rock repatriation
We have a totally organic intro at 6 minutes in. Just call us “Professional Podcasters”. Aaron is watching hockey. Brandon is repatriating rocks. Collin has Jeep updates. We take a few moments for a headphone review and end with a discussion about the ASVAB and military service.
Hockey season and deep cleaning
Signed baseballs
Professionally Developed
Making space for rocks..space rocks…
Rock repatriation
Vertical chakra alignment
Actually it’s education
Tables with no legs
Hogs and CWD
Oversharing
Jeep update!!!
Headphone talk
ASVAB and YOU??!?!?
Military service...much respect...not for us...
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headphones, understand, talk, high school, sat, feral hogs, science, test, important, trophy, fine, rocks, nice, literally, missouri, military, people, fold, point, air pods
SPEAKERS
Collin, Aaron, Brandon
Collin 00:05
Welcome to Oh brother, a podcast of three brothers trying to figure it all out with your hosts, Brandon, Coleman and Aaron. On this week's show. Rock repatriation.
00:20
Hi, Aaron.
00:23
Hello. Hello. What are we doing? We're starting.
Collin 00:32
Starting right at the six minute mark is what we just did. Boom. Perfect.
00:37
You wait a second. Just because
Collin 00:40
like, no, it's because we were sitting here like I shouldn't say anything interesting. Because air is not here yet. So it was just sort of a b collagen like so. Yep. Nothing So anyway, now, how you been? start the show the organic start. It's fine. Don't worry. Yes. care. I mean, my as Bab my as bad scores in high school told me I should be a radio host. And so here we are. Here we are. Many years later. Just a few coming to fruition.
01:24
I didn't know that when we get here. Well, yeah.
Collin 01:29
Hooray for that. We can talk about that later. Maybe we could talk about what the heck is aza but yeah, that's Yeah, so here we go. My ASVAB
01:35
dreams come true. See, kids. dreams do come true. Aaron, what's
01:41
up? What's up?
Collin 01:41
What's exciting? What are you watching right now?
Aaron 01:43
Um, well, I'm trying to hook up my work computer gonna do some some typing while we talk. I got busy. So I tried to get all my stuff connected to my monitor, and I accidentally set on my mouse so we might have some problems. Don't talk about
Collin 02:07
is it at least a wireless mouse, isn't it? I
02:11
know.
Collin 02:13
Aaron, you're in danger.
02:17
It's fine. It's fine. It's fine. I got I said, I said it badly wrong. I am fine. We're fine. Everything is
Collin 02:30
Oh, okay. Not my definition of okay. But
02:36
you know, we What did we talk?
Collin 02:43
Just a few days ago. That's true. I mean, it's been a long time listeners. Obviously not it's time not just four days and yes, it podcast. It was a week ago. Get with it dude.
03:01
Started So getting back into that. And then this weekend, we did some like hardcore deep cleaning of the apartment. shelves, which is super sketchy. I don't really trust my handiwork, though. They're just, it's there. What are they? Like? They don't they're the shell that don't have like the things underneath them. Like a floating shelves. Oh, yeah, we got some of those. And I am I like those petrified, and just hanging hanging above my desk. They look really cool. But I was like, well, don't
Collin 03:42
put your bowling ball clocks in there. And I think he'll be frustrated
03:45
one time, but I'm just kind of like, staring at it. Like, you know,
Collin 03:52
my follow up question now is art. What is going to go on these pretending that they're definitely 100% sturdy? And not likely at all? Any moment? Were you planning on putting just like bubbles on like a decorative shelf? Or was this gonna be like, books on all the feather collection?
04:10
Obviously. This was going so I have I have I have a new one. And that's mostly like pictures or some of my little Funko Pop stuff. Okay, and maybe like an E book or two. The bigger one was going to be more like baseball stuff. Because I say that. And let's see here. Going through all those signs baseball that Mimi just accumulated over the years. We have a stand we have a damn usual.
Collin 04:47
Sign baseball hear some say some say his name is Stan
04:51
Stan Stan Musial Sandman, musical. Yes. We have it signed. I'm literally looking at it right now. And so I was like I need to, because it's been sitting in dad's garage for like, ever. And so I need to make it look pretty it literally just like, did it like put it up on this little shelf thing. And that's what I was mostly gonna put up here was put some of those little
05:17
memorabilia thing
05:18
Yeah. Yeah, no this is this is 100% book. sure you're.
Collin 05:24
You're like first grade baseball trophy collection. Yeah. Like
05:31
that's just hit my head on my shelf.
Collin 05:34
sturdy is sturdy, is it? Yeah. That was a good follow you're good at this.
05:44
Those trophies are in the home homestead closet. So that's where they will remain. And
Collin 05:59
I think you should just have like a big line of all your
06:02
stack them from this. Like?
06:05
Yeah, like
Collin 06:07
trophies just like lightning.
06:13
You could get a
Collin 06:14
blu ray movies into a larger trophy to create a piece of artwork.
06:19
Whoa, like a trophy pyramid a trophy beer and melt them down. Together.
Collin 06:24
Yeah. Plastic down.
06:26
The Blessing out of one. plastic. Yeah. Perfect. Perfect.
Collin 06:35
Just, you can roll into a ball and be like, no, it's totally baseball. It's fine.
06:40
It's fine. Some of those little like, old track trophies somewhere. I'll put it I'll put them up there and there's little metals. That I gotta say we all track trophies. I
Collin 06:52
got ribbons. I got ripped off.
06:55
I have like a trophy somewhere. But I'm pretty sure there are more medals or they're the little bike. Really cheap. Like, metals. I got.
Collin 07:10
I just got like a ribbon. Here's your ribbon. Wow. Thanks. All of mine were blue because they were all participation. I mean, I have a couple of blue from winning first, but like third, like coolest third. Just want always wanted.
07:30
Yay.
07:31
Whatever.
Collin 07:34
Like why even why even?
07:36
Um, yeah, other than that, that's what I've been been up to. Getting more organized, making the place look prettier. And trying not to drowned in work other than that. Well, yeah, that's more difficult. Right? Isn't that not do that? Sweet. Very nice. Yeah. Yeah.
Collin 08:02
I didn't want to record yesterday because we had yesterday was a PD day. So professional development. Oh, yeah. So again, that's like, a sad day where I just go in.
08:13
And it's like, meeting day. Most of the day.
Collin 08:22
Yesterday was a little bit better because it was meetings, like until lunch. And then basically after lunch, he was like,
08:29
Okay, well, you can
Collin 08:33
stay until your contract time and you can go home. So I had to like I was in I was in my room. I did some reorganizing of my shelving. I dug some stuff out of one of my cabinets were like, what is this? What the heck is you're still finding again? Oh, yeah, that's still I just moved into a different cabinet because I need space for my rocks because I got to put them away. So I was like, why does this go here? So I shoved all that stuff. I didn't know what it was to a different cabinet. Perfect. I did that. And then I spent a lot of time repatriating our rocks that we collected back to out of doors. So that took a while.
09:12
A lot of fun.
Collin 09:13
Why, how? What is the process look like?
09:18
It looks like me.
Collin 09:21
Taking a cardboard box. filling it with rocks until like, it's not too heavy to actually carry. Cuz, you know, sometimes I get overzealous, and I'm gonna put all these rocks. Nope, nope, no, not just kidding. And then
09:39
wandering outside,
Brandon 09:41
down to the woods that are by the school, and then a little creek bed there and flinging the rocks in back into their natural environment. This releasing them into the wild. That's what I'm doing. So It'd take a while though, I'd take many trips. So that took a long time. That graded to favor a couple things. I was like, Okay, well
Collin 10:12
done now. So it was very taxing, like, the morning was a very like, because we had like a whole staff meeting about just like, general things about like how things are going and whatever. Including our current response to global crises and the like, right. What could you be talking about? Oh, yeah, it's fine, everything's fine.
10:44
And like,
Collin 10:49
like vaccine rollout in Missouri now includes where to the point where it includes teachers. So we had like, information about what that might look like, it was very vague information, obviously, that kind of deal. And then it was, like, when we were met with I like learning, we're called Learning teams. So just like I go, and hang out with other science teachers,
11:16
you know, what
Collin 11:20
they are doing? They are revisiting our vertical alignment. Right. So that means that means, like, subject, like yesterday, they met
11:33
with
Collin 11:34
the entire elementary teachers met with the case is that 612 math team? And they talked about the structure of the math curriculum from kindergarten to 12th grade. Uh huh. Okay, and what that looks like, and where are we seeing problems? Like, where? Where are we getting to? And then teachers noticing like, Yo, what, why are the kids getting to sixth grade, and they can't multiply, but you know, like, this kind of thing. So trying to make sure that that structure goes all the way down.
12:09
Right.
Collin 12:11
So that's fun. We've done that before. But the focus was really on when we did it a few years ago, was quite a few years ago. Now. I feel like, the big focus was on reading and writing. Because that's like, Oh, my gosh, that's like everything, you know? Yeah. And then, um, they also did it with math. So they were just revisiting math first. Because they do reading and writing a lot. They talked about that all the time. Then they revisited math yesterday, allegedly, in the future, we're gonna have a meeting about science.
12:43
Which is going to be interesting. Cuz, like, in the elementary school,
Collin 12:54
below below me, obviously, because I'm technically elementary where I sit, but like, we'll say k four.
13:03
I don't.
Collin 13:05
I don't know about I've, I'm very unsure about how much if any science instruction is happening.
13:13
Like it all,
Collin 13:14
yeah. Or if it is science instruction, it's been incorporated into, like reading stuff. So it's not like direct like science time, you know, you're so they're like reading about some concepts. But we're not like, that's not the focus. So by the time they get to fifth grade, all of a sudden, it's like, hey, you're in fifth grade, you got to take a science test for the state. Fine, if you haven't had like, direct science instruction, yeah, right. The stuff that you have to talk about in fifth grade is like the top tier stuff. And if you have no foundational information, it's like, what? None of this makes any sense to me. Yeah. And I see that in sixth grade, because I get sixth grade. And because science is in the teaching world, we call it like spiraled. Right. So like, let's say you, you teach a topic in third grade, maybe you don't teach that exact same topic in fourth, or fifth grade. But that concept then shows up again, in sixth grade. So it's that same concept, but now with another layer of detail. Right? So it's like, you learn the basic concept somewhere down the road. When that spiral gets back to that, again, I think about like a, like a, just a spiral staircase, right? Yeah. When you get back to that same point, you are now doing that concept, but with a higher difficulty of like, thinking or higher level thinking with more added detail and more level of explanation. Sure, right. Yeah. So when they get to me, we'll talk about some stuff. And they have absolutely no context. For most of it. Oh, no in a lot of Various, and we're talking about like energy and you know, stuff like that. And they're like, I have never heard of this.
15:08
About what about motion? horse? No. Okay.
Collin 15:15
Like, I understand if you have not heard about, like, the very specific details of my curriculum, right, like I understand if you haven't, if you haven't learned about geologic timescale yet, that's fine. Because that's what I'm going to teach you now. Right? Or, like the current subjects, I'm I'm like, I understand if you don't know, the explanation for how does
15:39
like wind,
Collin 15:42
create weather patterns, because that's the thing that I'm going to be focusing on. But you have to have some stuff to help bolster that up, right. It's like, trying to make a table with no legs, quit.
15:56
What is, you know, how awful.
Collin 15:58
So we are going, there's allegedly, at some point, I'm going to be a science meeting.
16:06
And
Collin 16:09
it'll be interesting. Right?
16:12
Well,
Collin 16:13
I understand why, you know, we've been focusing on like, how to phrase these things, these concerns that we have, and not and like, not an attacking type of way.
16:29
Because like,
Collin 16:30
I understand, in third grade, we have a very, it's a different time schedule, than sixth grade, right. In sixth grade, I have one hour carved out of my day for science, and insert, great, we have a lot less ancillary things we have to do. Right, we're on a tighter schedule, we don't have this weird transition time for like, taking a long time to go. Like I don't have to take my class, all together wholesale to do a bathroom break. Right? I mean, that's an elementary, third, second and third grade, you have to do that. And so your timetable is different. So that at plus, you have to vie for all this other stuff. I understand that. I understand that we have no developed science curriculum for that grade level, probably. So you're just kind of in the dark about what to do? Sure. I understand. Well, that's why we won't have the meeting to be like, hey, these are the main topics that we think are important.
17:37
They'll show up later, right.
Collin 17:40
And I understand that, it is not feasible. Because I imagine like, you know, this is lower elementary teachers not always comfortable with science subject matter.
17:55
So like,
Collin 17:57
in a in the lower grades, that curriculum is really important, because you kind of have to lean on that. Because you cannot be expected to be a an expert in five different fields. Right, because the elementary teacher, yeah, I think that's unfair, right? Whereas,
18:18
whereas
18:20
us in the six through 12, land,
18:24
we rely on the
Collin 18:25
expertise part. Right, because that's all we teach, basically, right is a science of some kind. So like, that's where we live, we live in the other side of that we live in the expertise side, like our curriculum, we just sort of, it doesn't, we don't lean on it as heavily. We don't have you know, we don't need things like pre made as much. Because we can just go, oh, we're gonna do this, because I know about, you know, whatever. So, like, how to broach this and be like, Hey, guys, we understand it's cool. We are here to actually we want to, like you have questions about it, come and talk to us, we will help you, like, understand, help out stuff to do, you know, and then at the same time being like, hey, also, like, encouraging, like, all these things, you know, these things that we talked about, like engagement and problem solving, and that stuff that we have trouble with and other subjects, guess, guess what? science can help you? Right? Because we are like, just making observations, right? That's it. So we're practicing like, you know, making those observations or practicing critical thinking, like, Well, why did that happen? What do you think? Right? Why do that? Plus, we kind of have a bonus of like, we can help build some of that like scholastic confidence. Because you know, the best part about science is like, can you be quote unquote, wrong? No, not I'm not afraid to experiment, like, get me wrong, you just, it's just whatever happened. You have to write down what happened. It's not right or wrong. It's just the result. So that kind of like it's freeing, in a sense. And if you can get kids to kind of start thinking in that way, that translates well to like math for later because you won't be so scared of like, Oh, my gosh, when I get the wrong answer,
20:26
you'll just be like,
Collin 20:28
well, that answer doesn't make sense. What happened? what's what's messed up? Right? That's a different thought process, then, oh, no, I'm
20:34
wrong.
Collin 20:36
Because the Oh no, I'm wrong is like paralyzing and fearful. And you don't want to do stuff. Because you're afraid to be wrong, because then there's this whole negative connotation of being wrong. But like, if you can think about like,
20:49
Oh, that's not the answer I expected to get.
Collin 20:53
That's a whole different mindset. And now you're on a path to be more successful, just in general in school. So that's how we're hoping to phrase it. I don't know if it'll come across that way. Yeah, so Well, I'm sure I'm sure. Yeah, that is that is hard to write to come, come forward. But I think opening yourself up and like making it a little bit more collaborative. And being open to allowing some work on your end as well, like, hey, if you have questions about this content, or, you know, this is, I think, I think boiling it down to like, the absolute essentials and already framing it in like the age appropriate manner. But yeah, you know, and, but you can only do so much of that work if they're gonna take it a certain way. Right? Yeah. It's, it's tricky. And like, you know, yeah, again, trying to frame is like, Hey, we want we want to, like, we want collaboration to be a resource for everybody. We don't you know, nobody wants to be like, Hey, why don't you teach us better? And then like, right, that's it. That's not helpful. Yeah. Hopefully, one of the positives we have going for us is our assistant principal, is kind of the guy who's running this spearheading this effort right now. And he is like, a super into science guy already. And he's, he's been in my class, like many times, and I've talked to him about this issue a lot in the past. And like, you know, he's expressed the same thing of like,
22:31
I can't believe they didn't
Collin 22:32
have any idea what you're talking about, like, I know. He's like, you know, so I was like, I thought surely they would have known some of that by now. Like, me, too. But that's not how it is. And here and yet, and yet, here we are. Yeah. So that was very taxing yesterday morning. Plus, then like, just staff meetings and stuff. Eating No, that we had. Plus, because I'm in the elementary school, there's always a certain point where they're like, Alright, now we're going to do a
23:11
fun activity.
Collin 23:16
Our definition of fun is not the same. So like, I don't really know, a lot this is like, now. I gotta go right now. No, I'm, I spilled my drink. Oh, hold on. We'll be right back in front of me. Like
23:41
Yeah,
Collin 23:42
we have. So we had a staff meeting today. And it was they're trying to do a it was a regional meeting, and to show over communication amongst regions, and how everyone's library together is great. Yeah, it's terrible. Especially since they're trying to make it like a, like an interview style show to like, the two people were in the same room and they had to call No. And so they were like, you know, the person was like, so tell me about the exciting news you have. And then the camera would cut to the other person who was staying there reading off of their paid, they're like, I'm very excited to talk to you about engine earring today. It was really bad, whatever we all know all it was was we're so excited to talk to you about the Missouri hog population. hogs were mentioned. See, I do have an MDC meeting without that it's literally impossible now in their bylaws now that you must
24:49
the mission statement, the mission statement
24:52
with a recent update on the high population
Collin 24:56
of Missouri if we are going to rename the department soon Department of feral hog control.
25:03
It's funny you should say that.
25:05
Oh, no, no, no, it's
Collin 25:08
just if you look at where money is spent, and man hours and woman hours, resources of people devoted, it is CWT in feral hogs. That that's it. Those are the two big things and infrastructure asset management, which just means they are trying to count how many buildings and doorknobs they have. So you've got this door, you've got these feral hogs and, and CW D. And that's where everything's devoted. And so we recently had a fisheries biologists guy retire, and he sent this long green of an email and just hit copy all the MDC all
25:54
or no,
Collin 25:56
it's like two pages of like, can't believe what direction the department's heading. And we've lost focus of all things. Unless it's CWT and feral hogs.
26:09
He was like,
26:10
he saw him out and retired the next day.
26:13
No, yeah, no, I will, I will concede that.
Collin 26:21
For those new listeners joining us, cw D stands for Chronic Wasting Disease. It is a disease a hyper infectious disease that affects deer populations, and it is terrible. We did but you know, we always have new listeners joining us. And so I'm getting this from all across the globe. Yeah, maybe the people, maybe our good friends in Singapore don't know about Chronic Wasting Disease, which means a mutated or a defunct protein that is highly contagious. Yeah, it's weirdly contagious. There is no known cure, and it will just decimate
27:03
deer populations.
Collin 27:05
And so monitoring this is very important, as we've talked about invasive species. dangerous to ecosystems. So the hog in this case, Missouri is the one much less glamorous than a one that's on our list to talk about possibly today. Who knows. But it does like devastate forest populations. So these are important things. But like if you're thinking about conservation and ecology as a whole thing. That's not quite enough to help maintain like healthy populations yourself. And also I can understand why fisheries biologists be very upset about that, because neither of those two things have anything to do and like zero effect on fisheries. So, right fisheries just got to keep doing their thing, man. Well, and you know, that's part of it, too. You know, we've been told, well, if, if Pogs, and hogs take over, there's no, you know, it doesn't matter what we do it. It'll, you know, it doesn't matter what we do, the strains are hogs everywhere. The watersheds are trashed, and you can't take care of fish, you got to take care of the watersheds, you got to take care of the hog. The hogs number 30. Understand that all good fun. But it's just like, come on. But the real funny part was, is that they were introducing a new hire today. And he started out by saying, Tell us a little bit about your background.
28:35
Well, I used to be in
Collin 28:37
law enforcement, but because of some circumstances, I had to retire, and I'm very excited about my time now at MDC. Yeah, if that is a good point, if you're trying to make a first impression with somebody, maybe don't lead with I was forced to resign due to an incident, like maybe
29:05
leave that part out for now. Right? It was, first of all for transparency,
Collin 29:11
right. But like, maybe that shouldn't be the first thing you bring up. Maybe you just say, I was in law enforcement. And now I'm very excited to be contributing to the Department of Defense. Yeah, that's fine. That's good. That's, that's okay. We have you don't have to say yeah, because of circumstances. I had to retire. And this good because now I think, like, worst case scenario only right. I think like, I know, like, who leads with leads. So anyway, if you're one of those like crazy, crooked cops from a movie or something, and you're like, yeah, they finally caught me. So
29:49
like,
Collin 29:52
I know, right? I just Ah, so that was like, yeah, shot a kid. So I gotta go. Like What Did you What did you shoot? What did you Yeah, like what the heck, man? So we call oversharing. Talking about sixth grade sometimes, like, there's some things we don't just need to tell everybody. I felt really uncomfortable at that moment, though. But that was fun. And then I have another Jeep update. They tell you my Oh, no, they take my list Jeep up?
30:33
No. Is it?
30:35
Is it? How many pieces? Is that currently?
Collin 30:40
Did you sell it? You get it. That might be the best deep update, or it's on 35 inch wheels right now. Yeah, I wouldn't got a four inch lift.
30:55
No, no,
Collin 30:57
no. So we're driving home from dinner the other night. And oh, my gosh, driving home. And I have to turn right. And this is ever so much of a slight uphill. And so I make the turn, and then put my foot on the gas to go because I take it off as I turn it kind of coast through I put my foot on the gas fair in the engine doesn't respond. I look down and I'm in Drive. I look over it car is on. But their engine is not running. And, and also I looked down and it's like, low voltage warning. And because the batteries on and things being drained. And I'm like,
31:42
what the car just
Collin 31:45
got out. And everything was being run on the battery. And so I was I shifted into, I was still coasting, and I shifted into Park started it started right up. And I kept driving it like at 20 miles an hour or less than that because I was cornering it just cut out and just nothing. But all the lights and everything. We're still running because they're being run off the battery. I don't I don't know. So I was doing some investigating work.
32:16
Apparently,
Collin 32:17
Chrysler Fiat engines have a wonderful, wonderful safety feature for you that
32:22
if they think
Collin 32:23
your oil is low, the engine will shut off. But what
32:31
if they think how's that helpful? Because you won't blow a head gasket and your engine Won't I mean in the UK, so but like
Collin 32:38
are you telling me that your oil is a little bit low? You went around a gentle curve. It sloshed to one side of the pan. Your car went?
32:49
Africa and this stop.
32:52
So I checked my Oh, that was telling me. I check my oil. It's not a little bit low. It's fine. But
33:02
oh no, your sensor is bad.
33:05
This is bad. I don't know. I have no idea. Oh, my God. Man, I don't want to run anymore. Yeah, I
Collin 33:15
think it's time to sell that thing. Man. You gotta get out of that right now. LandCruiser here will tell you baby. This is it. This is the time. Yep, making the move. I was gonna say my dodge a long time ago used to do that. But that's because it was like carbureted right. And if you took a corner too fast, the gas like would inject into the thing. And I did this one time. I was like guard around the corner and I like tried to accelerate and it just went oh died. Yeah, like, go around the corner. So my car a giant 6 million pound car. Like all of a sudden has no power steering, power brakes. firebreaks like,
33:56
Ah
Collin 34:00
it's a terrifying experience. Like obviously, you gotta turn the wheel. It's just like,
34:04
like, pulling on a rock. Like, Oh, no.
Collin 34:13
That happened to me a few times. Yeah, that was exciting. That was exciting adventure. This is Oh, this only happened once. So we did that one time my negative battery cable was like janky right and I did the battery cable like moved a little bit and just cut all electrical power to the engine. So that's the only thing I checked I checked because I don't know what I haven't done yet because I haven't taken and gotten the battery tested and see if the battery like roof fault or something and just short anything out. I don't know. But you just do that was driving though. Yeah, while driving because it'll do that. Like it won't start it'll be like Haha, no. So yeah, like I'm not recharging. I'm just only discharging. Nothing is happening. Literally No idea. But that was a fun update.
34:59
That was very fun. That was an update. I got. I
Collin 35:03
got those new headphones. Those new Sony. Yeah jarocin if I was six hashtag not sponsored hashtag not sponsored yet.
35:12
Yeah, Sony.
35:15
Oh yeah.
Collin 35:18
Yeah update product update cuz I also needs new headphones, but because like, I don't know, I'm always gonna look for them.
35:26
Sure so how, how are they with stuff?
Collin 35:31
Well I can definitely tell you a scent, they make everything sound a lot different than my other ones. The other ones add just more bass than I even noticed. So I, I was switching up some mixes as I was going back and editing some recent episodes they're a lot more flat a lot more neutral than before. Okay, then my other ones I really like the cup shape, because they're actually your shape. You know, they're tall, they're taller, instead of just being round. And so they fit. They fit my head a lot nicer than and, and something I didn't know I wanted so much was the little coyly. A wire. It's coiled.
36:21
Yeah, that's
36:22
nice. It's really nice. Well, because you can like
36:25
whack it. If it doesn't like yank out of
Collin 36:30
your head, I don't have yards of cable all over the place either, right? Because it is true. I, I'm literally I mean from from me to my mixer is like, what, two and a half feet. And so I don't go very far 80 feet of headphone cable prior, like, trip over it. Not necessary, not necessary.
36:54
It is weird for me, since I'm using wireless headphones, that it these are kind of the first real wireless I've ever used. So it is very, I don't know, I'm just conditioned to where like, if I get up with headphones, I have to like, grab the phone, and the cord and kind of go about my way. But like, earlier today, I was in the living room, I was just listening to music and I just like got up, went to the kitchen and get a drink. And I was like, whoa. And I didn't have to bring my phone with me. Or anything. I could just like set it over there. Just
Collin 37:31
this is something I discovered in 2021 ladies and gentlemen.
37:38
I never really I never really liked like, air pods or anything because I was afraid I would always lose them. And so I have a you know, just like brown. And then I have like another set that I used to listen for music like all the time and that chord is like 20 feet long. But now I'm just like, true. I can I can go over here and
Collin 38:00
I just don't like it one more thing that I have to charge and I don't care I don't want that in my life and so annoying. So I just like wired headphones, they're just easier because like I said I don't want to charge them charging things. It's so annoying like just work. Why? So that's why like wired headphones. I mean they're handy like you said they're really convenient for like, around because I have some while I had that has wireless they broke my head to fat. I think I broke thing but like, basically like wash dishes second, okay, washing dishes, got some tunes on whatever given stuff. It's fine. Not annoying Susan with like really obnoxious music, right? Because she's like, yeah, so I'm interested that the only problem like I kind of don't want to buy like, studio style headphones, because I need them for like
38:57
multipurpose.
Collin 39:00
keynote because I do use my headphones to listen to music and other media. So I'm not sure
39:12
how that would be.
39:13
I don't know.
Collin 39:14
Well, I think it's gonna depend on what you're listening to. I mean, I think the I mean, stoner rock, didn't you see that? Obviously what I was too all the time now. I think the one the one thing is that even though they are flat, I don't know if they have enough low end. Right. So they may be slightly biased towards the higher end of things. And if that throws you off, I don't know. But I overall I guess I could actually own two pairs of headphones I'd probably be fine eventually. I will say why and for like other media stuff. Like if I watch it, sometimes I'll watch it like when I watch the shows and stuff on my laptop or whatever. I just use headphones. So that wouldn't be so bad because it wouldn't be. The bass response isn't really necessary for that. It's just like flat talking or,
40:09
like a set of headphones that have like a normal like, phone jack is like my gaming headphones that I used to love that actually had or what I used to, on tests with a head like Google microphone and speaker. Oh, yes. Yes. So like, if I hadn't, if I had one that had like a connector to a phone, I would use those a lot more. If I don't, nowadays, I don't really like use as for gaming, the only time I ever use, like headphones for like, videos or something, it's just through my phone. And so if I had something that connected through my phone easier, like for like gaming, or especially podcasting, because I just use my phone because it takes like too long to set up and then get my microphone set up. And I'm still trying to play out the space here. But if I had like a headphone jack for my phone, I would use those headsets more because they were actually like really comfortable. And they were like a two XL, like size wise and my head is gigantic.
Collin 41:09
Do Do they not have a wired option at all?
41:14
Like so they have a word option, but it's for a USB port.
Collin 41:21
Okay, so it's only USB. Okay, yes. So it has to have like another do they just have like the plug for the little jack? Because that's what the ones I'm wearing right now. They just you just have to have a separate cable, because these are like wireless compatible. They had like wireless, but they Yeah, I don't know that way. Because it annoys me, like I said, so I just plug in the I just bought a thing, a cable, and just boom, there you go.
41:48
So when I Well, I guess I also had it with my old laptop that would just take hours to load. So I was like, screw it. I don't need to do it and wonder with my new laptop. I haven't bothered us what we use for that. So I might have to try that next time. I think that way, because well, yeah, you got a new one. Yeah, just for just for like simplicity sakes, I just literally put on my phone, put my headphones in. And then what was my other headphones? Oh, this one's a little phone head jack thing. And then because it's terrible. These ones I live in this is the Bluetooth button off these out of this case. They're all charged and ready to go. And I just sit down and do whatever. But yeah, I need to try that with my new laptop to see if I get the sound and use those other headphones. I really like the sound provided with those. Yeah. Yeah,
Collin 42:43
I think I think these four being like, dedicated desk headphones for me. And more importantly, here, under $100. Like, we have to take that into consideration like other times, like mixing or like studio kind of headphones, getting something for under 100 bucks that works as well as these do. I'm really happy with them. Yeah, the other thing that I find really hard. If you're trying to find like, less expensive headphones, I always say like cheap because a lot of them are just like, they're so good quality. They're just less expensive. Right? So sure, let's say that. A lot of them are. I don't like the fact that they are foldable. You know, I mean, right. So I always that's a big turnoff for me because I see that as a structural weak point. And I taped it on and off so much and use them so much every day that I'm afraid of that spot. Right. And that doesn't, it's that's exacerbated by the fact that that is exactly where my last pair of headphones broke. Sure, because they did that. They snapped right on that thing. So like, I think I think you have to figure out where the stress point is, and how they're folding. Like, I so far like I had one of my previous pair where the cups would fold flat. And so you could lay the whole thing flat on it, but that's the only way they articulate it. But I thought that hinge was pretty darn sensitive. These the it has the the cups themselves are held on to arms on either side. And so the cups can articulate in and out and then but that's really the only articulation that they do. They just feel a lot more solid than ever. No I wouldn't I wouldn't travel with the right like yeah, they're not
44:38
travel headset at all. That's fair.
Collin 44:44
But I'm saying yeah, that's just I'm afraid of the folding. Yeah, no, yeah, these these aren't tech these don't i don't know what you mean by folding but like well, I like their collapse down. So the they these are the ones that like they do fold so you can travel with them. So like the band has hinge in it.
45:01
Oh yeah, no, yeah. And that folds
Collin 45:04
down. And a lot of them have that because that's like it the portability thinks it's like oh, I can take any so they kind of that band has a hinge that falls in so they kind of fold into a little bundle.
45:15
Yeah.
Collin 45:16
Yeah, there's usually some sort of bag associated with you put them in a thermal doodle whatever. Yeah, like yeah, I don't know the neither of mine had the band that folded at the last year I did had that so I'm trying You know, it wouldn't really matter if but like, I just kind of would rather not do that because I don't like a lot of stress in my life and be like Oh no. So like Well, I mean, that is something that you have to consider for sure. You know, it's not easy I'm not I don't go anywhere with him. Right I'm not gonna like bringing them anywhere so like
45:59
with me like either going to go work out in the gym like I got these two out driving all over the place or having to sit and like wait for people I can have to listen to the radio or I can select policies and or especially whenever if or when I do go to the office and I'm just sitting there like just doing nothing but I think like I get the property that and it is kind of nice region so my backpack and not have like a monstrosity entanglement that I had to take me like four hours to untangle these ones like I even have like a little charger like in my backpack and so if I need to charge these real quick I just like plug it in there and boom, I'm ready to go but the battery life on these are actually really good. The problem is the brand that mystery birthday.
Collin 46:54
Birthday headphones perfect.
46:55
Yeah. It's just it's just really nice to like, especially like if we go for a walk or something or go workout I'll be like, Oh, you know, there's so people here I just don't listen to or poppies and get a galbi I think it is kind of a nice relief to you know, reach into my backpack and not have that intake granted there's no perfect ways to roll headphones. I just didn't ever good at it. Well, yeah, I do miss my my other headphones. But before that I didn't really like do anything like gaming, maybe I never really did like online gaming that I required headphones. Or, you know, it was mostly just like music or videos, but I lived by myself for the longest time. I didn't have like worried about why whatever I want to do. Yeah. Yeah,
Collin 47:50
I use courtesy a lot of times like I listen to this, and nobody else does. So. Yeah, or the opposite of like, Oh my gosh, it's for you know, when Shana was living with us. It's like,
48:06
yeah,
Collin 48:06
it's so loud in here. My headphones, you know, I mean, ads for the other way. Like, no, I need to hide with my headphones. So that's why let the mild like these have like the mild like noise cancelling a little bit there. The foam is big, and they've been a tight fit. That's why I like the on around ear. I mean, headphones a lot. Yeah, I don't like I have a very bad history with that earbud in ear situation. I find them the majority of the ones I have tried. very uncomfortable. For whatever reason, my ears are just like, Ah, no. And then
48:52
you know,
Collin 48:52
I it's hard for me to find one that I like and that is comfortable. And I did have a pair. They were okay, they were the cheap one. But they were like the more round and foamy ones and they have been stolen by my wife. So yes. Oh yeah. I use the air pods. Whenever. Literally everything else when I'm doing anything away from the desk when I'm here. I pop these on and I don't think they're comfortable. I don't know they don't fit. Especially those were the other ones that have like like like the air pods of that shape like that. That's
49:38
like falling out. Yeah. I don't know. But
Collin 49:45
am I just much more comfortable with either on ear or around ear headphones. on here, just the smaller ones just like on here. Those are okay. I do like these better. But problem is a lot of them would get like enormous and you look like super goofy anyway. Yeah. Especially especially around here, then all of a sudden, yeah, yeah. ballooning into like, I am Oh,
50:06
robot. Yeah, I
Collin 50:07
don't really want I don't want these to be like, your muffs right? I don't want a Christmas story, right? Is that what I want? No. Right? Yes, the hunt continues but you know?
50:30
Yeah, well, I am so
Collin 50:35
sorry. I'm out of time. So to bring it back to the top of the show there a little bit. I have a question now. Okay. I want to know about your thoughts and experiences with the asthma app, or do you even remember, the asthma AP test from high school?
51:05
Is that the military one?
Collin 51:07
Yes. So International, international friends of the show. The adverb stands for the armed services, Vocational Aptitude Battery. I did not know that until I googled it just now. But there you go.
51:25
Basically,
51:27
it's like this big giant multiple choice test. And it's supposed to help
51:32
identify jobs, you
Collin 51:35
would be good at in the military. Right. So you take it in high school, when I don't matter if you're a sophomore, or a junior, I think Junior, I can't quite recall which one it is. It's one of those two things. But it's supposed to be like an identifying test for like, if you I mean, they frame it as when you join the military, right? If you choose to go into military service, it's supposed to like find careers in the armed forces that are
52:08
suitable for you. Right? Yeah. Um, so yeah,
Collin 52:14
that is, I was just wondering about your take on that and what you thought about also, knowing that I was unaware
52:27
that,
Collin 52:28
at least in Missouri, they take into account your scores on that test for certain,
52:37
like, things, like,
Collin 52:40
funding Exactly. But I know they look at as AP scores is like, determiners of certain things. And I was like, wait, I was under the impression that this was not a real test.
52:51
Yeah. I don't
52:52
know if it changed over time.
52:55
Well, but like,
Collin 52:56
as far as I knew, again, when I was in high school, I was rather oblivious about these things, obviously, because I didn't care. Like, as far as I was concerned, this was just what the random army recruiter was trying to make me do.
53:09
Yeah. Right.
53:10
So I wasn't aware that it has in Missouri, at least it does have an official
53:16
like place in
Collin 53:20
when they look at school test scores. So that was alarming to learn for me, anyway. I, yeah. So my memory of this was I thought it was totally ridiculous. And so I did not try it all. And I cannot tell you what I scored or what it told me I would or wouldn't be good. I remember the radio thinks that was hilarious. Oh, yeah. That's pretty cool. I can't, I genuinely think I remember taking the exam. And the entire time being, I think, resentful that I was being forced to take this exam, and just kind of angry about it. And so I didn't try it all. And I just kind of blew it off. In was probably went and go practice my clarinet, if anything. Sure. Well, I had a similar experience in that like, at least when I was in high school and doing this, this was like, you know, kind of the joke was like, well, you don't want to do good, because then the army recruiters will just call your house. Right? That was the joke. I don't you know, and so I kind of felt the same way because I'm not disparaging anyone who chooses military service. This is an admirable career pursuit. And, you know, it's very important and good for you. That is not a career for me. And I knew it a long time ago. Right. There was nothing that I just knew, right? Anybody that knows me Really the end listeners could probably figure out Yeah, that's true.
55:04
70 hours deep into this. They know, they know. Yeah,
Collin 55:07
they know. It's fine. Everybody in high school, they knew they didn't know. Yeah, it's definitely not for you. It's just not. It's just not for me, it is for other people. And as that's, that's fine, that's good. Right. But it's not for me. And so I was kind of like, Yeah, I don't whatever, like. And so I was rather alarmed to learn that at some point, it had been made, like part of an official metric of some sort, because I was like, wait a minute.
55:34
That's not. Right.
Collin 55:36
That's like a real test. Right? Like, it'll be I was saying way I remember I had this distinct memory of going to the auditorium and just sort of being in there. Right. And taking this really long, overly long test, multiple choice test about things that three hours, three hours, three hours. Yeah, I probably was a long time, which means I probably finished in like, an hour and 20 minutes. It was like, all right, because you couldn't leave until everyone. Yeah, so the sit there, because they hit a lot of d3 hours. So there was no place else for you to go is actually there.
56:20
In the gym.
56:22
And the auditorium. listeners, this was pre cell phone, so literally couldn't do anything. Right.
Collin 56:34
Aaron, what about you? Do you have memories of this exam?
56:37
Well, so this was in the new high school. I sat in the back in the front row,
Collin 56:47
while very vivid.
56:49
It was I think I sat next to Josh Oh, and
56:57
Tuesday night.
56:59
I sat there. And I was like, do the military personnel that wasn't there? And I was like, hey, how important is this? Like, what what's important if you're going to be in the military, I was like, all I need to know. And so I circled fi on every single question, because I did not. I was like, though, you were taking me out of one of my favorite classes. And you are wanting you're forcing me to do this. Because you want me to see what I would do good in the military. Yeah. And once again, okay, so when I was younger, I wanted I wanted to be in the military, I wanted to be a marine sniper. And then I had no required, oodles and oodles of math sounds like, I'm out. So like, in this, I have a friend that wants to the military, and you know, I thank them. And but I was like, I just I just, you know, I was a senior in high school, I just didn't care. I was mentally checked out. It was like, nine o'clock in the morning. I had like, not slept the night before. I think we had some sort of like, you know, something over the weekend, or like a football game, or something, I don't know. But I was just like, the way it is as needed. Like, I remember the guy he looked at, and he's like, it's important for joining the military. I was like, Alright, see, see, see, see. And then I just sat there. And this was in the time of cellphones, and I just play on my phone the whole time. And I could just be on the scene from the military gentleman's question as I just sat there and was like, I don't care to do on Facebook. So like, I can sense that he, you know, he was just a kid or wherever, wherever. But like, Yeah, I just, I just didn't care. I extended because I was told like, yeah, this is important for the military. But I'm like, I'm, like, I'm already signed up for college. Like what? Like, what, what do you what are you wanting for me? And because like, my favorite thing was, when I was at Oklahoma State, I would still get those phone calls. While I was on campus, like, Hey, you know, are you still interested in college and I won, and then college right now, so it could be and then they'd hang up on me. But I was just like, I just don't let me let me doodle. Let me find my phone. Let me go back to class. Like and that's all I want right now. Yo,
59:38
do you think that's bad? I got a text from an army recruiter six months ago.
59:46
Hey, right.
Collin 59:49
Here's all like, Yo, I don't know what list he bought my number off. But that's pretty mad. That's like, like, we can help you find your career and it's like, I have a career at
1:00:07
35 years old. What the scene? Well, yeah, I have no idea.
Collin 1:00:14
I have no I have I, I just deleted it because I was like, I'm not respond to this because I'm getting in trouble because I was aghast.
1:00:26
I couldn't believe that what? Why? How?
Collin 1:00:31
How did my vote debate about this list? What is going on? Yeah, that is weird. I was. I wonder, you know, you say like, it's being used for stuff these days. And I wonder if that's just because, you know, like the will they're already taking it? Well, I have a feeling is how can we write I feel like well, they're already all take, like all the juniors or whatever, are already taking this. So we might as well look at it and see what it's telling us. Right? I don't know if it's like a big part of funding determinations, because I think they use other tests we have like, they use EEOC tests for that. You know, the end, of course exams for in high school you do like biology. There's a english one. There's a math one. There is a history one, but in the state of Missouri, it's clearly optional. For now, they changed their mind a lot. A few years ago, it was mandatory, and it was optional. They might be thinking about making it mandatory again, refusing. They don't know what to do with it. So there's like all these, that's what they look at, for like high school, like Career and College Readiness, like have you been, you know, have you passed these because those are like the however many courses in whatever subject you have to take, they give you one like the top one. So like at the end of your second year of like algebra, whatever they give you take that because you Okay, well, that's I have to have three maths. So boom, there it is. So you can take those, and they look at those. But yeah, I heard a few years ago. They're like, Oh, yeah, look at the FS was like what why? I'm looking at doing some research on here, because I was curious. Does every high school do the Azov app? And the answer is no. only about half of the nation's High School administer as you're saying, yes. Or if it's by state? or Why? Because Missouri does. Right. And I can't find any other information other than one thing that says about 12,000 high schoolers do it high schools do it? And then there are 24,000 public high schools, as I say that it's not a large number. About half not a lot at all, I don't know, I don't know if they, if they divvy it by state or if they divvy it up by, you know, a certain number per state. Or if, unfortunately, how recruiting practices tend to be done in the United States. I have a theory about what schools get the asthma and which ones dat? Because I Yeah, I bet there are a few schools that you don't have to take it. Uh huh. Based on your demographics. Yep. Right. And your social extended except those your economic status, you might get to skip the as if you go to the high school. That's a good point. Because those kids are not generally going to the army. Nope, they're not looking at to the army as a way of progressing in careers or look at it. To do something else are different.
1:03:53
Yeah. So
Collin 1:03:57
yeah, that's weird. makes you uncomfortable? A little bit. I'm not gonna say any more about that, because I have strong feelings about that. And again, I don't want to disparage anybody who does choose that. Because it is an admirable choice. It is a very important career choice. And for some people, that's where they belong. Right? Also, knowing that we do have an international audience. Hello again, in in the United States, military service is voluntary. And that is not the case in every country in the world, in many countries that is compulsory. So I understand if you live in one of those countries, you're listening to us going
1:04:39
by you're saying that just right now. A little confusing, but it's fair. So you got
Collin 1:04:45
there. That's all that matters. Yeah, got it. So I understand that that would be kind of a weird thing to say. But like that's just my, our kind of take on that and why and like the fact is just like shoved down your throat when you are 18 again, that's a whole nother type of conversation like you're expected to make all these, like really important decisions when you are not in a frame of mind to be making an important decision. Oh, my gosh, yeah. Yeah, there's a lot that goes into that for sure. That's true. And that does go back to what we talked about last week, a little bit. Like, that's the that's one thing, where, you know, last week we talked about, like, it's okay to change your mind. On the army. It's not great. That's illegal. So be careful, right? Because there is no, there is no joining the army and then being like, you know what, I don't want to be in the army anymore. That's not a choice you get to me. Yeah, you can't do that. Until whatever amount of time on the paper that you signed elapses, and then you can no longer be in the army anymore. But that you, you have to wait for that time limit. Yeah. And again, culturally, if you have that, that the systems where it's, it is compulsory, this whole discussion doesn't make any sense, right of the show of who takes it, or what, or you just do it and you're done. Or, you know, there's there's a lot that
1:06:21
that gets caught. But
Collin 1:06:22
I would be interested to hear from somebody who's it, you know, that's the situation where it's like, well, you know, I'm 1819, I'm not required to serve two years, three years, whatever it is in the military, and then I'm done. For five years, I don't know, I think it depends on where you are, like, here's my X number of years, and then I get to go do something else now. Like,
1:06:44
that's also a weird
Collin 1:06:47
thing to think about, right? Because you have to delay things. But then you've been in a system where, like,
1:06:54
you
Collin 1:06:57
are not really given choices to make, right? And then all of a sudden, you're out. And you're like, now make all the choices. Right? Imagine that's very jarring as well. Right? Because it's it's two very different systems to be a part of right one where you have no agency, and then one where you have 100% agency. Um, so that's a very jarring transition. And I can imagine that would be really difficult, like, well, let's say it's two years, we'll take we'll say, two years example. It might be longer. Well, let me know if it is like, you're like, Alright, for two years, you're in army. So you're 18 you got two years, everyone's telling you exactly what to do, what time day to do it, how to do it, everything. And then it's like, Alright, now you're 20 Okay, bye. But it's not what I wanted. Yeah, hold on,
1:07:56
hold on. You know,
Collin 1:08:00
some people are gonna go, um, I'll just sign up again, because I don't know what to do.
1:08:06
Right. Like, I've gotten used to it. For sure. So
Collin 1:08:13
it'll be interesting, as it is a different mindset. Whereas if it's voluntary, you know, you've you've gone in, hopefully informed and said, Yes, this is exactly what I want. I have made an informed choice. Again, I say, hopefully, because not all recruiting practices are created equally. I know that there are honest, good army recruiters out there. I know that there are also the opposite of that. So just leave it there. But hopefully, you have been able to make an informed choice
1:08:50
and and do that so yeah.
Collin 1:08:58
Well as rabbenu military service, and you let us know, right in it don't know very much. We're confused about the as fab that's what we know. Apparently not at the as Babbitt 123 America town USA. It's true. And and again, I would like to close this conversation close. Knowing that I do have a much respect for people who choose military service, that is not something I could ever do. Right? It's not just it isn't that could not handle that. So I do have much respect for you. So don't think that I was trying to like
1:09:43
you know, belittle
Collin 1:09:45
that in any way because I am absolutely not. I just am sometimes confused by some of the things like the ASTM test. And I did know again from an early age that that was not for me, because I just it just isn't It definitely is for some people. So I just want to make sure I say that one more time so that you don't get angry people. doubly and triply. double down on that for sure. That app and more is it? Yeah, it is. It is a, from a very early age. New is a big sacrifice. But no, exactly. I definitely not not something that I saw myself going into, or that would work for me.
1:10:32
But that's just
Collin 1:10:34
why we all have life choices in depth. And I do have a lot of respect for people that do make that choice, because that is a huge sacrifice, right? You've got to be like, Alright, I am gonna go away from everybody I know. And do something really hyper dangerous and scary. Goodbye, like, What? You know, oh, yeah, that does take a very, that's a very bold step. So that's one of the things so I definitely applaud Dan, who did take that choice. So
1:11:13
that's a that's a rough one. So I think it's, it's good. Good on you for doing that. Thank you.
1:11:20
Thank you very much.
Collin 1:11:22
And on that, we'll wrap up.
1:11:27
Alright, sounds good.
1:11:28
I like it. Okay. Love you guys. Love you.