it will give you a number, like plus or minus something. Oh, sure, that will just tell you how correlated, the two things are. And you don't need a graph. So if you're going to be just like, throwing darts at a wall, all you really need to do is run this equation multiple times. It's like these a correlation coefficient equations, right? Yeah. And you can mathematically determine if they're related,
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and then if they're not, leave them off your graph is done. Like you don't even have to like the binder and
Brandon 1:13:50
equation is not long. I mean, it's tedious, but it's annoying, but you can just feed it into a computer and it will go point to oh, they're very related. Okay, keeping that variable. And once you do, I mean,
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my, my advisor would always say, like, determine is this a graph? Is this figure? Is this a table? Some of them should be
Collin 1:14:16
tables, the most of the, like, the Tate like the Cowfish. Them should be that's a table oh my gosh, like, and that's what that's definitely where I would just find myself asking that like, really asking that question and like, what is the purpose of me trying? What am I what am I trying to tell that story? Am I trying to tell with this going, Oh, I'm just trying to do a big data dump to show Hey, and here's everything. That's a table, right? That's just a table.
Brandon 1:14:44
Jack is all tables can be graphs, doesn't mean they should?
Collin 1:14:48
Yes. Yeah, tables foundation of graph. absolutely understand. Sometimes we don't need to make that next step. You don't need to Oh, yeah, I love that, like, See table 4.9. And it's just, it's just a dump of all the variables and everything there, your table can be as big as you want.
Brandon 1:15:11
Yeah, it's wonderful, much easier to highlight tables. Right? You can just go in and go, Oh, look at this row, right? No.
Collin 1:15:22
It's great for the people who go, okay. Did you actually account for x? Okay, your table and I can see your list of everything. And then I, it just, it really helps for the, for the review of information. And so that it's not a disgusting graph with, like, five different, you know, keys and different stuff up there. It's just like, Yeah,
Brandon 1:15:49
and you can have that big like, table like the big ones. Like, you can just put those at the end. Yeah, right. And you can Yeah, like you said, you can just reference it. You don't have to, like make it front and center the graphs that you want, then you put them in your thing. And then you can be like, if you're interested, see a table attached? For whatever. Yeah, right. But the relevant data is here. This is what I want to focus on this one graph. Only at a time. So
Collin 1:16:22
that asking those questions, whenever you have data or information to present, I think just just taking that step and going, how does this need to be shown? And then and then there's always an option of it doesn't need to be shown. Sometimes this is just verbal, this sometimes this is just written. And maybe if it's super important, I reinforce it with with a visual display. But that that really, to me changes how you give a talk or you give a presentation whenever you whenever you think about how is this information going to be doesn't need to be conveyed to this particular audience. Given the context of I think of like, the the talk that Megan and I are supposed to be giving. It's the last
Brandon 1:17:08
talk of the day. Okay,
Collin 1:17:13
is it five o'clock at night? Because five to six is main performance? Yes. Like, like this is we're the we're the one thing I hate giving the talk
Brandon 1:17:26
being that you're the thing between them and dinner. Oh,
Collin 1:17:29
that's a lot. You never want to be the thing between some between somebody and food like that is the last thing.
Brandon 1:17:35
You think of it this way. Colin, you're the headlining act. Right. The main act goes on last, right? Yeah. You know, Led Zeppelin is not open for anybody.
Collin 1:17:48
Except, except these people have been we've had openers since 9am. Like a festival isn't? Sure,
Brandon 1:17:57
right. It's a festival. So like, you know, they're staying to see the big band. Go on at the end. That's, you know, pressure. But you are. Oh, it's fine. Last the Dropkick Murphys Oh festival. You know what? I only said that as I saw them at work for one year, and they were the last band to go on. I was just thinking through my head of like, Who else was there?
Collin 1:18:23
Alright, yeah. So yeah, that's a really good point of.
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of maybe we should? Yeah. Five to six.
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I think was the last Yeah. Last day on the fifth last time on the Oh, it's it. It's the Yeah, so we Oh, gosh. It's the last with the last two speakers on the second day. And, ah, the headline headline. Yeah. And, and the next day, just has like, two speakers
Brandon 1:18:56
Hendricks at Woodstock. This is what?
Collin 1:19:00
Really? That's the other you're thinking about? Like, okay, I I'm intentionally now putting together my talk, given what information that they've probably seen. Right? In previous Yeah. Making sure I don't duplicate or maybe I point out information, but, you know, but
Brandon 1:19:21
is it one of those things where everybody goes to every talk? Or is it like an open format?
Collin 1:19:24
F No, it's everybody goes to every talk. That's the other thing that is very weird for me of I'm used to going to conferences where it is definitely multitrack of nine o'clock, you can choose see. But no, this is everybody's at the same room. That's rough. So, um, so I know when what other people have seen because there are only so many. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. Because I've also seen them all. Exactly. So then I'm going I know like we're gonna put together this talk. We're gonna have it down and blah, blah and then as I'm listening to people, it's like, Well, I gotta change that like that. I'm just that's just how I do it. Yeah.
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Anyway, we're trying to make sure that this is engaging and not a just boring talk, because that's not what I want. Like, it would be gross. True. Very true.
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So right now,
Collin 1:20:28
we have the the plan is, this is this is the plan. So the title is, we this is the other thing is that we were given this title said before it is that I mean, I will say I will say we were very, very thankful they reached out to us and they invited us we did not apply, they said, Hey, we would like for you to come and speak on this topic.
Brandon 1:20:55
You can't even like change the title a little bit.
Collin 1:20:57
Well, no. Life The title is, is life as a pet sitter, or life of a pet sitter, which is kinda like calyx, it's very generic. So, what we're going to do
Brandon 1:21:09
is your opening line, don't worry, I don't actually sit on your pets.
Collin 1:21:15
Well, no, because this is two other pet sitters. So it's a pet sitter conference. Oh, okay. Which also makes this hard because there are pet sitters to like, they know what the life of a pet sitter. Yeah, they're not. They're not. But what I'm going to do is because Megan, and I were like, What, uh, what have we talked, what have we bring to this? And I said, aha, here's what makes us different. We don't have to bring anything of our own. I have interviewed
Brandon 1:21:46
200,000 people.
Collin 1:21:50
So all I'm going to do is we're going to have five points, each that starts with a P, because we're pet sitters. And it's going to be it's gonna be, it's gonna be a takeaway from an interview that we did like a one word summary that that person either exemplified or struggled through, or was trying to learn themselves. And we can pull that talk about that their lessons are be our, you know, share some of our own takes on it, and then go on to the next thing, but have a conversation about lessons that we've learned from others in kind of that little context and in structure.
Brandon 1:22:41
So, okay, this this makes some sense, I guess. Okay. Is that is like is that the day in your life? It's an amalgamation.
Collin 1:22:50
Yes. Exactly. That's the key of like, have, we only have so many experiences? Like, it's, it's, so we're kind of going like, what do we talk about? Well, let's pull from lives of other other sitters that we've had connection with and done interviews with and have learned from and what did I see if I can pull up the text that I have? Oh, well, right now I just have I just have three but it's the pitfalls. The passion and people
Brandon 1:23:27
in the life of a pet sitter is one of them. What could be other peas for petsitting? Oh, I guess just pee. Right, everyone?
Collin 1:23:43
Yeah, so I'm just writing this kind of like, okay, what pitfalls? pitfalls I do have all pitfall pitfalls. Passionate people. So basically under equals pit bulls. Passion. People pit Pomeranians Pomeranians. Oh, so now what I'm going to be doing is I'm going to be doing I'm going to abstract this one more level. And I'm going to talk about pit bulls for pitfalls. I'm going to talk about Pomeranians and people and then we're talking about passion and pugs. Pugs. See, see what I've done now? Yeah, we've done
Brandon 1:24:21
other dog breeds over the right, Cooley's that's a poodles. This is great. This is
Collin 1:24:30
powerful. So corgis Portuguese, Portuguese. Yeah. That's what I have pointers. There's lots
Brandon 1:24:42
we're getting too enthusiastic about this.
Collin 1:24:45
But see, that's what I do is I sit here and all the sudden I'm like, Okay, now I have to, I have to make this work and find these connections and then present it. And so obviously when we're talking about, you know, different topics, there's gonna be different photos of dogs up on the screen. that exemplify what we're talking about plus the person who we are learning from Ciara. To kind of have that discussion of because I kind of I thought about it at that context of like, I sit with Megan all the time, and I go, who was that person who we interviewed about the thing, and they live in New York, and she'll be like, Oh, that was Sam. And I'm like, yeah, she was really good about this kind of thing, and blah, blah, blah, blah. So that's what I'm saying. Like, try to pull a little bit of that aspect into it. Of, of our conversations and how we talk about and reflect on things that we're learning and
Brandon 1:25:39
and seeing happening. Yeah, that'd be pretty good. Well, see, I don't also if you Google dog breeds that start with P there's like 20. So you can just throw
Collin 1:25:50
those in, you know, well, I'm just going to
Brandon 1:25:53
pair any in Shepherd. Oh, right. Plot hound. Portuguese water dog.
Collin 1:26:00
Oh, Portuguese, the pappy on my beyond Of
Brandon 1:26:05
course. Pekinese How'd I forget it? Pekinese? I'm sorry, bikinis. I didn't mean to do that. Okay. Whenever we write down your phones on the tongue, of course, include a link to that article. Yeah. Oh, oh, Piebald. Doc. Oh, and start thinking about party Cavaliers. Yeah.
Collin 1:26:31
Polish Tatra sheepdog, M T. K? Well, anyway, we could read the old brothers special reading internet lists on a podcast. That is true.
Brandon 1:26:43
What we're known for. It is apparently, people in Bangladesh. Just love it. So Oh, my gosh, shout out Bangladesh. What's up?
Collin 1:26:53
Very important. So. Well, so working on that. We'll see where that leads. We'll do some more learning about soccer. Oh, my gosh, I want to talk to you about the open CGP. Ai chat. We'll cover all that next time.
Brandon 1:27:14
Okay, I have no idea what that is. So not at all. Oh, it's
Collin 1:27:18
good. It's good. I need to work on that. Actually, actually terrifying. Oh, but take a quick takeaway. Based on this chat bot is chat G P. T. I said it wrong first time anyway, you sign up for a free account. You ask any question? It's an AI. So it pulls from all of the internet knowledge as of 2021 is the data set that this no this is working with? They have now had since two more releases. And the this is the third generation is gonna be coming out soon. It's supposed to be just absolutely insane. Ask this any question ask it. All those writing prompts that you would get in high school that were like compare and contrast to the bla bla bla bla bla, title into this, it will give you an answer written in a very like it's you cannot tell it this was not this was not written by a human cannot. What's important though, is that this is a predictive text, AI. So it is not actually assimilating learning, and then spitting it back out. It is looking at the information. And then basically summarizing, and paraphrasing based on what it expects to see in relationship to certain topics and spitting that out. So it gets things hilariously wrong. At times
Brandon 1:28:48
day break enormously. But
Collin 1:28:53
it is fascinating to play with. Yeah, yeah. So you can add, I'm hitting all sorts of stuff now. So this is something you should definitely play around with.
Brandon 1:29:08
Try to remember to do that before next time
Collin 1:29:11
chatter from this chat. GP T. It's the same. It's made by the same people who are making the Dali to image AI. Yeah. So they're basically except this is text based. So it's, it's a it's just, it's a chat. So you can ask question and give a written response. It just goes back and forth. It's not actually learning from you and it's not trying to interact with you like some of those other creepy API's. This is purely, I give him I give an input and it spits something back at me. So it's, it's, it's a lot of fun to do. And that's that's all very odd. All right. Double plus good. There's our dystopian future ahead of us. Be nice to your AI overlords, please. Ah A Skynet wouldn't be nearly as cranky if we would have said please to Alexa. Oh yeah, that's all I'm saying. Surely sink anyway. Well, we'll wrap it up there. And we'll see what happens next time. All right.
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