No sonic space

We check our audio settings. Aaron visits Coffeeville, for obvious reasons. Today is new guitar day! Main topic? Gate keepers!!

SUMMARY KEYWORDS

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SPEAKERS

Collin, Aaron, Brandon

Collin  

Welcome to Oh, brother, a podcast of three brothers trying to figure it all out with your hosts, Brandon,

Collin, and Aaron. 

On this week's show. No Sonic space.

Oh, going on.

 

Aaron  

No, I'm just getting my stuff set up. And then surprise here it is. Oh, I do. Yeah. Question for you. Okay are you on your zoom window in the upper left hand corner where it does where it says recording

 

Collin  

Yes. Is there something that says original sound

 

Brandon  

next to it? No, no. Okay.

 

 

No. Oh wait, what's this?

 

Aaron  

No, I have a little thing says meeting information. And then that I'm using enhanced encryption donta.

 

Collin  

Okay, let's try go down to the microphone, the lower left click on that up the chevron the carrot, Chevron, go to audio settings.

 

Aaron  

Okay. So I have selected microphone and select a speaker down at the very bottom audio settings. Okay, got it.

 

 

Yes. And then

 

Aaron  

go down and click Advanced. Do you have an Advanced button at the lower right hand corner? Oh, yes. I was looking at your top. Okay. So I'd never noticed before. I'll still test at keyboard shortcuts. Oh, What?

 

 

So the one that I like to use is when you mute yourself as long as you stay in the zoom meeting window. If you push and hold the spacebar, it'll unmute you. And then you can let go and it'll Oh, I see that now.

 

Aaron  

I always just my microphone has a button for that. Oh.

 

Collin  

The problem with me is that I am since I type and I'm looking at a bunch of other stuff like I can't do that.

 

 

Oh, yes, that's fair. That's fair. I tried to I tried to do that last recording

 

Collin  

and I was like, I was saying these things that's like, they just keep talking over me what I have to oops adjustments now. You know how Aaron feels all the time.

 

Brandon  

I did. I did. There was a few times where I was talking about we could pause and like nobody said anything. I was like,

 

Aaron  

Okay, yeah, I was anyway, advanced. Yeah. So

 

Collin  

try and look and see does the show in meeting option to enable original sound for microphone is that

 

 

is that can you check that? Ah, is that checkable is now checked. Okay, so and then

 

Aaron  

and then everything else. It's all auto. Okay, the press noise cancellation.

 

Collin  

And again I don't know if this is gonna make a lick of difference because this is not recording locally on your machine. Yeah, I have I have echo counts cancellation on auto Yes. And then I have suppress intermittent background noise and suppress persistent background noise on disabled.

 

Brandon  

Oh, Manzano. Yeah, that's fine. That's fine. Okay,

 

Collin  

so so if you jump back, if you x out of that, you jump back into the zoom window, upper left, turn on click turn on original sound. And then you can select where you want that sound to be coming from. That says turn off original sound. Yeah, that's fine. And then click on the little drop down arrow to the

 

Aaron  

right. And then click your microphone. Oh, I need to click microphone. Yes. Microphone Yeti stereo microphone. That one yes.

 

Collin  

Yeah, apparently apparently that's supposed to increase sound quality.

 

Aaron  

I don't know. I can't tell the difference but I think there's so much compression with zoom anyway, I was gonna say I probably doesn't matter. Oh no, you changed. I didn't. Yeah. That's, that's trippy. I am. sound the same to myself. So I'll take your word for it. Hey, Aaron. Hello. Hey question. I have some instructions. I haven't some instructions for you. Have this part out because it's boring as heck are you on your phone? Yes. Okay, nevermind then. Forget all of this. Ah, I mean Oh no. I don't think you can on your phone. Girl you must be doing what he was making me change my microphone settings to see if my sound quality. He doesn't like my sound quality apparently.

 

Collin  

No, no, no. I just I something that I've always, I always had checked on mine. I have added, but I was like, Well, I don't know if that like if you guys would have that

 

Aaron  

or not. And then if I could detect a difference. So anyway, cool tech support overseas, what's going on? Oh, you know many things. I don't know what about you?

 

Collin  

Let me tell you about this really cool technology that I found that I appreciate very much to help with my

 

 

ADHD, whatever stuff while I work,

 

Aaron  

I started to play with playdough and have you it is amazing. It is wonderful.

 

Collin  

Just break out some Plato because I have two children. So I have a lot of Plato also have a lot of Plato around.

 

Aaron  

Yeah, lots. And, yeah, I'm like as I'm working, I'm just playing with just immersing it in the ball rolling into little shapes. Man, let me tell you what, this is amazing. It's wonderful. There you go. That is a thing, right? The, the like the fidgeting thing, you can occupy that tendency your brain can like focus on other stuff that is there are things about that. Yeah. And the problem is finding something that's like, not just obnoxiously loud, right.

 

Collin  

So typically, it's a pin or like a pencil sharpener. I'll sit there and kind of obsessively sharpen a pencil over and over and over.

 

 

Or so when I was like, You know what,

 

Collin  

I attended this meeting a while, like a long time ago, where the lady handed out book containers of playdough and colorful pipe cleaners. And she just put them on the desk and like, I just had a sudden flash to that and I was like, Oh my gosh, this will help me so much.

 

Aaron  

The problem I have with that was the last. One of the meetings like our meeting days at school that we had Right, there was playdough involved for some reason. I can't really remember why or what we did with it. Because I spent the whole time making platonic solids out of the playdough. So I made like tetrahedrons and I like, right I like made all these different, like sided figures, like six sided polygons. 10 sided polygons, like four sides. Yeah, I spent a lot of time doing that. And I didn't I think I zoned out there for a little bit I was so focused on my like 12 sided polygon that I was like, wait, what are we talking about? Well, cuz I, I actually have and that's what if you hear the rustling in the background, I usually have waiting fidget cube that I purchased on Amazon and I would sit there at work. And just like, I don't think and hear that, but I can hear that's the problem. They click. There's so clicky. And so there are there are some ones that

 

Brandon  

are less clicky. But I bought it,

 

Aaron  

not thinking about it, and then I would take it to work in the office and just be like, oh, click, click, click away. Like that's fine, you know,

 

 

a lot louder than I

 

Aaron  

thought it was, especially in a relatively quiet office. Yeah, but it's got I'll send a picture here in a second, but it's got a doodad over here. That little Rolly thing. It's got a little joystick. Yeah, I've seen those before. And I see I saw like other ones that are more round and smooth. Like I've seen the What do they call like the smooth the rub stones, the smooth stones, and it's kind of got that to some places that he just said They're just rub. And I would sit there and I've also heard them called worry stones. Oh, yeah. Okay. Yes, I had these doesn't say, I think I had one. I never like used it I just like had it's one of those things that somebody gave me. And I'm just like, Okay, cool. And I just had it. I've also seen that have you seen the little plastic things that go on the top of your pencil? And they're like, one of them's like, a nut and a bolt and you just kind of like roll it up and down. It's like a like a thing there. And there's like all kinds of like different little thingies. I've seen those before, too. Yeah, you're supposed to look for kids. They're very brightly colored. A stick on top there and they can just mess around with them.

 

Collin  

So it's good to know that I'm not alone in my fidgeting and that

 

Aaron  

no, I do it all. I used to do it with some sort of like pin or whatever is nearby. This is why it work. I have a yardstick meter stick okay. Sorry, it's a meter stick. Man, I have that. And I'll just, like carry it around sometimes. And the kids like, what are you doing? I'm like, What are you doing? Like, I just like, I carry around and like, play with it while I'm doing lectures. And while they're working, and I'm walking around checking on all the work and stuff, you know, I just sort of have it around for similar purpose. Plus, it's easier to turn the projector on and off with that thing, because it's mounted on the ceiling. So yeah, scope, click, but I mean, I can reach it, but sometimes there's a desk underneath it, and I know, you know, fall on any children. So make

 

 

sure you don't. You don't want to have to write that in a report.

 

Aaron  

Yeah. fell on. Student child. Yeah. So yes, you are not alone. This is a big problem. Problem is a thing that people do. Problem was the wrong word. I apologize. Yeah, I do. I used to do with like a pin, though. Cuz I just sort of roll it around to my fingers. I don't like I still have I still have issues with paper straws or straw wrappers like that. It's like restaurants so I do now at this point that's just the correlate

 

Collin  

I have, and it drives me insane. But I do that know that I do it. Oh,

 

Brandon  

Wednesday I definitely do

 

Collin  

sitting there talking and it's twisting kind of like braiding it rolling it over making it smaller. And you know, just keep twisting procedures. And she'll be like stress pointed out, like I don't know just oh, this is my hands. Oh, no.

 

Aaron  

No, at this point, it's just a thing that I do. I'm expected Susan basically expects me to do it. It's the the, I just have to what is it the the napkin and silverware rollers? I play with that too. Yeah, whenever I worked at Eskimo Joe's I had a I would have like, four or five of those like in my little pouch. So does that if I was like bored. I probably got like nervous or fidgety, I would sit there and like roll it up and, and know that they're playing with it. And by the end of my shift, I'd look at my little weight bag. Like how did I get 12 of these? Yeah, I do that as cool as thing I do because I like have something like a pen or something in my hand. I'll just be like, looking around, not even really paying attention to it until it goes like clattering into something. I'm like, Yeah, what was that? I don't know. It wasn't me. Or like, it just could be literally anything like a piece of metal or like a rock, like it doesn't really matter what it is, but I will drop it eventually. And so draw unwanted attention towards myself. Because I'll be doing it so absent mindedly that whatever it is, we'll just go clattering to the floor. There's another reason I got one of those silicone wedding rings because I would do it with my wedding ring. Yeah, sometimes. And Susan threatened to kill me. So like, Hey on that I stopped How? How is how is yours holding up? Well, if we're gonna be completely honest, since I haven't really left the house in like months and months, I haven't even been wearing it. It's just sitting right here on this table right in front of me holding up well, it's holding up fine because there is no use. So we'll see if that continues.

 

 

See, very few people are willing to go that route.

 

Aaron  

If I just don't use it, it will never wear out. And so right. I I'm not holding my expectations very high, because the other ones broke just so fast, immediately. So I'm really not I'm gonna either have to look for a different like style of one. Because I think part of the problem is this one's like single plied silicone rubber. You know, some of the other ones have like multiple bands. I might have to get one of like an upgraded one, or seek out a different company. Cuz I don't know, I mean having to break already. I mean, the fact that they just send you a new one no questions asked is nice, but it's also really annoying to have to do that because he's just got a whole thing. I mean, it's really easy. Just take a picture, email him, you know, it's broken, and they're like, Hey, here's a new one. What are they gonna do with all their emails? They need to send you I mean, that's true. I haven't got one in a long time. I think I unsubscribed from the emails actually. I believe we talked about that because it was literally every five seconds I was like no I don't care stop I'm afraid I'm afraid to go back on their website because I finally stopped seeing their dumb ads. So like I don't go back system and so my eat I don't my YouTube as a show back up with that guy. They're like, No, no, no, no, no, stop. don't want I don't want that. Just, I just want the thing. And then you don't need to show me commercials for a thing already bought. Okay, stop it. But we have a whole episode about that. So we want to talk about that too much more right now but so yeah, just not wearing it's simply sitting in front of me. So not being worn isn't sitting at home, so that's the matter.

 

 

Yeah, but now I'm definitely gonna have to in if when ever I'm back in my office, I'm gonna have to stash some

 

Aaron  

tubs of playdough around because this is nice. So, you know, a family make your own kid that always turns out well, right? Yeah. No, it lasts so long. So it's good for like five seconds and it's like yes. turns into plaster like, Oh, I messed up. Oops. Nevermind.

 

 

Yeah, I'm okay with With that, I'm uh i'm okay with not not too long ago. So

 

Aaron  

that's what I always start talking

 

 

about

 

Aaron  

this week and last weekend

 

Brandon  

was a bit of

 

Aaron  

work kind of all over the place. So I'm on called this week for all of Osage County. So anything that law enforcement or anything popped up, they go to me. And I'm not gonna say anything more about the matter because I don't want to jinx it.

 

 

But

 

Aaron  

it's the last weekend. We kind of wanted to get out of bartlesville and we went up to the metropolis of independence, Kansas, to which we

 

Brandon  

Wow,

 

Aaron  

we hiked the Elk City Lake The trail mountains, mountains trail hike thing, which was phenomenal. We hiked that and then we went to the little homestead of the Little House on the Prairie, where Laura Ingalls Wilder was had allegedly stayed at which historians and people that are like well, we don't know like where but here's the well that was dug from that time period. So we're gonna say it might be around here. So they have a little little. That's right. Shelby's a Laura angles enthusiasts, right? Yes, she can't quite the no historian of Loras, Ingle, Wilder. So we ran over there and then the original plan was to vert. So we original plan. I didn't want to dry what happened to Paul. Sorry, I was thinking about to show him in the barn. No. We we didn't want to drive back to bartlesville and then drive back up the next day. So my brain was like, why don't we stay in a coffee Ville? So we stayed in that hotel and coffeeville

 

Brandon  

I don't get ready to say that. Why would you do that?

 

 

Don't worry about it. So it we stayed at a really nice hotel.

 

 

I am worried, which is the only one I'm gonna say

 

 

isn't there only one colony

 

Aaron  

feels like very not large. Yes. So we stayed there. And then the original plan was we were going to go back up to independence and go to the zoo that's up there. Because coming from years of going to be a wall Yeah, I have never seen like the actual tower. Allegedly a zoo. Oh, you didn't just leave and go walking around town with your friends? No. Oh, me neither.

 

 

We never did

 

Aaron  

do that. That's silly. That's irresponsible was always there. I always had to stay around. And so I had never like seen the town towns always like six

 

Brandon  

hours between the parade in the field show. I was like, I'm going to buy some ice cream.

 

Aaron  

So the D, because one year when I was up near Walla, like I actually walked through the zoo like it was actually open. And I was like, I'll be really cool to go back. But it was I was just kind of hide. And I was like, Well, you know, just know it's not a very big zoo. And so we went instead to the Tulsa drillers game

 

Brandon  

down in Tulsa.

 

 

And where I got my knees burnt.

 

Aaron  

They're the only parts that weren't covered or sunscreen. And so I had nice little red knees from rookie mistake, forgot the knees. It was it was really fun. And so we did we did that. And then that was Sunday and then this week, I've been on call and I will be I'll be off call Monday morning. So kind of laid low. Tonight. We actually went to the it's a restaurant at the What does that do design that place?

 

Brandon  

The restaurant we went to

 

 

frequent, right. Frank Lloyd

 

Aaron  

white, right? Square. Yes, very square, nice design this this building in downtown bartlesville. And there's a restaurant on top of it. And it's a very fancy, very bougie place. And so we did that in the we galavanting around downtown bartlesville explore the sights, walked around, just kind of, you know, got out of the house and kind of like say, just explored, and it's like, oh, wow, Frank Phil's built that like Oh, wow. Frank Phillips built that do it. Oh, wow. Frank Phillips built that. Wow. So it was very, you know, Frank Phillips themed, I guess it's day And then we drove drove through downtown, which I drive through almost every day kind of to go to work. But I just never had time to really like appreciate the historical significance.

 

Brandon  

But

 

Aaron  

it was just kind of cool to go and walk around and then I sent Collin some snapchats videos of us being down there. And then we got ice cream and we hung out for a little bit and I prepared and are watching baseball right now. I got fed up with not being able to watch baseball, so I I subscribed to MLB TV. And it's a little annoying, because I can't watch close games for some reason, like the Kansas City Royals are playing right now. And according to the little live chat thing, it's like well, this year too far for the subscription. So I'm watching the Yankees and Boston for some reason,

 

 

cuz reasons.

 

Aaron  

But because they draw more of an audience than the Royals

 

Collin  

Now, if you had a VPN on your network, you could trick it. Wow.

 

Aaron  

That's actually why do you say that? kahlan? Huh? Who said that? Who said any of that? anyway? I'm just drinking my coffee. Hashtag not sponsored by VPN services. No, but if you want to cool if you want to go in is

 

Collin  

if you so here's it. Here's another trick. If you're on Netflix,

 

 

and you go, huh, I wonder what the Netflix

 

Collin  

is like. In Japan. Khan wants to watch some more British comedies. You can flip your VPN to say that you're in Japan. Refresh your Netflix and watch to

 

 

your heart's content. Boom, all the anime you could ever want. Take that?

 

Aaron  

Pretty much. You just as a hobby just like pick a random region. Like what's happening in Belo Ruess, boom, go? And like

 

Collin  

depends it depends on if they have services there to make a real difference and sometimes it's just true American Netflix or American whatever. Like they just they have their because they don't have very specialized programming is

 

 

TV programs though. Yeah, it does. There are some where it's like, well, this isn't exciting. But then you're like, Okay, cool.

 

Aaron  

That does kind of make would be kind of interesting because like, I to be honest love the show Rick and Morty and season four Why not? Cuz reasons in season four is not ad on Hulu yet, but it's already like been shown in like European countries and like Now hold on. I want to watch it. How can I watch it and why is I not watching it? There you go. So wait, I was also confused because for the longest time I didn't know what VPN was because our state system is called VPN Yep. So when people are like, dude, you want to get a VPN. I was like, why do I want something for the state? Like, that's dumb? No, no stands for virtual private network. Network, right? Is that correct?

 

Collin  

Okay. And you can roll your own, you can set it up to, if you make your, if you set up your own home server, it's nice because then you can always VPN back into your home network to access on network files.

 

Brandon  

Oh, that's true. I am definitely not fancy. That's the most

 

Collin  

people use it for private browsing. So anytime that you are, I have it set up on our devices so that anytime we log into guest network, or one that's not a one that's already approved, it automatically connects to a VPN to spoof where we are. Yeah, it's like another layer of security, especially with mobile stuff. So when you stay at a janky Hotel in coffeyville, Kansas, and you want to use the internet, but you don't want all of your information to be stolen, because a lot of booth and terrible public internet Yeah, it's a terrible public internet service. You can

 

Aaron  

or if you just want to go to your McDonald's like, Yo, I'm gonna use McDonald's Wi Fi, but I don't want all my stuff stolen by that guy over there in the corner with the laptop. I'm gonna Yeah, with his foot up looking like some dude from one of those movies where the government's definitely chasing him, right like it's always like a scruffier. Jason Bourne. You're like, yeah, yeah. So like,

 

 

he doesn't know how

 

 

fast how far he could run flat out at an hour at any No, but he knows.

 

Aaron  

He could type. Yeah, it's more than me. It's a lot more than me still, so it's fine. Yeah, I've thought about that before but like me, I just I don't it's just not within my needs currently. Something like that. Right. Like, sure. Was my home Internet's janky as we've discussed before, although there is a new company in town that's doing like fiber. Well, we might check into that. Maybe we'll have to see how much it cost but yeah, we shall see. Cuz that would be dope. Yeah. Have you host all these meetings down? Yeah. What's up? We'll have to get it. Yeah, you know, I still have my computer can handle that, but the speeds would be negative. Sometimes. I didn't do anything else exciting. That was a lot of stuff. You've been an adventure boy. Yeah. You know, it's gallivanting through the rural fields of Kansas. And and being away, and our there are waterfalls in Osage County around us. I remember speaking of this several we did talk about it. Yes. Yeah. We talked about this Shelby shirt as they existed. I includes a link in our show notes. I went and got my haircut today. And the By the way, looking fly thanks for asking. The the wonderful lady that cut my hair, besides talking about the three topics of hair, why is where's the Oklahoma Education Fund? And where's that money going conspiracy we talked about. Now, of course, I can't remember the name of what we're talking about. But there's something blue blue, something that's around busca and they're like, no, yeah, that's like a 15 foot waterfall. I was like Well excuse you. impasse got you sure? And she's like, yeah, we've literally went there this weekend. I was like, Oh, you say, Now Aaron. Yeah. Aaron Didn't you know Darren, you shouldn't go chasing waterfalls. You should just stick to the rivers and lakes that you're used to. That's what I've always heard. It's wise words from

 

 

PLC.

 

 

I think we made the same joke The last time we talked about the waterfalls, right?

 

 

It's all a joke I have okay.

 

Collin  

You get a tight 15 on waterfalls. Come on your

 

 

focus for waterfalls

 

Aaron  

might be the only one that or something about a barrel. I don't really know my

 

 

bear roll.

 

 

Oh, it's a Starfox

 

Brandon  

joke that got me. Wow. It was

 

Aaron  

surprisingly, one of the only games I have never played. Brad had it our neighbor remember our friendly neighbor? Back in the day he had one friendly? Yeah, I mean, yeah, sure. Anyway. Yeah, he had a neighbor. He was our neighbor. He had it cuz I would go over there and play his he had a Super Nintendo I believe so we would play that I think Starfox was on there. I think I think it was there or maybe somebody else I don't remember. I played it somewhere. I never had it. Sega for life anyway. All my friends I'd find my neighborhood Sega my other friend had Sega I bought a Sega so we could swap it out. swag games, man. So you got to do. There you go. So you've I'm glad you found this waterfall this elusive waterfall. I try to remember what it's called. I'm like googling. This is why no one can find it. No one can remember its name. It's mysterious. Game waterfall. The Forgotten waterfall. bluestem Falls, blue stem falls. There we go. may have typed in waterfall around pawhuska question mark, and a boom. Biting picture. sending it to you. There we go. All right, Aaron. Now that

 

Collin  

include another live show. Nice. There we go.

 

 

Perfect. In case you're wondering, this is the we also references waterfalls on our episode. Cool. That's helpful from back end. March. Oh, yeah, there we go.

 

Aaron  

Tell ya This is a toy apparently an actual totally real not made up place turns out so it's good to go.

 

 

Boom. That screenshot sent what it do. There you go. I love the article about them starts.

 

Collin  

You've probably never heard of this amazing waterfall.

 

Aaron  

You're right. You are absolutely correct. That's that happens a lot in Oklahoma so it's probably never heard of it. But I'm really afraid that's most of Missouri as well, right? The only thing people know about Missouri is that Kansas City and St. Louis exist. basspro is there somewhere, and Branson is a place. It's a guy named anything else. Arrington so that's that's something else. We'll probably spend some time Entering to going back and forth being like oh yeah, a waterfall there's a little place like that. But yeah, go ahead sorry. Is there i mean is there like other is it is there like other stuff to do there? Can you go hiking around? Just like yep yeah there's a waterfall. I can't confirm because I just heard about it like four hours ago that's fair. But because it like Ryan river you can go down there there's like the stream but you can also go on the hikes and stuff so I didn't know if there was like other things there or even like I'll buy jolly mill there's I think you can go walking around a little bit over there. But not not as much but there's other things so I don't know if you could if you just went and like looked at it. You could like do other things. I

 

 

I think you can like

 

Aaron  

date coming soon. What do you do once you find the waterfall? Yes, I'm putting it in. That'll be that'll be the next week. But your homework is gonna be to fill out the so you found the waterfall.

 

 

Now what?

 

Collin  

Yeah, right. Right. Get your travel travelers guide ready if I can. So you found this little note, Jim very deep in the heart of Osage County. Well, what you might not know is that a lot more than meets the eye. Follow me. I'm ready. Wow. Someone's been watching too much travel channel this week.

 

 

I'm just ready for Aaron's

 

Collin  

Oklahoma Travel

 

Aaron  

Guide series. Oh man. Am I ever ready for that? Great.

 

 

mini series coming

 

Collin  

soon. Have you built me an arrow?

 

Aaron  

She'll be there and explore Oklahoma. Have you ever seen that little video of like this Kind of nerdy guy dressed up. He's like, wow, you're talking about trees. like wow, this is this is a spruce because it is. Wow, that's neat.

 

Brandon  

Wow, that's very 2009 First of all, thanks for that doesn't really

 

 

tell it how does

 

Brandon  

a nine two before times as

 

Collin  

before lots of times

 

Aaron  

that's true. That's before lots of times. But I was I was a wee junior

 

Brandon  

at the time. yells Oh,

 

 

I was young. But now I am the master. I'm

 

Aaron  

sorry. I'm confused about what TV show we're on right now. We're in Star Wars keep up going. Yeah, we say

 

Collin  

they're wonderful to You do? Yes.

 

 

Without piping on, everywhere.

 

Collin  

She's against someone's triggered G's

 

 

playoff playoff he can't handle much more.

 

Aaron  

Brandon gets triggered about ads I get triggered by waterfalls. Fight There you go. That's fair. We all have our own special thing. Okay

 

 

Braden, how was your week?

 

Aaron  

You know, it was alright. Not I didn't really do anything but we you know, we also ate a new restaurant. So there's a new restaurant that opened up here in town. I don't know exactly when I think it's been open for a little while. It's called like Jamie Lynn's dining to go or something. Something like that. Jamie lens is definitely in their bio only bring it up because it's very, the business model is slightly intriguing. Right. So they bought out they bought this like, it was like a liquor store slash service station thing I don't even know what it was it was just like a really janky building that nobody ever went in. And they turned it into like this restaurant, but there's no dining at all. It's only carry out because it's not very big, just a little tiny building. So it's like, kind of like a food truck almost. But instead of a truck, it's just a little tiny. It's like this little building. So they they do all their orders online, I think because you might be able to call them and not really know. Basically, you just like, go on their Facebook page and say, like, on Monday or Sunday night, I guess. She like, posts the menu like this is what we're making this week. Oh, yeah, that's Yeah. And then you just sort of go Yep, I want to have those. And then she goes, Okay. Boom. Yeah. This it's really kind of a very interesting little system. They got going on there. We had it. We tried it this week. It's fine. I mean, it's like, it's very, like Southern Cooking stuff. We had some like chicken and some the other day we had some meatloaf, like meatloaf and all, but Susan and her mom do so we had some meatloaf, you know, this is fine, but it's pretty good. It's not It's not my favorite style of cooking. But I thought the concept was very interesting. that she'd be like, this week, it's this. Go and then people just say, Yep, I want the whole, you know, two or four or whatever. And she just sets it up and you come pick it up before they close it, like 630 or whatever. And like,

 

Collin  

yeah, there's, that's really cool. I like that business model because it's, uh, she knows exactly how much she needs to prepare. It limits the amount of waste hopefully Yeah.

 

Aaron  

And and she can say, Okay, well, this week is gonna be this because I was able to get this at a good time. I got a good deal of ingredient or whatever or, you know. And so it's always, it's always changing. Right? It's kind of interesting that you can, it's always something different. And you, you know, it's just kind of whatever their chef's special, right, whatever they are doing. Yeah, I guess she used to work at one of the restaurants in town before. So she's got a lot of restaurant experience. She worked somewhere else. I remember where the Susan's mom said the other day. Oh, it was on the black kettle was up there used to be restaurant. Black and I was like, yeah, we have that. Yeah, we might. Yeah, I think we did. So I think she was somehow affiliated with that she worked there or owner or something. I don't know. But that's cool. Because that was it said they closed it down. I guess you just started this up. So it was kind of interesting is neat. Ryan's kind of cool. Again, not really love just like, tons of Southern food, but, you know, it's good that potatoes were really good. So there's that, you know,

 

Collin  

it's unique to right that's,

 

Aaron  

yeah, that's cool. There's something different right? It's better than it's way different than like, oh, let's get a pizza. Right whatever you know. Yeah this

 

Collin  

place out in warrensburg called cafe Blackadder and that's what they do. They do it they don't do a come by and pick it up like you can come to their dining restaurant location where you can

 

 

Oh, yeah, but it is very much a like,

 

 

these are the things we found today. Or, you know, these are what our suppliers from local farmers gave us.

 

Collin  

Yeah, that's pretty cool or whatever. So I'd like that because it really keeps the it's a hyper focus on the local economy and it makes them what I like about that is that if, if they try and they build those relationships with farmers are with suppliers like it, it really builds that relationship to you. Right, they want to maybe they want to do something, but they don't have access to it. Well, you know, maybe somebody can start growing that for them, or they can source it or what else

 

Aaron  

should I like those kind of relationships? Yeah, that's very interesting. I don't know how much that's happening. Currently, we do have lots of farm suffering. So I don't know if that's any events happening. But sure, the potential is there. It's, it's cool. She's only open during the week. Right? It's like a monday through thursday thing on the on Friday or not. But that's another way they can she can really focus on all this stuff. Because I think right now, it's just two people doing the whole thing. So like, open for lunch and dinner, but again, they close it, like last pickup is something very early, much earlier than I normally eat dinner. So it's really like, Oh, it's something like that. So they can probably do stuff for the next day. But yeah, it's just open once dinner, flap, like, here's the menu Boom. So allegedly, she's been very busy, which is cool. Again, it's new hyperfocus thing is really good, especially for lunches. I imagine a lot of people that work, because there's lots of businesses right around here that have, you know, lots of stuff. So they lots of people go on lunch break. So if you're like, Hey, I can come by at 1130 and get lunch and check, you know, boom, done. There it is, don't have to worry about it. You just go and pick it up leave. Like that's probably really good. For lunch. You know what I mean? I have a limited time you only have an hour or less, in some cases, 45 minutes or whatever.

 

 

So they

 

Aaron  

can go and do that. So that's kind of cool. It was neat. I liked it. I just thought the bit again, I have the business model was interesting. Mm hmm. Yep. Post how many you want and I'll just reply to you. That means you will have an order. That's That's kind of the check, right? She looks at it on social media and goes, got it and she like likes it or responds or some way. And that's how you know, you will have fun.

 

Collin  

Yeah, and that, you know, sure that doesn't come across as it's a very simple but easy system and she doesn't need a whole lot right now.

 

Aaron  

Yeah, I mean, that's really, you know, I mean, he's got to use what you got. Right and that's Yeah, I mean, if that's the way you're gonna take orders, people just come in and do it and then leave the heck yeah, that's pretty. Pretty cool idea, really. So I was just like, well, that's pretty awesome. I like, liked how they did that. I thought it was pretty cool. So yeah, that's kind of the only real that's neat, exciting thing that we did this week. Except for today is best day. Baking because today gentlemen is a new guitar day. That's right. It's new guitar a

 

 

picture coming up.

 

Aaron  

But it was new guitar day today. So I can't have it sent it can't go question.

 

 

How long have you been looking at this one?

 

Aaron  

Quite a while, actually, I've been having this problem of where, even though I haven't played in a group, for many months now, we haven't been able to get together and play, you know, because of reasons. Like when you play in a band with another guitar player, and a bass player and a keyboard player, like it's very hard to stand out in some way sonically on a sonic level, right? So you kind of have to diversify. What your sound is like, okay, some fashion, right? And the guitar that I've been using is just it has these, like the pickups on the electric guitar. Obviously, the pickups are very, like very dark sounding very like full range, but they're very dark and kind of like full sounding. But again, when you're playing with another guitar player and a bass player, all of those Africans He's like, get lost churi great easily. Alright, so I was looking for something a little bit brighter, you know, because they're like, Hey, you should play some lead guitar like what isn't happening. So I got this to try to stand out a little bit. I just want something different. Something a little more interesting. So we went with listeners a gnl tribute Delaney model. This is based on a 60s jazzmaster design, what it looks like. Okay, so what was it about This this one this sound that that you liked. So this model these are the other one I was using has this humbucker pickups that doubled, like two single coil pickups stuck together to make it kind of canceled home. That's what they originally designed for by the Redux. So this one has these big whitespace single coils and they are kind of they're a brighter sound. Right? Sure. And it's like more attack and they're brighter. They can be a little thinner, but that's not too bad if you can tweak it a little bit, but also the so the pickup design is different. This is a this company gnl is actually was actually founded by Leo Fender after he left Fender guitars in the 60s. Okay, so he sold Fender like 65 or something. And then he went on, and he started Music Man, actually, you've heard of them before. And then he quit there. And then later he was like, No, I still want to make guitar. So he started gnl. So the L and G and L is Leo Fender, right? So he This is very long. So these pickups are like something new that he designed later, he was like, well, because he was like a tinkerer kind of guy. He was like, I'm gonna tinker with electronic circuits. That was his thing, where he didn't actually even play guitar. I don't think he just like, wasn't electrician, like a really, really genius level electrician. So they just kind of have a different sound plus the electronics section in there. They don't have a traditional tone knob. On a guitar, there's usually this tone knob that rolls off frequencies in the in the signal. So you either basically there's a potentiometer in there, that limits the frequency signal that goes through so you can Mostly everyone just leaves a wide open so you get the full thing. In a traditional guitar, you can roll that down and you kind of cut the high end out. And you can kind of get some more low frequencies. But this one has a bass and a treble circuit. So it like you can kind of it kind of has like onboard equalization a little bit on it already so you can kind of sculpt the sound a little bit better that way. That was kind of what I was interested in was it looks really cool. So that's a bonus. Yeah, that's the other thing is that a lot of the other guitars I was looking at it was like well, it just doesn't you know. look cool. Just looks like yep 12,000 other people have that guitar. Yeah, cool. So I mean, and they don't you know, some of them don't sound what I was looking for your like your traditional like Stratocaster. That's not that's the Exactly the sound that I'm trying to go for, you know what I mean? So you kind of have to start with the guitar and then go from there. Because that's the terrible part about guitar playing, you get this sound stuck in your head. And then you just spend forever trying to get it right.

 

Collin  

The terrible part is, is is that is if you hear if you hear a guitar and I in your eyes with most instruments, too. Is it is it the guitar? Is it the AMP that it's running through? Is it you know, is there's all these little steps in the chain sometimes that's all it's all of it. That's the problem. Right? Exactly. So if you're like I want to create this sound from this what you know that I heard, oh my gosh, like,

 

Aaron  

yeah, go down. That's the problem. That's the big problem. So like it Yeah, it's the you know, the pedal like the amplifier. There are some people that are like Joe, it's the electric impedance that's in the cable. Sure. Yeah. I mean, that's part of it. I mean, you need like a 50 foot cable for that to happen, but to lose that much impedance and signal but yeah, there's they kind of go nuts. And, uh public service announcement time. Oh, any more questions about my new exciting guitar day other than hurry? Before you said you had more questions. I was gonna give a PSA here. Sure. No, no,

 

 

no. Yeah, we hit the big ones. So you can do the PSA now, okay.

 

Aaron  

So this is for any, any other listeners out there that are guitar shopping or know somebody that might be interested in and are looking around on the internet. For information about guitars. The Internet guitar community is very full of snobbish gatekeepers. I'd like to caution you to be aware of these people. Right? Because they, these are people that have been playing guitar for like 45 years and are convinced that only original 1959 stratocasters sound any good? Right? This is kind of what happens. We'll kind of get obsessed and I'm like, No, you have to have like an original Fender amp or you have to have this one Marshall made this one year because it's the best one. No, stop it. Even young guys out there that are like, Oh my gosh, this hand built guitar built by this one guy in Nashville that cost me 40 $600 is the best guitar ever. like, Yo, what you're trying to tell people about a guitar on the internet and you're playing a guitar that costs 6000 right there like yo This like some people on there, they're like, oh, like even people that I like, you know, I like to watch sometimes they go crazy and they're like, Oh yeah, this is my, you know, to rock amplifier, that sucker. That's the most expensive are you ever gonna find and they're like, Oh yeah, I really like it like I I would hope so I would hope that $7,000 buys you something that you really like, okay? But that's not a that's not a realistic expectation to set for normal people that have like normal jobs and and just do it as a hobby, right? That's not I know that every community has these people, right like any niche thing that you're into as these people so you can relate to this, right? It doesn't matter what it is if you're into photography, if you're into this is also in the fountain pen community in case you're curious, I have a small fountain pen collection. And some people online are like, Yo you have it's only this one certain niche Or this one inkling.

 

 

Or they say, Oh,

 

Collin  

I traveled to Japan hiked up a mountain where there's a monastery that makes one pin every 10 years. And I yeah, and this is the only one that you need to buy. Yeah,

 

Aaron  

there's a lot of people that like, you know, rightly or wrongly, they allow like poopoo on important manufactured instruments, you know, like, Oh, it was made in Indonesia. Mo it wasn't built by one guy in a cabin in Montana. It's sort of, like, come on, it's, it's fine. It's okay. Like, a lot of these people. Part of the problem is they have, especially with the import guitar thing, right, like, import guitars, even as far as recently as like, the early 2000s were hot trash. Yeah, like, like, barely played, right couldn't stay into to save their life, you know? 8000 pounds. Really not good instruments. But that manufacturing has come so far. And there are so many really good factories out there that you can buy guitars for cheap that are really good. Right? And there's a lot of people that do that like professional musicians like Tom Morello from Rage Against the Machine. He plays that Telecaster. He bought that at a pawn shop for like, no money like a long time ago. He's like, yep, this is my guitar. Now. I'm playing this. And that's it. The same one for me schools of thought. There's these people that are all like, Oh, yes, this hand wired amplifier is the only way to get any good sound like no, no, no, no, that's no Hold on. Yeah, I, I don't know. We can

 

 

count how long we've been recording here. Let's dive into a main topic. Yeah, sure. Whatever.

 

Collin  

I really liked this idea of gatekeepers, because as you said, Every community has it in the example that came to my mind, was that a podcasting of the people who go well how do I start out, and then immediately people respond with, here's my setup. And and either two things happen, they either go, here's my setup, and it took me 10 years to learn so just

 

Aaron  

yeah, it's like it's like a

 

Collin  

professional studio. They don't have a dining room anymore because they built into a studio and they invested $10,000 in audio equipment or whatever. Right? And they go, this is how I podcast

 

Aaron  

those people online It was like pattnaik x thing and like, yes, you know, so many minutes using tools around their house, but then it's like a picture of their workshop in their garage just like literally every tool ever made on a pegboard on the wall and you're like, no,

 

 

I

 

Collin  

I that I have that mentality of being a gatekeeper at it. By putting forward what you do as the best option,

 

 

and I don't understand that, because

 

Collin  

I think what's more important is to help people understand what their favorite things are. Right? Like, why, why immediate, like, well, if you don't spend $5,000 on this, you're just trash and you need to go away. Like, why not say, look, it took me 10 years to get to what I use right now. But you can go down a path and you need to learn what you need, what you want, and how you want to sound and figure in and here's how you can help decide. And I think it's more important to know why you're using the things that you use or why you like the things that you like, as opposed to being spoon fed something from somebody who has way too much way more money than sense. Yeah, telling you that this is what you need to do. This is what you need to buy. And if anybody tells you the different, they're you know, they're ridiculous and it's like yeah, Don't I cannot wrap my head around the mentality of keeping people out because they're not doing it your way or willing to do what you tell them. I don't know. It's just Yeah,

 

Aaron  

it's a weird in the guitar community again, there's this weird like, like there's kind of a joke that the people keeping the guitar industry alive are doctors and dentists. Right?

 

 

These people,

 

Aaron  

they're just like hobbyists. And they don't, they don't play out, they don't play with anybody else. They, you know, they might go to a jam night or they might play with their friend or whatever, but like, they don't like play or record any music and they have like thousands of dollars worth of stuff, like 10s of thousand dollars worth of gear. You just have it. Like, I'm just gonna get it. I just need to have it because I saw it online. So I need this pedal. Right and there's nothing wrong, a little bit of the cool in there. If you want to do a very specific type of sound. That's a relatively inexpensive way to get it like if you want to change yourself. have drastically buy a new pedal, boom, done. way different. But like, you know, I see what I saw, I think that I was watching this q&a thing. And this one guy was like, Yo, what do you think about this? Here's my pedal board. And I looked at that and you use all those, like 15 pedals on this thing. And if you like, that's not that's too many. Like, there's no way you use all of those at once again, this is a home, I'm gonna play at home, whatever man do whatever makes you happy. That's cool. But like that's not really usable. It's like, you're not gonna take that to your friend's house because it was enormous. So I saw I watched the thing about that talked about people who started you know, the, the left plays for games on you. tube. And then yeah, there's another one. Oh man that, that I watched that he had a podcast where he talked about it and he's like, man, I like when I started YouTube. He's, you know, he talked about like, I worked like, two jobs and like it was my, like YouTube was my third job. Because, you know, I tried to get that off the ground but like, it's like when I started I had, you know, a cheap Walmart thing. And he's like, you know, it's, you know what you do, but a lot of people, you know, talk about how you do it, but he's like, man, if you have good content and you like enjoy, what you do is like, you can make it because like, I literally started with a $12 microphone, and like a little like gaming camera. It's like, that's all I had. I had like my brother's like, PS, you know, three, and I just kind of went from there. And now he's got like a insane setup, but he's like, for anyone that wants to start on YouTube. He says like, for gaming wise, like just, you know, be relatable. And like kind of all this stuff, and he's like, yeah, you don't need a $1,000 microphone like, yeah, it's gonna make you sound cool. And all this stuff is like, it's just, you know, people think they need to have that. But it's like, as long as you have good content and enjoy what you do, it's like it's a vastly different field. Yeah, that's a big, that's another big one. They're like, well, you don't have this thing or you don't have that thing or it's not as good as this like yet. No, maybe not. But it will be. I'll calm down. It's okay. I just got started, right? Yeah, it's like nobody learns. I mean, somebody probably does. But nobody learns to play guitar, like a 59. Les Paul, right. For those of you don't know, that's like, the Holy Grail gold standard that's been manufactured in people's minds of the 1959 Gibson, Les Paul is the one. It's literally the best guitar that's ever been made in the history of the world. Right. And part of that reason comes out In my opinion, this is opinion land that reason comes from like that those years of Les Paul refers people like back in the day those used to be cheap. Like, well, this person played one, like, yeah, cuz they bought at a pawn shop for 200 bucks. Right? It was it because that's the only one that was there. And they played it. It doesn't really have to do any like, for an example like it doesn't matter that Jimmy Page played a Les Paul it's the fact that he was Jimmy freakin page man right the guy

 

Collin  

over the fact of who is playing it,

 

 

yeah, this guy is

 

Brandon  

fantastically amazing musician. guy could play a shovel, and it'd be like, Oh, that's the most beautiful music I've ever

 

Aaron  

heard in my life. shovel

 

Collin  

doesn't matter. It can be anything. It is that tendency and I get caught up in this too. I listen to somebody everybody does.

 

Aaron  

Everybody has their own.

 

Collin  

Yeah, things or whatever. And you go Oh, what are they using? What are they writing? Yeah, how are they doing it? And you focus so much on the tools that you completely forget about the content, or again, whether it's actually the right thing for you. I mean, I have gone through so many productivity apps on my phone because somebody, someone so recommended it, or if this person that uses it, I'm like, Oh, sweet. Well, if this person uses it, I know, I'll try it. And I'm like, this is crap like this, this does not do what I want to do, instead of taking that time to think about, what do I want it to do? How do I want this to work? What will work in my workflow? And what do I need from this? I'm, my tendency is to go, Well, this person said that that's what they use. That must be the best one. And it's like, yeah, that is so hard to break. Because I don't and I think we're

 

Aaron  

all guilty of that, right? We all do that no matter what the thing is, or that what subject area it's in. We all get caught up in that like, oh, that thing's cool. I need to you know, that will help me do this.

 

Collin  

And unfortunately, that lends more power to the gatekeepers,

 

Aaron  

right? Yeah. I mean, like See, I told you

 

Collin  

You, you talk about or you you have more and more exclusive things, more and more people look to you, right? It's just kind of this weird feedback loop of, you can't it's hard to break out of that cycle of Okay, well just go do your own thing, right, just stop. There.

 

Aaron  

There's, there's an interview of it with is Joe bonamassa. He's a very famous like blues guitar player. Right? And he's he this this interview. He's like, he's like, trashing He's like, I don't know why people need you know, this or this amplifier or this pedal. You don't need pedals. He just turned your amp up really loud. says the man playing like a vintage like 1959 Fender baseman sure and like a 1960 Les Paul Custom right like he's like, Oh, you just you don't need any that stuff to sound like this. You just turn this is like, you know, 50 watt amp. Nobody turns out ammo out loud anymore. Nobody that doesn't happen is that like, explode your head. You know, you do that. Like, he's like, No, you do this. It's fine. You just have to have this original 59 baseman. And it's totally fine. I understand what you need all that stuff. Right? Like,

 

 

you know?

 

Aaron  

No, you sound like any we sat right there. Nobody can afford that. What are you talking? And there's like, four left, not four. But you know, there's there's like not many out there. So the prices go keep going up forever. That's the other argument to the guitar side note is they're like, oh, all guitars and they were made in x year good. Like, not really, because I was so long ago that all the bad ones are gone now. And like the eight that are left might be good. But that's because those were the eight that were good. And the rest of them were bad. And people didn't take the time to fix them. Or maybe they like you didn't. You didn't think about that. Did you?

 

Collin  

Yeah, well, I think I think the other weird world that this dives into is a Violence.

 

Brandon  

It there's literally every world right i mean tools. Any instrument world. Yes. pacifically violence. Oh my goodness.

 

Collin  

Like, what's the best violin? Oh, this uh, molotow strategy Valerie from 1697 that's that's the best one best violin like Yeah,

 

Aaron  

what? What is it? Are you I'm sorry, what?

 

Collin  

You're playing on something from 1687

 

Aaron  

Okay, yeah. Yeah, those are always crazy because they're like x ray them and I try to figure out what made him so good and all that stuff like, and they were like, all these crazy theories like Well actually, this is old growth wood and the rings in are are so close together and that makes the resonant frequencies differently. Like my favorite one was okay.

 

Collin  

Actually, it's because it's moldy.

 

 

Seriously, ah,

 

Brandon  

it was just leaving real expensive violin in the garage for a few months and it will

 

Aaron  

sound better.

 

Collin  

Don't do that don't actually do that. People with violence don't they're, like do not recommend because these things are approaching. Literally 500 years old. Yeah, you know, in some cases, it's just because they've got like fungus. That's why they sound pretty hilarious today is not how it sounded. No, no, bleep Sherlock. It was when it was brand new. It just because it's aged like okay, that's

 

Aaron  

the other thing too about guitar is like the wiring and stuff that gets old and worse. Right. So what that guitar sounds like now that you think sounds like super cool, right? That's what it used to sound like, when it was built. It didn't sound like that. Right? There's all kinds of other weird guitar things people like argue about what kind of wood a guitar is made out of? Or does it even matter? And they're out there talk about like the amplifiers like oh my god, they all like, you know, you have to buy these really expensive tube amps because solid state transistor amplifiers are just no good again, 80s that was that was true, right? Yeah. Now, is that true? No, no, it's fine.

 

 

So, I guess I guess the next tip is advice for overcoming gatekeepers or sidestepping them or doing your own thing. What would you guys say to people struggling with that? Or how can

 

Aaron  

we you have done that? It can be really hard. Like, we'll just stick with this guitar situation. Sorry, all the listeners that don't play any musical instrument and are really bored by this, but this is the only point of reference I have currently. Or the best one because it's been on my mind lately. Like, normally, one of the best things to do is like, try it for yourself, right? Go try something, you know. Not just because the world is currently ending, but like, sometimes that's it's not possible to do that. Like it's not feasible. Right? Like if I can't just go like I live very far away from any music stores. Yeah, I mean, it's like I can't just go Try it out, you know, I mean, like, if you want to go try this thing, like maybe you can't find it or you can't find something like it, or you're curious about something, and you just have no access to it. So you kind of have to rely on the internet a little bit

 

 

to try to figure out

 

Aaron  

if that's a thing that you would want to just, you have to remember that, like, the stuff they're using online, it's not stuff that you have, right? Or it's not similar to what you have. You have to try to take in your mind like think about all the variables that are different between your situation and the situation the person on the internet talking about this thing or showing you this thing, right? doesn't necessarily have to be guitar could be a pin, right? Like, oh, does this person you know, what is their background? What, what do they know about this? Or, you know, what are they using this for? Do they have you know, are they were using this In a situation similar to what I would like to use this for, you know what I mean? So it's, it's, it's hard again, with guitars, it's really hard cuz you hear it on like line. It's like, Oh, that sounds really cool. But maybe when you get it, it sounds like trash because they were playing that guitar through like a, you know, $5,000 fire, you just have another one. It's, it's not necessarily worse, it's just different, right? Because if you have a different brand of amp or whatever, it's gonna sound different than they sound different from each other. That's why people buy them. Like one sounds different from another one. They have their own special character. So like they're playing through this one, but you have this other one sound different. You kind of have to take into account these variables and be like, break it down. What do I have to do? Why is it different? I think about what you're actually trying to achieve. Like with my guitar, I had a very specific set of criteria. Like I need a sound that will cut through a very mid and bass heavy band mix. Write it very narrow criteria. Like I need this because the other guy, he plays this old guitar and it's just really stumpy and very driving and very like bass heavy. And then the bass player and the keyboard, so all these mid range, frequent mid range and low frequencies are covered. You can't put anything, there's no Sonic space for anything else in there. So I need something that will cut above that and help go through and that combined with this amp I have I have one of these. I have this Vox amp. They're known for being very top in chimey. Cuddy right. Now they have some other characters, but they're also known for being very it's like the AMP that early Beatles albums recorded on think about that sound kind of like really bright, jangly, kind of like, gritty sound on a little bit later ones. That's what this thing is, is kind of like that. So what I got a really good deal on it, but it's not like sometimes that's it too. That's another. That's the other big point for me really want to think about it because again, I'm a teacher not have any money. So you got to think about cost benefit to like, How much is it actually worth to me to do this? You know, when you have people be like, Oh, this thing is great. And it costs as much money like no, I'm sorry,

 

 

can't go out.

 

Aaron  

Not interested in that by

 

 

right. It's not

 

Aaron  

as good for you. I need to think a little bit different. So that's a kind of a hard thing. You got to think about your situation and what you need. And then how does it line up with other stuff? That's my thoughts. I don't know about you guys. What do you think about that? airman. Uh, I was so in entwined with what Brandon was saying. What was the question again? How do you combat gatekeepers in your niche hobbies that you like, and you get around that. How do you go? How do you kind of dissect the bull hooey? Well, so what kind of Brandon was talking about was, yeah, I just kind of got it. I was like, Oh, that's that's really good. And then I've kind of forgot the overtone. Sure, sure. Stop. Just stop that. What I was talking about, like with, um, it's kind of hard for like things with like history. Because everyone like, especially on YouTube that claim to be an expert on something. No, no, no, no, this is how this was or no, no, this how this was, um, you know, for something like that, you know, it's basically you know, do as much research on your own, but sometimes like, you know, with with video games or like YouTube stuff. I always thought doing like gaming on YouTube would be interesting. However, whenever I play video games, I am not interesting, like at all, but for someone who wanted to start that and because I know when the Big Four Knight boom occurred, there was a lot of people or a lot of kids at a really young age that are like, Oh, I want to be a YouTuber, and I want to do fortnight and you know, Ninja has all this stuff and I want and so it's kind of like no platform. Whoops. It's It, it, it goes back to like, like if you enjoy, like don't get into something just because someone else is doing it. Or just the fact that you know, that one thing that the one person is playing, it's like, oh, I could totally do that to it for me. You know, I, I play games. Number one as a stress reliever. Number two, I'm a child at heart And number three, just because it's fun that I enjoy it. And so having something that you truly enjoy and just, you know, kind of something that blocks you out, do your own thing. And then you know if it's something that you want to take the next level in a quote unquote professional setting. Like just, you know, do what you can afford, and then just kind of build it from there. And the less that's how a lot of YouTubers start, like I said that one guy was like, I had a $12 microphones, and that's all I had. And then he just kind of build up from there. But there's some people that are like, I've watched that are like, yeah, I still have the same equipment I've had five years ago, just because like, I don't, if I make money from this awesome if I don't, man, whatever, like I'm just doing it, you know, just because I'm not a caricature. But like, you know, I, you know, people think I'm funny. So I just got to put that online and just have at it. So you know, and that's how people start on YouTube as you know, I know if I make money awesome, but I just kind of want to share my joy in what I do. And what I'm doing, you know, with, you know, what, at the time was like, What five followers and then just kind of build from there. So I mean, if you want to get on like, I know getting on Twitch is super easy, and a lot of people just go to that. But just do with what you have do with what the timeframe. But if it's if it's something that you want to do,

 

 

you know, you're gonna

 

Aaron  

have to invest a lot of time and you are going to invest a lot of money, but having those people that's in your way, it's like, oh, you need to do this, or Oh, I have a 1200 dollar gaming system, like, No, just like, use your laptop, see if that works. And then just build from there.

 

Collin  

Yeah, no, I, you know, both you guys touched on the fact of understanding why you're doing it. And, you know, the world of I just have two examples of podcasting is huge. Like I mentioned earlier, that question of what mic should I get? That is fraught with many, many decisions and the number of people who immediately respond with a less true with a 1500 dollar microphone and they go, Diamond, right? That's exactly right. That's exactly. Someone who goes, I'm 15 I'm starting out what's the best microphone and they go, boom, here's this 1500 dollar microphone, and you're like,

 

Aaron  

oh, Move that sure sm 37 that bail. Yeah, sure.

 

Collin  

Yeah, right. Yeah. $500 sucker. Yeah, one where you go? Okay. Actually, you're asking in part of this in both of you actually, both you touched on this too is is educating yourself on on a lot, right? Sure is trying to consume as much information as possible from me is always the first step. What are what what do I actually need to care about? And and, you know, for podcasting, it's really what microphone is going to be best for my voice. And then under that, which one is going to fit in my budget, and which one is going to fit in my my room? Right? So those are the three things that I took away from whenever I started looking into that right of going, what's my hierarchy, but I only got to that point after doing a lot of reading and taking people's comments and recommendations and putting them off to the side. Okay, I need to figure out what are the qualities that I actually need to be concerned about instead of instead of asking about specific tools,

 

 

To write, and

 

Collin  

it's just so you know, the best questions to ask because that way you can kind of cut through some of that

 

 

bs whenever you have the good questions.

 

 

And then for the text example, that is slightly different is we are looking into the world of

 

Aaron  

electric toothbrushes. And this is, this is quite an adventure for us.

 

Collin  

Because my, my priorities are none of the priorities that are of any of the reviews or any people saying which one is or which one is the best. Right? I am going to potentially have four of these in somewhat small bathroom. So my actually biggest concern, turns out is noise, right? Yeah. I don't want it to be a cacophony of terror. And we store all of them to charge them. How does it look? Do you have counterspace available still, that's Yes. So all of a sudden I'm going okay, well, I actually care about in this order, noise level and storage capacity. And you know what? Nobody talks about that in a review. They may mention noise sometimes, but it's in a bag, but nobody really cares about this. And it's really not that different. And I'm going No, no, no, no, tell me tell me. Literally everything. Yeah. And so, to me the gatekeepers, there are the reviews saying, you know, they're talking about durability. They're talking about battery life, they're talking about all you know, whether it has a travel case, and in and again, I did a ton of research to just learn all I could about the spectrum of electric toothbrushes to decide, actually, for me and my family, it's going to be volume,

 

 

and

 

Collin  

counterspace are the two things that I'm most concerned about here. So that to me, again, helps cut through the gatekeepers who are sitting there going no unless you spend $300 on an oral beef The IQ or whatever, you're not, you're not getting the best brush possible.

 

Aaron  

That's going okay. You know that that's neat.

 

Collin  

how quiet is it?

 

 

To go, Hmm, if you go, okay.

 

Collin  

Yeah, if I can, if I can meet my needs of quiet by spending $50 I'm actually going to go that route turns out like that's what I'm, that's what my top priority is. So I'm going to seek out what I can

 

Aaron  

for that. Second one. I think another another interesting thing that you need to really think about, for everything except to

 

 

is

 

Aaron  

think about looking for. Like, not brand new things. Right? Look for used stuff. Again, not for toothbrushes. Don't do that. You know, for like guitars or for microphones, I bought my microphone used because I know if I like it I bought it Yeah. Used I got a way good deal on it. Cuz it was way cheap. So like, like, yeah, it might be fine new but I didn't know the answer to that. So buddies. guitars are another thing. It's good to buy us one like your first one if you're interested in, like try it out or even if you're changing body styles or you want a different kind look at the used ones because like, maybe you would like to try a Telecaster for example, but you don't know. If you you know, that's the kind of thing you actually want, you know, because everything sounds cool in the store, but like, living with it is another situation, right? Like how is it to deal with all the time with your stuff or your other gear your sound right? So like, use one and play it for a while. And if you like it, then think about Okay, what's the next step from this? Right? Cuz that'll be my thing with electric toothbrush. I don't even know if I Like having an electric toothbrush, right? So my personal first step would be buy a lower tier electric toothbrush and see if I even can deal with electrified teeth brushing, right? That's what I mean. That would be my first step. Like, is this even something I want to pursue? Is that even something I'm interested in? Right? Do I even like, I don't know, I would buy like a cheaper one. And see how it goes for, you know, six months to a year. And then think about going up to the next. Okay, okay, I'm gonna stick with this. I like it. Now what?

 

Collin  

Now? What do I go, alright, especially if you're brand new to something because if you don't have any experience with anything, you may again but the microphone someone may recommend you the thousand dollar one and you get it. Well actually with your with your preamp. It doesn't work out or you actually don't like the way your voice sounds on it or you don't shape or it's not travel ready or it's not you know too heavy for your boom arm or this or that. And all of a sudden you're like, you know what, like, I could have worked up to this and actually found out that under dollar, whatever would have been a lot. I mean, some different. Yeah, I need something in knowing that that's okay. And I think I think at the end of the day, when you take everything that we've been talking about, it's, it's, you have to fundamentally be okay with your decisions. And I think the best way to do that is to do the work right to to put in some research aramid.

 

Aaron  

And some of that research, unfortunately, does involve spending a little bit money and doing being hands on about it. Right. Yeah, like most instances, do I need to try this thing first? Right. Because like the guitar I bought today, like this is the you know, it's not like the big high dollar one. They make a handmade Custom Shop made in California. I don't need that one. Right. I mean, that doesn't suit my needs. I don't need that. I don't, that's not what I'm buying. Right. So buying it for. Right? I don't need to buy that one. I need this one suits my needs much better. So I got this one instead. But there's other tears. There's usually tears of things right that you can do even in anything else in the fountain pen world, right things come in tears. You can buy pins anywhere. I'm not joking anywhere in the price range of like $5 to $10,000. like you'd like to think that I'm joking. No, I'm not a pen. You can buy a hand lacquered arushi fountain pen from Japan. For $10,000 is the other thing has think about is your own personal cost benefit. Like is that really that much better? Like how much better is that than like these other one? Like, is it probably a little better? Yeah. Is it $10,000 worth Better. No, no, I don't think so. You're paying a lot for that, like the hand designed labor. Right? Right. Like, you know, disregarding that big outlier. Like there's even that, you know, you know, again, with guitars, you pay $500 for a guitar, and you pay $1,000 for another guitar. The actual difference in those two instruments, not just super enormous run times, right? Right. So if you're a newer guy, or girl that's kind of getting into it and wants to know, like, you know, that that thousand dollar one is not, you know, twice as good. Is the $500 one. Tell me a little bit more good. Yeah. So go with the plus one. Right? See if you even like it. You know, maybe you like it. And then then when you do, did you buy the guitar? This is the best part about guitars right? You buy one you have it for a while you figure out all the stuff you don't like about it. The next one you buy doesn't have that stuff on it. Right? Right That's your you're learning you're putting you learned all the things that you don't like. And so the next one you have

 

Collin  

doesn't have that on it like that. And you don't know what you don't know and and knowing and part of that is knowing that people are going to tell you that you made the wrong decision. And those are the gatekeepers that are trying to keep people out or keep people in a little corner keep or trying to sell you something right that's the third category real right? But you can overcoming that being comfortable with your decision through through that work. Like it does take some work it does take some research does take some hands on does take some experimenting, but when the gatekeepers come out and try and say you and your decisions, you can go look

 

Aaron  

I this is what I've done and I I'm okay with this. This is what I need it And they know they're still going to flap their feathers and get all ruffled and, and walk away huffy puffy about it. But so yeah, man, I tell you what, right now, guitarists are the worst about this, right? Anybody out there listening if you play guitar, I'm not targeting you, I promise because I'm right there with you. I know. I've said some things before and then later God, why did I say that? That was so right. Especially internet guitarist, the words are just so some of the things they say like, what are we talking about? But there's yeah there can be such a high level of just like oh, oh You have to keto. It has to be like this because that's what I like. Right? This actually means good. It means it's what you like and what suits your needs. That doesn't suit my needs, right? Because we might be using even a guitar for two completely different things. styles of music whatever, and whatever you say is good for you. That doesn't mean it's gonna be helpful for me right? I'm not gonna play speed metal. So I don't really need to hear you playing speed metal riffs on this guitar demo because that does not help me at all right? This does not influence my decision making Well, that doesn't help me because I'm not gonna watch a video because I can't you know, that's not the that's not what I'm going to be using it for. So next, right, because it helped me.

 

 

Ah, well, I think we've helped a lot of people today. There we go. Good.

 

 

So there you go. Makes it

 

 

Oh, man. Well,

 

 

good. Good stuff, guys.

 

 

Anything else before Go.

 

 

Oh, I would like to mention something.

 

Brandon  

I was thinking about this.

 

 

I think

 

Aaron  

this briefly, we like to recognize the passing of a local legendary individual from Southwest Missouri, specifically Springfield. Do you guys see that thing I sent you the other day like two weeks ago, Mr. David liong has passed away at age 99. Oh, right. Yeah. Yeah. When you're young, also known as David passed away to about no week and a half ago or so. The reason this is important. For other for listeners who are not from Springfield, Missouri and are going What are you talking about? This man is responsible for the invention of Springfield style cashew chicken and I don't really know of very many other dishes that you eat on a regular basis that you can go that person invented this right I can't really put my finger on that all I really think this is kind of a big deal yeah I just because I happen to have a just unhealthy love for Springfield styles cash okay but yeah, I think it's just really cool that this this food dish like has a name that the story is super interesting, right? He's He's like a really he was a really cool person. I never met him personally. But I've never heard of anybody being like, saying anything negative about him at all right. So little backstory just briefly. His family immigrated to the US in the 1940s. Springfield, for reasons that I don't really know the interview didn't say with his son, but they were the only Asian family in Springfield. At that time. The only one he was a world war two vet, I did not know that. This is new information for me. World War Two vet landed at Normandy beach on D day. Okay. He was a cook in army because the basically they said we need someone who can cook and he raised his hand and they said, All right, you got a job. And the interview with a son the son said, he cooked so good that the officers were like, No, no, you're gonna be our cook now. So they stole him from the man. Because he was so good at the job. They would like joke that this is the best for their head ever. Sorry, mom, but this guy's food is better. So yeah, he came back Springfield and started a restaurant wanted to kind of like, since there were no other Asian population in the area to eat a Asian restaurant, he sort of like, invented a new food that people would like. And he invented Springfield, cashew chicken, boom with the gravy and the cashews and ions and the rice. Boom, that was it. He was basically like, people like fried chicken about this way. And the coolest part of this story is that other restaurants, it became like so popular that other restaurants would start to make it and people would come to his restaurant and say, Oh, I ate it over there. But it was it was terrible. So he would like he would go over there and show them how to do it right.

 

 

invention could be enjoyed. Yeah.

 

Aaron  

Couldn't be drove everybody. It didn't get a bad name working for him. That's cool to me. I'm good cylinder. And he would just go there. So he was like a super great guy. Apparently. Sadly he passed away at age 99. Yeah. So yeah. And

 

Collin  

yeah. And he was well known for I mean, going every day to his restaurant

 

Aaron  

at liong Asian diner,

 

Collin  

right. And spending the time there. I mean, I can say it was summer last year. I ate Springfield's cashew chicken with Mr. Long at the bar. Did you really? Well, I said hi. And wow, he waved but you know, whatever. Yeah, yeah, he was busy doing other things. Eating cashew chicken as it turned out. That's important business. It was no it was you mentioned you mentioned how often do you get to have something of that honestly. Pretty big role and I enjoy eating it very, very much, you know, throughout my entire life so far and it's like

 

Brandon  

literally my favorite

 

Collin  

love to be able to say, this person from where I grew up with this amazing backstory. You know, who was a big prominent figure? Yeah, it is. It is very it's very close to home. It's also very

 

 

mixed crowd a little bit to go. Yeah. Like this is you know, into,

 

Collin  

because he was such a great guy, right that to like that. Just Yeah,

 

Aaron  

that's what that's the part that was like everybody. He guys used to travel all over the world. No, it's kind of his hobby. He would go traveling, and people that he would meet. He would just be like, yeah, anytime you come Springfield, you come to my restaurant, and I'll give you some food and go say hi, we'll catch up. And his son said, Every once while someone will just show up and be like, yeah, I met your dad in Germany, or I met your dad in France or I met your dad in Singapore or whatever. And they would They will come by and see him again and talk to him hang out. And he is like, What? That's so awesome. Like

 

 

that's quite the life. Right? That's quite to talk about impact. Yeah.

 

Aaron  

But again, I can't think of like, I can't put again, maybe this is just my ignorance in some levels, but there's not many dishes that I can put names to. Right. Right that I can go. That is the person that a lot of these things just come to us from, you know, somewhere. Right? We have them but we don't have like a name. I think the fact we have a name to go with this dish that is served all over the state of Missouri, sort of all over the country, right? Yeah. And other parts of the world like his son said that they were in China one time and they walked by a store and they had a sign that said Springfield style cashew chicken served here.

 

 

What? The interview

 

Aaron  

right and the interview is great because he was Like, Hey, Dad, do you want to go in there and eat and his dad goes, Mr. Leon goes, No, I know what it tastes like. Fine. That's good. I mean, it makes sense. You made it. You invented it was really cool. I just wanted to, because I thought it would be a good thing to talk about here. Yeah, just to bring some some light on this guy who is really cool. And affected so many people even if, like indirectly, right? Really cool guy is really neat. And again, one of my favorite foods ever. So

 

Collin  

no, it is it is a very neat story. And it is it is sad, to see to see to hear about his passing. But knowing again that the impact was so huge

 

 

across a lot of people. So I'll include some links to to that. Some interviews in the show notes about him and if anybody

 

Collin  

is here are going to Springfield,

 

Aaron  

definitely check out restaurant. Definitely stuff because I've eaten there before. It's been a long time, but I was not there. I don't think so. Yeah, no, I actually I actually gave it like, a hard like,

 

Collin  

fan moment for a little bit there.

 

 

Stay with it my coworkers. And they were just like, they just walked in, like

 

Aaron  

what are you talking about? Like, painted? world famous. David liong There we go. Even if you didn't know listeners, if you some listeners out there may have eaten that before. Now you know. Now you know the story of where it came from. You're welcome. Oh, it's more. It's the best.

 

 

My favorite. Da okay. I know what I'm doing next time. I doubt Out of dads oh my god okay

 

 

cool that is a thanks for randomness out there with that. Welcome good okay

 

Collin  

you're making fun of me episode our 36 minutes on

 

Brandon  

your calendar thing that you tried to be official with you sent me like it was scheduled for like two and a half hours. I was like, oh that scared me. And then I want to joke with you. I figured you just pushed a random button so it's fine. It didn't. Cool.

 

Aaron  

Well, you guys

 

Collin  

close out. Okay.

 

All right. Let me guys let me do