missing chromebooks!

Would you go to see The Beach Boys with John Stamos as the drummer? We wouldn’t either. Aaron is surviving, but has no email. Brandon is literally attending all of the meeting for us, and has a new demo for erosion. We discuss why having a safe place to fail is critical throughout your life. PLUS, Collin has thoughts about a movie he hasn’t seen in over 15 years.

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Collin, Aaron, Brandon

 

Collin  00:05

Welcome to Oh, brother, a podcast of free brothers trying to figure it all out with your hosts, Brandon, Holland, and Aaron. On this week's show, missing Chromebooks. Hello. Hello. Aaron, you Okay, they're the struggle is real apparently. Man. bears in town. Couldn't tell I heard you say can you still hear it outside your back door? Good. No.

 

Brandon  00:55

It makes, of course, of course. This is whenever we have like several drop ins that are over kind of like on that side of town. So it's just like,

 

Collin  01:04

naturally into the belly of the beast. 100,000 people or however many appreciate you bros that that I use. Are you exaggerating? Or is that a real life number? That's really that's disgusting. to many people. Oh, no, no, no, they. Yeah, no 300 and almost 340,000 people attended in 2019. They're expecting it to be basically just I didn't really know that many people went to the State Fair. It's odd, because that's the thing that generally, until my brother moved next door to it. I didn't ever really remember that it existed. I know. Right? It's one of those things. It's like, it's like outside of my sphere. You know? So like, I don't ever think about it happening. And then random. We all hear somebody be like, Oh, yeah, we're going to where I went to the State Fair. And I'm like, Oh, yeah. Yeah. No, I totally am. I completely forgot that the state there was in town. Whenever until we were moving here. And they're like, Oh, you need to move here in like, a week because after that there's in town. I think the fair descended there was like, Yeah, it's a weird. It's a weird phenomenon on the fair. You know, I don't know. Some really, you know, it's a it's a weird one. Like, I just never really got into it. I guess.

 

03:02

I've been to a fair before. And it was just like, I don't know, very diminishing returns from me. I feel like I went once. And that's really all I needed. I don't know.

 

Collin  03:17

Well, yeah. I mean, there's some interesting things about it. I know people will get really big about like the concert. And who they have like the beach. The Beach Boys. Beach boy, but they are but in 2021 are the things you have to think about the fair like anybody they get to the fair, was a really, really big name 20 years ago. Yeah, right. That's the kind of the fair like nobody wants to see the Beach Boys in 2021. Right. reprising the drummer, even though the reprising drummer is john Stamos, like he did that one time. Yes. I did not really that great a drummer in his time with the Beach Boys the first time

 

04:01

a little little underwhelming for honest. We so uh,

 

Collin  04:09

yeah. And then and then they have the exhibitions, and the competitions. Or the youth and whatever, and all that stuff. So I don't know. I think it's kind of it's fun. Oh, and you can go see the butter cows, right. Don't forget about those cows that are shaped out of butter.

 

Aaron  04:37

Ah, of course.

 

Collin  04:39

It's hard to know when you say the word like butter cow like what you're actually talking about. So, obviously, we're gonna go later next week, once kind of the hype all dies down. Yesterday because on the first day, we have to, we have to ride the Ferris wheel and get our face That's what I've been told, as directed those directives and we must execute. I am trying to see if we can go to like a reference back full time. Those are always fun. And, and the kids have little ear muffs that dad bought them. So,

 

Aaron  05:23

hey, we're prepared.

 

Collin  05:25

Well, I mean, that is definitely useful for a tracker pool, because that is one of the loudest things in the universe is hearing from our house. That's going on. But yeah, we'll see. Let's do it. But hopefully you can survive the update goings on, hopefully our infrastructure as well. Our our roundabout was basically just driven straight through overnight last night. Where they didn't even that would have been the tractor pool contestants, ladies and gentlemen, that's probably that I didn't even try. They just plot. Goodness. So that's, you know, that's something else. But I saw that I was like, of course, of course, it's the one bendy bit in town and yeah, can't be bothered with it. Oh, I left. Let's be real. They are people from like, Central Missouri. So what most likely happened is somebody went I never seen one of these before. And just like drove right through it. Yeah. Yeah. I guess they just did it totally on purpose. Like, Hey, man, this would be hilarious. Watch this. I blacked. Like, that's what happened. 1%. And they even they didn't even go like, it's even slightly skewed to the left. So they were coming from ease. And usually right. You know, roundabouts always go to the right, where you go around them? They Yes, we left and then through. Like, perfect. Why would they you started going in the wrong direction, and then corrected you guys. This is why this is why we can't have nice things. Missouri this, this right here? Why? Why? Why can't we have nice things. So I had to break everything. No matter with you. Oh, but again, I feel like I feel like I don't know, the the fair intrigues me from like, a historical perspective, right? Like, history of fairs, like the traveling show thing. I find that kind of like mildly interesting. But like, I don't want to go to one. Because I feel like they might This is my personal experience. And this is for fairs in the Midwest. So all you listeners outside the Midwest, please feel free to tell me how wrong I am. But like, here, the only sound kind of like a good idea. You know, sounds cool. Like everything about it sounds cool. And then you go, and it's just like, a massive disappointment. Like every level for me, like, oh, there's gonna be this stuff. But it's like, there's rides, but they're all kind of like broken. And you're like, looking at him. And you go, I don't know if I want to ride that. You know, like, there's food, but it's kind of like, not good looking when you see it. You know, like there's music, but it's like I said bands from 1520 years ago that you forgot existed. Like one year in high school, I went to the fair with my friends. And like the big draw that year was the Charlie Daniels band. Right. It's like early 2000s. Not even remotely relevant at all. So I think I think there are historic moments. Right, that can that started. That happened throughout the fair that are kind of cool to think back through about what, what's happened there. It's kind of crazy to think that the fare currently sits on almost 400 acres. And it is it is a lot I did not realize that. Yes. Yeah. It's very over overwhelming. Because it because of its size when Megan I went to the Dallas to the Texas State Fair, in Dallas. And I was just absolutely obscene, like on a whole nother level. I think you have to definitely go there for a very particular reason. If you're just like, I want to go to the, your, you were not going to have fun. But if you're like I'm gonna have fun, okay, like at least it's a goal. And you can I mean, I guess that's true. For us with the kids, it's, we're gonna find animals. We're gonna strip rocks and we're going to ride like a ride? done it we can spend three hours there and not have been out. I'm out. And I don't have to worry about oh, what's your exhibit? I don't have to because they don't all night. Yeah, in their day around the different events that are happening at different stages across time and like, make sure everything lines up and like It's so confusing. All man that yes. So I'm gonna throw in my antidote for this is beware of fair rides. So my fair ride experienced in the last time I ever wrote a ride at the fair, I think I was in high school, I went and I got on that. It's like the one that goes like, it's so you sit in this little cage thing. Right. And it goes up, like, it looks like a big like, belt, you know, it goes up and down. But the little cages roll around this. Yeah. And so I sat in this cage, and they put that little metal bar thing on your lap, you know, to kind of hold you in place. So the rides going. And I'm not again, I'm not a small person. So I was kind of like tightly squeezed in this cage, right. And so rolling around, and all of a sudden, this bar thing pops open. And I went flying forward and like my face slammed into the cage thing in front of me. Right. And so my head just bounces off of this door, like gobo. And so I like rocket backwards. And I spend the last like, I don't know, 45 seconds of the ride with my eye like, kind of turn my hips sideways. So I bought to lock you shoving my elbow into the seat behind me with my left hand and I had my right arm like forced forward onto the door so I could like stabilize my body.

 

11:58

So I walked it roll and tumble around inside this little cage with no lap belt on.

 

Collin  12:05

It was not a good experience. I was very dizzy. I almost threw I think the only ferrite I wrote since then was like low one. It's just like the little car that like goes around like the little go kart track thing. Or that once but like after that I was like Nope. No. Broken ferrites for me, staffed by a dude who like, sees you bouncing around to the cage and goes well, anyway. brah like, no ride, stop, no, nothing. Just my head careening off of a metal cage. And then trying not to repeat that performance for the next like minute of the ride. Yeah, that's why we're gonna stick to like that the only high profile one, the Ferris wheel. You know, it at least it's not it's not squirreled away in some deep dark corner.

 

13:08

Literally central center stage in the fair alley or in the ricer. Hopefully that one is maintained slightly better.

 

Collin  13:17

But who knows? That's exciting. Yes. Then bear. Bear time, your week, your next two weeks ago. I forget. It's two weeks. Also. It's not a month. The Dallas the Texas bear is a month. You know they over trying to overachieve with their stuff. The X Yeah, two weeks. It's like, it also ends on a it ends on a Sunday, though. It's just it starts on a Thursday. So it's going on right now already. Currently currently. Yes. Okay. All right. You're in our third day, third full day. Woohoo. Now. Something. Anyway. Air man, you surviving.

 

Aaron  14:20

Yeah. Yeah, dude, do pretty good. first week of school. We started Thursday. And then Friday, we have our first scrimmage for football, this coming Friday. And then a week after that, we will be having our first game. It's a little tedious right now, because I don't have any Chromebooks in my class. It's kind of hard to teach a computer class with no Chromebooks so I kind of had to improvise on A few of them. But I'm teaching a middle school. So it's relatively easy. Someone did make a really smart decision to put like all of the boys in one class. And then like all of the girls in another class, I just have like nothing but like classes of like all people. So it's it's a little little tedious. But

 

Collin  15:26

that's odd.

 

Aaron  15:27

Yeah. It's kind of sucky. But yeah, I think the first first two days, I'm pretty good. I'm very interested to see if I actually have Chromebooks in my class. As of Monday, I don't have a whiteboard in my class bill. So I don't know how I can, you know, do that things. I can't assign anything to Google Classroom because the school program doesn't have me listed. And so I am just the email. Oh, no. So I have an email. But as far as like the grading Wingate, we use one gauge. Oh, okay. Yeah. So I'm not listed in that for some reason. And the reason why

 

Collin  16:10

is a problem.

 

Aaron  16:11

And so I'm just kind of just hanging out by then. Do you know what I can't what I got really?

 

Collin  16:17

Assuming you use like Google Classroom without that? Well, I yes. But I

 

16:22

still don't have Chromebooks to tell Well, yeah, I mean, that's, that takes a few days to get because they got to sign them out to everybody. And they got to make sure everybody's heard that the form and like, Yeah,

 

Aaron  16:32

but for us, though. Like they're they're only keeping Chromebooks like in each class, like their kids aren't taking them with them. All the other kiddos, all the other classes have their stuff. And so yeah, they're like, oh, you're teaching computers or keyboarding. And I was like, great. Where's my Chromebooks? And they're like, you can use you teach computers and like, great. Where's the Chromebook? So that's kind of what I'm dealing with now.

 

17:05

So we're the first two days actually, just cursive handwriting.

 

Aaron  17:11

I wish, you know, still pretty much no getting down with expectations, getting everyone on the same page. The schedule is, it's weird that you can because again, no small school problems. Everything is like the schedule is just like, off so either. You out of etc. So yeah, I have old middle school kids. So that's not a problem. Really. For me. The problem does happen is when you give like middle school and high school kids, because someone thought it was a good idea to kind of off shoot the schedule. So even though like, yes, you don't have middle school kids at this time, you know, but you know, you have high school kids waiting out the hallway, the hallway for your class start, but you can't do anything yet. Because you have middle school kids in your classroom. It is a bit wonky. That's really weird. Now you have breakfast for a first sixth graders, even though there I go. Yeah, you know, you'll only do you know, um, you know, you only be assigned one day to do it. I was like, Oh, yeah, sure, I can do that. And then they're like, Oh, no, you need to eat have lunch duty or sixth grade, like every day, like, Oh, that is not what the schedule permitted me. So that's cool. I'm excited. I get to be with sixth graders. I'm their class sponsor, but like Still, the sixth grade class is so small, they just combined it all into one class. So that's still a little bit. There's 25 of them in total. So they just kind of put it all into one grade. Right? Go. This will be fun. So yeah, that's um, that's kind of been my week kind of balanced scheduling. Getting up early to drive an hour is still a little bit different. But yeah, I'm getting used to it. It's not a bad drive. I don't get traffic or anything super early in the morning or anything like that at

 

Collin  19:37

you have your car back.

 

Aaron  19:40

Do what? Your car. Yes. Oh, so I'm picking up the car tomorrow. Yes, it was a fuel pump issue. Although afraid to fail, but it is the only issue with it. He said there's probably other things wrong with it. He's like but the main thing to get your car like moving is the fuel pump. I'd like to start there. Boom. Yeah. Ooh, no. So Well, we'll see how that goes. But yeah, that's kind of all I'll be talking about. They have the place I took it to his is kind of weird. They're not open on weekends. So we kind of had to do a little makeshift thing of paid leave the car there. I'll pick it up with the other set of keys. Just leave the keys in it with every other automotive place in town is open on the weekends. But yeah, he's, he was really nice. They got it done, even though they said like, Oh, yeah, it'll take like, no, give me. I'll get to it next week. And then he called me like, Friday, like, Hey, we got your stuff. And I was like, Oh, that's actually Thank you. But

 

Collin  20:50

he's got the stuff faster. They thought like, Oh, hey,

 

Aaron  20:54

though, I was kind of expecting to be out of pocket on the car for like a good while. But yeah, they got it done. It's ready to roll. I'm gonna go. We're picking it up tomorrow. We just been kind of all over the place today. And so like, I will just, it's not going anywhere. We'll just get a car. True. Anyway, yeah. So other than that, school, school is going good. We'll see what next week brings, again, if I have Chromebooks, if I don't, if my whiteboards not up, I'm just going to stick it on the wall. Like put some desks on me that does TJ Oh, no. My plan, my planning period is kind of nice, because I get like a legit hour, just to get lunch. And I get my plan period. So it's kind of nice, actually, you can get caught up on things do the things I need you to so I'm getting into the rhythm. It's nice. I'm really enjoying my kids. They're a little bit of a handful, but majority of them are pretty good. Good. This is good news. So Brandon, you're you're transitioning. Yeah,

 

Collin  22:05

we started back this week. Like it's just in service day. So I had like 12,000 hours of meetings. And like, growth plans, and other things I don't even know, like, new, like technology in services, and they changed our gradebook things. So that's exciting. But I don't have any kids in mind yet. So like, I can't see how it works. Because I haven't filled out my classes. So they're all like we do this to make an assignment. But you can't try any of that if there's no class. So I guess I got wait on that one. gotta see how this is all working out. So that's been sort of it, and then just sort of trying to figure out my life. And we have to offer these like training videos, you know, for literally everything in the world. And then at some point, also try to remember what I do on the first week of school, like, What do I do? Remember, good thing, I wrote it down somewhere. I just have to,

 

23:21

I just have to find it. And then it kind of build out my

 

Collin  23:28

first week. It's around here somewhere. So I was doing that. And then I sort of like I was just dinking around with my files, and converting them into the format I wanted them in. Because I decided to change one of my things like in the middle of the year last year, so I have some of those done, but like the ones from the beginning I didn't do yet. Like my son my student data stuff. Yeah, I just want to in a different format that they can use easier. So I was converting some of that over for my first unit. So I was like, okay, we're gonna need this soon. So blacklists district and then try to do all that while navigating new administrative, dude. So that's a big unknown in the whole like everything right? Like what is this guy? Why I don't know what's happening, you know? So that's a whole mysterious thing, right? Trying to do all that nonsense. So we'll see. I figure I'm just gonna keep doing like I normally do things. And if somebody doesn't like it, they'll tell me I guess I don't know. That's definitely a way to go. torture. You know,

 

25:00

The whole thing I talked to my principal about a little bit, because I was kind of panicking, you know, because they're all like, data, you know, charter board quantifiable data, and I'm like, I just, I have this, is this what you want? Cuz I always feel like,

 

Collin  25:22

I don't know, I feel like sometimes. Like, I've we've talked about this before, I think they're like, the things that they want. And the things I want are not always the same things. Right? It's like, I want them to be able to, like, physically show me things, like, do this thing. Right? Like, you know, build this thing for science or whatever. It's like a bat? Carnival? Is that good enough for you? Like, is that what you want? Can I put this on your little graph? You know what I mean? Like, I don't know, that's,

 

Aaron  25:55

that's kind of the same problem that I'm running into is that there's this school got one of those developmental grants, like several years ago, and like, everything, everything is data oriented, which, which is fine. Nobody's good.

 

Collin  26:09

It's helpful. And it's a good idea. But like, I'm just worried if my data is like, is it sufficient enough for?

 

Aaron  26:16

Yeah, so there's, there's a lot of it that's like, Oh, hey, you know, do this, and then, you know, chart, you know, X amount, all of that on, you know, you have to have a data wall. Or you have to have like, kind of all this other stuff. And it's like, I don't know how to do that. Like, oh, I have to have it on a data wall. And then oh, all the kids have to have, you know, every, like a data folder. And yeah, every kid and it's like, oh, you know, Oh, that's good to the king. No state standards, I have to use a different curriculum, or different kind of tests and stuff that's like, oh, what do you want me? And I'm having to learn that the pacing, and everything of everything. It's like, Oh, this is this is fine. I'm having?

 

Collin  27:05

Well, it's hard to because like, you know, I talked to my, my principal, because I just talked to her a little bit about it. Because, you know, the whole thing is like, do the kids know what they're learning? Right? That's kind of the reason for that. Because in some classrooms, no, they don't do that. You know, but like, you know, the quest, they're always like, display this on the wall, like I don't like, That's lame, because my kids know, because I tell them all the time. Like we talk about it all the time. Right. So like, they're like, Well, how do you know the kids are doing? It's like, because I asked them, and then I talked to them about it. But it's so I, you know, that's exactly enough for you like, is that? What you? That's what I'm doing? Like all the time? Yeah, literally all the time. Because that's like, the whole point of a lot of the stuff I do. So, but she was kind of like, yeah, you're fine. So he was he was, we'll see how it goes. But there was that, you know, those first several days of panic of like, Oh, no, like, I did find this sweet new trial thing I'm going to try about erosion. So there is that I have developed a new plan, like an experiment thing,

 

Aaron  28:28

for

 

Collin  28:30

some time in there, to talk about erosion. So it's gonna be great. It's gonna be exciting. Yes, cool. Talking about me talking about like a version and its effects. So basically, I'm gonna do, I'm gonna get some little, little foil bread pans, you know, I'm going to cut one of the ends off and fill it with dirt. And then like, you know, pour water over it, and measure how much soil gets washed away. And like in into a collection pan, obviously, not into that not into the floor, hopefully. So we're gonna have that that's gonna be our baseline. And then I'm going to give them stuff like random things and say, can you make it erode less using one of these materials go and then talk about when we talk about erosion and stuff like that, how you can slow down and everything so I think that'd be fun to do. Could be cool to figure out where to put that, but I have it kind of thought out now. So we'll see. You have that'd be cool because we can like we can actually like collect the soil and like measure how much was washed out you know? So, but either way it or put it in The cylinder or something, just whatever is easier to see if they slow down from the baseline or not. So I think it'd be cool. It's like something fun. They like the kind of stuff, like a challenge, right, present to him as a challenge. And like,

 

30:12

yeah,

 

30:13

I mean, so.

 

Collin  30:16

Yeah, I mean, and I think the fact that, again, you're leaving it open ended, allows you to really play with different possibilities and allow for people to not have all the same illusion. And that's something that Yeah, we're working with. Lillian and no, right now we have this big box of 27 experiments or whatever. And we're like, what are we supposed to get? What are we supposed to get? My answer is, well, we're gonna get what we get. And we're gonna Yeah, my. My kids really hate that when I tell them that, right. Cuz you know that? It's hard, because like, a lot of times before they've had to, you know, they're used to having an answer. Yeah. Right. one singular answer. And in some of the stuff that I tried to do, it's like, you know, Mike,

 

Aaron  31:17

what do you think? I don't know, you know, you know,

 

Collin  31:21

I tried to do, and they really get mad at me even in like a presentation. You know, like, he's just good. Like, I don't know,

 

31:28

does it? Do you think it's good? Do you have all the stuff on the rubric? Did you? I don't know, we'll find out when you present it done. But like,

 

Collin  31:41

they really don't like that sometimes, you know? No, no, or they get grumpy with me? Or they do I begin, I would like, or no, ask me something of like, what is this? Or what's this supposed to be? What you know, what does that mean? It most of the time, I will say, what do you think? Or what do you because, like I may know, or I may not know, or I may think about it, or I want to start genuinely trying to have a conversation with them about that. And they get frustrated. But if you put it back to them on that, like that, but I think that's really, really important. And I think for me, too, it's a lot of I need to be very careful of speaking first, in a lot of those situations, because I don't want to be the one who that the the idea or the tone, or the direction of where we're going with this adventure of, you know, wherever we are going down. Whether it's complete was wrong or not, of just talking out their thoughts. And then at the end, doing the correction, because I know I can try, I have a tendency to immediately say, Oh, no, well, it's this. And this is how it works. And this is what's good together. And this is what's good. Yeah. Right. And packing mistake, no. What do you think happens whenever we're going to add the yellow food dye? Talk about it, you know, and, yeah, yeah, they get frustrated sometimes, but it's good. I mean, obviously, like, I will help them I will steer some of them for sure. When they get like, super mega stuck, like, always buy what you know. And I also make sure to tell him when we do these things, like, you know, any, anytime we do those are big, our big, like building making things, you know, that whether or not it works is irrelevant. Right? I'm not grading you on if it works. Right. So 0% of the grade is Did it work? Like? Did you follow the steps and, like, apply these things? Yeah. And do that. That's what I care about. Right? And were you a good partner, if it's a partner one, because that's a big one. But like, you know, it's like, I don't care if it works or not, that's not like we over the air pressure when we do the air pressure thing. And like they I give them a list, and they have to try to figure it out. And they have to explain how it works and everything. Like, I don't care if your demonstration like doesn't work, right? Because sometimes something gets messed up and it doesn't, you know, like the app. I don't care. I don't care if it doesn't work. I care if you could tell me what we're talking about. Can you tell me why this demonstration works? Can you tell me like all this stuff? That's what I want to know. I don't care if it's right. I don't care. I'm working on just a point. I think especially for things like science or whatever, are you doing an experiment, there's so many things that go into that like what we're doing right now. It's mostly a lot of things that are going to make crystals or make precipitate precipitates or whatever. And so much of that is dependent on the quality of the process. In the jar or how the hell yeah. And all the stuff and like, we can follow all these directions to a tee, whether it works or not. Who knows? Yeah, well and, and really like, like the other goal for me, at least in my classroom is like, I want like, by not focusing so much on like the right answer and like by not, I'm really hoping that we're building like, this is a safe environment currently, you can mess up. I don't care. Right? It's, it's a it's a positive environment to be in. That's my goal, you know? Because that's why it's home on time, because I'll be like, well, I don't know. Like, of course you don't. We literally just learned about this. Why would you know this right now? That's fine. Don't worry, I don't care. Like, hopefully, it's making it a positive place where you want to be giving kids a positive, like, impact in a school environment. And then hopefully, specifically about this subject, you know, like, Oh, I don't hate this after all, you know, because a lot people like, I hate science, like, haha, how about now though? Like, well, yeah, good point, like making it safe to fail. Cuz it's like, I want you to feel because you, right, there's no judgement, it's not. I love that point of like, it's not graded on the result, grade on the process and how you handled it, everything else, everything else is thrown in for the grade, except whether it turned blue or pink, I don't care. I really want to know. Like, what you thought about the process and how you understood what we were doing, and how you communicated that. And it's okay to not get the result that I really don't think that that's prevalent enough, even in adult societies. I was definitely not having having places that it's safe. And it's okay to fail in certain areas. Because I know, it feels like every moment can be this, like, this is it, there's nothing, I can't I can't try anything, I can't do anything, I can experiment with anything, I can't change anything. Because if I fail, it's all gonna blow up. And whether that's internal or external feelings that we have about ourselves, like, there's not that we don't have that in any other world, for most of the time where we are, when we are proud. Yeah, you know, and I brought that up in one of our meeting, because again, I'm in the district, like, building leadership team somehow, and how that happened. But I brought that up, you know, like, for the teachers to it was like, that should be the environment that we are working in as well. Like, it's fine. You know, like, Oh, no, like, you know, I've talked to the science department. And we kind of came to a conclusion last year, like, the elementary needs to be doing more science, that's what we know, that's happening. It's coming. But like, we want to be a resource and be like, Hey, guys, if you have science questions, you can ask any of us, it's, it's fine. Come on, down, come on, hang out, we'll, we'll talk about it. Like, you know, like, that's the kind of, we want to be like a helpful tool for everybody. And push that forward to make it better for everybody. Because it's hard, you know, your elementary teacher teach like fourth grade, you have to be an expert in like, every subject. And that's not reasonable. So if you need help with it, come ask a person that only teaches that thing. Yeah, not to develop, basically trying to develop professionally, right? That is a really hard space, to to enter in, knowing I don't know everything, and I might fail. But it's okay to do that in certain circumstances. Right? It's like, Why? To remind ourselves, this is why we're going through this process. It's like this, these different mindsets of like you have a beginner mindset, an expert mindset and too many times in our adult lives that we carry around expert mindset, I've got to be the expert everything or I'm the expert in my field, but we never go back and we've put on that beginner mindset hat and try and look at it from a different lens or try to learn it and knew. Yeah, you know, does he because I know if I was still teaching, like Language Arts in like, I would be like, I would go to some of these people and be like, uh, you're really good at this. I help. Like, tell me Give me some point. Like, you know what I mean? Like, there's some people are, like super good at that. And I would go to them, I'd be like, hey, how do you do this? You know, because that would be my big area weakness and I would need help with that. So hopefully I'm gonna try to do some of that. But my motto for this year I wrote down. I stole this from something else, but I'm gonna make a sign. progression, not perfection. Boom. What's up? going to put that right next to my assignment says these are one person seats. Stop sitting each other weirdos. That's interesting. I don't know, I don't know if they carry the same amount of weight in like implications for someone's life but they're both important from my room. Let me tell you what, Oh, I love it. I am I'm doing a I got I got elected to do a talk at a petsitter conference next year, when they were like, what, like, they want to know my topic. And I was like, talking about something you know, you're an expert on whatever. And I was like, sweet. I'll talk about imposter syndrome. It's something that is literally my expertise. Yeah, we talked about that the other day. It's kind of funny, so I'm going to steal that statement from you. You're welcome. But yeah, they're like, oh, what's something that you don't like body history ID or blah, blah, boom, got this. Got this. You can say that episode for everybody. adequacy. Listening, before you come. Listen to this talk. I need you to listen to this. It's all gonna make sense. Maybe? Probably not. But speaking of long and rambly, and there'll be a little bit that's relevant and then more rambling. Speaking of previous episodes, I recently had my third favorite ice cream Maverick when I say recently, I mean, just like nigh on an hour. Did you? Nice. I did. Megan Megan disappeared to the grocery store. A because we need food. And B she wanted to go because she went where our passengers be so that she could advertise everybody there. And I was like, I don't want anybody from town. Like I don't want to advertise people from Kansas. And she was like, you gotta go. It's good marketing. She went, and she worked. We paid tons of money for the job. We're gonna wear them always. Exactly. And she showed back up but she had like this peanut butter, crunch extra thing, and then a double strawberry. And I was like, oh my gosh. I gotta have this right now. It was so bad. It was so good. I was like, oh, man, just everything that I had. Flashing through my mind about me describing why I would do strawberries. My favorite thing back then I was like, This is so it's so refreshing. It's like, like, I'm gonna chat. I'm gonna have a scoop of this. And I'm going to have 17 scoops of this chocolate peanut butter thing. I'm going to feel like a ton of bricks on the couch. But it's gonna be great. It really anyway, I just had to pull it out. This is I think it's in danger of no longer being his third favorite ice cream and I think no, more than that. No, I think I then did go to my I did go to the other one. And I was like, Okay, this is far superior in every way. But I didn't enjoy it in the strawberry. Okay, okay. It brought to life of all the same things and I was thinking about like, okay, like really solidified like yeah oh solidify that. It didn't perfect down. It was just like, perfect. Good. It was just like, like it was a lovely. Also reminiscing about things of your past I've been listening to a lot of alternative pop or like, pop punk from the early 2000s. And then this led down a weird road that I really liked how I got there, but I started looking like movies of the early 2000s and one movie that I don't know if you guys have any memory of this because it like all came flooding back to me in a rush of horrible emotion. And was oh movie was the movie AI, artificial intelligence? Oh, yeah. I don't, I don't have very strong feelings about this movie. I'm very curious to see what I Okay, so this came out in 2001. First off, I didn't know this was supposed to be a Stanley Kubrick movie. But he gave it to he isn't passing away in 1999. But before he did, he gave it to Steven Spielberg to the towel. So it's this weird that's why a this movie feels weird. Oh, yeah, that's true. That's a very different theme to go from Kubrick to Spielberg Colbert. Right. So if you if you different stylized style, and if you if you take it, I don't know if that's how much remember. Do you guys remember this would be first. Do you remember this movie at all?

 

45:51

Yeah. Is this based on a space on a science fiction novel? To Yes.

 

Collin  45:58

Yes, loosely. Right, isn't it? Is it the short story super toys last all summer long by Brian Alden? Is the okay. Super toys last all summer long. I just remember that. Now, can we talk about for just a second how the book version of the titles is, like always superior.

 

46:20

Oh, right. And like every way, right? Do you know the book name of I think it's Blade Runner. You know the the the Philip K Dick. You know what the book title is for Blade Runner? Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?

 

46:36

How much better is that?

 

Collin  46:39

I think I think I really liked the book title because it is. What if you go into the movie and you think of the movie is going to be science fiction. None of it makes sense. That's pretty stupid. If you watch it as if it were a fairy tale. If it were in essence, the actual Pinocchio story that it is, right? Because that's, you know, there's the like, the Blue Fairy, and things like that. And he wants to be out. Yeah. Then it it makes a whole lot more sense. And a title called Super toys last all summer long. That's great title. Man, through and through really cool. So good. I, this movie. Just utter and total like, depressing, through and through. I cannot like if there's like ugly cry at the end. But like, all throughout, it's just, to me, it's just sad. It's just a full on. sad movie is about the AI boy who is programmed to love and be loved. And his parents dump him in the woods, because their other son who was in a coma comes back, and they don't want him anymore. And then he goes on this adventure of to find love and what it means to be loved. But he can only love and express love towards the mom at the beginning of the film, and the most depressing part of this entire movie. And then all these emotions came flooding back this big escape scene and he escapes the cops and blah, blah, and they get in a crash. And he plummets into the body of water. And he thinks he sees the Blue Fairy. And the Blue Fairy was a fairy tale that they told amongst these AI creatures that if you wish, you go find the Blue Fairy to become real. And so people would try this. He thinks he's found it's this blue flashing light thing above him. And he like, wishes flash praise to it for 2000 years, wishing to be real until his battery. And like, stuck in the water. With a little boy wishing to be real. Then he's resurrected by the new creations. And they say, you know, you can only get they said, What do you want? And he says, I want to love my mom. But I can be real. And they're like, well, we can't do that. and blah, blah. They find trickery, waving magic hands, they can bring his mother back for one day, and then never again. She does that. And they're laying in bed. And she says, I've loved you. I love you. I always have closes her eyes. She's never come back. He closes his eyes. We don't know what's gonna happen to him. And that's the movie. You're like. In the middle, there's like Jude Law who's like a gigolo, and like all this weird stuff going around, and oh, yeah, yeah, I think I've seen this movie exactly one time. So like, exactly what Chris Rock is in this as for the entire purpose of being a robot who was destroyed by being blasted through acid and into a massive plane propeller to be destroyed into center into a million pieces. There's like pool flesh is flesh world for humans to watch, yeah, to watch robots be destroyed and tear each other apart. And that's like a weird thing. And it's just the pre Roman. Right. I think for me, what's traumatizing about this was that it was from the eyes of the kid, right of Dave. David. David, I forget, I don't remember his first name. Yeah, I remember. Daily Joe Osmond. Right. But he's like, it's this entire world is the eyes of a child. And it's because I think it's because of that, it makes it all of these senses of emotion and feelings and whatever, like, really, really powerful and kind of, kind of hard to deal with. Because there's just this weird, there's just this innocence and like, total naivety, and if there's no story arc to David, because he's, he's, he's a robot. And so he is put into this world to love and be loved. Nothing in the interim changes that he, you know, he, after 2000 years, he's brought back up and he says, I want I want to love and be loved. Like, just like a child, right? Like, there's no single thought. And it just, oh, it's like soul crushing. I was like, I didn't even rewatch it. I just just all these memories came back to me and I was like, I can't even I can't even go back. I can't even think about that. It's just Oh, like, I can't even Oh, and anyway, I yeah. I don't don't watch this movie. It's dark. But I did like it. If you want to cry, I was like, no, yeah, press. But this was weird, because I remember watching this and I think I thought it was something out of like, expecting more of the like, questions about what it means the AI or can they love or blah, blah, instead of this weird thing? I just I know if you've had that movie of like, I don't know. Like, I don't want to try to ask if like, it wasn't what you expected. I think there's little to surface of or like, this movie of like, I can't even It's not that I hated it. It's just like, I can't even go through that process of watching it again. I don't know if you guys have to think about that one real hard, because I'm not really sure. I definitely know what that visceral response. I don't even really remember AI that.

 

Aaron  52:44

I remember when I was younger. And I remember like when it came out and like all the hype with it. And I remember watching it not really understanding it because I was so little and so young that it was just like the you know, because I remember like he had hit a teddy bear and robotic Teddy Bear, right?

 

Collin  53:03

Yes, Teddy. I don't. So the weird thing is, here's the here's the weird part is that

 

Aaron  53:08

this is the weird part. Right?

 

Collin  53:12

Teddy? He He's given Teddy to guide him throughout life because he's supposed to be a child. So Teddy is another AI programmed basically to be David's conscious conscience throughout this process of telling him what to do and what not to do. Because David doesn't know because he's only programmed do like one thing. And so it's an actual teddy bear that talks to him and guide him and voices his thing. Much like Japan. Oh, God, cricket. Sorry. No, sorry, Germany. Cricket. Yes. Much like Germany. I'm not too bad. Yeah, and there's weird anyway. Yeah, yeah, he has a teddy bear.

 

Aaron  53:58

So for me, I can't really say much because I was trying to explain the concept of the movie warriors of virtue to show me the other day talking about like movies, it's so cool to see the next Ninja Turtles and like what did I just watch? kind of went down the drain drain. So like I can't you know with that movie I can't like get like, emotionally attached because it was just like, was I watched? I've been trying to find it for like over two weeks, so I can't I have no had no luck. Um, but as far as films, that's why he can't ask your question while we're talking. pretty pleased.

 

Collin  54:46

What are their films? I guess I'm asking like, do you have these films like you've watched once? Or when you think about you do have these kind of visceral response to them where it's just like, you can't even I feel like I'm kind of intrigued to watch this movie again. But I just don't think I can do that because of the kind of response that I have thinking about the emotions that go on with it. I don't know. Okay, so that's the movie that

 

Aaron  55:14

that's coming to my brain. It's is it The Imitation Game? With?

 

Collin  55:22

Oh,

 

Aaron  55:23

what's his name? famous British actor. imdb. Damn, what a what a Google. IMDb is taking forever. In creation. Yeah, the imitation of Benedict Cumberbatch. There we go. So, I watched this film, basically, you know, it's about the scientists that tried to crack the Enigma code from the Germans during World War Two. Alan Turing. Yeah. And it's like, it's like, super fascinating. It's like, oh, man, he finds love. And he's like, trying to go through this. And like, all, you know, the guy that was his like, enemy is like, not as in anymore, because they're like, brands trying to come up with the same goal. And then it's just like, so. So there's that part. And then it is just an emotion, you know, an emotional roller coaster. Because, you know, it during this time of British policies. I'm gay individuals, you know, it was illegal. And so like, he's been battling this, like the second enemy. You know, of, you know, kind of all of this and you're like, but we just, like, we just got through, like that part. Like, why? Why do you Why do you want to do this to me on this part, like, I just like, oh, he did it, they cracked the code. And then it's just like a whirlwind of like, Oh, yes. You know, here's, you know,

 

Collin  57:00

here's this.

 

Aaron  57:02

You know, he gets arrested, and he gets, you know, what does that board call again, think a bit, where it's, you know, typically castrated and kind of all this stuff. And it's like, all these things are done to him. And you're like, yo, my guy. I just, I was happy, like, five seconds ago. And then you bring this on me. And like, it is a great movie. There's like, incredible acting it because, you know, into Cumberbatch, but it just, there's like, I don't, I don't know if I can bring like not just like, emotionally bring myself to it. But it was like emotionally exhausting. at the tail end because like, I just can't, I just can't do it. It's a good movie. And I highly recommend it, but it is just like, Oh, I'm sad out. So. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

 

Collin  58:05

Yeah, I don't I don't know if I have. Yeah, I don't know if I have a movie that I can think of off top my head that is like that, for me. has that same level of like? Yeah. And, like, the AI like, this one. I think the real part of that game is like, because it's a child. And like, multiple times throughout the movie. He's like, begging and pleading, basically, for love, and like, solely fixated on this, and he can never get it or attain it. And like, I think that's part of it of just like, Oh my gosh, like that, that that kind of that gives me such a depressing feeling to even experience like granted in the movie, it's a robot, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and not real, but just like, oh, it just makes me Well, yeah, but I mean, that's, I think that's where the fact that it was handled by Spielberg becomes a problem. Because like, the reason that you do those things in a movie that's a robot, kind of like Blade Runner, right? Is you're talking about like this. It's like a bonus, like an existential question of like, if there was this, like AI, you know, robot in this situation, like, should you feel this way about it? Because Is it a real person? Is it just the robot like these are very like complicated, like questions that need to be handled slightly more carefully. And they're there if you want to think about them, but like, he's like that other kind of not always done the right way. Yeah, it's like it kind of like gets convoluted in there. Whereas these questions are like, you know, this is like Isaac Asimov wrote about this like a lot. And, you know, those other science fiction writers of that time, kind of that same thing. Like, really like deep thought process. So this one is shoehorning it into a Pinocchio allegory is a little bit million totally appropriate I guess but, but a part of it too is the premise of this is that David's creator is starting a company to create more David to basically be comfort children to parents who don't have kids or who have lost a child and want a child in their life. And so we know from his basic programming that this is his sole thing. He's meant to love somebody love a parent, and have that kind of bond and relationship with the mother and father. And so it's like, he's not capable of anything else. But each stage he's always looking for that searching for it and just be like, I don't anyway all that because I started to listen to motion city soundtrack and ami and other Wow. too. pay a high at a recommended it was a Let me tell you the name of this. The recommended album on load. Oh yeah, I had a 2000 alternative hit. And I had pop punk classic. And I was like, Yes, please. There you go. Boom. I guess I watched the movie not too long ago, like over the summer. I went on a very long, weird, like, spaghetti western kick.

 

Aaron  1:01:59

Right?

 

Collin  1:02:00

Don't ask, it's fine. Everything's fine. But like, I watched that movie called. I was just watching random movies, right? And so I somehow ended up watching a movie called Apache woman, which is not good by any stretch of the imagination. Right? Like, it's not a good movie. So like, just don't feel like you have to seek this one out. She's like, 1970 something. Six. Thanks, Google that 1976 and it's kind of like that. It's like, you know, it's very cliche, like a lot of spaghetti westerns are right. It's like, you know, army dude rescues Apache woman. From like, a thing, right? And then like, he doesn't really like her. And like, he can't understand her. And they go through all these like trials and tribulations and like the inhabitants. There's like, they're both like a die. Like, what? But what? Why? Yeah, this is garbage. Like, you took me on like, this whole thing. Like this whole, like emotional journey, the best you can in a spaghetti western film, obviously. But like, then you just like do that for like, no real reason. Okay, thanks, guys. Cuz it was like this whole thing. This guy like, he thought like, you know, like you do in western movie. Like, you think Native Americans are trash, right? And then you like, Oh, actually, this person is nice. And they're just like a normal person. And then they kind of like, fall. Yeah, they're like, Oh, she's actually just like a person and not an actual Savage. Wow. Look at this. And he goes on this like, kind of journey like that. And he like, realizes that he likes her and then all this stuff and like they wanted you know, he decides he's gonna leave the army and they're gonna run away and start a life together. And I didn't like the end happens. You like What? What? What? Well, I'm depressed now. Thanks a lot. A little let down. Yeah, they're like, build you up, build you up and then chalk the stool out from under you like, ah, dang it. I guess in in some regards. It's similar. That same feeling of like, Oh, it was going so well. And then, like, they just like, I feel sad. And I feel down and I don't want to watch this movie anymore. Yeah. I smell I smell a sci fi movie challenge coming up where we had to find a good one for column two. Yes. Yeah. I like that, like genre. Um, this one was just it was the outset it was, I think it was even marketed as, as very sad sci fi, sci fi. Not It was not marketed as stamp SB and that totally changes. A lot of like, even the implications of what you're watching, though, like when you start realizing like, oh, there's like, kind of spacey like there's magic involved. Well, yeah, but you know, that's just like Steven Spielberg marketing probably like, Oh, it's a robot. Oh, excuse me. You're forgetting about Isaac Asimov. RUBIN to pronounce it nauseum. He's driving crazy. But you know, like, Oh, it's got a robot must be a sci fi done. Easy. genres are Stark and have no fluidity whatsoever?

 

1:05:55

Because he did.

 

Collin  1:06:00

He did mean, you can kind of tell the influence that this kind of put on him because in 2002, he did, but he did Minority Report. So me disappointing for other reasons. Like it's just kind of boring and not good. And but he's very. God, God. Anyway, um, but yes, it is kind of in that it's not in that same vein, where it's not as sci fi as Minority Report, but it kind of has all the same themes and undertones, but it's totally not lifelike. But if you just look Yeah, it looks like but it's not all good ops. Yes. Why would you say I would say Minority Report is definitely more in the traditional Spielberg wheelhouse. Right? When you think about Spielberg Movies You like that one? That would fit better? in like, his general style. Right? It's much more actually. It's a little bit thriller II it's well, it's trying to be anyway. And like, I remember I wouldn't watch a movie with names. That was just like a movie because we you know, we just go there's this movie. on right now. Let's watch it. Yeah. Right. And so we watch that I remember. And we both left the movie theater like, yeah. Okay. Like we started Springfield eight. I remember just walking outside, being like, Well, that was a movie, I guess.

 

1:07:50

Oh, man. I didn't mean to hijack this with my like, that's fine pair of like, that's the whole point of this show. Or even paying attention to literally what we do here. Everything's fine.

 

Collin  1:08:20

Well, I'll tell you before we go here, I'll tell you the thing I've been hijacked on this past this past week, is I have been I don't know how I fell into this rabbit hole. But I've been watching a lot of 80s wrestling. It's it's just the most hilarious that you've ever seen in your entire life. It's just, it's silly. No. I don't. It's great. It's just so silly. And ridiculous. It makes me giggle. So, yeah. How about talking about theater? Oh, yeah. It's like purest form. Right? Like, that's what it is. It's great. It's like, compared to like, modern day wrestling, like the wrestling in the 80s is not good. It all gets really bad. It's boring, but like, the characters and these people are hysterical. I'm just scrolling through stuff in something right now. Like, in this era, you have whole Cogan which is like Oh, god, yes. To whole thing. right alongside? Andre the Giant. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. plus, plus, Macho Man Randy Savage. Bright, Dad's favorite dusty roads. Dirty dusty roads. American Dream Ric Flair is poking around in there. Right, you got later you have the Ultimate Warrior and his just like, special breed of insanity. Sometime you should listen to an Ultimate Warrior promo. It's just screaming. And he's like rambling about like spaceships and warriors. And like face paint, and you're like, What? What

 

1:10:23

are you talking about?

 

Collin  1:10:25

This is so crazy. Yeah, cuz like Ricky the dragon steamboat. Yeah, yeah, his name. I don't I can honestly say I wasn't ever. Oh my gosh, like, I don't think I've ever 30 Yeah, well, he wasn't, he was just at WrestleMania one I like Ted DiBiase the Million Dollar Man. This I can't feel like, I've obviously heard all of these names. I have never seen any of these people wrestling. Because, by the time, you know, in the in the 90s and early 2000 Yeah, they were still stars are different. Yeah. Well, they were just like, around right? You would like they would talk about them or you would like, see them then. You know, like, I mean, like that, as they were that that time, right? More like, great. Like, like, Ric Flair. Like he would show up for wrestling events sometimes as Ric Flair. But he would do that is still around. It's crazy. He's exactly right. You're like, oh, but okay. Yeah, sorry. I fell down that rabbit hole this week. And it's just it's just some of the funniest stuff like Jake the Snake, right, like ravishing Rick, rude. That dude is a whole guy's crazy man. Like they made me giggle this week. It's been really well, maybe, maybe I'll watch that and and bring me out of my disappear. But on my Iron Sheik. Right. Right there. It's hilarious. Especially like, I have no, it's just so funny. Like some of the things they do. Like the end wasn't Nikolai volkoff. Right? He was like a bad guy. And before every match, he would just come out and seeing the Soviet national anthem to get booze from the crowd. And it works so well. Everyone just hates him. Communism. You know if that's what you want. 96 is the Soviet national anthem. Obviously, buddy. Really? But Oh, man. It's just so hilarious. characters. Yeah. brawling. They were wrestling with crap. But the character it was it was bad. right at you. I watched some like some highlights of some of the batches you like, arm drag. Arm drag. Punch. sleeper hold. Yeah. More sleeper hold. Whoo. Punch. Like that's it. That's it, right? It's like, right there. Anything intense? might have to do with the fact that all these dudes are like, gigantic. Right? Well, that's true. Like macho, dropping the elbow off the top rope is like the most exciting thing. Right? That's all because they can't do anything else because they're slow. Yeah. Yeah, that style didn't come in till like a week later. You know? But not that this is a wrestling podcast now. But like, you know, when WCW started bringing in those like Mexican wrestlers, and they, I mean, if you watch, like, early 90s WCW when they start bringing in wrestlers like Ray Mysterio, Jr, like psychosis, and like all these guys, and some of the dude from Japan like Ultimate Dragon and juice and thunder lager, you've watched them wrestle and the crowd is literally going, whoa, what are you doing? Yeah, like they're not making any noise. They're just staring like, What?

 

Aaron  1:13:58

What is this?

 

Collin  1:14:02

How is this possible? Because they're doing flips, they're like, flinging around and off each other. And it's acrobatics at that point. And it's, it's so fast, right? Like, you know, pretty much. There's one spot in one of those, like, Ray Mysterio he's up on the top rope and he does like a hurricanrana to this dude to the outside of the rain, you know? And everyone's just going What? literally never seen anything like Yeah. You want some giggles watch some 80s wrestling. Love it. Okay, well, that's the that'll be our branch off. Sweet okay. Okay, so we have homework did we assign homework was it was it? Was it not one I can't remember.

 

1:15:10

I mean, you don't have to watch it wrestling. That's all the forms that upon you. If you do want to find a sci fi movie for Conan to watch, if we have time for that we could do that. Yeah, sci fi movie challenge anyone? Aaron? Yeah. Okay. All right. My sci fi movie. I think we should all just watch sci fi movie and report.

 

Collin  1:15:36

The broad genre. So your choice of sci fi movie was a sideline movie. We'll talk about it. Okay. Yeah. Sounds good. Well, hey, love you. All right. Have you guys