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00:05

Welcome to Oh, brother, a podcast. Three brothers trying to figure it all out with your hosts, Brandon,

 

00:13

Collin. And Aaron.

 

00:16

On this week's show. grunge

 

00:36

Happy belated anniversary.

 

00:41

Oh,

 

Brandon  00:43

yeah, I know. I noticed that. Well, hey, yeah. Tada.

 

00:47

This is a little little late game here. This is our fourth episode is made.

 

00:54

Oh, hey.

 

01:01

That's crazy.

 

Brandon  01:03

That is pretty crazy. Look at that we committed to a thing. And actually did it. Who knew?

 

01:09

And we did the thing.

 

Brandon  01:10

We knew. That was possible. Right? Breaking breaking character. Talking about doing a thing and then actually doing it. Yeah. Good battery. Oh,

 

01:28

yeah. No, I was just checking out the old schedule. They're like, Oh,

 

Brandon  01:32

yeah. I noticed that this week when I listened to the one that came out on Monday. Or yesterday, I guess. And it was 51. And I went, Whoa. Yeah. I meant to catch the 52nd episode. With people listening to this. The second will be trucks and toilet paper. Come Yes. Important.

 

01:57

Wave. That was our 52nd. One official officially

 

02:02

off. There we go. All right.

 

Brandon  02:08

Hold on. Oh, no, not really, to sort of nothing really actually is happening, apparently. So that's nice change base. Yeah, right. So well, like I'm not doing anything. Other people are doing stuff like Shane as a play practice schedule has ramped up significantly. So he's not doing that. And you know, works are sort of going right. We had our meeting stuff like last week plus, like, very a couple weeks ago, and then all the testing in the world. Like, I don't like so we don't want our testing last week. And so we're trying to get back to regular scheduled programming for now. So yeah, that's pretty much it.

 

03:09

Oh, uh, I

 

03:11

guess we also need to

 

Brandon  03:16

pour one out for Eddie Van Halen. That Yeah. recording. Yes. I was gonna bring that up later. Since this is the music centered episode. Right. Right, right. Hey, I didn't even didn't even talk about didn't even think about that. But yeah, no, yeah. Yeah. And that's fine. Now it's okay. But yeah, I saw that today. I was like, yeah. So unfortunately, he has had like mouth cancer. And for like, a long time. Right. And so just cancer for a long time in general. Even dealing with that for many years now. So it was unfortunate because he was only 65 years old. He was pretty rough. So yep.

 

04:06

The Greens. So rockers from that era.

 

Brandon  04:11

I mean, yeah, he's like the guy, right. And even though I wasn't necessarily always like the biggest Van Halen fan, right, I wasn't always like, oh, man, I gotta listen to some Van Halen, right. I definitely always appreciated Eddie for just all the. But he was just such a good guitar player like crazy. Good. So yeah, I definitely appreciated that about him. And I did like a lot of his stuff. I never turned it off when it came on the radio. Right. But I never liked you different. Yeah. Yeah. Right. So I did let's do a little bit today, just because it felt appropriate. So I'm sorry. So yeah, that's pretty sad news. This this afternoon. I read that like me, you guys checking news at lunch and IV my lunch God Tech, sadness. Yeah, just trying to get back into school doing school things. Just trying to figure out like, it is a almost end of quarter. So we have to, like, make sure my grades are in. Like all that fun stuff, we have to type and letter to sent home this week to be like, Hey, we, you know, normally the last few years, we've been doing parent teacher conferences as just like, show up. And come on in because they're like, very, we're trying to, we've been trying to do like student led conferences, where they, they just come in, and they talk about how it's going and class and kind of show off some of their work. And they look at their learning binders and say, Oh, yeah, here's what we're learning about. And, you know, this is what we're doing. And then they do most of it. And then if they have questions for me, I'm just sort of there. Right? But this year, it's going to be kind of like, well, if you want to, you can schedule a time to come in, which is how they used to do it like a long time ago, like, schedule your time slot, come in for like 20 minutes and talk about it. So this year, it's gonna be like, if you want, you can come in, I in sixth grade in like kindergarten, everybody's still getting their, their 20 minute time slot, right. But for us, it's like, oh, you know, if you want to, you can come in, unless there are some children that we are like, No, no, you need to come in and talk to us about this. Because like, you know, so we're gonna get together, me and other sixth grade teachers, and the two other ones are gonna get together this weekend, kind of look at our grades and see or talk about behaviors and see, is there anybody that we got to be like, you're getting the other letter that says, Please, schedule a time these days to come in and speak to us about stuff? No, oh, wait, hold it back. Because some of them are like, my grades are bad. And like, I was like, it's not just about grades and a couple of when we mean, like, Yeah, no, it's also about like, behavior and just kind of how you know, your attitude and all that kind of stuff. They're like, Oh, really? Yep.

 

07:27

Oh,

 

Brandon  07:30

yeah. That's what like, you can be passing my class. That doesn't mean you're performing well. In my class, right. Like, you

 

07:43

mean, it wasn't?

 

Brandon  07:46

Yeah, like you can get an A and still be like, acting out. misbehaving like, you know, not following our guidelines and expectations. Like should be. So you know, there's that so yeah, we've been that's what we're doing this week is getting that kind of sorted out, figuring out all that fun stuff. Fine. I mean, yeah. Fun question mark. It's fine. Yeah. Sure. What about you, Aaron? Um,

 

Aaron  08:32

we're still going pretty crazy. For a little bit more settled, we put together

 

08:40

a bed

 

Aaron  08:42

we got a bed frame put together a bed.

 

08:45

And then that's,

 

Aaron  08:47

that's that's about it. That's the extent from last time we thought to and now and then just kind of workwise they've been no real new developments. They just all been

 

09:02

chaotic. And oh, I need to run

 

Aaron  09:05

here. Oh, I need to talk to these people. Oh, I need to go to this hospital. Okay. Oh, no one wants to do anything cool. Okay, I guess I'll go do this myself. But it's, I mean, there's that kind of dynamic button

 

Brandon  09:19

other than just kind of

 

Aaron  09:22

just kind of going just kind of vibing the best I can

 

09:27

get my desk a little bit more. desk appropriate.

 

09:31

messy, more like to add

 

Brandon  09:34

no seven, no more.

 

Aaron  09:36

Stick on the. So

 

Brandon  09:41

for now, some of those like, command strips like bam.

 

09:47

Yeah, welded on fire.

 

Aaron  09:50

I do. I do actually have some of those but things are awesome. Kind of with the metal and the little Puck things that I have there. A little bit. On the

 

10:02

other to thin,

 

10:03

yeah, they just don't

 

Brandon  10:05

stick on that you can get some bigger ones. I mean, those are like the only thing that I can get some of the junk to stick on my cinderblock walls at school. Because like, if you remember from elementary school, nothing sticks to a cinderblock wall. Absolutely nothing. everything falls off. Yeah, it's like everything. Like weirdly, sometimes just scotch tape works like actually the best, but like, bigger for bigger things. You know, where that doesn't work? Those command strips are pretty good. Yeah, I know people that some people put them on clothes, pins, right? And then stick them there. So that way they could change out whatever paper is holding. They just put two clothespins there and commands driven to the wall. And teacher hack for you guys out there. You do this at home, right? You just put some command strips on your clothes pins, bam. And then you can change out whatever paper goes in there. Oh, yeah. For your anchor charts or your whatever, your artwork, whatever. Good times. So I go pro tip. nidos Um, yeah, other than that, I mean,

 

Aaron  11:14

not really, anything, majorly new developments Come on this end.

 

11:21

They'll just kind of kind of going with the flow.

 

11:25

As per huge,

 

Brandon  11:27

there's not really anything. Anything new.

 

Aaron  11:34

I'm looking around our office to see if I could have anything like legitimately No, but I'm

 

11:41

really bad at it, honestly.

 

11:44

But yeah, I mean, it's,

 

11:46

it's, it's it's still pretty, you know,

 

Aaron  11:49

we got the good triumvirate of the

 

11:54

old one called

 

Aaron  11:57

the airfield and the train and our upstairs neighbors children. Just kind of it's kind of a, you know, a symphony of unique sounds of Oh, what is that thundering that's happening? Oh, that's the children are like, Oh, what is that terrible noise racket like, Oh, that's a plane like, Oh, what is that? So it's, it's kind of a guess, who are Guess what? per day of fun things are. But out of that, it's, you know, we're kind of enjoying it. Got a nice little seal or the vibe that we're doing. So it's it's fun. Sweet. Yeah.

 

Brandon  12:44

I sat in on a phone call. Work Work recently. And

 

12:51

I don't I don't.

 

Brandon  12:56

I have. I have genuinely, I was on the phone call for an hour, an hour and 45 minutes. I still like every day. I was like, do they? Why did they invite I think I got the wrong invite. Like, I don't know, like, this isn't involved me? Or like, why are they talking about stuff? And I don't know, they're talking about who to put on the charter or rule? Or rules? Do they? Do they know I'm not here? I was maybe they meant to get to you. But then like forgot? Yeah, I think I think what it was was they went, Oh, this person is on water.

 

13:43

He needs to be on.

 

Brandon  13:45

Because like my boss was on this call. But like I am my position does not involve some like, administrative kind of decision. Like everybody else was on call or like,

 

14:03

out there and

 

14:05

didn't say anything for an hour. 45 minutes, because I had.

 

Brandon  14:09

Well, I mean, this could mean a couple things. Right? Number one surprise, you're not working on whatever this thing is. Yeah. You didn't know. Right?

 

14:20

Yeah. Yeah. In case you so in case you're wondering. Because I know you were the Army Corps of Engineers

 

Brandon  14:29

have with a call nationwide permit. Hoa permit are basically a list of things that you are allowed to do in to or around a stream that don't require you to get a special permit. You don't even have to apply. So like there's a blanket statement thing, right? Like,

 

14:49

for a permit or a nationwide permit if you meet their guidelines. Okay.

 

14:55

It's just, it's just given to you

 

Brandon  14:58

just because of who you are right now. If anybody asked him a question, you could go to the core and they would go, yeah, here we go. So they are proposing some changes. So there's a nationwide event. And the biggest thing that they're doing for these is they are going from linear feet of impact to a grid of impact. Oh, now this might I, so they're, what they're trying to do is they're trying to capture and penalize more, penalize people more or damaging. What this does is it utilizes more for damaging our river. Because, or it's based off of width and length, though that translates to a lunch. Yes, that's how area works. It's weird. It's weird. It's weird, because because the width is with a larger River. If you damage a smaller portion of its length, you will still impact a wide a larger acreage of land. Yes, remediate that. What this means is that a lot of border or Emerald streams, you can impact words of like, 5000 linear feet, before you have to even apply for a permit. Ah, okay. Which, which is, uh, you know, it's not good problem. Yeah. And so what you have to do is submit. So now they do this to the States. And they were like, Is this okay? And so now, what they're trying to do is they're trying to come up with a response to the core as to why this is or is not going to work, or Missouri. And then there are some, like, regional guidelines that they're changing to. Again, all of this stuff is stuff that I am tangentially, in gently intense, and gentle, gingerly, tangentially

 

16:52

tangentially involved in, I never remember the job or anyway.

 

Brandon  16:59

But I'm not involved in it from like, the, from the policy side, or from from that side. So I think what they were trying to do is involve me, because I may have like, remembered some data that we have. But no, like, I don't like we don't have the data. So one of the also You see, yeah, but you are the person that's like, and, like, you see the effect that it has, right? So maybe that's what they're going for is maybe Oh, well, if we need to talk about like what that looks like, actually on the ground in person. Here's a person that goes out and walks through the street sees that, right? Or knows about the impact, the direct impact these things have on the land around it. So

 

17:44

maybe that was it? Maybe Maybe. But there are things like, you know, I wanted to know, okay,

 

Brandon  17:49

or you're about to be in charge of something,

 

17:52

or do something. You know, one of the questions that I had was okay, like, how,

 

Brandon  17:57

how many first order streams does Missouri have compared to second, third, fourth bit, so we can start looking at the potential impact for this in a very real like on the ground set? Well, just mathematically, it's going to be a bigger number than the larger streams, right? Yes. Like, because that's how like, that pattern works. That fractal pattern of like feeders like that, like rivers, and you know, all those things. They there are more like exponentially more smaller theaters, then the main line stream system. Yeah, right. Yeah. So So that's this? Yeah. So yes, there's more. So they're going to have a larger impact. But but this is yes. This is like, Okay, how many stream miles? Do we have a second first order streams or smaller? You know, if because if you don't count, you know, if you got Bruyneel Angel, and ephemeral streams, like that can change into some of the math makes it a little bit fuzzy. But the next, technically, I would say that you should still count them because they're part of the overall system. Well, because of what was recently redefined as the waters of the US, um, many things that we once thought were waters of the US are now no longer waters of the US. And now Is it because they don't always have waters in them? Yes. And so the, the core technically doesn't have jurisdiction over those to tell you what to do or not to do. So that's why that distinction is important. And then the other key part of this is, how many nationwide permits are listed on what order of streams here in this room. That information is extremely hard to find, even for a state agency asking for it. Because Because reasons, right, like does react, whatever. So that's what I wanted to see. I want to see stream miles of This size and under. And then now let's overlay the permits that are out there just to start getting a sense of how many extra miles of stream, are we going to be potentially impacting just based on what we have right now? Because what this means is, if you're, if you have a nationwide permit, currently, when they change to the new one, you automatically get that, right, that just comes to you. So you have to take into account existing impacts, but that have the potential to expand when we are writing a letter to them to figure this out.

 

20:34

So that was my only question. And I

 

20:40

didn't ask it because then somebody else asked it. I was like, Okay, cool. Well,

 

Brandon  20:43

no. Well, now that. And of course, they were like, yes, that is a very interesting piece of information that we don't have, or have any. Cool, thanks. So wheat. So, yeah, things like that. There you go.

 

21:04

I understand what they're trying to do. They're trying to make it easier to calculate on themselves. For the core.

 

Brandon  21:11

acreage is easier to work with in your feet of a stream. And they're trying to speed up this process, because they've gotten some new mandates of like, get this, like, if the permit once the permit hits your desk? I forget what it is. I think it's you have 45 days to either approve or deny it, or it gets automatically approved. Okay, yes. So, so, you know, it's things like that, where like, there are all these like perverse incentives for bad things to happen. Yeah, or, you know, this person who goes, Well, this is the good, this is probably going to get approved anyway, because I have all these other questions to ask, and I need to get into some on the ground work, I need to blah, blah, but I don't have time for that. So what's the quickest way to yes or no this? So that doesn't just get automatically approved? Because then revoking something is a whole nother thing, right? And then it's just it's always harder.

 

22:13

Right? Like, right,

 

Brandon  22:15

right. And so interesting things like that. That was that's what the phone call was about. It was enlightening. Like I was interesting to sit in on but my exact like, direct, like, why am I here? Why am

 

22:32

I here? I understand this is important. And like, my bs is here. It makes sense for her to be here but like me

 

Brandon  22:42

We'll see. We'll see how much of your opinion she wants later. There you go. That's that's a good point. Yeah. Yeah. Is it time to move on to the main event then I think it is time to move on to the main event. So all right, we'll recognize that not asked me the week before last or reasons that nobody quite understands or is going to ask questions about we didn't get to original challenge which brain impose proposed proposed proposed anyway speaking it's hard today for calling is proposed. There's an R in there

 

23:35

proposed.

 

23:37

We do kind of

 

Brandon  23:41

into into the music genres that we're not all that familiar with. Aaron got rockabilly. Brandon got stoner rock. And I got classical and we're supposed to review these and kind of come up with our five artists recommendation, or, or those that I summarized that correctly. Yeah, sounds good. I like it.

 

24:03

Okay, so who's up on the list?

 

Brandon  24:08

Well, that's what I did. We want to just go like one person go through all their stuff first. This time, because last time we did it we each did like a five and then a four. I'm like around. Do we just want to go down? Because it's different this time?

 

24:22

Yeah, I think I think that would maybe, yeah,

 

Aaron  24:24

we didn't we didn't take like a top five. They just kind of had to be you know, five in general. Yeah. Five that you'd like to

 

Brandon  24:31

write. So yeah, I have mine ranked slightly because I have one like clear favorite, but the rest of them is kind of like okay, yeah, these are good too. So Alright, so who's gonna go first?

 

24:43

Um,

 

Aaron  24:44

I can go first because my I believe mine is technically the oldest.

 

Brandon  24:49

I mean, that's probably fair. Well, I mean, Collins is classical music. So I yeah, I beat here a little bit, but maybe a couple hundred years, but I think I like Aaron going first. I want to hear Aaron's rockabilly synopses

 

Aaron  25:03

So according to a reliable website that doesn't start with a W it ends with a pedia.

 

25:14

Internet site

 

Aaron  25:17

is that the Cite your sources, rockabilly is for is technically from the 1940s 1950s of a southern Western, plus rhythm and blues, rock from rock and roll and kind of the hillbilly from the 1950s, which is also kind of considered country. It's kind of like a Western swing. And then these are the words that use Boogie woogie, junk blues and electric blues. It was definitely popular in kind of at the tail end of the 1940s and kind of 1950s and there was kind of this weird search or research or revival kind of in like the 1970s 80s ish of the 90s the kind of the whole big, you know, staple, you know, the big poster person of rockabilly music would, you know, technically classified as you know, the earliest genre of rock and roll was Elvis Presley. Kind of the, you know, there was one way that I tried to describe it for the whole like week. And it's kind of like the, you know, metallic guitar, banana and banana part. Yeah, definitely in all kinds of things of rockabilly. Um, so Elvis Presley is kind of the one that you know, even before when I heard rockabilly, I was like, presently

 

26:59

the the

 

Aaron  27:00

other kind of people that I kind of followed suit for any kind of pure rockabilly people that's like, well, I want to listen to definitely Elvis Presley. Yeah. Kind of the other big name people of Elvis have kind of the rock like the early rockabilly. You know, people like buddy hop, Buddy Holly.

 

27:32

Not the Weezer's version of Yes.

 

Aaron  27:36

But the actual artists, Buddy Holly, and technically Conway. I knew I had to add that him onto the list because there was really

 

Brandon  27:57

one big super early Conway is that yes, yeah, definitely not like hello darlin. Yeah, like 70s Conway Twitty

 

Aaron  28:05

not tight fitting jeans, dark Conway, Tony Blair really Conway? An early kind of

 

28:13

Johnny Cash esque.

 

28:15

Yeah.

 

Aaron  28:17

But yeah, definitely buddy holiday, Buddy Holly. And then I kind of wanted something a little bit more modern. He, you know, does definitely didn't want something that's like, Oh, this is old. I'm so careful. But I kind of looked up and there's like,

 

Brandon  28:33

okay, does I just think there is like a still like a weird kind of like modern, like subculture thing where like, super popular, right? It's like kind of like a hot rod, rat rod community like rockabilly is still like a huge, important part of that cultural landscape. Right. So there are still like, lots of really weird small rockabilly bands around, right. Definitely not like a dead genre.

 

Aaron  28:59

Good. So it's a little bit it's dead. Like there's because I watched a YouTube video and I kind of talked about people that are like, Well, you know, I love you know, rolling up my white t shirt, sleeves and, you know, stuff in your jeans and get one out there and just kind of it's, it's, I read this article, like, it's kind of a really big popular thing in like Japan. Oh, wow, kind of that kind of culture is has been, like, people that's just like, Oh, this is something that I've just enjoyed. This is something that, you know, my parents listened to, and I've always kind of wanted to, you know, show that for them. Um, I couldn't find any like, culturally Japanese rockabilly artists

 

Brandon  29:43

that are some, but I don't know what they are. But the

 

Aaron  29:46

first guy that I kind of found his name was his name is JD MacPherson.

 

29:57

And he's from Oklahoma.

 

Brandon  29:59

Oh, perfect. The website that

 

Aaron  30:01

I found on him is kind of he's a mixture of a split difference between Buddy Holly, early stones, a mix of The Black Keys and a mix of Bo Diddley.

 

Brandon  30:14

Wow, that's quite a mix.

 

30:15

Yeah. It's, I like it.

 

Aaron  30:18

There's him. That's kind of it's kind of more, you know, a mixture of older rockabilly. Yeah, there's another group I call I found Charlie Thompson from the United Kingdom. It caught it classifies it as a Western swing. rollicking country is kind of what it was classified as it was just kind of a rock country. That's like the terrible rollicking country.

 

Brandon  30:47

Yes, very nice.

 

Aaron  30:49

There, there was another group that I just liked. I listened to like one song, it's called the bell fairies, which is also kind of like it that one's more of a rockabilly pop. Yeah, the last the one that I definitely wanted to add to this list, just because it sounded very interesting. It's called the Whitney Morgan and the 78 one time friends. It is boar country. However, the article that I found to describe this person, it says, gnarly, telecasters, dark and eerie pedal steel guitars and songs about drinking lion and Cheetah it's definitely I don't want to call it a like a more grunge esque. But it's definitely still got that that beat that rhythm of kind of like the early rockabilly, you know, steel guitar, and kind of Yeah, but it's, it feels deeper, like it feels a little bit more like, I don't want to use the word heavy for country music, but it kind of sounds like you know, rockabilly Elvis.

 

Brandon  32:09

You know, it's very,

 

Aaron  32:11

the the main thing that I found in one of my articles that talked about, like, teens really liked it, because it was fast paced. It was moving it was Yeah,

 

Brandon  32:19

it is. You could describe it as like a light. Right? Like did yeah, like for what I know about it? I haven't. It's

 

Aaron  32:25

definitely not like, you know, deep into jazz. It's not Deanna blues, but the Whitney Morgan and the 78 it's kind of it's a little bit more heavier. Kind of that stuff. It's definitely not like you know, lightened poppy kind of stuff. It's it's just more if you want something that's a little bit, not just slower, but something that's like a little if you're trying to transition from country into straight rockabilly. You know, I would definitely kind of recommend them. I've only listened to two of their songs. And I'm like, Yeah, I could probably live in a more. But it's Yeah, well, the first part when I read about that, it was like gnarly, telecasters dark and eerie pedal pedal steel guitar, and I was like, oh, deeper is what I'm about to listen to. So yeah, that that was my, that was my list. To recap. I have Elvis Presley in the classics of early Conway, early Johnny, Buddy Holly. And then kind of the modern folk of JD MacPherson, Charlie Thompson, the bell theories and Woody Morgan and the 78.

 

Brandon  33:33

Right.

 

Aaron  33:34

Wow. Shout out to your eldest listening to this you know, created a whole genre and many sub genres of people to quote unquote Boogie Woogie. And

 

33:55

get down to so.

 

Brandon  33:59

You go. So did you overall, would you say you'd like enjoyed it? Or just kind of like, take it or leave it like what do you think? What was your kind of experience what you think?

 

Aaron  34:08

I mean, definitely wasn't like now, when I was, yeah, I'm probably going to catch some flack for this. I apologize if our view if we take a hit in our ratings. I just never was like, Elvis Presley is on kind of person. I don't know if it was just kind of like, his music was kind of like oversaturated to me, or if it was just kind of like I've heard it so many times. But there's not just one like one Elvis song that I'm like, oh, man, I gotta listen to this. But I knew that you know, kind of the forefather of rock. Early stuff granted, Mimi would trap me in the car and I'd have to listen to Conway Twitty. So I didn't have much choice there. But kind of early Johnny Cash buzz. I'm a huge Johnny Cash fan.

 

Brandon  35:00

More of his later work.

 

Aaron  35:02

But listening to going back and just listening to early Johnny was, you know, enjoyable to me. And then, you know, thinking of, oh, wow, now people don't really use or do rockabilly music anymore. And then like, Oh, it's really popular in Japan, it's actually really popular. You know, in the United Kingdom, it's really popular and little, small parts of the United States still, it's so there, there's an ear for it, and listening to it, I can definitely understand. And, you know, comprehend like, oh, people truly enjoy this because a lot of stuff is really fun.

 

Brandon  35:36

It's, you know,

 

Aaron  35:39

is it someone that I would go see in concert? No. If I got free tickets to it, probably. Now that I live closer to Tulsa, like, Hey,

 

Brandon  35:48

you might you might get the opportunity eventually. Yeah.

 

Aaron  35:52

I mean, I guess I mean, oh, free tickets. Yeah, sure, I'll go,

 

35:55

um,

 

Aaron  35:56

it is enjoyable to listen to kind of how each one of these artists have their own take on rockabilly. But there's still just that, Ah, that's where that's that's the rockabilly that, you know, I google searched or that's been, you know, passed on for all this kind of stuff. So it's, it's, it's fun. It's enjoyable. Is it the Mongolian rock band? Who? No, but Well, yeah, it's, it's definitely if you want something unique, and something that's kind of, you know, its own tune to dance do I will definitely recommend rockabilly, just because it's like, wait, what are you listening

 

36:36

to?

 

Aaron  36:39

pop this in my ear for a little bit?

 

Brandon  36:42

True, you do get some like style points, right? for listening to something like that, like, even unexpected. is cool because I have like, at least to not step on your toes by like, I, I've listened to some, but not very much. I know, like, two rockabilly bands. And now they were not ones you pick. So it's very interesting and very cool, I

 

Aaron  37:03

guess. Yeah, I wanted you know, cuz all the stuff that I initially pulled up was nothing but older artists. And like listening to classics or listen, or like, you know, classic rock or all that kind of stuff. Like, yeah, sure, you'll get to some of these, but I wanted to bring up people that you've either never heard of, or you've heard their name somewhere. They're definitely, you know, driving around. Excuse me here in Oklahoma, like I was that Jamie MacPherson playing on the radio. It's not, it's not one of those things. I think these last few people only came out with a few albums. Not anything like major, but it's just the fact that it is there. It's not dead. And it makes it just, it's something that's like, Oh, I was not expecting this. This is actually a very delightful it's not doesn't make my ears bleed. That was the big staple that it doesn't make my ears bleed.

 

Brandon  37:57

There we go. Always, that's definitely a positive Brandon.

 

Aaron  38:04

That that was it for me. I just, I just got a kick out of it. It was fun, delightful, enjoyable for me.

 

Brandon  38:11

So sweet. Hey, go. Great. Excellent review. Right next column near me. Anything? I will go soon. All right. Since you, you have this. You started off this, this one. Okay. So I probably cast my net a little bit too broad.

 

38:34

In this. It's very

 

Brandon  38:35

weird. Yours was a bit of a broader net to cast. So like, so sorry, wondering. Classical, I don't know. I remember from my music appreciation classes, but classical music. It's, it's basically, you know, most of us we think about it's mostly just all the old stuff, but it has very distinct eras. And confusingly, classical music also includes the classical era of classical music. Oh, so so what I did, conveniently, um, classical music is broken into medieval, Renaissance, Baroque, classical, romantic, and then 21st, then 20th and the 21st century. So okay, I just took a slice. And did I pick a composer? called artists, composers? Well, you know, from medieval, Renaissance, classical, and romantic because that's why I'm so well There we go. 20th and 21st century can buck. Anyway, you know, all I remember from my music theory class, is that romantic was my favorite. So let's see what you got.

 

39:47

Well, so, so on that on that so it's more bombastic. Okay, so we'll get we'll get to that. Why that may be

 

39:58

a good word, but But you know the old saying, right?

 

Brandon  40:02

If it ain't broke, don't fix it, fix it. Yeah. That's the third joke.

 

40:08

Oh, I heard broke, I don't like

 

Brandon  40:14

my list.

 

Aaron  40:17

So starting mostly I can think of Cogsworth. From beauty the saying, Well, if something broke, don't fix it.

 

Brandon  40:23

Obviously, everybody remembers. So starting with it. So what I what I did is I wrote down some characteristics of each era. And then I picked somebody from it that was mildly interesting or not one of the more well known people, because we have, in my mind, people that come up when we think about these things sometime. So medieval one was a big stretch for me, medieval is really interesting, because they typically only did vocals, or they only did music. This is where the Gregorian chant, and things come in, because it's heavily influenced by the church. Um, one of the things that's really interesting about the medieval period is that this is where musical notation and musical theory start coming in, which makes it really fascinating because this is where people are starting. You're able to teach music to people, because they're starting to write it down effectively. Yeah. Sweet.

 

41:19

Yeah. So I thought that was that was really interesting. And the one that I pick,

 

Brandon  41:25

she, so that was one thing that she was earliest ones. She was an Abbess, and her name is kaseya. ca, es SKSSIA. She's Byzantine, poet, composer, all sorts of things. She had this really quick, this really interesting clip where she said, I hate the rich man moaning as if you were poor. And like, oh, how true to this day still? Oh, my gosh, fair. Anyway, she's one of the few women of the time writing that used her own name that makes her really unique. And so she was operating around the eight, around 840. So this is we're going way back to the earliest time gravy. Okay.

 

42:12

And what's crazy, is that her

 

42:17

her one of her compositions most popular was the aptly named him of kaseya. It's still some To this day,

 

Brandon  42:42

in some monastic uses, so that's really cool. You've got this, this form this chant, the singing, going all the way back to 840. And still being sung these days. So, again, what we'll see here as I tried to pick somebody that was kind of characteristic of that style, though, this was more lines of not necessarily Gregorian chant, a little bit more singing, but it's still it's still all vocal from that time. That's pretty cool. Yeah, I, I enjoyed listening to, to that one that they have been that they keep around. I like Gregorian chant. I'm weird like that, I guess. But it just, I like how, I mean, they're, they are melodic, but weirdly so because it because writing in keys, and that kind of stuff didn't get developed until much later, right? People are just kind of singing to sing. And we're memorizing scripture, and they're singing about their life. So it's in being part of the liturgy too. So it just it seems, I like how simplistic it is, like, just how on ordained the music actually is. Yeah, cuz I don't even think that like 12. Note musical notation was standardized yet, at that time, no. So yeah, that's really cool. How it just sort of translated that, like, still works and is still like functions in that space. But that wasn't like, the way you did it, you know? So it's kind of That's very interesting. Right? So this Yeah, this is it. Through the when she was operating in 840. They had no notation stuff. Right. But by the later Medieval period, where you're getting into the 1400, then there is this development of much more of that.

 

44:36

Yeah. So anyway, I thought that was

 

Brandon  44:40

fun. And I'll include links do we do need include links to all the things we've got in our Oh, yeah. I'll send you the names and stuff for So then, then, so that remember it so the medieval period is actually the longest period. It starts in 800. And she's operating in 840. Then the beginning. Oh, yeah, the beginning. And then it goes to like, early 1400. So then we get jump into the Renaissance era Renaissance era is it's developed, we've got this notational stuff we've got, it's developed into what they would what they called it as a pure science, right? This fits with the Renaissance era. Yeah. In general of just, we know everything. We're learning everything, we can write things down, we can know exactly everything we need to know about something. So it's, they're laid out in a more quote, scientific relationships between notes and infrastructure of the entire thing. But they're breaking away from the they're changing that style right there. It's not just Gregorian chant. This is where we start getting more dissonances we start getting in the Madrigal. That's kind of the big thing for the Renaissance. Okay, if you love the bassoon and the trombone, Renaissance, right, I mean, everyone who doesn't love a bassoon, we

 

46:09

tried to play the bassoon, it did not go well.

 

Brandon  46:13

Done, well read hard, man. Man.

 

46:17

You don't what Aaron?

 

46:20

Nothing.

 

46:22

bad jokes.

 

46:25

So whatever. This one, I choose, I chose a gentleman by the name of defay.

 

46:43

He was operating,

 

Brandon  46:46

he lived, he was he was, again, early in the Renaissance period, which is, most of the people that I chose tend to be early in the errors. Because, you know, they, they were, it's that transitionary time. So that really helped set the direction of what was going he was a French composer.

 

47:06

And he's got this.

 

47:09

He's the, I'm not gonna I'm gonna completely butcher this, but it's the new pair roll song, boy. And

 

Brandon  47:18

it's been really nice. It's very, it's very early Renaissance, where it's characterized by much, much more restrained, kind of slightly coming out of this Medieval period. And you can see a lot of those early influences. If you just line everything up, where he's still kind of writing in this style, but it's a little there's more flourishes to it. And I thought, again, it's kind of this this transitional period into the Renaissance out of the of the medieval, this one, sorry, this is long. There's a lot here recovering, I find thousands of years of history here. I was gonna say, yeah. So no one makes you have context. So Renaissance is only from 1400 to like the early stick. We only covering 200. Yeah. And then we get into shorter, the Baroque period, and if it's not broken, anyway. where that was even shorter. Yes, that's a very short period. Yes, it's less than two. It's like 180 years, 60 years now. It's just the Baroque. So it's fast and furious ton of composers. And one of the earliest ones, your was friends, disco Come on. Born in like 1602, and died in 1976. So he's operating again, very early, throughout the early periods of this, and he had a long, long career, which was kind of interesting. But this is where everybody's favorite instrument is born. Yes, they've been with me the harpsichord I can feel

 

49:11

anyway, so

 

Brandon  49:14

you can always tell us the Baroque because there's not harpsichord, which is plucking the strings instead of hitting them with little ballot.

 

49:23

This is also

 

Brandon  49:24

was that the big difference? Is that how that works? Yeah, I don't think I ever knew that. I have no idea.

 

49:28

Yeah, so interesting. are a heart.

 

Brandon  49:31

Oh, okay. That's very Yeah, use your fingers. Yeah, that's why it sounds. That's why it's very short. When you hear a harpsichord it's very, yeah, right. There's no sustain. It's just like playing right. Like that's it like that immediately damping. So this is where the High Court is invented. This is when we first started getting early introductions of the orchestra. And when people start writing in like a particular key, right, so those are the key to finding

 

49:58

Ah,

 

Brandon  50:00

Wow, that's so weird to think that it took that long to be like some way to go. No, this song is an F.

 

50:07

Write for someone? No, I think but you know, it was it were someone sat down and went, I'm writing this in F.

 

Brandon  50:14

Yeah. Right. Like that's they didn't it didn't just go by the intervals of you know, now we're going up a third, right? Yeah, that's that's, that's a weird. That's a weird thing to think about. Wow. Wow, that's a long time to discover, hey guys a flat as a thing you can do now? Well, we are we're operating Well, you know, 1200 years after kaseya that we just that I mentioned getting right where we got writing in keys. And so at this point, Kabbalah Wow. He's writing arias. And we're getting more operas, and the people were looking for a much more full sound, which is interesting, because they have the harpsichord, which is the antithesis of full sound. But this is true, it's tinny and Miko amply de it is plinky. Right. So they start, this is where orchestras start coming in, or we start getting multiple productions, for particular pieces that people were writing, the link that I'm going to include, for him may be a like, I don't know, like a Russian scam site, it's yelled at me for quite a lot. A video of him that I wanted to do like, like this recording from one of his pieces from 2006 in Venice, and all of ads are like in Russian. And it's scary. So if you get hacked, I'm sorry. And if you end up destroying the presidential election, too bad. So, uh, we have made it, we have made it to the classical era. This didn't mean for this to be quite so teach you. But Sorry, I, if I'm exactly what this was before, I had a lot of fun working through this. And just seeing of like, the key distinctions to when people say classical music, like, it is so diverse. So we're in the classical era, now it is, like 1730s. And this one is only about 100 years classical era is only 100. Long, which is crazy, because this is where you get. This is where the big shot, these are the big names are right, like, you know, some of these people. This is exactly right. This is where we start getting a ton of the people that you've heard of, or know of. So this is typically with the music that we think of when we think of, Oh, I know that name. I know. Right? I know these people. So what makes classical different is Baroque. If you listen to it, it's very ornate. It's very, yeah, it's very heavy on the textures. And so classical starts clearing all that out. It's much lighter, and it's actually much less complex, even though there's still a ton of things going on. And this is where we start getting the melody infused further where you start having a clear melody somewhere in Wow, the accompaniment. Right. Okay. Right, which is interesting. This is so anytime you have a piece and it's a sonata quartet Symphony, that's, that's from the classical era, that's where these groups, these ensembles start being introduced, is to where composers were writing. For two violins, cello and bass, they were writing, they want to make something for that, that wasn't done at any other point in time, that we're now designing things around to get a certain sound out of them. And my Oh, and we get the piano. The BPM was introduced in class.

 

53:54

A big deal, you know, just do

 

Brandon  53:56

just a piano, just just, you know, um, and so, I picked pictor Holland doll. He's Dutch, so I, yeah, all of that. But he was he's, he's Dutch, but he lived in England, and he was composing there. And he was well known for his sonatas.

 

54:38

And just, you know,

 

Brandon  54:42

he was pretty prolific. And one of the other things that I, I am apt to do as I'm apt to listen to somebody instrumental works over and against their operas, so we may need to add opera to the list of music, add it to the I think it is all The list of I don't check, cuz that's a whole nother thing of like, classical operas or versus Yeah. Versus Baroque operas or whatever, like, very, very different styles. But he's got a wide diverse, he did mostly concertos and sonatas, and I liked him. And he wasn't. He's one of the lesser known ones. It was kind of like the who's one of the more like, underrated people out there. That's not

 

55:31

both Bach.

 

Brandon  55:32

And I'm trying to get away from these and get a little bit more exposure to some other people.

 

55:42

And land. Last one here. We're in the Romantic period, which,

 

Brandon  55:50

you know, you mentioned, it's a much more bombastic style. That's what I remember. I think that yes, part of that, as I think I don't know, I, I'm just putting some pieces together here. But part of why I think it sounds more bombastic is because the Romantic period, composers and musicians at stop being supported by the rich elites. their previous to this, you had a, you had a patron, who was a lord or lady count, who, who paid your salary to produce music for them, right? That's true in the Romantic period, we start moving away from that, as society, in Western culture, at least is moving away from that, and trying to end not, you know, there's some revolutions going on, things like that. The classical era ranges from 1815. Two actually goes all the way they say it goes all the way up to like 1950, which is really interesting. That that is, that was technically weird, the Romantic period, period. And yes, and here's where here's where Beethoven's scamp panned between classical and until the romantics. So he's technically considered a romantic person, Romania composer, but But still, if you're getting this transition to much more, I guess, kind of like, people's music, almost, which sounds slightly weird, but it really is. What was in that I also, I have some fact stored in my brain that I got from somewhere, there was talk that I remember talking about, they were changing the design of the halls in which they played this music. Right? Something about how they were changing the hall design required more volume. Right. And I think, I think it was Wagner's fault. Because he was like more tuba buffs to get like, you know, that I that that that fact comes from someplace, I'd have to look into that some more to figure out if that is true or not. But I seem to recall something about that. That could be the changing of who the music was for right in where they were. That's true. You're right. So the middle classes rising, you're getting music that's being meant for them, but they don't have their own private concert hall to go to. So people want to listen in different areas or building their own at festivals, right. So that there's music noon, there again, so you're needing to have I've been outside. Yeah, right. So you need more volume. Right? Do your, it's, it's needing to be your, if you're playing to this aristocracy, they have had lessons and music, they've had lessons in music theory and in history, so the music can be a little bit more toward their taste, playing to somebody who has never heard of music before. It's gonna sound different. It's going to be a little bit different about that. So yeah, that was one of the key trends through the Romantic period is you're getting these, these changes there. And one of the guys from the gentleman that I saw here, he's a French composer over there. Paris, and he started he was again pretty early in the Romantic period. So he was contemporaries with Beethoven, and Paganini these people, but yeah, you know, he's writing a little bit more obscurity, but of his time, he was considered one of one of the greats. We just remember Beethoven a lot more than we do. obear which is crazy, because I forget that like, oh, like Beethoven only lived till he was like what like in his I forget how you Didn't you? Isn't that older? I don't think Yeah,

 

1:00:02

you're right. Oh, bear made it to 89 Oh, wow.

 

Brandon  1:00:07

Yeah. And he was he was like composing for most of his life. And just dang right off the ledge. So that was the other thing that I thought was, was crazy is that he, he outlived Beethoven and many of his other contemporaries. And just kept, kept plugging along there. So, I liked him. I liked him a lot. It was hard to look at the list of people hear and go, whom, with whom should I listen to? So I tried to take to my people, again, who were early in the transition period, from one era to another look for people who had longer rich careers at some point. But that was that was how I arrived at my list.

 

1:01:01

Yeah. And then jumping forward. Here's my I have a bonus pick.

 

Brandon  1:01:07

Andrew, March is what is a 21st century composer? He's one of the younger ones. He's born in 1973.

 

1:01:17

Who's still choice?

 

Brandon  1:01:20

And I really like is it? Where is it? It's Marine, I travel a little Arab. Anyway, that didn't mean anything. But it's very good. And that one actually quite a lot of award. And I like that one. That's my bonus pick. I couldn't I skipped over 20th century because that nobody wants to listen to postmodern classical music. What even is I mean? Gustaf holds go down, jot it down. That's the only one I can think of.

 

1:01:53

Copeland is technically one of the Oh, yeah. Okay,

 

Brandon  1:01:56

though, but I just want to cover the main ones When most people think of it, medieval, Renaissance, Baroque, classical and romantic. Point, impressively list, like it says a lot.

 

1:02:14

And, all right.

 

1:02:17

Well, because that was

 

Aaron  1:02:18

just because that covers a good a good part of it. Because, you know, a lot of the earliest forms of singing was in the church. And so having that kind of old mixture and old spread of, you know, having music become more public, because a lot of you know, a lot of the prayers and everything was in early Latin, or, or stuff like that. So it's cool. have, you know, covering back that far, and then like, Oh, this is what we came to from point A to know what we are 2.8 I thought that was was pretty neat.

 

Brandon  1:02:54

Yeah, sorry. I misspoke earlier. I somewhere I had said it was like a 1200 year difference between the the medieval and the Renaissance. That's all it's only like 500 years, the whole I so this whole thing span from the year 1800 to 1950. Which is insane. The time period. Yeah. Just that evolution, the continued evolution of changing of tastes, and more exposure to people to music, especially in this in this. Three nuts. Pretty nice. I like it. I like it. Alright, so that brings us to the the outlier. And the bizarre thing that I put on my thing, I put this on there as kind of a joke, because like, I've heard of that. That'd be funny. And then I got it. Oh, boy. So a stoner rock, right. Also known as if you want to listen some of this at work, but you don't know. If you don't want to type in stoner rock to your work computer. Desert rock is also an interchangeable term that you can use. So for like safe search mode, right? So they're not like what the heck are you typing in? It's like a synonym.

 

1:04:13

Why any? Did they talk about the connection there? Did you find the connection at all between stoner and does not

 

Brandon  1:04:18

really just because it's like, I don't really understand what the difference is. It's very, there's some very minute bizarre, like things here that are happening. But like other names that you could hear are like, this genre has its roots in like psychedelia, psychedelic rock, right of the 60s. And like very early roll, like a later period like Black Sabbath, and Led Zeppelin like that really driving. guitar tone is kind of like a cornerstone of part of this genre. Right. So that's kind of like the earliest influences loud, like Black Sabbath, Led Zeppelin like super riff, heavy guitar stuff. Right? really heavy riffing, like repeating, some of it can be very repetitive. So some of the I listen to I was like, What is? What is this? I don't like this one. So I like those kind of bands and then kind of like, some of those later, like jammy bands like cream a little bit, like deep purple, you know, that kind of like that guitar sound is where it kind of draws its influence. But it kind of became a genre of its own in the very, very early 90s. In like, a lot of its like Southern California, like many things, right? There's a couple bands that are like, consider the eliminators other genre, like one of those, like foo, Manchu, which is a band I've heard of, but I don't think I've actually ever listened to before. So it was just like, I know that name from somewhere. Why? So they're one. And then there's their, like, one of the big ones this other band called, I don't actually know how to pronounce this. It's I think it's Q's or something. That's another big one. And then the one I've actually heard of the list, too, there's a band called sleep. They're like, the big one. Right? So they're kind of like this, the eliminators of the genre and where it came from. So a lot of it is like, for the most part, there's a it's just this weird, like, kind of thing. There are some double versions of this. There are some different flavors that that are kind of interesting. There are some that have lyrics. Right. One of the hallmarks of this genre is again, like I said, super like distorted guitars like fuzz guitars, right? If you don't know the fuzz effect is think like Smashing Pumpkins. Yeah, that guitar sound that really thick, heavy, like disgusting, like fuzz sound. A lot of them use that not all there's some that on here that don't really, and a lot of them are tuned, down low. Right. So normal guitars are tuned in that he standard tuning. Some of these things are, I don't know how low these guitars are going. But some of them are low. Right? Like these drop tunings. Some of them got to be like, C standard, like drop B, I don't know they're down, they're probably not that far, probably no. See, standard, probably some of these there, they can be low, not all of them. Again, it's very weird. The difference, like some people are like dropping way down. Others have like really not. It's very strange. But like a really like base like a groove. There's some sort of groove riff happening, right. But the overall sound is very heavy. This is really heavy, like driving sound. Now some of these bands use that as like the it's almost in with the percussion. And then they layer in like fairly only mild distorted to clean guitar over the top. So you get this like, ethereal kind of like clarity with the guitars, but then the underlying bass and the drum groove is like the real heavy driving bit. And then they slam in the guitars later for this are real like you You know, those you've seen those videos? Like, try not to headbang challenge. Yes, we've seen some of these songs, you will fail miserably because you can't help it. You're just like dead. Like just just driving forward forever. Also, the you know, like the joke when you're like, oh, man, that make a funny band name. You know, just like say something weird. And you're like, that's a funny band name. But no, all those people made stoner rock bands like that. Some of the names here are absolutely ridiculous. And that is kind of what I did. I found like a YouTube channel that like he just like sort of goes through and posts albums. And then he links to like their Bandcamp or their Facebook or whatever. So I just like went on there and just picked random ones. Either because of the name or the artwork was hilarious. And I just tried to find some that were okay. And I listened to quite a few. Some of them I did not like at all right. Again, one of the hallmarks of the production is like kind of like retro style. production. So sometimes if there was a lot of vocals, some of them are just not great sounding. Right? They're not recorded well. Because this is a largely like underground scene, there's a lot of like DIY or like small time stuff. So, whereas like the recording quality for the drums and bass and guitars might sound really good. Sometimes the vocals are not, right. Sometimes I accidentally clicked on bands that were more of a like a Doom category. So they have like, very angry like metal vocals and like that. So I was like, Nope, I'm out of there. I've focused a lot, I have a lot of instrumental ones. There are also a lot of like female vocals, which actually mix very nicely, because they like, the higher clarity of the female voice. Like singing, really lays over the really heavy riff bass stuff very nicely. So it's like, it's nice clarity. But as you can imagine, some of these bands lyrics are very, but you know what they're about? Right? It's it's a genre called stoner rock. So some of the lyrics are not necessarily creative. Or innovative, very predictable, right? It's

 

1:11:22

hard to sing about being in a quarry all day long. I will have to say, I mean,

 

Brandon  1:11:25

that's true. Yeah, yes. Right. Yes. Mining such a difficult task. So some of them are like, okay, and if you're not into that kind of thing, then you're just kind of like, bounce off super hard. A couple of them though. They're just like, I don't really know. They're just like, interesting. They kind of tell like, other stories, and they're just songs about other stuff, or they're like so, like, obscure that you don't really notice. And it's fine. It's a lot. It's very enjoyable. So that also, what I discovered is that this is a very international genre. Because these bands are from everywhere. Yeah, it's crazy. So the one that I picked that has vocals, their name is scorched, okay.

 

Aaron  1:12:15

No one wants to die. No one wants to die.

 

Brandon  1:12:24

Yep, they're German, I guess their song was in English. So they are very nicely done. But it was really like, really nice. I would like to have a really good strong groove to it. And their vocals were they're very clear. They were lots of singing. And it was it's sort of telling some kind of weird story. I don't really know. But I just remember it was enjoyable, and it wasn't like muddy vocals. And it wasn't just like, yelling about like drug related things. I was like, okay, like this one. So that one was good. I like scorched jokes a lot. The rest of them were pretty, I think they were all instrumental. Right? Yeah, these other ones that I picked as my favorites, were on the heavier side. Because I did like that driving kind of like head banging kind of vibe, you know, I really enjoyed that. There was one, some of them really switch up really nicely to like, they go from one to another. The next day. Another one I really liked. I think it's pronounced er or Aya. It's I Ah, it's named after that Egyptian moon goddess. They're from Argentina. And they have this they do a lot, they flip back and forth. They have some really nice, like transitions between some very, like, just really soothing, like melodic, very clear, non distorted guitar parts with some drums and stuff. And it's very nice and like light. And then they kind of build and build and build and then bam, like, the distortion comes on. And it's proven hard, and it's like really rockin and I really, I really liked it. Right. But because you got so it switched it up, right? It wasn't just the same. Some of these stick very hard with like, yeah, it's just gonna be the same group for like, many, many minutes. And you're kind of like, this is cool. What else do you have? You kind of get bored a little bit. But this band is really nice because they they switched up a lot, lots of moving parts, lots of like orchestration with just a small number of people in the van. So I really liked it. Another one that I picked basically because I like to the name. It's called they're called flying anomaly theorized They're from France. And they just had that similar kind of thing, right, they kind of mix it up a little bit. Here's a nice light part. Geez, a really heavy bar, here's kind of a medium, but their grooves and stuff are really good. Right? Another one, that this one, this next band is like, they are at least a part though one the album that I was into also some of these albums like EP link, so they're only like 2530 minutes long. So I would just like when I was at home, and I was like doing something or playing a game, I would just turn them on. And listen for a while and see if I liked it. And then switch to another one if I didn't like it. That's kind of my process for this. This, this next band, they're from Greece. And their name is Stone Age memos. And that is just like a real like a real blues Griffey thing. I love it. I get really great blues riffs for days. But they do lots of switch up some tempo changing in there. But their tone is really nice. They're like, the bass grooves are really good. And I just really liked that, because it got a lot of energy in that one, right? Because normally a lot of this things, you know, say like, you know, slow to mid tempo songs by tended to not favor some of those because it did feel like they dragged on for a really long time. Which is, you know, some people might want that in this genre, but that's not what I was looking for. So I like this one because it felt more driving me you know, and it was I really liked it when the last one though. Like there's no getting around what genre This band is in the lat This one is actually also my favorite watch. I've listened to so much of this band. I don't know why. But something about the way that they go about it, like really clicked with me and I really liked it. It is also really blues heavy. Like the grooves are excellent. They have two guitar players, I believe and the ex has like they take a lot of solos and there's like kind of one jam Bandy, but it's like still very blues riff heavy. Excellent guitar sounds, some of them are again, this extremely low. One of them at least. Maybe the rhythm guitar player or whatever. It's extremely low tuned. Like fuzzed out guitar and some of this. They're also from France. Or the name of this band. is are you ready for this? I'm doing King weed. There's just no other way about it. No confusion, what genre right on the nose. But I really like this stuff. I really like their music. It's really good. Again, it's all instrumental was really good. I liked it a lot. You know, some bonus pics though, if you like some of the more subdued like very slow, not very not as heavy, more melodic stuff. A couple bands that are excellent. One is Babylon tree. Really kind of light sounds kind of some Eastern rhythms going on in there by the name you could tell. Another one is elder which is pretty good. Again, it's just kind of like, much more laid back. not as heavy at all. And then the last one, again, it's very light, very melodic kind of thing. And the award for possibly the best name is an octopus diver. Oh, yes. At the time. I don't know. I don't know. I just have no idea. Which one is describing? I don't know. I'm confused. But I liked it. I was like oh this musics nice. But I did find myself drawn to that like heavier riffing, like blues riff kind of things because that's kind of music. I tend to like a bit more. But it was all that other stuff was good. But overall was a very weird experience because I did it Though anything good, so I was just sort of clicking on videos to see what would happen. And I would listen to a song and go, Oh, no, that no. It's I found I found three. pretty quick. Right? And but the last two I was like, Oh, no. I don't know if I like more of this or not? Well, yeah, you know, that's part of that is going through a discovery like this. And it's interesting to hear the different tactics that we took. You know, I was really focused on getting, like an example, exemplary composer from a particular time and want to be fair, yours has much more history behind it than mine does. There's like, a bunch of people with that guitar. Cool. Sounds cool. Let's do that. And then that was how they did it. Okay, that discovery of a show me more like this, or show me less like that, or whatever, you know, yeah, that way of working your way through? Because when you come into something like this, yeah, especially if you don't, if you don't even know like, what, what is this supposed to sound like? What is the definition of sound of? Yeah, do I even like that? And then defined? Well, you know, some people took this and they did this with it, you know, they made it a little bit more bluesy. Oh, I really like the blues version of this or whatever, you know, like, yeah, that's neat to see that.

 

1:21:33

You can you can almost find your tastes and just about anywhere you look,

 

Brandon  1:21:38

you can, but it was really hard, because like on that list that I have on there, right, most of those genres, I have at least some cursory knowledge of them. Sure, right. Like I've heard them before. I know maybe like at least one artist from there or something. This one, I had absolutely no idea at all. And because it's such a like, not mainline genre, like I had to just kind of go, Ah, I don't even know, like what your Well, what is where you start. So I basically went with the brute, I just decided it might be easier to go with the brute force approach, and just start listening to random things and seeing if I liked or not. I'd be like, how about this one? Oh, no. How about this one? Ooh, yes. But it was hard. Because again, there's not they're not like database. And they're not like they're just on there. So if I found one, I it was really hard to be like, Is there more like this one? Right. Sure. It took quite a bit of searching to uncover some of them. Right? Because it's like, oh, I like this other one. Can I find more like that? And so you click on a few go? Nope, that's not like that at all. What is this?

 

1:23:06

Actually? Older? colder? Yeah, there

 

Brandon  1:23:09

was a couple I clicked I was like, What? No, oh, yeah. Very Antarctica like this? No, no, don't want to get out of here. Though the it's a very, it's a deceptively wide ranging genre, from what I read, like, because the definition is very vague and small. But then the artists that operate in that genre are like, very diverse, and it's very weird to be to try to figure out where you should go, because some of them lean more to the psychedelic side, right? I listened to one or like the other day like Sunday, and it was like, conga drums and like rainstick. And tambourine was like, What the? What? Where did this come from? I was on the same list. I understand. It did not fit. Well. I had been presented so far. And I did not know what to do with that. Yes. I mean, it was fine, but it's not it's not really what I was looking for. So I was like, okay, pass.

 

1:24:14

So

 

Brandon  1:24:14

I think a question from this is, given your research, are you going to listen to more maybe a little bit like, again, it's really good music to have on in the background. Especially the instrument instrumental stuff, because it just has kind of this driving be this groove thing. And it's, it's kind of a nice thing to just have on you know, around. Yeah, so I probably will have it on some. Again, not, can't probably can't play that at work. Right now. I'm going to type that into not gonna type King weed into the school computer fivey bad idea. On the smartboard

 

1:24:58

the flag immediately But like,

 

Brandon  1:25:05

Yeah, I was at home, I kind of like it. Especially a couple. Right? There's a couple that I probably some of the other ones on my nose anymore, but like a few on that list bio studion. So, I think so. What about you for your classical one is a? Yeah, I mean, I, like I said, I had some exposure to Gregorian chant. And, and since I listened to a lot of things that need to in the background, I'm constantly looking for more things like that, like, I think I'm gonna put a few more of those into rotation. Because Yeah, oh, my goodness, they're wonderful. I really enjoyed listening to them. Like, I know that sounds weird, like, Oh, no, no, it's not. It that it just it really does, like I do enjoy those. I do. And then I do think I'll be doing more digging up more in the in the Renaissance time, because I don't think I fully quite understand what that one is. Yeah, I have in my mind, and I guess romantic is a little weird to but again, also because it bands a very long time, though. Yeah, the renaissance in my head is like this really weird transition period, out of Gregorian chants into harpsichord. And I don't I don't understand that transition at all. That is kind of a big change.

 

1:26:32

So, you know, it did over 200 years or whatever. But still, it was like, hmm,

 

Brandon  1:26:36

still, and along a lot of ground to cover.

 

1:26:39

Yeah. And I don't think I listened to many. I don't have I don't have any

 

Brandon  1:26:46

touch points to that point. Except for to say, who I should add actually wrote two volumes on musical theory. So we had that discussion about growing

 

1:26:57

knowledge and understanding of things that was part of that to defining the science music.

 

Brandon  1:27:03

fascinating way to look at it. I'm like, they were really trying to think of music and think about it in a scientific manner in or in, not just chords, but in arrangement of the whole piece was they were built to distill it down to a science app. Well, that's why they decided on the 12 note, scale, right? Because it's not the best way. And other like Eastern genres have, like microtonal chords, right? They're not, or Michael turnell notes they use, like the ood, the Egyptian nude, or the Arabic ood. Right? Part of what gives that it sounded the scales they used are like, fourth steps at some places, or smaller, a very small intervals, that the western scale decided, now, we're not going to do that. We're going to go 12, we're going to break it up like this, because it works with this thing we're going to, you know, and that's just kind of how they decided to do it. But it wasn't like a clear choice. They kind of slowly showed up over time. Yeah. Yeah. And then some of the early music, some of the Western music was they had those steps, right. Does like smallest intervals, but then the instruments that they started building, couldn't do that anymore. And I had to start building the instruments to meet scale does this weird, like relationship going back and forth between how that works? Right? Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. It was this. They were adapting instruments that they had a time to, yes, these new styles, and they precluded them from doing certain things with them. So yeah, no, I, I kind of, I'm going to add the more chance into my rotation and then dig into

 

1:28:44

you.

 

1:28:45

But you am in

 

Brandon  1:28:48

a moral rock really for Aaron. Yeah, like, it's, it's

 

Aaron  1:28:54

it's something that I wouldn't necessarily seek out on my own. It's, it's definitely something that I'm okay and listening to it. Because I, you know, I've listened to country, I've listened to rock, just putting the two together squarely in the middle plan. So it's, it's, I mean, it's, it's unique. It's interesting. What I go out of my way to, you know, search for it, and probably not. But I think, you know, just having the opportunity just to sit down and listen to a song or two, it is, you know, fairly enjoyable.

 

Brandon  1:29:39

You can add the one that I know, which is the Reverend Horton heat, can add him to the list so you can check him out. That's the one rockabilly artists that I remember. Or, yeah,

 

Aaron  1:29:52

me like, like little like little things like that. And he is, you know, like having a conversation with your friends. Listening and it says so little things like that, that I think are you know are fun it's not it's not something that I you know unless I you know actually sat down and devoted full attention to it or full time to it but if I don't think I'm at that level with it, it's fun it's enjoyable it's it's you know fantastic you know listen but as far as like you know going to a concert or you know so seeking out like a radio station or something probably not. But it's something it's something different to you know, to pull out every once in a while. Like I could really use some like metal guitar and some you know, just you know, the style of some sort and it's

 

Brandon  1:30:52

true sometimes you do just get in a mood for us certain thing right yeah, like I need to hear them right now.

 

Aaron  1:30:57

It is I mean that's kind of the same thing with like, you know, people down here in what's called a red dirt music Oh yeah, very Oklahoman thing I got noticed and render like you go there it's neat. It's fun. But like you know Oh hey, they're having a you know concert at the blk center.

 

1:31:22

Yeah. How much are tickets? Fair 50 bucks

 

Aaron  1:31:29

something like that on my end Now granted, the feels like you know, hey, we we were able to you know, bring back Elvis and like, Oh, well, but like, as far as you know, like, you know, some of these other people listen to me. It is enjoyable. It's, you know, something that you don't really listen or think about on a daily basis. But you know, oh hey, this is something I've kind of spanned from the 1950s to you know, kind of modern day stuff

 

Brandon  1:32:00

and

 

1:32:02

it's got that unique historical aspect to it but other than that

 

Brandon  1:32:07

got a plot twist call the next time we see Aaron he's gonna have ironed his jeans and slicked his hair back and go Pompadour Oh

 

Aaron  1:32:18

cast like you do it around here

 

Brandon  1:32:20

is the very starting already Yeah, air put the iron already burned away. I do have to back up here. Is there a concert hall called the be okay center?

 

1:32:30

Yes.

 

Brandon  1:32:31

That's pretty great. It's kind of like

 

1:32:34

I was just like, I need to double check this.

 

Brandon  1:32:37

There's there's um Oh, you can be okay.

 

Aaron  1:32:42

Oh, it's it's funny because there's the the Oklahoma City Thunder

 

Brandon  1:32:51

dome, Amina?

 

Aaron  1:32:52

Yeah, there's dead but it's like like it Yes. The Chesapeake rate Yeah, the Chesapeake Rita in downtown Oklahoma City with the thunder and it's in there the energy stored by the energy so I'll be other the be okay is one of the other big

 

1:33:11

energy

 

Aaron  1:33:12

companies here today Where's Google? But yeah so yeah there's it's called the blk center in downtown Tulsa. Actually not that far from me cuz dump the road it's you can go to the Tulsa drillers and then be okay centers like boom right behind it, though.

 

Brandon  1:33:28

When it's also gonna be

 

1:33:32

perfect. Well, check that out.

 

Brandon  1:33:36

Yeah, I'm gonna go by this is fun. Thank you guys for playing along. I enjoyed this a lot. If you have any bizarre music genres that you want to add to the list, feel free to do no. or texting to me and I'll put them on there. There you go. So if we need to add a red dirt music for Aaron, we can do that if he wants. But yeah, might as well come if you just like think of any random ones. Like, oh, hey, we need to add this. So take a look at that. See if you could think of any funny ones or look up some bizarre ones to stick on there. So we can have more for next time. In a couple months or whatever if we do this again. So

 

1:34:13

man, we'll do this. Deep Dive. Very good.

 

1:34:17

Yeah, it was fun. Cool. Well perfect. All right.

 

1:34:25

Thanks, guys. Love you. Thank you. Yeah, let me do I can't be one year.

 

1:34:32

Oh, yeah. Wow.

 

Brandon  1:34:34

Lasers laser. Yes. Virtual confetti glam. Yeah, buddy. Good night.