We reminisce about the first taste of independence from a bike and our illegal forts. All of this before the latest breaking research on the continuum of chicken portion sizes. That's right! Aaron give us our update on the Killers of the Flower Moon movie and then we wrap up with the Deep Time Project. NO THANKS.

Bike riding
First independence- the bike
Illegal tree houses
Collin almost died in a pothole
Forest forts!
Wilderness outposts!!
And we didn’t get bit
We HATE the heat
Continuum of chicken portion size
Peer reviewed Chicken typology
Aaron almost died from heat
And is waiting for schools to call him back!
Partying it up Oklahoma style…
He’s also almost dead from running and getting active
‘Killers of the Flower Moon’ shooting on location!
It’s pretty cool
The book about the Osage murders
Don’t read the released FBI files though…
Volunteer for…. Deep Time Project
NO THANK YOU!! We know how this ends.

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Collin, Aaron

Collin 00:04

Welcome to Oh, brother, podcast, three brothers, trying to figure it all out with your hosts, Brandon, Collin and Aaron. On this week's show, peer reviewed chicken topology. Hello. My settings are where they're supposed to be. Why do you keep breaking stuff? Ask my children. Speaking of breaking stuff, I did get to upgrade a piece of my recording equipment recently. Because you broke

00:54

my as somebody may have broken the boom arm that I Oh, hi.

Collin 01:06

Oh, no, like back and forth. It was aggressively pulled in a downward manner or floor. Breaking it off the bracket. And the little insert goes up? Oh, dear. Yes. Oh, no. This is very bad. You know? how things work? Push the limit. Work. Right. But you don't know how it's gonna work until you understand how it does. I mean, that is pretty. Treat medicine. That's how they teach medicine, right? Not medicine is not actually. Okay, so here's a spoiler for you and all of you listening. Dr. Gregory house is a fictional character. And real medicine doesn't work that way. That's what they just want you to believe. And they're really just eating out? Yes, it's not always gamma ray, and you don't just like order 75 billion tests to figure out what it isn't. So that's not it'll have my doubts. I don't know. Yeah, we are. What have we been doing? We went on a bike ride on the Katy Trail recently. And I was I am eating, we're working on Lillian with two big skills of hers. The is getting very good on the bike. And so we had to teach the downhill cornering. And I will look into that story. So I had to teach how to stop and put your foot down, right. Hold the bike. Kind of a big? Oh, yes. Not fall on your head. Yeah, well, what she did was she would just kind of get to a rolling stop, go slow enough. And then he just bail. Right? And she's pretty good at it. Not gonna lie. I'm just like, not really sustained. And so we're teaching that to the bike mostly. Yeah. So we were teaching that and then we also had to learn how to start on your own. Right How to push yourself off, get your foot on the bike and pedal without without anybody help. Both of those she mastered in like, and because, yep, though, anyway, went to the K trail. And we were like, Okay, here we go. We're going to go and we're going to get on. And there's a small downward. really narrow part that goes from the parking gravel parking lot onto the gravel trail. And I was like, Lilian, look, this is your gravel. We've never biked on this before. When you fall, it's going to be okay. gonna hurt, blah. And we need to stay away from the big rocks. Because there are big rocks in here. It's not evenly graded gravel, right? They were just kind of like Yeah, got enough for some here put down, though some of these things are like chert almost like they're, they're not good trail material. But anyway, we go through from the car and discos blazing down the hill. Hard turn to the right and takes off like a rocket down the trail. They're like, Oh,

Aaron 04:48

whoops. We

Collin 04:52

had to go catch up with her, which was fun. And she did default one time but that was because she was going she's getting to this really that habit of biking with one hand, because you know, she's kids do it. And she was biking with one hand and turned her head completely around to see all of us either Oh, or no. And I'm like, screaming at her and she turns around and the park part of the trail that we're on right now is elevated, right? Because this is an old the Katy Trail is an old railroad. And so they had elevated to feel like that and she was going straight towards off of the elevated thing. She quickly, you know, she overcorrected. And obviously slid out and crashed and burned on the on the gravel. So at the reiterate, you know, we need to keep our both hands on the handlebars for just a little bit longer. And not. Oh, yeah. But she rode her bike the other day. Seriously. I was at work Megan's home with kids. And Megan said Lillian rode her bike for three hours. Almost non stop. Holy cow. Yeah, I know. What? That's crazy. I mean, we age based on the age before, you know, and here we go. Acting. But it's, it's brought up a lot, a lot of memories of us riding bikes, first on the gravel driveway, and then on paved driveway. And then using those the kind of get around. And first little taste of freedom and independence. Yeah, that's very true. I was very, you know, it's weird. Like, well, those things work. Now. I realized, like, dude, I totally could have just ridden my bike to like, Texaco was totally within the realm of possibility. Why did I not do that? Like, I don't know. Cuz you were a good child? Well, I think at the time, it's like, oh, my gosh, it's so far. Right. But now I'm Where? That is. That is not far at all. Yeah. So yeah, you right there was that like, Oh, I can just go out around. There wasn't really any place to go. No, way out there in the farm road land, but you just go around, I guess. Like we'd build a sweet tree house on the neighbor's property without asking them at the thing to happen that obviously. It's very safe. totally safe to do that. Everything's fine. No. He was fine. I mean, nobody really got mad about it. So wait. So we, we built a tree house, just like at the side of the road and some random tree? Yep. And Zoey was like, Hey, we could do this. So we took like, random scraps of wood from the barn. And other like my friend's barn. And we just sort of like, made a tree house. Cuz your side of the road? You know, it wasn't like, good. It was some boards nailed to a tree as you do. It was when you're

08:53

when you're like, oh, man, what a bit we wish I would have been like, you're young. I was younger.

Collin 09:00

What era doesn't remember it? third, fourth grade, something like that. So

Aaron 09:05

910 maybe tops probably when we do that. So yeah,

Collin 09:15

I was the thing that happened. We just it was really badly constructed. It was mostly some, you know, there's like, like a ladder kind of thing where you just like, nail the board to the tree. So that you can Yeah, like it's perpendicular to the trees. You just sort of climb up.

Aaron 09:34

We did that. And then up in the tree somewhere.

Collin 09:40

There was a couple of branches and we just sort of nailed some boards across them. So that you can sit in it. Basically you just made like, a couple of places to sit. And we called it a tree. It wasn't really a cohesive unit. Yeah, it was like a couple platform's up in some high branches that you could sit on. That was it that you could put snacks up there. Like you could like set them down. Relatively without them falling off. And that's Yeah, we did that. And then because Collin is terrified of heights, we built a lean to thing at the bottom. Could habitate in because he was not climbing that tree. When he was like, No, he would have been like, five or six maybe so he's not coming up there. I'd say that right now. I don't know if that tree was that tree, which is gone. By the way listeners it was cut down by I think the power company because it was precariously close to the power pole. The power line, it was very dead if I remember, eventually. The whole Well, I mean, after we were using it when we were in it, it was green. That's thing, but like there's one thing that electric companies, if there's a tree like 100 yards from the wire, they're like, cut it down. Let's do it. Get out of here. Good. Yeah, we did that. Yeah, it was bad. It was badly done was stolen nails and little bits of wood. We just like hanging out in there. Kind of like the whole bike thing. Right? It was a it was a period of a wave for independent. Right and doing your own thing. Yeah. So it was kind of cool. Looking back now is that old man? ish? Is that a good plan? Maybe not. But you know, it's definitely very good. We did that. We like drew it all on the board. We like decorated the graffiti all the wood, all the boards. I remember that was like weird pen and pencils. And Collin died in a pothole. That's what also I remember about the tree.

12:15

Coming home on the bike. Now you were coming to the tree house. I think I was coming to it because I was already up in the tree. Okay, I'm pretty sure when this happened. So,

Collin 12:31

listeners, if you're not familiar with shipping sealed roads, basically, what happens is they just sort of dump some tar on the road and then fling some gravel about anger. Yeah, that's a road surface. Am I right? Is that accurate? Collins I'm fairly well, so yeah, they take they take little bits. Yeah, yeah, tar and then little bits of asphalt and chunks or whatever the chip is, and then they throw it down in there. Like the cars, we don't need to have a roller out here. We don't need to do anything fancy or have this Premier, the cars driving on this will smooth and create a perf, which is a lie. That will last is definitely a lie years in here.

Aaron 13:19

It will last for a month, possibly weeks. And

Collin 13:24

so as you can imagine, it's not Yeah, it's not a strong service, not a compact. It's not like asphalt, where it's like blended and mixed together. It's definitely either. Yeah, it's just they apply those two things separately. Now on those roads, that chip and seal was there. I think they might have put the tar on the top sometimes, but anyway, they like so did that badly. And so in Missouri, as you have probably gathered listeners, the temperatures fluctuate wildly with spacers. So what happens is there's since it's not really compacted together very well. Moisture gets in there relatively easily. Any expanding and contracting of moisture just destroys this stuff. So you can get potholes easily the size of like, tables, right? Right. Especially on a random farm row that nobody drives on really ends up. It gets a massive potholes now. The fun thing about this is you can pop some like mega wheelies on your bike tour if you're paying attention. However, if you're not paying attention, you're basically driving into a crater.

Aaron 14:40

That's what he was like.

Collin 14:43

Because I was in the tree house. And our neighbor was there. And we were up in the tree and columns like Yeah, come in. And then all of a sudden we just hear like screaming and he's laying on the ground, his knees just like bleeding everywhere. Like

Aaron 14:58

oh no Now what?

Collin 15:04

Oh, no. How do we get home now? neighbor neighbors came out and told me back down, I believe Yes, I believe neighbors did come out

Aaron 15:13

to the rescue. Yep. Where was this? Exactly where was the corner of the road?

Collin 15:20

So if you come out of debt, it was a write up from the driveway. Like if you leave the dad's driveway in, you know, there you go like towards town. Right that first right that? Well, yeah, the first left hand turn the rotates. It was just right there. Yeah, if you come out dad's drive, turn right. And then the road goes back left. Right on that corner. was a tree with the oak tree? Yeah,

Aaron 15:43

I think so by the fence. Yep. Gotcha. So this was this was pre Aaron era.

15:51

So you were around you were just hanging out? pretty old.

Collin 15:55

Yeah, you would have been very, very small like to.

Aaron 16:02

Not on the bike. Yeah. Like I was only when he said, for it, I was thinking about the color for it's more like a hobbit hole. down a little little ravine. That's where my mind went to was down there. So I was like, oh,

Collin 16:20

that also that can be part two of this discussion was great. But since you brought it up, and like you describe what you remember about,

Aaron 16:37

though I don't really, I don't really remember much I just did in the bottom of one of the routines. I don't know if you call it that giant goalie. We have. It's fair, weird. Like, there was a board and there's like a higher and there was like, they look like more like lean to than anything in my memory. And that's just kind of where like, we hung out. And like, played wasn't like, anything like, like, it was cool. Because you know, my my mind of like, God, force and all these cool stuff. But I it didn't really feel like a great place because rainwater and you know, there's all kind of cultivated right there. So

Collin 17:25

Oh, that was that's what, that's what the tire in the wood was for. So if you remember all the holes, it was right at the top of that. Yeah, it was right at the top of the ravine kinda where right where it began. So the there was we put the tires. I don't know where we got these tires. Also, that's a that's a sort of a mystery. I was like, Oh, there it is. tires. Where do we get tires? Why did we have those.

Aaron 17:55

But we put them down there.

Collin 17:56

And we kind of put those on the bottom to make the bottom flat between the steep sides of the ravine. And then we laid the boards, which I think were pieces. I think dad was replacing the boards on the trailer. Yeah. And I think we took there, there are big ethical things. And we drug some of those down there. We like cut them and drag them down there. And we lay them across so they elevated it up off the ground a little bit. So what you write when it did rain, the water just went under. Which again, when you're a child, this is a brilliant idea. Now, in my mid 30s, the only thing I care about is like how did we not find like all the snakes like what on earth? What were we? Oh, that's what my brain thinks right now. Yeah, and then we got some kind of tarp or something. It wasn't like in some way army tarp Canvas thing. I think it was maybe the thing was like brown, brown, brownish tan. We made like a little pop up tent type shelter thing with it like a little a frame situation.

Aaron 19:11

Yeah. All right.

Collin 19:13

Yeah. So you can't go down into it. I also remember as part of that, further down in that same ravine with there was that really thick patch of briars and brambles, and cutting gas through that, with the shear did cut tunnels through the briars, which isn't gonna question that decision. Now, there was two so that we we, in our minds as children, these were

Aaron 19:39

outposts for the fortress. So last year, right? Yeah.

Collin 19:43

There was one. Yeah. So there was one further down the ravine. So if you're looking down the ravine, it would have been on the right hand side, but also up on the left like up the hill. We built a small little like, I'm going to describe it as a ring for Yeah, which by a little tree that was like, I think we called it the Watchtower, right? It's just like a little. Like we like lean some stay in a little like fence configuration, like made a little stick fence around a tree. And we're like, oh, yeah, there's the right. And I think we took a piece of the canvas and just sort of made like one little side. So it was like a little bit sheltered. We just sort of like, hide it to the tree, and then tied it to a stick. So it was like a little mini flap. I seem to remember that was up there, or a piece of plastic that we got from somewhere or something. We did that up on there. Because it was a little there was a little shelter thing up there, too. And that was the fortress of

Aaron 20:50

the woods.

Collin 20:50

I don't really know, we didn't have a name for it. It was just that now if I mean, we built these things that you know, gotta give us some credit. But yeah. Yeah, I was wondering about the way but yeah, again, as an adult, my mind only thinks about like, there had to be like, hundreds of snakes. Like

21:15

constantly on the verge of like mega death all the time. Yeah, just like,

Collin 21:27

yeah. Things you don't think about when you're 10? like snakes? What's that?

Aaron 21:33

Ah, those aren't real. No. Yes.

Collin 21:37

And for those listeners not aware, yes, there are venomous snakes in Missouri, just sort of hanging out, you know, around. So they're quite a lot of them around. That's how sometimes, so like, it's a wonder like, we did it bit by

Aaron 22:01

thing. A lot. That's true.

Collin 22:06

Maybe they kept them in, or

Aaron 22:10

maybe

Collin 22:12

they were the guard dogs. He was written out of there.

Aaron 22:16

Thank you for being here.

Collin 22:20

It is kind of weird, though. If you think about like, so we were doing that. We were like playing in the woods, constantly, like in rock piles and around the fallen logs and all these places where snakes dwell. My wife when she was young, she got bit by a Copperhead in the leg. And she was just like, walking on a road. Very odd. The places these things are and where they are not what they are not or where you encounter them. Right? Because she was just like walking on the road. And it was just like, Blam. You got her in the ankle. Wow. Which she describes as a not a pleasant experience. She just say, yeah, it's kind of weird. We think about it in that perspective. Like, we were like digging around in the forest. Like rooting through probably close to snake dens as he was just like, strolling down the road to her grandma's house. And you know, merrily, they go, yeah, minding her own business. And there was this sneaking they do. Yeah, other than the, your obike that's, that's, that's the most experiment that we have going on. It's odd, but I don't appreciate so hot though. We went from 42 degrees. It's the first June to now it's gonna be 100 by this weekend. Happy Oh man, Friday is gonna be awful. Like I'm not even and listeners it's the Friday's gonna be Today's a night. Right so it like two weeks 40 degrees. Heat index of like 100 almost like

Aaron 24:25

No. Why? Yep. That one.

Collin 24:32

The first couple days of summer school I had to take my sweater like my ice ice sweater. Not like my jacket like to bust out my sweater but my fleece sweater. They say it's too cold. I

Aaron 24:45

can't.

Collin 24:49

Yeah, it was great for a while. It's like 40 degrees and rainy. And then now it's like 1000 degrees, and humid. Yay. Favorite part of every single It's not like we go our morning recess for summer school is at like 930. And we go outside and the grass is wet. Still from all the Yeah, the moisture, the humidity, the dew is it was like now. So, yeah, it's exciting. Alright, have indoor recess in the gym on Friday? I think that might be the plan. I think that would be good. If I do that, I'm going to talk to the person I have recessed with the other teacher be like, Hey, he's idea. Yeah. If we didn't go outside, we just wrote a blog wrote about heat exhaustion and stress and dog. Yeah. Or teachers or teachers, right. No. We side note, related to absolutely nothing but a funny thing that happened to me today. In class we, we talked about the size classification of chicken at lunch on Well, we, we were talking, I was looking at the menu, and today the menu said chicken

26:36

chunks. And I did not know what that meant. Right? And so

Collin 26:48

that was our big hypothesis of the day. It was like a slow day summer school everybody. Okay, I'm sorry, could couldn't be could try to figure out what we're trying to figure out where they went in the continuum of, of so we have decided at the end of it in school today, we came up with the official terminology. So at least at our school, the sizing categories go thusly smallest to largest. It goes. Popcorn, chunk, nugget. Strip. Boom, there you go. So if you're so it's like the size of the chicken that you're going to get.

27:32

For lunch. To come up with the waiters. Yeah, the continuum of chicken portion size.

Collin 27:42

Yeah, portion sizes. Yeah. It's like popcorn, chicken, chicken chunk, chicken nugget. Chicken strip. That is the i that is the I haven't really either. But that is the chicken type ology that we have mapped out today in our summer school. That's the new one for me. Like it? I mean, if you're curious, ever, that's official. Now that's binding we just published officially. So there's my official published. peer to peer review. Aaron, do you agree?

Aaron 28:19

I concur.

Collin 28:20

Okay, me too. Look, there you go. Peer Reviewed title beautiful. It's official. We have got it is one of those days of school where we realize like we've started several different projects and each like subject. Yeah, so like, it was kind of sloped. It was like, all right, put away that one. We'll go a break. We'll do recess. We'll do. I'll come back and we're gonna work on our other different project now. And they're like, okay, let's just get right to it. I wasn't really doing a lot today. But a supervising lot of wandering around. conferencing. I mean, like, yep, that's good.

29:03

Do anyway, very important. Very important. That conferencing to provide Yes. Yes, indeed. So about it. We haven't really done anything tidy.

29:19

China. How much longer have I get just started, didn't it? Ah,

Collin 29:25

yes, like so especially it's half over I guess we have all next week. And then the week after that, like half the week. We're almost there. Boom. Already. Look at that. It's literally flying by literally flying by except for probably tomorrow and it's like 1000 degrees. So not what I want. Not what I wanted in my life. 100 degrees already. June around June. You're supposed to be nicer to me than that. But August Sure. Oh, I know. I know.

Aaron 30:04

Blair. Anyway, Aaron, what are you doing? Yeah. Well, work has been relatively steady this week. You're talking about what you're saying about the heat I went in, and I want to like nine in the morning to talk to a family. And there's my seven kids. And when I left, it's like, when I go through, like, Oh, this is you know, Belton, the nice weather, you know. And then I got like, I went in at nine and got out of like, one, and I was wearing jeans, and I was just immediately so it's like, everything's sticky. I was we were there do on my car. So that was fun. This morning. kind of been a bit of a panic. as Sam said, Call him because I was sitting here I was kind of by then. Oh, you know, I'm gonna have a relatively easy morning. This that the other than someone texting and like eight and like, Hey, you come up here to my wife. What we have? We have caught it in like, or way, right? The ace that you work on or like Yeah, yeah, I'm a I'm a lawyer in house I used to, like, Get everything ready and like, throw a thing on. For all my stuff in I was like looking at those walls driving. And got there, like, improved from where I live up there. It is about dead at an hour. But I got behind every buddy going up is currently looking all the way up there. So I went there, like 20 minutes to spare. got there? I was like, Yes, he was here the whole time. That I stayed up there for as we were they got a lot accomplished and long typing. I gotta go back tomorrow because we have a 930 meeting. which people are always like, Oh, no, let's go to meetings. And also we'll be happy together. Want to do my own typing stuff and just be left to my own devices? Like that? Oh, we gotta be social and theme. So you're back up there tomorrow. We more time to do more documenting after meeting and then how does that Thursday? I think Yeah. What is today, Wednesday. So I'll do that and then hopefully have a chill Friday. All my Fridays recently have been greatly. Domi is getting ready to go to New York. So she will be she'll be gone her clothes to post them on. Whoa. He got up there for hanging out with one of her friends and another wedding up there. So that is where she will be here working. Yeah, so I'm still waiting on the news. No one has told me so that has been excruciating Lee anxiety ridden. Never heard of that. This is so that is what Aaron has been pretty much been dealing with the entirety of this week of going out talking with people getting lost in salsa driving around more than just kind of, you know, going about my day as best I can. And as the slightest thing that I think that my my phone buzzes like people are calling me as I was like coming from work. I can't you see that. I'm busy.

Collin 34:05

I didn't want to talk to you.

Aaron 34:05

Come on. So it's Yeah, it's a bit. A bit of that inducing. Bye. don't hear anything from the war row. People. Did you forgive me? Oh, yeah, that's what that is what I have been dealing with. had one of Shelby's friends come up from eBay. Last week or a little bit of last week. Got to party it up Oklahoma style. And then he was here for a few days, drove her to the airport and like six o'clock in the morning. But the people who travel constantly don't know how you do it. So yeah, that's the way that's been like for me to

Collin 35:06

have very worrying connotations when you say things like, partying it up Oklahoma style.

Aaron 35:13

Well, like,

Collin 35:15

I have images of like catfish noodling. And like, I'll show and

Aaron 35:24

have a job it's not easy.

Collin 35:28

Excuse me, pardon my ignorance.

Aaron 35:34

He came up here and told me her grab hold and dolphins in Tulsa, and we were going to go up to prohaska where they're actually shooting the scenes for killers. Oh, far moon. Yeah, it started there has been Leo signings up there. They've completely redone downtown. The place Alaska There we go. Nailed it. And made it work. Very early 1900s you know that transitioning from the completely downtown. It's fascinating. We were gonna go up there do that. But like I probably people as a Saturday Bahasa, which, weirdly enough, is packed with people, people travel from all over the place just to go to the Pioneer Woman up there. And so anyways,

Collin 36:41

it's one of those phenomenon to have, like, it's the biggest area in a fairly large radius. So everybody from like, all the little tiny towns I have, like, a

Aaron 36:53

couple 100 people, they go there. Right. That's how it is. But it's also I mean, like, I mean, there's no like real places like shopping.

Collin 37:04

Yeah, exactly. So that's like the center of

Aaron 37:07

back. I think. Yeah. But it's kind of like you know, for us, you know, when people talk about like, Oh, I you know, I go to Branson, the highlight but we're like well that was like in our backyard. So it's different concept for us. It's kind of the same thing like that for that area of going to know that bias is a hub for people especially now people want to better try to see you know, the movie sets and everything so it's definitely definitely be patient if a patient on Facebook I know it's vastly different with possibly video What do you think of like all the employees and staff down I've also been running every day for about 30 minutes 30 ish minute walking slash running for up to 30 minutes every single day. When I first started like this I'm going to kill it in in like 10 minutes then my god Oh, that's right. I haven't ran it a long time. So that was that was an experience I forgot about since I have been what people call athletic for a long time I forgot how to stretch and how to do things like that. So it's been it's been a learning curve for me. But I've gotten back into the swing of being active that way. I'm currently wearing a knee brace I did not dress today and I was sitting all day I can bike and run and then like I heard a pop somewhere and I thought I was dying and was crying I don't know who was I don't know who's crying in the gym that whatever

Collin 38:58

somebody around the corner probably it's fine

39:00

yeah

Aaron 39:03

i mean that's I've been instructing You know, that's been my week was quite a lot that's very

Collin 39:15

what's very even full. I would like to say just a side note back to this movie thing for a second I don't know if I'll watch this movie at all

39:24

because like i don't know i don't really do like nonfiction movies very much. But

Collin 39:31

I would just like to say that it already has my seal of approval for shooting on the location where the story actually transpires. Yeah, this is all I've ever wanted. This is what I've been on about this on this podcast for basically ever since we started we had some video ideas of shooting on location for hog yes for free. Go back to the more corn and hotties episode. Where I ranted about this ad nauseum for the Hallmark Channel. This is very, is very, I was very excited about this, that they actually came to Oklahoma to shoot a movie that takes place. In Oklahoma, this is great. This is wonderful. Like I was already infinitely better than many other things

Aaron 40:29

I think you've talked about, I'm gonna go ahead and although the I'm a fan of it, because it's literally like, an hour from where I am. But I also really like Martin Scorsese as a director and so on, but what he what he's taking, and putting, you know that into, like a historical context, the person reading the book, I just wouldn't, you know, very interested to see like, what that transition is from, you know, being booked

Collin 41:05

a super interesting story anyway. That I sometimes whenever Martin Scorsese does things, I get a little nervous because Martin Scorsese is also a really big fan of Martin Scorsese. So like, although Generally, the hype is real, right? The hype is generally pretty, okay, but like, sometimes you like I'm, hold on, stop needing to control yourself here. So, the, because like the last big project, he did that whole, I can't remember what it's called, but I didn't hear good things about it, everyone was like, it was a little too much. So we I will be kind of cool. And again, like, because there is cultural and historical significance tied to that actual location. And they came to shoot them at that location at pretty cool. It's,

Aaron 41:59

it's also kind of a big thing that, you know, especially here in Oklahoma that a lot of historical parts don't get talked about because we know we have this coastal racer, race riot, there we go. That, you know, is completely being, you know, no one ever talks about it. It's something like, Oh, yeah, that happens. It's something you know, especially that here, you know, as a woman, you know, they're like, you know, we actually want the story being told because it happened to us. And now the world doesn't know about it. So I think that is a unique thing. I am kind of scared because I watched this Jenner islands recently with Leonardo DiCaprio. Oh, vibe into this. Like, I don't want to trip you fast knows.

Collin 42:47

Well, that was just that directory. And that was a whole different movie. Like, yeah, so notice, here's the no spoiler. So in case the case listeners are curious, and they want to be on the lookout for what isn't killers of the flower moon? Is that what's called? Yeah, so yeah, what what is the spoiler free kind of like, introduction? To what, what? Just kind of like the baseline of what happened. Okay.

Aaron 43:16

So, in summary, in conclusion, I'm

43:22

not even tell me

Aaron 43:24

how how Native Americans, especially the Osage nation, here in Oklahoma, people, people would kill tribal members for their tribal money. The Osage nation was actually at 1.1 of the richest groups in the United States because of land rights and things like that. And so the US government has a at a law where, oh, well, you know, if you were, you know, if x you know, X amount of money, if you if you were this rich, you could not be in charge of your finances, you had to have a some sort of sponsor, and a lot of the times the sponsors were white individuals. And I was a you can't handle your money, but we will handle it for you kind of ordeal. And people started to realize like, Oh, well, hey, you know, what's the, you know, easiest way besides stealing money from Native American legends kill him for the for the money. And so that's kind of that's, that's the crux of what this is about and how the FBI got involved. And it was like one of the first real like FBI things. Yeah. After that, basically, in the FBI being founded, right. And the book talks about J. Edgar Hoover, and you know, the Hoover isms of this time of how they got involved in how they're using actual like scientific studies and research to you know, try to be more modern because it talks about I know it. Before that it was, you know, 100% was gonna be like 100%, Texas Rangers, like go out there, shoot people up and ask questions later. So it was kind of the first time we're modern, as you know, early 1900s, science was implemented, you know, using disguises using fake identities, it's cracked. That was the kind of the first time that the FBI did that. And so that's where it kind of the movie picks up. for that. That's what the book picks up is that this all happened in that change from, you know, the Wild West days into the modern time? Yeah.

Collin 45:40

It's pretty neat. And again, for those listening, the reason the land of the Osage nation was so valuable in northern northern Oklahoma, is they found a hole just billions of gallons of oil. I didn't need that sucker. So that's why like, it was valuable a and then like, that started happening. And that's kind of when the oil discovery started happening in Oklahoma. And they're like, Oh, look, it's important. Haha. You don't need it anymore. Yeah.

Aaron 46:16

It's really, it's really fascinating with there's a place called woolaroc, which is, you know, it in the bin, like, there was a reservation that talks about, like, the history of What is his name? The guy that came up with Uncle Phil's? I've even been there. But he's like, yeah, so we like they, he came to Oklahoma and started conocophillips. And there's like images of like, when people would go up. And they would bid on land, right? of the tribe. And there was that guy, and but some of those pictures. And it's kind of fascinating that we get gas, you know, every single day from you know, conocophillips. And it's like, oh, hey, that guy was here. And I forget that a lot of times of bartlesville was built on oil. And especially with all these little tiny towns around here was was built on oil. And, you know, it's kind of weird to drive. Especially like, you know, from here to papa city, like you drive through this places where, you know, all these historical events happen. And it's like, oh, like, this is such a weird feeling. Because I've been to Fairfax. I've been to Bahasa like, that that concept of like, What am I supposed to what it was like, like, hundreds of years ago, where all these murders took place, then there, there was an incident where like, a house was blown up, and that actually have an impact. I've been to that house, not knowing what it was at the time. But it was weird. Margaret, does that like learning that? Oh, hey, this family was murdered at this house. And it was one of the craziest things ever happened in that small town. And like this is this is history. Right here. Oh, yeah. And it's definitely a weird, like,

Collin 48:11

for a lot of people. Right, that living in smaller and areas in the Midwest, right? You don't, you don't see your area of the world depicted in any kind of media really, ever. So even though this is a, you know, not a like, it's not a good story, but it's a good story that's being told now on a larger scale, you know? Yeah, like, it's not like, Oh, hey, guys, guess what is a fun happy time. Sorry. It's like, oh, boy, listen up. Yeah. It is. No, it's weird, though. You're right. When you see, like, places like that, I feel like, the minute I've been there, anyone that is, like, right over there. Right. This is like, this is not a common, because most, you know, movies and stuff like that take place in like relatively large urban areas that are like, you know, very far away from people in the Midwest, or in the south or other places like that, right. When you do have movies that does why this is again, so interesting. To me, this this project that they're doing is because it's like, it's just like, right, like, right over there. Like that's kind of it's cool that it's bringing a spotlight to events that probably not a lot of people know about, like you alluded to already. Before, like a lot of people don't know about that. You know, part of the history of Oklahoma specifically or just the nation in general. That's like, it's again, it's one of those things that like, nobody talks about it, because, you know, American history is very it's very complex, but a lot of times in schools, it's it's in school and in life where you learn about it gets very it's simplified so much because you Get like the overview kind of thing, where you skip out on like really weird details and stuff. So

Aaron 50:08

the cool thing. It's such a weird thing that, like, people here in Oklahoma that I've talked to, I don't want a history class in college. It wasn't exactly the best, but I learned a lot. But when we got to things of like, the Tulsa race, Riot hardest day, people like, a way it's like, I'm from top to bottom, I have never. Yes, so the

Collin 50:43

survey course, that's what I was trying to say, I got my brain, my brain like stopped working. But like, yeah, you just get that like, kind of the briefest overview, like skim the top of everything. And there's not tons of depth, which is interesting. They're trying to change that, right. Like with the new that's a whole nother conversation for later. But, like, the way they rewrite the educational standards now there's room for that. But again, if the teachers here

Aaron 51:15

Yeah.

Collin 51:18

Yeah, but you know, you know what I mean, like it, but if nobody knows about it, you can't teach about it. So this is it's I think it's good that we're, they're bringing light to this kind of thing in this this film. So yeah, for me, even if I don't like the finished product, it gets bonus points already. Because it is about an area and they went to that actual area to film the movie. This is what I've wanted, forever. I think he's most points for that. That's, that's one of the things I'm,

Aaron 51:56

I'm excited. I'm also excited since I go to the hospital, like, at least once a week that I'm gonna, like, go into a store and be like, excuse me, just like oh, hey, Leo, what are you doing here? So that's fine. There's no thing that I want from this by them, whatever, you know, like, too good to be the

Collin 52:24

cast is a little extra, just like hey, you come here, you're gonna stand in the background and nail this hammer. Like nail this fits together while Leo walks by like,

Aaron 52:32

okay, and just you see an overly tall red haired guy in the back of the camera that

Collin 52:40

but totally not here. And it's fine.

Aaron 52:45

Comics I just pulled up the killers a flower moon book. It's actually one of the first books in a long time that I actually have not been in before like put down in right here on the cover says the Osage murders and the birth of the FBI. By talks to there's there's a museum here in the hospital, which I would actually love if the whole family came down for like a weekend. And you know, I take you around to some of these places. And there is a museum up there. And I was around remember talking to the guys up there. He's like, you can read the killers of the flower moon, like what's your what you really need is that you need to read the book that you know if the actual, like the FBI files that they printed and are selling, and the guys listening is like really honest. It's really boring. But like you want to learn like what was actually done done is like I highly recommend a device I'm used to reading that reading police file.

Collin 53:44

Does. I'm not gonna lie. Just keep

Aaron 53:47

rooting him. My book is like all that books dramatize. Of course, it is fun, like, I know that. But um, yeah, I tried to read this and then on page 582 this was that on this day.

Collin 54:03

Oh, wow. Like interview interview is random guy from Yeah.

54:07

It'd be kind of cool to like, have around. You know, that's, that's

Aaron 54:14

where I got the one Have you ever get

Collin 54:16

it for reference? Like, I'm gonna read this one page? You know, I mean, like,

Aaron 54:23

like, I that's also where I got the autobiography. Which, I mean, going to Oklahoma State. Super cool.

Collin 54:32

He's a big orange cowboy, right?

Aaron 54:34

Yeah. No. struggle to read. But I'm a cowboy Macao? Yeah, I'm having fun. So you've written you and Susan actually got me this book. And at first I was like, oh, because I was reading this like this. My favorite books of all time, though. Ha, you

Collin 55:01

He's all Susan's idea. So I'm gonna give her full credit for that. So

Aaron 55:13

yeah, I'm saying, Are you gonna say something beforehand? And then I completely enrolled? Yes. And what were you gonna say?

Collin 55:22

I didn't write it down. So I think I was going to ask for a description of what was going on in the brain and ask for that later. Okay, I think it all working in the end. You had some sort of comment after my rant about it's actually going to be filmed on location. That was where you were also at? No, I would No, I think I was going to say could you like what? How about a brief description of what what it is, though? Okay. Okay. Okay, we got that other way. Yeah. Nailed it. They all work together. Ah, yeah. on accident. That was good. Yeah, that's cool. So do we know Do we have like a release date on this? Do we know if they're still filming now? Obviously, so I guess I mean,

Aaron 56:22

I haven't heard gone according to the word the production of Scorsese film kickoff late April to shoot is expected the last film to be ready to release by December 2021. Oh, really? I got pushed back because it's still filming. That's maybe next year? Yeah, I mean, I'm not I'm not gonna lie at all. But like,

Collin 56:53

since you the ears the ears on the ground.

Aaron 56:58

When I whenever I know, y'all know. So alright.

Collin 57:13

Anything upcoming Collin. You got going on? Oh. Well, very busy. Say you're already very busy. Oh, so. Okay, now, we're about it's gonna be about it. Real cooking. here soon as I'm going to start a 14 day No, no. 13 Day, how's it you're in tune? Oh, 12 while also working while also doing drop ins and other dogs while it might. That's me. That sounds not exciting. But you know, we didn't have

58:12

much everyone was like, Cool ended when we must leave for weeks at a time right now.

Collin 58:23

That's crazy. Yeah, we understand. We've even gotten in touch with you other pet sitters in the area. And they're like, Oh, no, they're like, we've we're so busy. like everybody's having turned people away. It's insane. One lady actually not man Hawk popped an owner into taking his dogs with him. Because it was like, You're, you're not going to be able to find a place a that has availability or be a price that you can afford today.

Aaron 58:54

Cuz he was like, Oh,

Collin 58:55

yeah. She was like, cuz he had a dog. And he said, Well, you're looking to board them somewhere. You're looking at $40 dog per night. Like a dog $8 a night? And she was like, yeah. And then he was like, Well, what about just coming over to my he goes I was planning on he was I was budgeting 20 it she said that will buy you. What? Yeah, she's like, that'll get you a one drop in. Just one. Oh, my gosh. So he was like, realistic dawg. Expectation prices. What is happening? I know. Well, so that's uh, she was she was kind of bemoaning to me on the phone today about her yesterday about it. I was like, Yeah, I feel like we need to get so I'm trying to come up with ways to bring together some of the pet sitters in the area to kind of do a simultaneous location, cooperative thing about what it means Right, have a pet because, yeah, the number of people this year who have reached out to us, and I was this is the marketing stuff. But you know, people don't know what they don't know, they don't know that they need something different than what they already know, a people already when, if they think of having the dog taken care of, or one of two things, one, I'm going to board it, because that's what I know, I'm going to put them in a kennel with that. I'm going to unboard them, or to I'm going to have my neighbor or family member come and watch my dog. Well, then people's family members or neighbors for like, a night. Right? Right. or family members and neighbors are getting older, and can no longer do dog care, or can no longer come over for a week at a time or whatever. Yeah, or friends and neighbors already have prior commitments and can't take time out of their schedule to watch your dog before it's all right. Yeah, or they're also gone. And so they're to defaults immediately get wiped out from underneath them, because most of the boarding is full, and the owner in their friends, family can't do it. So then they come to us and like all of a sudden, we're having to do a good educational opportunity of this is a viable option, right? doing three drop ins a day, for your pet to come in, either give them a short walk the medications, do all this stuff. And if it takes a lot, I feel like people in that mindset have that. Okay. It's not not that they quote just okay, but it's totally sufficient. And your dog will be just fine. And yeah, right. So there's, there's a lot that goes into that, obviously. But where that's something that we're kind of trying to start working on together as well. That's cool. Yeah. Let me yeah, hopefully that takes off and you can do some stuff or segue time, you could maybe volunteer for round two of this. So I this is a few months old now. But I just want to think your thoughts on this. Since you need some time away, Collin. Yeah, since you're gonna be so busy. Back in April, the very end of April. So just in France, they they ended some sort of like isolation study, where they took 15 people, and they set them in the bottom of a cave for 40 days. Oh, big giant, like super deep cave in France, right? They put them in there for 40 days, and then left them. A like the deep time project, here's what I wrote down. And so the goal was to see like how people adapt to extremely drastic changes in their living environment, and how they like handle that. And so I'm gonna call it are you signing up for that? Round two, you know, you want to live in a cave in the dark for 40 days, I think I'm pretty good. I rather crazy. So some of this stuff, like, they like basically a very quick from what I read about this, very quickly, everybody completely lost any sort of sense of time, right? And they just sort of created their own a new one based on. So like, it was just kind of like, whenever they felt like they being slapped. And whenever they need to do things, they did it. And then like, they developed like, stuff they needed to do. Like they kind of just delegated all the tasks so everybody could do their stuff. And when the team came to get them a lot of people were very surprised, like, oh, you're back already. What are you doing here? And some of the people were so committed to this and they're like, well, I can't I can't leave yet. I'm not done with my, my job. I was doing over there mem and I'm gonna finish Oh, wow. They had so completely settled into this new routine. And this like mini society that they've created within 40 days of working with each other that they're like, I mean, do we have to leave yet? We're not done. We're doing stuff so like, apparently they weren't bored. In this case.

Aaron 1:04:31

That is crazy. It's insane. I can't even imagine what was the finding?

Collin 1:04:43

Well, that was just it was just about it was about kind of like people's I haven't read the published findings yet because I don't think they had like, that was just the it was over. And so I don't think they had finished they might have by now so I might have to go back and double check on that and see that but it was kind of just like how about adapting To like extreme environments, right, so this is like the thing about like extreme isolation, like space travel, stuff like that kind of in that kind of regard of what's, what's this going forward? Oh, that was kind of the point of it. But yeah, it was pretty nuts when I read that article. Also, let's just talk about like, how they have some like, some stuff published, you know, so you could look at that. If you just googled like, French isolation study, Blam. There it is. Like, I have seen too many movies. I am not sleeping in a cage for sure. Already. Oh. There's something the offer I'm good. Like. I've seen how this ends. This is so weird, like complete sensory deprivation, right? Like, complete, like no contact with anybody else except for the pregnant few people that you're there with. Could be very, very weird environment, and maybe colonies to escape to a cave in France, after his hectic time in the next few weeks. So we'll see. If we can't get a hold of him here and we'll know where he is. He's in a cave somewhere. Um, yeah, we'll just have to wait and see. So on that. That is installed. That's a word. Tired. Words are hard. It's okay. Think about how hard they're going to be for you when you come out of your cave in Missouri. Right. Maybe I can just find one here locally. You don't have to go. I mean, I can almost guarantee you that you can like get out. Yeah, that's fair. Warning. Easy. No. Okay, well, challenge for next time. That goes. We do need another challenge, but maybe not living in a cave. Maybe not going on and Gollum might not be a good pork challenge for him. Oh, yeah, that's sorry. It's perfect for Gollum spoilers. Well, we'll work on a challenge for next time. And until then, well, maybe not for next time, but I think we do need I was thinking about that today. I was like, Oh, we should do something. What I don't know. But will you have our promise that we will think about it and then probably forget about it. Yes. It'll be on the list. Possibly. Love you guys.