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Collin, Brandon

Collin  00:04

Welcome to Oh, brother, a podcast of three brothers trying to figure it all out. Because your hosts, Brandon, Colin, and Aaron, on this week's show, unexpected revelations. All right. Great. I have all of my levels set

Brandon  00:28

to almost all of them.

Collin  00:31

Almost all our journey. We are on the right

00:33

track. Alright, sounds good.

Collin  00:39

So, we went to the Missouri State Fair today.

Brandon  00:44

Ah did it? How many mullets? Did you see? One?

Collin  00:54

It was just one. Well, well, it was a person riding a tractor and the tractor parade they had around all fairgrounds. I feel like that that counts, or like, at least that's

Brandon  01:08

okay. Fair. How many? Cut off short overalls, do you see?

Collin  01:17

Oh, man, you know, I actually wasn't really looking for that. I'm going to go with that. I assume I was able to approximately have at least one for there for three hours. So okay,

Brandon  01:26

yes, I'm just thinking of things that are like at Midwest fairs and such as the State Fair, you should have like Mega versions.

Collin  01:32

Well, no, I will say that.

Brandon  01:35

How many rednecks fighting

Collin  01:40

I was gonna say like setting the State Fair, like, brings a different caliber of people out because they're like, because you have to go further. You have to go further. Right now. There's nothing around here. Like who was coming to this? Um, but yeah, it was mo ag power day. So it was all about agriculture. Ha, and we got to the kids got to see their very first tractor pole. And it was Oh, man.

Brandon  02:09

I was pretty What a moment in history.

Collin  02:13

The little guy it was very, very excited about this.

Brandon  02:17

I can only imagine he was bursting at the seams.

Collin  02:21

And it was it was neat because it was the it was a it was the stock basically of like, there are vintage tractors pulling the track the doing the pole. Nice. That was cool because it was like, it looks like an tractor because and tractor it's about this grotesquely find.

Brandon  02:45

The habit those wins? Like that's the most surprising nonsense you've ever seen in your life. Like I saw.

02:53

Yeah, I saw I remember. I was

Brandon  02:55

at the Rogers one like a long time ago, right? That's like either like right after like either high school or like right when I started college, right. And they have like the super modified and the normal modified right? And they did all those crazy had the big giant crazy like three engines and everywhere. They're all like spat in flames all this stuff, right? And then the last one was like the stock category. And it was like this dude had like a big like I don't know much about tractors. Ladies, gentlemen. I'm a bad misery boy, I guess but

03:33

like a huge

Brandon  03:34

one with like a full cab. Right. It was an old like Minneapolis Moline. Right. And that thing, it just like he didn't go fast, obviously. But it just drugged the sled like there was absolutely nothing behind. It was so ridiculous.

Collin  03:53

Yeah. I remember at that same tracks pole. They eventually hitched up a an old combine and had that pole with a lot of fun. I remember. But yeah, that's what this was. It was just like 14 horsepower. You know, I think that some of the bigger ones were like, ooh, like 70 horsepower tractors. And those things would like bogie.

04:17

Yeah, they go like,

Brandon  04:18

for like three miles an hour, but they just like pull anything. Tamper stop, and somehow

Collin  04:25

they were like, and here's a 1930 edition. It just goes on but but but but but. And so that's what made it enjoyable. Because it wasn't just you know, from the start, it was the most like, an exciting start and finish of like, well, I'm going to start off now in low gear, and then I'm going to be done.

Brandon  04:51

I'm going to just drag this behind. Right. And that was it. It makes sense because their job is to drag like impossibly long. Which machinery around a field? Exactly so like, just like

Collin  05:03

whatever so that was that was pretty cool to see the nice the unmodified, stocky, you know they are there well kept and they maybe not sure why and they look

Brandon  05:15

recognizable as tractors exact that's what they don't like some sort of weird monstrosity it's like what is that? Yeah now final question before we move on to the rest of your fair experience normally it's called a truck and tractor pool. So I just want your opinion. Which one is the superior pulling implement? Is it the truck? Or is it in fact, the tractor? For the for

05:44

this just for your

Brandon  05:46

entertainment purposes only?

Collin  05:47

Oh sure. For my entertainment purposes, the trucks are because they're just all over the place. That I feel like they are less controllable, and more high speed in general. But I, I think for that amusement park, like entertaining, it's more fun to watch. But at the end of day, I do enjoy the fact. So I'm gonna go with entertainment wise, like because the trucks they start to do some pretty insane thing with like you said like, oh, it's the that's, that's the next step to Oh, it's there's all the engines and all that stuff involved that starts getting added? Why? Yeah.

Brandon  06:33

I know. It's hard to know. It's difficult, right? Because like the truck pole. Right? It's slightly more impressive because it's like, a truck is smaller than a tractor. Right? Just in general. Right. As general rule, most trucks are smaller than pulling tractors, right? There are small tractors, but those are not the ones in the tractor pulled normally. So like it's the unmodified. Yeah, right. So yeah. John Deere.

Collin  07:01

Yeah. Like, Massey Ferguson, like 100 series from Yeah,

Brandon  07:06

it's a little tractor, right, like, like, but I also seen some small trucks and charcoal. But so like, anyway, but I think for sheer zaniness, like the tractors just look like the super modified tractors, whatever, they look incredibly ridiculous. And so I like watching the tractors I think now this is of course, a person who has not been to a truck and or tractor pole in a very long time. Many of you so well, I'm going on an old memories only right? Nothing new or current.

Collin  07:47

Well, I mean, not, not a whole lot has changed. I would rather I

Brandon  07:51

would, I just don't have fresh memories to draw upon. Right? Because like 15 year old memories, maybe like, I think it was cool, kind of right. Yeah, the thing again, it's an attention span to shoot for me. So it's like really cool for like 15 minutes. Like okay, this is four hours long. I this is not okay.

Collin  08:12

That's kind of the way Meghan was towards the end we were there for I think all of like seven minutes and she was like, Well, okay, I'm

Brandon  08:20

I mean, yeah, you kind of see one tractor drag a sled down a mud pit, then you're like, okay, like

Collin  08:29

a rule, I guess never really plans for PU. They have in these size classes. They have a

Brandon  08:35

speed limit

Collin  08:37

on the trackers. And if you went over the speed limit, you were deducted points from your total pole but yet why isn't it kind of like a race though? Like, well, no, it's because distance I don't asked

Brandon  08:53

you I guess very battered either. I don't know how it's judged. Yeah, I don't understand. I know that the weight moves on the

Collin  09:00

thing moves forward on the sled. As you drag it, it makes it harder and harder to pull. So that was we I kind of intentionally stayed at the starting line because it's generally less insane there than it is down toward the end. Right where like, they're going when they start bogging down and just like doing our thing it's just kicking in you know bucking and they're really really flying everywhere and and the other thing here is that these weren't doing the superstars where if you know where they really get that red super super high and are like jump up and crazy and the big black billowing smoke again yes, we're not that which was very nice. Which made this a good I enjoyed watching this. It was a nice it was enjoyable. It wasn't just like oh my gosh, like holding on stands like what is happening? It was not that was more Oh look, a tractor driving down a dirt lane.

Brandon  09:59

Sure. I do remember that when I went to like the first one that I ever went to it Rogersville when I was like, very small, I have the distinct memory of being like, this is the loudest thing I've ever heard in my life. Yes.

10:18

So, last.

Collin  10:22

Yeah, they're very impressive machines. And it's absolutely insane. The Engineering and Mechanics that go into just making those, especially that

Brandon  10:31

well, and also when you think about a dude made that in his shed. Yeah. Right. That's the impressive part. Like it's incredible engineering for like, a dude to and his friend in a barn.

Collin  10:45

It really is insane. It's insane for me to think about that. And, and it's neat to watch that. Yeah, these guys out there. And there's, you know, what the drivers are there at there was one kid who was like nine. The two people who TINKER AWAY right and just maintain their their things and then

Brandon  11:06

pull heavy objects. That was fun. I enjoyed that.

Collin  11:10

We made after the prior to that we had made our way over to the sheep barn, which we had never. Oh, ever. And the sheep barn three years ago was like, they completely tore down the old one, which was a little sad. But it was 100 years old.

Brandon  11:28

And it was it tearing itself down.

Collin  11:31

It was an barn and they were like we so it's like, it's like $8 million barn now.

11:38

Gosh, yeah. Well, that's

Brandon  11:39

crazy. It's

Collin  11:41

massive. It's basically the barn size of like a football field or longer. Longer than that it has to be longer than that. And they Yeah, it's just obscene. It's insane. And so we walked over. And we're kind of at the end of all the sheep stuff. So the word crazy amounts there, which is fine, because it's not overwhelming. But we got the sheep walked through the rabbit and poultry barn. And that's really fine. Because all of the cages or the rabbits that are being judged, are all on tables. And so it's like, rabbits are all right at eye level for the kid like that. Just like boom, rabbit in your face.

12:19

Giant rabbits,

Collin  12:21

giant rabbits everywhere. The one thing that I did not do this year that I wanted to do was I really want to talk to the judges. And be like, oh, yeah, like, why looking for are you

Brandon  12:32

because out is one judges sheep.

Collin  12:35

Because, like, like it started with the rabbits because they they have them all on these huge long tables with pages on them. And then each farm, or each person who's there to judge, other rabbits judge has little sections of that table that they designate with ribbons, people decorate their areas a little bit, kind of themes of where people are, and then they take their rabbits for their class or breed or I don't know, and then take them to the center judging table. And so you walk by and it's just like, like 100 rabbits in a row. And they all have the exact same like, exact same. It's like just copy and paste. It's

Brandon  13:20

like a breed standard, like a dog show,

Collin  13:22

maybe actly. Exactly. Standard. They're looking for certain things or judging for certain qualities characteristics, and I was like, tell me,

Brandon  13:31

like, give me like one, right, like, what am I looking for? Yeah, that's when we're ear flop ability.

Collin  13:38

Yeah, right, exactly. cottontail.

Brandon  13:41

This is cottontail. This that has to be

Collin  13:43

one of probably one of them. As the same thing when we went through the horticulture building, so they were judging plants. So this is where people Oh, yeah, all like, I'm like, there's just a gaggle of like, judges walking around the room. And I'm like, what, why or why is this azalea better than that one?

Brandon  14:04

I don't know. Bad flower judging is insane. That's crazy stuff.

Collin  14:08

Especially since it's like, yeah, and they sent just they're judging all sorts of stuff. So I was just like, I know, but it kind of the same thing with like, judging of all of that, like, last year, we, we went through the oh, gosh, who was the meat barn? And so it was like, I was like, Oh, here's all the cured ham here, right? That this one is the best cured ham and you're like, looking at everything else around it. And you're like,

Brandon  14:33

what? Oh, I did it. That Wait, wait, they judge the finished product. I thought they just judged the pig. I didn't know that there was like a category for what happens next.

Collin  14:46

Oh, there is step two. Yep. Oh, yeah. There is

Brandon  14:50

things that used to be a vague,

Collin  14:52

like I used to be alive and now we're not. Yeah,

Brandon  14:55

that's I mean, I had no idea

Collin  14:56

that was a thing. Yeah. That's how you get like the state their best pie in the state pair of pants.

Brandon  15:02

Okay, I knew like a pie, but like, I didn't know that like, Ham was, right. Like,

Collin  15:08

it's all the meat products in their various forms, like the marbling of whatever. Like they did that. They also judge get this, at the FFA building was doing judging on

Brandon  15:19

soybeans. I knew they did things like

Collin  15:23

that. Yeah, I definitely don't know how one judges a soybean and corn, and obviously, cotton corn and all sorts of stuff. But they're like, this is the best cotton.

Brandon  15:34

That makes sense. Yeah. So that you don't because that's how you know what to plant next time.

Collin  15:40

Yeah. And that's farmer can take that and their techniques and because it's, you know, it's their cultivation, it's their environment. It's all that stuff that comes into play. So it's extremely complicated.

Brandon  15:53

And way above my head

Collin  15:56

have an index comprehension of what exactly is going on?

Brandon  15:59

That's true. So, yes,

Collin  16:01

that was fun. I really,

Brandon  16:03

did you see any obnoxiously exotic

Collin  16:07

ducks in the poultry? Not because because poultry. So unfortunately, poultry is early eliminare. Ah, the barn is the first half of the fair is poultry. Second half the fair are the wabbit.

Brandon  16:24

Okay, fair enough.

Collin  16:26

We did not see

Brandon  16:27

one. Duck update. Did you see any excitingly exotic duck species firsthand?

Collin  16:33

Unfortunately, no decay. He's observed.

Brandon  16:39

Yeah, now,

Collin  16:41

with the art building, too, which is one. That's the other thing. This is that the State Fair is literally the size of like, a town. It's over. It's almost 400 acres in depth.

Brandon  16:54

So I always like underestimate how stupidly large it is.

Collin  16:58

And they have like, they have genuine paved streets, and full size buildings that are huge, like massive buildings. They're just like, this is this one. This is the only thing we do in this building. Like, like your hands knows, pretty much the meat, the meat. But this one is just for their art, our building. That's cool. That's nice. Because it's like, just like a hodgepodge of all different arts and art styles. The state bear committee, or whatever they're called, picks an artist and resident every year, and they kind of showcase their things throughout this meeting. Yeah, so like, that's a pretty, that's pretty prestigious, to have to show people to showcase your work. Not in a judging context. But in a, like, I have been selected to like an art gallery. It is it's a massive art gallery. And they've got, you know, photography and sculptors and all sorts of stuff that have matriculated their way up to the state. They're to be judged at that point. So it's really neat. Building with a lot of stuff.

Brandon  18:14

That's pretty cool. Yeah, yeah.

Collin  18:16

And we didn't make ourselves over to the rides, because we're going to save that for this weekend. Yeah, we were just kind of trying to get some sightseeing. We went through, obviously, all of the farm implements and equipment. And didn't this time this year, I don't know how to who is managing state fair

Brandon  18:33

committee. You're on? You're on blast. No, the dealer's locked the doors to the machine. Which is not fun. Illegal.

Collin  18:47

We have a four year old who's obsessed with big giant industrial machinery that's just wants to sit in everything. And I even hit we ran up and we were trying doors and he'd be like, what about this one? What about this one? And I Oh, I felt oh, it just hurts me to be like, but I I don't think we can get in the doors this year. I think they have them a lot. And he was like, Oh, well it can stand next to it. Oh, it hurts. Oh, so we did he did get to climb. They had a bed of full size. They had a bath of combine they're like Brent is wasn't brand new. It was used with one year of use gently used combine for $400,000 It was huge. I mean, I mean tires. I had put my arms up and I couldn't touch the top of the tires and this thing is huge. So they climbed a ladder and went across the walkway over to get the cab into the deck. So we did we did all that and then on our way out while whilst eating a fentanyl cake. We as one does As windows we were surprised by a vintage tractor parade

Brandon  20:07

and as surprises go that's a pretty good one right like of the things that you could be surprised by at the State Fair that's pretty high up on the list of things actually cool right like Oh yes.

Collin  20:19

Oh yes. Like this thing was amazing I'm so cool it was so cool to see all of these and they weren't in any particular order it was pretty much just like a lineup and go kind of thing. Yeah. Which is a little disappointing. like it'd be neat to see like the oldest ones first and put them in like a timeline. Yeah, the timeline are here are the John tears are Massey Ferguson's harvesters are here the cases, here's the boards when I feel

Brandon  20:46

like it should go in order, just like chronologically, like, here's the oldest one

Collin  20:50

first. But, but I don't know if they know, like, who's going to show up with a tracker?

Brandon  20:56

I don't think they do.

Collin  20:59

Like, I think they've just like, whatever.

Brandon  21:02

It's probably just like, if you have a tractor be here at this time.

Collin  21:05

I'm pretty sure you're in. Yeah, they had Malines. They had just like, and some of them I love where they're like, some of them you could tell like this person is this guy is like, I adore this tracker like this was my granddad. It's it's been meticulously maintained, and repainted and paired. And this is everything. I love this tracker. And obviously, everyone loves the trackers and other people who like I found this at a bar, and it is unrecognizable in coloration. But here is like I've left the patina. And I've not restored it. I just got it running. Those

Brandon  21:45

are the coolest ones, I think is the coolest one. Those are my favorite ones.

21:50

We've got those.

Collin  21:52

And there was even like a very URL. It was like super mega early combine which was a side by side. So you were writing it in like this weird sled and then the Thrasher was right next to your father. Okay,

Brandon  22:06

I'd like to talk about dice. Those are like horrifying.

Collin  22:10

Oh, no. Like, there's like there was some have like the open like, worrying fan belts. And oh, yeah, like see that. That's why That's why farmers don't have figures.

Brandon  22:23

is true. And

Collin  22:25

there was also like another like, kind of still early combine was a tiny thing was super cute. And there's all sorts of trackers without that some of them have implements on the back too, which also made them cool of like, yeah, that is a two row plow. And now like that tractor can only allow two rows at a time. Now we have one here, like, a billion rows at a time. Yeah, like, it's just so it's kind of cool to see that. And I I seriously don't think there were any tractors that are newer than like the 70. Which was also neat. They had some massive John Deere is in there still and just gorgeous. Like, oh my gosh, Mass. Ferguson's were like, weird that dad's tractor

Brandon  23:13

is almost old enough to be in the 80s tractor parade if you have a few treasures in the seven years in there almost almost most that's upsetting. makes me upset a lot. Like very upset. A lot. Very, that's distressing because that tractor and me are close to the same age so that's very not okay. So,

23:38

that was unacceptable. None okay.

Brandon  23:45

So that was

Collin  23:47

that was a great day. That was a great way to end up just like a mere snack of

Brandon  23:53

surprise tractor parade.

Collin  23:56

We're sitting there, we're walking and eating in the GSE a tractor driving towards you. And you're like, well, that's not unexpected at the state true.

Brandon  24:04

But then you notice it was followed by more

Collin  24:07

or less as they rounded the corner and we're like, we're gonna sit down and we're gonna see what's going on. No idea what we're going to observe. Oh, that was it. It was the perfect day. It was like 80 with a breeze and partly cloudy.

Brandon  24:28

So do today I was cold. I don't know what happened. Or what mysteries witchcraft is happening, but I was like, It's 65 degrees right now. What?

Collin  24:45

Yeah, I know. I was like, I'm going to leave the back door open for a little bit.

Brandon  24:49

I need to take my jacket to work today is weird. Yeah, yeah, it was beautiful. And so then, then, I mean,

Collin  24:59

I have I I have talked about my love of farming on the show, and how I have desires to be an end farmer, coffee farmer. However, this did not help at all. Oh no,

Brandon  25:13

I think it gets worse every year you go to the fair, every year you get like that the desire increases just a little bit more every time.

Collin  25:21

It does, watching Jeremy Clarkson's farm did not help in any stretch of the imagination. Now watching all these and then and then you don't I did. Have you

Brandon  25:30

been watching the other day? You got to watch the tutor monastery for him.

Collin  25:33

That doesn't help. That doesn't help. Then what I did was I when I was, you know, because you see these tracks, and you're like, that tractor. I don't know how much that's worth. But like, oh my gosh, like I can't even imagine. And then you go and you're like, what does a vintage Massey Ferguson that you could like actually use on a farm today? Which, by the way, the fact that these tractors like this, okay, just the longevity of these things just continues to blow my mind of like, Oh, yeah. You could literally put an implement on it, and go to work a day. Like that. So when out naturally when we returned, and I was on the internet, and I was like, oh, for like $4,000. Like, you could have Yeah, one of these. I was like, oh, oh, no, you can like that. I

Brandon  26:29

we talked about this the last time we talked about farming very seriously, that was watching that YouTube show about the guy that like, he just found a tractor. And he's doing a farming season with like, only found implements? Oh, yeah. Right. So like, the tractor that they it was just like sitting out in the field. And it's like, dude, like, it hasn't run for probably like 20 years. And they spent like a day and a half, like kind of working on it. And it runs like, like, they had to, like, clean out the gas tank and like bleed everything and like replace some fuel lines and like, Sure, sand the points in the distributor and they had started. What

Collin  27:12

I understand that, like, if you were wanting to get one of these for hobby farm, I think the hardest part would actually be finding implements for it. That's even that's true. It's old. It's old. Right? And finding the connection points. And I know that PTOs haven't really changed a lot, but there's Yeah, that's true. Connections.

Brandon  27:31

Yeah, but if you are buying just like old used stuff, too, because there's lots of places around without this caveat. There are lots of places in the Midwest that just sell like old farm equipment. Yeah, right. Or like there's like a bazillion farmers that just have like old stuff in their barn. Yeah, cuz they don't sell it right and there's like it's you're gonna find them in sales and what swap meets and so yeah, but here's our round of equipment

Collin  27:59

is in my research. There was also I start to realize like okay, like, I think finding the implements is still going to be difficult, but since most factors haven't changed categories they're still the oh this implement is designed for 40 horsepower. Tractor well yeah 40 horsepower is for today is pretty much the same as 40 horsepower is you know, yes. Unless it's anticipating other electronics or a different drive train or but a lot of

Brandon  28:29

this stuff is not anticipating an electronic is just like plug in PTO hookup hydraulic line done

Collin  28:37

correctly. So anyway, all this to say that Noah decided he wants a to drive the combine to harvest the corn. We're going to plant on our farm. Oh, well, there you go. Lily wants to plant

Brandon  28:52

trees. They go for a nice, I don't know how you harvest strawberry. So that'll be exciting. Thank you. I have not maybe, I don't know.

Collin  29:07

Anyway, that was amazing. And a lot of fun. So we're gonna go back this weekend and ride ride. And that's what we're going to do. We're also going to take a loop by the so we stayed on the end more funnel cakes, obviously more funky. But we stayed on the south side of the fair is kind of looped around the South Side. The dead center is more of the shopee and rides and then the wet the north side is where you get the the the indoor arena for the rodeos and stuff and then there's the horse and cattle barn or on the north side. Then the east side is the big outdoor arena where ZZ Top is currently playing right now. Nice. And yeah, we were what we were leaving and they were doing the soundcheck for the Drum. And so it's just a guy hitting a snare drum like oh, yeah, just over soundcheck for the worst over and over and over, and then there'll be a light tap and there'll be heavy tap to be go back. And make it was like What is he doing? I was like, not checking his drum kit. Yeah, he's not now checking. He's having a person go, it'd be a subject for

Brandon  30:19

this exam check has been done.

Collin  30:22

It has been conducted. So

Brandon  30:23

that Yep. It's a huge property and see other giant horses. Another thing where it's like, the variety that you will see in horse is like, absurd, right? Like? Yes. Yep.

Collin  30:43

Usually at the end, I think that's when they do I think horses may be earlier and then cattle towards the latest. I think we're just gonna see cows, the end. show cattle. We we stumbled across them last year. And they were giving them exacting haircuts and trims to show

Brandon  31:03

Oh, yeah, you talked about that? Yeah, that was weird. I think like it as a non farm animal expert. Right? To say the least. Yes, That's putting it mildly. I would say that, like, if I was gonna have the choice between looking at cows and looking at horses, it's gonna be horses all day long, right? Like, I don't want to, like ride them. Right or anything like that. But I think I think there are like, to me, the untrained eye. The differences in horses are much more stark and easy to recognize. Right? So you can sort of just as a layperson, appreciate them easier. Right? Because you can like, you can just tell like, those horses are different. Right? Those are different kinds of horses? Or is it a cow? You're like, I am like, yep. Look, also a cow. Like, I don't really know. Hello? There's a few. There's a few that I know like, for sure. To watch more obvious anxieties YouTube expert in this field.

Collin  32:32

They are well, and yeah, they're just for me, there's more familiarity with them. As far as more connection also true. And yeah, you

Brandon  32:41

can definitely tell more lies. But I Yeah, so I just see more variety there.

Collin  32:47

I think, for whatever reason, after the cattle, big, big cow will be riding in let us know of all the different varieties and possibilities that they have there. So yeah. But yes, I'm, and those are cool barns to because they are like original to almost all of the buildings on the property are pushing 100 years old, or so. Which I just love, that adds an aesthetic to it. And the horse barns are some of the original original buildings, they definitely have a really cool feel and architecture to them, and just how they're laid out to have like, very long rows with stalls on either side, and the how the, how they have also all the traditions that are there of, of, you know, here's where we hang the plaque or each arm that's here showing and that's how we hold it and you can see the banner is this way and they're allowed this X number of stalls per person and whatever the lot that goes into it. You don't initially think about it can give you a more appreciation for that. And I just liked seeing that I liked seeing those things continue to carry on. Even though I am not taking part in any of them.

34:07

They are just like whatever.

Collin  34:09

I think they are important and need to be around and make people make everybody better when we are more when we know more about them.

Brandon  34:19

It's so yeah,

Collin  34:20

i i another reason why I enjoy going to the fair is to see a part of society and culture that we thought I personally really are also very disconnected from

Brandon  34:38

Oh yeah, no, that's cool and important stuff to do that

Collin  34:51

are you Are you fully integrated back into your

Brandon  34:55

school? Yeah, pretty much like the kid So we'll come back on Tuesday. Right? So tomorrow is open house. Yay. Open House.

Collin  35:09

That's my favorite you.

Brandon  35:11

I love staying in school till seven o'clock at night. It's the coolest. So it's fine. It's whatever. I'm basically done with my stuff. Like, I don't

35:23

really have a whole lot to do tomorrow.

Brandon  35:26

I don't really tell it if I have to watch more training videos like everyone's favorite blood borne pathogens training video. It's beautiful. I don't you know, it's just like the we have to watch them for insurance purposes. Oh, sure. Like, there's a link to like a website. It's like a third party company that like curate them. And then you log in with your school registry, and then it It tracks that you've watched him. And there's like a little quizzes and stuff you have to take along the way, like answer these couple questions as you do it, right. So it's for like insurance purposes and stuff like that. So it tracks that you have watched them. And that is done. So whatever. I was sitting in my room typing some stuff today, I put on my board and I was just watching it. Okay. JP JP did a bunch of that. I did some like just random housekeeping stuff, right. And like, I seemed whatever. Like, I changed one of my activities in the first unit. I did some stuff, I changed my progress monitoring. Protocol, right. Like to do this. I had to go meet with the science team. Talk to them a little bit. fun, exciting. Yeah, so just kind of doing stuff, right. I feel a little bit weird, right? Because like, everybody else is like doing all this new all this stuff. Because they have all this like new things. Like the English department has like brand new stuff. And like there's brand new math curriculum and elementary and they're all like, Oh, I got all this stuff to do. And I'm like, yeah.

Collin  37:11

Do to, like, over here. Yeah, I'm

Brandon  37:15

just don't mind me just not doing stuff because I don't like my stuff is already done, because I've done it before. So like, I get a little bit awkward, but like, it's alright, so just last minute stuff random meetings about nonsense. Big meeting today. That should have been an email, right, you know? Oh, yeah. I love those. So, you know, is that right? Just like, okay, my brain is sort of turned back on to like, Oh, yes. school work. Right. Okay. Got it. I understand now.

Collin  38:04

into harm's way for me to make sure we are engaged in.

Brandon  38:08

So we have a last was a half Thursday was tomorrow, right? And then we were off Friday. And Monday. So four day weekend, and then the kids come on Tuesday. Yeah. Tommy good. Trade is gonna get started. Now, at this point. I'm like, I'm just gonna start, right. Like I don't. I'm not a person that needs everything to be just so before I begin a thing, right? I'm kind of just like, I got pretty much. Let's just start and see what happens. Right. Like, I was just go. And then like, as we're going, we can make changes as needed. Yeah. I mean, like, that's, that's just how I am like, personality wise. And I know a lot of people I work with are not like that. Right? They must have everything. Exactly. So before things

Collin  39:10

can begin. I'm just like, let's go.

Brandon  39:13

Let's just start, see what happens. Right? Move, move, move. Like there is a certain level of things I need to do first, right. I'm not just like going to jump in there without doing right, obviously, but like, my threshold for like, completion ism is not very, as high as there is. We have to get things 100% done before we leave, and I'm like, 80 is good. And we can just go for it. You know? The start and we'll make it up as we go. And we'll, we'll just do changes as needed. Right. It's okay. Right. Right. I'm embracing the scientific method. Right. So I'm doing Look at that. Good. Good. You. Yeah. So that's kind of where we're at. It's kind of like had to put some like final things away. Because you know, I don't think parents like random papers scattered around when they come in to see the class for the first time so you know just some fishing, tidying up and putting stuff away and then I got the majority of that density while I was watching my videos. Oh, good. Some tidying up like, oh yeah, this needs to go over here because I can't leave it on this table. So where am I going to put this? I'm going to have more room. I finally kept it now so I have some space wonderful. Yeah, it's kind of stuff. It's gonna do that. So began, we had some adventures though, outside of school, right. So we were a couple of weeks ago, we were up at Susan's mom's house and like her sister was there and her niece was there and her niece has an adopted daughter, right? Who's like 15 Okay, then she's like, did foster care and she's like the guard whenever. And, uh, she was like, Hey, do you think that it'd be okay if sometime I went and spent the weekend with Brandon and Susan. And we're like, why would you want to do that? I can't think of anything more boring what she did last week, we came he came down we went to meet him in Springfield and she came down here and hung out and stuff so it was I guess Yeah. Yeah, we did. We went to Barnes and Noble because we were in Springfield. So we just had you know, I accidentally stopped there. Oh, no. Yeah. Whoopsie daisy ran a couple errands and then came back and they did the person crafty things right because Susan has been finishing a library based craft so she is also very artsy person so they did some like painting and like hung out. And yeah, it was pretty cool. We went saw movies have a movie review for you oh, oh. Oh yes. We actually saw two one earlier that we play with our friends and then we went and saw one with her so Movie Review corner incoming but yeah, we don't have a soccer mom for a little bit and it's hung out so yeah, I think she had fun but I cannot for the life be figured out why a 15 year old person would want to come down here like on purpose like Yeah, so we're gonna read and get some takeout and sit around

42:55

Oh, and you're the

Collin  42:59

cool one. Right I guess

Brandon  43:01

I think we're the more laid back ones. So there's that that's a big thing. Yeah, so it was it was nice. I guess you had fun it was fun kind of because we don't like see her very much so that was kind of cool right coming out whatever So yeah, that was our big adventure person decides to come see us a person one time with an ally very confusing but so we went and saw movie star with her first okay right movie review corner the review as these movies are still in theaters this will be a relative this will be spoiler free. Movie Review. Okay, Movie Talk right? We saw it with her we went and saw this movie called fall right? Which is exactly what it sounds like. It is not about autumn boilers okay it's like so the beginning of this movie is very like Vertical Limit. It's about climbing. Okay, so like these three friends are climbing a rock face is the first seen the movie so this is like relatively spoiler free.

Collin  44:26

climbing a rock face when an accident occurs. Dawn, Dawn, Dawn dawn. And one of them you guessed it

Brandon  44:32

falls and then so small critique. Their rock climbing safety procedure is absolutely trash and should not be replicated by anyone ever. Okay. It's very bad. They had in so they were doing that thing we like to people awk are tied together and they're climbing. Yeah, you know, we do that. Guess how many anchors they had set in the wall between them? Oh, did they have?

Collin  45:09

Did they have? Did they have one? They did have one. How did you know time? Well, because I thought, surely it's not zero because that's ridiculous.

Brandon  45:24

Why are they even tied together? If it's zero?

Collin  45:27

That's why I was like, okay, surely it's at least something.

Brandon  45:32

It was one badly placed acre. Anyway, so they do that. And so the dude that falls is like, one of the girls like the husband or something, right? They're like, in love or whatever. And so she is very devastated. Okay. Her other her other friend is gone for a while and she like comes back like a month later. Her friend is still a wreck. And so she's like, let's go on an adventure. It will cheer you up. And so their adventure, they decided to climb to the top of a super mega tall a radio tower. It's in like, this place looks like kind of, like California, Nevada II area. It's like very desert II and empty. Right? But it's like this. They keep saying the word 2000 foot radio tower. Right. And so they climate. Okay, and then things go not good. From there. tangibly? Yes. So the movie they get like stuck atop the tower. Right. And then they have to cope with being stuck atop a tower. It's like 2000 feet up in the middle of nowhere.

46:52

What? What looks like California, I'm

Brandon  46:54

guessing. Yeah. Yeah, that's right. It is alright. Movie, right? Here's, here's okay. It's not like, amazing. But it's okay. Right. This is produced I found out later, the same people that produced the tragedy of 47 meters down my most hated movie of all time. This one is better, a little bit, right? So that is trashes that movie. But hey. So I would much rather watch this one. However, Susan is a person who is afraid of heights. And she was watching this movie, and it triggered her like hardcore. And she did. Oh my god, she was like a very uncomfortable watching from behind fingers. Right? Like, she was not doing well. So if you are a person who is even like a little bit afraid of heights, do not watch this movie. Because they do lots of like, oh, no, this is very high and bat like they do a lot of that right? So don't be afraid of heights person. Do not watch fall. Wait, I mean, let's be real. You could probably get that from the name of the movie. Right? Yeah. But do so it's pretty good movie. It's one of those movies. It's like it's a trapped kind of movie. Right? You're trapped in an area. This movie has like four people in it. Right? So I think it was made for like $8 So even though like it's still pretty good, even though it was made for like $8 and like it's not like super amazing looking and stuff but it's pretty good. Right? The stuffs pretty good visually good. Visually apparently. If you're afraid of heights person enough to be scary. So

Collin  48:48

what it sounds like it kind of fits in the genre of movies that I was talking about doing that go back all the way through are continue to go back to her shark episode but the premise of like, normal everyday activity goes terribly wrong. Although this isn't a sign of ordinary because who goes and climbs a house and foot radio tower? Well,

Brandon  49:12

exactly. That's true. But But yeah, it is a seemingly innocuous situation goes bad and then you have to deal with outcome. Right? It's like it's it falls into the realm of believable like, other than like, why would you do that? However, I did learn doing some googling after the movie is over. Do you know where the eighth tallest radio tower structure in the United States is located? That

Collin  49:50

gotta be honest, I don't know why I would know that piece of

Brandon  49:55

Well, I was Googling tolerated because they kept saying like this is the tallest one and I had remembered that there was some sort of like really tall radio tower in California somewhere. I believe it fell down at some point. So I was trying to figure out like, what this movie could be like, what this tower could be based on, right? Because they kept saying the name like everyone would know it. But like it's made up, you know, but I was doing some googling about tall, tallest structures, the United States, the eighth, according to Wikipedia, I believe it was the eighth tallest structure with the radio tower structure in the United States. Located in Ford land at Missouri. What Yep. Yep,

50:40

what does it do?

Brandon  50:42

That's what if I can find that list again? He Yeah. Yeah. All is it is like 600 and some meters. So it's like about the 2000 feet that the movie was Yeah. Find it again. Yeah. tall structures. United States. Yeah. And importantly, here,

Collin  51:18

this is structure. So anything standing? Yes.

Brandon  51:22

Not Yeah. Now not just like, What is a masted structure? Where did it go? I can't find the list again. It was only though. It was like ridiculous. It was like 610 or something meter saw. I was like, what? The heckles is that so yeah,

Collin  51:45

I go, Okay. Well, that's actually yeah, I'll try. I'll try and check on that list. Included in the donut. Is that oh, here

Brandon  51:51

it is. Yeah, it is. 609.6 meters. It is the Kayo LR tower.

Collin  51:58

Gosh, it's for TV station.

Brandon  52:00

Yeah. What? I think it's the guide mast tower for England, Missouri. I'm gonna send you this you go that's the I learned that exciting piece of news. So this story could happen in Portland, Missouri. Oh, perfect. So now we know don't climb radio towers. Especially not ones and fourth. Don't do it listeners. I must say disclaimer do not these again these are these are not highest altitude.

Collin  52:42

These are not these are these are just like from base to tip like yeah, how tall?

52:48

Wow. It's stupid. I

Collin  52:53

almost was not okay. Like I don't even know. Yeah,

Brandon  52:56

that's so tall. I was like, I was shocked. I was looking at this list and I was like, do to do to do

53:02

what support Missouri? Yeah. Deli b I

Brandon  53:07

grew up 10 miles away from the zig and I don't even know like what the heck yeah, there we go. That's shocking revelations from the movie fall unexpected revelations. expected. I feel like that's just

Collin  53:32

continue with being here

Brandon  53:33

is true. It's like a tagline for the show. Right.

Collin  53:38

Like and then, and then we looked around the corner and found

Brandon  53:43

a vintage tractor parade. Oh. Yeah. Yeah, there we go. We watched that movie. And then yeah, we also before but previously, in the week, we're going over their friends like we were eight and like cooked and everything. And we went and saw that movie bullet train with Brad Pitt. That movie is hysterical. Really? Yeah. Mad. It's like, hey, it is like, if you are a person that likes like stylized over the top kind of action mixed with a wee bit of silliness in your life. That is the movie that you need to watch. Right? Like it's very It feels like it's very like a Guy Ritchie movie with like, just really quickly. Weird joking dialogue, right? And then like, really sudden bursts of like, really bizarre action sequences like what like what what's the what's the overall

Collin  54:55

premise?

Brandon  54:56

Overall premise is like Brad Pitt is some sort of like He's like sunk. He's like he's doing some kind of job. It's like a Snatch and Grab job, right? He's some sort of criminal, right? Who is on the side having some sort of existential crisis about his life. That's a side plot. He's like supposed to go on the train, steal a briefcase, and get off. Right? And then things go very, very, very downhill from there. Right? Turns out the briefcase he's trying to steal is like, ransom money. And like, the dudes, there's these dudes on the train that are like, supposed to deliver the ransom money to this mob boss. Right? And then they just sort of interweaves from there. But it's cool in that, like, it was it was like, every little thread connects somehow to something else. And then, like, later on, they will jump to that and be like, Oh, I remember this. This is why it's important. Right? Yeah, kind of like, Fe, like, stylized thing, like, introduce a character with like, a title screen, you know, and the thing and then they, they sort of like they all the little loose ends of this movie tie up together. Oh, that's super satisfying. It is very satisfying, right? Like, not maybe not everything I maybe miss some but like, the the big plot points and like names of people and stuff. It just it really all connects in these really satisfying ways. That are just like, Ah, okay, that's nice, right? Like, it all connects together. Because again, it's like a trapped room, kind of because it's the whole movie takes place on the train. Right? So it's like, diehard on a train, right? Like? Yeah. And so, like, the whole movie is on this train. And there's all these different characters that show up. And they're all have these various goals. But some of them you have no idea what the heck they are, and why are they here? And how do you connect to the story. And then like, once you figure out that everything is connected, like you get these little hands. So you're watching it trying to figure out how these are connected. Like, why is this person here? And they'll be like a seemingly random person you like, what? What are you doing here, like, and then later on, it all wraps up nicely about how they got on this train and what their goal was, and all that stuff. Really. Ah. And it's a movie that like, I bet if you watch it a second time, it would make even more sense because you get dropped these hints in the middle. Because it does that thing when whenever the revelation happens, it kind of does a flashback moment. Yeah, to like something happened before. And you're like, Oh, that was this person the whole time download. Like, why they couldn't find them, right? Like, this big, like, convoluted plot just sort of like gets distilled down to these moments. And then they all sort of tie up a little bow at the end is very satisfying to watch. So it's like really overly stylized. And that's not everybody's cup of tea. Right now people like that. It's very it's way more humorous and has any right to be because the dialogue is actually pretty good. And some of the characters are funny. Is mega violent, though. So if you are a person doesn't like that, though. Don't watch the movie. But I thought it was hilarious. Good morning. Yes. Good morning. Some people don't not into that. That's cool. But if you don't mind, it's fine. But it's like over stylized by like, you know, with the lights and the filters and everything like that. Making it look all like hyper realistic. Not like it's not like greedy, you know? Or like, like this gangster movies where it's like realistic. This is not a realistic turn of events that are happening.

Collin  58:59

Obviously, yeah, take a step back, though. This is this is one of those of like, okay, this is an absurdity to look at. It's fine, I guess.

Brandon  59:09

Yeah. It's kind of like, you know, like, it's kind of like it's got a little bit of that, like, Kill Bill flair of like, this violence is over the top. On purpose, right, like, it's just like, way more than is normal. Yeah, there's some moments like that. But it's kind of like, artsy, whatever, but it's kind of the CDB. It's the opposite of the movie fall, which is like a movie that is very grounded and realistic and things could happen except for like, maybe one or two things like It's like reeks of realism. And then on the other end, you have bullet train, which is like there's nothing realistic about this movie. Except for the premise that a person would try to steal a briefcase that's probably

59:55

right, like go

Brandon  59:59

together. People steal briefcases. That's the realism. After that, it's, it's gone. Like it's I really enjoyed watching it. We were like laughing all the time. So that was good. I mean, that's a sign of a good movie. I don't know. It's, I like being able to laugh and like, Yeah, it's nice when a movie like, doesn't take itself seriously. Right? And like, it knows, it knows what's up. So let's begin. So we did my exciting movie review corner. Thank you very much. Yeah, that's pretty much it. Just getting ready for one last weekend of whatever. And back to work, children coming back. Right?

Collin  1:00:57

That's because this was your first summer without doing like, summer school and all that stuff, right?

Brandon  1:01:03

Yeah. First one in a while. I didn't want another one before. But now for a while. So

Collin  1:01:08

I was. What's your how's that been for you? It was great.

Brandon  1:01:12

I enjoyed it a lot. Just because I need a lot of time needed some desire to not be thinking about school stuff, just sort of, even though I didn't do anything, right. I didn't go anywhere. I didn't like have big summer plans. It was just sort of nice to just sort of be Oh, no, not have to worry about that.

Collin  1:01:37

Yeah, I think I was just talking with somebody about that day of the importance of finding mental space, much more than finding physical space away from things of like, not being able to have a period of time where you don't have a mental burden is really important to do. Yeah, especially depending on the severity or the longevity of the mental burden that you're trying to bear. So like being able to unhook. Wow, I don't know what word I was trying to say. But I also tried to say unhook took came out on here. All right. And that really does give you that, that recharge that you need. And like you said, doesn't have to be like, oh, and then I went and I was also, you know, 1000 miles away on, you know, isolated in a cabinet or on a beach or whatever. It's like no, yeah, I can just plug from where I am. Hey, that's what I need. Yeah,

Brandon  1:02:34

I mean, that's, that's fun to write. But like, sure. I don't, you know, I don't require that. Like, I just like Okay, so we're doing this done. Be home, hang out. Do some stuff around. Most importantly, watch the Tour de France. July. That's the big one. Yeah, that's very good. So it did make coming back school slightly harder, because I had my brain was like, What is this? What are you doing at work? Gandalf god? Yeah. Like, what is this place? I have no memory of this place. Like, I always have that like struggle of getting back into school mode. Right? It was a little hard until the other day when I went with the science team. And we talked about like, department goals and like stuff and was like, oh, yeah, okay, I got you. I know. I know what we're doing now. Because the first day is really hard. The other thing is really hard about going to school is this year, they had a bunch of I think I might have missed this last week because a bunch of meetings are about the new curriculum. Yeah, only. So like, everybody in elementary school has to go to this writing curriculum meeting. Except for me and the best friend that teaches sixth grade math, right? We're the only ones where you guys have fun. We're gonna go I don't know why I go to my room and I'm gonna watch him do something. I don't know. I gotta be very important. Yeah, like I want to make some new activities, I guess. See you later. Put my rock collection to use. That's what I'm doing actually.

Collin  1:04:40

Y'all have fun. We will play some rock. Yeah.

1:04:46

So see ya. I'm gonna

Collin  1:04:47

do this is by

Brandon  1:04:50

Yeah, it did. It did inspire me. The mean did inspire me like the 10 minutes of the meeting that I needed to hear to help do it in RTI. Whatever. I started planning my progress monitoring pieces for class, because I was trying to figure out how Wait, like, so we have all Okay, so we have all these like essential standards, right, that are like, what we have deemed to be the important ones. Yeah, like the most important ones to talk about. And then we have our, like, supporting standards, like the ones that go with it, but they're not like the focus, you know, like, we talk about them, but they're not like,

1:05:29

the big ones, right?

1:05:33

So for the big ones,

Brandon  1:05:34

like, the way that I was monitoring how students were progressing was, it was a little too clunky, right? It took too long. Oh, it was like, it was just kind of unwieldy. Like it made sense to me, but like implementing it was kind of difficult. Right? So I came up with a plan to streamline it, and we're gonna see how that works. We're just gonna go for it, and we're gonna see what's up and then whatever. So yeah, we're gonna be I came up with a new way to do it, like, hopefully take less time. Like later, not the first one, the first one. The first couple are always difficult, because they're like, why do I do it? But this one, I put everything in a Google Form. Right? And I'm only going to do it one standard at a time. So also, we could spread it out more. So we know how to do it like, oh, it's multiple the same day? You know what I mean? Yeah, so like, I can just be like, here it is. Bam. And it has their little, like, I can't statements their student first language in the form. It has a brief little like, rundown of what it's about. And then like, whatever the question is either wrote a question that they have to respond to, or some of them are going to have like a diagram for some of the skills like the especially like the convection, currents one, right, like, describe what is happening in this diagram. Yeah. And then they describe it. And then they have to rate how they feel about their ability to answer the question. Done, boom. Hopefully, that will go quicker, because it's all self contained in one place. And I can put all the things they need to know. And pictures or small little written things in there. So it's self contained, and they just do it. And then they go. And that way, I can compare what they thought about their abilities to answer the question, and what I think about their ability to answer the question. Yeah, much easier, because that's the big, that's a hard one. Because a lot of them are always like, we do a, like a 1234. Scale, right? Like four is like, I got it, don't worry. One is like, what he's talking about, right? Sure. And then two is like, I kind of know, but I need some more help. And then three is like, I can do it pretty good. But I might need a little help, right? And four is like, I totally got this. So a lot of times they rank themselves like a two. But like the response that they give me is like, No, that's good. I don't like you put a lot of detail in there. And that's pretty right. So I don't know where you got this two nonsense. Going on. Yeah. And that's where we can talk about it like later on to Zoltar. Hopefully having it all together. Easy to plus, then I can just like wipe it and then you know, if I monitor the same skill a little bit later, I just send them the same one again. And then we can directly compare how they did last time versus the next time, you know. So that's the plan was the algos. Just trying to make it easier to use. Because when it gets too clunky and hard to use, like, I don't want to do it either. So I'm like, it's hard, it's gonna take a lot of time, and I gotta figure out how to do it. But if it is streamlined and easier to use, and the kids can figure out how to do it better, then we can do it more often, which will be more beneficial for them. So we'll see. Well, that's a really important metric, because part of learning in growing is

Collin  1:09:43

yes, knowing that but I think also very importantly being confident in durability. Yeah. And that because that can impede or it can progress your way through material. If you have that attitude of Well, I think we've talked For like, I'm always bad at math.

Brandon  1:10:03

Oh, yeah, that's the class hospital.

Collin  1:10:05

Right? Like, that's the super classic like, but that impacts how much effort you're gonna put into studying. Yeah, how much confidence you're going to have in your answer. Tell me how likely you are to second guess. Versus double check. Those are two different things, and how likely you are to change things you can really does start to mess up. And if you go in and you have hope, you are unconfident, not confident in your ability, it really does impact how you're able to answer and learn material.

Brandon  1:10:33

Yeah, and the fact that it's gonna be like, you're gonna get multiple opportunities to answer this question. And it's going to be the same question every time. Yeah. Right. Like that, like, you get a chance to do it again. Right, you get multiple attempts to answer the same thing. Right. I think that's important, too, for not only for building confidence, but for just practice, because this is just practice, right? That's all it is. It's just practice. That's not it's not the final assessment is what is practice. Like, it's not for any grade, I'm not doing anything with it, except for looking at like, okay, this person is still really struggling with this skill. So what is that? What do I need to do to help them? Right, like, what, what am I what can I do different for this person to help them on this? Journey? Right? That's all it's for, you know, it's not for a grade, it's not for anything. So I think, the multiple attempts and like getting that the hardest part is getting them to be like, I don't care. We put anything down. Just put something down, right. Like I'm not, I'm not grading it. But I am looking at it. Right, like, I'm gonna look at it. I'm going to do everything. I'm going to record this in my datasheet. But I'm not going to put it in the grade book. Right. That's, that's for other stuff. This is only for how to build a spreadsheet. Across.

Collin  1:12:07

You mean, Ray?

Brandon  1:12:09

No. But we that's the big thing that we talked about in the science team meeting, when we were talking about the sorry to turn this back into Brandon's education corner again. But I don't have a sound effect of that. Okay. I will have to get a stinger. Why we were talking about, like, the concept of it's okay to fail, right? Now, the problem is, and the other guy brought this up, he's like, Yeah, but like, in other places in school, they do fail. Right? Because like, if you don't have the certain grade, then you can't play basketball. So like, there is failing happening. Right. And so we talked about how, as for our departmental goals that we had to write, right, like, we need some kind of vocabulary change, because we all agree that it's okay to fail, is a good mindset to have. Right. But it doesn't really jive with the reality faced in the rest of the school. Right. And so we kind of talked about that. That's what we met, we met, it's okay. To not get it right. The first time. It's okay to be, quote unquote, wrong about something, right? Because, as we know, in science, you're not really wrong. He just got an answer that you weren't expecting. Right? It's like a cool surprise. So we decided that, like, we're going to talk about perseverance a lot more. Because that's what we really mean, when we say that, right? It's okay. To, you know, not maybe get the right answer the first time, but it's as long as you don't quit. Right? That's the part that we want to talk about. It's like, it's the not quitting part is that we're going to try again, no problem, we're just gonna try again. And that's what we mean when we say it's okay to fail. Because like, in the science department, like we really push the you can try it again. Right? It's alright, we're going to learn this, we can practice it, we can do it over. So what we really kind of decided we meant was we want to, like, instill that perseverance, where we're only really failing if we quit. Right. Like,

Collin  1:14:32

what's important to recognize that? I think it's defining what failure actually is. Yeah. Because consequences are still important. And there's their needs. Sometimes there are consequences for our actions. Right. And so, yeah, yeah, that's an example of the you didn't get the grade so that you don't get to play ball. I see that more as a consequence, not as it straight up, not as an actual failure.

Brandon  1:15:02

That's true. But as a as a high school kid, you are, you're gonna, quote, fail, you're failing the class. Right? So I think, I think, in that, because you're right, and we were agreeing with what you were saying, right? Yeah, you like you can fail, right? If you don't try and you do less stuff like, that's like, we don't want that. You know, we would rather you not do that, right. We want to create a place where that option is not appealing, you know? But like, yeah, it's kind of a it's a vocabulary, like we were like, just to make it make more sense to the kids, and not be like, confusing, because there are different kinds of failure. Yeah. Right.

Collin  1:15:46

Well, and focusing more less on the endpoint and more on the process. Yes. Right. Like, that's really where you're refocusing a lot of that effort of going, Yeah, we're not going to like that. We're going to try and work in the middle space between Yeah, so like,

Brandon  1:15:59

perseveres just sounds better in that context, that it makes more sense with what we were kind of talking about. So that's what we put on our little paper lab. Now, it's official. Yeah. But just cuz that's the important part, right? That's the important part of this. And again, like, the science classes sort of lend themselves a little easier to this naturally, because that is, like, getting an answer that was unexpected, quote, unquote, failing. And then like, looking at that, and then trying something again, that is the scientific method, right? That is critical thinking, problem solving, engineering skills, right? Those are the things that the science classes and standards are talking about all the time. So that's what we want to have in our classroom. And so we've had the word is like, really? Because that's the engineering process, right? The engineering process is like, you do a thing. It didn't work. And then you go, Okay, what now? Yeah. Right. Like you did it. You did it fail. Like it just didn't work that time. Right. So you just go, okay, and do this thing. That didn't work. Do new thing. That didn't work? Do a new new thing. Oh, that works. Okay, good. Got it. Right. Like, yeah, but like you said, it's the process to go through to try to do that. And the other day, I was like, beating my head against the wall. Because like, my first unit is all about that stuff. It's always like, how, what questions can I ask what scenarios? Can I present these kids that will get them thinking like that? And it is not? Possible? It was so hard. I was like, oh, no, no.

Collin  1:18:01

It is because especially since the because you want a

Brandon  1:18:04

real life scenario, because you don't want to give like a science experiment. Because they'll be like, What are these words mean? Like, no, no, no, no,

Collin  1:18:09

I want? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Especially since a lot because society is set up for people are, quote, unquote, successful people are quote, unquote, failures when they don't meet these things. And you have such a broad discussion about societal expectations, internal motivation, you know, influences and desires that you have, like, it's just, there's so much

Brandon  1:18:36

that you have to

Collin  1:18:38

rummage through to get to the point of going out. Do you see why it's okay.

1:18:45

Yeah,

Collin  1:18:45

it's, it's not a black and white thing. And for, especially for that age group, and what a lot of the cultural stuff is, it's a very black and white. And, yeah, trying to get them out of that.

Brandon  1:19:00

Yeah, and they don't like, and so I just, I came, I just like, Okay, I gotta give him something. Like, because I was just focusing on like, asking a question that you can then like, do something with, right, like the old, the old. It's got to be testable or measurable. Right. So I was like, Ah, okay, got it. Real Life classroom scenario right here. Your pencil is broken. You go to the pencil sharpener.

Collin  1:19:30

You put your pencil in there. It makes the noise. You pull the pencil out.

Brandon  1:19:34

Nothing. What question do you ask now? Right. And at the beginning, I know for a fact they're going to say, Why didn't it sharpen? Not not the best but hopefully we can get some things like is the pencil sharpener full? Is there something stuck inside? Oh, Ha, these are things that we can check for. Right? Boom. So hopefully, trying to lead them in that direction are some like real world things that you will actually encounter this in your life. Okay, this is what you're going to have this is going to happen in sixth grade, like every day. This sharpener sucks. Alright, we just we know, fine. But other thing that we did before like last year, I remember we had to, I was doing like the reading a graph one, right, click read the graph. That's it. Right. But like, they don't do a lot of that before they get to Pisa like, it's really like they want to put like a really? Like they're expecting to have to write some like really like, elaborate, convoluted answer. Right. But like, I really just like, No, no, look at this line graph. Which line is more? Yeah, that's your answer. Get a lot more cut and dry than some other things like I just want. I just want like, because of like, which one of these paints dried faster than like a line graph? Right? Like, which one's shorter? Which one is less time? Why do we display him like this? Yeah. So you can just look at it. But they're like, that's all they want. They're expecting to have to write something like really big. And so they'll just look at it. And they'll be like, I don't know what to do. Like, which, which one was faster? Like, that one? Like, why do you know, then they look at you be like, good? Because it's shorter. Like? Yeah. Really? Yeah. That's why it's not trying to trick you. Okay. It's, it really is that?

Collin  1:21:52

Yeah, well, that again, that comes back into that. How confident are you in this? Right?

Brandon  1:21:57

Yeah, not very,

Collin  1:21:59

not very, at all. That's fine. Right. We can start to match this up a little bit. Yeah, we can. And I think it's important with with those questions, you're asked to point out to them, see how much more confident you are now. Right? Yeah. Is that for you? Like how more natural it comes down? After we've gone through all of these things? That's what the process we're wanting.

Brandon  1:22:25

It's almost like we did it on purpose. Oh, don't tell

Collin  1:22:29

anybody. Right. That's true.

Brandon  1:22:34

Yeah, it's really funny when they finally realize like, oh, wait, this one was took longer. So the line the bar on the bar graph needs to be longer? Yes.

Collin  1:22:49

Wow. Is that getting somewhere? Yeah,

Brandon  1:22:52

I joke about this. I think I've missed on the show before too. But like, I joke about all the jokes in my classes, like science or scientists are literal. Right? Like they're not that creative. Right. You know, when something was named by a scientist because it's like, called Mountain.

Collin  1:23:12

Yeah, they may use words to do that. That's true. But like, that's what that's what it is.

1:23:19

Like,

Brandon  1:23:20

we're talking about, we're talking about all the time. Like, he's, it's very literal. Like they want you to know exactly what they mean when they say it. They don't want her to be guessing. And want there to be like, mystery. No. Boom, this

Collin  1:23:34

Yep. Like this. The species of fish that I studied was fundulus grandis. Why is it grand is because it's the big one.

Brandon  1:23:44

It's like big. Right?

Collin  1:23:47

How do you tell it apart from everything from all the other fundulus It's the biggest one it's the biggest

Brandon  1:23:53

surprise

1:23:57

Yeah,

Brandon  1:23:59

they do that a lot with like, animal species or like, except for like, ornithologist there where they're like blue. Some really crazy thing but other ones are like the great bird of paradise. Yeah. Because it's the big one like they are God. Like it's the hammerhead shark because it looks like a hammer

1:24:22

you nailed it.

Collin  1:24:24

Yeah, literally.

Brandon  1:24:25

Ah. Oh, like oh yeah, sharks. Like this is a black tip reef shark because it lives on the reef and its fins are black tipped. Blue next. Next is the oceanic white tip. It lives in the open ocean in the tips of its fins are

Collin  1:24:45

white that attack them here in

Brandon  1:24:50

the scalloped hammerhead because the hammer on its head is scalloped.

Collin  1:24:58

Ready to pay attention to shark weakness.

Brandon  1:25:00

Did Yeah, that's great.

Collin  1:25:02

All this is coming from.

Brandon  1:25:04

It's also just a really good example of what I was talking about. I tell the kids all the time like it's so that's what I tell them when they're writing their science. I was like, name it like a scientist. They'll be like, What do I call this assignment? Like, what is it? They'll be like volcano article. So what should you call it? Yeah. Like volcanoes article like the year yeah, go we have a winner. Or yeah, that I they always do that when I the severe weather presentations that we have to do. Like, what should I call this thing? What is it? Like what are you doing it about them? Like, Hurricane so you should call it that'd be like Hurricane presentation yes, there we go. And it will help you find it in your file management like when you're looking through like where is oh, there it is. There's that hurricane where's that hurricanes? Oh, the one that says hurricane Yes. All start there

Collin  1:26:24

blam you to listener can implement these easy to use picks life late label them.

Brandon  1:26:34

That's true. Just name it exactly what it is. And it'll be fine. With B name things like a scientist, right. Yeah.

Collin  1:26:45

And on that bombshell,

Brandon  1:26:48

we'll wrap it up and bright. Good. Well,

1:26:54

enjoy your last few days of freedom. Indeed.

Brandon  1:26:59

Continue reading murder mysteries, right that is that goes year round. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I did forget to tell you one small, small thing. I may have bought the lord of the rings that was illustrated by Tolkien edition.

Collin  1:27:21

Yeah. Well, so. That'll be the next time we're all together.

Brandon  1:27:28

It's pretty cool. It's like the big giant like three in one edition. Right? But it has all his illustrations in it. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Okay, that's my token collection over here. Wrap it up. Yes.