Wherefore art thou Aaron? Are you decorated for Fall yet? Brandon is gluing things. Collin has ethernet woes. We talk buying psychology and what IS a scarecrow? Turns out, it depends on your definition of ‘is’. Brandon is quickly becoming the Missouri Manx, while Collin is having some town pride.

Fall decorations
Repairing decorations
Janky glue jig
Washing pumpkins?
Ethernet routing and internet speeds
Wiggle the little thing
Buying psychology
What makes a good scarecrow?
Scareception!
Biking is going well!
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Collin, Brandon

Collin 00:04

Welcome to Oh brother, a podcast three brothers trying to figure it all out with your host Brandon, Collin and Aaron on this week's show janky glue jig how many fall decorations and pumpkins do you have in your house right now?

Brandon 00:26

I mean like several

Collin 00:31

okay

Brandon 00:34

outside that way Susan did the outside the door decoration thing today we fixed a little sign thing that we had oh yeah you broke so we glued it back together oh no we used to excite well we I forgot it like fell over at some point it has like this arm thing that points out to the side you know that's like a science hang on you know? Yeah. And at some point in being outside in its life It fell over and broke. Oh no, I think it was like two years ago because last year we were gonna get it out and fix it and then like got busy and forgot. So yesterday we dug it out and rigged up the world janky is the glue jig and glued it back together and then if it needs it, we're gonna slam some nails through there just because it's already rustic looking right? So it doesn't even matter. Basically, we on one of them okay, and it sees your picture this in your mind you ready, I'm terrified on one of the plastic totes in the in the garage. We laid the sign down underneath the sign. I wanted up a plastic bag and then set a box of drill bits under that to support it from the bottom. Uh huh. And then on the top to hold it steady. We set a small toolbox just to act as the clamp receipt because I don't own any clamps and so this was how we engineered our sign to be glued back together.

Collin 02:16

It's all coming together.

Brandon 02:18

Yeah, she has decorated the fall shelf we're not too heavy on the pumpkins right as a couple like small pumpkin decorations Sure. There's the fall blankets have been brought out. Right so you know we're in they're officially officially embracing there's now a mom and a pumpkin outside like a real pumpkin. haha oh,

Collin 02:37

do you? Do you wash your pumpkins prior to setting them out? Because I hear this is a thing that people do. Now

Brandon 02:44

I we did not. Because if you're going for the rustic fall Look, why would you wash a pumpkin? Yes. Right? Because yes. of the earth. It's folly. It's like red sticky. It's dirty.

03:00

Huh?

Brandon 03:01

This makes sense. I can understand why you would like want to wash a jack o' lantern pumpkin

03:06

right? To get it nice and cleaned off before you carve it. But

Brandon 03:13

no, especially because this pumpkin is sitting out on the porch. There's no need to wash it because it's just gonna still sit outside. Mm hmm. Right? was like little white pumpkin whatever those like Gordy things are a little wonky thing it's got one of those companions out there so it's a whole thing it's a whole thing It's very nice. So yeah,

03:35

we're following it up over here. Love it good times.

Brandon 03:40

I'm assuming you are as well as why you started with that.

Collin 03:46

Oh actually, actually, No, we haven't set out our decorations at all. I was just curious how

Brandon 03:53

Okay, I know I know if I'm behind

Collin 03:56

we have a brand new pumpkin patch north of town that we've need to visit

04:02

Oh yes. It's

Collin 04:04

called Little Bear pumpkin patch them is.

Brandon 04:08

That's a weird baseball name. For the one part of Missouri that doesn't have bears currently.

Collin 04:17

You're down by the lake. Oh, sorry. I said Little Bear. Big Bear pumpkin pie. Oh

Brandon 04:22

man. Don't sell them short like that. Not even like it can get grumpy

Collin 04:29

with you. But they just had their big they just had their big grand opening this past weekend. And apparently it was a blast. I did convince I did convince the owner that they needed to make it pet friendly. So that was a win. Where Hey, very nice. Hey, and that said pumpkins weekend event. And then and then we didn't go but

Brandon 04:53

wow man. Sorry Coby getting denied.

Collin 04:58

We went to a pumpkin patch. When we lived in Lubbock we have a picture of him from and years ago so it's fine.

Brandon 05:05

I was gonna say that's a long time ago. He probably liked it and wants to go more wants to have more pumpkin action he is fine you're denying the poor long dog

Collin 05:15

that he just wants to sleep these days

Brandon 05:19

I was gonna say he probably doesn't want to go at all he's probably like oh Holmes good thanks I'm fine yeah yeah, it's where my pillow let's go

05:27

fine with it. Yeah Yeah

Collin 05:33

Yeah, no, we haven't said our decorations would have been been very slacking but we are we are coming together slowly.

Brandon 05:44

What are your clients gonna think when they come to your house? And there's no fall decorations they're gonna be like

05:51

Nope, sorry.

Collin 05:52

Yeah exactly. festive people I know can't bear to leave my dog with them they're not going to be festive and celebrate they're not going to love my dog at all

06:06

still pumpkins in their house

06:09

very touchy people so I deal with the guests

Collin 06:17

Oh, boy, no, no the the actual

06:22

actual

Collin 06:24

problem that I've tried to solve is I am sitting on a on the second story my internet enters into my house in the basement and that's a house for to come in place for it to come in. And so that's where like the router and I've moved the Wi Fi stuff down there because we've got little things linked together to create a network or whatever,

Brandon 06:47

but like little plugging anything yeah. And it works pretty well.

Collin 06:53

I'm just needing more consistent speeds so I am trying to figure out how exactly I'm going to run an ethernet cable from my basement to my second story

07:08

well

Brandon 07:10

I know where my box of drill bits is located so yeah, I mean how are you going to get to the floor drill bit right not drilling our drill through Yeah, this is my the school I work at this is their solution they just like run it through the ceiling and then just drop it down randomly. So there's just these blue cables just like hanging from a wall somewhere like nope, your computer has to go there sorry. I have some Forstner bits there don't get you a nice little hole boom. Perfect.

Collin 07:42

I have in in so I have the option of either I mean I'm going to have to run an ethernet cable either way, but I do have a cable coming into my office but it wasn't connected to anything. So I kind of want to see if I can get Megan or the kids to like jiggle it back and forth if I can see where it comes into to the basement. Yeah, I can tie it onto an ethernet cable and just pull it up through the wall oh that's true that is my that's kind of my my my thinking right now but there's a plan I need to yeah it's a plan I need to figure out like which cable it is and other stuff so anyway

Brandon 08:37

like do you need that cable for it?

Collin 08:41

Like it's there for a reason or they had it in there for a reason and I don't want to that's the I don't want to make a change to the house that again in the grand scheme of things it's not really that big of a change because you if you run a cable once you can fish the cable again but you want to make a change that's gonna make it like less appealing or like we don't whenever we go to sell it or whatever yeah well this is how he did it but that was the only the exact way that he wanted or they needed it but that doesn't fit your needs anyway trended leave it generic enough but whatever that's what goes through my brain. I mean that's admirable but also like

Brandon 09:28

I feel like that's fine like who's not gonna I mean that's that's an improvement right? Like Yeah, it's an Ethernet Ethernet cable boom Yeah, now you can have internet stable stability. Upstairs array. Yeah, yeah, cuz I was mad It was really bad this past week.

Collin 09:56

With with internet speed, to the point where I was Like, what? What speeds am I paying for? Because I'm not getting like any, like, none? like none, none speeds, all the none. And I called and they're like yeah, no, you're paying for pretty good speed. And why? Yeah, sounds like well what's going on so I didn't go like that was even after I had like reset everything and like reset the network and did all that crap and so I had them I was like, Can you just like, flash it real quick? And it seems to be working okay since they've done that, but I'm still like, yeah I need need to do something about this

Brandon 10:40

so we'll see. Weird hopefully, it'll get if it is the worst like it's this is so annoying, like ours as well. We all know that ours is just not good. Like, you know. So it'll be fine. I went out in wiggled a little thing. So like, I think it was sort of falling down a little bit, our little antenna deal that are in it comes through. And so like, I wiggled it an extra prop to back up. Uh huh. And it seems to be working better. Knock Knock on wood, since I did that. So. Yes. Perfect.

Collin 11:28

Do you guys get it Satellite Internet? For

Brandon 11:32

SORNA? Yeah, it's like high speed wireless.

Collin 11:36

So do you have that little receiver looking thing? Yeah, outside.

Brandon 11:42

Cool. And then it comes to the wall to the router? Yeah, or Wi Fi router? Okay, but like, we have the word cheap about it. Right? And so the season has been with this company for like, 1000 years. And they used to be like, here locally, well, they, they sold the business, like, a long time ago to this other company. So now they're in, like, Knicks or something. And they kept us at the same rate, because we had been and we didn't upgrade anything. Yeah. So like, potentially, we could be paying, like, we could like upgrade and get like better stuff. But I don't really know how much more it would cost us to do that. So but then again, like they've slowly raised the price, you know, and it's still like, pretty janky. So. So it's kind of like, well, we don't really know what to do, because like other internet providers here are like notoriously bad. You know? Sure. And so we have internet that kind of works. And so we're kind of afraid of like, taking that step to going somewhere else. Because once you do that, you can't go back to the old one that you had before. Right? It's Yeah, it's not a thing you can do. So if you accidentally get something worse, then you're really stuck. So we kind of don't know what to do with that all the time.

Collin 13:18

No, I yeah, Internet Options are awful. And because we got an internet price, but then it wasn't one of those introductory prices and so over the that's the other problem over the last three years, it has increased at set increments. So now we are paying full price for it. And I'm like, I'm not alright like that. And so I try and find different internet providers. But literally none of them are cheaper or they're cheaper but the speeds are abysmal. So I'm like well I don't want a quality product for cheap just because it's cheaper. But also I don't like what I'm paying now and so then they do the stupid thing where they're like oh you can save money on your aironet by buying a $20 a month TV package I don't want the TVs and like I don't want to package them I'm not saving any money they're like oh but you're saving money on the internet and like but I'm not

Brandon 14:18

yeah right like it's just been Oh no, you don't understand how this works

Collin 14:22

right like no your internet cheaper and I'm like I'm not paying for TV now why I don't need to you're making my bill go up regardless

Brandon 14:34

Yeah, I never understand that and I can't It drives me crazy and people fall for that stuff you know like oh like that like oh well you can buy this thing you don't need and it will make your bill less like for the other thing like gap I'm spending more because I'm buying this right? That's just how it works. Yeah, like, no, like those that stinking I got in a fight with my friend one time not a fight but like an argument. About one was like, online like coupon things, you know? And she was like buying something and she was like, Yeah, but look how much money I saved by. You weren't going to buy that before. Yeah. So technically, you have lost $27 you didn't save anything, because you were not going to buy that thing in the first place. So like, just because it's cheaper, and you bought it doesn't mean you're saving money. Because if you didn't buy it, you you would have your money. Right? You see the problem that we get, you get this like, oh, but I'm saving money because it's a discount price. Like, no, you're spending money because you bought a thing that you really weren't going to buy in the first place that you saw the price was discounted. Now you've now you feel that you've saved but you haven't.

Collin 16:06

Yeah, no, it's totally that that buying psychology of the perceived value and trying to make the most out of it. And I I have never understood that at all. of of the all but what you know, it's, it's, you're missing out on this. It's a missed opportunity. And

16:27

I'm like, Yeah, exactly. It's

Collin 16:28

an opportunity cost. That's $20 less that I have in my back pocket has been something that I actually need. versus just buying because it's on sale. Like that's not i'm not saving any money.

Brandon 16:41

Yes, it's very strange, and I get confused. And then people tell me I'm a moron. Like no, idiot. I'm saving money. Okay, whenever you say button. Yes, you're saving money. Good job. Whatever. Yeah. Now if you

Collin 17:01

are if you have stuff that you are actually going to buy, so there's a difference there if you're like, oh, wah, it's kind of like the saying like, I buy toilet paper every month. Well, if I get a coupon for toilet paper, I know them by next month. So buying it now at this price is actually a better deal or whatever, you know, like you can I can I understand that mindset? Well, yes, but this whole like, why didn't come in here to buy jeans, but they're 10% off so I'm gonna buy some jeans. Look how much money I saved. You're like, yeah,

Brandon 17:30

that. Yeah, that's different than if you were planning on buying jeans anyway.

17:34

Right?

Brandon 17:36

Or whatever you're gonna buy. Like that's different. I understand that. Because that's just like, oh, that's just smart shopping. Right? But the predatory nature of the other thing comes where you, it tricks you into think you're smart shopping. Gotcha.

17:50

Boom. Right? Tommy again.

Collin 17:58

Our city is having a scarecrow contest and I am very excited about this.

Brandon 18:03

Whoa. That's kind of a cool idea. Actually. I haven't thought about this. Like this. Ah, so eager thing. Good thing. You have fall decorations out so you can put a skip. Oh, wait.

Collin 18:15

Well, now I have no I have reason to I could win something true. What do you What? What do you what do you mean? me see. Doesn't say well, nevermind. Surely something. Something? I'm sure. No, I mission. Yeah.

18:32

I uh

Collin 18:35

Oh, that's cool. Oh, man. I they do a lot of things. They do things like that. Well, they'll have like the city's best garden. Or city's best decorate Christmas decorations. They do that a lot. And I just see that they put out a call for artists to decorate the new community center. So that's amazing. Oh, that's cool. Yeah. For artists for artwork to be cited at the new community center.

Brandon 19:04

So come and draw something. Wow, cool. And maybe it'll actually reflect the community. Not like our big, stinking silo that just has a eagle on it. Good job. Generic silo. Way to go. Current I'm not bitter about that. Still, everything's fine. But

Collin 19:26

I can tell it to you Really? You're really over that. Yeah. Totally over

Brandon 19:30

it. Yeah. Yeah, I drove by the other day. That's why I'm like, Oh, it's her girl. Why?

Collin 19:40

It's a reminder for you to advocate more, I think maybe, maybe, I don't know. Yeah,

Brandon 19:46

they didn't ask him but he didn't didn't ask me for sure. So

19:51

that's the problem. Oh, well. It's fine.

Brandon 20:01

Yeah. So I want to know what I wonder what makes a good scarecrow? Like I wonder what the judging criteria is for scarecrow like originality. Like how different does it look from the Wizard of Oz? Right like that's your first guess. What? Yeah,

Collin 20:19

that's a good point. Oh, yeah, originality versus like execution

Brandon 20:27

of of the idea

Collin 20:30

because there's the like, How well did they make a stormtrooper? Or not just that they made a storm? Yeah, how well is it? I don't know. I think that that does

Brandon 20:42

just a stormtrooper count or does it have to fit some sort of like, fall scarecrow? Is their name Yeah, that's my question. Like what counts as a scarecrow? Because you could just put like a mannequin in your front yard right Oh no, I

Collin 21:03

think you I think you have to I think you have to scarecrow is what it's made of straw and kind of propped up I don't know like definitionally when I think scarecrow

Brandon 21:14

Is it is it though is that like their straw involved a universally accepted definition

Collin 21:20

is that okay? What else are you going to put in a scarecrow?

Brandon 21:25

I don't know that's why I asked you like what

21:27

what is it

Brandon 21:30

so this this if I google define Scarecrow, which by the way protip all my Google friends out there when you are wanting to know a word type of define before it and you get the definition right there. All this says is an object made to resemble a human figure tariffs set up to scare birds away from a field where crops are growing.

Collin 21:53

Brandon 21:54

one says no straw, right?

Collin 21:57

I know you can't because it's just if you but in the end Okay. Let's see says no intercessor Great. Okay, so there's the definition there's the spirit of the term

22:10

scarecrow

Brandon 22:13

has that because this this picture right here I'm looking at is just a sweatsuit on a pole

22:23

right so it's stuffed at all

Brandon 22:24

No it's not stuffed at all. It just has like clothing on a pole really quick is it is a bit creepy looking right? Um Yeah, so a scarecrow is a according to Wikipedia, is scarecrows a decoy or mannequin often in the shape of human humanoid scarecrows are usually dressed in old clothes and placed in the fields to discourage birds from disturbing and feeding on recently cast seed and growing crops.

Collin 22:55

So So I guess technically sure you could just throw out a mannequin and

Brandon 23:07

and make it work

Collin 23:08

but I don't think that really captures the spirit of like

Brandon 23:12

fall right okay, that's what I wanted to know that's what I want to know in the criteria. So like, how folly does it have to be does it like, stereotypical so scarecrows that are not winning the originality contest? jeans or overalls? flannel shirt. floppy hat

23:36

yes

Collin 23:37

yeah not not original not not going to be original.

Brandon 23:41

Yes, yeah. So that is like and then stuffed with a straw would we that would we say that is like a stereotypical scarecrow

Collin 23:51

yes when that I think when most people conjure up their mind of a scarecrow say envision a scarecrow or picture scarecrow that's what what they would they would they would have come to mind I think you can have better and worse executions of that right have a very well done one and poorly done stereotypical scarecrow but yes, that would be a stereotypical sticker on my brain. Okay,

24:16

so what what do you

Brandon 24:17

add to this kick? I'm just trying to help you plan your winning decor here. What do you add to the Scarecrow to make it stand out? Well, I mean,

Collin 24:29

I think I think then, if that stereotypical that's like non original, you kind of have to go with like, I guess your I guess your your your your stuffing, you're basically creating a mannequin stuffed with straw. At that point. I guess it to me, it's the straw that really binds This is what I'm learning about myself. Because you could do you could

Brandon 24:56

go Eagles straw because it's like, just to start over with straw straw sticking out randomly from the armor is that count as

Collin 25:04

my neck?

25:04

Yeah

Collin 25:05

yeah maybe maybe add a floppy hat to it so it's a farmer armor Stormtrooper Stormtrooper. Yeah for for us you know, we would probably do a scarecrow road person with a scarecrow dog. So do

Brandon 25:25

you wish you would put one of your T shirts on this guy?

Collin 25:31

You know what? Look No, no Should I pitch to a cop who pulled me over to you? I will be shamed into not putting my shirt on a scarecrow. I come at me.

25:49

Oh, man,

Collin 25:51

Megan's gonna really be having a lot of questions when I show up at the hay belt tomorrow.

Brandon 25:55

That's true. That is true. Potential tie in you could dress your scarecrow like a greaser I don't know.

Collin 26:07

I don't want cops outside my house

Brandon 26:09

guys all these old denim jacket right?

26:17

I yes.

Collin 26:18

I don't know apparently. Apparently what I learned today is that they just just look just look rough. You didn't even have to have the demat denim jackets. They just were were what they have been through ponyboy was wearing in chapter two. Oh, yeah.

Brandon 26:36

But hold off on that still wait just a little bit so you may find another member but I'm thinking I would be doing that I would probably go like lame mode. Right? And I because I have a giant nerd. I would make my scarecrow look like a scarecrow from Batman. Okay,

Collin 27:17

yeah, an actual character. Yeah.

Brandon 27:22

Again, not very original but, Eddie funnier. It's the Scarecrow of Scarecrow. scarecrow ception scab put like little red glowing eyes on there. Like, like

27:38

get it, buddy. Oh, yeah.

Collin 27:44

Yeah. Good time to do the fog machine for this all for the gas.

Brandon 27:48

Yeah. Oh, man. That'd be great.

Collin 27:52

Okay, well, I am looking forward to that presentation and go I mean, we're not we don't have a scarecrow contest. So, you know, time to start one. No, it's

Brandon 28:02

time to start one. That's true. Just I'll just do it and like not telling my neighbors like, Hey, guys. How are you doing? Oh, he didn't hear about the Scarecrow contest. It's totally real. And I didn't just make it up right now.

Collin 28:16

Judging today. Oh, man. Sorry. Oh. And then you need to walk next time you're out. riding your bag. Have your first place scarecrow contest t shirt on? Yeah, no, it was totally. Oh, yeah,

Brandon 28:31

true. Great. bike riding is pretty well feel good about doing right. On a Sunday afternoon, no cars anywhere. Beautiful. So if you get yelled at didn't get yelled at right? Always a bonus. No crazy hillbilly dude's yelling at me from their passing car. So that's exciting. So, yeah, I feel like it's gone. Right? I still

29:08

haven't been

Brandon 29:09

like my legs is still attached to my body. So that's good.

Collin 29:13

Good. Now Now that you've had that, it's been a couple months now. Do you find yourself writing more in fixed or flip flop?

Brandon 29:22

I haven't. I've never done the flip flop. I've only done a fixed one. Nice. Yeah. So I was a little nervous. I still don't know if I want to go like up a size of the rear cog for just like slight more, you know, ease of pedaling. I like just so far, just like on the roads like real close to my house. It hasn't been a problem. So I have considered that as an option. As going up cog size

Collin 29:53

in the back in the front and the back, one in the back so you can get a good good track race gear ratio, and I

Brandon 30:00

Yeah, no, I'm not going for like giant. Right? We're not we're not near anywhere near your fitness level for like, massive front chainring. Right, like 15 back to none of that, like, some of those track gear ratios are terrifyingly huge, right when you look at it like that. Yeah, no. Okay. I've been toying with the idea of going up a size. I don't know if that's if I know if I want to do that yet or not. And how necessary it is. Because I've been toying with the idea of different handlebar setups, right. So but yeah, around peeking around, because right now it's just the riser bar. Which is cool, but like, not a lot of other hand position options. You know, you got one. Yeah. Right. So like, for kind of, you know, moving around and stretching out a little bit, can't really do that. So I've been trying to look at different options for what to do, like Diego, like compact drop bar, or do you go

31:18

like curveball bullhorn

Brandon 31:19

like pursuit bar? Yeah. Right.

Collin 31:24

Oh, man. I, yeah, I like drops. Because you do have like, two or three different positions for your hand that you can kind of rotate you. And you don't? I don't know. I guess you can feel like whichever one you'd like with your back because the bowl, you're going to be stretched forward. Yeah. Not too

Brandon 31:48

much. Because they're not very long. No, right. No, they're not there. So it's not like a like a like a try bar. Right. Not like

Collin 31:58

I will be laying flat. Yeah, I mean, he's touching

Brandon 32:02

other notes. Try bar. No, just kidding not.

Collin 32:06

I'll just go. I'll just go take that off, I guess. Yeah, yeah. But the, you know, the down with the drops is that you get really compact. You're really small. Right? So you've got to ask them, which is not comfortable to write. I don't know. I enjoy writing in dropped. Not for long stretches. But it is fun when you go down hills. Yeah. When you're really like, Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna put the gas down for a little bit and be like, yeah,

Brandon 32:36

I mean, that's true. So that's what I've tried. But I'm trying to think to like, not so here's the here's the quandary, right? Because on a normal road bike, you have dropped bars. Yeah. But you ride out most of the time you ride on the hoods? Yeah. Right. No hoods. on my bike. Huh? Hmm. Right. So it would just be straight up bar. Yeah, that is right now I have a I only have a front brake. And it's just like a BMX brake lever. Yeah. Which I might need to upgrade that too because they're a little bit like not the best brakes in the world. So that's the other upgrade path we're going to investigate is better braking solutions brought to you by

Collin 33:27

you just does it just have the back brake or the front brake front just right, right. That's right. Okay. Yeah, cuz i know i know. Some will put what on the back. But that they typically do come on just stuff, right?

Brandon 33:38

Yeah. Basically pointless to have it on the back because like, your feet Yeah. We just pedal slower and it's like, oh, stopping resistances for that, like quick stop. Right? But like,

Collin 33:50

we've got everything locked. Yeah. So in that case, you're right bowls would that's

Brandon 33:56

why I was thinking like a short ball because it goes it's flat on the top and then it kind of just goes forwards and kicks up just a little bit. Cuz they're not like very long.

Collin 34:05

No, so

Brandon 34:07

that is it sort

34:08

of mimics the hood position.

Collin 34:11

Yeah, actually, you can actually mess with I think on a lot of those the angle that they are so you can actually bring the bolt the,

Brandon 34:21

you can tip the bar up just a little bit or just like so you

Collin 34:25

don't have to be totally flat out. And

Brandon 34:27

yeah, and and it's not there. Like the light bulb again. Apparently I learned that they're like 700 different shape of bullhorn bar. That's why but the basic one is the one where it's flat and then it goes straight forward. There is also like a track bull horn bar that like, I guess some like triathalon bikes have this are like Time Trial bikes. The bull bar goes, it goes out and then it goes down. And then it goes forward and then it kicks up, up. So it's actually like sink down into it's really weird like

35:05

that looks

Brandon 35:06

not what I want currently It looks like a very like but like hyper aggressive like track that's the one that they've had like track bikes where they have like that bar it's like that really like angles down and then they have the try bar looking thing on the top when that like the real long pursuit thing you know

Collin 35:26

yeah

Brandon 35:29

thanks that's not that's not what I want

Collin 35:32

no that would not be very comfortable yeah I think just the standard one with a little bit different angle on it you know angle it if you do really well plus style points

Brandon 35:42

this proves that points right always important. Plus the other thing is you can get a set for like not very much money right? So worst case scenario

35:56

take it back off

Brandon 35:57

again. So just try it out for a while and see if it's good or not that's kind of what I was thinking right? It might be kind of just fun to try something different like that. Yeah, that's not an option you get other places so

Collin 36:15

now it'd be worth it to like totally just to try yeah I don't know where you're looking at supply or where you're getting I was

Brandon 36:25

just looking randomly on the Internet at random places I haven't really narrowed down anything

Collin 36:30

I always like checking out bike nashbar I don't know if you stumble across them yeah, I think I lived there for something I've got some pretty you know they're they're always have sales and stuff and they have some decent brands and they've got a lot of I don't see a lot of like generic brands and they're their own they have their own in house bike nashbar brand is actually pretty good. I got several like lights and things like that from them that really weren't that bad.

Brandon 36:55

Oh yeah, that's another thing that I need to get eventually things like that like those little ancillary like rear light would be super good idea probably right like yeah,

Collin 37:03

go with rechargeable ones. No, yeah, definitely. Oh yeah. No, no, no, no, no don't do don't do the battery powered ones. The rechargeable ones are the way to go. The technology is so good now that you Yeah, you'll be up good

37:21

yeah,

Brandon 37:22

that's what definitely Oh, thinking about that and then later on like, I don't know what else would be on the list for like, oh, maybe? Oh, yeah. The other thing that like in the future like right now because it's doing okay, right now is like Well, number one, this I want, like dream I want where the stupid to bolt seat postings because like it's super annoying to address your seat whenever there's like, whenever there's just the one bolt and you're like, you're like, Oh, I got to the right spot that tips down. I'll just be like,

Collin 37:52

wait, so wait, what are you adjusting?

Brandon 37:55

Don't you adjust your seat? Yeah, right. They have they do make seat posts where there's a separate bolt for the forward and backward and the angle? Yes. So dream setup. I need one of those because it's just, it's just annoying. You're like, I need to scoot my seat back just a little bit. And then like the angle goes black. Okay, there. But other than that, like pedals, right. That's the other question. Hmm. Because I have toe clip action. Which is not as weird as I thought it was going to be with the cages. Yeah. Yeah. It's kind of cool. It's it's very odd. It's still feels weird. Because I was so used to when I was younger writing like BMX and mountain bike, where the pedal is like, in the arch of your foot. Mm hmm. You know, so that muscle memory is like, deeply ingrained in my body. Yes. And so whenever the pedal is just so far forward on my foot, it feels weird sometimes still, like, it just feels like I'm pedaling like odd. Yeah, like my foot wants to be farther forward, but I know it's now where it really needs to go.

Collin 39:15

Got to have it right underneath the ball of your feet is where all your pressure is headed. Yeah, it feels weird to. Yeah, to keep your foot at the proper angle as you're pedaling. Yeah. But I will say that if you ever decide to go to clips, that that is absolutely perfect because you're already you're training your body for that. I did not do the the cages I just went straight from flats to pedals. And that took me a while to clips because I was like, because especially when you're trying to just get used to putting your getting into the clips. My brain was oh, I have to put on the arch or whatever. I got to do it further. Oh, yeah. Not in the front. Yeah. And so I would just sit there on the takeoff. Just to fly Wondering for like 100 feet being like, Where are they? But after a while, yeah, that becomes second nature for sure.

Brandon 40:11

Yes. So it's still it's still like mechanically my body still sometimes, like why are you doing that? Yeah, no. Yeah, no, that's weird. I didn't realize that I had that muscle memory. Like that my foot want it to be somewhere else. Yeah. From my mountain bike, like, ages ago. But they do like the only thing about like, I kind of like it because you can just wear whatever shoes and it's fine. You know? You feel like it's kind of the cages that I have or not like metal side or it's like, you kind of get out like super stiff, you know what I mean? So I don't know if you you know, we're not talking like, power max or anything like that nonsense, but it probably could be more efficient, you know, down route, but yeah, just like, just hold your foot still.

41:09

It's not like, you know what I mean? So,

Brandon 41:13

but right now they're fine. They're doing okay. I feel pretty good. I still I feel like my ankles are real stiff all the time. Which is probably not good. Um, no. I just feel that way. It's actually true. But like, I could like my ankles are too stiff on that pedal. But then I think about it and then it starts to like, I overthink it and then I'm like, Oh wait, no, that hurts don't do that. Just try to like over rotate it. You're like no, no, that's that's wrong. Don't Don't think about it. It just kind of that's the struggle of having like, think about pedaling. No, no. Feel like yeah, this is what this is better.

Collin 41:53

Yeah, cuz you will. Yeah, you just have to kind of go with with what your body's telling you. And continue to play with seat position forward and back and stuff to see especially with your toes there that really does. You have to see like where your knees are and all that stuff like when you're Yeah, to make sure it's all in alignment. Yeah, I'll also add as far as small upgrades that make life easier I don't know if you have quick releases everywhere. But they they're really nice.

Brandon 42:26

Yeah, yeah, now they're just straight up bolt on. Right. Everything's bolted seat and wheels.

Collin 42:33

The one that I will say that I would really recommend is the seat you can actually get an X an aftermarket kit quick release for your seat. Usually I've seen those and those are pretty easy to do.

Brandon 42:49

Yeah, don't adjust the seat height to my I think I have the height okay, right now so that's not too bad but it's just annoying

43:00

but yes,

Brandon 43:02

I did. First time if I told you this the first time I wrote it like I put it all together and I was like okay, I got the wheel pretty tight right the back wheel and I went to go I went I gave like a real I was doing something I was going up to slight hill on the road and they gave like a real hard pedal stroke and the whole back wheel went back and just Yes, I was like whoops that was not what I want. Oh no. So it like I did not have back tighten tightened is tight so now it's like

43:44

okay, now we're good, man. That's

Collin 43:46

how you really forget how much pressure is being put on that one little place?

Brandon 43:53

Yeah, especially with a direct drive. Right? Just goes check. Ring chain cog you really when you stamp on it, it goes like

44:04

you get a real job. Yeah, so it's

Brandon 44:07

it's no power loss at all. So you stay up on that thing. It's like yeah, the wheel just buckled sideways like okay, so I'd done a bad I'm gonna fix this now. Yeah

Collin 44:23

it wasn't worse right? Like no

Brandon 44:24

yeah it just it just like I unscrewed it and like line it back up and it's fine. It doesn't Sure. So like I

Collin 44:30

was I was saying like, are you weren't like in a situation where you were like, Oh, I need to get a little pep to get out of this or get away from this. Oh, yeah. No,

Brandon 44:37

I was just like, on the street right in front of my house. Like, yeah, test driving the bike. Okay, so, yeah, I was trying. I was trying to get my chain tension, right. You know, cuz that's a weird thing to do. You have to deal with. Now. Yeah, I've never really had to deal with that, because I always had a rear derailleur. Yeah. You kind of have to just like, yeah, it's weird, you got to get it in there and then like, make sure it's like straight. Because you know, because you're kind of doing it one handed you're like yanking the wheel toward you, because of the dropouts or horizontal. So you have to like put your hand in between the seat post thing, right? That vertical seat pose, and the wheel and just kind of like pull it towards you. Right so you kind of like sitting on the ground, like the bike right in front of you. Just kind of wedged your hand between there and then kind of line it up and sort of tighten the bolts on each side until it sits there then kind of make your final adjustments and then tighten and crank the heck out of it so it's tight in there. So it was it was really kind of odd like Okay, see if I can figure this out wiggle it

45:56

around and do all that so

Brandon 46:02

three quirky and like weird things that you have to do sounds like it but after it's in there do you want to mess with it like ever again, it's fun Ah, boom which again, was the lack the whole point of like low low maintenance, right? Mm low everything to try to get back into biking for exercise. Yeah and I will say that like is very good exercise if you're just like Yeah, I just want to sort of like just straight up like fitness writing and like short writing with like, one gear you know, after like 25 minutes your legs are like Alright, we're good.

Collin 46:48

Next please.

Brandon 46:52

But already like not to like toot my horn a little bit but already I've noticed myself being able to ride a little bit longer. Right another lap or so. Without my quads going. What What are you

47:06

doing?

Brandon 47:08

I die. Yeah. taiyang like yes. Cool. So this has been kind of fun right? It's just fun to go ride around just a little bit and then you know don't go very far because again, it's kind of like I'm in a weird spot where there's like not a lot of road

Collin 47:33

choices you're kind of you're kind of cordoned off from yeah I'm kind

Brandon 47:39

of stuck over here so like yeah, I've kind of stuck in this weird spot where I don't have lots of road choice to go through I kind of like you know not really feeling the highway you know and really not not not feeling that you know, so it's kind of weird to try to figure out like where

Collin 48:02

to put miles in when you're kind of landlocked almost

Brandon 48:06

Yeah, well how can I get some riding ins today where can I actually

Collin 48:09

go oh man I see you're gonna get some rollers gonna get set up with a swift count and account and getting your don't

Brandon 48:17

I don't feel like a swift account is appropriate for

Collin 48:22

i don't know i'm really seeing this or maybe just some rollers you know get set up in your garage I mean in the wintertime that my fan blowing on yeah yeah

Brandon 48:29

I mean it's like wintry you know that could be it but that's the other appealing thing about the fifth gear there's no parts to get really dirty in the winter kits like grows outside go ride for a little bit while the chain yeah done so hard to see where I can get as I become more confident on the road right thing cuz that's the other thing too without writing for so long is that like road confidence is kind of like I don't know what you know what I mean like oh yeah so that's another problem that's like not problem but just like thing to kind of overcome you know, like what just like your own comfort level being out and about with traffic and you know, this is southwest Missouri. So like, try it trucks and livestock trailers and the occasional tractor. You know what I mean? Like you get

Collin 49:39

where you? Yeah, you have to like, I think just a very easy one is something like road position. How far out are you? Do you feel comfortable writing away from the gutter? Yeah, that's something that that I like, by the time I was leaving Arlington, like, I was basically just like, I'm in the lane. I am of vehicle on the road, you will move around me law and new people were like I am in the gutter. Don't hurt me pretend I'm not here on the road.

Brandon 50:09

Yeah, but I mean that even this side road over here, like that gutter is so abrupt and it's like, it's angled so sharply towards the side of the road. That that's just not a super safe place to be riding. No, you know, cuz like one little thing and your bikes going.

Collin 50:28

Well in buy my thing was always Well, I was like, I don't want to I want to be where the road is clean. Yeah, no glass bottles. Because everything gets shoved over into the gutter. I don't, I can't be writing there. That's dangerous for me to be putting out situation. And so

Brandon 50:50

yeah, you've got to, that's where you got to,

Collin 50:53

you got to figure that out.

Brandon 50:55

Do you ever cross the highway there? across the highway across this main this like road here? I gotcha. Like I haven't got across the highway. I could there's several places where it would be like very feasible. There's lights and everything. Yeah. But like, I could do that. But like, again, like right across. It's like very industrial over there. So lots of like, semi truck traffic at certain times of the day. Yeah, not the place to go.

Collin 51:23

Yeah, you'd have to figure out I have found that I always I enjoyed riding through industrial places, as long as they weren't like, like, as long as it's basically like bumper to bumper semi traffic. Yeah, heavy traffic. Those aren't fun. But usually they're not too bad. But you know that one better than I do. So yeah,

Brandon 51:42

there's just like, because over there, and then like there is like, technically, like, it's not really that if you have to go through some stuff in town. Or there's a side if you can get down this farm road a little bit. There's a road that cuts across and you'll end up in the city park. Right. So that's cool. Yeah, it's kind of a little trek there. So I don't know how feasible it is to do that. But that's another place that I could go. Right. That little side back road because one of those side backwards is like no traffic on it. So that Yeah, maybe getting to that road, you have to go a ways. Well, there's just a section of like, pretty heavily trafficked road to get there. I see. So like, it's like, time of day thing. Sure. me know. Cuz like sometimes I want to ride like, just want to get home for a little bit. And but it's like, almost five o'clock. So it's like, take it easy, you know? Yeah.

Collin 52:50

Not right now.

Brandon 52:51

Yeah. You know, by the days, like Sunday, when it was like 230. And there was nobody out anywhere. That would, that would have been fine. Probably, you know. Yeah. But so this is slowly building up the like, but a combination of fitness and confidence, right of like, how far afield can I go? Just going around so right now, just over there is fine. Kind of I get down by the weird farm warehouse thing. And whatever they're doing over there. Suspicious unlabeled warehouse. It's fine. I'm sure.

Collin 53:44

I will say I had a weird twinge of I don't know how to describe this as trying to describe this with Megan the other day. Five houses down from us. We had a massive meth bust. Oh, which Ray really makes me feel happy about that. Yeah, I'm a guy 31 and his buddy 33 we're renting this house and whatever. And it's been this The other nice part is that the house has been condemned. And they had like 30 days or whatever, to bring it back into compliance. And I was like, Yeah, right. Let's be very real about this. That's not happening this week nobody's nobody believes that. It's been like the only thing that people have been talking about only thing and it's really it's really gotten to me of just how how done and over I am with that kind of news coverage and talk among people of the city and like yeah, I get it's a big thing. I'm happy that they busted it. Move on. Well, yeah, so many other things. Amazing things, so many positive things going scarecrows, I like scarecrow competitions, yeah, this could be focused on that, that would really be a lot more beneficial to everybody's like mental health and emotional health and view of the city than without that thing. Like, it just really, really gutted me to start thinking about like, yeah, that's why everybody thinks certain things about the city is because that's all people talk about. Not Not everything else going on. And I'm not saying they're not important that we shouldn't talk about them. But I'm saying that when we focus on them, and we consume ourselves with the intricate details of the story, like, all I care about, is that they got those guys off the street, and they're no longer producing or distributing. I'm happy move on, I will forget about it. Because that's the happy part.

Brandon 55:50

I don't need to focus on

Collin 55:53

the history of them, or what got them to that point. Like it's over. Move on. And yeah, and but that's what people want to talk about. And it just, it really, I don't know, I guess kind of this moment of like, Can we stop? Stop talking about that, please? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. If I'm overreacting in the opposite direction?

56:15

No, I

Brandon 56:17

know, it makes I get that too sometimes. Because it's like, there's a point where people just like, keep talking about the same thing like that, that same like negative thing. And you're just like, Yeah, I know what else you got? Right? Like, it's just like, you're just rehashing the same thing over and over and over again. Right now I realize longtime listeners of the show are going to be like,

Collin 56:45

wrecked if you do that all the time. Yes, it's true. But we do have some sound clips for you.

Brandon 56:51

Yeah. All right, boy, let's just get a highlight reel God here of all the times I've repeated myself, but it's fine, right? It's trying to be you know,

56:59

that's different. Totally fine. No,

Brandon 57:05

but it's like, yeah, it's just like, Oh, you know, here's this. Do you guys hear about that? Like? Yeah, sure did. And then people want to, like engage you in conversation? And you just get I just kind of go? No, like, yeah, are you just kind of sit there and you start being like, Yep. Yep.

Collin 57:26

Anyway, they don't pick up on it. And

Brandon 57:30

that's always the most awkward part for me is people don't understand my social cues of I am totally not interested in this conversation. And they just keep they take my silence for, I'm just going to keep talking at you.

57:44

Know,

57:46

I'm trying to ignore you politely. Why? Why don't you get about this situation?

Collin 57:51

Yep. I am trying to help us move forward. And you are not. I just,

Brandon 57:57

I just like, I don't know, I'm going

Collin 58:01

because the the city is really concerned with like, its public image, and they're trying to do this big rebrand I've talked about before, and that's a process. And it's kind of like, people are like, Why do people think that all we have is a math problem? It's like, well, I don't know, all you ever talked about is your math problem. And, and not about anything else, not about anything else the city's doing or stands for or trying to change or any of the other initiatives or cool programs that you got, like, I don't see that on the news anywhere. I just, this is always front page headline, like, change the narrative. I don't know. Like, whatever. Yeah, you have the power here,

Brandon 58:34

right? Like that's the that's the thing, right? Like,

Collin 58:39

I know, you're just part of it, too, is you know, we have clients who know where we live, and they ask us, they're like, oh, where you write down? I'm like, Yeah, yes, that's our neighborhood. That's that was in our neighborhood. But I'm not that doesn't define our neighborhood. So don't do that. Because that's what I worry about to Oh, yeah, try thinking like, Oh, that's where you live. I'm like, first off, it's everywhere. Second off,

59:00

that's not

Collin 59:01

that's not what our neighborhood is. So don't even put that on us. It just I guess I got a little offended by it. I guess now they think about it. Like it really was more like,

Brandon 59:10

like, ah, like that. That's not

Collin 59:13

what this neighborhood is or who my neighbors are. And that's what they're being kind of kind of lumped in with one another as.

Brandon 59:24

Yeah, that's Yeah, choosing to define things by like the most negative is I now, I am definitely guilty of doing this on certain scales. I will not lie. You know, as the easy thing to do, though, right? Just be like, Oh, yeah. No, you live by that meth house like Yeah, yeah, whatever. Yeah, come on. Yeah. Yeah, defining things by the lowest common denominator are easy. And so when you find them That trap of this is the easy thing to do. You know, you have to search harder for more positive things sometimes or like other things, you know. And so it's, it's hard to do that, especially with something like that, where it's like, there's all these other like, societal connotations and all these other like things that are going into things like drug busts. So, you know, there's all kinds of different viewpoints of some people are very, like, I don't know, they have an air of betterment. You know, like, Oh, can

1:00:44

you believe that? Low brow person?

Brandon 1:00:47

Aha. You know, I mean, like, there's that there's the whole, like, all this other stuff. It's, you know, as a whole.

1:00:58

Want to get

Collin 1:01:00

it? Yeah, yeah, it's not over here being precious about my image or anything, but I just know, but but being precious about not trying to be precious over here about my image, I just believe that there are better ways to go about making changes than focusing only on the problem, or only on the negative. And I feel like some people have that mindset going, like, if we lose sight of what the problem is, we will never change it. So we've always got to talk about the problem. And it's like, No, you get recognize it, and then you make change, and you keep moving. And you you celebrate your successes. That's how you, you know, that's how you make the change. I don't know. Yeah, I'm just me. So whatever.

Brandon 1:01:44

Yeah, no, it's, it's hard. I, I feel that way to like, you know, what, lots of stuff like, you know, job stuff, like worlds, like little stuff. Like, it doesn't matter. Like a lot of people just focus on like, Oh,

1:01:59

you did this wrong, like, okay, yeah. But like, you know, or this is the one bad thing and we got to focus on this bad thing. Only, he does sort of bring it out, because like, but look at all these other good things that we have. See the good things, look at the cool stuff, or the nice stuff,

Brandon 1:02:13

right? So like, Yeah,

Collin 1:02:17

no, I think it's especially hard because while those new stories going around, I got a chance to go and sit with and do a short interview with the director of a program called Retrieving Freedom. They are a service dog training and matching company that was a company because it sounds Anyway, there are a number of us service service service for service dogs that work specifically with children with autism with autistic kids, and that's the disabilities. And they train dogs. And I sat in their new facility that opened in 2019, that I never heard about, and talked with their program that has been around since 2011. That I've never heard about. And this is their national headquarters that I've never known about. Wow, all right, there we go. Surprise, talked with their director for like an hour and 15 minutes, and got to tour the facility. And like, I'm like they. So I'll just start with this thing, the average cost so they match their dogs, when they get to two years old, that's the end of their, their program, they get two years old to get matched with an owner, the cost of that dog, if you were to pluck it out and try and sell it, the average cost is between 35 and $50,000. The cost that has it that's taken to raise that animal over the last two years. And all the training, training, housing that all that stuff, their recipients get totally free. And why go through an extensive matching program and they like have on site housing, and they fly people in from all over the country to live at this place. And it's set like kind of like a dormitory style. So they've got a common living area, but there's a bunch of living rooms to hold, families can come and stay. And so they can go through the program at the end and they can be matched with different dogs like quote unquote take them home and live with the dog and make sure it's going to be a good fit. And like they've got a desensitization room for the kids, you know, who get really overstimulated and got special lights and stimming toys and all this stuff for them. And like I'm blown away by all these things and how they go about their program. I am just completely jaw on the floor. Talking with Kyle, and then I go back, drive back into town. And the news you know people are all talking about this stuff and whatever I'm like but but like 10 minutes North you can go it's they're doing this cool stuff but why are we talking

Brandon 1:05:07

yeah that's a good that's a good point I yeah that's bad that really yeah that turns into sharp relief of like look you're now choosing to focus on this you know

1:05:21

yeah

Brandon 1:05:21

yeah though my my the part of my brain that is like really jaded and grumpy and just angry at the world knows that they do that because that is the new story that gets coverage and makes money for the new station that's really all it is right the part of my brain that says you know nothing matters except for money and everything is based on that and that's the whole reason anything happens that part of me that's like very just like or knows and that makes me even more angry

1:06:07

like you're choosing this you could be doing good in the world that you choose this Why Why are you

Collin 1:06:17

yeah it's so different like there's a lot of weight could it's a choice I think yeah exactly a bike for whatever reason you know as you said gets clicks that drives traffic keep conversations going get people engaged and glued to the screen TV or otherwise and you're going I don't I really don't like what that says about a lot of society.

Brandon 1:06:40

Yeah right it's bad it's it's very disheartening when you

Collin 1:06:45

in order to get views I have to talk about only negative and then I can't I literally can't bring out and feel good puppy story. Like a kid dude. So we're trying to that's part of a personally we're trying to do but that

Brandon 1:07:03

was just sounds like we're gonna have to in the future scheduled good or news Part Three for though brother podcast and coming soon. Ladies, gentlemen. And undetermined time.

Collin 1:07:16

Yes. Going on the notes.

1:07:23

Yes. Well,

Brandon 1:07:27

do you have

Collin 1:07:31

you have a good rest of your night,

1:07:33

buddy? You too.

Collin 1:07:34

Well, we'll we'll do this again next week.

1:07:38

All right. Love you. Bye. Bye bye.