where are all of the TV magicians?

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tuba concert, Kansas City, Kauffman Center, largest gathering, brass instruments, Christmas songs, Springfield Symphony, minimalist design, theater week, Christmas Carol, Muppets connection, alternate versions, holiday challenge, top five, Christmas songs

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Brandon, Collin

Collin  00:05

Music. Welcome to Oh brother, a podcast where we try to figure it all out. Your hosts, Brandon and Collin on this week's show, where have all the TV magicians gone ahoy. How's it going? I'm pretty good. How are you I am? Well, I am. We've been driving a lot. Yes, it is the season four. Yeah, driving anywhere, especially when your job is helping take care of people's things who are not at their house so well. And actually, um, it's not even from that. Um, of course, over over Thanksgiving, it was quite intense. And then over into the next week, which I guess would have just been, yeah, no, over the next week, this last week, yeah, I had to think about that too. I was like, where earlier this week? Yeah, five days ago, six days ago. It was a little bit of that, but I haven't been doing a whole lot since then, no, no, it is also the time of year where there are a million things to do. And yeah, we have been trying to do all of them. So from where we live, we had to drive an hour and a half into Kansas City to go see, I'm just gonna put this out there. Had to or, I'm sorry, there were 400 tubas in euphonium in the room. We had to see this. He this was glorious. I, I have never been to such a thing, um, but this was, and I don't even know where Megan found this. But can we I, I'm surprised that Megan is the one that found this. Let's be honest here. This is, this is the most shocking revelation you've laid out so far. Is it Megan is somehow responsible for this occurring? That is almost unbelievable, really, I think I Yes, so I'm sure somewhere I was in the background going, Oh, tuba, perhaps, but she did find this. And so we drove to the Kauffman Center in Kansas City to go to their hall. And first off, I had never been there, and I also didn't know there were two separate performing halls at the Coffman that that could be. So an important bit of information. We pull up and there are, it's, of course, it's Kansas City. So there are school busses for blocks around corners. The parking is insane. And we're like, oh my goodness. Like, I didn't know the tuba concert was this intense. And we're just kind of meandering around. We go up, we go into, we follow a bunch of people into a hall, and we say, Oh, we're here for general seating. And the lady said, What school are you with? And we said, oh, we're not with a school. And then we paused, and we went, Wait, what's this performance for? She was like, Oh, well, this is the substance. I didn't pay attention. I was like, oh, no, we're here for the tuba thing. And she was, oh, that's in the other Hall across the way. Did they have signs anywhere for any of this? No, of course not. Well, they're probably named, like a name, like, it's like, is it like a dude's name? That's usually what these are. They're like, the gym buoy concert hall. And you're like, I don't know where that is. That is not helpful. Can you give me, like, East concert hall? That would be great. That would be very helpful, or at least have some signs of, you know, tubas this way. Tubas this, this low brass. Yeah. So it's a beautiful, beautiful performance haul. It's, it's, they have two different ones. One is for, specifically for musical performances, and then the other one is where they've got, is more Theater, where they have and everything, okay. And so this was a true performance hall with, like, it's all wood, with how everything is, yeah. And like, it was so cool to be in here. And. And the way they have the seating you can sit like, where, where we sat, which was basically looking on top of the performers heads. You can come all the way alongside the stage and look at them. And that was the best angle to go and view this. And I do have to mention a couple things about this in 2018 they set the record for the most tubas playing at the same time. Well, I mean, with over with 820 something playing, yes, yes, not here. They played that at like an arena downtown, still, still. And this is a by their calculations. And I they are the experts, so I'm not going to push back against them. They said that this is the, this is the largest gathering of tubas on an annual basis. Yeah, and how many feet of brass This is? Yeah, I know, right. Like I was looking at, you know what a C tuba is, and I'm like, oh yeah, this is 1000s and a half, yeah, of brass, whoa. And the the whole thing is, they just get together. They get together that morning, and so the tuba players have to pay $10 to attend, and then they show up that morning, they practice exactly one time, and then they show back up to go over through everything again for the actual performance. And now these aren't, these aren't hard things. They're like, you know, still getting 400 people on the same page, yeah, right. That's tricky. And it was pretty cool to see all the different varieties of that was my next question. Was there? So this was just like random people showing up. What? This wasn't like a Okay, so that's my question. That's my big question that I have here is the the compositional nature of what kinds of tubas were there listeners? This is about to get very nerdy, so nerding out alert over brass instruments impending. But just in case you were unaware, there are several different kinds of tuba, right? They are. They're tuned in different keys. Yeah, so I had to double check here because I forgot one of them. But yeah, we normal tubas. You have F, E flat, C and B flat, obviously. But then you have, like the contrabass tubas. Yes, that are, like the big which, like the double C, double B flat tuba, right? Or there's even, like, a base tuba, which is, like, really big, but, like, yeah. So I wanted to know, like, what was it like, a mix of all different kinds of them. Could you tell? Did they say, like, so, I don't know. I will say that as a production note for future audiences. And look, this is this was great. This was fantastic. Let's just get straight to the point real quick. Here opening number, I was crying because you can't you. It was so beautiful. So, like, mind blowingly impactful to be, like, the fact that you were getting hit in the face with, like, 29 hertz of note. It was like, mega low. Just like, mega low, and just how, because, what happened. What happened was it went from, like, of course, like, dead silent, right, yeah, raise the baton, boom. First note, I wanted to, like, just jump up. Like, I was just like, oh, like, yes. This is literally everything I wanted. But they had, it was mostly so down on them here. So that's good, yeah, sorry, no, it was, oh my gosh, it was gorgeous. So they mostly down, and it was the arrangement of this was a little different, but they had the KU tuba group was they sat immediately around the conductor. So they were kind of the leaders of everything, yeah, and there were 14 members of that, then literally everybody else was just strangers who wanted to show up to do this, yeah? And, like, one guy drove from over two and a half hours away to be a part of this. There were obviously people who were like, part of local bands or whatever, or there was a guy, so they did a Who's the youngest performer and Who's the oldest performer? Okay, youngest performers there, 10 years old. Nice. Oldest performer there. He had been playing the tuba for 80 years, and he was 92 nice. There we go. And he was there with his son, so you could tell they were and they were sitting next to each other, playing so some family members and stuff, but kind of immediately around the the conductor were mostly, I'm going to say. Like C's and B's, from what I could tell then, then they had some euphonium there as well. And then I think they had a couple baritone most of the what was immediately in front of the conductor, going all the way back to the wall, were all the C's, B's, E's, F's, like those, there were no contras or double bass. Then against the wall is when they had the F is a big, it's a interesting one, right? Yes. Then against the wall they had sousaphones. And, yeah, nice. I love me a sousaphone. Like, not gonna lie, I hear people I love a sousaphone, then up in the like loft area and coming around the sides, that's where the rest of the euphonium and baritones were, okay, so those were up higher, and the base all like the base, base was right there, and then coming up higher above and wrapping around were the baritones and euphoniums. And it was neat just to see all the different varieties of those two, you know, some were the traditional, you know, in your lap base. Some were more of a horn, like there saw a few of those, which I thought was very interesting for the for more of the the marching styles, but yeah, so I didn't, I was kind of hoping that I was going to see any a big one there. Yeah, Wagner tubas or Wagner Wagner any No, no, no Wagner's. Those are pretty rare. You don't see a lot of those. Those No, no, if I would have seen one of those, I would not have come home, I mean, but that was so that was, that was the general arrangement. But I would say that it's hard. There were so many baritones and euphoniums, probably more of those than the actual CS and Bs and Fs. But, I mean, the number of people that just would own a tuba, I can't imagine, is an exceedingly high number. I mean, apparently it's, you know, large. They have a very large number to break a record. But, like, yeah, I would imagine all these people have to come around because, like, owning a tuba is a commitment to, oh, a lot of a lot, right? Like, cheap, right? This is a very, they even made a joke about it, because we played the they played the sleigh ride, you know. And he was like, We came all the way from Kansas. We had no room. Things were strapped to the roof. They were held in our laps, praying we didn't hit a heavy, you know, a big bump. We didn't have any room for the other quintessential, most important instrument as part of his piece, the whip. When I point to you, I need you to clap, done? Oh, there's plenty of plenty of humor there. They started off by saying, a very merry Christmas. Tuba. You good? And then they had the they put the end. They said, What's better than one ba tuba? Oh, no. Or he said, How do you what are we going to and don't worry if something's broken. We have a tuba glue in the back. No, oh, it's glorious. It made me so happy. No, it's like, you know what? You know what this bad humor. It cuts cross cultures, people, right? So we listened to it for they had, it was an hour long. The the big ensemble had 12 songs, but in the middle of there they had the KU group play. And that's where you really got to see, like, Oh, you don't usually hear tubas doing that kind of thing, right? Yes. Like, yeah, they played the thing, but the TSO version or whatever. Oh yeah, yeah. So they played that, and you don't hear tubas going through, not often, no, often you don't hear like big stick. It's mostly like whatever. So that was pretty cool. And to hear. Everything put together that way was very beautiful. And then they would the way they had it structured was for each of the other more normal Christmas songs, they'd play through it once, and then the songs, the lyrics, would show on a screen. You could sing along. So that was kind of fun, nice. But yeah, yep, it's in the running for one of the best renditions of silent night is when 400 tubas are playing it. Oh yeah, you know, lots of close seconds I imagine in there. Wait, wait a minute. It was very good. Of course, you know, there were times where, because, you know, there's just, there's just so many, you're just, it's kind of going, I am searching for the thing right now. Yeah, I can't. Oh, there it is. Found, found the through line. Found where we're headed with that's why you need some of, I imagine that's why you need some of the euphoniums and stuff, right? To have the higher line to give it more like depth in the sound. Because, not saying that tubas don't have a broad range, but yeah, well, to hell, they do, right? They have a surprisingly broad range. I think you might be surprised about how high a tubing play, but like, it's not like, you know, again, it's not like screaming high everything but, but you need to add some more, like, Sonic layers in there to make it a little bit more list of what I would imagine, right, some diversity in the the range to sort of open it up a little bit, yes, yeah, it was, that's where it's like, okay, if this was just like tuba, that would be kind of, I'd be interesting to hear what they would do with that. But the euphoniums, the baritones, was good, and so it was neat to see. And they had the, they had three different conductors, like the, he's the professor of tuba at KU, of course. I mean, how did that guy, NaVi there? Like, he was there, and this was his last one, because he was retiring. And it was like, Oh, that's really sad. Uh. But then they had the new professor of tuba, like, we're fine, everything's fine. And then they had the tuba player for the Kansas City Symphony. Was also nice. And they also, they weren't just conducting. They would take turns conducting and then playing in the group. So, okay, cool, yeah, so you could not that you could hear them over, but yeah, but it would be, yeah, but no, it's good that they were also playing as a part of it. I think that's just neat, right? Because, like, that doesn't happen in like, choir things. Because when you go to, like, choral ensemble, things like that, the director or conductor will come out, and then they'll conduct, and then they like, leave. There's like, bounce out the door, like, see you later. They don't like, hop up on stage and, like, also sing, right? They just like, bye and they run away. So I think it's cool that they did that. Yes, yeah. And you can imagine for all of the students and younger kids there, or even some of the others, like, that's kind of a big deal to have, oh yeah, those people there of like, oh yeah, you're doing like, a job that I would like or like I aspire to do what you're doing, kind of thing, and to be around them and to listen to them and be in that group, like that'd be pretty fun to be a part of. Yeah, I think so that's neat. And then, of course, the kids were asking if there were any other large gathering of instruments like this. And I was like, gotta be honest. Probably, like, but I don't know how I don't want to be in the room with 400 oboes, if we're being very real. But like, what about cellos? Though? Cellos, I could do. Cellos string instruments would be fine. No. Like, piccolos and flutes. Probably, yeah, nope, nope. Hard out, nope. Timpani players, I guess, would be kind of I do, like law, yes, which is so we, we went to that highly recommend. I think we're gonna try and go again next year. Just get that so it's fun. And then when the buyer you're gonna get a tuba before next year. One of the coolest parts about this was, this is kind of a nerdy thing to go to, kid. Don't say, I say this is a bad nerd. Yeah, I'm like, not slagging off. I'm just agreeing that, yes, I was sitting there, and I was just like, look up to these things, you know, people's, you know, their parents and grandparents there to watch them play, and people, you know, the some teachers are there to see their kids perform, and or just people like us showing up, being like, you know what? Yeah, that's what I need in my life, too. But. Right, you know? Well, we're sitting there and this behind us, we hear a guy go. He goes, he goes, What do you think Ryan and this kid must have been, like, three or four? He just belts out, yeah. I mean, they go. He was so excited for tuba. Maybe I could just, like, sneak the school tuba out, right? And like, we're gonna go play like, Yeah, and just totally like, Yeah. Of course, I know how to play this, yes. So here's my $10 I'm encouraging everybody to do a tuba Christmas. You don't need that many tubas. You don't need 400 um, but to put on you need a tuba, right? I need one. And now, getting a tuba, oh, is, in and of itself, quite difficult, right? Like, where I don't, like, I can't You can't just, like, walk around in every store and just buy a tuba. You know, they're like, I mean, they're like, nine grand, like 10, I mean, yeah, like, this is the problem. Well, you could probably get, like, student models for less than that, for three, yeah, three. Oh, look here tubas for sale. Here we go. This one. Oh, this is a double B flat travel tuba, $2,300 Oh, it's right there. This is, this is like a, this is like a the junior tuba. This is like a school band tuba, this is like 1500 bucks, right? They go now, orchestra guys, Tula, that's probably like $12,000 yeah, I'm looking at a few right now. Yeah. B, double, B, flat. Rotary valve, 555, Valve, Rotary tuba. Oh, no, 10 grand. I do, like rotary valves, though, those are pretty sweet. Just I'm on the tuba exchange.com of course you are just gonna include this is Yamaha website, but this is the I was looking at Wessex tubas. Oh, there you go. Yeah, Wes music. What do they got for me? Oh yeah, here we go. Oh this is just telling me about the history of the tuba. I already looked at that. Oh no, here we go. Oh yeah, oh yeah. Yo D. They only have the big boys here on this particular website. Yeah, there's some things on sale, and it's not really saley to me. Yeah, that's the problem, like, Oh, but wait, what if a person was to go on used music instrument websites such as this one that I often buy things from. But where'd you go? This is gonna really screw up my search history. Oh, this one, 500 bucks. There you go. There you go, boom, boom. Got him right. Is it gonna be amazing, man? Will it play and YouTube of things? Yes. So you're good to go. No worries. I mean, I was mostly impressed with the people who showed up with a like, straight up, sousaphone, like, who, who just like that. That piece, that's a different piece of just like, well, some of them may have been like, students, right? And so they have looked these were not students. These were, oh, not maybe that. These could have been like, I guess, like band directors who are like, You know what I'm doing, I'm grabbing a schools, yes, right? I'll just get this out of the closet, hit and take it down there and, boom, I gotta go. Yeah. You know, that is a thing that could happen, right? That's plausible. So, yeah, not bad, yeah. So we all agreed that this was an amazing thing that needs to be done again. And then we drove home. And then today, we came to Springfield so that we could see the Springfield Symphony Orchestra, like gold orchestra play a holiday, not just you, like no matter of fact. Gotta be honest, when you see just one tuba on stage after seeing 400 little upsetting, right? Underwhelming. Well, I say, before you jump to that, though, I do want to say, I think one of the reasons the 400 tubas, other than the fact that there's 400 tubas, the reason it sounded so good in there is because. If you notice that back wall of that building that looks like a pipe organ to me, which I that whole room is an instrument. So that's so seriously gonna sound good. That's what I was gonna we we sat down. Gonna tie in a old episode there. Yes, we sat down, and I was looking. I was just talking and turning, yo, do to do too. I turned and I saw the back wall, and I turned towards the kids, and I went, this whole place is an instrument. And they're like, What are you talking about, Collin? And I was like, they don't call me Collin. They were like, they obviously do. They're like, anyway, anyway. You're like, What are you talking about? What do you mean? I was like, see those things over there? Yeah, oh yeah, it is. This entire place was built around that, and to make that sound good. And yeah, like, I and then, and then, of course, the tubas were great. But after seeing that the back wall, I literally wanted nothing else, nothing more than to hear that play. That's all I want. Oh, yeah, no. How could you not right? Like, how could you not want to hear just literally any chord, preferably the opening notes to Phantom of the Opera. But you know, other there are other organ pieces available. That's the one you want the most. Obviously played, yes, so obviously we're not getting that. But, oh, I will say they're Purdue. They're doing the Handel's Messiah there tomorrow. So, and they'll, they will have that, that little puppy cooking, maybe pumping out there. So, yeah, they wanted nothing more than to hear that and to hear that things. Oh, I didn't anyway, sorry. Distract you. Then onwards to Springfield Symphony. Springfield to see Springfield Symphony. And like I said, it's great, wonderful. Only one tuba, so put that in the review. But they had more of a just more stars for more tubas. More stars for more tubas to boo you anyway. Now it's bad, Wow, I'm so sorry. Yeah, they're helsburg Hall. We were at the Juanita K to go see the symphony, and I was trying to remember a few of the things that we saw. Did we see? Do you remember seeing stomp there is that? Yes, okay, okay, yes. A very long time ago, oh my gosh. And then a very long time ago, and we also saw David Copperfield perform. Is that also, also true? Yes, the only thing I read happens, I've seen David Copperfield twice. How did why twice? That's twice. You've had David Copperfield twice in your life. And I don't know that's a weird thing to really think about twice,

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because we used to watch all those TV special movies. Tell us, I know special things. Oh,

Collin  28:25

he made elephants disappear. He made buildings disappear. Where are the television magicians? Where do they go? What happened did the people learn that it really wasn't that impressive once they realized that editing, tuning, two things could have happened. Number one, the internet happened and they're all in there, or Criss Angel ruined it for everybody. They were like, This guy's lame, bro. We don't watch this anymore. Yeah, yeah, I'm just gonna think that they're I we're just gonna stay positive, and we're just gonna say they're all in the internet, and that I'm just gonna move away from Chris Angel anyway. Yes, we saw stomp, we saw David cowfield. We saw just a bunch of random things, right, like musical performance, things like your board Doc Watson, that play guitar for like, 7000 hours. We're like, Okay, we're going home. Now this is, I do remember, he's just so long we left. It was like, was so late. It was like, what? How? Okay, this is cool. But like, also, good grief, like, it's not like, upbeat enough to be like interesting for that long. I think I saw a Amy Lou Harris concert there that sounds like something that would have happened. Yeah, the only thing I remember from the David Copperfield back to that, because it is bizarre, because we saw him there, and then down in Branson, he made a car disappear. I remember that. But in. In Springfield. Oh, yeah. The only part of that thing that I remember is, count, like, a haunted house, yeah? The spooky ghost thing, yeah, the spooky and that, like, the point of that was, and then, like, went all over, like, I remember the going up over our head. There was, like, weird, spooky ghost everywhere. And I don't, I don't know that's where my memory both starts and stops, is the spooky ghost thing, and then beyond that, I don't know. Yeah, weird spooky ghost things. Why were there spooky ghost things? I don't know. I don't remember the context of the spooky ghost. I don't but there were, they were there. Sure were why? Yeah, we saw the, what's the, the Helen Keller play, we saw that there too. Oh, really, the miracle worker? Is that? What's called? We saw that there, right? We saw that, yeah. And, of course, my favorite musical of all time, the Fiddler on the roof that was there. Oh my gosh, it was, and I performed on that stage for the band concert contest. Concert band theme thing they had that really, couple times, yeah, like, the height when, yeah, a couple of years when we had to, like, you know, you go and you play, and they give you the ratings, or whatever, they did it there a couple times, at least once, maybe twice, when I was in high school, huh? Yeah, so I played on the stage, boom, at least one time, maybe twice, but at least once for sure. Ah, I didn't know that. Yes, don't know what else we saw. A bunch of things there. Those are the things that come to mind. I remember we also saw, um, big Smith there. I think we saw, yeah, Smith, well, they opened for Doc Watson. Doc, oh, that's why they did. That's why they were there. Otherwise, why would be expensive at 180 K that doesn't make any sense. I know I was thinking about that while I was sitting there, going, now, wait a minute, what why did? Why were they here? And the best part about that was he had the the piccolo trumpet. I remember, yeah, that was the because I remember Mr. Shannon had one, and then I'd never seen one before again. And of course, their bass player, who was like, 19 feet tall, and the largest man alive, comes out playing the piccolo trumpet, like, Oh, ha. Well, there you go. There's the thing, yeah, so that was fun, and it was great to see that. Like, literally nothing has changed. So I didn't, I haven't been back there since they opened the Yeah, they Yes. I haven't been there a long time. What's the other thing that they opened the Event Center? Thing? What is that called? That's not, you don't talk about, yeah, I know. I don't know what it is, though, but I've been there too. It's not stuff. It's like, nearby, but like, yeah, it's like, more of an event thingy to have, like, bigger stuff in there, like concerts and, like, I went to some really dumb, like, when I was a reading coach, a long time ago, we went to, like, it was, like, one of those big, long days of, like, just a bunch of, like, motivational people, like professional people that, like, tell you positive things. It was really boring, and I hated every second of it. I was like, wow, these people are just, like, taking your money. What the heck yeah. And, of course, it did seem wrestling in there one time. That was good time too, damn, right? Yeah. Gotta be Yeah. I think of other things we saw in 180 K because we were there a lot, not a lot, a lot, but like, yeah, often, like, yes, for like, yeah. Like, there was Fiddler on the Roof. There were little their performances like that, that I remember going to, it was a couple, like, Christmas Eve things that we went to, yeah. And I remember seeing the symphony, the Springfield Symphony, play a couple times, um, for, I think, more of a holiday ish, kind of events. So it was, it was good to be back there. And so the kids and I ran the stairs up and down a couple times. They go, good job next to the bead thing coming down. And they came in, and, of course, this is like, supposed to be like a kids matinee event, fun thing. And they Oh, do you want your picture with Rudolph? And it's obvious. It's a guy in a Rudolph suit. And Noah immediately takes a step back and goes, No. And Lillian says, Sure. And so the the handler for Rudolph goes, Are you ready to stand up? Wow. And the person obviously cannot see out of this mask is. Me and has no idea what is going on in the world. She has to, like, stand him up to have him face the right way to look at the camera, camera. And then, of course, I'm a smart Alex, so I go, Rudolph, activate. Wow. And, you know, they position the root off, and they face, and we take a picture, and she's like, Oh, do you want a whole family one? And we're like, we're good. He's he's out. And she goes, okay. And then she goes, Okay, two steps back, okay, that's fine. Okay. Now come back. Oh dear. And I couldn't even dope that person, bless their soul. What a horrid job that must be. Wow. They were not getting paid enough money to be, oh, not

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even a little bit,

Collin  35:47

is all I could say. But it was nice. They had the a bell choir, you know, the hand bells playing nice while we were waiting to go in. And then, yeah, it was, man, do love me a symphony. Love me a symphony. And we talked about the differences between that. You know, tubas, like, not a whole lot more, even just low brass. You know, when there's more a lot, I mean, there's high brass, the obvious, most obvious. I mean, not in syphony, no, not in the symphony. They're kind of also there with symphony, I think of more, it's like a string feature, usually, oh, there is, like, horn parts, right? Like, there's very famous, like, horn songs. But like, when I think symphony, I think about, like, the string section, so I think, like, they're, like, the they're it for the symphony. And then the other thing is there to, like, make it better. Like, marching band is, like, yes, brass and then other stuff is there. But brass, though, yes. But what if we had more brass? Yes, yes, exactly. So. So we talked about that of you know, the how the different sound and how when you have 400 tubas on a in a concert hall, there's not a whole lot of dynamic range that's possible. And so when the symphony is playing, it's like, oh, this is actually very soft. Like, this is quiet, wow, I can hear myself think. I don't, I don't know, turn it up. I don't feel my blood pumping in my earlobes. When this is playing, this is weird. Okay, flutes and violins. Look at that. Wait, come on. Yeah, exactly, exactly. It's like, oh. And of course, you know, the kids were like, Why? Like, they've seen the couple, like, Symphony play a couple times before, but we were just having a conversation, and now some of the questions are like, Well, why are there only two clarinets or, like, why is there only one of these? Well, because it's about the entire ensemble, and it's mostly strings, like, it's the strings, plus some woodwinds and brass are also there. Like, and it also depends on what kind of songs they're playing. And that's true geared towards so, because sometimes you need the oboe, sometimes you don't, right? And these were definitely more like they pulled something that the Springfield Symphony does a lot, I know a lot of symphonies. This is this has become a bread and butter for them. They do music in the symphonies, where so the movies in the symphony, oh yeah, they'll play the movie, and then they'll do the live accompaniment to it. And so I've seen that before. I mean, I haven't seen that personally, but I've heard it. I would love to see this that requires a different, you know, soundtracks require a different orchestra or different, you know, groupings of instruments depending on the movie too. Because, like, yes, yeah. So we talked about Howard Shore. He's like, Yes, get them all in here. Let's go. Let's get, could we have more of everything where instruments can we invent to play? Playing? So John Williams, get, can

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we move can we get more people in here? Please move over. Get more tubas in here.

Collin  39:01

Sorry, I need more room for one more French horn, but I mean, I mean 12. So thank you. Thank you very much. I meant one more row of French horns. That's actually thank you for clarifying, good clarifying question. So we just talked about how it just depends on what kind of music they're playing and the arrangements and what's needed, but they don't need a whole lot of everything, because it tends to be smaller when string focused. But you know, it's always fascinating to me to watch expert percussionists play like that. Oh yeah, is for sure, just so much fun to watch as they flip from one to the next, and how precise they have to be every single time. And the you, you know, the versatility in somebody that goes has him go from playing the marimbas to the bass to the Glock and Spiel to the bells to the, you know, to the marimbas. And then. Repeat and then do instruments the next one. It's like, yeah, those guys are working hard over there. Nobody ever talks to them about them, but they're, they're doing a lot. So that was, it was a good one too. They played, they played some from that were more soundtracky. So they had, they had a lot of brass involved with that. But was it good? It was a good hour. I recommend, recommend go, go listen to a symphony or 400 tubas. Yeah. I mean, one of those things is you're more likely to encounter statistically walking down the street. You're right? Yes, that's a fair point. You're more likely to encounter if you do encounter 400 tubas while walking down the street. I have encountered a person walking down the street with a tuba case before, ah, like maybe they're going to Symphony practice. Perhaps, don't know, Christmas, but yeah, maybe that's what they're doing. Yeah, yes. So we are and then tomorrow for returning background, and we're headed back home because we're going to see our town's version of Honda's Messiah. And we have another play to go to Frog and Toad from the children's friends probably told, like, the book, like, yes, yeah, right, there's, it's a, there's a, it's a play with them, based on the children's novels. And books, not novels, but those children's books, yeah, scenes that basically, they're, you know, each book is like, three or four little stories, little vignettes. So that's what they're going to be doing. Ah, sweet, yes, yeah, that's cool. So I'm excited. Very cool.

Brandon  41:52

Well, it's been a big theater week, apparently, because guess what we've been doing? Oh, what? Oh my goodness, yes. Theater week. Do? Yes. So Thursday, it was school play night, right, which was an extremely abridged version of The Nutcracker. Oh, for some reason, so that was weird. Never really. I didn't know. Well, I think I knew, but like, I didn't know, but, like, I knew, but I forgot, kind of situation that the Nutcracker had, like, lyrics, right? Oh yes, and they're singing the songs. And some of the songs I was kind of, like, easily, lyrics are kind of, it's not age well, Tchaikovsky, right? Like, I don't know. Oh, wait, uh, Review Board, yeah. It's kind of like, that's cool. But like, I don't really know if we don't know about that, as we'll go a little bit. They're not like, bad, but, like, they're also just kind of, like, not great. Like, that's weird. I don't know they gotta so I don't know that's a little weird. But anyway, like, a super abridged version of the neck, right? Like, really cut down a lot less ballet, but so they did the Nutcracker. This is pretty good, right? A lot of narrating. They do a lot of, they always do, like, a lot of narrating parts, and then, like singing bits, and there was some acting stuff. So it was pretty good, right? Overall, good time. So watched the elementary school abridged version of The Nutcracker, right? So that was Thursday, but then yesterday, right, right? Yesterday, yesterday was Friday. Is that correct? Yes, okay, yes, yesterday for because it's our anniversary, right? William, yes. So we went to Springfield Little Theater, you know? Oh, the landers again, because they were doing A Christmas Carol, right? And so if they're doing A Christmas Carol, guess who's going? That's right, it's Susan. So we went to that last night. That was pretty fun, right? It was pretty good. Now, a review of this Christmas carol at Springfield Little Theater, which is pretty non relevant, because it closes tonight anyway, or soon they like it was, overall, pretty good, right? The Susan had a hard time because, like, obviously, the Muppet version of the Christmas Carol is so superior that watching literally anything else is difficult. Uh huh, you know, can be hard, you know, to get over that. But like, the only thing that was weird was I. Like, tonally, parts of it didn't really make sense, right? Like, and I don't know if that is just the this particular show, like, with the actors and stuff or whatever, but like that, you know, it's pretty serious affair, right? And it was like a theater version. So there were like, little quips and little, you know, asides, which is engaging and supposed to make everybody laugh and cut the levity, right? But the dude that, the dude that plays Jacob Marley, was like, hamming it up hardcore, which kind of is weird, right? When they're like, oh, look, here's all this suffering and sadness, and he is being a complete ham, like, the whole time. Really weird. Like, perfect. It's like, totally like, when we were on our way home, where we're like, that that was the one thing that was like, kind of odd, right? And I don't know if I'm missing something, because again, it when you go to the Springfield Little Theater, right? The the thing that happens is that you are there, surrounded by theater nerds, right? These are the other people that go there. So some people that were there, like, they know more what to expect, because, like, this is a thing that people know about, right? Not me. I just like, I'm like, Okay, I'll go whatever. Like, I'm more of a casual theater observer, right? Not like a I follow everything and know about all the stuff. I'm not like, a big theater nerd person, but like, definitely in the audience last night were like, theater kid people, you know, and so, like, I think that they, they were enjoying right? Because it's like, look, it's like, big and it's theater and it's blah, blah. But like, I just think tonally, it was weird. It was a weird choice to have him be, like, silly, you know, and then like, cut to the song and dancing with him and all these, like, weird again, David Copperfield, spooky ghosts dancing around grooge, like, threatening him with the chain and all that stuff, right? Like, like, that was dark and weird, but like, five seconds ago, he was all like, goofy and wacky that that doesn't like, totally It was odd, right? Like, it was a weird tone to take. Now, wait a minute. Oh, look how wacky I am. Oh yeah, by the way, I'm wearing all these chains because I oppressed the poor. Hey. What? Like, yuck, yeah, yuck, yeah. It's like, kind of, kind of weird, right? Like, I'm like, I know that literal goofy played Jacob Marley, but like, tonally in the whole Disney movie, it like matched, right this, it didn't necessarily match the rest of the vibe. Oh. Are you saying you think you know where he took his inspiration from? Or maybe, yeah, like, it was, like, extra silly and weird and so that was strange. But other than that, like, overall, it was pretty good, right? Except for I did get cursed by the theater Gods because I sat directly behind two of the largest individuals ever. And so like, Oh no, you always get to happen. Like everybody else in the section I was in was a normal size human, but the two people directly in front of me were enormous, right? They're, like, taller than I am, wider than I am, right? It was like, oh my. And the guy right in front of me, like, I know the guy in front of him was big too, but he was also big. And he like, either wasn't comfortable in the seat, which I would get, but like, all he, like, literally could not sit still. He just kept moving his head sideways. So I would like, lean over to see around him. And then, like, two seconds he would just like, lean that way. And then he was like, oh, it's like, buddy, I'm gonna staple you to this chair. Like, what are you doing? I need you to immediately stop. It was really, like, he was kind of annoying. It's not his fault that he's a giant man, yeah, it's not his fault, but he's very wiggly. Could probably cut back on the fidgety. Yeah, so, like, other than the theater, God's cursing me with the seat, like, in the seats fine, I have literally, I was joking with Susan, like, we got to our seats, and I was like, I looked around, and I was like, this is, this is literally the exact seats we came we sat in when we came to watch the Murder on the Orient Express. Oh, no, which was just funny. That's not, I mean, they're fine, they're good seats, but, like, normally they're fine. But like, just last time on the murder in the morning Express, there was a normal sized person sitting in front, so there was zero issue. And you were kind of hoping for that again, yeah. But this, you know, it's okay. So it was pretty good. And it is weird to see a Christmas carol with dancing and tap dancing, but the dancers are very good tap dancing. There was a tap dancing number in there during the Ghost of Christmas Present, right? Which fits thematically, because he's, like, much more jovial, yes, right. So there was a tap dancing number in there. Okay? They were doing the thing in there. So that's pretty good. And it was nice. Overall, it was pretty good. I still even in this version right The Ghost of Christmas Past. It's my least favorite part of A Christmas Carol. I think because it's much longer than the other two ghosts, there's like, a way more. You know, I feel like, by the end, like the go to Christmas future Dickens is like, yeah, anyway, let's finish this up. Let's go. I gotta wrap it. By that time, Scrooge is, like, opened to more things. So like, you don't need to go as long, but like, the whole the backstory, like, takes forever, and the fezzy Weed stuff, and then the Emily the lady or whatever, and then all the like, takes years, and it's like, okay, and throw in dance numbers and songs, it drags out even more, you know, so I start to be really annoyed by the ghost of Christmas past, just in any rendition. But this one also just carried that on. Like, this is my least favorite part. Like, my least favorite part. Least favorite part of the story in general. But again, it was just, it was just so much, but it was cool. The sets were, the sets there are always amazing, right? That's one of my favorite things about going to the lander theater, is the set design is always incredible, right? It's fantastic, like, so I like, I like that. They do a lot with, like, very minimal stuff, right? They had the big, like, they had the street scene, yeah. And then, which is, like, backdrops. But the the, I guess we'll call it the hero building, was, like Scrooge's house, you know? And so it had the exterior, and it was literally a big, giant box, like huge, like a huge box. And then for the exterior shot, and then it, they rolled it forward and opened it up like a doll house. And that was the interior of the building. Oh, really, yeah, it like the whole thing hinged open, and was like, his bedroom. Oh, cool. And then for the other scenes, they would just like, pull it shut, and then pull it back, and then they would drop a curtain, because some of the other things are just like, black curtain. And then, like, you know, minimal props for the thing, like the whole ghost of Christmas past, it was just like, oh, look, here's a Scrooge's dad getting arrested. Here's him, you know, doing stuff. Here's the thing like, so there was, like, minimal set design for that. So this the, we'll call it the hero building. Was this huge thing that, like, completely hinged open. And they, they did all the stuff. So every time the new ghost showed up, they would do that, like, hinge that thing out, except for the third one, because, you know, he just shows up randomly, but, right? Yeah, so the set design is always my favorite part of those productions. I just think it's so it's the coolest i i just love the set designs in any, any production, right? But, like, I just feel like the spring for little theater just has some pretty incredible design people that are there doing stuff, because every time I see something there, it's like, amazing. I have really grown sorry. I have really grown to love design in it for theater that is minimalist, because it really helps you pay attention to what's going on and and not detract from anything else. I really is always very nice to see a very clean, minimalist production that focuses on the story and sets the scene as appropriately without having to be like, you know, way over killing us. Yeah, well, and there's how you have to be creative with the space that you have to work with, right? That's important. Like, when we saw, was it last year, we went and saw the play that goes wrong in Springfield, yeah, yeah, I remember that. And the set design for that, like, that's a that's a lot of big, complicated sets and stuff, but it's like, they're designed to break and things are supposed to go bad, and it was the set design was, like, the whole thing was hysterical, but the set design made it better, because it just, like, really played into everything that was going on. So the way that they do sets there, and whoever they all the people that work and volunteer at that place, they're they're amazing. Yeah, so, like, that's kind of the opposite one. Because, like, I remember when we back to Winnie decay, when we saw fiddler, it was a very minimal, sparse thing, because, you know, you just like flipping around and boom, blah, whatever. But like, the play that goes wrong had like, a billion sets, it felt like, but they were all, like, really important and interesting and unique, and they did all kinds of crazy stuff. But when we saw Murder on the Orient Express, it was, like, very simple. It was like, two things, right? And they just kept the way that they moved them and interchange them around and utilize the space. Was like, so cool that I just really like that. I really like the design part of that. So that's another reason I like going there. It's just really fun, even if the dancing of the Ghost of Christmas Past goes on for way too long, you know, maybe that's the point. You know, man, just can't you just get with it and be fine. I guess. Just spirit, stop showing me the dancing. Okay. Like, quit. I get it already. Okay? I know. Stop dancing. I too. Am ready? Yes, Christmas present with screws on this one. Can we move it along please? Yeah, now you really feel where his motivations are coming from. You know, maybe that was a point, I don't know, like, let's go.

Collin  56:31

Yeah, that's what we did. Uh, yesterday was saw them, oh, they had, um, they had carolers there, uh, like, at like, before. So part of the cast before the show started were like, they were already in like costume, right? So they were just doing Christmas carols. Oh, sure, on the stage, as everyone was coming in and singing outside, there were also carolers. Now, I don't know if these were part of the theater production, or if this was just spontaneous, other groups of people caroling because they knew the Christmas Carol was going to be there. I am unconfirmed about that, but also with the carolers. Before we even got inside the building, people, there was a group people that came in were singing with the carolers, and they were all dressed up like beaker from the Muppets. Oh, there was just like, 10s of beakers. And they were singing with the Christmas killers, but they were all just singing me, yes, yes. Hilarious. I was like, I don't know what is happening. I don't know why this is here. I have no idea. But this is really funny. That is perfect. I mean, it's a little bit of a deep cut to know, like, the connection between the Christmas Carol and the Muppets Christmas Carol. I mean, is it really at this point like, but I was gonna say specifically for for the theater nerds? Um, true. Yeah, no, no, no, no. That is a detail that does not that is immediately recognized Christmas carol enthusiasts such as my wife and as would be attending there, right? It's like, yeah, yeah. I don't know why all these people were there, but it was very hysterical. Well, that makes me happy. It's pretty good. So it started off on a good note, right? And then got dragged down by the ghost of Christmas past. No, but other than that, it was right, okay, good. The only other weird part was that the Ghost of Christmas Yet To Come was like, at some point it transitioned to this, like, Lady silently dancing in, like, this really big golden dress. And I was like, um, that's not menacing, like, what is happening? Like, what's going on here? Why is yeah, it was. It was bizarre, right? Like it was, it was like, instead of being the so one of the things in the theater version, right, is that the the ghost of Christmas, past, present and future, are all people that Scrooge encounters on his walk. At the beginning, when he's going around. He's like, in this introduction thing, like, there's a Lamplighter lady that falls down, and he's like, she's like, Help me up. He's like, Sucks to suck loser. Get out of here, right? That lady ends up being the Ghost of Christmas Past. There's a bell ringer guy, like, wearing a marquee board for, like, a theater production thing, right? The irony, right? They can't theater people can't help doing that. No, yeah. Yes, he ends up being the ghost of, he ends up being the Ghost of Christmas Present. And there's like a blind beggar woman, right? She's like, alms for the poor, and he's like, no, go away. And so that lady ends up being the Ghost of Christmas Yet To Come. But at some point she's, there's like, this big song thing, right again, like, mildly spooky, but like, she's she, like, takes off the hag robe, and she's wearing this, like, golden dress thing, and she's like dancing. She's not like singing. She's not singing because the Ghost of Christmas Future doesn't talk. But she's like dancing around in the golden dress thing, and Susan I were both kind of like, what is it? Wait a minute, but don't think dancing over the coffin that on Scrooge's grave. But she's like, twirly. Hold on. What is this? Is weird. And the juxtaposition of this graveyard scene with this golden lady is odd. I don't know about menacing or anything like that. Like, it's very, yeah, it was, that part was a little bit weird, right? But, like, again, it's fine. Overall, it was a pretty good joke, sure. Well, good. I'm glad, yeah, that was our big but look at that. Look at that a weekend at the theater, apparently, who knew unplanned listeners. Look at that. I know these things just happen. Yeah, that was, I mean, literally, all we've done is recover from the insaneness of thanksgiving. Have a few days, and then we've just been driving hither and hither, and what did Noah, we were at the park, soaking up some sunshine, walking around, and he's walking and he's he's tired and exhausted, and he just goes, Dad, I think my body is shutting down. Like nobody you need to snack. You Be All right? I think you're fine here. Just wait. Yeah, you just need a snack. Little guy, it's okay. We all feel like that. Sometimes we eat some chicken, and we're like, Oh, all right, let's

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go.

Collin  1:02:32

I was like, me too, bud. We need to keep going. We just need some lunch. Okay, it'll be fine. Oh, bork, I anyway, yeah, my body shutting down. Okay, we're moving on, moving on, moving on to lunch, and you'll be okay. You'll really rebound. I believe in you. Oh, so, yeah, so hopefully we'll get some good recovery this week. I'm I'm ready for it. I think, Oh yeah, definitely. Oh so that's kind of what we did today. We were like, we could do these things or hear me out. Susan just had the couch in work. She was just working on stuff today for, oh yeah, her parents is teachers, December story time thing. So she just kind of worked today, and just kind of, she's like, she was gonna, she was gonna go up to school. Then she was like, Nope, I'm gonna bring my stuff home so I don't have to leave the house on Saturdays. I think this is a much better plan. This is a buzz. Is much better. I think that's way to go. So that's what we did today. And so, yeah, finishing decorating, right? That's the other thing that's happening currently. So, yeah, now we, we are not decorating anymore. We are we, we, I, once I got the live tree, I was like, that's I can't I can do no more. I, I need to sit down now. Very tight. That's fair. That's fair. That's, you know. But we did. We put out the we didn't put the tree up yet. We had all the she wouldn't, I say we, I mean her mostly, uh, she put the other decorations up, just like the little things, like, got the little stuff out, right? And the tree is up, but it's not adorned currently. So that's the last step. Is finish trimming the tree. That's the last bit we have to do, and then we get to go. But, yeah, just doing that stuff. And then hopefully tomorrow, not doing too much either. So trying to I. I do the last sprint before Christmas break at school. That's the hard part. Like, I have two weeks. I'm not entirely sure how many of those days will be taken away to do, oh, right. Ancillary thing, random. So, like, yeah, because, like, my boss lives in this world where, like, Oh, we don't have anything to do before Christmas break. I'm like, bro, what are you talking about? I have so much stuff to do, yeah? This coast, this coast, yeah, yeah. Again, it's very difficult because, like, we're, since we're technically in the elementary part, right? Like we are, again, we're very unique in that we're the only, well, not the only grade anymore, but like, we're the only section that, like, fifth grade does it to this year, where we switch classes and so, you know, they're like, Oh, well, just move your time around. Like, I cannot do that. Like I Why don't you understand that I can't. I have these, like, 50 minute time blocks, and that's all I got, and I can't just do it later. It's not worth Yeah, I know done in this time, right? Yeah, I can appreciate that. Maybe the second grade is like, okay, bro, we need other things to do. Okay? Like, can we do something different? I don't want that I need to, like, focus here. I have to, so I really need you to not do that to me, right? Ah. So other than that, so that's what the problem I don't know. I was like, I have all this stuff to do do. I get to have time to do it like? What does that look like? What is? What do I actually get time to do things? So that's the other problem that I'm having here. So we'll see how that goes in these next two weeks, and then go from there, I guess so. Yes, I do have a potential Christmas themed challenge for you. Ah, okay, if I can interest you in a holiday spirited challenge. Yes, yes, I am all ears. I'm taking notes. I am ready to go all right now because, yeah, we can decide what we want to do. Is we don't have to do it this next week. Don't have to do it this next week if you don't want to. But it's not, it's not super involved. It's not super involved. It's a light one. Probably best to do it earlier in the Christmas season than later given schedule. That's fair. So this, this isn't, this isn't, like, a super involved one, right? So, but I this is something I've been thinking about travel for several months. Paul, yeah, no, for several months. Okay, I would think about this for several months. It was in the summer when we were in the park, like running and stuff, right? And walking around and running in the park. We were talking about this one day. We're talking about Christmas songs, right? Last year we did a least favorite Christmas song, please. You know, we were talking about just it came up a conversation that the 12 days of Christmas is a weird song, right? These are weird gifts to give people, right? It's also a little bit weird to like, give somebody, you know, maids of milking. That's weird. I think that's slavery. I think that's illegal, right? Why are there so many birds in this song, right? Why are they only gifts, literally, people and birds and then jewelry, like, that's it, right? So do you have these same thoughts? Do you like the 12 days of Christmas as a song, I think as a traditional song to sing, it is good. I like, like, oh, it's Christmas. Here's a song we sing at Christmas. That is what it is. But beyond that, no, it's not like, Yeah, this is what I need in my Okay, so I also know that there are other renditions of this song, right, and other like parody versions of said song. So I was wondering if we need to do some sort of challenge around finding a better alternate version of the 12 Days of Christmas. Yes, right. Okay, they go, right. I think we need to just make this our top five rankings. Oh, okay, all right. Or do you want to come up? Do we need to come with our own Well, I didn't really know. I thought that might be a little too much, right? Maybe we can save that for next year. Okay, right? But we could do that. But I don't know we could. Yeah, we can either do top five, or we could write our own 12 days Christmas. But I think we'll do we'll do the best. We'll find the top five. We'll write them. Yeah, okay, yeah, that sounds good. We can save writing our own for a future date. We'll pencil that in, put that on the list. The thing. To do, yes, yeah. That's not okay. It's going, it's two pages now, oh yeah, yeah. I know we need to Yeah. We get on that we can make yeah in future days. So listeners, be on the lookout in future. Fourth, the ultimate version, the ultimate oh brother version of today's Christmas. Right? At some point, right, right? A 12 days of Christmas alternative song, okay, but for this one, we're going to be finding, we're going to be listening to and finding, yeah, a top five editions of, surely, there are more than five, right? I didn't research this too much, yeah. As soon as I said five, I was like, I, because this isn't, this is not versions. It's not even, no, it's, it's um, like, rewrites, rewrites kind of parodies, I guess. Yeah, yeah, that's what we need to think about here. So, like, Okay, I may have given I may have I may have bitten off more we could chew with this. It's like, it's like, whatever. That's right. Well, if we need to, if we need to a bridge to, like, the top three or the top three, yeah, we can do that. Okay, right? I'm pretty sure we can find five of these. But like, oh yeah, here's 12 unique versions of the 12 Days of Christmas, just on this list right here. So, uh, okay, I think we might be able to do that. I can do that. Okay, okay, yes, we will do this. Okay, all right. We'll do some research on this. We'll do that later. But that's what I was I just wanted to think about this, because I think as a song, like conceptually, as a song, this is a weird Christmas song, right? And we can talk about that a little bit later, like go into more detail. More detail on that when we do this, but, like, I just think it's weird, and I Susan's, it was Susan's grandmother's least favorite Christmas song. She did not like it at all. Okay, so I think that's for this, yeah, it's kind of how this conversation came about, right? So, so we were talking about that. It was grand, least favorite song ever. So we're nice, okay, so we have, yeah, we need to, okay, yeah, so we can do some investigating. So that can be our challenge, uh, alternate versions of the 12 Days of Christmas. So there we go. If we can't find five, we'll do three, but I think we might be able to find five. I think we'll find Yeah. Will they all be better? Yeah, but we can, doesn't matter. I think we can agree that we will find something better than the original. Yeah, probably So, and that's going for, that's what we're going, okay, okay, all right, okay, we will do that. We will do that. That's all right. We'll do that for next week. I think was that that's our part next week challenge. I think so okay. I think we should do that. And that way, when things go haywire, if we push the week, we can still get this done before the end of the year. And it's not like Christmas in January. Yes, exactly, yes. Although, depending on who you ask, they will say, well, the 12 days of Christmas is leading after Christmas, not before. That is true. It's all thing. And that's true. So, yeah, but we'll get it done for Christmas, because it's a Christmas song that January people, right? Well, that's great, but yeah, depends on where you're I know the Italians, there's part of the Christmas goes into January, right? So it's all thing. So like, epiphanies, part of Christmas, yeah, someplace. So, yeah, well, so then maybe, maybe if we do swing and a miss on this, it will just, we'll just roll it into if we muck up real bad, yeah, we'll just make it, or we'll just say, No, we meant to do this as part of the Italian tradition. Yeah, obviously, as we try to ingratiate ourselves into them, into their society and culture when we buy a villa. Yes, this is it's a long plan, people. It doesn't these things don't just happen. It takes intentional work. That's what we're doing here. Oh, okay, well, I will have a haiku to wrap us out here. All right, I believe here. So here is my Haku, tiny ball, loud clacks, grown ups, squabble on the court. Pickleball, perplexed Bucha. Yes, beautiful. So Will, why? Why? Why is it so much I like it anyway. There we go. Okay, well, I will start listening to I've got a long drive home tomorrow so I know what I'm gonna be doing. Songs. Get my playlist I'm investigating. Yeah, this is, this is for my work. Yeah, this is what I'm interested to see. Are these alternate versions, or are these just, like, different random people singing, that's what we did. That's gonna be the hard to think, to wade through here, like, yeah, what's the difference between a version? I'm also hairy. I'm also a little worried about just how far the deep end is on pretty we're gonna that's, that's where, like, I've got, yeah. I'm like, oh the 12. Yeah, okay, well, we're gonna steer clear, so we'll try not to go on to 14.

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Oh yeah, no, no.

Collin  1:15:33

Stay away from Fortune place. We don't go there. We don't have all my firewalls up, and I'll be double encrypted. Yeah, good, yeah, put your Yeah, two factor authentication on everything. What are you doing? I'm looking for versions of the song. Yeah, safely. Okay, well, Godspeed and good luck and We'll all right, love you. Bye. Bye, you.