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Collin  00:00

Oh. Welcome to Oh brother, a podcast where we try to figure it all out with your hosts, Brandon and Collin on this week's show

00:15

favorite,

Collin  00:16

potato form ahoy. There it is. It's a thing. We're doing it again. Thing, live and in person. Happy Thanksgiving, indeed. There we are, dating it yet again. That's true, time and place. But you know, we're happy end of November to all of our European and Asian friends. What's up?

00:37

Yes, yeah, this

Collin  00:38

time that means nothing to you is happening right now as we speak, but that's alright. Mm, hmm. And it's a cold one, as always, very cold, actually, not as always. Last year was like, way warm was it last year? Maybe it was last year. Today's freezing cold, right? It's all of a sudden again, Missouri weather was like, oh, right, almost winter 30, like, ah, yeah, what the heck? What is this shocking surprise that's going on? So it's very cold today. Did they stop Collin children from wanting to go outside and play all day? No, did not no. So did it stop one of them from not wanting to wear an appropriate coat? No, also No, also no. So that's been fun. We'll see how he is doing tomorrow. Already not doing well, as it turns out. Who could have seen that coming cold? Oh, no. Tried to tell him, trying to tell him. He told me. He yelled at me today because, oh no, I'm sorry. So they went inside, and he comes back out with a rope. And I was like, Where'd you get that? He's like, I just asked Didi for it. Like, did you tell him what you were gonna do with it? No. And so listeners, the plan was going to be one of them was going to drive his little cart thing, like the pedal car deal, and he was gonna tie the rope to his sister and pull her on the skateboard. This was the plan. And when I didn't give the rope to either of them. They were very cross. They were like, but, but they gave it to me. And I was like, did you tell them what to do with it? No. Why would we need to do that? What this? I am terrified of the story for exactly two reasons. Okay, one, one, how awful it like just, it's a scary thing to think of my kids doing that activity going down our driveway. But also, secondly, how eerily similar that is to some of the ideas that we had growing up. Yes, now I'm not gonna say this is how come I know that this is not a good plan. Listeners, I may have firsthand experience with similar such tactics and know that they end in catastrophe. And so this is, as soon as you say that I'm going, oh my gosh, this is no okay. So this is not a unique experience, I guess just, let's try this thing. Yeah. So yeah, they were very mad for a little while because I wouldn't give them this ring. Them this random rope they had. So there you go. That was what I did today. It reminds me of our plan when we had the sleds with where we would go down all three together with our feet hooked into the person's sled in the back, yeah. And the goal was basically to make it down as a team. Yeah. How many times did we make it down? Zero, exactly. Because the leader would get going left, right, left, right, and then you just lift your legs up suddenly, and you shoot people off into the woods. I may have happened once or twice. Because why would you make it down to the bottom together. Yeah, when some people can go on a toboggan ride, this plan is not successful. This is yes, this has been proven to be bad, so we didn't do that today. They were mad, but it's okay. They got over it, and they came up with some new plan. So it's fine, but that hopefully didn't involve too much death, very much crashing in the second place. It was fine, but they'll do that sometimes. I'll they'll say, Hey, Dad, can you come? I need to move this chair go. Why? Well, we just need the chair move. I'll go. No, no, we need to. We need to walk down through steps two through seven, real quick. Just give me the high level here. But that's where the chair goes. Uh, need a good reason to move it from it, according to my plan, where I was going to stand on the chair and then leap off and try and grab the banister. Right? Oh, okay. So. You ruined, climb your way up our staircase on the outside, getting a leaping start. We're gonna veto that one. Yeah, good plan. Good plan. Yeah, I don't know, but yeah, there. Noah does that kind of thing too. When he's he's digging, right? So he we had to, we had to set aside a portion of our yard to call our dirt hole. And basically, we, we set, we built a we did everything for a raised garden, except the garden part, because it's just dirt. But we raised, you know, it's up, like six inches off. It's just a dirt on extra dirt. Yeah, no, we did like, $80 on dirt, just so we had a place, because otherwise he was digging in our, like, actual yard and excavating out through the hillside. And so we did that. There's water lines there, so yeah, and, like, electrical thing, because I was like, Maybe we shouldn't do that next to the city's nicely poured new sidewalk to this stuff. But he'll, you know, Lillian needs to get my, you know, my shovel or whatever. And I'm like, What are you doing? Like, just digging a hole. Let me come in the right spot. Is it in the permitted zone, right? Is it still in the dirt hole? Are we? Are we pushing the boundary out a little bit at a time? Talk about zoning laws here. I cannot dig outside of the dirt hole that is not a prescribed, allowed plan. We were quite saddened a couple weeks ago. We weren't. We go through our park. We walked there, apart from our house, around this big loop. And this is the perfect time of year to do it, because it gets dark just a little bit in the evening, and they've while they're testing the Christmas lights, you can walk through and kind of do like a preview thing of the lights. It's great because you can go in through it. You can walk through, see that, see them, see them before anybody else sees them. It's great. And we over on the southwest corner side of the park, there was a volleyball court, sand volleyball court, and what was happening behind me right now, dog is trying to eat. Susan, oh, sorry. Susan, I'm sorry. Now the dog is trying to eat there, by the way, it was. There's live studio on this evening, this evening of my wife and a very rash galligany dog, ice, cinnamon. But they had a sand volleyball court, and we used we like to go there, because it was a giant sand pit that you could go and dig. And the city would actually do Dino digs there, where, every year they would add fresh sand to it, but they would mix in dinosaur figurines and have kids come and, like, dig in the sand pit and whatever. That's fun, yeah, it was a lot of fun. It's fun way to come dig through the city's public cat, exactly, yeah, but it was fresh litter. Fresh litter, newly poured. They just poured on top of the old sand. Yes, they do, okay, there. That's why I thought, That's what our city does. Why would we get rid of the old sand? We paid good money for that. Just leave it. We'll just dump more sand on top. No. But much to our dismay, we came around the corner, and all of the sand had been excavated out and in it, in the middle of it poured like a 20 foot diameter round concrete circle. And we were very confused by this. Like very confused is the opposite of a crop circle, like an industrial circle, industrial circle. It just appeared okay, but also coming out of the cinder of it were two massive electrical control boxes, and was like, what world's most dangerous tetherball games. Good luck. Timmy, oh yeah, gotta

08:59

hit it between the arcs.

Collin  09:01

Yeah. Thank you, Mr. Tesla. And it was like, there for like a week or two, like, what is going on? Well, then all of a sudden, up pops a ginormous Christmas tree, probably, yeah. And then I was reminded that last year there was a local a nearby town at a massive Christmas display by one of their residents, and they didn't want to do it anymore. So instead of just closing it down, they sold off different components of the display. And our city had bought some of those components and needed a place to then install them. And so they got rid of the sand volleyball court for the Christmas tree. Now you may be asking, are they going to be replacing the sand volleyball court? That would be my next question. And the answer is, no, yeah, just one time the mono use concrete pad takes a lot more sense than a sand volleyball court. Indeed, it does do. Have so our park just has a volleyball net. No sand are they gonna somewhere? I don't that that. I don't know, but there has been basically like, No, we have no intentions of replacing the sand volleyball because, unfortunately, we used to have three sand volleyball courts, two of them disappeared within a year of us moving, and now this was the last holdout. Is it? Because everyone's playing pickleball? I think what has happened is, yes, this is the the the pickleball, I don't know, yeah, the pickle, the pickleball of America, has happened, right? No. Tennis Court is safe because I think our tennis courts, I think all that's left is how many, how many tennis courts are in the 123, if there's six tennis courts in our park, maybe, maybe more. And I think all of them, except for maybe one, is now a pickleball. Or maybe it's just because maybe there was four. Now that means there's more. I don't know exactly. There's a lot of pickleball courts in our park now it's sweeping the nation. I don't know why. Actually, I do know why. I think here's my theory. Oh, right. So the first time I played pickleball Middle School peak class. Yes, I had never heard of pickleball until Coach Scott at all, uh huh. Never knew it was a thing. And for some reason, part of racket sports time was pickleball. Forever. We play pickleball and we play like badminton, and I think that was all but I think that's the only two records late in gymnasium, right? Two records. But I think, right, apparently I'm imagining what's happened here is it was not just my middle school PE class that paid pickleball. It was potentially every or a large number of middle school PE classes across the country, right? Because I, because I bet, like, all the PE teachers went to like, a conference, and they learned about it, and they were like, oh, yeah, you're so you could see somebody standing up there with a PowerPoint and being like, and let me tell you about the benefits of teaching this class. Yeah, right. But they were thinking, like, oh, you can these skills trans. It's like an intermediate step between table tennis and actual tennis. It's like the middle, it's like the the middle Pokemon evolution, like, it's like the Hindley shirt, right? I think we're seeing a pattern here. So we had, we have table tennis, we have normal sized tennis, and then pickleball goes right in the middle, right? And and then I, for some reason, everyone just likes pickleball better. I don't know why, because it's literally the exact same sport as tennis. You play with four people most times you do doubles a lot more. It's slightly less running than tennis, uh huh. You can also do it indoors, which is, which is another thing that I think a lot of people like about this is, you don't really have the space for indoor tennis courts in a lot of places. So if you are a rec center, if you are a community center, have, it's an easy conversion to make you have four indoor pickleball courts, yeah? That's like, one tennis court, right? So, like, or, or you could take one basketball court and turn it into two courts, yeah, right. Or, you know, at least, yeah. So I you can see how, again, on a PowerPoint, they're going look it's economical, because you can do multiple of these in one gym. The storage is easier because the paddles are smaller exactly. You don't have to worry about tension in the rackets. For tennis, you have wood Exactly. It's just and paddle, yeah, it's, it makes. There's a lot of reasons why it makes sense. I just don't know all why. All of a sudden, the boom and the craze were true. Well, where in the zeitgeist was this going on with these Well, right? If this, if it's spread throughout now, all those people that wear musical pickleball are adults, and they want to do stuff with their friends, and they all know how to play pickleball because they learn name. Now they have place. They need a place to go, and then it's been converted out there. So the real question is, How long until pickleball becomes an Olympic sport, right? What is the turn? Right? Pickleball is now like an extremely popular recreational sport. Are there? Okay? The live research time is there? Pickleball leagues. Oh, do we have competitive pickleballing occurring across the nation yet, or is that the next step? Is that? Where is that? Where we get on right now? Is that the next step in the evolution of pickleballing sweeping the nation? I'm sorry, Brandon, you obviously haven't been paying attention to the NLP. I have not with the major anymore. The major league pickleball, okay, first of all, MLP, kind of a bad name. But anyway, yeah, I can explore Major League Pickleball for the latest event standings and news. Can i Yes, there we go. There you go. Major League pickleball.net. What? Oh, latest updates. Oh, the Dallas in Miami clubs are doing great. I do have to, you. Do have to google listeners, MLP, pickleball, which does seem redundant, right? It's like funny. It's not a steak. But if you just Google MLP, you will get my little pony, right? So don't, that's what you're looking for. That's fine. But, oh, there's a 24 season. How many teams are in this league? I don't know. Team standings. Shocking, Orlando, Miami, Dallas, who could have seen that coming? Virginia Beach. That feels right. What professional pickup? Oh, we competing leagues. Oh, my stars, the Ozarks pickleball club. Hey, hey, there we go. So local listeners, the Ozarks pickleball club.

15:54

Oh, no, Great

Collin  15:56

Scott, so yes, the PPA tour, that's not a good acronym. Don't do that. I don't have the that's not allowed. They claim you can watch pro pickleball live, right? So, apparently, there is a pro streaming. There is a pro pickleball, okay? Listeners, I'm gonna, we're gonna go. You do have to subscribe to pickleball TV. Pickleball TV. How much this? This should be on Twitch, like what this is, should just be on YouTube. Right to subscribe to pickleball TV. Bro, how much? Okay, hold on. Let me see. How much. How much are they raking you over the coals for the PB TV app. That's just a horrible combination of letters. Oh, also big in Southeast Asia. So listen, hey guys, what do you guys, Singapore, friends? Why are you not telling me about this? Yeah, broadcast schedule coming up. Oh, so we've got some December stuff. We can see the San Clement in California. We got Florida stuff coming on. Oh, but, oh, they also host amateur players, so you don't have to be a pro play the PPA tour, good, because I am, yes, professional, right? Not a professional at all. Yeah. And there is an Asia branch here, MLP Asia, right, set to launch in 2025 the tour Asia. Bang. There we go. So the real question is, is, is La 2028 too soon to see the debut of pickleball, the Olympics? Do we have to wait until 2032 I think 2032 at least, yes, all right, yeah, what is the 2032 venue? I need to know that I'm just so fascinated by this pickleball league here, like this is kind of insane. I kind of want a pickleball league t shirt. That would be very unique. That would be great to have. It's Australia, Brisbane. Oh, let's go Aussies. You got this, right? You're gonna make pickleball an Olympic sport, right? That's they need that. I think that could be good.

18:21

Oh, actually,

Collin  18:22

what I have just learned on from ESPN is that the rifkins world pickleball Federation, there's there's so many pickleballs, also the international pickleball Federation and the global pickleball Federation. The rifkins is in the throes of negotiating a merger between all three of their federations, all. That's what we need to tackle the Olympic hurdle so that they can have a unified front to go at this. That's important. Yeah, I think that's good, right? Yes, good deal. I think, I think I would say, I would say 2032 would be very would be a very likely not, not No, la pickle ball, that's fair. Oh, it turned Oh, that makes sense, right? Because it's so new, and we'd have to get all the stuff and then agree on things and sign papers, get all the stuff. It's, there's a man. This is so confusing right now, I know, apparently there's a St Louis shock pickleball team. I just learned that right now, this is, this is a lot to take in. It is? It is? Yeah, right. So this is going to start being broadcasted, right? I would rather watch pickleball than golf. Let's be real. Shots fired. My long standing war against golf being an actual sport, I was thinking about this the other day. We were walking in the park right where we could see the setting up of Christmas lights as well. They weren't trusting them on, but you could see where they're going to be. And there was a bunch of there's. Where do you explain golf right? One of which was driving his golf cart on the walking path, like a jack wagon, right? Even though there's like, all these big signs that

20:10

say, don't walk on the cart path, you can't walk over here, this golf course,

Collin  20:14

this numpty decided that he was just gonna drive right through, well, walking track. Were there any signs that says, Don't drive your golf cart on the walking track? You know, I figured they should be, because it's clearly the walking trail. It's part of the Greenway trail thing, which is not for golf carts anyway, so I'm gonna just go walk right across the eighth hole next time. Say, forget you what I I feel like again. If you want me to consider things a sport, I shouldn't walk by your overly expensive golf golf cart and see like five open containers. All right, that doesn't really feel like a sport. This is not 1925 baseball. Okay, what are you doing here? All right, this is, I mean, he's, he's just, he's, he's trying to make the game harder. I

20:58

mean, just imagine, imagine

Collin  20:59

if that was instead of, what's your handicap? Bush light like, they outlaw steroids because it makes the games too easy.

21:10

They just say everyone has to reach, like, a certain point level on a blood alcohol test.

Collin  21:16

Yes, yeah, in order to compete, you have to be a minimum. Like, this is not a sport. Here's another thing about why it's not a sport, maybe a recreational hobby. That's fine. I'm fine with that. Sporting event. No, okay, just No, right? It's not a lot of baseball anymore, okay? A bunch of the chagrin of the Chicago Black Sox, I guess. But like, not nobody since then, like, I don't know, without hope. Do you know of these? Speak up very much. You know,

21:47

they don't need those guys, Pete

Collin  21:49

Rose too, exactly, you know, whatever. But how much you want to bet over under now that Pete Rose has passed away. Now they put him in the Baseball Hall. Oh, you just for years, they're like, no. Pete Rose has sullied the sport of baseball with that gambling that one time and blah, blah, blah. And since baseball has such a long, horrible history of people gambling and brooding games that they do that, but now, since he passed away, they're gonna be like, Oh yeah, Pete Rose definitely the Hall of Fame. Like, remember what a great guy he was. We all love Pete. Like, just wait, just wait, what an impact he's had and had on the sport. Yeah, without him, Where would we be? Yeah, more. Like, gambling, more gambling. Would have had more years of wonderful gambling would we have had? Yes, I think in five years they'll be like, Oh yeah, Pete Rose down the hall of fame. Just No, they'll get that cash grab. They'll be breaking in that money, selling those jerseys. That's what they're gonna do. They'll be Wait, there will be a complete washes episode, marketing your books. Yeah? See, it's a good thing. We dated this with our Thanksgiving talk 2024 books. Yeah? No, it does. That does happen. I mean, you think of the the legacies of a lot of professional athletes who you look at now, and you're like, wait a minute. I thought in the 90s we didn't like you, or in the 2000s you weren't a good person, but now, now you're the darling of everybody. Okay, okay, cool, yeah. Like, nobody liked you. You're like, such a jerk, and they're like, oh, but you caught a bunch of balls. Like, we like, like, again, currently, this is happening with Deion Sanders, right? For a long time, nobody liked Deon, nobody. Nobody liked neon Dion. Nobody liked the flashiness and all the stuff, right? Because we were still pretending at that point that like, football is about the love of game. Now, in 2024 we're like, Nah, bro, it's about making money, like, whatever, totally. But, like, no, but like, a lot of people really hated the onsenders, and now people are like, Oh yeah, Coach prime. It's so cool. It's just so great that he's blah blah, like, Guys, he's doing the same thing he was doing before, just as a coach now, like, he's literally coach, I think he's literally coaching college football so that he can, like, give his sons a platform to be scouted by the NFL. I think that's the only reason, wow, he's

24:25

playing, what a downer football. Now

Collin  24:29

it is suspiciously. He started coaching football. His sons went to school there. He was successful. He went to a bigger school. His sons magically transferred to Colorado. Oh, my goodness, it's so amazing. How did that happen?

24:45

Keeping the family together, starting

Collin  24:47

with guys? Wow, no, it just happened that way. There's an independently reviewed roster, Yeah, apparently, apparently, you can't spell nepotism without Colorado Buffaloes who, like, I don't know it's in there if you. Look between there. If you look between those, yeah, I think it's in between the N and the P somewhere. It's like, crammed in there, real small, but you're gonna get totally

25:15

ridiculous.

Collin  25:17

Come on. What are you doing? Stop it. Stop pretending that you like that. It's ridiculous. So anyway, pickleball sweeping nation, too much pickleball everywhere. Yeah, we lost our we lost we I'm just gonna go ahead and say it. We didn't lose our courts to a Christmas tree. We lost them to pickleball, which devalued the court and which made them put the Christmas Yeah, that's what I was going. That's where we started here. Yes, I was figuring, so since we're like, they're focusing all their energy on Pickleball and not volleyball, yes, because not many people use volleyball net, more people use pickleball. So they probably just, like, took the net. We're like, what if we just put it close to the ground? In their defense, they put a brand new net up at the volleyball court, and then, like, a month later, it was already shredded to pieces by people destroying it. And I'm sure they were like, We don't want to continue to spend this money. I mean, the sand is one thing that's fun to play in, but this net that annoys me, you'd figure there could be, like, a outdoor netting situation, because, like, outdoor basketball goals have, like, the change hands, right? I don't know why you couldn't do a more outdoor version of volleyball net right now. Chain may be a bit harsh, but, like, people wouldn't mess with it, right? Because it changed so, like, it's, it's also electrified,

26:46

the two breakers, no, just,

Collin  26:49

I mean, there needs to be some sort of, like, better way to outdoor fight a volleyball net. Because, why is because I you know, basketball nets are very like indoor basketball nets can survive outside for approximately 12 seconds before they just disintegrate. But like, surely, there's some sort of way to not just use the nylon right, because it's durable. But like, you know, it's a rope. I would think it'd be something like the safety net. Things you know, put around orange nets. You put around the dirt hole exactly. People don't fall in it. Cut

27:27

that to size.

Collin  27:28

Throw that up in there. That's a good idea. That would look like. And I feel like that'd be a bit more durable to the outside. And it's you can buy in those giant rolls. So if it gets messed I'd be like, Oh no, here's some more. Ta da, totally neat. Yes, orange safety net and zip ties. Problems solved. Don't

27:47

need to have this. We don't need to have any more discussion. We'll just, know, cut this tape out.

Collin  27:52

Submit that to the city council. Yeah, and I'll accept my you already have this orange stuff in the roadworks, in the roadworks building. Yes, you already have roles of it in there. I know you do, just buying more of it all the time because it's on sale, right? Yeah, ranges, yeah. Seeing they were probably race brothers, probably the same place you buy the high visibility this, I'm so sad we don't have those listeners. We could have actually used some high visibility vests today, my gosh. So we went to a local attraction. Okay? Basically, it's a dude's house who has put up more inflatable Christmas decorations and Christmas lights than the Griswolds. Okay? It's insane lot. And apparently you can't, like, it's set up where you can walk through, right? This is Missouri, so you park in the adjoining field, uh, walk down the side of the road, which is where the high visibility vests would have come in very handy, because the high because the road is it's good. It's black. It's black, no lights. So there is a ditch, right? And to be fair, there is more of a flat, or flatter ditch than I was expecting, right? So this is good, more walkable, but it is right next to an Road, like a, like a state highway road, yeah? So again, it's like, not, it's not like a big highway, but, like, it's also not a side road. There's no shoulder right? Like there's a there's a ditch in a flat area. Anyway, we made it to the thing. We walked through part one. We were getting ready to go to part two. We round the corner. We were standing there staring at part two. Yes, that's glory, glory. And the slight jankiness, everything's fine. And allegedly, there was a food stall somewhere. We were on the hunt. And just as we were all together, right, we blown circuits somewhere, and then just like hundreds of lights and weird in. Inflatable yard things just come

30:03

slow motion, falling over, horror film, everything

Collin  30:14

it was, it was still to this day, just so shocking. I mean, I'm still thinking about this. He says, still to this day, it was like three hours to

30:22

this day.

Collin  30:23

I still think about just it was hours later, so bright, and then instantly, all of it, it's black,

30:33

shut off.

30:36

You couldn't see anything.

Collin  30:37

True, it was so bright with all the lights and stuff. It was like a spotlight, right? And then it was immediately pitch black. It's like, oh, oh no. What has happened? Something strange has occurred. Oh no. What's going on? Help, like, and of course, we're standing there and we don't know at the time that something's blown or, like, is this gonna be a quick fix? Like, did somebody just trip over a cord? Or did did I fall over extension cord? No, listeners, I did not. I changed. No, no, not, not one of us did. But then some guy was walking over and he said, Yeah, you blew a fuse. And he pointed to the pole. Yeah, so, and he said he saw the spark travel down the wire, and which is weird, because I didn't hear anything, no, and we were not that far from it, right? We were probably, like, 30 feet away, if that from the pole. I didn't hear anything. But you know, if it's just a fuse, it's not he didn't like blow a transformer. We would have thought, I'll have seen a lot more sparks then, yeah, as we were concussed down to the ground, I don't know, showering sparks everywhere, yes, lighting all of the nylon blows on fire. Yum. Fun. Yeah. Then we had to walk sadly, back past all the sad, sad black Santa's and all sort of thing so he did just laying everywhere. It's fantastic. That was our exciting adventure for the day, as well being yelled at by Collin children for not letting them cause bodily harm for themselves and watching hundreds of inflatable things just slowly wither in the very sad dance, like I just Yeah, because yeah, I panned my my my flashlight around, looking at them and just everything in unison. Just, I make that sound, because that's the first thing that comes to my head, is just, right? It's like a it's like when all the clones turn off in Star Wars, right, when they blow up in the Phantom Innis, when they blow up the ship, and all the droids just go, they just all power down, yeah, like, you know, Georgia, like, pokes it and it just falls over. That's what, like it was basically that yes, was pretty much it No, yeah, we had just finished talking about how we all felt like we were Luke Skywalker, yeah, obviously so. But yes, that was also true. Okay, go. I have a question for you. Oh, no, right, okay, last year we ranked holiday piles and thanksgiving. Okay, that means this time I wanna know your top five favorite Thanksgiving side dishes. Oh, okay, right, I feel like that's important, because there's a lot. There's a lot of them. Some of them are not great. Some of them are good, like, I like some of them. Some of them are not it, right? I cannot. There are some traditional Thanksgiving side issues. I do not want my life, yeah, I want them to go away so well. And this is tough, because some people just say, like, whatever I make as a side dish on Thanksgiving is as Thanksgiving side dish. So this is tricky, right now, there are some things that would I have preferred to eat them today. Yes. Is my father a giant Thanksgiving traditionalist? Yes, oh yes, he is right. So that's that's fair. Do we add things that yes, that's a good question. So like, where do we put here? Do we need to add things into this list? You just drop some hints for next year. Like, Oh, this ranked really high on the podcast. Yeah. Yeah, I'm not saying, but also I'm not nothing. So, so what do we got? We got? I'm just gonna name some things off here. I mean, did you have your list? Or I did not. I thought of this literally, was we were putting together. That's perfect. So it's perfect. I didn't really have time. To consider this. Oh, no, yeah. So like, what we've got, mashed potatoes, yeah, okay, obviously, a good one. We've got everybody's favorite green bean casserole. It is a side dish. We've got, we've got, well, so this one is also tricky, because the sweet potatoes, yes, what's different than normal sweet potato. But also, how are they prepared? Because, are we actually you can have sweet potato casserole, yes, sweet potato other things like pie, you can do the one with the marshmallows, like we used to do, yeah, what were they just well, and also ones where they're just sliced and candied. Oh yeah, those are good too. Yeah, yeah. I wrote it. Wrote candy yarns, candied yarns. Yes, I do love candied yarn, right? Yeah. Also, I'm looking at this list that other people made, and I, oh, I don't think that, not that, not the five. There's just, like, random ones, yeah, like, there's a lot of salads on here. And I don't think we've ever had us never. We've never had a salad for Thanksgiving, never. It's one of the few things that, like my dad, refuses to eat. It's very weird. Yeah, there's a lot of these things people eat. Apparently, they eat a lot of salad. Listeners, I need to know if you eat salads for Thanksgiving, because now I'm very concerned that I've been missing out on a lot of things, because some of these look really good. And I don't ever have any salad in my life, ever. So I just when we lived in Arlington, there was a salad buffet. That's all you did. You walked in called a salad bar.

36:35

Collin salad, an occurrence in America. No,

36:38

but it was

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oh, sorry. It's a thing people do, but no, but it was, it was, it was separate from a normal

Collin  36:55

restaurant. It was like a standalone salad bar, oops, all salad, oops. Yes, pretty much it was like, we forgot the rest. No, we it was right by our apartment. We loved to go there and just get all sorts of salad and, you know, mix it, and it was fantastic. I loved it. And more, I want more of that in my life. Okay, there you go. Okay, oh, obviously there's also, so what's the official name for the cranberry fluff? Is it cranberry slaw? Is it cranberry What is this always called a cranberry salad, okay, but like salad in a very loose definition of the word, where it's like, yeah, because, again, she also grew up through the 60s, where their salads were included in John lots of jello molds used to make the green Gellin mold thing? Yes,

37:41

I know. Yeah, with the marriage and oranges, yes, in the pineapple.

Collin  37:55

Mr. Surprise will not be appearing on my list right today. Did it have did have cottage cheese in it? Yes, yes, it did, at least some variations of it did have Codd cheese in it. Oh, yeah. I was looking at a thing one time about, like, cursed dessert things or whatever. And Susan, I showed Susan. She was like, Isn't that your grandma so I was like, Yes, it is green jello with fruit, maybe cottage cheese in there, in the in the bunk, can bunt pan mold thing, right? Like, that's in the circle, right? Uh huh, the jello mold circle thing. Yeah, that's what it was. Why? What the heck, 1960s What are you doing? I look at some of those pictures, and I'm like, seriously, this those that was all the rage. It would be a cookbook one time is that we were looking at, and there was that stuff in it, and we're just like, Why are you eating this? Mean, we need to do a collab with that be dealt Hollis guy, but like, only jell o mold things. No, you wouldn't survive. That would be hilarious, though he barely survives whenever he makes this, I know, but, like, it's so comedy gold that wants to right? That's a collab. Hey, yo, what's up? We're here, right? That's that's what we're looking for. Yeah, no, I'm just picking up. Yes. I just yeah, the line, jello cell, yeah, yeah, get away from me. No, yes, yeah, yeah. This stuff thumbnail, ladies and gentlemen. Oh, this one's specifically called grandma's lime green jello salad recipe. This has 4.9 stars on it, 4.9 out of 200 out of our What's the age range of all the users? You know, really good. But apparently, cottage cheese jello salad was really i. Yeah, I there's just, I don't know how people found, like, I mean, these pictures. I mean, yeah, Susan's over here, nodding her head along with this. But like, our live research assistant today is not excited either. My gosh, this is just glorious. It's something Imagine, imagine, you know what it looks like. It looks like, it looks like it has a texture of quiche with all like,

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but look at that. Look at look at the sides of that.

Collin  40:28

Yeah, that looks just like the one that she Yeah. That's fantastic with cottage cheese and pineapple. Yes. Man, when as soon as I was like, yeah, and the oranges and the cut and the pineapple. And then my brain was like, the cuts cheese chunks there was, there was, for some reason, oh, it's made of cool, yeah, so much cool with chunks in there. Oh, no, my wife's sending me things. Oh, oh, oh no. That's horrible. That's cursed. Jello salads, yes, jello salad that those are olives. Okay, I can't be sure, because this is just an image. That is celery. Oh, it's the vestigial vegetable. Ladies and gentlemen, Celery is an aromatic. You're not supposed to just eat it. Uh, those. So if we have a celery, we have an olive. I think that's cheese, perhaps, probably just CHED cheese, tomatoes. This is the most cursed thing I've ever seen. I can't, I can't even I do think about that time and like, everything they were using, like jello was new. It was very space Agey, so they put it in everything that's cool. Cool Whip was just coming online, so that was really neat. And everybody loved it. And it was just, what can we make with these cool, new sci fi things? And this was the food of the future. Yeah, our food all in there. Our food moved, yeah, and you just shoved it all so jiggly jiggled. It's appetizing. Jiggly food. That's not. Nobody says that slightly overdone cheese. Oh, so I'm not cheese in there. It's not good. That's not it like what? So I'm not, I'm not including that in our, okay, good in our thing. But here's what I have. So far. I've got mashed potatoes, green casserole sweet potatoes in some form, um, cranberry salad, stuffing. Most of the I've really just labeled things that we typically, yeah, have ourselves. One classic thing that I've seen a lot a lot of people post and stuff that they eat on Thanksgiving that we do not is just like, like, straight up, like, macaroni and cheese. Yes, I do see that, or some sort of the baked macaroni,

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baked macaroni,

Collin  42:49

I feel like this. I feel like we're missing out that. Because I really that's what we really need, tied together. Oh, and what are the potatoes? Cheesy potatoes. Oh, like the potatoes I grew up. Yeah, yeah. I like those are good too. I like those things we haven't mentioned so far as pho or sushi or tacos. That's true. That's true because that's a different holiday. But I keep forgetting to bring up, but that is the turkey revolt Tuesday, official menu. We were having shout out, dusty, what's up? So yes, that that would be the other option. But okay, sometimes you just want to eat tacos and french fries and sushi all the same time. The same time. And you know what? Go for it. Do it. I support you in this decision, like this is the way to go. That's what no it is we were having. I forget how much I really like ramen and how flexible it is we get. I forget what brand we get of ramen. But, my goodness, just a cup of noodles sometimes is really all you need to make. Yeah, it's just, it's so wonderful, and you can add a lot to it. It makes you very robust, and you can do, although there's like, actual ramen is obviously spirit cup ramen. But, you know, covering what you need every once while, some nice cup noodle thing. But yeah, so anyway, I think that's on the official Thanksgiving side dish list, either. But what do we think small steps true, sneaking in there like random noodles, as long as they know jello involved, please, like, oh, maybe you know that may have to be the step that we make to sacrifice. So first we introduce noodles and jello. Sacrifice. Slowly. No. Increase the amount of jello over the years. I don't know. It's just noodles. We don't shock the system all, all in one go. I'm just, I'm saying it is an option. I mean, definitely is something that could be done. What is that? It's a pickleball, it's a pickle. I was looking for. That's what I'm looking for

45:20

the whole that's what you are looking for.

Collin  45:24

Have this picture on the phone. Listeners of pickles dressed up in an evening wear, dancing, dancing. It's a pickleball. Yeah. I found it all right. Side dish quest. Side dish quest. So, okay, so we've got mashed again, mashed potatoes, green beans, sweet potatoes, cranberry salad, stuffing, macaroni, cheesy potatoes. It's just okay. Okay, yeah, apparently not salad. Who knows, no, that are hot rolls aside there. Oh, well. So I was also going to ask if something like gravy would be a side gravy is a side dish. I think that's like a sauce for a sign. You could put gravy on whatever. But gravy is just like an accompany rolls. I'm gonna say gravy is a condiment. There we go. T shirt on Thanksgiving, gravy is a condiment. Oh, new merch drop. Oh, brother podcast. Gravy is a condom. Let's go on everything that's coming. So only T shirts. T shirts, I think the Canadians approve, right? Canada, we knew you had it, right? Colton, rolls. Oh, I would say, roll. Okay, so that's okay, man, well, that's hard because my bread, yeah, there are the hot rolls, right? Yes, yeah, they are. They are separate. That's for sure. They are served on the side. So, like, I sometimes you get a little special dish just for you. That's true. We put gravy on your hot rolls too. There's no go for it. That is one nice thing about well laid out Thanksgiving is the combination of food items. I know you're not a big mixer of things most times, but like giving a damn. You mean you yam? Oh yes, I Yes. I got a head nod.

47:23

How you could? Anyway,

Collin  47:24

I could mix things like, Oh, I'd like to have chicken, turkey and mashed potatoes. Or I could have, like, Turkey mixed with my candied sweet potatoes, or mine jello salad salad. Yes, it all pulls together. Yeah. Oh, dude, it'll just be all in a jello mole all those Thanksgiving I bet there's. I'm gonna look and see if I save that thing, because I have, I was a cooking thing that I should I don't know where it was. I'm gonna find it. Okay, well, so I, I'll go first with my number five. Or are you searching for your Oh, no, you go ahead. Okay, I'm gonna go with my number five. I do like these. They are not my favorite, but they are standard. And I do like having these at every meal, not every, every Thanksgiving,

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every breakfast and lunch. I'm

Collin  48:19

gonna say again, these are not my favorite, but I do want to have mashed potatoes. Okay, big mashed potatoes are must have, and I like having them. That is true. I think, I think my number five, I'm going to put sweet potato in some form, right? Yeah, I think some sort of sweet potato. Something goes at five. I because I do like it. Oh yes, I like it a lot, and I do want it. I only want the Thanksgiving. It's very Thanksgiving specific for me. I don't really want it. I mean, every once a while it's fine, like I eat sweet potatoes, but like, specific, like, sweet potato casserole baked things are very candied with the walnuts and stuff and everything. Yeah, that's, like, extreme Thanksgiving. So, like, I think that's five. This is gonna be difficult, because we maybe do some re ranking as we work through this, we'll see. We'll see. Okay, yeah, okay. Well, for my number four, I am going to say the sweet potatoes of some variety, because of their Thanksgiving specificity in my life of I do only want these on Thanksgiving. There's no other time, no other occasion where I think is it appropriate to break out these who in this form, right? It's not just like a random Tuesday situation, right, like, right? You. I'm not saying you need to go talk to somebody if that is the case, but it's just not what I would do. Okay, yeah, there's no rules. Fine. I. So I think, I think just because we mentioned it, uh huh, I think it's a wish list food that I want Thanksgiving. I think I'm gonna put macaroni, ooh, an aspirational Mac and inspiration macaroni of four, or that's pretty high. Never

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be well, I'm

Collin  50:18

singing like things on this list that I'm gonna put there. Oh, okay, that's where it'll go, Sure. Because again, macaroni is not something that I ever Yeah, right. Like, every once while, like, it's okay, but like, it's a good, solid side dish, right? I feel like it's a quality side dish that goes with a lot of stuff, and I don't know why Turkey and or ham stool, like, Yeah, we're gonna put an aspirational macaroni and cheese, Okay, number four, like a voice festival, like the baked one with the ball. Yeah? It's, it's kind of in that it is, kind of, it is in that realm of, like, casserole esque, yeah. Dishes can be, can be, yeah? I think that elevated to more of a Thanksgiving, if not just made in a pot. Just like, craft record, yeah, we're not so we're talking about, yeah. We're saying, you know, yeah, cast, roll it up a bit, yeah?

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Like, okay, Midwest sentence, you just

Collin  51:22

everyone. In Minnesota just went, oh

51:24

yes. Now I'm listening. How

Collin  51:28

can we or actually they say, I believe you mean a hot dish, but it's fine. We are all like, right, yeah. So sticking with that theme I am I know it's derisive, and I know it is derided on many an occasion, I do like green bean casserole. That's fine. I do and and it's even worse whenever it's like, if I could just be like, made with the mushroom soup, stuff like, yes, classic Midwestern creamy, casual cream mushroom soup, the little dried onion things on it, Chris, which, if You eat actually, by themselves, they're not all that tasty. They taste kind of like cardboard and like they're weird, like, Oh, I like fried onion blossoms. No, that is not what this is. This must be baked on something dehydrated. It's really not good. No, yeah, yeah, I'm a, I'm a, I know I'm the odd one out here, because, like, I do not like Green Casper at all, not even a little bit. It's not good, but in my opinion. But again, there's no rules here. Thanksgiving means about eating whatever you want. If you want to eat green bean casserole, go for it. I think it number three, three, okay, I'm gonna put, I would put hot rolls. Hot rolls. This is why I'm asking, because I needed them on this list somewhere, because I do like a good, homemade Thanksgiving hot roll, yeah, and again, hot rolls, at least in my life, are a holiday food. These are not things that we are just consumed frequently, right? So I think having, uh, roles with thanksgiving and, like, Christmas meals things are, it's like, that's kind of the only time I eat them, really, so, right? Like they're very holiday to me. And so I feel like their inclusion, the side dish important, and I think I've got three, okay, yeah, number three, okay. So, so far I have mashed potatoes and I've got sweet potato casserole, yeah, ish thing, right? Sweet potato something, something and, or yams in some form, that's okay. I've got green bean casserole. Yeah, you've got sweet potatoes, then macaroni, yes, aspirational And now and now, hot rolls. Okay, I am going to go again my favorite Thanksgiving dishes. I do need to have stuffing on here. Okay, yeah, I I'm a stuffing bean stuffing fiend. Now, I will say that as much as I love it for Thanksgiving, there are times where we make stuffing, not on Thanksgiving, and eat throughout the year. Why? That's how much of a fiend I am. Fiend it is, and my wife is also a fiend. So when you have two stuffing fiends, you do eat it randomly, randomly on a Tuesday, that's okay. But again, it's not a side dish. It's a thing that you can just eat with other stuff, right? It doesn't have to be, especially like, when you can get the mix, you don't have to, like, actually, stuff, stuff, yes, yeah. But again, it is like, a I'm showing up to Thanksgiving. I. I expected it. Where is the stuffing? Exactly, exactly. It's fair. Thing number two, I'm gonna go with, this is difficult for me. I'm gonna go with mashed potatoes. Mashed potatoes, I knew they'd be high for you, they're gonna be high for me, I love mashed potatoes. Mashed potatoes is a thing that I will eat anytime, all year long. I don't care. It's not specifically a holiday connotation, but I need it, especially with all the other holiday foods, they mashed potatoes go very well. I love mashed potatoes. I've always loved mashed potatoes. It's my favorite form of potato, I think, yeah, attract i That's my favorite potato form to eat. Like, so much so that when I was little, the deal was we could eat mashed potatoes anytime I wanted. I just had to peel them. I was like, All right, let's go. That's the deal I made with mom, because she hated peeling potatoes. Yeah, hated it. And she was like, I will make them if you peel them, done. Let's go. So, yeah, very high on the list for me. Okay, not a strictly a holiday food, but I think it's like, it needs to be a holiday, right? It is a great mashed potato. It's a great binding agent for a plate. Yeah, is what I will say. That's true, yes. Like, it ties in a lot of different things, like, so the very holiday thing that you have to do is you have to take the role and you have to, like, dredge it through the little bit of Matos is left on the plate. That's the with the MO The role is the mop. Okay, especially the role as the mop in the mashed potatoes is a key factor here. Yeah, yeah. The role of having a mop and or pusher Yeah, or these things, the role really, yeah, ties that in. Yeah. Okay, hey, so I like this. Mashed potatoes, sweet potato casserole, green bean casserole, stuffing, you've got sweet potatoes, macaroni, hot rolls, mashed potatoes. And for Thanksgiving, I gotta go. Gotta have it cranberries. Yeah, that's my number one, right? This is, this is something that our grandmother made forever, and I just liked it a lot. And so again, my grandmother was the type of person that if you say you like something, once you like it forever, and you better mean it, because you're getting it forever. And in like fifth grade, I said, I think I like old Coca Cola stuff. I got it for the rest of time, right? Just forever did I only really like it for like two more years? Yes, have I gotten it? Did I get it every year, like, randomly, all the time?

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Yes, that

Collin  57:50

was the thing. What do you get? Branded something, Coca Cola, right? Yeah, even though that was like a middle school situation, right? That was it. Nope, nope. Forever. Now, this is where you live now, Brandon. This is it in Coca Cola. Coca Cola. You like polar bears. Yep, true. Do because Blam, they're gonna like everywhere. But yes, the grandmother's cranberry salad weirdness that is, I don't It's not salad, listeners, it is firmly in the vein of like there are cranberries in there, there. What else my wife makes it now, my wife has taken up the mantle and does a great job with Yes, of an excellent job of cranberry salad maker, right? And so what else is in this thing? Cranberry Yes, crush pine. See, there's crushed pineapple. Plus, how you know it's a weird one. Weird one, yeah, yeah. And obviously sugar and more sugar, because if you can't, I mean, you can literally not eat a cranberry without sugar, you will. I don't explode, because, like, I don't like cranberries and literally anything else, they're so tart, they're so I actually one of the, you know, one of the leading people groups, lobby groups, that get upset about having To monitor sugar content and food is the cranberry people, because they know, oh, you won't eat any cranberries without sugar. Like, even cranberry juice. Cranberry juice has so much sugar that tart, nasty cranberry juice, even though sometimes I really want that, I don't know why, just makes your mouth be like, yeah, it does not satiate you. No, it doesn't like, I'm so thirsty I'm gonna drink this entire bottle of cranberry chicken. And then I'm still 30 even that Oh, tart mess has so much sugar in it. And like, the people that fight against, like, having sugar, the actual amount of sugar on the label, the hardest are the cranberry people, because they know you're not eating cranberries without that sugar, right? So they're like, now big cranberry out there. Yeah, very yum. Over here, yeah, but anyway, yeah, that's my number one. That is like, because our grandma only made this during the holidays, yep, right. It has a extreme holiday significance for it really pulled that over to the other side of the curve, yeah, curve right. Of like, of the foods that are made throughout the year, of like, you can see in these, yeah, you have them. You can have them. But this is the Yeah, you could have mashed potatoes anytime you want. Collin has stuffing every Tuesday, right? Whatever. No

1:00:28

Taco Tuesday. Oh, sorry, stuffing Saturday. Oh, stuffing Saturday.

Collin  1:00:32

My bad, yeah, my bad. Gotta keep the illiteration going, right? But, like, yes, a lot of the other foods, you can have them whenever, like aspirational macaroni. You can have that on a Tuesday or Wednesday. Let's not macaroni and taco is probably not very good. But like yams and sweet potatoes, yes, Do I just eat sweet potatoes with things? You can eat sweet potato fries with things, whatever. Like you can have rolls of things, right? Sometimes you go to places, they'll throw them at you for whatever you want, but cranberry fluff salad thing is a strictly winter holiday event, right? It's only shows up at Thanksgiving, Christmas, that's the only time it's there. And if there's holiday gathering in our house, there needs to be the cranberry fluff. So I am thankful for my lovely wife who continues the mantle of bringing out, bringing out the bringing out the cranberry fluff salad to the fam, for everyone, yes, also, also, we, I listeners. I'm gonna throw I know my wife number one side dish, right? And I'm gonna throw it out here, right? Her sister in law makes this like Creek corn casserole thing, and that is the only thing that Susan will eat her family holiday. Gather, that's all she wants. She'll be like turkey. What? Get out, no corn casserole. It's like her absolute favorite thing ever. Her sister in law even makes it for her on random Tuesday. So they came down for like, why? Don't even know why they why did we have lunch? They were just having lunch in our house, and her mom invited her whole family, which was fun. And she didn't even bother to tell us. She was like, like, we had to call her. She's like, Oh yeah, everyone's coming to your house. Like they what was that even for? It was like, in the I don't even know why they were doing it wasn't for anybody's birthday thing, because it was in the summer, all of Susan's family showed up my house to eat dinner on Sunday, like they're all there. But what? The sister in law birth the corn casserole. So okay, all was forgiven in Susan's eyes, because there was the corn casserole, and there we go. So I had to throw that out there. The wife's favorite is the corn casserole, right? Yeah, just,

1:02:57

I don't really

Collin  1:02:59

want any of it, but she does. She leave mine so she don't even care more for her when that's nice, right? Look at that. I would say it's a sacrifice, but you don't sound like you, yeah? What I'm more than willing to it's literally the most selfless I could be. Yeah? On Sunday, when we go to hers, I'll just like, get a spoonful. Just give her. Here we go. Make sure that the rest of the family doesn't. Ah, here's your double portion. Okay, okay, well, looks like a good list that I think so, feeling good, feeling good. Yeah, it's a strong one. I just have to his dad to get some macaroni and yeah, we gotta work on that one to see if it actually is good, and then adjust the list accordingly. If it is not, if it turns out it was not a great like, no. So there we go. Bang, ta da, ta da, to end us. We're done, right? Yeah, all right. Wrap up. I do have a haiku. I do have a Mark Twain quote of the week. Oh, you're both right, because this is Thanksgiving, and we are being grateful for things according to Mark Twain. Here's your Mark Twain core of the week. Humor is mankind's greatest play. I hope you agree, if you're listening to the show, good old Marky Mark That's not his name, no, that's not that's the wrong guy. Wrong guy. He doesn't shirt off, dancing around, yeah, doing weird things. Now bring my note down there it is. All right, I'm sad. Here we go. Here is our Thanksgiving episode, Haiku, tying in from last year and earlier today. Torrent of flavors,

1:04:58

pastry, cornucopia.

Collin  1:05:01

Dessert piez. Our dad, our dad again over planner man, he bought nine pies. Actually, he there. He said, there should be 10. There should have been 10. They shorted him a pie somewhere. So he went back and got it. Did he is that? Where he went? Today? No,

1:05:35

yesterday? Oh, yesterday. Got the pie.

Collin  1:05:40

He called them and he said, you shorted us a bite, and they scheduled a specific pickup time, and wow, get his pie. So no, there should be there's 10 pies and listeners only. There's nine of us. Yeah, there's only nine of us. Two of them are small children who really do eat pie, and they shouldn't eat that much, but there's only nine people here, and it's man ordered 10 pies, just in case. Can all go home with pie, yes, or two, or perhaps a cornucopia of pies.

1:06:18

There we go.

Collin  1:06:21

There it is.

1:06:26

Yes, perfect,

Collin  1:06:29

well, we continue our march through,

1:06:33

Indeed it whatever it is, whatever, whatever, indeed, you