segways and staff meetings

Collin is surviving. Brandon is hooked on fonix. We should need this here rain.

  • Recovering from head colds

  • Not sponsors…mucinex…

  • Segways and staff meetings

  • Hooked on fonix

  • Anecdotal evidence logical fallacy

  • Collin went on an adventure

  • Chris Hadfield: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Hadfield

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    • Confections abound

    • Rocus laughter shakes the walls

    • Plates and forks licked clean

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SPEAKERS

Collin, Brandon

Collin  00:04

Welcome to Oh brother, podcast two brothers trying to figure it all out. Your hosts, Brandon, and column. This week show segways and staff meetings. Oh boy.

Brandon  00:19

Oh boy.

00:22

I am flipping knobs, putting out fires. Why is this kid myself balanced monitor balance? Something is very off.

Brandon  00:32

If there's a problem here hear yourself is useful,

00:36

you know? Although right now with my head congestion I don't know if I want to hear myself at all.

Brandon  00:43

True yours doesn't seem to have gotten any better. Actually,

00:47

no, no. It has in fact gotten worse because now I have sinus pressure galore today. And I went to put Vicks on my face. And I started trying to smell through my nose and I was like, huh, I can't smell the VIX at all.

Brandon  01:06

That's baktun really blocked.

01:08

Real blocked. So I've been doing it's got a lot it

Brandon  01:12

on your feet. Now you're gonna Uh huh. Yeah.

01:15

Anything? It is. It is so Yeah, real blocked. But we are surviving. I don't know if thriving yet. But it is things are happening. Things are happening.

Brandon  01:28

I smashed mine with Vicks and cough syrup. That seems to have at least tempered the problem. We're much better than we were. The other day. All right.

01:42

Good. Good. Mine has been slow, like very, very slow progressing. I've been on

Brandon  01:48

I was real fast. Like the day after, like, Saturday after I got home. For CEUs I was just I was I just really had a casual day like I blew my nose every five seconds. Like it slammed me hardcore. And then and, and here's my fun day. Here's the official. You can tell I just had a birthday because I'm old man now. Yeah, right. So some sort of combination of hoisting antenna. And children hanging on my arm. Right? I have like, strained my left pectoral or shoulder something in there. So when I cough it hurt like real bad. No, no, no, no, no, no. Sorry. I was like right in there. It's like I have a cough is the official I am super old man. Now like Yeah, that's better to now. Like that was like, but that was odd. I get on Saturday. It was like no. Broken. Oh. That's bad. Wasn't it wasn't great times. So that was it well, I talked about, you know,

03:21

like, my cloth is getting a little bit better. It's not as deep as it was before. Oh, that's good. That's good. It's just this new head thing that I've got going. I'm not enjoying this because I also I went out I was feeling kind of loosey goosey. But like, I don't feel all that great. And then I had to bend down to tie my shoes. And I was like, I was like, ah, that that hurts my head. That's that's not good. I don't enjoy that at all. So

Brandon  03:52

we've been covering has hashtag hashtag not sponsored. But that means next cough syrup is pretty good stuff. Right?

04:05

So I think that's what I sponsored. I think I need to to change because I've been taking the Sudafed stuff. And that, is it super fat is what I've been taking. No.

Brandon  04:26

No, what No. What's

04:27

the other one? What's the other one? Not nice. Next, um,

Brandon  04:30

robots doesn't robot tasks is just the classic one. Yeah, I've

04:33

been taking robot as an act. I know. Like it's, it feels like it's making me like, just like, I'm okay. But like, I think it'd be better. So I need to say I did six tablets, but those didn't do a whole lot. Now

Brandon  04:50

the tablets I don't normally do a lot for me, right? For some reason. Just the cough. The cough syrup stuff. Just helps me a lot I don't know why I even took some Lake. The other day we went to well, because we went to Thanksgiving, right? And so I was just something and I tried to take some like just normal Sudafed during the day, did it? It was so bad. It didn't even touch it. Like I was like, Oh, dang, that's not good. No, that's that's time wasted where I could have been taking more coffee.

05:24

Yeah, no, I have. No I have to wait. Yeah,

Brandon  05:26

I guess more. I don't know if different allergies because last time in this spring, when I had allergies, I took the Sudafed and it actually helped a lot. Yeah, whatever. This is not the same. It didn't do anything. So I took some new snacks. I still have a little bit of new 6pm for me today. So that nappy didn't make naproxen. Like, yeah, it just helped me sleep. Yeah. And I slept like that again. That Saturday night. When I came home. I slept all like many hours. I was like, oh, oh, yes. A combination of not being in a tiny bit my dad's house but like that girls out? Yeah. No, I,

06:12

I tried to I've been doing some experiments because I was I took the proper tests and pm nighttime stuff one day, and I woke up feeling really bad the next day.

Brandon  06:23

And I went, is it? Is it that?

06:27

Is it my sickness? Or is it the nighttime medicine? So yeah, I did take it the following night. Now it's hard because I didn't take it. I coughed all night long. And I was like, up. Even I even took like the normal robots and not off nighttime stuff. And I was still tossing and turning. But I didn't feel is like, hazy the next morning. So I was like, well, so then I took it the following night. And I woke up feeling hazy and like, like, I couldn't shake something. I was like, just feeling very like a fog. And I was like, okay, it is the night type stuff. And so now I'm like, Well, I am baby because I go to bed at like 11. And I then wake up at 530 or six. So that's probably not not helpful at all. Let's

Brandon  07:12

see what I have to do. Right? Here's here's my strap, right? I don't usually go to bed till like 11 or whatever, either. But I take the pee and cough syrup at like 10 Ah, right. You got to kind of give it a head start. Yes. A little bit, right. I can't. I mean, I guess I probably could because it doesn't bother me too much. Right, usually. But like, I don't like to take it like right when I go to bed. Right? I have to give it some time to start kicking in a little bit. Before I go to sleep. Right? To me try that kind of backup the start time just a little bit. Hit it

07:52

a little earlier. Yeah, well, it's like whenever you take like any sort of sleep aid or whatever it's like, yeah, take this, you know, 20 to 30 minutes before you intend to fall asleep.

Brandon  08:01

I usually do it. I take my shot, but like 10 to 1030 Maybe. And then. But again, I don't usually have the Groggy morning problem. Oh, well, again, like sometimes they do. But it's like, I can't tell because you're like not feeling good. And I don't have the wherewithal to perform experiments such as these because I don't want to stay up all night. So like, it is hard, right? Because you've run into this bias of like, you can't repeat the same circumstances. Again, right? This is that weird paradox, right? Where you like, well, I can't then rewind time and do it differently. Because that's the only true way that you would be able to tell a difference, right? Yeah, if you could repeat exactly the same thing again, which can't do so. Right? Because

08:48

my sickness is either advanced a day or like gotten better by a day plus a day like I was either really a lot busier or not a lot busier. Yeah.

Brandon  08:57

There's a lot soil water you variables in there. Yeah. So that is a problem with this particular process. But it's probably anecdotal evidence. No, no, no,

09:10

it's totally fine. There's not an issue with it at all.

Brandon  09:13

There is an issue with it. Right? Which leads me into my next segue Monday I had this staff meet.

09:19

Oh, no. Okay. I love my I love it. I love these kinds of segues. Yeah, and

Brandon  09:24

no, I was just thinking about this like the whole time, right? I was. I was sitting in a staff meeting, right? Because I was sitting there learning about phonics instruction. As a science teacher. It was like last Oh, no. Anyway, I didn't have to do much as of yesterday. So I did get a ton of work done. Right. I made another section of the game thing I play in my room. I recorded five chapters of the book for my special education kids, right, boom. Oh, wow. I was ripping through it. It was a little bit hard because I was kind of not able to breathe. And so I was trying not to like cough into the microphone. I was I was really sad. Thanks. I was there was there's a couple that were really long and I had to be like, a little out of breath because I was trying not to like sniffle and stuff. And yeah. You know, but anyway. Sorry, I was sitting there. Right. And I realized something about sometimes education things, right. And I don't know if this is, this is all, or just the ones that I have had the pleasure of sitting through, right. But like, I was sitting there listening to these, it was like, a lot of different people, right? It wasn't like one person, right? Because if it was one person, this would make up like, oh, this this, you know, it makes more sense. But like, it was like three different people. Right. And there's a lot of there's a lot of other logical fallacies that get thrown out in your education meetings sometimes, surely. And it's I know, and it's, and I was thinking about this, and I was like, man, a lot of these conversations arise from the anecdotal evidence fallacy. Mm hmm. Right. It's all like, it's all it's everybody's saying like, Well, when I did this, bla bla bla, that that is the only that is the only thing that's presented, right anywhere. And I'm going like, okay, so, are these things that you're telling me? Are these actually best practices? Or are we like so have we fallen into this logical fallacy hole so hard? That we anecdotal evidence is fine. Right, and then I spent the whole rest of the meeting thinking about this, and I didn't listen. But right. So I am sitting there and I'm going, Okay, we're talking. We're talking about phonics. Right? Talking about phonics, right? And you remember, we're Hooked on Phonics. Okay. Yes. Remember? K? So? So I am a little bit fuzzy on the details, right? But like we there was a big push in the 90s like phonics Hooked on Phonics bothers the commercials, blah, blah. My friend had one of the joke shirts said like my Hooked on Phonics work for me, but all the words are spelled wrong, right. Yeah. So I seem to remember, there's some some sort of thing, like people drifted away from phonics, just phonics, because it's like, not quite good enough for like, the only thing to do for language instruction, which makes sense because Oilers, doing just one thing, never really the answer. But like, but like, then we go to this other thing, and then it's like whole language learning. And as long as and then now, now, our big issue back in our school game is phonics for the children, right? Yeah. And so I'm thinking, I'm sitting in this meeting, thinking, like, this is big meme, right? Like education is all about, is all about old moves in cycles, bro. Like, you know, that's the joke. Everyone's another joke, like you do this one thing. And then like, in five years, you do this other thing. And then a couple more years, you're back to doing the thing that you did before. Is this because educational policies are driven largely by anecdotal evidence fallacies? Whoo, not by actual research at all. Because they even showed me a video, right? And I was watching this video and this lady, right? She's talking about her kid learning. And in the video, she's mentioning things like, this isn't how we did it when I was in school, and blah, blah. And then she set up like this experiment, right? This lady is allegedly a sociologist, there was nothing in the video to prove that that was true. But yeah, it could have been a Facebook science video for a lie. No. And, and like she said, at this experiment, and I'm watching the experiment, right? And I'm going it's not a good experiment. This is like, scientifically bad. Right? We have some holes here. have, like, not isolating variables. Okay, we're doing some weird things. I don't know how I feel about this. But it was all driven by this, like this idea of like, oh, well, we didn't do this. And I did this. And I was successful, right? Like, this is a this is not a fact. Right? This is only anecdotal evidence. And so now, I'm distressed because I think all my conspiracy theory is that all all educational policies are driven by anecdotal evidence based logical fallacies, and I'm upset now. because this is what happens every time administrators or teachers stand up, right? They're talking about this. And they always talk about when I did this, I found success. Like, that doesn't mean anything really. Right? We have, like we're talking about with your medicine experiment, right? There's just a lot of variables at play here. Right? We have infinite variables. Because, like, no two kids are even the same. They can't be like, oh, boy, I did this with one kid five years ago, and it was perfect. Like, rod has helped me, right, because it helped me drive policy saying like, if this if I did this one time, but it was successful does not mean it will work all times. Right. In all situations, in all circumstances, it all crossed all things. And I, I was distressed to the horse.

16:00

But it's, it's true. And that's because, and I know that there are a lot of educational researchers that try and formalize those kinds of things. And that's why a lot of that's why they have even those, those experimental schools to to implement, but so they can get, like, four or five cohorts through, right, where they can actually see what's happening. But there's so few of those. Right? And especially if you have, oh, there's a board meeting and or there's the, the the days, you know, with the where you were at, right, where people are sharing, they're sharing what their experiences. And yeah, this ends up going, Okay, well, this is the a lot of people then goes to oh, well, this is the the teacher who's the most experienced, or they've been here the most years, or they've had the most challenging whatever, well, we'll defer to them, because of their experience, which is not in and of itself a bad thing. But then it leads to them being viewed as the be all end all. And it's like, well, I don't want you can't and it's hard, because it's like, well, I can't dispute that it worked for you. Obviously, it did something did, we're going to assume and attributed that it was to these things. And, and this Oh, my gosh, this is why this is why the kind of experiments that we were that I was doing for my degree was like,

Brandon  17:30

we're going to measure everything, everything. We're

17:35

just going to measure it, why are we going to measure it? Well, because we don't know, we actually don't know what is going to influence this. And so statistically, though, we have ways of testing everything all at the same time together to see what's driving the effect that we see. And so, you know, I'd be like, Well, I'm pretty sure it's salinity, but I still have to measure. I

Brandon  17:57

would measure all the other things and make sure right,

18:01

wild cup cover and wind direction, like wind direction, I'm dealing with a fish and they're like wind directions, or you're gonna measure wind direction, fine, fine, fine, fine. And so that way, you can say, look, all of these other stochastic and random variables that are out there in the world, none of them had an impact. And you just don't get that from those from those one off. Because they're what they are, is their case studies. They're not actual facts. It's yeah, that's very kind of Emmett. But oftentimes,

Brandon  18:29

especially in education, case, studies are represented as evidence. Right? Ha, simply because somebody didn't know how to they didn't pay to science class, and they did not do their experiment progress. Like, oh, yeah, no. Crazy, right? Oh, let me get like, you know, you just get to see what what we've just talked about here are like, nine fallacies from this list that I'm looking at right here. Right? We have, you know, the old appeal to authority. The old bandwagon, right, because if it worked for several people, it must be good. Right? Hmm. You know, hasty generalizations, and, you know, oh, and then of course, what you just mentioned the correlation causation. One. Ah, everyone's everyone's personal favorite. Everyone's favorite, right? You know, that a lot of these just show up and people just like, blast through and when they take that is the fact it was like, Oh, no. Man, this is upsetting because, like, like, I understand what you're trying to do, right. Like, I think some of it is not intentional, right. Not spreading these things intentionally. Because, because as a, you know, you want to like, connect with your fellow educators, right? That's what they're trying to do, right? We're trying to like Draw and like, say like, I'm like you, right? I've been there. I know what it's like we're trying to make, like a personal connection. What we're actually doing is providing anecdotal evidence only. And not like, actual things. Because, you know, in, in education anyway, right, like, we, we have this big problem because we have like, they like to tout, you know, the data, right, and they like to tout all of these things. Right. But like, a lot of them aren't, like, really collected Well, or like, the data is just like, skewed to make it fit your presupposition about what's happening, right. Like, and, you know, there's a lot of these things don't correlate anyway. Because if you look at things like MAP test data, right, you look at one group of third graders, they are speaking third grade, because that's the first year that takes them out. Just you look at one event, you take your year, you're like 2020 19/3 graders. And you compare that to the 20 22/3 graders, which are not the same children. Yeah, right. They didn't have the same teacher, they possibly have been teaching a different curriculum in different circumstances and all kinds of things. Like, the infinite number of variables with just like one class of third graders from year to year, makes your data kinda not super great. You know, right. There's a lot of presupposition saying, like, every single person, when they start the beginning of third grade will have had the exact same education up to that point. Which is false. Right, this is a, this is not a presupposition that you can stand on. Right. And so if that is your presupposition, all of your all of all of the conclusions that you draw after that are not valid. Because because you started from a place of falsehood, right? Right, you can look at the third graders test, and then compare it to the fourth graders tests the next year, because those are the same kids. Right? And if you can say like, oh, well, last year, this kid was here, and this year, this kid is here. That's marginally better, because it's the same kid. But it's not the same test. So like, it's a completely different test. So the scores are also kind of not relevant, right? It's like looking at your math test. And then also your spelling test and be like, Oh, this kid showed growth? Like, those are two different things. What are you talking about? I don't know.

23:00

Yeah, when they when they actually do these kinds of studies in the real world, because they do these kind of like repeated tests and a time time based events over time, and there's some over in England that have been going on for like 50 years, whether it's the same people same, but it's the exact same test or whatever. But in between there, like, again, measuring everything, what is it? What are these people eating? What are they doing in their free time? How much TV are they watching? What are their grades in the other classes throughout the things? What are their extracurricular activities, what's their home life, like, you know, all of these other factors go into play to try and like, get some semblance of, of how is is this one student progressing, as opposed to just random set of questions once a year? Cool, let's that that's what we'll use to determine if the student is on the right track or not. Yeah. So it's interesting how you are talking about this. And I'm just I'm like, I'm rolling my eyes. Because with the way you're presenting this of like, oh, there's somebody up there. They're like, well, I did this one thing this one time. Let me tell you about two people like about about dog trainers and business coaches. Oh, boy. Oh, boy.

Brandon  24:21

I'm gonna pull my list of fallacies back up. This week's logical fallacies

24:29

five logical fallacies. Because that like, like, dog trainers are notorious for this right of like, I did, I did that I've dyed it. Yeah, I did these four things. And my dog did this. And now this is my curriculum that I do, right. And this is what and it's just a case study. And it's the same in the end. So then they take this out, and they apply to everybody and it's what they start preaching from the rafters and that's the really bad really lazy dog trainers that do that kind of thing of like, oh, well, yeah, this One thing will work for you because it worked for me. And it worked for these other people that's like, well did it or did like, or are you cherry picking here? Because like, tell me about the other students that didn't work on? Well, yeah, I

Brandon  25:10

think we're cherry picking too because like you, you, you know, you're telling me these anecdotal evidence that backs up your thing, right? These other five people were successful. Nevermind that I taught this to 500 people. I

25:29

actually, anytime you read a business book from a business coach, all they want to do is talk about their success stories. And obviously, right, okay, fine, you were successful, let's talk about it. But don't prop that up to be like, so therefore, this will work for you. And that's actually language that people use all the time. If this worked for me, it'll work for you. No, no, no, no, no, no. Like, that's not actually helpful at all. And I think it's the, it's people what they fall into, and because I see this of people who say, okay, so this is what this is the trajectory I see with a lot of people. And it's very interesting to like, the corollaries over here to the teaching world. Somebody starts a business, they reach a modicum of success. And then they go, Oh, I'm going to start teaching other people how to do what I did, because what I did, made me successful. And so they turn around, we have tick

Brandon  26:23

tock bros, right? This is those dudes on the internet that are like, Yo, bro, I bought this house one time like I shut up.

26:30

Yeah. This is exactly that where they go with and this is the formulate people have, well, these are this seven things that I did. And I was successful. So if you do these seven things, you too will be successful, and be lazy. That is not how any of this works. It's not that you can not do that. You can not because like, Okay, well, if you go and ask Jeff Bezos about why Amazon was so wildly successful, you can't do that. Now. You can't do his steps now. Because the Amazon exists people. Keep in touch, like, that's what people tend to forget, like, know, the time and because also like, Okay, well, you did this 30 years ago, don't like, I can't follow those steps because the world is not the same that we're interacting with right now. Oh, yeah. Right. Like that's that. That's what really gets me frustrated is when people go well. And well. And this is through all the courses of life of, well, if only you would do X, Y, Z, and you would be successful, or this, you'd get what you want. And like we can put you did that in the 90s. Right? Like this. This is 30 years. Sheesh. Yeah. This is many years later.

Brandon  27:48

Yeah. And in numerable number of years later,

27:51

there's no way we can find out it's a lot. It's a time there has been time has passed. And you it just the number of factors that go into that kind of thing. You You literally cannot measure them all. And and people go oh, wow. Great. You have five things for me to do you have 11 things for me to do. That's what I'll do. Because I don't want to figure it out on my own or like I, I've, I'm struggling and I need the help. And they fall into that line. Because here's somebody who's boldly proclaiming that they have the answer.

Brandon  28:30

And if you pay 4999 You too can have

28:38

Yeah, so with all that said, the the oh brother consulting firm is rolling out and we have to talk about, here's

Brandon  28:45

what it is. You just tell us what you're gonna do. And we'll just be like, yes, or no, that's basically that's our consulting was a no, that's a lie. Yeah, or, yeah, sounds good. Go for it. Go for Cocoa. We're gonna vary here, right? It's where we got it.

29:01

Just yes or no. I haven't seen $100

Brandon  29:08

I mean, I would add $17 is good, right.

29:11

That's cool. That's cool. That's let me just write that over here. I'll make that web page to live. Yeah, got it. Set up and pay pal. Okay. Yeah. It'd be like, yep. Sounds good,

Brandon  29:26

bro. Keep doing what you're doing. This is a bad plan. You should rethink your life. That's the start of our form letter.

29:39

That's pretty much the kind of stuff that I need to put together a lot of times a lot of times like, oh, that's that's interesting.

Brandon  29:51

Interesting choice. Yeah.

29:54

Well, I think that's different between a no, no, I think that's a difference between a consultant and a As a coach, right? Right a consultant is there to like, answer like actually answer questions and a coaches. Well, a lot of times they just tell you what to do you know, consultant, you go for questions, and they're gonna help you figure them out and put together a plan versus a code. So that's where I like the consulting world as we're gonna gather. Okay.

Brandon  30:22

I'll be the coach. Yeah, yeah. I am. Oh, so

30:30

good. Yeah, well, I'm hopefully you can recover from that and not get too caught up on that next

Brandon  30:36

time. Oh, yeah. I'm real worried about next time to react. Oh, no. Now this is in my head. Right. That's all you're gonna hear. I know, that's all I'm gonna hear the whole time. I was like, no, no, no. Why? Right? Just it just jumps out. So here's the real takeaway listeners. Don't use your free coaching advice, right? If you are listening to somebody, and they're telling you what to do, and in the course of their little deposition, they're just using first person pronouns. Uh, huh. Take everything they're saying. And just withhold some grains of salt. And know that this is not actually factual. Nope. Right. Right. When you hear those magic words I, me. My, we don't know.

31:34

It's all it's all probably mostly fine. Really? Yeah.

Brandon  31:38

Some of it is fine. But also some of that is bunk. And just take it with a grain of salt and know that it's not actual factual evidence. Exactly. There we go. There's the free advice. Corner. This has been Brandon's coaching corner. Welcome. Well, we

32:01

we got out of our comfort zone this past weekend. Oh, did I didn't send you these photos. I need to send the family these. So I went to a business mixer a month or two ago. And I got these articles

Brandon  32:18

all the time, and you're always disappointed and then you still go again. And I'm like, Well, I

32:24

was I went this one time, and I actually won some free tickets to something called Fritz's adventure. Ah, and Branson in Branson. Yeah.

Brandon  32:33

Have you been? No, my my one of my friends has gone with their family.

32:38

So you you are Are you aware of Fritz's Avenger?

Brandon  32:41

I'm moderately aware. I don't have like a full understanding. But I know kind of what it is, well, well,

32:49

I had these free tickets. And I had we had knew nothing about this. And we were trying to figure out what we're gonna do, as best we can. And Megan was like, Hey, we've got these free tickets. Let's use them. And that was like, sweet. So we kind of started driving. No, no, either research beyond that.

Brandon  33:09

Oh, Googling the address. That's uh, yeah, well, yeah.

33:14

And we just drove off. We also also, we also found out that the tickets that I had won very kindly were the highest tier tickets live, but I only had two of them. Oh, no. So that meant that I had to buy two other of the of the highest tier so we can all do something Oh, that was that was a little bit of a hack. But yeah, fine. Okay, it's fine. Because we got to do it together so anyway, we shall

Brandon  33:45

legion had to buy four of the highest

33:49

oh my gosh, I don't there are okay. They escaped. We excite note if you looked at this place they have they have so many tears beyond what even we like they have we did we just got the tickets. We didn't even get the like the boozy like reserved seating sections. stuff going on. Where else is

Brandon  34:16

in here? I'm Google. I'm going to the website right now.

34:18

You can get it seating. You can get the elite experience or the premier experience. It is it's insane. And it's comfortable seating for seven like pizza sweet treats, unlimited drinks, other amenities. You get basically whatever you want with these tickets are like $125 a person would night.

Brandon  34:43

What are these? Yeah, the premier.

34:47

The premiere experience is $120 per person. The premiere it also gets you and I'm like

Brandon  34:54

I don't know. So this is marketing right on their website. At listeners. It's just like a lady excitedly holding a pretzel. I don't really know if that really conveys excitement for 100

35:13

It is a giant and then

Brandon  35:14

a dad like nonchalantly having some pizza. It doesn't even look like really great pizza. Right? Looks like

35:21

it's cafeteria food, like being honest. But I will say

Brandon  35:25

this pretzel is the size of a steering wheel. It is why

35:29

it's called the Family pretzel.

Brandon  35:30

Oh my gosh.

35:33

It is called the Family pretzel. It is cafeteria food. But remember, they're targeting families. If you don't have to leave, and you could just go sit at a table. I mean, yeah, get food like so because that's so we didn't get the Premier or elite experience. We just bought the norm. We just had the normal like ticket tickets. But that meant that we could do everything here. And yeah, we showed up right when they opened and they okay, we went to this thing called the sky trail. Oh,

Brandon  36:04

that sounds like something that you would love. Because you guys so much.

36:08

Yes. Everybody was very excited about this. And I had my apprehensions what this is, it's a four story like maze geometric a thing. And what you do is you get into your harness of the like this climbing harness. And then they attach a a a tether that goes from your harness up to a track above your head. And as you walk the heart the the tether slides along this track so that you're always connected to this beam above your head saying is enormous.

Brandon  36:47

Right now could for a movie, or stories tall brick building, or do you just get to be Spider Man. And as I was happening, there is a brick wall.

36:58

Yes, the chalk line. That's an outlet that's called the city wall. And we just like that's the we went to the sky trail for the the right way. Because we're like, oh, this is going to be really busy later on. So we just jumped on, we climb you climb up your stairs, either three stories, three flights, or four flights, depending how you're making just like booked it to the third flight, you turn. And then it's nothing but like tight ropes, and like rickety bridges. And like step stones that you have to go through. And you're three stories up.

Brandon  37:33

Good night,

37:34

it is intense, like, and we just start going and of course, you know, I am i i get to it. So I have to stand on a stage on a on a chair to get the furnace filter out of our ceiling, because that's where it Oh,

Brandon  37:51

yeah, this stays off.

37:56

I cling to the doorframe. And here I am, like, Well, like I want to be here I'd have this experience with my kids. And my wife is already on the other side getting attached to a zipline. So I guess I have to go to so

Brandon  38:14

not looking back, is she? No, no, she was just like, boom.

38:19

You don't really know or like, Yeah, whatever. And they're gonna take there was a few tense moments where we had to like, climb like there was that the netting, strung out and you have to go from left to right on it. And so like you're doing this net, so it's arm work and leg work putting your arms in the holes. And again, if you look down, you are three storeys above the ground. And doing that that was a little, little scary. And they just they straight up just had ones that were just like a tight rope. And nothing else, a lot of them. So lay you get across that as you either, you know, actually tightrope walk, or if you cheat like me and you grab your tether, right and you kind of lean into your tether, and that creates enough resistance that you can do most of these. Yeah, and you're gonna be fine. But it's still terrifying. I mean, I was genuinely a few moments a few times where I was like, I don't know if I could keep doing this. It just is is very scary. And then like you just walk around a corner and then they they put you on a zipline and they send you across and they actually have a zipline course that goes around the entire building that is actually separate from the sky trail. It takes an hour and a half to do what it is. Yes, it is intense people you have to wear gloves. You have to have a training class. You have to hook and unhook yourself from the cables that are strung over all the place. We did not do that, because that was that would be too much like it was a bit too complicated. cuz you have when you go to like, you have your little D ring, and you have to like, take that out when you're up for So, real quick sky trail, we did the third level did the zipline and then we did go up to the fourth level we did one track and then we came down because I was like, we're all getting a little tired, we need to go eat and also like, I don't know how much more I can do this. So I did go to the fourth story and I did do a thing and then we came back. But like the other trail the other zipline thing, like when you get to a zipline, you have a an actual zipline unit or whatever that you have to physically you attach to the zipline. And then you swing off and go

Brandon  40:43

oh day. All right.

40:45

It's like oh, it's a lot. So we did not do that. But we did this guy trail is so cool. And we just like showed up and we're just like, Yep, here we go. Here's what we're doing what law they have a 19 a full 1958 dual prop plane suspended from the ceiling. And what's really cool is that in order to get to it, you have to like climb through this grain silo maze to get up to the top spiral. And then there's of netting the suspended four stories from the ceiling to that goes in a big arch over down to the cockpit of this plane. Oh, wow. Yeah. And then the one of the neatest things was down on the in the basement. There's this cement mixer drum, half sunken down in the cement.

Brandon  41:37

And there's a hole cut in the inside.

41:39

If you climb through that hole, it's actually the entrance to underground tunnels. Wow. Yes. Now holy I'm, I'm a bit of a bigger guy. So this was a little difficult for me. Plus, I have an upper respiratory kind of bronchial constricting thing going on. So it was a bit currently. But this was so cool because he like climbed down through like and they had the the internal spirals still there for this and it mixer, and then just like plopped out and we were going through tunnels, like arms in front of you like wiggling side to side. Yeah, like tight, tight things. And every now and then you would look up and there's a floor. Great. So you can see people up walking around like beyond like above you. They had a cool oh gosh, a tree house. But it was the rope Tree House kind of like I mean, you remember Sivaganga cities tree house. Yeah, it was big, thick, like ship ropes air. They had ones they had three huge towers made out of that, that were all connected together at the very top. That was fascinating. They also had these shipping containers stacked on top of one another. That was another like obstacle course and like maze to get through with more underground tunnels that were like, huge that you were kind of walking crawling through. Ya know, like, we spent so

Brandon  43:15

much stuff in it. I heard about ziplining and like the rope horse deal, right and did not know anything else about we spent three hours like their urban explorer light, right? Like this is this is training you to be those dudes on YouTube. They just like to have GoPros on their head or exploring abandoned buildings. Right? That's what this is.

43:34

Exactly. This is exactly what they are prepping you for. Because then yeah, so at the end, they will we chose to save this for the end. There's a cityscape. It just looks like a brick wall. It's like a kind of garage door windows that look like they're busted and whatever. And like every now and then there are bricks that are poking out. And you just find that right. And that's that's three stories up. And then next to that they have full size like massive telephone poles

Brandon  44:05

that you can that you can climb. And do the hell do they have the little metal bars and them? Is that how you climb it? Or do you like you're talking about like the actual telephone poles have the little T bar things on them? Yes,

44:20

they are. Yes, they do. Yeah. Yeah, you didn't have to put the spikes in and like do the hook.

Brandon  44:25

I mean, that's probably good. I don't know if there's a lot of training but I don't know about climbing spikes.

Collin Funkhouser  44:30

Right now what they did was they they had these full sized telephone poles and at the very top, they had the little T bars that come across and they had huge transformers. And they had two different poles. One they had the metal posts on the sides sticking out that you see. And then another one that had the little handhold bars coming out right in front. So that was a bit easier for the younger kids to climb. Oh, okay. Okay, right Like little hand and foot holds that are just right in front of you, as opposed to off the sides, because these are the side telephone poles. Yeah. And my goodness, Lillian No, just like Stanford eyes. I

Brandon  45:11

bet they both were like, at the top, like when

45:15

there was like, it was nothing. No, they both got to the very top. They're hanging up there. They ring a little bell. And then they just take a few moments, they turn they look down, right? And they're like, huh, cool. And then they just start climbing down. And I'm like, but they have, they use auto belays for all this? Yeah. So you're just you're just climb in and they've got the instructors down and they're, you know, they're watching and they're directing you kind of where you can climb where you can't and things like that. But, man, it was, it was so much fun. Like, there's so much stuff to just like, I'm going to climb. It was like one of those like, I'm gonna go climb that wall. Or like, oh, yeah, let me go do that thing. Like, you never like Where else can you go to these things? And you know, not get yelled at or die. Like, that's very important here. But yeah, then the we're, I'm, I'm interested in doing the big big course like I really am. Because it also has like outside segments to like they like it goes outside for a little while.

Brandon  46:15

On the thing there. Yeah. Big, like, how big How big is this? Like, what?

46:20

It's this thing? It's a huge

Brandon  46:22

building.

46:27

And everything's just kind of like you cross levels. There's all sorts of different things going everywhere. So it's a I'm, yeah, no, I'm, again, I was still am terrified.

Brandon  46:42

But I,

46:43

I secretly think that this is what we all need to go do as a family the next time we're here, because ah, yeah, that's my that's my plan.

Brandon  46:55

All right. Well, that's all dad. He'll just go out the woods and start stringing ropes up. And I know.

47:03

This is this is my concern as well.

Brandon  47:07

But

47:09

yeah, because we do because we got home. And he was up on a ladder, dealing with his tower. Of course, the kids were like, Hey, can we climb that? And I was like, no, no, no, that's doing people. Yeah. No, hold

Brandon  47:19

on. Wait, no, stop. Now, this recliner thing, like I'm just gonna climb this thing. Bam. Done. Yeah,

47:34

I mean, yeah, I mean, really, it was just like, there was hardly a surface there that you weren't allowed to climb on or like, do something with.

Brandon  47:44

And they had stuff from all for

47:46

all ages to which was also nice. Like, it wasn't just big, huge, extreme stuff.

Brandon  47:52

Yeah. Essentially do smaller ones even though. Yeah, you like, your your kids are like over the top of the big, huge, extreme stuff. No, they were they were 60 feet in the air. So bad. Hey.

48:07

Uh huh. Yep. I mean, I mean, here's the thing of like, the the tree tops zipline. That's the huge course it takes like an hour and a half to do like.

Brandon  48:18

It's, yeah,

48:20

you're going to zipline a total of 17 times. Good night, you're going to walk across eight suspension bridges. And you're going to have to do two, three falls, where you disconnect from the course connects to an auto belay and just jump off

Brandon  48:41

that as I ah,

48:46

but if you but like, we technically could have done it with the kids because they're both 48 inches tall. Like that's the minimum requirements and all that good

Brandon  48:54

grief. Yes. I know. Rizal No, no. No, that's,

49:03

that's what I'm like, AB but the whole, like, attach and attach stuff like, complicated and, and I'm a bit manic. So I don't think I'd be able to handle this much.

Brandon  49:15

You know, yeah. Ah, so, anyway,

49:20

that's where we just, you know, we're, we're all just gonna go do it. And we'll get down on a zipline. That's what I'm saying. Oh, yeah.

Brandon  49:27

Because that'll happen. Ah, exactly what happened? I had no, there's no way I called it now. No way. Dag is 100%. Fine.

49:37

He can hold our table for when we need to. I

Brandon  49:40

feel like that is what he would do. He would feel like I'm absolutely not going up there. To the shit yeah. Anyway. So that's, that was

49:52

our big adventure. It really was an adventure. And I'm

Brandon  49:55

gonna sounds like Yes, please. That's Yes. But

50:01

we're like, you know, we're driving home and I'm like, Well, did anybody expect we'd climb a telephone pole today?

Brandon  50:09

Nope. Nope. It can't say that. That was on the list of outcomes. Nobody

50:15

is less on nobody's list.

Brandon  50:18

Yes. And

50:20

yes, the food is not the best in the world. We did eat we did go ahead and eat there. Because it's like, well, I mean, already here already here. Right. And technically, once you have a wristband, you can come and go at your will at your leisure for that day. And they're open to like, eight, but like, who's gonna really do?

Brandon  50:40

Yeah, and like, it's hard to because you're already Branson's for like, the food that you're going to find if you leave the food probably be even more expensive than is there. So yeah, it is right.

50:58

Yeah, they had peanut butter jelly sandwiches. So we were sold. Oh, there you go. So I need

Brandon  51:03

right. Susan be done with that. She likes paper. He's huge. There's things that stick in pretzel ads.

51:13

Okay, they weren't that big. Oh, with the kids plates.

Brandon  51:17

Again, what I think of

51:20

experience of like, what's the customer's experience like? They have again, this whole thing is supposed to be kind of like zany and wacky and in a world that that you don't get to experience anywhere else. All of the kids plates from the order a kid's meal are served on frisbees that you get to keep which is kind of cool. Nice. It's an interesting touch. I could something where you're like, I wasn't expecting that. That's kind of cool. doesn't quite make the pipe price with if you're, you know,

Brandon  51:53

whatever. That's true. We do get to take something home I do get to eat lunch and make Back to the Future three references. So that's very important.

52:09

That's Yes, this is all necessary.

Brandon  52:14

Yeah, that's important. Right so that's that's good. Okay, can never have too many Back to the Future three references. Right? It's important Oh dressed you like that? You look like an idiot. You did dark Oh,

52:48

no. And now we're, we're buckling down for the cold weather and rain settling in and have you guys been? Have you been dealing with that a lot. today?

Brandon  52:58

I don't even know where we're at. So, like, we're thinking about going outside for reason. They're like your kids are like it's been raining. It's like what? Oh, why? Yes. It has Look at their eyes on my blinds shut. Right inside. didn't even look outside. I wasn't paying attention. I just was working in stuff today. So I have no so yeah, it was raining is very cold. Very blah. As we call it tomorrow. I think I remember. Yes. This much rain too much. All the rain. Not all. But I mean, oh, let's see. This is Missouri. So you're supposed to say. That's good. For sure. Sure. Do you need it? Or need it? That's good.

53:46

That's the official. Don't say that. You know,

Brandon  53:49

don't say that. It's against the law. Right? You have to say? Absolutely. Sure. Sure. That time sure. Do. You need some rain? Yeah. Oh,

53:58

we needed this. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Forgot. Oh, yeah, it's important. Then if you can put your hands on your hips and just stare out kind of distance for a little bit better if you

Brandon  54:11

can hook your thumbs into your overalls. Right? That really I bet really gives you a knowing countenance of, of weathering,

54:21

or just slightly hanging your hands out of your out of your pockets that will do as well

Brandon  54:27

as the two or I guess if you don't have overalls, you can hook your thumbs into your belt loops. Right? Yes. That's a kind of gaze into the middle distance at the horizon. Squint slowly. Right. Yeah. Looks makes you look very neat. Your article. It's exactly. Fortune teller. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. It's better if you can pick up some dust in your hand and slowly let it fall by watching the wind direction. Right. That'll help Don't remember what movie that's from this definitely like nine movies where they do that is

55:07

at least at least nine. Yes, exactly.

Brandon  55:09

I'm pretty sure it's a pretty accurate number.

55:14

No story checks out here. Let me ask Chet GPT real quick. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, no, that's checked out. Yes. That's yeah, that's what works.

Brandon  55:30

Ah, goodness. Yeah. Yeah, I haven't had anything else exciting. This week. It's nothing near as exciting as you apparently. Well,

55:38

I don't know. I mean, you have kind of a slight existential crisis involved. I

Brandon  55:42

had extra surprises. But that's about it. Nothing else like super fantastic, right, just navigating a week. zany children being like, what's happening? What am I doing? Oh, yeah. We did do our marshmallow building project thing this week. So that was interesting. It's always interesting to watch this, right. Just because I don't help them at all. stare at them. Looking at them. Although there was at least one group today, I probably should have helped a little bit because they were struggling like real bad. Oh, no. Was it?

56:23

Was it the how to put things together? Or was it? Yeah, conceptually, how to make a sound design?

Brandon  56:32

I think it was the conceptually part. Like I think it was the implementing the plan, right. So they had a plan. And then they completely disassembled their first plan, which is definitely where they went wrong. Right? Who Yeah, no, we could have worked with that we that was workable, what you had was okay. And then what we ended up with was not good. So it's a bit, it's a bit overheated, currently. But we'll give it a shot. See, if we test it anyway, just for, you know, green, let's get on, get on the deal. So, yeah, it's a very interesting to watch today than just trying to work through this process. And like, be confronted, again, watching them do things that are like, actually difficult for them. It's very interesting, right? Because, again, it's it's way outside of our normal, like, schoolwork, where we like, you know, read a thing, answer a question or like, try to work through a math problem, right? This is a very big step in a different direction, where it's like, oh, no, you have to build a tower that stands on itself. And so it's like, what's going on? Right, it's very, again, the other very interesting part of this is it there are like, you know, obviously, there's only so many ways that this works, right? There's not like, there's only a few designs that are like, probable, and that are going to be like, executable, right?

58:17

It's not a and like, yeah, there's not an immeasurable number of there's an infinite number of possibilities to make this work. No, like, true, truthfully. And it's, it's not actually beyond, like, their skill set, like the individual can, the constituent parts of making it work of, of putting a toothpick or whatever, into the thing, like, like, that's, that they can do this. It's just it's using as it's just beyond the comfort level, where it does stretch them to that.

Brandon  58:51

Yeah, because you can tell where, like, you can almost watch it go wrong. Right? You can see, like, the it starts out a lot of times this is not, this is not every time but often what will happen is it will start out pretty good. Right? There's a sound idea happening. And there's a pretty functional like structure happening right? And then they'll be they'll be a point where one thing starts to go wrong. Right? And then you can watch them chase that you can you can watch them chase that fix. Right? Oh, if I just do this, I can fix it. Oh, that messed this up. Now I'm going to fix and then you can, you can almost you what you can do is you can watch how they put the bracing in these things. And you can see so you can watch him chase this problem. Right? Yeah. And instead of like, ripping it out and putting something new in there. They just continue to chase down this issue and continue to just like slap fixes on it. And it just does. This is a good metaphor for life right here. And it just doesn't work. Right? You can watch the there'll be one part of their building where there's like one marshmallow, right? But it has like, nine toothpicks stuck in it. Right. And if you if you have a marshmallow and you stick like three toothpicks in it, it is totally fine. And nothing really bad is going to happen there. When you start sticking a whole bunch more in there. Right when you ended up with nine, now you're now you're you could watch your marshmallow just like your joint your crux of your whole fix is like slowly disintegrate. Yeah. What happens? Is your building, right? You can you can watch one, it starts to like buckle. Right? So imagine, imagine a rectangle, okay, one side of that rectangle starts to fold in on itself. And then you can just watch it, kind of start a core orienting down into the side. And it will just give in it just like buckles and knees in on itself and just starts slowly falling in, like this weird slow motion into this pile. You can like predict, like, where it's going to happen, almost used to be like, it's gonna be right there. I could see. Oh, look at the problem. But can they see the problem? No, they will not know that I have the benefit of seeing very many of these. Yeah,

1:01:52

you do get it, you get an unfair advantage.

Brandon  1:01:56

Right. But they've never done this before. So it's a very interesting thing to watch. Just like, oh, oh, no, that's where it's gonna go wrong. Right there. Yeah, right, chase it down or chase it down. Some of them can be saved, right? Like we did. Because the marshals will like, because you leave them out overnight. So they do kind of like harden in the air. Yeah, they get like stale on you. And so they kind of firm up, they dry out, they get more stiff, like, so you can do a couple things. Like if you if you lay the building down on its side. Sometimes that will help save it, right, because now gravity isn't trying to destroy it while it's hardening. Sure. And then when you put it up, it will it will stand a little bit better. Right. But I found the other answers the other pro tip. All you listeners out there who are building towers out of marshmallows and toothpicks, right? If your tower collapses, right? What one thing that you can do is if you grab them, because I make them attached to a base right? That if you turn it upside down, it will start stretching back out. And you can see all the structural weak points because they like start folding out. So you can look and see like ah, there it is. I found it is it is it crumbles like it accordions out and like elongate again, because it's like, like decompressing, basically. So yeah, but you can watch the joints. And you can go up. There it is, I see it. I see the the first weak spot right there. Yes, because it'll like unfold in this like really interesting way. So you can by by literally taking it and flipping it in a different direction by changing the orientation. You can look and diagnose the problem and see where it went wrong. It's very interesting to do that. I do that sometimes when they're there. It's very fun well,

1:04:14

you kind of kind of remind me I was I've been thinking about this this quote recently apparently it's kind of common in the NASA and astronauts of what's what is it there is no problem so bad that you can't make it worse. And

Brandon  1:04:36

that's true board for tomorrow.

1:04:40

And I love that because it's a reminder of like, look like you need to like you can you can definitely be a major problem in anything going on and just because you're involved doesn't mean it's gonna get better. So like you have to try mean, practice, learn, seek help, like work together kind of mentality of like, just because anyway, I've just been thinking about that a lot because of so many times that like, Oh, I'm in over my head kind of like, oh, here I am of like, Yeah, going into a problem going. I have to be careful with this because I can definitely and I have made matters much worse because I started mucking around and flexing right, like, Absolutely, absolutely. So sometimes I didn't need to, I need to get out of there and try a different approach entirely, which is kind of what you're talking about of like, they kind of start chasing this and like, Well, it worked the first three times, so I added three. So maybe if I had 20 It'll be better. And it's like, yeah, no time for a different approach here.

Brandon  1:05:48

Yeah, yeah. Rip it out. Start over. So yeah, um, anyway,

1:05:57

I've just been, I've been thinking about that quote, kind of in relation to, well, a lot of things if I'm being honest. Yeah. True.

Brandon  1:06:07

True, but boy, you that's a good one. I'm going to put that on the board. Yes, no, sorry. It

1:06:19

was it was Nope. There's no problem so bad. You can't make it worse. Yes.

Brandon  1:06:24

I've Googled it. I like it. So I forget who I forget who actually who actually did say this attribute it attributes it to Chris Hadfield Hadfield, okay. That is, yeah. Yeah. That sounds I don't know. Yes. Yes. I actually don't know. I would have said that's this. Oh, yeah. That's the Yeah, okay. I would I saw his picture here. It's like, the astronaut mustache got it. Okay. Because I recognize him. That's never know. But like, I I recognize who that is. Right. Like I just recognize his picture. Okay. Yes. I've seen him at night. A bunch stuff. And all over the place here. Oh. You, you will recognize them all. So let me share image. No app with that. Why would I do that? Put them? That would be real weird. So this is somebody else completely out of context. That would be real fun.

1:07:36

I don't know.

Brandon  1:07:43

Watch this message. That's when my friends like, oh, no, no, no, no. Let's do that. Okay, okay. Yeah. See? The mustache guy? Yeah. All

1:07:59

including Wikipedia page here.

Brandon  1:08:06

I have been

1:08:08

speaking of sending random things to people that aren't involved at all, I get a lot of spam calls to our business line. And so I pick it when I answer them. I see em in the eye start in the middle of a conversation to somebody else. And this has been, this has been really nice, and really good. I had three spam calls today. And the problem is,

Brandon  1:08:28

here's the thing.

1:08:30

Because our business is listed on Google, if we and because we have a Google business number associated with that, if we don't pick up a this is very important. If we don't pick up it dings, our response call percentage or whatever. And that hurts how high they rank us on the Google My Business listing. Really? Yes. How

Brandon  1:08:58

weird is that? Oh, it's terrible.

1:09:01

So yeah, I don't like this. This is not fun. So I have to answer. And so I had a snowman. I was trying to talk with a guy I just picked up random name of Kenny. And I was trying to get Kenny to go ahead and get back with get in touch with me and that he needed to schedule me and this is you know that anyway, it was somebody the guy I was trying to get ahold of Kenny and the guy the spam caller actually put me on hold back and came back in with no that's that's not us. Like that's not us. And I was like, Okay, well you tell Katie. I'm waiting for him at six o'clock.

Brandon  1:09:46

Oh, it's good. Makes me happy. So that's what I

1:09:51

get to do now. And hopefully they'll just start building. Hopefully, they won't. As long as they know they've got a live one on the other end. That's true. They know you're going to end Sir, I know somebody's gonna answer. Yeah, just

Brandon  1:10:03

come back to the Back to the Future three references, right, so it'll be okay.

1:10:07

So that's my next get well, so I have to so my next. So a couple different things one, I'm going to ask them, I'm going to be asking them for directions to the hospital. That's what I'm going to I'm going to ask them to help give me Google directions, then I was just going to start reading the the terrible, better business reviews on them, because it's the same company that calls every time. And so I'm just going to have screenshots of everybody who's writing terrible things about the company and that's all I'm going to respond with to them when they asked me questions like it. And then my my third one said that you smell like, it's almost harassment every time. And then, then I was gonna do movie quotes, just do nothing but movie quotes, is

Brandon  1:10:57

my is my plan. Like, you know, anyway. This is a good plan. I see that.

1:11:08

I don't know if it's good, or bad. I

Brandon  1:11:10

mean, it's a plan at least. So there's that but, anyway, my fun stuff. Now, there's a lot of fun stuff. Yeah. Well, I think with that probably, like, call it a on anything. That's true. I guess you could do that. Or I could give you one more option when dealing with your spam callers you could recite for them. I do. Ah, ha ha. Oh, yes. Okay,

1:11:51

I like this option. I only respond in haikus.

Brandon  1:11:55

Yes. Right. So this week's Haiku, Thanksgiving themed right, since I wrote it, Thanksgiving. Nailed it. So here we go. And it said confections abound. raucous laughter shakes the wall. plates and forks. licked clean

1:12:30

irregardless good. Hey, that the first line kind of it doesn't seem as because confections is theirs to steal syllables. It's a little, little awkward little

Brandon  1:12:47

it makes the line length look a bit odd. I don't really Yes, but But it's slab ugly. Okay. It looks a little bit weird. No, those

1:12:59

are perfect. Okay, well, I have quite a few things to read these people now this is good.

Brandon  1:13:09

And you can write a new one. Next I will

1:13:11

should hold on to it. Please. Please hold like Oh, again. I'll say please hold on. Oh, are when jpg When? When so? When they answer, I will respond with Hi, haiku helpline. How can I help you

Brandon  1:13:31

that you should just like pick it up and then just be like, please hold for Jim. And then. Oh, I never take them off.

1:13:39

No, I'll just say hi. Can you hold like this? Oh, and then I'll just pretend to be the waiting music and like, just recite poems. Perfect. Okay, well, I may have to get a setup this I may have to this is going to require something.

1:14:08

Yeah, so write your Haiku. So you're ready. Ready to go? Yes.

1:14:12

Okay. This is what I'm doing. Okay. Well, with that excitement and anticipation coming up. We will. We'll do this again. Yes. Okay. Love you.

Brandon  1:14:26

Let me do right.