dystopian mindset

Brandon breaks a 20 year streak. Collin questions Eddy Money. Brandon was rick rolled.

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SPEAKERS

Brandon, Collin

Collin  00:04

Welcome to Oh, brother, a podcast where we try to figure it all out with your hosts, Brandon. And Colin. On this week's show, dystopian mindset. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. I apologize for the delay.

Brandon  00:23

Right. I mean, I mean, what what delay? Sorry? Oh, everything is fine, right.

Collin  00:30

Cisely? Yes.

Brandon  00:35

The top of your head precisely. 849. And a bit? Yes. We as we began, in order

Collin  00:42

to make this same feat, we would have to, you know, leave blah blah, blah.

Brandon  00:48

So at precisely

Collin  00:52

we arrived, yes. Are you doing me exciting things? Yeah. Oh, no. thing. It's not even exciting things. No. Well, I mean, we continue to add things to things that we want to try and do as our business. Now, and which means that we had to sit down and add a new service to our website.

Brandon  01:21

Oh, yes. Was it is it? Let's see. brella washing? Ah, ah, nothing. Okay. No,

Collin  01:41

no, unfortunately, not. No, no, no, we are. We added

Brandon  01:49

poop scooping services. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, well, we added it to the website. Oh, okay. So you'd like already? Okay, as always, like, Wait, does he do that when you walk the dog? Well, yes. Or?

Collin  02:09

We, we do add, we do this. It's included. With our neutral services. But this would be an additional like, No, there's no pets involved. We're just wanting you just want us to come over and take care of the poop that's in your backyard? Because you don't do that yourself. Oh,

Brandon  02:34

like you see, like yourself, trying to trying to take away from your servers or they rent like? Yeah, I mean, you should just do it while you're already there. Right? You can tack it on to the thing. Like, you're gonna drive all the way up to somebody else's house just to do that for like, half hour? Well,

Collin  02:58

like, well, so So yes. We will, we'll go out and we'll take care of it. Or we're probably so yeah, the hope is, is that we will be able to have this kind of intandem of talking services and offering them the service for poop scooping. So that's kind of what we'll what we'll what we'll do for our existing clients.

Brandon  03:32

I reckon it makes sense, I guess, I think about that way. Just like what what, what, drive all the way at somebody's house do that, that's a lot. But then I guess if they're, like, you know, between if they're a person that like just looks you for like, walk from their life out of town or something, then that would be like a in between service service thing, right? Like, do they still hire you to do stuff? Even if they only normally hire you to like, watch their dog and like sit there when they go out of town? If they go out of business a lot or whatever? It'd be like, in between the thing? Yes. So this

Collin  04:12

is this is also a way of getting existing clients to use us for other things. Yeah, which is which is what we want because that way they can Yeah, it kind of evens out a little bit of the of the of the unevenness in our business to

Brandon  04:38

make sense. refuse me. So nice. updating the website. Always a fun, definitely never problematic experience. I'm sure. Just wait.

Collin  04:51

Yeah, yeah, no, it's

Brandon  04:58

it's not a Um, it's not fun. Because we end up

Collin  05:07

kind of just going back and forth with with like what we're going to add. And then we end up like it just squirrels out, because all of a sudden, it's like, like, Well, the question we had when we were adding the service page, and it was like, Well, why don't we have, we should add XYZ, and in my head, I'm like, Oh, we add XYZ to this service page, it means I'm gonna have to add that to every other service page. So we have, and like, just the work kind of expands. Because then we end up because we want it to be cohesive, and we don't want to have one page look differently or have different information on it compared to another one. And because we want to be unified, and then all of a sudden, I find like when I'm updating seven different web pages, as opposed to just adding one. So that's where I start to, like, I need to take notes.

Brandon  06:01

True? Well, you know, it's a process, it'll be fine. And yes,

Collin  06:06

and I will say that, that, you know, all of this is made, I don't know if it's made better. Or if it's made worse by the fact that we have direct control

Brandon  06:27

over the website. Oh, that's a good point. Like, like, almost have like paralysis a little bit, right? Like, oh, I can do anything. Oh, wait, well,

Collin  06:39

and like, you know, I could go in and I can edit, like a letter on webpage, and then like, hit save, and then refresh it. And it's live, right? So it's like, we can do the one one tiny adjustment and make it live versus if somebody were making this a new, they'd put the whole thing together. Right? And then yeah, they, they'd make it

Brandon  07:03

like an update, like just they put it all and then yes, they

Collin  07:05

do one push update. And then it'd be it'd be good to go. So if I don't know, because I can sit there and Megan's like, oh, move this word. Like I move the word and I make it refresh. And then she's like, Okay, well, we need to correct this, like, Okay, do that. And when I push refresh, so it's a little like, you know, that's a little it's

Brandon  07:25

a little tedious, but you know,

Collin  07:28

yeah. And so we ended up like, again, like fine tooth comb, going through everything, and it makes it a little, little, you know, overwhelmed aureus. Yeah.

Brandon  07:40

This is a lot of stuff. But, yeah.

Collin  07:44

Yeah, so that's, uh, that's ice. About what's anything new and exciting in your life?

Brandon  07:52

I don't have an exciting, but I did survive the PPU. Drill the other day. It's what I called it. Oh, yeah. All right. So exciting. Right. I love being in a profession where it's like, pretty mandatory that you have to have a training about what to do if you get shot at

Collin  08:17

that. Yeah. Especially one where your last fun not a police officer? Yeah, whatever. You're not a law enforcement

Brandon  08:24

official. We're in the army. You know, yeah, this hanging out for no dollars a year, like, oh, Yo, you know, but when you get shot at like, Hold on back up just a minute there. Would you Let's Let's rephrase that sentence, please. Like, right. There's just a lot to deal with. Right. Well, I have very strong feelings about a lot of these things. And like, none of them align with like law enforcement guy, right dudes down there standard, like everyone should love guns, it they're great. Like, okay, hold on. Timeout. That's our timeout. I have different like, okay, but like, Huh, no. Right. Like, whatever. You don't want them shooting at me. You know what I mean? Like,

Collin  09:19

we do with less of that. I

Brandon  09:22

love that part. Right. And like, I get where he's coming from, because he's been like a police officer for like, 30 years. So his like, life experience is extremely different than mine. You know? So I understand that. But when you're in a room, me and you're all like, you know, you say the words. Like, I've never like he's basically his gun is like his American Express card. Right? He just never leaves home without it. Yeah, I was like, he's like, Yeah, you know, don't think that if you just like see me at church, I won't have this like what That's a weird, just way to start a conversation.

Collin  10:06

Like, well, it's kind of that the whole discussion of like, you know, that whole, like, conceal and carry, but like, I've never met a person I, the people who conceal and carry it's very rare that they would actually be able to do that because the candidate like they like talking about how they're also concealed carry, which

Brandon  10:22

defeats the purpose. Yeah, they might as well be wearing a sticker that says asked me about my concealed carry, like, well, that's not very sneaky now. But whatever. Like, he's talking about, like, you know, I like now he's like a consultant for this kind of thing. Right? And he says words like, yeah, you know, just, I, you know, the old like, I'm just wired different. Like, I, you know, I always, you know, anytime I walk into a room, I do threat assessments, like, okay, yeah, interesting. Like, I understand that you're a police officer. And like, in your line of work, that is an important thing to do. Right? I understand the value of this. But also, that sounds kind of like a miserable way to live your life. You know, like, constantly, all the time. Like, ah, all the time. Like, I don't all the time, like when you go get ice cream. Right. Like, you know, like this. They have, you know, evil

Collin  11:34

evil never takes a day off my friend. Yeah.

Brandon  11:36

I mean, in middle of nowhere, Missouri, it might, you know, right. I mean, like, again, I understand if you're like in, like, high crime city, you know, plays like this. Like, really? You know, I'm not discounting the fact that officers are in danger all the time. That's, that's not I'm talking about, like, he said all the time. I'll say what we mean, all the time. That's wild. That's, that's gonna be exhausting. Like, just just french fries. Like you have to worry about? I don't know, because weird. So that's the whole thing, right? It's already this whole thing. And then he's talking about it. Right? He says the words like consultant. And then I thought, oh, oh, I flashback to some very early episodes of the Oh, brother podcast. And I thought, I thought to myself, hmm, we're on a slippery slope here. Is this the hard problem? Right. Are we creating an industry around preparing for these catastrophes? Which means people aren't actually interested in limiting catastrophes? Oh, no, dude. This is the worst. This is the worst cyberpunk timeline that we live in really, for real, right? Like, oh, my, again, we've watched all the sci fi movies and taken the wrong message away. Right? Somebody wasn't paying attention. They like slept through half of it. And they just saw the end. Like, oh, that's part. It's cool. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, hold on. Like, wait. Yeah. Did you miss the whole? They missed the plot. Right? You just saw the part of minority report that was like shiny. And you're like, ah, the whole plot of the movie? Who cares about that? Look at shiny Tom Cruise. Like, no, no, no, no, no, no, stop. So that distressed me greatly was like, Oh, dang it.

Collin  13:54

The Bucha you know, that the military industrial complex is very real. And it needs

Brandon  14:00

like, way deeper. Yeah. Yeah. Apparently, it's coming for your education system. So that's cool. Yeah, so I was in that dystopian mindset when we began the thing, right, and it was a real is real weird. I don't know. Luckily, I got, like, just accidentally ended in a bunch of groups with some really chill people. So it was like, fine. Like, you know, it was basically like, they just ran quotes to use his vernacular scenarios. Right. And it was all about like, the good message here was like, he was like, not like, this is the exact plan that you should follow, right? In case of crisis. Which, you know, which is good because that's Not how these things work, right? You can't be like, I'm gonna stick to the plan. That's not. That's not how emergencies work, right? Like he was just thinking about, like, his main goal was to be like, Oh, think about, you know, best case scenarios for you at certain like in your environment, which, okay, fine, that's good. Right. But you know? Yeah, so the people I was with a pretty chill. And so we just sort of kind of whatever room because we'd like did through different rooms like you like if they like moved around the school to do things and then like if it wasn't your room, you're this is actually the first time I've ever done one of these where I was in my own classroom. So that's fun.

Collin  15:48

I suppose you could really get

Brandon  15:50

a sense for Yeah, but so like, it was like, really, you know, if it wasn't your classroom, you were like role playing as a student and sure, but like, we would just talk about, like, what that person's playing was just sort of like talk it out, you know, kindly, just verbally verbalize it stuff. I was fine. Um, so my experience was okay. I guess it was a little more intense for some of the people but like, it's Rachel, for me. Right? So those are like, really long, like, really long day, like, we did. We had a meeting at like, 815. Right. And then we went to the gym, or like, briefing time at like, nine. And then we did quote scenarios and exercises until like, noon. Right? Like, oh, I mean, like, the briefing. And the things like combined, but that was like three hours. And so like, and then we had lunch. And then we had like, debriefing, right? Where you like, talk to Blake one time for like, break, right? And then like, debriefing time where we all went back to the gym, to talk more about things. And like, what happened and experiences all that. But that went until like, I was like one to almost two? And then had a building meeting? Oh, no. Why? It was so much. That's too much. It was a lot. It was a whole lot. Right? Oh, man. Like, by the end of the day, we didn't really do like a lot. You know, like, I was exhausted. So tired right now. Like, if it's tough to deal with. Past stable.

Collin  18:09

It's amazing how much how exhausting it just being in a group. Like peek. I was gonna say being in public can be. Because there's so much like that, especially the kind of training that you are going through. Like, in some aspects, it is very intense. Because you are thinking through unpleasant scenarios, you are planning things you are like, it's not happy, fun, time relaxing. So it is very mentally taxing and draining on you.

Brandon  18:39

Yeah. Right. Just because of the subject matter. You know, that's a little rough, but, like, the whole thing, and then you like people want to talk about stuff. And you're like, can we talk about like, something else for a while, like, I don't know. But anyway, you know, it was it was fine. It was definitely one of the more useful one of the things we've ever done. Right? Because some of the other ones have been like, real lame, right? They were like, they were more training for I feel like for like the law enforcement people. Right. It was kind of like them coming in, like walking through the building. Kind of like understanding what the building is like, which is good. But like, I don't need to be there for that. You can do that on a Saturday afternoon. Yeah, you don't need me for that to like, walk around like, Oh, no. So so at least it was like marginally useful. Right? Definitely better. They once we've done before, right, but still, like, is very mentally draining. Like just the whole day. It's like, ah, that exists Last year, I can't you know, so that's that was it was that was my Monday. Yeah. Sorry, though. Yeah, that was fun. Yeah, that was most of its right. That's possible. But so once I did on a more pleasant note, yeah, one Sunday. Yes. Sunday, I went. And I actually met up with a bunch of friends. We like, got the old literally and figuratively got the old band back together and played a bunch of music and stuff on Sunday, like, a large part of the day, which didn't help my Monday because like my back really hurt after all. Old now, right? Because I'm old. I was like, Oh, my Sheldon. So what may or may not have prepared myself the best for Monday, but as always, most of Sunday. Oh, yeah.

Collin  21:14

So you really coming in with a chip on your shoulder? Or

Brandon  21:18

was this guitar strap indentation mostly like Oh.

Collin  21:24

So what? What what music styles? Were we playing? What was? What were you doing? Oh,

Brandon  21:28

it was just like, whatever. It's a mix of all kinds of crazy stuff. I did bust out Okay, great for this, my contribution to this. Normally, what happens is like we have a like a songbook, from like, forever ago. Right. And so we always, like we haven't actually met in like, over a year, I think, maybe, maybe like a year and a half. I don't know, check the episodes, but it's a long time ago. And so like, you know, we go through there and we look at the old songs. We're like, oh, we should play this again. We should work on that. But actually, what ends up happening is, we'd be like, oh, man, it'd be funny if we played this song is completely new. And then we just play that song. It's like, layer to play like brand new. Ah, very, very constructive. Hot. Wait, no. So we're gonna work on some like old dogs, right and stuff that we've played before. A couple of it. Some of the other guys had written we play those. But my big contribution to this was my, my playlist has taken a bit of an odd turn recently. Right? So, so um, we we were playing some Eddie money. Oh, yeah. That's right. Oh, my gosh, that's right. Your Money has definitely worked up two tickets to paradise. Yes. How did that? How did that go? I actually went really good. Okay. Awesome. I'm really great. But yeah, it was really kind of a random song. That I was like, I had learned part of it. Because I just like the main riff part, but like to kick in. Here's the weird part of how my brain works. Okay. So we Okay, as a lot of stories start with me, okay. was watching this cooking show? Right. And this? Hey,

Collin  23:40

hold on. Let me

Brandon  23:42

track here. Yeah. Stay with me here. So Susan, I were watching worst cooks in America. Right. Where they take people that really are bad at cooking. And through minute much humorous shenanigans. Right? It's like a contest to see who is like, actually the best cook. Right? What? What's

Collin  24:05

what's right, what a weird competition.

Brandon  24:07

I don't know, weird competition. I don't think they're learning how to cook. But in a contest, right? Because there's like two teams, each team has has like a chef, right? And they like teach them things. Like every episode is about like a thing, like a skill, like searing meat, or like, making pasta or like, you know, knife skills or whatever. And like, they make food. And then whoever is actually the worst goes home. And then they like, it's like, so you're like learning. It's basically like learning how to cook but in a cooking competition, which sounds horrible, right. But yeah, the shenanigans that ensue, are absolutely great. Right? So this year, there was like a theme, right? And it was like, spoiled. People, right? And a lot of them were just like, Oh, I like one of the girls or one of the girls like her like, like under her name, it was like, stay at home daughter, right? These are like we do, but one of the contestants on the show, right? Was Jessie money. who desperately is a money his daughter. Okay. Okay. And so Susan and I were like, Oh my gosh, yeah. And I was like, oh, yeah, hey, money. And then I thought for myself further, I was like, I know some Eddie money stuff. Right? I was like, what are the Eddie money songs? And then I Googled Eddie money songs. And I was like, Oh, all right. Yes, I know. All of these are great. Yeah, well, not every single one, obviously. But I was like, oh, yeah, of course. I know that anybody sounds right. So yeah. We were joking about that. And so obviously, I was listening to a lot of Eddie money, which is turned into like, just a lot of weird random ad songs, which I built all week, right? We have, like, all kinds of stuff, right? Just everywhere. A little terrifying, but. But I was like, Okay, well, I'm gonna learn how to replace some of these, like, because I've been playing guitar a lot anyway. And so I was like, I'm just gonna learn parts of these songs because they're cool. Right? In 80s, like power pop songs have like really awesome guitar parts. I like radio Rocky, like, that kind of stuff. Right? That's like, it's got really cool guitar parts in it. And they're like, not pun, like, super hard, right? I mean, I wasn't like trying to learn like Dokken or anything gay. But I did listen, some of that. But anyway. I'm not ready for George Lynch. That's just then. I was like, playing some. And then like, we were joking around in practice. And I was like, Oh, I played this the other day, and I whipped out the riff. And the guys played bass. He's like, Oh, no, we're singing that right now. He's like, What are the rest of the what's the rest of the song? Do you know the rest of the chords? I was like, what I think so. There's only three. So I think we got

Collin  27:09

we can fill in the gaps here. It's

Brandon  27:11

not filling the gaps here. We can kind of, yeah, fill in the gap. did. So we kind of, you know, just worked it up. And it's on for good, right? Didn't sound just like the record. That's fine. And so I don't need it. So it was that was the long, very tangential journey. I'd been to any money, right? I just want to say in 2024 More people need to put some respect on Eddie money. Let's do some of that stuff.

Collin  27:41

So I went and found his two tickets to paradise. Yeah, thing on YouTube. Interestingly, the second comment said, I wish I knew in 1987 how much I would enjoy any money in 2023. And I think that sums up because I'm scrolling through his different discography here and I'm like, Oh, I know a lot. Yes,

Brandon  28:05

that's what I did. I was like, I was like, I know the name Eddie money. I recognize the name I was like, what are the songs and I was like, Oh, I know that. Oh, I know that one. Oh, I know that. Oh, yes. Like a slow realization that I actually do know a lot weird like, forgot about it. Right like my

Collin  28:23

last secret super fan is this

Brandon  28:28

big perhaps a reignited the Fandom of the Eddie money

Collin  28:34

right what's wild Yeah, Jake

Brandon  28:35

is great. My spirit spread like

Collin  28:41

Barry I was not expecting to stumble across this in this manner. I'm

Brandon  28:45

I'm quite I don't know right now. Yeah, that's kind of how I felt it's time so I gotta catch watching cooking shenanigans going oh yeah

Collin  28:59

bizarre feeling I don't know what

Brandon  29:01

Yeah, it is weird right? It was really odd to be like Oh yeah. I think I know this to be like oh my gosh, yes, I forgot Yeah, this song to like that whole like process was really kinda weird.

Collin  29:15

Yeah slowly discovering like, Oh, I've actually already really deep down this rabbit hole This is bizarre

Brandon  29:23

Yeah. Oh my gosh. Go so yeah, definitely. Definitely been adding that into the rotation so definitely had an Eddie money pulled up the day at work yesterday at work right. grading papers listening to you know, okay. Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna add a subscribe to the Eddie money vivo YouTube Chango. It only has 102,000 subscribers. Well, that's not enough. Also only has 19 videos but yeah, you know, is right. You know It's fine. That's more we'll get on that. So, weird tie in here did I did not know. Okay. Daddy money. Right. actual name. I think Edward Mahoney former Adi sure I really I mean, he's, uh, yeah, but you know, here's the stage name, but I heard foreign police officer. But that's more NYT NYPD police officer. Yeah, yeah. It's how I like third generation to have you do Google in the first? The first picture is him. Is it a uniform? created, but still. Right. So that's a yes. Yes. I don't know. That's weird. Yes. It's a weird tie in here to blame. No, that's I Yeah. That's a it's it's

Collin  31:21

interesting. I don't know. I can't think of another example. As you're saying that if somebody who came into their career from like, way left field might have like, that's true. Yeah. Oh, who was who?

Brandon  31:33

I think the classic example here is Steve Buscemi. Yes, yeah. famous, famous for being a New York firefight. Right, right. That's definitely a departure. Right for for acting. Right. Yeah,

Collin  31:50

I always forget that. Yeah, that's that's such a weird because you see, I look No offense. Oh, when I see him. I don't really think firefighter

Brandon  31:58

that's No.

Collin  32:02

The house is burning down. Purse through the door. Be like, I'm sorry. I guess I'll just wait here.

Brandon  32:09

You know, I feel that because I feel like when I look I see Bush me I think the the role that best matches his like vibe sometimes. Like just the way he looks in acts a little bit is like, the human Con Air. Or he just, like creepily having a tea party and swimming pool that girl like okay, what? Yeah, yeah. No offense. No, offense, buddy, right. No offense, Mr. Machine. Me. And then once. Yeah,

Collin  32:51

I think cuz wasn't.

Brandon  32:55

Ya know, like Harrison Ford. He was, uh,

Collin  32:59

was he in carpentry? Or did building or something like that? Something like that? Yeah. I think Yeah. Like, I understand, like, people, most most big actors and of that ilk of famous people, like, they came from somewhere else. And they tried their, their, their they weren't born into a, you know, an acting dynasty, or most of them, right, like some, like, right.

Brandon  33:25

But, you know, a lot of them had just like, you know, they will wreck uh, you know, a lot of them have, like, they worked in like, this job, right. It wasn't necessarily like their career path before. But like, you know, there's some other weird ones. I was trying to see if I could Google this if there was a Google global thing. here somewhere. Right. Now, I learned here, according to this list, from cosmopolitan, which, you know, of course, Nicole Kidman was a massage therapist. And he did go boom. Hey.

Collin  34:06

It's proven. It's proven people. Oh,

Brandon  34:09

back to my list from last week. Doyle from the misfits worked in a machine shop. Go Yeah, go I know that tie in

Collin  34:24

it go to episode and unasked for pick.

Brandon  34:27

Yes. That was yes. No, though. Yes. But yeah, that is a bit of a shocker. Right. New at Newark police officer to 80s singing sensation. Right, quite the jump. Boom. Also, according to this list, from Stacker, another tie in Johnny Depp. Office Supply salesman Okay. Okay, he specifically mentions ballpoint pens here, but I've imagined there's other things involved but a guy

Collin  35:10

I don't think they just had a ballpoint pen department.

Brandon  35:16

It's true. I mean, because he must have been pretty, because he was pretty young when he was in some of the movies. So I wasn't there for very long. Oh, of course. Of course. Of course. Hugh Jackman PE teacher. Yeah, I knew that one. Goodbye one. Go to another one. Yeah. And who wouldn't want to have Wolverine as your PE coach? Yeah. How I've seen this name on two different lists. Right. So I think this means that Matthew McConaughey is officially Dad's favorite actor. Because on two separate lists, it has mentioned that Matthew McConaughey McConaughey had a job killing armadillos on a golf course. So

Collin  36:11

then I wonder like, surely did he do that for a summer? Right? That's how I think so I think that hey, that was an that was an summer job for sure. Yeah, like they throw in the list of like, you'll never believe the crazy job.

Brandon  36:29

You didn't like twice or like Oh, go kart

Collin  36:33

or his job at the at the at the golf course included doing that sometime? Yeah, he

Brandon  36:39

was actually just he was probably like grounds crew. Yeah. That sounds like and most of the time, he was probably like mowing. And then I don't know a lot about golf course maintenance, but I know that it's just like tons and tons and tons of mowing as really blowing things. Then mowing again. Then mowing shorter. Right. And then apparently, shooting armadillos and then mowing some more. Right? Like, yes.

Collin  37:12

Well, they do have to aerate in there. Don't forget about the aeration. Oh, of course. How

Brandon  37:15

can I forget air at between the mowing between them? Oh, twigs Mo's air. Air rating bitwixe. Lows. Like it? Isn't a II don't know. Yeah,

Collin  37:39

I know at a golf course out here. The residents are having a hubbub about the amount of dog poop on the golf course. Now this is not related to our discussion.

Brandon  37:54

Are you like, is this what sparked the whole thing? No, like read our spiddal article in newspaper like, residents concerned about amount of dog poop and local facilities use wet rubs hands together. Got an idea? A solve that, honey, you

Collin  38:13

know? If it were, if it were planned, we would not have been frantically throwing together an entire web webpage in 20 minutes.

Brandon  38:24

You're gonna say you didn't read this article? 30 minutes ago. Right? I didn't say that. I just turned 23

Collin  38:30

minutes ago. We were 20 minutes ago.

Brandon  38:33

No. No,

Collin  38:36

it was a it was just people are. It's so funny because the golf course is privately owned, okay, but they have the have like, three or four different HOAs that kind of surround it. And they're all like, such and such east and such and such West and like this. They're all pointing fingers at one another,

Brandon  38:59

of course that like the Spider Man meme.

Collin  39:05

Which one of us? Is it following our HOA bylaws? You?

Brandon  39:09

Probably all of you. Like

Collin  39:13

that's probably everybody. Yeah. Oh, man. They're just like, as a reminder, like, these are not public walkways or pathways. These are for golfing out late. And so the golf course is trying to like, keep everybody at peace and like calm because like the golf course is its own entity, right? They're their own entity. And then the HOAs are just surrounded. It's so there. They have their rules about what's allowed. So they're trying to get the HOAs to enforce these rules. And it's all just like, you write a letter. Now you write another letter, just a bunch of letter writing. It's super passive, aggressive remarks. That's fantastic.

Brandon  39:54

It's so beautiful. Just imagine some of those letters well All changed said like, oh, no, no, no. Let's stop. Hold on we gotta

Collin  40:07

Well, yeah, that's all it's gonna be is they're just going to be self policing. You know each other and this is a yes what Yes, everybody could just eat yourself that's what you need to do and that's that's let's let's solve the world's problems right now is that there was some poop next have you know the tea box on on hold number five? Yeah, absolutely whatever could

Brandon  40:28

you do? Move the tea over? Oh no, oh no well

Collin  40:37

think of all the things you'd have to change, which wouldn't be the same, okay?

Brandon  40:41

She's golf, it's nice to be that we did we had a controversial discussion about this on the show to maybe not even real sport right or who knows what's going on here like I didn't know unknown real like how, like how the golf course isn't the one upset about it, too, right? It's like the other people that aren't the golf course? Well, because I play golf, and I'm like, Oh, my God. And then of course, they just play the person that lives on the other side of the golf course. Yes, it was them there. Which doesn't make sense because it's closer to your side, but it's their fault

Collin  41:39

because I think I think ultimately, the golf course realizes the futility of this argument. They can't be policing this at all hours of the day. Yeah. Also, stray dogs are a thing, because yeah,

Brandon  41:51

that's true. Right? Like, nobody's dog is out there. Like you can't blame anybody if it's just a stray dog. Right? Tramp is out here being like, black like,

Collin  42:01

exactly. What are you gonna do? You're gonna fly drones 24/7 To make me I should probably give him trolling audio. No, like, like, oh, my

Brandon  42:11

gosh, drones policing. The golf course is another just like, super dystopian thing that I don't really want to think about right now. I think you mean like, amazing thing? No, it's like very dystopian, right? Like, all that neighborhoods are like dark. And there's like quiet hours and all that. So because homeowners associations, you can't be loud past like 730. Right? You can't like have lights on? Yes. There's like really arbitrary rules, like your flag has to be three inches away from your door. Who knows? Like? So there's like this locked down neighborhood. And there's just like, drones like flying in a zigzag pattern up and down the golf course. Like spotlights on the ground? Looking for armadillos and or dogs? Right?

Collin  42:56

I already feel better. I don't know. Flying

Brandon  42:59

in the grid pattern. Look, look,

Collin  43:03

you've already sold me. You don't have to go any further. I would. Much. Somebody said to say, Oh, well, I know what we'll do. We'll just put out we'll just put out bags. That way they can pick them up. Of course, that's why I was like, Do you want more people to do it? Because if you put out bags, you're kind of saying, hey, come over here where there are poop bags and let you die. Right. I think we're missing the Spirit and not just the spirit. But the letter of the bylaw, which is no dogs allowed to put poop bags out. Kind of defeats the purpose if people

Brandon  43:45

are weird. Yeah, that was a big thing. I'm also just trying to superimpose this reality on the golf course here because like our golf course here, like abuts the park. Right. So like, if there's like, like, people walk on the golf course all the time. Also, somewhat confusingly. There's like, okay, so like, on on part of the golf course, there's, like a path thing. It looks like the cart path, but it's not the cart path. It's actually part of like, the trail thing, like the, you know, like the green trail or whatever it's called. Like, it goes like around the edge of the golf course. Kinda. Right. And like, and then it goes in through the park. You know, I think the golf course is like next to it. Yeah, like, what it's like not the cart path, but it looks exactly like the cart path. So there's all these random signs that are like, Oh, this isn't the cart. Like this is not the path over there. Like wrong one. Other way yeah, like this is the cart path like that I could like put lines or something on it like I don't know, paint it maybe I'm do something like, because it's like this strip of concrete versus this other strip of concrete that looks exactly the same. Other

Collin  45:14

yet nondescript combined, easily identical

Brandon  45:17

one you can like cycle and run on. The other one is for golf carts. There's not really a discernible difference. And the both groups of people, there's and then the to make it even more confusing, right? There's like, these separate, but seemingly similar paths through one side, right. But then the other side of the golf course is on the other side of the highway. There's like a tunnel. Right? But right, yeah, you could have a tunnel. Yeah, we have a tunnel that goes under the highway to the other side of the golf course. But that tunnel, like, so you have these two paths, they use the same tunnel. And then they come out the other side? Like the same path on both sides? And then it like, okay, no, then. And then the normal path goes that way, like around the edge. And the other one is like, the cart thing is like, what? That doesn't watch. Watch.

Collin  46:29

Somebody sat down and went Now look here, people. This we have two paths that make way too much sense.

Brandon  46:35

Yeah. So we're gonna, like keep them separate. We're going to merge them into one. And then we're going to diverge them again later. Just to add to the confusion. Right, like?

Collin  46:56

Be having things make too much sense around here, because then people would get ya.

Brandon  47:00

True, it'd be to make too much sense. Me too. user friendly. We can have that. Speaking of we just had a special bond voting thing for the city. Yeah, so basically, the city came before

Collin  47:24

the citizens, its citizens and said citizens, ah, we've got this wastewater treatment plant over here. And we own it, we operate it. And it's getting old. And we are kind of, we're not really hitting the water quality requirements, or the effluent that comes up outside. And if we continue to do this, the DNR is going to step in and mandate that we pay a private company to manage this and take this control away from us.

Brandon  48:02

Oh, so bad. We can either

Collin  48:09

just go that route, and just wait for this whole thing to basically implode. Or we could do something about it. We would like for you to decide if we can spend $60 million and the bond the bond is writtens.

Brandon  48:25

Okay, look, Ah,

Collin  48:28

I understand that like, they basically they said, We need $60 million, or something could be up, we could maybe buy more land, we may also sell some land, we may we may repair the current facility, or expand it or demolish it and build a new one. Or something in between all of that. But we just we think it'll some combination of all of that will be about $60 million, please.

Brandon  48:59

Huh? It's a very, very, very rough estimate.

Collin  49:06

very raw, but they didn't come before the city and say, here are the three plans we've drawn up here. Like they just said like 60 million for something. Thanks. Huh? Smells like. Smells like how money gets laundered right as I just get. Right. Right. Right. Like, okay, I'm sorry. So we can't hold your feet to the fire or anything. And it's tough for me because I'm like, okay, recognize that. Yeah, I like having clean drinking water and being responsible for things

Brandon  49:41

definitely don't want a fluid effluent in my drinking water. Right. Those might be separated, please. Oh,

Collin  49:47

that's sorry. That was the other thing of Currently, our town has a mixed stormwater system. So all the gutters, oh streets, go through our treatment. Land. Oh. And because that's the that was the old way it was the cheaper way of doing it. Just send it. Yeah, we, we couldn't possibly use all of that capacity. Well, Oh, oops. So we are, and that's what's causing a lot of the water quality issues. And so part of the $60 million may also include a whole whole new stormwater system to divert all some or most of the water of the plant.

Brandon  50:31

Now, I feel like that probably can't be included for that same price. Right? I feel like that's right. So I feel like I fit Yeah, I'm with you, I feel like the correct way to do this, right is say, Okay, we would like $60 million, right? For, here's option A, for the $60 million, we could have this, right, option B for $60 million, we could have this thing, or Option C $60 million buys this thing, right? Like, like, say what, like each, like, break it down and say this, okay, under this plan, that $6 million will be used for blah, you know, under this plan, it would be used for this, and then over here, it'd be these things like different, right? Like that would be the, the actual way to do this, if you want people to actually give you money. Well,

Collin  51:31

and I understand from their perspective of, it's hard to get an engineering firm to come in and do that kind of specs without some level of commitment or knowing. So like, they can't get too far in the process before they're going to start needing to put up real money.

Brandon  51:50

That's true, but at least they could have, like, at least done like, even just like a, like drawn up a puzzle. You know, thing like, oh, this proposal would be this, this one would be this, this one would be this, like, even just the options are just like, oh, yeah, it might be this. Or it could be this thing, kind of maybe a little bit, right, at least, like explain the three options. Better, right? Because you don't need an engineering firm do that.

Collin  52:16

This was the, there's no thought into this. There's no preconceived ideas. There's just we need $60 million for something to help the water supply. Because what's probably going to happen is, is they only asked for 60 million, and people approved it. And what they're going to probably find is, it's going to need to do a combination of something. It's No, it'd be like 100 million, and boys more, it's always hard. And then they're gonna have to come back to the boilers. It's always more, right. They're gonna have to come back to the people and say, Hey, we didn't ask for enough money the first time because we didn't have all of our ducks in a row. So we just need to ask for $40 million more. But then the problem is, is that prices go up? Yeah, he's, and then they're gonna go, Hey, we've asked for $100 million for this project. It's now 150.

Brandon  53:11

We got it this time. So yeah, I mean, this okay, here's the other thing that is like wonky. And like, shady, it doesn't make any sense to me. Right. But it and yet, it is a practice that just continues and no one cares about it, is that when somebody tells you, when you get somebody to come and build you a thing, right? And they tell you how much money it's going to cost you. They are lying to your face. Right? It is never, it is never price. They're quoting you a price, right? But in order to get the job, what's often happening is they are undercutting the actual price to make it sound appealing to you. So that you will hire them to do it. Right. And then they're like, oh, man, yeah, we didn't foresee this happening. Right? And then the cost goes up and up and up again, like no construction projects ever. Come in. It's just a big one. But no, no large construction projects ever. Come in, like, on or under budget. Right. It just doesn't happen. Right. And part of the reason that it doesn't happen is these contractors are lying to you. Oh, yeah, we could probably do it for this. No, no, they're just like rough estimates pull numbers out of nowhere, right. They're like Oh, yeah, we could do that for free. No 45 Maybe open something. Oh, no, you cannot you absolutely cannot you are You sir are liar. Right like

Collin  54:52

because they there's no real incentive for them to to not do that. Right. Because there's no repercussions for that. Yeah, well, they're working with a city, municipality, municipality, or even worse, the federal government who now has almost in an infinite amount of patients for overruns, and they're just, they're just fine with it. And it's good speech, whatever. It's just part of what we do deal with it to write the check. We were this far in, we gotta do this. Otherwise, we're not going to finish this on time or whatever, whatever, whatever it's like, and then they can move on to the next project and leave the town or the government just sitting there. Because they don't care. And

Brandon  55:35

it's so so frustrating. Yeah, it's ridiculous. And there's no regulation. There's no nothing there's no consequence for them for doing that for like, basically breaching contract all the time and being like, oh, sorry, it's out of our hands. Yeah, like, one. Like there's no oversight for this. None. None. This feels this feels very like 60s mob. Like everything is just like, oh, yeah, will you gotta hire me because bla bla bla, right. This is like, What? What? What's happening? Is no regulation on this. Oh, because somebody knows somebody who's closing on the thing. And then their cousin is like a senator somewhere and they don't want the law. Like that's the big. C You really enjoy this. Yeah, that's right. We are the dystopia. That's how it works. Right as well. It's like, yeah,

Collin  56:45

we just keep circling back to this.

Brandon  56:47

Again. Goodness. Yeah. All right. That's really impacted you. Yeah, right. It's a lot more than I thought. I guess I was very.

Collin  57:02

Ah, so yeah, it's Oh, so with that said, obviously, it passed. And with this is where these kinds of things are just an utter joke. Because again, like, we went and voted, and it seemed kind of busy. So I was like, okay, cool. Well, over 7% of the population voted for this. Seven 7% voted, and said, Yes, we will spend $60 million. Now, regardless of how you voted, it doesn't matter like to know that 7% of the people determined this morning to hire for the entire area is like, that's, that's not okay. Like, that's you talking about, like, rigging elections or whatever. That's a couple buddies getting together, like in a group, a school group or a block on a street getting together and all decide they're gonna vote the same way to move it one way or the other. When the numbers are that small.

Brandon  58:12

There's a little Tammany Hall, right.

Collin  58:16

It's like, it doesn't take a but you know, a few people to swing that one way or the other.

Brandon  58:23

Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah. Great. Thanks, everybody. For not showing up. Thanks for not that, like Well, yeah, that is, that's pretty frustrating. But hopefully, hopefully,

58:43

it'll be fun. You know, maybe quest.

Collin  58:53

Yeah. With like, no timeline. Again, there was no timeline in this about like, when Oh, of course, now this is going to handle the star.

Brandon  59:01

What would we be? Yeah, none of that was? Why would you put that in there? That's like useful information. Why would you want that we want to inform people is one Womp womp.

Collin  59:20

The other the other thing that I've been doing this week that I do not recommend anybody do is to have a business where you have people who are needed at 6am and in the evenings and have two different service locations, and then hire and staff members are those morning and evening times. Because it does, it does mean that in the mornings, you're in one service location, and then you drive two hours to get to the last service location and you have to try to drive two hours back to that first location so you can be there for the 6am visits and the next day, and you repeat this process

Brandon  59:59

less. Ah, yes to this. Yeah. That's about Yeah, that's bats.

Collin  1:00:05

Don't recommend this. No.

Brandon  1:00:08

Adults really die. Oh, no. So, yeah,

Collin  1:00:16

that's been. That was That's my couple days. Just like, okay, okay, go back. Now I gotta go back and like I go back and we have so many new people that some people haven't even completed their onboarding process to where like we're fully comfortable with like, what do we say onboarding process it, that may take a couple months before they're comfortable doing visits without any help or oversight, which means every time a new client comes on board, we have to step back in and shadow them for one visit. And that's not a big deal. But like, that disrupts your entire day when

Brandon  1:00:54

you're like, Yeah,

Collin  1:00:55

I don't have anything to do on Tuesday. Do you have a lot to do on Tuesday because one class somebody needs to be shadowed somewhere. But also you have to be in three different places at the exact same time so we'll

Brandon  1:01:08

have fun things I don't Bowser, I don't recommend this I don't so don't do it. That's basically it doesn't sound pleasant. I'll give you that definitely does not sound like happy fun time here Oh, I did another thing I forgot I was fine. But the third thing I did this weekend was extraordinarily busy for me. I don't I so so I'm gonna preface it this way I broke a 20 plus year streak right okay I broke my I broke my streak of not being in Bolivar was held it for a long time but you know it's no more right we're done

Collin  1:02:02

you know how we used to make fun of dad for like swearing off entire restaurants for random reasons. Yeah, I'm just thinking about that you know how you know I have no

Brandon  1:02:16

I have no like personal qualms against Bolivar I did or haven't been there like the last time I was there. I think I think from what I can recall the last time that I know for a fact I was in Bolivar is when I went on a road trip to Canada with my friends after we graduated high school. Okay. That is the last confirmed time because I remember stopping in Bolivar at a gas station and I bought a coke. I know that happened. Okay. Right. So I don't know. I know we've I've been through there before that because like we used to go to Kansas City that way. Yep. 13 right. And you just like would go like right by Bolivar right there. Yeah, but have to Yeah, there's the old 13 highway right now. It's really have too nice. Yeah, now was like you kind of go like, buy it old 13 How it was like right through but I'm like, hang on to the middle. So I went to Bolivar why? Well, so Susan's niece's daughter at a choir concert. Oh, cool. We went to the choir concert so they just moved to Bolivar in January so she's joined the choir in an attempt to have acquaintances in Bolivar I guess friends making so they had a choir concert so we went to that and it takes his mother all the way to Bolivar so that's fun but I mean yeah barely was like super rainy and gross but we did we got involved here so there we go. i Yeah, that was my streak. I have not been to Bolivar and for a long time, so I went again, high school is very nice. And that's about I saw the high school and we drove through town to get there but kind of a weird town right it was like really dark so I couldn't see a lot of Bolivar so I don't know. I have no really review of Bolivar the guy at Sonic was nice. They go dye job Bolivar Sonic guy.

Collin  1:04:28

already used coverage we have here. Yes.

Brandon  1:04:33

But the important information here is that it was like a I don't know if it was like a fundraiser concert thing because there wasn't like a ton of people there and it was a lot of like, solo acts. Right? It felt a little talent show. He felt like it was official inquiry. It was like, they called it like something like pop. Right? So it was like pop songs like you know, they were like singing Like, pops on things, right? It's kind of cool, right? They got to show off and stuff. But the best, the best part of this, right? There's a program, right? Boom program as always people. One kid, right? Original Song composition. Okay. Cool. All right. Let's see another kid had already saying one other guy did an original song right? So that's kind of neat, right comes out. Sits down dressed in a different costume different wearing slacks and a trench coat. Right? He sits down the piano starts playing. Never Gonna Give You never gonna let dag Rick Roll by a high schooler at a choir concert nice. I was pretty funny.

Collin  1:06:01

Swell. Swell drink

Brandon  1:06:03

is pretty good. Pretty good job. props for that. Yeah, it was pretty funny. I'm not gonna lie. Ah.

Collin  1:06:15

How did the How

Brandon  1:06:16

did the crowd take this? They thought it was fine to who's laughing good. chuckling so it was good. Whenever really good, though. There's a lot of good singing. I guess. So. Yeah, that's the other thing I did I tricked to Bolivar right.

Collin  1:06:32

I learned survived you

Brandon  1:06:34

live to test survived. I learned via the sign in the middle of the commons area that is adjacent to the auditorium, that that at one point, there was a dedication of the statue of Simone Bolivar with like one of the presidents of South America and Harry Truman. It was like whole speech. The whole thing. Boom, there they go. I didn't know that. So many was the cause of Venezuela maybe. And Harry Truman gave speeches at the statue dedication, because for some reason, all of her misery is named after Simone Bolivar. South American revolutionary. Sure, yeah.

Collin  1:07:30

You don't you don't have a plaque clarifying that at all. It's

Brandon  1:07:33

just didn't say no, they hadn't think about like the football team changing the name. And like, whatever but like, I used to be like the Tigers or something. Right. And the you know, Tigers is so overplayed, though, right. Just take that. But yeah. Do you guys see more? You know that? Right? Yeah, are still a little unclear on that. Because I did it. Maybe I didn't read the right sign for that part. I don't know. But I was like, Harry Truman. What in the world?

Collin  1:08:05

definitely sounds like there's a step in that story.

Brandon  1:08:08

Yeah, I feel like there is like there is right it does said it just said the town gets its name from I was like, why not? That's not to say that. She's dropped that in there. Then. That tells me why like, I don't know. So no, still investigation is still ongoing. But I have learned that Harry Truman was involved somewhere so there we go. One more piece of more

Collin  1:08:41

I'm gonna say is this so these these Oh, brother road trips are going to be epic is meet all the sonic guys going to

Brandon  1:08:53

learn the history they don't want you to know like surely him or just forget to tell you like, you know. Yeah, it's true. Plan. Like it have to sneak over there. It's not really a direct route from Bolivar to like, Cape Girardeau. But we'll make it work. Yes, that's Yeah. understatement

Collin  1:09:15

of the century. Not as direct.

Brandon  1:09:21

Fine. Fine.

Collin  1:09:23

I still would like to go to Maura to the some really cool conservation areas out in case she doesn't add or to

Brandon  1:09:32

be fun. I think that's true. I have not spent a lot of time out in eastern Missouri. And I still have people. That's true. I mean, if you're driven through eastern Missouri, that's because it's mostly just field. Yeah, but turns out the field of field Yeah, yeah, yeah, you thought other prizes was your head farming? Oh no. Buckle up, buckle up because that is where it really gets going. Right it's really like that's your that's your cruise control. Yeah, yeah. Lots more lots more of that. Are there we can we have a lot of like cow based activity I feel like right opponent in like northern Missouri has like a different vibe but like eastern Missouri it's just like a whole different beast altogether it just feels different completely once you get to West Plains it's like oh man what is happening? Like Well, I don't even get me started on Sikeston Yeah, like what yeah. Oh poor Sikeston they try to you know, sure hard but ya know. Deal with Ken So let's figure out how to incorporate that out plus the highway five longest route in Missouri trip Hi, I got to get that combined

Collin  1:11:12

Yeah, you know I'm realizing that these will probably need to be separate

Brandon  1:11:16

separate entities fair. Fair. At least maybe more than that. Yeah, I don't think we're going to be able to fit everything that we need to that's okay. That's okay. So stay tuned for like this Ah, gosh yeah for Colin Colin podcasting for Van his goal, his life goal just for he's always wanted one of these days.

Collin  1:11:50

I found okay. So no, I mean, sometimes you just need to find ways to decompress from the day and sometimes that means that you do a Facebook marketplace search for nearby trolleys for sale. What's

Brandon  1:12:08

what's Oh, are there any like there's that's a nonzero number. Like not not you're

Collin  1:12:18

not expecting that right. Like it was not? Yeah, no, I will say that the trolleys that are mostly for sale are like they are bus based replicas of actual trolleys. So it's a it's where they they they took a bus and then like retrofitted it to look like and trolley will still

Brandon  1:12:42

this is a bigger number than I had anticipated.

Collin  1:12:46

And I got very excited about this prospect from obviously many reasons, but I was obviously well yeah, I was just like, well that's what I need in my life like I need up the trolley and think of all the things we could do with a trolley and you know and the fun that could be had it could be the it could be part of our poop scooping with and seems

Brandon  1:13:21

a bit impractical for all that but you know who am I to know these

Collin  1:13:33

display do as I scroll on Facebook and I try and find random random things and I like impractical vehicles right like how far how many of these are out there? Are they willing to to negotiate somebody an offer

Brandon  1:13:55

beginning a crucial step here. How to not be killed by my wife if I come home yeah fourth step

Collin  1:14:10

you know, one to one at a time right find trolley. Step two don't be killed bringing trolley home

Brandon  1:14:18

it's all it's all just a bit of a process. It's fine. Fine. I would well alright Ah. Oh dear. Oh dear. Well, before you retire for the evening and continue your via killer searches. May I send you on your way with a haiku? Perhaps? Oh, indeed. Indeed. Oh, convenient. After to half if

Collin  1:14:51

some if somebody Yes. You knew of somebody who had one prepared.

Brandon  1:14:55

Lovely way you go. Alright, so I didn't have enough info to write one on Bolivar live feature maybe in the future. We'll get one but I got one here, right. I'm gonna read it. See if you can figure out what it's about. Okay, it is from last week's episode I am hope kynges on gold mysterious confections cure heart wins today.

Collin  1:15:40

Is it Don Juan DeMarco? Is it honest?

1:15:57

Oh, okay. Okay. Yeah, really? Oh, boom got omega. Nice. Like a lot

Collin  1:16:09

to your heart wins the day. Yeah. So I still like what a weird ending to that movie. Like, yes. Yes. Like, wait, like, they told you like, I had to pause it and like, turn to the kids and be like, he actually is fine. It's all like, it was all a show because he was testing it. Because he's, I'm not really sure why he needed to do all that. But he's doing it and it's going to be Yeah,

Brandon  1:16:30

you know, we're not sure why. Either. could have just like,

1:16:38

had him write an essay. You know, like, cite as a contest.

Collin  1:16:46

asked for some references.

Brandon  1:16:47

Yeah. Actually had to accidentally send one to an incinerator. You know, didn't have to turn it into a blueberry. Right, like these things could have been avoided.

Collin  1:17:02

A bit much, but here we are. And for the better. Maybe, yeah,

1:17:08

yes, it probably.

Collin  1:17:09

That's what I'm led to believe.

Brandon  1:17:11

That's what, that's what. That's what they told me. So we'll go with that.

Collin  1:17:19

I like it, much to reflect on and I'll send you over some trolleys that maybe you could go to All right. Wonderful. confectionaries. Nice to love confections. So who doesn't? Love you