he was not playin

In which Collin has switched softwares, Brandon has a review, Aaron is tending his fields, and Bilbo answers some riddles….in the dark…

• Welcome to Oh Brother, Oh Brother. 0:04

  • Welcome to oh brother, a podcast of three brothers.

  • Top tips on proper hydrating techniques.

• If you are in an extreme heat advisory for multiple days in a row then you too can put some water in a bottle and drink it all throughout 2:28

  • Extreme heat advisory for multiple days in a row.

  • Drinking water throughout the day.

  • Rip out all of the software and hire a new person.

  • The fourth of july is a travel holiday.

• What happens when you’re planning your trip, don’t forget about your pet. 7:31

  • The onslaught of new inquiries.

  • The weekend is crazy busy in one location.

  • The moral of the story, don't forget about pet shock.

  • The challenge of capacity with staff.

  • One of their clients has a dog terrified of fireworks.

  • The extreme drought in north

• Don’t put on your own fireworks. 15:06

  • The tone of, don't put on your own fireworks.

  • Drought and no fireworks is fascist.

  • No mowing or weeding today.

  • No water today, no problem.

  • New client onboarding with new software.

  • Meet and greet with a new staff member.

• James talks about the importance of being the third choice. 21:56

  • Being the third choice for a client.

  • The one time a client invited us over.

  • James May cooking show, reacher and gold cup soccer.

  • Jack Reacher, a mystery.

• Was there a movie about Jack Reacher or Jack Ryan? 27:46

  • There is a movie about jack reacher.

  • The first season of Jack reacher is slow.

  • Not riveting or interesting in the first season.

  • Cutting his losses.

  • What we do in the shadows.

  • How the fields is coming along.

• How often do you use the sprinkler? 36:39

  • Getting the sprinkler on and using it.

  • The sprinkler is clogged.

  • Mowing the grass every other day.

  • When to start using the field.

• What have you been up to since we last talked? 41:04

  • Welcome back to the show, brandon.

  • Summer guitar time with brian.

  • The world's best customer service, sweetwater.

  • Guitar strings are dying.

• Movie theater review. 47:31

  • Going to movie theater with friends.

  • Movie theater is a vintage movie theater.

  • Old timey movie theater in anderson, mcdonough county.

  • Old movie theater seats.

• Indiana Jones and the Fall of Destiny. 52:08

  • The sound is a little wonky.

  • Indiana Jones and the fall of destiny.

  • Don't read any of that garbage.

  • The movie is fun to watch.

• The dynamic between him and the female character in the movie. 58:17

  • The dynamic between india and the female character.

  • The opening of the movie.

  • Little references to other indie movies.

  • No consensus on which Indiana Jones movie is the best.

  • Every person has a different perspective on Indiana Jones movies.

  • The bad guy is predictable.

• Why Indiana Jones is the best movie of the 60s. 1:05:37

  • A couple of times the bad guys show up in Indiana Jones.

  • Nostalgia and personal preference.

  • Temple of doom is the best movie ever made.

  • Collin is eating bugs.

  • Tulsa drillers game for fourth of july.

  • Fireworks show in Tulsa, texas.

• The power of the Fourth of July. 1:13:21

  • Tiny town in oklahoma goes crazy with their fourth of july fireworks.

  • Tiny towns are crazy.

  • Experience in a small town for the July holidays.

  • Horticulture and the study of grass.

• Introduction to the new chapter. 1:19:39

  • There's more than one type of grass.

  • Dadgummit encountered a few things.

  • Not really a thunderstorm, apparently.

  • Giant trolls and giant stone columns flinging things.

• The dangerous part of caves is where they go. 1:25:51

  • The stone giants in the dark.

  • The dangerous part of caves.

  • The cave is not safe.

  • Gandalf slips away. Gandalf is a burglar.

  • Goblins don't like dwarves in his house.

  • Goblin wars, the goblin wars.

  • People glowing with rage and other fantasy themes.

  • The first real vulcan.

• What are you all for? What does the book cover? 1:36:43

  • The first time people read the hobbit.

  • The illustration of the goblin gang.

  • Immediate action, fire and explosives.

  • Growls, growls, curses, shrieking and striking.

• Gandalf springs with light and the Great and Powerful Oz. 1:40:15

  • The next few pages of the book.

  • The next chapter is blue.

• The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring. 1:42:41

  • Lord of the rings. Bilbo falls and bonks his head.

  • The first thingbilbo does.

  • Have a chance or predestination thing in life.

  • What Tolkien didn't know when he wrote.

• What’s up with the goblins? 1:47:19

  • The heart of the mountain.

  • Gollum wants to eat bilbo.

  • High stakes game of riddles with bilbo.

  • One on one staring in the face.

  • The back and forth conversation between Gollum and Jake.

  • The dark, twisted nest.

• It’s like a slow ramp. 1:57:30

  • The slow build-up of the riddles.

  • The panic in bilbo and gollum.

  • The subtle nature of this is really important.

  • Gollum is confused and enraged.

• What’s the force pushing all this forward? 2:03:35

  • Gollum is confused and bilbo is confused.

  • The ring finds its way to bilbo.

  • Gollum escapes from bilbo.

  • The personal stakes in this chapter are higher than ever.

• What’s to come. 2:09:20

  • Comparison to what's to come in Hobbit.

  • The danger level is increasing.

  • Turning point for brian personally.

  • Closing remarks from aaron.

• Ramping up the pace of the story. 2:13:45

  • The stakes have ramped up.

  • The pace is increasing and the urgency is increasing.

  • Ramping up the story, ramping up everything from here.

  • Aaron and the mirkwood.

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SPEAKERS

Brandon, Aaron, Collin

Collin  00:04

Welcome to Oh, brother, a podcast of three brothers trying to figure it all out. Your hosts, Brandon, Colin and Aaron. On this week's show, he was not playing. Oh, hi. Oh boy. How goes it

Brandon  00:27

up pretty good trying to not be overheating to death because it's very hot outside. I'm gonna lock

Collin  00:35

it. You don't like 107 105 or whatever it

00:40

is outside

Brandon  00:42

you're not No Not a fan. Not a fan. as I

Collin  00:44

as I said before, my my my heritage gives me a plus to to cold damage, but I'm worthless.

Brandon  00:53

Yeah. Yeah, Wrong. Wrong way here

Collin  01:04

yes and I so if you hear me drinking the water that I should have drunk five hours ago.

Brandon  01:14

Okay, Dad, way to hydrate appropriately.

Collin  01:22

Oh, wait, you save it all to the very end of the day. And then you cram it all in at the same time

Brandon  01:27

that right? You save it? You save it until you have a debilitating headache.

Collin  01:33

You feel nauseous? You can't

Brandon  01:37

stand up. And then and then you drink all the water. Right? Is that how it works? Yeah, i

Collin  01:44

i Is there any other way? I mean, really? That's.

Brandon  01:47

I mean, yes. Thank you for subscribing to

Collin  01:50

the top tips today on no brother of proper hydrating techniques don't get to. No, no.

Brandon  01:58

So here's, here's my top tip. Okay, now, there is this new invention, right? It's called

Collin  02:09

a bottle. Now. Now bottles are great because you can put inside this bottle. Anything you want you including water. I know. I know. It's amazing. So listening listeners. If you are also

Brandon  02:28

in an extreme heat advisory for multiple days in a row. Then you too, can put some water in a bottle and drink it all throughout the day. And not save your hydration. So you get home like Colin and are debilitating.

Collin  02:54

Oh, yeah, I have done quite a good job of hydrating. today. I just not so much. I lagged a little bit. I was drinking throughout the day, just not nearly enough. And when you are doing the dog walking and the pet sitting going inside of homes, sitting in hot cars for extended periods of time and then also talking and teaching people. You do a lot of things. And then you're like, Oh, I'm kind of I'm a little a little dry in the mouth. Oh, no. That's a sign of dehydration. I need to go fix that. That's true.

Brandon  03:38

sneaks up on you. Right? It's the problem. That's the other problem. It's very sneaky. Because basically, I imagine that we work the same way from what it sounds like. But it's like, I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm fine. Dead. Right? It's like, right. I very I don't always have this like, oh, man, I'm starting to flag Nope. It's like, good, good. Good. Good. Totally not good. So like, you have to be aware. Right? You have to like know, okay. I don't feel bad yet. But I will if I don't drink this right now.

Collin  04:16

Right? Yeah, yeah, I'm like, it is it is very much like that I have the exact same where I'm perfectly fine. Usually what happens is it's like as soon as I stop forward momentum, or like, Oh, let me stop and sit down or do something and then it's like, oh, no, this is bad. Right? Like that's, that's what happens.

Brandon  04:41

Your body catches up to you. Right? It's like, oh, hey, yeah, here I am.

Collin  04:45

Blam. I thought you were doing okay. To art and not but it was Hi. Ally all along. It was been very busy this week. Let me tell you what you want to do. It is right before the busiest travel period for a couple months, you want to rip out all of your software internals, hire a brand new person. You know, and just and then, like move schedules around. And yeah, so that's, that's my pro business tip.

Brandon  05:24

I didn't really think about this because I apparently am the only person in the United States that does not think that the Fourth of July is a travel holiday. Right? Like, I don't think about the Fourth of July is like, go in far afield and like do it like that. I've never ever associated the Fourth of July with traveling. And I think, apparently, according to the news, I am the only one. Right. So like, I've been reading like, Yeah, crazy travel delays. Right. Obviously, the Northeast had a bunch of storms. Apparently I just got home just in the nick of time before like, all the flights are being delayed due to like crazy weather and all kinds of stuff. So apparently, my sneaking home was much more fortuitous than I thought. Like, the whole week. It's been like horrible. Like, all these places are like crazy. And then like, now it's the fourth of July. Right. So listeners, Fourth of July, American Independence Day is upon us. And apparently, this is a holiday for vacationing. And traveling far afield Uh huh. I don't, I never associated those two things together. And so it's very confusing, right? Because I'm just like, oh, yeah, my fourth of July is very lucky.

Collin  06:48

Like, I just go to the park over here. And watch fireworks. That's it. I do.

Brandon  06:59

Try to figure out which restaurants are closed and which ones aren't for takeout.

Collin  07:03

But that's the other. That's the other mystery. Right? So like, who knows? And so, yeah,

Brandon  07:14

I heard about you, either today or yesterday, whenever I learned that the Fourth of July was a massive travel holiday. So how's that go?

07:27

It's so it's so

Collin  07:28

bad. It's really bad. I mean, it's good. It's fine. It's just we could we could tell. I mean that it was gonna it was good. That Onslaught was about to happen. Because we can half ago, we started to get inquiries. Okay, so we had just just newly launched the software, getting it implemented, read ripped it out, we threw it in, we ourselves did not know all of the steps that we would that we would take it, that's what we would do. And, but and we started to get people asking for services. And it was all these people who were looking for boarding, boarding, boarding. And it's because all of the boarding places were full, full, full. So if we don't capture people prior, like a couple of months prior to this, we get the overflow of people who typically board their dogs, but waited too long to board and now are looking for their other options because they have their travel booked. Yeah.

08:38

And they

Collin  08:43

wanted to now they're looking for this this new stuff. So we were frantically trying to nail down our new process because it does not match how we used to onboard people or a new inquiry process because it was like it was generating these new forms and all this stuff. And yeah, I mean, we are we are so slammed, weirdly, in in one location. We are slammed this weekend from like, tumbled today through Tuesday, Thursday or Wednesday. Yeah, today to Wednesday, and then it flips and then the following weekend. We're crazy busy in the other location. So so much so that I have to go fill in at the other location to take up slack there because we have so much overflow that my four staff members can't take it off.

Brandon  09:36

It's insanity. It's

Collin  09:39

Yes, it is. It's absolutely madness. And it's all pretty much from existing clients, people who were ready. I mean, they they've been using us for a year or so. We have very few brand new clients this weekend because we booked up so much and I mean I was telling people like now we're full to Whoo. But if you want to move forward with our onboarding, like to get ahead for next time, then it's not never satisfying for anybody. And we're second or third choice for those people. And you're so full stop going to make a big difference. Yeah, still the story we have one that got attacked us. Bad. Guys, I

Brandon  10:24

say the moral of the story is, when you're planning your trip, don't forget about your pet. Shock. Now, you've planned everything months in advance plan for your dog,

Collin  10:36

too. Yeah, yeah, that's it's exactly what happens. And, and I know people take last minute trips all the time. And so you know, it's easy for them to book a new plane ticket or easy for them to book the hotel. And then they go and look and try and find pecker like, then that that becomes a problem. And so we have people who have paid the airlines, they've got the hotel, they rented the car, and we're sitting there going, like, sorry, I can't, I can't help you. Like I physically, I physically can't like, my staff member tonight. Like she's she started working at five, and she just works straight till 1030. Tonight, and the same thing, like every night in the mornings, we're starting at 6am. And my mornings person just has eight visits in a row, like just straight through. So it's like I there's no more room. There's no more room, which is crazy, because it's one of those things of like, it's hard to balance capacity with staff. When you have such variation of man, it's crazy. i We have seven people working in this area, and we can't handle it all. But also, two and a half, maybe three weeks ago, we if I had any more staff members, we'd be like, well, you can twiddle your thumbs up. We'll be right back. Oh, and we found out that one of our clients who has a dog that's like, terrified of fireworks and all things. They're called Zach has a fireworks display. On the first night that was fine. They like shut down the street to put it on. And I'm like,

12:34

Oh my gosh, what? Ah, ah

Collin  12:39

it sounds very mad. Good. No, no. I know. Of course, of course. Thankfully. I mean, he's a big dog. So I think, I don't know, I think he we're just going to have to keep him in his kennel a bit longer than we normally would. Just for his safety and the safety of the house, which doesn't make me feel good, but we're gonna have to do that. Because it's, it's who we watch. Oh, man, that's terrible. Yeah, so we're, I have everybody, every one of the clients we're seeing is like, if they have a smart TV, like I'm turning on YouTube, I'm going to calming pet music youtube channel. I'm blasting that on Amazon, you know, on Alexa and all sorts of things. And we're just going to turning fans on Hi, and trying to move pets to basements and things like that, like we had. It's just it's such an ordeal and up in up north, they are in an extreme drought. One of the worst in years. Our county was actually just declared a state of emergency because of the drought. Oh and so I hope Yeah, yes, it is a real by him like it's it's is many of the events a heavy farming its agricultural community. And people are like, well, like, ah, you know, we're not going to have hay for the winter. And so we have to start culling the herd now or we have to start cutting our losses now and harvesting what we can and, you know, the animals that they've been investing 510 years in or whatever, like those, you know, those those are, those are about to disappear just because they've got to send things down because otherwise this winter, they're going to be hurting even more. So it's yeah, it's really serious up there. They've got a they've got a burn ban, in effect, fireworks or if they're we actually just got an email from the city that was like, hey, so extreme drought state of emergency fireworks band, you can barely go Real outside? We does the city is going to put on one fireworks display.

15:06

Come and see it.

Collin  15:07

Don't put on your own. Thanks. Right. It was very much that tone of like, we'll do it. Stop. Don't you don't have

Brandon  15:17

to. So

Collin  15:19

yeah, yes. You don't have to we'll put one on. You can see it from everywhere. We'll do it. Right. It's we do it every year, but we're super excited. We're still gonna do it. But also, you don't. Right. That's the deal, guys. Right. Right,

15:34

right.

Collin  15:36

It's not the case, not the case. Because we all know, we all know that. droughts and burn bands. And no fireworks is fascist. So we have to exercise against that by lighting everything off at the same time. Hmm, yeah. Or you

Brandon  15:58

could not do that. Yeah, there was. It was a long time ago now. But they'd have canceled hours before as well,

Collin  16:08

for drought based reasons. So

Brandon  16:14

I can't remember how many years ago that was. I feel like it was a long time. But but still. No, good. Aaron, are you surviving? Yeah. There is it is here

Aaron  16:31

presently. Yes. We've, the last several days, I've actually been up there working on our fields. And we have a big sprinkler thing. But they're like, oh, yeah, a few years ago, we actually

Collin  16:42

had all in my head since I can. Can you hear me? Yeah. Oh, yeah. So it can

Aaron  16:53

be me. I got scared. But we, okay. Two years ago, they're like, Oh, yeah.

Collin  17:00

We had a water shortage. Like we couldn't like do like anything I'm like, But why? And so

Aaron  17:07

But thankfully, there hasn't been anything yet. But I wasn't there mowing today. I was in the weeding. And I looked at my phone. It's like, temperatures and blah, blah, blah. 104. I was like, You know what I'm done for the day. So

17:23

I picked up that whatever kids I had home, I was like, Alright, get back. And so I just went straight home because yeah, it was like, hi, and where I'm at. It's just like, field. So there's no like, we'll cover from like, the elements whatsoever. Yeah. And so

Collin  17:43

on. I'm going home. So by

Aaron  17:48

I've been I've been up there since Monday, and I got I mean, I'm sunburned. I am all scratched up. Like, it's, it's bad. But thankfully like a few days ago, there was a rainstorm came through.

Collin  18:02

And that kind of helped some. Sure. Like yeah, it's just been blistering up. And our little AC units been chugging along as best as possible. So hot yeah,

Brandon  18:18

so it's not better in Oklahoma, but that's what I've learned today. Did you you weren't here for this part earlier. But did you actually drink water today? Unlike

Collin  18:26

Colin, he has a really quiet on my end. So I take no water to what

Brandon  18:36

did you drink water today? Unlike Yes,

Aaron  18:39

I had to stop at a gas station. Because I brought water up there. And I was there for like three or four hours and I was immediately on with it. Like so thankfully all the way back I stopped and got some water. Like I think I like stopped twice because I just shoved it and I was like oh I need more

Brandon  18:58

good job way to be better than Colin in this excellent excellent work.

Aaron  19:05

I just gotta I just gotta keep keep reminding myself put sunscreen on other than I'm good.

Collin  19:11

That's difficult. Yeah. Yeah, I'm drinking plenty of water. It's fine. I'm drowning in water. Not literally over here. Look, it's fine. No, no, no, that was

Brandon  19:32

drowned in water. That's an appropriately stated that's too much. Right, you don't want to.

Collin  19:42

I had an awkward moment. This week. It was wonderful. So we do New Client Onboarding where people request our services, we go over to their house or their homes. And we have streamline this process now with our new software where we've taken a lot of the questions that we asked in home, and we've added those was to the profile that they fill out. So it's reduced the number of new questions we have to ask the earth I'm gonna say reduce the number of standard questions that we have to ask. Now, when we're there. Now we can ask for more just localities, right, we can have them write a description of where the food will be stored, or where the cleaning products are, where these things are. But now we have to adjust our time because these questions have been built out. I've built these questions out over the last seven years for to fill 30 minutes, because that's usually how much time we spend. So I'm still adjusting to this and, and how to fill that time and getting a feel for the way things are. And I'm 10 minutes into this meet and greet. And the if there's a lull in the conversation, the guy walks over and goes, well. I got a sales pitch for you. Konya. Now, without it, he goes, What are you do with my with my new, my new staff member, he's shadowing me on this visit, and he goes out, what do you do? Jen's doing this Friday 1111 45. And I say, Oh, well, walking dogs probably why what's going on? He's like, Well, I got this, I got this group that we get together every week. It's at this restaurant. And you know, first time attendees get a free lunch on us. And, you know, it's a group and we refer out to each other. And I want to make sure that it's gonna be a good fit. And there's a couple different chapters in the area. And I know, there's I know, there's another a pet sitter that in another one, and I tried to use them, but they're fully booked. So I knew I needed to find somebody else. Yeah, that makes me feel really great. Thank you. Thank you for that, sir. I really feel wonderful. About that.

Brandon  21:56

You like you don't like being the third choice?

Collin  21:59

Well, anyway, we get together and, you know, we agree that we'll refer out to one another. And, you know, if it's a good fit, you know, you get a couple 100 people in the group and, you know, you meet up and it's yeah, it's good. It's really great way if you're, you know, if you're interested in you know, to want if you want to get more clients, you know, you can definitely, you know, join that way. So, what do you say? all add up to I have to check my Skype. Thank you. I really do. I don't know what's, you know, they really wow, it's, it's wonderful. Sounds good. And my staff member goes, Wow, that's really great. You guys help support one another? That's wonderful. I'm like, stop talking. Don't engage, disengage, stop. And, basically, it's a refer, you know, like, No, I will not go to your cult, I have other things to do. I do not need to go to this event, or this, you know, to partake in your ceremonies. And that whole conversation took like, another four minutes to work through of the awkward stammering things and like trying to move on and him kept coming back to it. And then that, like 16 minutes, I was like, well, we're done here. Have a good day. Bye. Oh. And I just feel I feel bad about it. But at the same time, I'm just like, Oh, I just can't. I can't, I can't No, thank you. Stop it. It's not. I will say it's not as bad as the one time that one of our clients invited us over to their home for a meeting. And it was an it was an MLM was an MLM call, right? Yes. I remember this. I remember.

Brandon  23:50

The whole episode is basically about why MLMs are terrible. But that was

Collin  23:59

so that was fun. That was not fun. No, thank you. Sorry that I experienced that this week. And afterwards, I was like, talking to my trainee as like,

24:09

so Yeah, that happens sometimes.

Collin  24:10

And he was like, that was really awkward. Yeah. It was, wasn't it Buddy was but what is uh, what have you been? Would have been up to? Um, not a whole lot. Really. Again, trying to stay out of the heat. That is number

Brandon  24:30

one, because I am not about that life. Five not going outside when it's 105 degrees. No, thank you. So I've just been messing around inside I did some stuff getting caught up from being gone. Not not too much. Mostly watching TV.

Collin  24:54

Yeah, yeah, pretty much it right. That's

Brandon  24:57

pretty much did you know this now knocked up on me. James Mays cooking show there's a second season out who that snuck up on me, right? I didn't know that happened. So I'm gonna have to watch some of that. Getting ready for the Tour de France starts on Saturday, right? Watch a little Gold Cup Soccer, trying to figure out why Qatar is playing in the CONCACAF cup. But that's fine. That's fine. Whatever. That's okay

Collin  25:36

that's about it really? Did watch

Brandon  25:43

some Oh, that mini review time. Watch some reacher on Amazon. Right? Watch some of that. Because like, Oh, I heard that might be good. So watch that season this week. Season One of reacher it's true show. What do you like most?

Collin  26:02

Pretty good, right? It's

Brandon  26:03

very, like Miss mystery II.

Collin  26:06

Oh, what do you like most about it?

Brandon  26:13

I thought it was a good, like. So it's very, like it's very intense, right? It's like a mystery. They're like, you know, there's this like, weird mystery, like going all the way through of like, what happened? You know, the inciting incident is like these people get killed by the side of the road. And they're just like, you

Collin  26:35

know, what? And so it's like, Jack Reacher,

Brandon  26:41

who is, you know, stereo. He's like a Jason Bourne type, basically, right? It's from like a book or something, I guess. But he's like a JSON body type guy. Military investigator Special Operations, stuff. And he gets caught up in this investigation in this like small town in Georgia.

Collin  27:04

So

Brandon  27:07

it's really interesting how they're, it's all connected together, like the slow uncovering of those of what the goings on and stuff like that. So it's pretty good, right? It's very riveting. The will

Collin  27:21

be riveting. I believe. Like, pacing is

Brandon  27:26

a good way. I harp about this a lot of times on like TV shows, right? Like this, where the pacing is very excellent. So it's like an hour or whatever. It's like, oh, done, right. Oh, gotta watch. I

Collin  27:38

can watch another one. Now. Let's go. So that's, you know, should watch that they're gonna recommend you recommend that one. Wasn't there? Wasn't there a movie with Tom Cruise? Didn't Tom Cruise? Who played? Was there a movie about Jack Reacher or Jack? Okay, so,

Brandon  27:58

yes, there are now I don't I'm very confusing. There are two fictional characters

Collin  28:05

named Jack that are

Brandon  28:09

like, actually, this one is like

Collin  28:14

I can't remember the author name here. But yes, there is a film, right? Yes, there are several films. Because it's a book. They're books. By Hold on.

Brandon  28:34

Lee Child, yes, of course. Of course. Lee Child. So he's like a. He's one of those like, really prolific authors who just like writes like 200,000 books a year. So there. It's like a pretty well known series. And it has been adapted to film several times. Yes, including. Tom Cruise, I believe. But I have never seen any of those already. The books. I only have watched this year.

Collin  29:03

Yes. Yes. So there we go. Right. But I also

Brandon  29:10

learned so that's the Jack Reacher there's

Collin  29:13

a guy from the ion from the office fictional character now played him in his Tom Clancy series, right.

Brandon  29:18

Also 70,000 movies, including like Harrison Ford, and like,

Collin  29:24

all this stuff, right. And yes, yeah. on Amazon also. No,

Brandon  29:37

that is also where it's using because there's two. So yes, two fictional characters named Jack in this very large, expansive universe. I also started watching the first series of Jack Ryan didn't like it as well. I'm not. I'm only like, halfway done. Well, it's much slower. Right, Tom? Clancy is like that. It's like very slow. In like LA, and there's like a couple episodes, you're like, I don't even why? What are you doing? So it's just like a very slow build. Right? I

Collin  30:10

guess it's supposed to be suspenseful. But like, you know, whatever.

Brandon  30:17

The first season is older, too, right? So it's the first season. I think every season is like a different story arc, I imagine. But like the first season is like,

Collin  30:31

of Jack Ryan.

Brandon  30:33

It's very slow build. It's very blah. It's like stereotypical, like, Middle Eastern terrorists doing terrorist he things for unknown reasons. And he's like your shadow like, this is a trope. In 2023, it has been like hammered into the ground mercilessly. I'm sure when Tom Clancy wrote this book,

Collin  30:57

it was like, cool, but like.

Brandon  31:03

Yeah, right. It's just not riveting or interesting, like weird murder mystery in small town, Georgia, was much more of a draw for me than Middle Eastern terreblanche. Right. Like, is it? Isn't that isn't that rough, though? Whenever you have, maybe

Collin  31:20

the other seasons are better. Decide? Do I commit more to that? Was it the first see if they can get better? More? Do I try and, you know, just run while I can. Right? Yeah, cut my losses. Like that's, that's not a good place to be in. cut my losses. Yeah, that's true. And so

Brandon  31:58

I don't know what to do. I'm not going to commit a lot of time to it, because I watched the reacher show, like, very quickly, right? If I watch more Jack Ryan, it will be like, a much more spaced out affair.

Collin  32:16

Where I don't,

Brandon  32:17

I'm not going to commit to watching like multiple episodes per day. I will find something more interesting to do with my time than that, because I think it's just not at least this first season again, only watched by the first he's not that riveting. So like, I'm not just like, grasped by it. I don't really, I'm not super invested in any of the people or care that much about what's happening. So if you just like watch it every once in a while, it'd be fine. Right? Like, oh, I'll watch a little bit here a little bit. They're like, Oh, man,

Collin  32:52

it's fine. Sorry. Aaron, have you?

Brandon  32:57

Do you have to find yourself in this ever? Do you ever I know you probably don't have a lot of time, coach, man to watch things like that. But what do you do? Whenever you get there? Have you ever been in a place where you're like, you don't know if you want to keep watching it? Or what? Do you have any examples of that?

Collin  33:12

Ah, there's a few times where I'll start a series.

33:18

Especially like with people who are at all like,

Collin  33:20

I pick it up. So good. And then like me there's so much on my watch. There's I was often on with what we do in the shadows, that kind of mockumentary about, like the vampires for a little bit to me was like, I was watching it and then it kind of got like, not repetitive. Like,

Aaron  33:54

first half of season one. I was like, Well,

33:59

I mean, it's supposed to get better, right? And then episode after episode, I was like, Oh, well, man, but it was something to watch and something like I'm not typically used to watching and so I gave it a try. And I started to really like it after a while.

Collin  34:17

So that took me a good chunk of time, but I was like, weeks into like, invested and then finally like it bro. But yeah, there was there was a good show. Or I haven't really bad movies, where it's like it starts like well this is disappointing. I don't want to watch it anymore. But I know like what the shadows like when I first watched it, it was kind of like that. Well this is not fun. No, that it's not like terrible. Am I that for me was like a slog to get through everything Just go through. Yeah, I,

Brandon  35:03

we talked about on here before too, but I felt the same way when I watched we'll have time. Right? I I still haven't decided if I'm going to watch season two Yeah, if and when it comes out. Because season one I felt just like you described like, it was such a slog, right? It was like, it's not even, like a couple episodes. I was like, almost hate watching it. Like, I just want to get through this. There's not that many episodes left. I was like, there was like two episodes left or whatever it was like, okay, I can do it. I'm gonna

Collin  35:40

power through not a stunning endorsement

Brandon  35:47

for that show. But I felt like that with that one, too. That was another one that

Collin  35:50

was like, Oh my gosh, I don't

Brandon  35:55

it comes to the pacing. I think I'm gonna harp on them and flog this horse forever. But like, some sometimes it's good, right?

Collin  36:08

How are the fields coming along? Well, I'll ask you that.

36:12

Well, I've been up there the last few days because it's rained so much.

Collin  36:16

Oh, really? Yeah. So

36:18

we got it. Like, after we got home from Fourth of July, because we went to the drillers game.

Collin  36:25

It like, poured all night. And so I was like, I don't know how to go fields today. And I didn't, because it's like it rained. Like, all day, even today.

Aaron  36:38

And so tomorrow, I might go up and mow and try to get the sprinkler on just in case. But I've had been having problems with just utilizing the sprinkler has just been a pain in the butt. So I'll, I'll see what they look like. But I everyone says that like my superintendent and some of the school board members like, Oh, this is a that's the best of skills ever looked? I was like, really? I've only put water on it like how,

Collin  37:03

what have they done before? So you probably don't want to know is the is the sprinkler, just old? Or is it broken. So it it gets clogged very easy. So it's, it's called a

37:19

water mareel. And you it's basically looks like it's got these two like big old tires, and is a hose like a really thick hose just coiled around it and attached to the sprinkler. It's like a an L shaped sprinkler sprinkler head and has wheels on the base. And it's attached to this hose and you pull that

Collin  37:43

out to wherever you need to. And you plug it into the water source. And then you set it on kind of a timer. And the water pressure itself will like

Aaron  37:57

hold, the light will pull the sprinkler back in. And so is it just as long like I imagine, like you know, growing up, like we've put the sprinkler out on something and you just like, slowly hold it while it was on. That's basically what it is. And

Collin  38:15

typically, it's supposed to spray like anywhere between like 30 to 50 feet, but for some reason mines clogged.

Aaron  38:25

Because the sediment just gets into it, like all the sand and rocks. And so I have to clear that out. And I guess I didn't put it on correctly. And so the water pressure isn't like super great right now. And so it's kind of more of a Sutter than anything. So I might have to spend most of my time doing that. But if I if I mow it, because it's Bermuda grass, I gotta get it like really low, and then just put a bunch of water on it like every single day or every other day just to make it look decent.

Collin  38:54

So that's

Aaron  38:57

that's the only because other schools have like in ground systems, where they're like on a timer, they pop up on the ground. I'm not that fortunate, at least not yet anyways.

Collin  39:09

But yeah, I gotta, I gotta like, get in there. With, you know, whatever I have and just turn it on, flip the switch and then just kind of let it go. Okay, and is that is that? How often do you is that a daily thing multiple times a day, like usually I'll go up like, every day, especially last week.

Aaron  39:37

That didn't really have like a whole lot going on.

Collin  39:39

I would go up like, every day.

Aaron  39:42

I'd open up the hitting facility for any of the kids that want to come up and hit. And I would just go like, go and work on the field. This week.

Collin  39:51

We're in what's called deadweight.

Aaron  39:53

So I can't I can't have kids do any like school activities. But I could still go up and like take care of have fields or do other stuff. But since it's been

Collin  40:04

Fourth of July and spending time with Shelby, I haven't so far. Nice. Okay. Yeah, that's cool. So when do you start? When are you going to start actively using it? So when's your first? Well, we'll start practice July 17.

Aaron  40:33

And that is when will like, really go? Like, like, well, I've like legitimate practices beforehand, at a certain point we won't have we can't practice.

Collin  40:41

And so will it because like I have, as of right

Aaron  40:52

now have like 13 or 14 kids signed up. And we have coaches clinic coming up in July. So we have to go to that we have to attend

Collin  41:02

and get into like a rules meeting. But why? Why some teams one will fully start practicing. Very cool. All right. Nice. Yeah. I'm pretty excited. Brandon, welcome back.

Brandon  41:18

I've been here the whole time we talked about everything's fine.

Collin  41:22

I know. I know.

Brandon  41:25

Terrible internet is traveling north. So I don't know what's going on there.

Collin  41:30

I will just talk really fast. So I gotta flip to page three of the script and we'll jump ahead. No. Oh, goodness. So So, Brian, what have you been up to? Um, what have I been up to? Well, let's see.

Brandon  41:50

I'm not too much right. Went to the Old Fourth of July festivities at the park yesterday. Right pretty good. My friends went into the park. They said it was very nice. We always just like go at night and then go over and sit on the golf course. And just watch fireworks from crossroad. You know, it's fine. Allegedly. There was fun to be had during the day. Very hot yesterday, though. So we're like

Collin  42:22

now kinda been hanging out. been

Brandon  42:30

pulled out the old guitar recently been having some summer guitar time. It's been very nice. Some little doing some that learning some songs messing around there. Since it's summertime. And I feel I feel like it's time to practice my bossa nova guitar skills. Yes, that's right. So that's what we've been doing. We've night playing exciting, extended jazz shapes. Right and bossa nova rhythms.

Collin  43:04

So that's very fun.

Brandon  43:06

I go learning some new chord shapes that are really weird. Like,

Collin  43:10

I don't normally play that. G flat

Brandon  43:13

seven sharp 11 who

Collin  43:15

plays that? Nobody.

Brandon  43:18

bossa nova people apparently his answer actually. What has musicians in their chords? Right.

Collin  43:28

What, what sets apart? What are some unique characteristics of the Bossa Nova style? I think it's the mostly the rhythm. Right? You know,

Brandon  43:39

it's a very Samba II, Brazil II, sort of rhythm pattern they do. Right? So that's just kind of that

Collin  43:48

think like Girl from Ipanema. That,

Brandon  43:54

that guitars in the back counselor. Right, so that's like, it's that it's that rhythm pattern. Okay. So it doesn't mess around with that, because it's kind of fun. Although I do have to restrain my guitar, and that is not ever a thing that I like doing.

Collin  44:13

It's just so tight. Oh, no,

Brandon  44:19

I have to do that. Because my strings are. Well, they're dying. Right? They're like, I can't. I don't remember the last time I put strings

Collin  44:30

on this guitar at all.

Brandon  44:34

So it was very long ago, indeed. Because I haven't played this particular one in

Collin  44:38

a long time. Years and years. So yeah, that's needs to happen like, badly. So that's going to be this week. As soon as they come in, I ordered them

Brandon  44:54

and then have to deal with the world's best customer service which is kind of annoying, right? So if you buy things from Sweetwater hashtag not sponsored, yes, why? Me? Yeah, true? Maybe not after the hear this. They have a very nice customer service people, right like you are as soon as you buy something you are assigned a customer service representative. Right? Yes, it's an email. They give you their extension to do all this stuff, right? That's cool. That's handy, but then they call you. Right? And they're like, Hey, I just saw you ordered something like, Yeah, it did. And I can't talk to you about it because I don't have it yet. Because it'll be here in a week, because I just ordered No, there. And they're all like, Yo, you know, if you got any questions, call me up. Right?

Collin  45:47

off my cool. I don't have any

Brandon  45:51

questions, because I don't have the theme. Right now, this very robust customer service is really useful if you're going to buy like audio equipment you want to buy like big stuff, right? If you're looking for like new headphones, or like audio interfaces, or microphones or like instrument purchases, right, that's cool, right? This is kind of good. Because, you know, if you are buying like guitar stuff, you can talk to you like the guitar people, you know, and they can like walk you through features and pros and cons of different stuff to help you make informed purchasing decisions.

Collin  46:24

Which is really good, right? If you're buying strings

Brandon  46:31

you're buying like, one $8 strings once I yeah, like I don't need that level of customer service for my like, $8 string purchase. I mean, I did buy two sets of strings. So like, maybe that way, like, yeah, right. So for very small purchases.

Collin  46:54

It's like annoying, right? Yeah. Be like, bro, I need just bought some strings.

Brandon  47:01

I just bought some guitar picks.

Collin  47:02

I don't. Don't call me. Right. I

Brandon  47:05

don't need that. Don't need help making a decision that was $5 That's really not what I need my life. If I'm going to make a big purchase. I'll call you first before I buy it. Right? Because you know, sometimes they can like cut you deals and stuff you call it so you know, they can like work magic and they can hook you up with stuff. You know?

Collin  47:25

Like for $5 I kind of don't need to talk to you. Right. I've talked to them about other stuff before, but not this sounds like okay no. Yeah,

Brandon  47:48

so that's the Oh, the other thing I did though.

Collin  47:52

Interview time. Oils ready for this? Oh, I went to movie theater with some friends of ours. Right. Now.

Brandon  48:05

This is part and parcel a review of the movie that I saw. And a review of the theater in which I saw sad movie because this movie theater we went to is like a vintage movie theater.

Collin  48:21

Right? There's gonna be theater was built in 1939. Wow, wham. So it's like, one room. One screen, one showing. And that's what they show. Right? Whatever movies there. That's it. Right? I like that so well. That's

Brandon  48:45

okay. But it's also it's better. It gets better. Wait for it.

Collin  48:49

matinee ticket prices $7. Those are those are not matinee tickets breakfast.

Brandon  48:57

That is this movie theater. That is the matinee ticket price. Seven Bucks. That's super cool. They're like special Tuesday showing

Collin  49:10

$2 How

Brandon  49:17

how do they make money? Because that's not well, I think it's like a family owned situation. Right? So they bought I guess they bought this building. And they kind of like had been renovating it slowly for a few years. Right. I think they unfortunately bought it and like, right before COVID Heaven. So that sucks. But they it's crazy. It's like really old. There's you go inside the insides really cool. They have the sweet ceiling have like a chandelier out there. The ticket booth is out front in the little kiosk thing. Right? They have that to do just sit out there and the little oldest old timey ticket booth. The big marquee thing I think is gone. It's like not They don't have one of those. But they do have this. Like a little sign off. Right? It's really cool. It's called

Collin  50:03

the flick. By the way, all

Brandon  50:07

right, give them some props here. It's like a way down in like Anderson in like McDonough County. It's in the absolute middle of nowhere.

Collin  50:17

Okay. I don't know what a movie theater is even doing with them. Okay. But it is old

Brandon  50:24

timey me and my friends were talking about it. And Susan was there too, right? We're talking about like, there's a whole lot of space in the front. And I think it's an orchestra pit. When you would have live bands playing the soundtrack

50:38

of the movie, because there's this big space down there. with like, a different kind of floor and stuff. It's like, what is what is that? And I was like, Wait a minute.

Brandon  50:51

If this was built in 1939, is that because they would have like other things in here and possibly live music for screenings?

Collin  51:01

Oh, that's crazy. So maybe

Brandon  51:03

that music might have been though I'm not sure. I don't know. Exactly. Can't confirm. But the film enthusiasts out there and let me know how this timeline works. But it's just one theater. It's got like, their website says 300 seats.

Collin  51:19

That seems a bit big.

Brandon  51:24

Yeah. That does not seem like all the chairs it was I didn't count them. But, you know, you know, you can come back next time. Yeah, they

Collin  51:33

have like a, they have

Brandon  51:34

a old movie theater seats in there. So like, they're not like brand new ones. They're like kind of old. They're some of them are yellow and gray. So that kind of tells you

Collin  51:43

their age, right. But the beautiful thing here is they are feet

Brandon  51:49

apart from front to back. So I ate, you sit down, and I sat in my chair, and I fully extended my feet out. And I was nowhere near the seat in front of me.

Collin  52:08

Great.

Brandon  52:09

So not only are they they're sort of like doing the inside, right? The only thing I will say is the sound bit wonky. I don't really know what's going on in there with their sound production.

Collin  52:20

But oh,

Brandon  52:23

it's a little bit hard to hear sometimes. And it wasn't just because it was because of the sound is like not know what's going on in there. It's a little bit weird.

Collin  52:31

But I was really cool,

Brandon  52:33

right? It's very vintage II or old timey or the bathrooms are really crazy and like teeny and small. And like the other exciting thing about this is this sort of vintage aesthetic extends to this snack prices, as well. Really? Oh yeah. Like you can get like a big old popcorn for like $6 So, this is where the real magic happens, right? Because we got like popcorn and drinks and,

Collin  53:08

you know, candy and it was like, not that. Very few dollars.

Brandon  53:15

Yeah, right. I think like the smaller popcorn. Right, you know, what's the smallest like the bag? Right? It was like really small. But it's that's like

Collin  53:23

two or three bucks. That's up. That's good. Yeah. All right.

Brandon  53:32

And like the bucket out and we didn't get the bucket because

Collin  53:34

that's that's crazy, right? Nobody needs that.

Brandon  53:39

But it wasn't that expensive. I was looking at prices. Okay, that's it that like $25 Like, right.

Collin  53:48

Which most places are. Yeah.

Brandon  53:52

So, but it was really cool. Really cool vibes in there. Right? It's really neat.

Collin  53:56

So there wasn't a whole lot of people there. Or we went on a bad day. So it wasn't tons people in there.

Brandon  54:05

But it was really cool. Right? So it's really cool vibe. The flick is awesome. Maybe we'll go back sometimes they have another movie you want to watch.

Collin  54:12

By to go now.

Brandon  54:16

The movie review time. isn't a spoiler free edition. Clearly because the movie still in theaters, right? So don't wanna there's other spoilers on it can be. We went and saw Indiana Jones and the fall of Destiny Dun, dun. I mean, don't

Collin  54:44

ya know,

Brandon  54:47

if you have read anything about this movie on the internet

Collin  54:50

is a very divided place. Right? It's very weird.

Brandon  54:57

Here's listeners here what I here's what I would advise you to do. I

Collin  55:01

don't read any of that garbage. I just can't watch the movie. Right? Because here's the movie. Exceedingly fun to watch. Yes, yes, it is. It's fantastic.

Brandon  55:18

Just like a fun ad in Joe's movie, right? There's some like very deeper subtext going on. There's a lot of like, since this is a allegedly the official last Harrison Ford, Indiana Jones movie. Sure, sure. Yeah. Whenever there's lots of little, like, very subtle references

Collin  55:38

to the other movies by, you know,

Brandon  55:43

kind of like, it's interesting that, you know, like, old Indiana Jones movies, like referenced other movies, you know, kind of like subtle ways. This one references, old Indiana Jones movies. But it's kind of funny, because Harrison Ford is 80 years old.

Collin  55:58

Yeah. You know, what do you do?

Brandon  56:01

Like, there's just like little things that happen that remind you of other movies, nothing like super overt. Right? He does make plans based on like, you know, that one? There's a line in one of the movies where he's like, it's not the years it's the miles, right? Where he's doing something and there's like a younger counterparts, the lady, right? She's like, giving him grief because he can't climb up this thing. And he's like, listen, we ever drank the blood of Cali takes it out? Yeah. I'll just wait here from this is a funny line. I don't know what.

Collin  56:39

Yeah. Good. Call back. It's funny, right? So

Brandon  56:45

there is um, I liked it. I thought it was fun. Right? Is Harrison Ford old? Yes. Does the movie reference this? Yes. All right. Because there's definitely times where like, we'd like in a, in a way that makes sense. Right? Because like old Indiana Jones.

Collin  57:02

I mean, young Indiana Jones would he is like, in a tight spot.

Brandon  57:09

He's gonna, like, fight his way out of it. Right? Yeah. In this movie, 80 year old Indiana Jones is like, supported by much younger people.

Collin  57:20

Right. And it kind of makes sense.

Brandon  57:22

And you can see it's frustrating for him. And like, he has to resolve these situations in other ways. And he has to rely on other people to do that. Right.

Collin  57:31

It makes sense. Kind of. Yeah. So I thought the movie was good. I liked this. It was fun.

Brandon  57:42

It was a nice if it is the last movie, which should be

Collin  57:48

it's a good one.

Brandon  57:48

Right? It's good. It's pretty, like the end is very, like satisfying. I felt satisfied. Right. As an enthusiast of Indiana Jones, I was satisfied with Susan, as like, you know, she has seen them. The she liked the end of the movie. She thought it was good. Right? He thought it was like Oh, yeah. Something? Yeah.

Collin  58:09

There's a lot of other like

Brandon  58:10

nuances that you can discuss here. Maybe we do that later. Not now. But still in theaters. A lot of people

Collin  58:15

watch it. It's tough. But, like the dynamic

Brandon  58:19

between him and the female character in the movie, it's his goddaughter. Right? That's not spoilers that's like,

Collin  58:26

established in the beginning.

Brandon  58:30

At the like at the beginning, like you don't like her? Because she is like, all the things that young Indiana Jones was like very impulsive, doesn't care about stuff like wants the money. And that's the fame. Right? Like, that's not what indie became to represent. Right? Yeah. And so like, that's the dynamic, she reminds you a whole lot of like, what are you very young Indiana Jones would have been? Right? And so that dynamic is playing off of what India is now. You know, like he's he now we know in the really cares about the history and the learning and understanding. And, you know, understanding the past valuing the lessons of history where this girl at the beginning does not. And so that's sort of the conflict of plays, and like her character, has a little character arc,

Collin  59:23

where she undergoes and she kind of

Brandon  59:28

comes to understand in the in the end is like the culmination of that, right?

Collin  59:34

Yeah, it's very nice. Very good. It's cool. I thought it was good.

Brandon  59:39

And the opening part is like, I'll tell you about the opening scene, because it's funny, and it's the opening scene. So if you want to see the movie you have in the five seconds. So start off now and go pause now if you don't want any spoilers. Here's a welcome back everyone. Thank you for Yeah, so the beginning it opens up in Nazi Germany, right? Okay, bear, this is Amaya my friend who is a history teacher. We decided that this is probably supposed to be like Kaliningrad where the Nazis are like evacuating and trying to take a bunch of their treasures with them as big bombed by ballets,

Collin  1:00:17

right? Okay? Indians, they are looking for something, right? And the

Brandon  1:00:25

scene that movie opens with him with this person being brought into the, to the leaders, the generals office or whatever, with the bag over the head, and they sit him down and they rip the bag off. And it's indeed wearing a Nazi uniform. And they're like, we caught this guy sneaking to think because that's what he always would do. And all the other movies he would like, punch somebody out and steal their clothes and then try to sneak into the Yeah, yeah. That's how the movie stars he gets caught like that. So immediately, it's like a reference to Raiders. When he totally did that. Right. And was sneak into the thing like,

Collin  1:01:06

well, that's cool. That's nice. At least Yeah.

Brandon  1:01:10

There's lots of little references. Some of them are more overt than others, right? Like the Have you ever drank the blood of Cali thing,

Collin  1:01:15

which I thought was hilarious. But

Brandon  1:01:18

so subtle references of the references, right? Sometimes it's just like, it reminds you of what they're doing. Right? Like it just sort of like, the situation they're in is like paying homage to

Collin  1:01:33

something that happened before.

Brandon  1:01:34

You don't mean. So like, yeah, that kind of thing. Like reminds you of other indie movies. So,

Collin  1:01:40

Trey, I liked it. I thought it was good. Right?

Brandon  1:01:45

Apparently, half of the internet agrees with me. Half of the internet says this is the worst movie they've ever seen their entire life. But the internet is just grumpy. Okay, that's what we've learned. The internet is just grumpy. They don't like anything. Okay? Nothing. They're like anything. There's even when they post like on Saturday, right? People post pictures of cats. There's always somebody better like,

Collin  1:02:05

this picture sucks. Like, it's a cat in a shoe. That's adorable. Be quiet. It'd be better. So

Brandon  1:02:15

the other thing that I learned about the indie fandom while reading about the movie after I saw it, oh, is that there is no consensus whatsoever on which Indiana Jones movies is the best one.

Collin  1:02:27

Really?

1:02:30

Yeah, it's a very divided based on what I read. And listen, I saw it was an extremely divided the even the original trilogy, I can rightly back that one up because there's things that I watch on YouTube that are aligned to the Last Crusade is the best one don't and it was the best one. But it usually everyone talks like can agree that like the second one is not everyone's favorite. But then it just all kind of chaotic. I can definitely 100% agree with that no one can figure out or decide what is the best.

Brandon  1:03:02

Yeah, now you did hit the nail there on the head, because Temple is the most divisive one of all time, right? I saw lists that put it as like, people's second favorite movie. And I saw a list put it behind crystal skull as like the worst movie anyone's ever seen.

Collin  1:03:22

It's so strange. That's bizarre. It's so weird.

Brandon  1:03:28

There's like no consensus whatsoever. It's just like, every single person has a different perspective about how good Indiana Jones movies are. And so that's why you should very if you read about the Indiana Jones movie should take those those musings with a grain of salt because you can be assured that your opinion is probably not the same as the person that wrote that. So

Collin  1:03:52

that's a fair point. Fair point. Yeah, it's really weird.

Brandon  1:03:58

But my take is I thought it was a fun movie to watch. I enjoyed it. It did not the movies like over two hours long. It did not feel like a two hour movie. Right? Really? Yeah. It doesn't really feel that way. It does a lot of like, jumps. Like, you know, if you like indie movies are like, here's this action thing. Here's this action thing. Here's this action thing, right? It does a pretty good job of that right? Now it's Harrison Ford, again, being 80 years old. So like one of them is like a car chase scene. Okay, still a lot. That's good, right? It's a way to move the action around and he's like driving a little tucked up motorcycle thing. Right. There's another, you know, some Chasey games, there's stuff there's blah, blah, whatever. And then there's there'll be like that. It's very indie, like, the thing and action sequence. You know, characters talking action sequence can't really it's very like that. But it makes sense for an indie movie because that's what they're all like. Yeah,

Collin  1:04:56

the only problem I have with this movie is The way that

Brandon  1:05:01

the bad guy there's movie definitely has the trope where the bad guys magically know where,

Collin  1:05:07

indeed his friends are. All the time. Right? They can have that. Yeah. Because they talked to the screenwriter, right? They know. Yeah. Just like,

Brandon  1:05:15

they just like, show places you like, how

Collin  1:05:16

did you? What? I mean, I know you're like a bad guy. But also, could you give me like

Brandon  1:05:25

one throwaway line of dialogue telling me how you knew they were? That was, that's all I need.

1:05:31

Because it is indeed like, Oh, Dr. Jones, you're so predictable. I knew that blah, blah, okay, boom,

Collin  1:05:37

make sense? Got it. Other than that,

Brandon  1:05:39

there's a couple times the bad guys show up. You're like, how did you know that? We didn't even know where we were going. And we were watching the movie. Like, what is this? Other than that, it's fun, right? And again, you want the movie to kind of go beat beat beat to beat so I understand why you do that. That makes sense. You know, from a writing perspective, but it's kind of like,

Collin  1:06:04

what other than that little small gripe, that's fun. So go watch Indiana Jones, and then re watch all the other ones. And then yell on the internet and make your like, now you can just discuss kindly with each other. About why

Brandon  1:06:29

Last Crusade is actually the best Indian toast maybe. Okay, well,

1:06:34

there we go. Oh, God.

Brandon  1:06:37

Because, you know, that's my that's my number one. Number two reasons why number one, yeah. When we were little, we watch that one the most. So I have strong, nostalgic feelings towards that movie, which people on the internet, you have to understand what you have our strong nostalgic feelings for Indiana Jones, not actual quantifiable evidence that one movie is better than the other one. You have nostalgia and a personal preference.

Collin  1:07:03

Calm down. Number two.

Brandon  1:07:06

I like that movie because the dynamic between Indiana Jones and his dad between Harrison Ford and Sean Connery is so good. It's so funny.

Collin  1:07:16

genuinely one of the best relationships.

Brandon  1:07:19

Like it. I like it so much. It's really really

Collin  1:07:22

good. It's very well done it like, yeah, you just you get to see that and you're like, I believe these people are our father and son. Like I really believe that. Yeah.

Brandon  1:07:32

Even though Sean Connery really wasn't that much older than Harrison Ford and also really funny, but it's

Collin  1:07:39

acting so it's okay. Called acting people. Yeah,

Brandon  1:07:43

it's Harrison Ford. It's Sean Connery together. So like, it's got to be great. Right? Like, how was that not? It's okay. That's why I picked that one as my favorite. Because I enjoy Harrison Ford and Sean Connery

Collin  1:07:59

on screen at the same time. Fair enough. Blam. Okay. Well, now that we've enraged, at least a quarter of the internet

Brandon  1:08:10

is true. So one you're typing furiously in the comments.

Collin  1:08:15

Temple Of Doom is the best movie can only do so much that's that's what I learned. I can only sorry. Sorry. Oh, well, that's good. Well, I'm glad you got to have that experience. Sounds like it was very good, like just experiential kind of thing to go to.

Brandon  1:08:36

Yeah, I think it was. It was fun. All the reader kind of Indiana Jones movies where it said in like the 1960s too, so it's kind of weird. Get the 60s vibe. old movie theater.

Collin  1:08:47

Kind of cool, right? Nice little good movie to see the old movie theater I think

1:08:57

sorry, well,

Collin  1:08:58

I went on a walk earlier by them. Inhaled something probably with wings and I haven't been able to breathe right since so I'm having to mute myself like crazy and I'm drinking some tea so just okay. Collins eating

Brandon  1:09:11

bugs. Oh not on like Temple of Doom.

1:09:14

Oh, God um

Collin  1:09:18

yeah. Oh goodness. Air Air man. What did you do? What did you do for the fourth?

Aaron  1:09:25

So sidenote, I realized that it was my headphones because I was using wireless ones and so I had to go on a panic run to see if I could find some headphones that were actually like, like a plug in so I have some quote unquote legitimate headphones now okay.

Brandon  1:09:43

You do sound better.

Collin  1:09:44

I will tell you that Yeah. The other ones I although I do like the orange just like this is how it sounded to me when you guys talking. I don't know why. Yeah. And so that half the time I was like, not good. Yeah, of course. So with us, this week's kind of been a, I don't even know what we did all this week to be completely honest with you. We so Shelby and one of her work friends and her husband and myself, we went to the Tulsa drillers game for Fourth of July, after we kind of settled around all day. We then went up to or down to Tulsa for not, like super expensive, we got like really good seats. And so we just kind of just sat and

1:10:45

watched the baseball game. And it was probably one of the best like in person baseball games I've ever seen. Because it was like the drillers were down and then came back and it was just it was just a really truly baseball game.

Collin  1:11:01

And you want

Brandon  1:11:03

to watch the only exciting baseball game ever you're telling me

Collin  1:11:07

so the the hype of it was that everyone was saying that this is like the the best. It's like the biggest and the longest Fourth of July. fireworks show that the drillers are that Tulsa was putting on in general so we were like, Oh, of course we gotta go down. So we went down watched it and friggin long game although they had low Fischbach thing going freakin long. And so after the 11th inning game over the drillers one and then it just kept like prolonging it. It's like, Hey, guys, are you ready for fireworks? Oh, before that, like, Oh, come

1:11:49

on. We're all like pretty, like sunburned and sweaty, and we're just tired of

Collin  1:11:57

the the fireworks went off after they did like this water burger fundraiser kind of thing. And it like this thing lasted like 20 minutes of just like pure fireworks. And like, if you don't realize like, how, like, oh, man, we're sitting so close. But like, you're sitting really close to the stuff that's falling. And so yeah, we had some stuff fall on us a few times. But it it was really good. Like, because yeah, we were so close friends that we thought they were from Mexico. And so they like, yeah, they have like every day. Like, oh, this was like, way more intense than what we thought it was. Yeah. Cool is like get like we didn't explain like that. But it was just it was just wanted to get experience all that with them. In a group setting. The day or the weekend before that. We went up to where I originally taught at my first year teaching OSHA later where they put on a eu, like Fourth of July

1:13:21

thing, which is weird, because it's only like a town of like 700 people. But like, they go like all out. And like everything that they do. And it's like, oh, you know, a few 100 People know this thing has like 1000s of people show up in this little like, town in Oklahoma. That like it's just you know, throngs of people, and they have like a huge softball tournament. And it is an experience like that I've never like Fathom before saying oh, you know, just like a little little tiny town. No big deal. But no, they these people go

Collin  1:13:58

crazy. Crazy. With their Fourth of July like they do not care. Like how crazy it gets. Like there's people like they started playing softball at like 8am When all day and then they didn't get done until like, four in the morning. The next day. No, that's too much. And so they

1:14:23

they go all out and I'm like, oh, yeah, it's not that big a deal that no, there's like, there's a dude that drove for now for like Minnesota. And I'm like, Do you are you from here? It's like nobody wants to play softball. Like

Collin  1:14:38

are you like why?

Brandon  1:14:40

I did not know the power of softball was that strong? Be honest.

1:14:45

I think it was just, it's just something that they do every year. And it just keeps getting bigger and bigger. And I guess even when I taught there, like I didn't go to it was like oh no, no small Like rules handling was probably not gonna be that big like, no, like this place goes hand. Although there was a lot of people who were disgruntled that the fireworks were not, quote unquote as big as usual,

Collin  1:15:13

or what they were in the past. I still thought it was a good show. And so I was like, Well, I mean, it's still like pretty good. Like, no, no, it's not as good as it was like last year. But I a tiny town in the middle of nowhere Oklahoma, like people turn out for this thing. I was definitely disappointed.

Brandon  1:15:34

And from what I know about tiny towns is that's what they say about every fourth of July fireworks show ever is

1:15:40

wasn't as good as last year. That's what they always say, it doesn't matter how good the show was never as good as

Collin  1:15:45

it was last year. It like,

Aaron  1:15:49

these, these people, like I said, they're playing because they're, it's we it's broken up because there's a park. And then there's like, two or three, like, really weirdly nice softball fields just kind of like tucked away, like in the back. And people are, you know, cooking and shooting up like little mini fireworks in the park. And then there's like a whole complete like circus of softball games going on. And it slowpitch softball, so it's like, older people playing it by adults who are just, like, overly competitive, playing it.

Collin  1:16:23

So it's it just fascinating to watch this whole dynamic of people that will, will drive hours, they can play a softball game in the middle of nowhere, or Oklahoma. So I thought that was was pretty interesting. And, and I'm glad I got to experience that and my first small town for the July. So that was pretty neat. To go through, especially seeing some old students like oh, you're a sophomore High School now you are gigantic, is when I saw you, you were just an elevated

Aaron  1:17:08

that's kind of neat to go back and experience on that. Although it's just like, I don't want to go see people.

Collin  1:17:12

People are gross. That's what

1:17:17

we did Friday, or did over the weekend. And then it was I think everyone up one day and water the fields. And then it's like, there's also on Colin gray matter this over a little low that it's been raining weirdly a lot. And so I haven't really had to like a air of much of the fields is like oh, it's actually you know, doing its thing.

Brandon  1:17:42

So I'll probably don't care but itself. Yeah, I'll probably go up there

1:17:45

like tomorrow or something

Collin  1:17:46

mo because it's muta I need to be like down like a lot. So I might go up there tomorrow and do some of that for a little bit. See if I can get the sprinkler thing to work and then follow today up there our to be done.

Brandon  1:18:05

We're gonna do a slight Oklahoma reference but anytime somebody talks about grass, I have this very specific thing in my mind that triggers and it's that that dang high powered Kentucky blue hem super turf out that a foot from that super old Roy D Mercer stuff, guys.

Collin  1:18:27

Oh, my gosh. Wow. Wow,

Brandon  1:18:30

that's a bingo card. deep cut there ladies and gentlemen.

Collin  1:18:35

deep cut. I don't I don't even know how to explain that to people. That Holy crap. I will. I will say I am learning a lot about is horticulture horticulture. The study of like grass and plants what does that call? Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's like

1:19:01

I'm learning way more than I actually like ever thought I would. Because I was walking around with one of the coaches up there and they're like, see this this is blah blah blah. It will kill and do all this kind of stuff. It is this crash right here

Collin  1:19:15

like that was you know alive. I

Aaron  1:19:22

I have a notebook of like, somewhere I think it's a bar of all the different grasses that are like in the area and like the fertilizer that goes with and what the spray on certain things and people like asking me questions like hey, we ordered this brass like what it's worth?

Collin  1:19:39

I don't know. I didn't know there's more than one grass. I'm sorry. I thought it was all grass. I am learning so much. It's a little panicky sometimes but not not in any any panic yet. So Well, I mean you know who else was a bit panicky at times? Was certain Bilbo who? Bilbo you segue? dadgummit ah encountered a few things on his travels in chapters four and five of Thrive some goblins is goblins. Is it before then some some trolls or some mountain tours? Right? Oh yeah. skipped over like after they're the weird like, what's in st Chapter?

Brandon  1:20:45

Just the beginning of the chapter? Well, that's

Collin  1:20:46

true beginning in the end. Fine, fine. Yeah,

Brandon  1:20:53

so last left our intrepid hero in his party of many of the people as they were traveling right through the going through the Blue Mountains. Right? To which humorously Bill was like, Oh, is that the mountain bike? No, no, we have

Collin  1:21:14

to go there, like horribly offended by that. I was like, yes. That is perfect.

Brandon  1:21:21

I mean, historically, there were dwarves in the Blue Mountains. Okay, it's fine. They're in their home there. I don't remember which dwarves it was. It wasn't endurance folk, though. So Billy doesn't know Bilbo sits at home. Right as we established in a hole in the ground.

Collin  1:21:41

Right. So again,

Brandon  1:21:46

this is a much different chapter than the last chapter.

Collin  1:21:49

Chapter Three is like, short and weird and strange.

Brandon  1:21:55

And there's just sort of expositing things you like. Like happens to know everything. Just fine. moves the story along a little bit.

Collin  1:22:05

As the as discussed that is meant to move the story forward, like hardcore. Yeah, and that's just a function

Brandon  1:22:16

of the narration, right? Because the narration is all this book, but the first person narration but we get to this chapter, and this one is, this is a weird one. Right? It's kind of a weird chapter because we do start off strange,

Collin  1:22:29

right? You start off with some sort of very strange, like, thunderstorm, right? But like, not really a thunderstorm. Apparently. Dun dun da. Oh. Yeah, well, well, but wait a minute. Are you? Yeah. Are you talking about the thunderstorm in chapter five? No, no. For over hill and under Hill. Right. But, but the chapter? Yeah, that's women. The weird thunderstorms. Mmm. When they're up in the mountains. Did I miss something here? Wait, I

1:23:15

because it's the it's the

Collin  1:23:19

mountain stone mountain are the guys. Yeah, they're early boulders at each other. Yeah, that's all right, right. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I am. Wow, I am. I'm way off my game today. I'm so sorry. I'm here. It's

Brandon  1:23:35

picking up what I'm putting down here. Thank

Collin  1:23:38

you Erin for shouted. i Yes. All right. I understand. Yeah, cuz we're an overhead Underhill.

1:23:47

Yeah, yeah.

Collin  1:23:48

Okay, I got this.

Brandon  1:23:49

I'll stop talking. But are you continue talking now they know where we are. Because this is like a really weird just like side thing. It's just like, oh, by the way, I believe the actual line is weighed more than a thunderstorm. A thunder battle. You're like what? Yes. Heck, yeah. Okay. Are you on about it was sweating. You can't tell if it's, like, hyperbolic, or if there are actually giant storm trolls, like, fleeing things each other, which is what it seems to imply, right? Yes, it's very weird. The Giants gamifying and shouting all over the mountainsides

Collin  1:24:32

what's I don't know. This is yeah, this was definitely an interesting like it's part of that world building of like, didn't like have one a weird explanation for for the you know, Thunder clashes and thunderstorms but also a well obviously, right? Sure. He may have natural thunderstorms, but also there are giants that throw rocks at each other. Right. That's just part of where these sounds come from. Obviously,

Brandon  1:24:59

it reminds me We have

Collin  1:25:03

Rip Van Winkle.

Brandon  1:25:04

Right when they talk about the sound of thunder is the little dudes playing nine pins in the mountains. Yeah, that's what it reminds me of. That's the illusion. I don't know if that is intended, but that's what I think about. Because like you said, like, it isn't an alternate explanation are actually trolls and giant stone columns, flinging things each other. I remember when Colin favorite movie, The Hobbit came out, and this part is in there. A lot of people were like, mad. You know, they're like, that's not really what he meant. He like, did you read this page? Do you see the same page? This is literally what it says. Okay. You can be mad at Peter Jackson for a lot of things. You can't really be mad at him for that because Tolkien literally wrote, like, right here.

Collin  1:25:51

He did. He did. Yeah, there's no getting around that this part like this. It just is what it is. People like me

Brandon  1:25:57

you don't like that part. You think it's weird, but okay. And I wrote it down. Yeah, he's, it's, it's in the book, guys. They were hurling rocks at one another for a game and catching them and tossing them down in the darkness where they smashed among the trees far below or splintered into little bits

Collin  1:26:14

with a bang. Yep. Twin. Shredded. Well, when you read it like that, it makes it sound like it's supposed to be there. Right? Yeah, right. Exactly. It's just not fun. I'd love to I want to be angry about this.

Brandon  1:26:31

When he peeked out the lightning flashes. He saw that across the valley.

Collin  1:26:34

The stone giants were out. They go right. Regardless, this event

Brandon  1:26:43

is what causes them to seek shelter. Right? Because clearly whatever's going on outside. You don't want to be there.

Collin  1:26:50

Indeed, indeed, a bad place to be. must flee for the quickness. Okay, so we have to find some shelter. Because they do, right, unfortunately.

Brandon  1:27:02

Well, yeah. Well, that's where as we tasked Fili and Kili with this.

Collin  1:27:09

You know, which is a plan? Yes. Come back.

Brandon  1:27:14

We found a dry cave. They said not far on the corner. And Gandalf sensitive.

Collin  1:27:20

Have you thoroughly explored the cave?

Brandon  1:27:24

We like? Yeah, yeah. It's tiny. It's fine. It's okay. Don't worry about it.

Collin  1:27:28

I, I love this next line. It's part of this story. Like it's just like a great piece of life advice just in general. Like, it's like, no, it's possible doesn't go far back. And then it goes. This, of course, is the dangerous part of caves. You don't know how far they go back sometimes or a passage may lead to, or what is waiting for you inside? This. This is the dangerous part of caves. You don't know where they go. Like I just I love that so much. It's like Yes. What wonderful words of advice.

Brandon  1:28:01

Yeah, it's some good use of some foreshadowing, right? Like, Gandalf doesn't believe them. They're like, Oh, that's fine. The narrator being like, you never know what caves though, right?

Collin  1:28:13

Yeah. Oh, no. If this were being Yeah, if this were being narrated by, oh, I don't know. Oh, gosh. Oh, my name just this, you know, if the if the narrator would hear just be like, it was in fact, not okay. Right.

Brandon  1:28:33

That's Morgan Freeman. Morgan Freeman's voice. Yes. In fact,

1:28:38

the cave was in fact, not safe. Right. Right. Go inside the land, all this stuff. Get it all laid out because it's all soggy, you know?

Collin  1:28:50

And then you go to bed. Right? Where Bilbo

Brandon  1:28:53

dreams that the floor of the cave was giving away and he was slipping beginning to fall down into goodness knows what.

Collin  1:28:59

And then he woke up.

Brandon  1:29:03

And the floor was giving away.

Collin  1:29:06

And he was indeed slipping down. Who knows? He could bless him with a dream after

1:29:12

all.

Collin  1:29:16

Yes, unfortunately, his nightmare became true. Yes, we go down.

Brandon  1:29:23

We have swore goblins singing.

Collin  1:29:26

Everyone loves goblins. Right. Well, you have you left out the part where Gandalf slips away. Because of course, because Gandalf is actually a burglar, right?

Brandon  1:29:35

Apparently was the burglar all along.

Collin  1:29:38

He was the emcee needed to hire. They just did

Brandon  1:29:41

not get off slipping away. And they did like the biggest one by far in his party, right? He's only like,

Collin  1:29:51

all person. He's also a wizard. I mean, it's true. You gotta give me this little. Give him a little bit of props for that right like is a lot of these can be explained as him going. Wizard. Okay, gotcha. I see I see I see

Brandon  1:30:10

pushes up glasses

Collin  1:30:11

actually

Brandon  1:30:12

thinks that it's more than a wizard Angel whatever it is angel but it's fine. It's a Meyer anyway that's not important right now. Nobody reading this in 1937 knew that

Collin  1:30:24

no and we're not supposed to so it's fine people it's fine it's okay, it's not necessary.

Brandon  1:30:33

Yeah. So again I'll sneaks off and we get brought to the great Goblin King.

Collin  1:30:39

Oh no.

Brandon  1:30:41

Oh no he doesn't like Dwarves is in his house, right we do here get some more of that just like random sort of like a sprinkling of a larger story because it's like you can't you kind of get here like nope goblins and doors don't like each other they mentioned, like the great battle of Moria a few times before this right it's like throw it in there the gret the goblin wars like oh yeah, the goblin wars and so you the reader like what? Goblin Picard.

Collin  1:31:16

Now wait a minute. Hi. No, hold on.

Brandon  1:31:20

Tell me about you didn't tell me there was goblin wars that sort of like brush it over like yeah, everyone knows about the goblin wars

Collin  1:31:29

like I don't know about that and then have some

Brandon  1:31:41

more like really? A little too much over explaining about why the goblins don't like the sword that Warren has. Oh,

Collin  1:31:52

sure. Right.

Brandon  1:31:54

Yeah, a little bit too much talk about like how they immediately see the sword and know that it is a first age sword from Gondolin Forge to fight goblins and in the war against Morgoth. And like that's

1:32:07

how they have this?

Collin  1:32:09

I don't know, right? Yeah, it's I don't know what kind of aggressive like songs are passed down from one Diablo into another? Like I just I don't know, but it's very confusing for me. I

Brandon  1:32:25

mean, I don't know how long goblins live. I don't know if they live as long as elves do. But this This sword has been in a troll horde for who knows how long. Right? And they're just like, oh, yeah, it's Oakcrest. The Great Sword of Gondolin fours in the First Age to fight goblins.

Collin  1:32:45

Like what? Because

1:32:47

obviously you know that like what is? Right.

Collin  1:32:50

Right. We what goblin was standing there with a little history book waiting like oh, now. I didn't want him warning

1:32:58

you guys.

Brandon  1:32:59

I mean, maybe it's because it's glowing blue. Right. Maybe goblins? No,

Collin  1:33:04

probably that's a dead giveaway. Yeah.

Brandon  1:33:06

Goblins know that. The only reason that this these particular swords glow in the presence of robbing an orc kind is because the bellows of Gondolin had

Collin  1:33:14

such a hatred for orcs and Morgoth. Right.

Brandon  1:33:18

We know in Middle Earth, that whenever you craft a thing, part of you gets put into the thing. Right? Yes, that's foreshadowing for later as well. But the reason that they go it was a fun fact for you. If you don't know, the reason that they glow blue is because Gondolin so hated the orcs and goblins that this hatred is manifested into the sword that it glows every time it's in the presence of one. Fun fact you can call your friends at dinner parties with that one.

Collin  1:33:50

Interesting. Yes, yes, yes. Yes. Yeah, there's that. There's a common theme, people glowing with rage with. I mean, throughout the rest of this book, like that does come up a couple more times of like, their glut. Like there's a there's a physical manifestation of an internal feeling or attribute also.

Brandon  1:34:15

Yeah, that is interesting. Because that is like, that becomes a fantasy trope, basically, from now on. Right? Yeah. Like this sort of like, that kind of thing is like it's common and fantasy now. It basically starts here, right? This

Collin  1:34:34

is the first sprinklings of that. Right?

Brandon  1:34:39

And that's again, that's kind of what Tolkien kind of thought about. Right? I don't know if this is a metaphor for like, a lot of things probably like I don't know if he thought about himself in this way, which is kind of interesting thing to think about, like Did he think about he's putting a lot of himself in these books, as well, because he is whether or not he sometimes he refuted in light interviews and letters. He's like, No, it's not. Blah, blah, you're like, did you read what you wrote? There? They are, because sounds a bit like a wee bit, you know, he's always like, Oh, yes, this is devoid of Catholicism or This doesn't have anything to do with my experience in world war one you'd like. Maybe not consciously.

Collin  1:35:25

But,

Brandon  1:35:27

you know, when you're talking about these big battles, and I know that you fought in the Battle of the Somme, you know? Yeah, I don't know, again, when we talk about the relationship between Frodo and Sam. Right. And we talk about like, the relationship between like World War One British officers and the people that served into them, like, Oh,

Collin  1:35:52

you're telling me there's

1:35:53

no connection at all told him? I don't believe you.

Collin  1:35:58

Don't even ask, are you doing? Yeah. Aaron, how did anyway, your and how did your? Your your version? handle this? I was interested because you're, you're reading a slightly different take on this, right. Yeah, so my graphic novel. So when I got this years ago with the Barnes and Noble in Springfield, this was like the first real Vulcan piece I've ever read. And so I had no idea

Aaron  1:36:43

that this was a part of like an expanded universe or different kinds of lore or anything remotely close.

Brandon  1:36:50

And so that's okay. Because you're not supposed to. Because when people read The Hobbit for the first time, they didn't know either.

Collin  1:36:54

Yeah. But my mind's weird. So it has like, the narration part, which, I guess it from the way you guys said things is from, like, The Hobbit itself, and then like, the dialogue that the characters have are also a part of it. But when you guys are talking, because you're on We're on chapter, what are you all, for? Or for and what page? Does these cover?

Brandon  1:37:22

Like? 50 Something my pay my 52? Okay, 52 to 64 chapter four.

Aaron  1:37:29

So I'm on page right now, where you hold up the garland cleaver? It is 35 Yeah, the illustration of it, especially when I first read this, I was like, uh, you know, I, they're, the goblins are green. They're group tests. They have sharp teeth. They're deformed or disfigured. And so it's like, oh, this is clearly like, not a good vibe that the doors are going through and like bad by awful

Collin  1:37:56

Yeah, and Donald here he's, he's very light. He's looking consider like, Oh, we're

Aaron  1:38:03

we were on a journey to visit our relatives who live on the east side of these truly hospitable mountains. Oh, yes. He's a liar. Oh, truly tremendous one and so online does not go well. Yeah. And so it like it's pulling up all this stuff. And then the next part where the skabe it's like immediate action, there's fire. There's, you know, explosives because they have with this it has like, slash them, beat them, bite them. mash them. And then like, all fire goes out. And then it's like, yeah, that's it here. Oh, really? And you don't you don't you can't tell that again. Oh, wait, what?

Collin  1:38:43

Yeah, so real quick on that. Token here inserts, something that I don't know how to categorize where he says the yells yammering, croaking, jibber jabbering. How was growls and curses shrieking and striking that followed were beyond description. Several 100 wild cats and wolves being roasted slowly alive together would not have compared with him. I'm sorry, what?

Brandon  1:39:07

That is a bit of an an odd way to describe that. Right? Like you should be familiar with what that sounds like.

Collin  1:39:15

It's slowly roasting cat and wolves. It's sorry, Aaron, you can continue and I was just like, Oh my gosh. Oh, no, you're Yeah, it's,

1:39:29

I don't get into any of that part.

Collin  1:39:32

But it's,

1:39:35

I mean, like you, you can definitely tell I mean, mostly from the illustrations that this is a

1:39:42

part of the book where is it? People are comfortable is, you know, completely by surprise, but it's definitely got the whole, you know, the expressions of everything really sells it for me because of All these people are clearly bad. And that's like you're supposed to feel sincere for her Bilbo and me he even says oh dear, and then like, you see, but in this illustration the sword has actually read

Collin  1:40:15

what he says glow, I believe yes. Right so in in this is that's all it is. It's going red.

Brandon  1:40:24

Yeah so it's in the movies it goes blue in the book it just says glow. That's all it says it doesn't give you a color or anything

1:40:32

with these next few pages we got 3637 38 There's a lot of

Collin  1:40:39

greens reds, the doors are wearing they become more in this they look more like gnomes than anything they have like Bobby has no clothes and then there's a long beard or age and so there's a lot of vibrant colors and then the next part you know there's there's candles in this blue where Bilbo guesses disappearance is like world shrink and it's a lot of darker colors, grays and then he finds something and that's the next chapter. We're almost there. Yeah, no, we're not going out that part yet. Okay, so but

Brandon  1:41:19

that's chapter five. Mine doesn't have chapters. I'm telling you he's into why anyway, now we're on to Chapter Five

Collin  1:41:28

well okay, so cut cut to yes they run away Gandalf springs with light and the great cause this this will come I know that well this we don't know what it right now. But this was a poor choice. I mean, it was needed to be done but the Goblin King is beheaded there in front everybody right this

1:41:48

Yeah. All the government's out that I'm sure and then they run away any mine. Oh, mine he has slashed through the stomach with a gray NG sound a CH R a and g OD or string and then other governments like Glamdring we are lost. We are do the for the pho hammer beater. And then it it has an image of Gandalf stand thing called me quick. And then they scamper away?

Collin  1:42:21

Well, yeah, in this one, and then and then they there's a funny thing where Dory is having to carry Bilbo out here and he's complaining that he has to carry Bilbo and it's this you know, it's like a you know, you don't have to carry and that's why I can't run as far. But yes, then they delve down and

Brandon  1:42:41

Bilbo kind of in another theme for all the Lord of the Rings. Bilbo falls. That's a recurring theme in all tokens where somebody's falling off of something all the time.

Collin  1:42:54

But what does he do specifically? Box his head at bonked his head? No,

Brandon  1:43:04

it's treacherous. And now.

Collin  1:43:06

We're a helmet. Yes, right.

Brandon  1:43:09

But now when Bilbo opened his eyes, he wondered if he had or if it was just dark as if it wasn't them shut. Right. He is down in the within, you know, trying to figure out where he is. Right. And then kind of Yeah, like Aaron said he just sort of like nonchalantly stumbles upon just a little something something, you know, seems inconsequential. For now, data, you know. I also liked it. The first thing he did was like he felt to see if his pipe was broken up, right. Well, it was like priorities like oh, is my pipe. Okay. Okay, good. My tobacco study. Okay, good. All right. I'm good.

Collin  1:43:55

I have everything I need.

Brandon  1:43:58

Yeah. Tell me again. How how that's not a self insert character. pokin

Collin  1:44:03

tell me how that's hot. Okay. Not necessary train. You know, saying

Brandon  1:44:21

Yeah, somewhere around here.

Collin  1:44:23

He just sort of finds a little scene, right? Just trying to find the page actually happens on here.

Brandon  1:44:33

Where we have a big it's just like very inconsequential. It's just not even going anywhere. It's just like, oh,

Collin  1:44:39

yeah, I'll do this. Yeah, right here.

Brandon  1:44:43

It was a turning point in his career, but he did not know it. He put the ring in his pocket. Also the thinking certainly do not seem of any particular use at the moment. Don't go

Collin  1:44:55

much further. And I love this theme that comes up of like this This theme have a chance or in some cases, like a predestination kind of thing, in life or throughout the story of these very small inconsequential events that, quote unquote, just happen, right? They just happen to characters that they're just in the right place at the right time, or, or they they meet the right person or something happens. And it sets so many things in motion. Right that I'm now reading into, like, knowing the the later lore, like you look back at this one minute and be like, Wow, this was not even connected, or was it too all of this other stuff? But look what happened, look where it led, what you learned later, what we learned much later, right? And what you would not know in 1937.

Brandon  1:45:48

And what Tolkien didn't know when he wrote this, because we must mention again, that this chapter, is the most rewritten part of The Hobbit. Right? After Tolkien is famous for rewriting things. Right. But after the Lord of the Rings came out, what he had to do was go back to the Hobbit and sort of retro actively fix some stuff so that they set together or more seamlessly, right? Because originally, he was not intending to write that. Right? It was, this was just gonna be he's gonna write this and be like, Okay, here you go, whatever. I'm gonna sell this book, I need some money to work on myself. Merlini a whole lot, right? And there's publishers all like, tell us more about hobbits. And he's like, I don't have any more harvest stories. I am literally fresh. Yeah. So what we later learn is that, you know, whenever it says, He picks it up without even thinking about it. That's code for he didn't really have a choice in the matter, right? Yeah, thing was speaking to him. But he didn't realize that at the time, right. He just thought it was like, Oh, hey, this is cool. could pick it up, right? It's like, you just find someone the grannies put your pocket? Yeah, of course. Sweat does, like think kids do, right? You know, all the time at school kids would be like, Yo, like, Where'd you get that? Like, I'm a fan of the hallway. And you just decided to pick it up by it's a rubber band. What are you doing? Why are you doing?

Collin  1:47:19

Why not? I wanted it. It was my birthday was my present, right? That's Yes. Anyway, and I'm

Brandon  1:47:32

gonna be interested to hear some more from here and here minute because I want to know what his looks like here, but we go down below kind of stumbles his way down. He finds some water. And then Bilbo realizes he is not alone. Down here in the bottom of the mountain.

Collin  1:47:53

Oh, there is

Brandon  1:47:54

another division of these dark halls.

Collin  1:47:57

Oh my gosh, what a creepy way to set this up. Hold on. I had this highlighted for a moment where he's describing the kind of Oh yeah, where he would write this. There are strange things living in the pools and lakes in the hearts of mountains fish whose father's time and goodness knows only how many years ago he'd never swim out again with their eyes grew bigger and bigger. Even in the tunnels and caves goblins have made themselves or other things live in living unbeknown to them that have sneaked in from outside to lie up in the dark. I just, he's just like, this ancient, deep, dark secret unknown. It's just Oh, it's so wonderful. Like, I just love it so much.

Brandon  1:48:52

Yeah, it's a good little scene setting. It's just a couple of sentences. But you're kind of like, oh, because you're like, Okay, there's this thing down here. What else is down here? I don't know. Nobody

1:49:03

knows. Really?

Collin  1:49:04

Yeah. Yeah, finds and he needs golf. Gollum done it now. Though, he always called himself my precious beard habit.

Brandon  1:49:22

But you know, whatever.

Collin  1:49:24

Early there's nothing to that right.

1:49:26

No, no, it's fine

1:49:36

so we get down here. Gollum. You know, because he lives in a cave in the dark and, you know, wants to eat Bilbo because you know, he looks tastier than goblins.

Collin  1:49:52

It turns out compliment I think, yes.

Brandon  1:49:55

Maybe you're tastier than a goblin. That's probably a good thing.

1:49:58

Right? Yeah,

Collin  1:50:00

I mean, it's not a bad thing. I guess like it's not a just a weird thing though, right?

Brandon  1:50:08

There's a bit of weird thing. So Bilbo tries to talk to, you know, he's trying to figure out how to get through to this very strange creature that he's speaking with. Right. So he's trying to ask him how to get out of here. And, you know, Gollum sides. Um, he's really hungry. Um, but he does like riddles. And he, you know, goblins don't play riddled games. So,

Collin  1:50:39

maybe this Bilbo character will play a game with it.

Brandon  1:50:44

So he decides to play a game of riddles. Right, or other high stakes game of riddles, I must say. Because the conditions are thus when and I will show you the door lose and I eat you. Which play for keeps there. You know, Bilbo. I feel like

Collin  1:51:06

yeah, that's not that the strip, not that the steak stakes weren't already high. But like this took it. It was just like, boom, like, way, way up. All of a sudden,

1:51:21

it went to 11 Real quick, right?

Collin  1:51:23

I did, right? It was, it was crazy. I mean, that crazy. It just, it really amped it up in his office. I was like, Oh, this is a like, this is really all of a sudden, just personally like before, it was a kind of a group. And it was like, Oh, I'm caught up in this and now but this is a very like, one on one staring in the face as best you can in the gloom in the dark by the like, at the heart of the mountain like immediate personal terror, like personal personal terror. Yeah, I mean, getting

Brandon  1:51:51

eaten by a weird dude that lives on an island in the middle of underground, like under a mountain. pretty terrifying. Right? I'm pretty sure.

Collin  1:52:00

Yeah, not the way anyone wants to go. Oh, sure. Aaron,

Brandon  1:52:03

how is your book at this spot? What is it doing?

Collin  1:52:07

Like? What's it reading like here? Or, like when it introduced the dollar. So it has the same part where? And, of course, but the way it introduces on it. First of all, when I was younger, this is like the one thing because it shows in one panel it shows Bilbo you know, there's a lake tavern. And there's a little island, and then the next panel underneath it there. So it's all black. Dark purple and light blue water. There's so there's a bigger sitting. Next panel, which was bigger, closer, but it shows like, in the first panel, it shows like, Oh, that looks like a bubble and beverage. But the next panel will be like hunched over. And like, like, reach the sky. Like I turn back and like go paddling for the first time. And illuminating every Yeah, it was kind of first when I was younger, it like it was super free. Again, I didn't know what a goal was. I don't know what anything of this was. Oh, you know, in the art of graphic novels. That's a really good job. That's terrifying. Thank you so much. And like with this, it shows kind of

1:53:43

fear that Bilbo has but then he becomes comfortable, comfortable and talking to them. But the back and forth that Gollum has and just the like. He's kind of like a weird like, vampiric looking creature.

Collin  1:53:59

Just Well, I guess is like the four. And like his teeth. He kind of reminds me of like a creepier. Nosferatu in this but

Brandon  1:54:11

creepier than that that's a week. Right? But yeah,

Collin  1:54:14

Jake is like he's been down here Oh, while and their whole back and forth conversation to me and kind of how like

Aaron  1:54:29

the fact that column has not had like a third person to talk to in like a long time. And in the next few panels, it shows like when they're having these conversations back and forth, kind of the delight that Gollum has in talking to somebody because like it shows that he's kind of like rocking like as he's, he's not like on the land. He's like rock rocking back and forth like on the boat. And so like, like this childlike wonder and like answering these these

Collin  1:54:56

riddles and questions and how it kind of like He's having joy in this. And that's, to me like the creepier part. It's like, oh, like, yeah, like, I'm going to eat you, but I'm gonna have fun and doing it. And so that to me is like the true like, creepiness. Of like, this whole thing that happens because, like, below is a danger. But when you're read the panel's and looking at it, it's like, oh, he's not like, in that much danger, is he? And I, to me, that's the part of that's like, Oh, this is what's gonna happen like I'm, I'm a little more into I'm a little more invested in it now, because it's pulling you in as like, Oh, they're just doing riddles. And oh, flipping over the next page. And then it's like, below stumped. And then you see, like this page for hate for me. The dark, twisted nest. Gollum is like the panel's showing him like getting out of his boat. And like, falling in the water. He had a feeling that the answer was quite different, and that he ought to know it. But he could not think of it. And she was like dolphins eyes peering out of the water, as he slowly like, was, again, all filled out is like the paint in front of it's like, Oh, I'm gonna have fun with this. And then you fold it over, it's like, oh, this is just a little bit darker than I thought. And this is not at all. So if this part started, like, coloring of all the different, this was the real life, different points in the book are not like, there's no right, right colors, or no vibrant things are not made characters, this guy. And

1:56:52

it's like, oh, it's calm, it's playful, it's twisty, and then it's dark. So that's, that's the part that I really enjoy in this. And this is, these pages go on for a while, and you get to really see all of golems characters is his emotions come out, and his snarled and is ours that he has here.

Collin  1:57:15

To me, that's, that's the real joy, but interesting part of this. You're like, Oh, I'm expecting something different. Like, he's gonna, you know, cool. Well, I mean,

Brandon  1:57:30

that's really cool to hear that the bat does that, because it really mirrors kind of what I was thinking about how the book, kind of the not the book version talks about because it is it's a slow ramp, right? Because at the beginning, you're right, the riddles are just like, Oh, that one's easy. Ba Yeah, I got that. That's no problem. And then just sort of like, very slowly,

Collin  1:57:53

they start to get harder. And kind of Bilbo realizes that this

Brandon  1:57:59

guy is serious in the stakes, right? It's not like happy fun time. Right. And so, yeah, that's kind of the thing that I got out of just reading it, too, is like, it's, it's a slow buildup, because the first one they're like, literally, oh my gosh, that's easy. It's this right? The next one? Oh, yeah, that was a problem. Give me that one. And then like it takes it just sort of progressively every time somebody tells a riddle, it takes progressively longer and longer for the other person to think

Collin  1:58:25

of the answer. Right, right. Because they get harder. And they're like, see both of them struggling more and more getting more and more frustrated. Right. And also, the you can just feel the panic in Bilbo and increasing with each passing question. Yeah, exactly. Right.

Brandon  1:58:50

You can see the franticness in Gollum as well, because he wants to when to write for very different reasons, but like, hungry, struggling, more and more as well. is,

Collin  1:59:01

you know, dealing with a few apples short

Brandon  1:59:05

of a full cart, I believe is the same but he's doing that. And then and then we get to the end right and Bilbo sheets question mark Bilbo cheater question mark don't

1:59:17

know, right?

Brandon  1:59:20

Hey, he just literally I can't think I mean,

Collin  1:59:22

the thing is, is Bilbo said it, not intending it to be his thing. just blurt it out. And he rolled with it because Gollum didn't call him on it, right. Played it. And so Bella was like, oh, okay, well, this is yeah, of course. That was my Yeah, yeah. That's a good well,

Brandon  1:59:43

also, we think about this as a reader now.

Collin  1:59:48

Did Bilbo ask that question? What did the free Well anyway, we don't know. We can't say that.

1:59:57

I can ask my question. I want to know

Collin  1:59:59

All right, anyway. You know, whatever he asks,

Brandon  2:00:06

What have I got in my pocket? I think he's just like Colin said he could just thinking out loud, right? He's just like panicking. i My mind was drawn a blank, well, distressed situation. And if you think oh, he

Collin  2:00:18

he put it in his pocket without thinking about it so I think I don't even think he knew what was in his pocket at first because he right like that's that's another aspect of this as well. It's kind of like

Brandon  2:00:28

he was put his hand in his pocket to think and then also like out loud was like, What is this?

Collin  2:00:33

Exactly? Exactly right in the old Colin there picked it up and ran with it. Yeah. But here's the other part, right. Here's

Brandon  2:00:46

the other part is weird. I think the very subtle nature of

Collin  2:00:50

this is like, is important. Right? So column can't guess. Right?

Brandon  2:00:59

Bilbo wins question mark, asterisk,

Collin  2:01:02

right. And then columns, like all right, yeah.

Brandon  2:01:07

Fill those go in. Okay. You told me I take you out columns. I

Collin  2:01:12

did. I now.

Brandon  2:01:14

Can I say that? Yeah. And he sort of like disappears, right? He kind of goes away. He sneaks away again. And why is he sneaking away? What is he planning on doing? Right? This is the post so that's that's like really ramped up the tension here is he's, he's paddling back to his little island. Uh huh. Kind of like being all sneaky and subterfuge because he is good.

Collin  2:01:41

He wants to go get the ring from where it's hiding places. Because he knows about it.

Brandon  2:01:50

He spent a lot of time with it. At this point. It's not made clear how long but it's a long time. Spoilers. He knows what the ring is. Right? And even says in here, this is a ring of power. And Gollum knows that if you put it on. It can make you invisible. So Gollum is just planning on murdering Bilbo.

Collin  2:02:16

Anyway. It's like, okay, that's fine. I'll be like yeah, he has no intention of playing fair with this. Yeah, he's

Brandon  2:02:29

just gonna kill him anyway, right? He's like, Ah, yes, my presence. That's what I want.

Collin  2:02:35

That's what he wants to ask. So he goes, and he is, you know, sneaking as he's want to do.

Brandon  2:02:43

And Bilbo the whole time is confused, because Gollum was just sort of talking. And it was like, What the heck is he mumbling about what's going on here? I don't understand, right. And he wanted to sneak up and murder Bilbo. And so he goes back.

Collin  2:03:01

And now he discovers that, you know, it's not where he left it. Right. And now, he becomes enraged. Right? Because he is now his brain is

Brandon  2:03:25

clicking into gear. And he's saying, my thing is lost. What do you have in your thinking pocket anyway, you got the note? PISA, you know, like,

Collin  2:03:35

Yeah, his his wheels start turning. Right. He's Yeah, he's definitely thinking.

Brandon  2:03:41

And I even says down here, as far as Bilbo knew, there was no particular reason why he should not tell. Right? But he just kind of had a feeling that maybe he shouldn't just mention it. Because he's so agitated.

Collin  2:03:59

Maybe I won't bring it up, right.

Brandon  2:04:02

And then, you know, Bilbo is like, confused. And he's like, What do you mean what have you lost and Gollum is not going to tell him you know, less and ask us not it's business. Yes.

Collin  2:04:15

And then we get to this column was on him,

Brandon  2:04:19

before Bilbo could do anything, recover his breath, pick himself up or wave his sword gun pass by

Collin  2:04:24

taking notice of him. Right.

Brandon  2:04:28

Because as he was running, you know,

Collin  2:04:33

he put the ring

Brandon  2:04:34

on somehow, magically, the ring found its way onto his finger. And you know, it's sort of absent mindedly he just sort of quietly slipped it on his groping forefinger. Like while he was just had his hand in his pocket. He just like put it on.

Collin  2:04:54

Right? Not really intentionally, just sort of like absentmindedly did it. Was it the ring? Or was it Bilbo? I'll never know.

Brandon  2:05:04

But he does. And he falls down goblins runs by him.

Collin  2:05:08

And it was like, What the? What the heck.

Brandon  2:05:13

So we have Bilbo discovering what the ring is, is able to do also at the same time.

Collin  2:05:22

Yeah, great. I love how it's, it's not a, like, in this exact moment when tensions were like, at their highest, he discovers the power of the ring and is slipping past like, it's not like he figured out like any another book would have had him accidentally, like do this while a goblet had passed by. And so like, sources, you know, previously so that he knew the power of the ring going into this and knew knew about it, and was trying to figure out how best he could do this to get away or whatever. But this was just a, again, this didn't happen by chance, right? What what was driving this? What's the force pushing all this forward? It's true. And again, we know

Brandon  2:06:08

since this is a heavily rewritten chapter, we can infer here that the ring needed to leave.

2:06:14

And so it's sort of

Brandon  2:06:15

spring these events on right, like, let's go I can, here's my chance to escape this cave. Let's get out here. Anyway, Bilbo sort of figures out that he's invisible, kind of, sort of, and he just starts following Gollum, because Gollum is basically talking out loud, like he does. Talking about maybe he goes to the exit and so he starts running towards the

Collin  2:06:39

door. And so Bill, obviously you just follow him. Right? This is clearly what you do. Worse.

Brandon  2:06:50

And that's pretty much it. Right? He just goes down follows him through. And he escapes right? He gets to some some like, goblins in the way he has to like, jump over.

Collin  2:07:03

We're gonna jump over Gollum squeezes through it tight door, right loses buttons off, right? Yes. And then he is now outside,

Brandon  2:07:15

right? The last lines of this chapter Bilbo had

Collin  2:07:18

escaped? Uh huh. So he's escaped. For now, now, because next chapter, next chapter foreshadowing out of the frying pan into the fire, which I just Yeah. So this, to me, this chapter really amped up the stakes, like it really just ratcheted this up to a whole nother level that I have not experienced before. And I don't think we will, for the rest of this book, like this chapter five. I know it's been heavily revised and revisited and whatever. But like, it is such a weird, high point in the entirety of the book, not because we obviously we don't know the significance of the ring, and blah, blah, but just like, the amount of tension that is written into this, like the amount of like the again, the the personal stakes in this are higher than there ever ever be for the rest of the book? Well, I don't know about ever be. I mean,

Brandon  2:08:23

there is another creature in another underground thing, that the stakes

2:08:32

are pretty high. They're not gonna lie. That's That's true. I just,

Collin  2:08:38

I think, to me, this this chapter, it just personally, like, once you get to through this chapter, like, yeah, those other things are gonna happen. But like, that really hits you in the face. And this one, like it is so and I think, because it's the setting of like, this is a face to face. Like you can like the the, I don't know, like, it just it feels a lot more personable or personal. I just from how the interaction is going. So, I don't know. It's just it's a weird high point in the story for me. Well, that's true. It's also a good.

Brandon  2:09:20

I think when you compare it, we will compare it to what's to come because we haven't got there yet. We don't know what's going to happen soon. If we can compare it to

Collin  2:09:29

what we've had already, right, like, these two chapters, versus chapter two with the trolls, like, Yeah, whatever, like, that was kind of bad. But like,

Brandon  2:09:43

the trolls are Bumbly. Right? They're not like a real threat. You know, like they got in a tight spot. They got out of it. But it didn't really feel dangerous because the trolls are like dumb. And like,

Collin  2:09:58

Goofy is just kind of weird, right? So goofy

Brandon  2:10:00

and silly and like even though they're like about to get eaten, it was still all very like light hearted and like weird. This chapter though, even the goblins are like,

Collin  2:10:09

Oh, hold on. The goblins are serious. Yeah,

Brandon  2:10:13

they're not really messing around. Right. And then you take that and then you go from that danger to the Gollum thing. And you're right. Like the danger level, like the further Bilbo goes away from his house, the more danger he is encountering and the more

2:10:30

serious the danger is, right. Like, the Gollum is not playing, right. Like Gollum was going to murdered him. That was the plan. Right? It was going to drown him probably.

Brandon  2:10:45

Right, sneak up behind him and show him that was his plan.

Collin  2:10:49

So that that the as we're, as we

Brandon  2:10:51

continue to step further and further away from Hobbiton, the danger level represented is increasing like exponentially, right? We're going to have more dangerous to come. Right. So that's going to increase until the ultimate destination which spoilers? There's it's not great there either.

Collin  2:11:11

So thanks out. Right. Turns out that's a

Brandon  2:11:17

term that is dangerous. Wow, for the left in the first place.

Collin  2:11:22

No better.

Brandon  2:11:23

Yeah, we get this like, we're kind of getting that rewrite. It's like ratcheted up significantly. Before whereas like, you know, earlier, it

Collin  2:11:30

was kind of like, Haha, the trolls are down. And I was like, Oh, I

2:11:33

almost died. Oh, no. Right.

Brandon  2:11:38

So it is like a turning point for Bilbo. Personally, I'm like, Oh, is this serious? And I need to be careful,

Collin  2:11:43

because it's getting real out here. We will see more of coming soon. Coming soon. Aaron, any closing remarks? No, I think you guys pretty much touched on it a lot. I know when I was younger, and I got to this part, like I was I don't know if I was just like, emotionally drained or like before, but I think it the pace kind of Quicken vacanza picks up because it's, Oh, well. There's like,

2:12:20

to me, like, this is kind of a halfway, kind of in the middle. And like the theme to me kind of changes. The whole like, Oh, hey, now we're kind of in a hurry to get through stuff because everything's kind of being drug along. And you know, things change. There's more stuff that happens that we that we need to get to. And the tempo to me changes. And, you know,

2:12:50

the light like, oh, whimsical. Oh, look how funny it is like, okay, no, this

2:12:53

is serious. This is real life.

Collin  2:12:55

We got stuff. And I think, at least at this point

2:13:01

from now on, it's a completely different book, or at least the second half, and I can kind of see why the movie did it that way. Because the first Hobbit movie, this is where the end of the

Collin  2:13:13

right, yeah, this is pretty much the movie, like the first would be stopped. Because to me it changes tempo. Hey, now there's more to come here. Right. And, yeah, that's kind of my closing statement. Like, oh, you know, it's good. Fun. Oh, we're on we're on a neat little journey to go from captured. Oh, this is going on? And then it kind of tumble. From there.

Brandon  2:13:45

Yeah, I think it's a good kind of way to think about it. Right. Like, like the stakes have ramped up, right. We've worked with all three times now. So he's kind of like,

Collin  2:13:55

in rather quick succession.

Brandon  2:13:58

Yeah, right, like not too far away from each other. And so yeah, the pace is definitely kind of increasing and there is will travel. Right, we are on a deadline, right. And so there is like the sense of urgency of like, we have to try to overcome this because we have to get to our destination at a certain time. Because we that's where there's a magical door thing and we need to get to the magical door thing on the day, right? And it's still far away. So we have to like so you are right, the pace does kind of Quicken and it starts to get more hectic and more frantic and things because like at the beginning, right? They're just like Hadley riding horses around and blah, blah, blah. And now we're like panicking because now we don't have stuff. We don't have horses anymore. We don't have this. Bla bla bla like it's the situation is all of a sudden, much more dire than it was at the beginning of chapter four right before the storm. We don't have equipment, we don't have horses. We don't have food we don't have whatever. You know, at this point. We don't even know what does he mean have his friends. He just Escape the building by himself or the mountain. That's it. You know, and so we're not we're not in a great spot, you know, just like as things go. And so yeah, I think you're right. I think from here, it does really increasing, urgency, increasing like intensity. Yeah, all that stuff kind of just kind of ramps up these this is kind of like the screw that we're putting the screw to this story and really kind of ramping up everything, basically from here.

Collin  2:15:32

Alright, yeah, there we go. Well, and we will we will continue that discussion next time over chapters six, and seven. Or whatever we decide we need to read over through we'll discuss it after this. Yeah.

Brandon  2:15:50

It's to Aaron is to right before they get to the Mirkwood. They

Collin  2:16:04

No, no, no, we haven't read it yet. We don't know. Stop. There's no way. Well,

Brandon  2:16:13

I believe. Yeah. I was saying, Aaron for Aaron, that I think kind of where we're gonna stop next time is like right when they are getting ready to go into Mirkwood. Yeah, okay. Yeah. Yeah. Since you don't have chapters, that's kind of where we're beat. No, it's all good.

Collin  2:16:31

Yeah. Well, hopefully you all's week goes better than it was so far. And hopefully, yes. If it doesn't, hopefully yours ends with the elbows having that you have escaped, right. That hope. A phrase we can all hope to right at the end of our week is we escaped leave. With that to look forward to. We'll wrap it all right. Okay. Love you guys.

Brandon  2:16:59

Love you too. Bye. Bye.