In an episode totally recorded all at the same time and internet connection, Brandon and Collin share their thoughts on the newest release of The Grand Tour. But first, they discuss basement cheese and the concept of Ozark Mountain Duck Racing. Collin celebrates the return of the Honday, while Brandon laments the lack of Peugeot 206s.

Collin’s not so good week
Ozark Mountain Duck Racing
Headlamps are life saving
Basement cheese
thermocline in my house!
At long last… the Honda has returned
Collin doesn’t like the newer Accords
Like nothing ever happened!!
The Grand Tour: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9vdHoxuaQc
We have concerns
Lack of Peugeot 206s
Just too contrived
Season 14: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_Gear_(series_14)
New with Brandon
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SPEAKERS

Collin, Brandon

Collin 00:04

Welcome to Oh brother, a podcast of three brothers trying to figure it all out with your hosts Brandon, Colin and Aaron on this week's show thermocline in my house

00:19

boy oh boy. It is a Wednesday and in fact is in fact yes

00:27

yes

Collin 00:28

yes it's been It's already been a kind of insane week

Brandon 00:33

not did not start off well at all a little bit novel. Oh, wow. That's day so I so Sunday night I go to sleep. But as as one does as one does, like

Collin 00:54

10 3011 o'clock I go to the bathroom one more time. Okay, good. Well, sorry to my people. Whenever

Brandon 01:01

I go to bed works. Sorry folks go downstairs, downstairs, lay on the couch and I fall asleep.

Collin 01:07

I wake up to around two o'clock in the morning to a sound I'm trying in my hay is trying to put this together and we do have a dog staying over and I'm like that the sound of a dog peeing. That's

Brandon 01:24

that's a lot a lot of urine. So I sit bolt upright

Collin 01:31

and I go into our playroom area. It's kind of like a another dining area. And I flip on the light and I'm like, why is this light so incredibly dim and that's when I start to hear it feel the water hitting my feet I realize that there is water

01:51

pouring

Brandon 01:53

out of my light fixture spoilers I don't know if

01:58

you know this but that's not where water goes. It's nighttime

Collin 02:00

that's night. So I emit I become instant awake and race upstairs to find that the upstairs bathroom which I had used that 11 o'clock at night is now overflowing and the water had fortunately not gone towards the hallway where the carpet is no no just stayed in its corner and gone down through the holes and everything that are in my 100 year old home and had just decided that they were going to follow gravity

Brandon 02:28

down

Collin 02:31

and I got that shut off plunged and draining and then mopped up everything in the bathroom. Then erased downstairs and I just stood there like what do I

02:44

how do I what do you do? So I turned off the light but the light was turned off so I step back off and I'm this is not my first day

Brandon 03:00

so I said what I turned the light on so I could see better.

03:04

Okay, so this is gonna sound like

Collin 03:06

a weird complaint but it's it's it's when they remodeled the home they gave the downstairs very tall ceilings, I cannot touch that my ceilings I can I have to lift and Lilia above my head before we touch the two legs, they're very tall. That is very tall. This this column is a very tall man. So these are normally he complains about the opposite. It's everything is so small, I blacked my head on all this stuff.

Brandon 03:31

So So

Collin 03:32

now though, I have to run out and grab my massive a frame ladder, right and run it inside. And then I have the our light is a big dome light. And the it's just come flat is complete

Brandon 03:44

brim with water. And I'm like I have to get this down without dropping this losing control over it losing my balance and lower this down being electrocuted. getting electrocuted, you know. And so yeah, that's it, you missed the market and you missed the main thing.

Collin 04:02

Well, I was worried I was actually at that time were concerned about dropping this heavy piece of glass and having it hit the floor and shatter into 1000 pieces. And they'd be having water and glass and everything. So like when you clean the water, you'd probably just bring the glass with it. Yeah,

Brandon 04:18

today, but I'm also barefoot and I don't Okay.

Collin 04:21

I mean, I mean yes, but kidding. Anyway, that's so I mean, that's just you're always barefoot, so I just assume every story you tell you're barefoot like that's what happens now in my life. Like you could be story about like, running down a mountain after a duck. It'd be like, he's

04:37

barefoot. It's

Collin 04:38

just Yes. What what I'm not mountain duck running. I am lowering the big giant dome light and it's guy believing me.

04:45

Ozark Mountain duck running

Collin 04:52

duck racing is gonna be duck racing that's lowering the dome down and the little screw in the center. So I just put my finger on that in the water just shoots down to that center hole and hits the floor and going everywhere. And then I get that down. I set it aside and I stopped to get the plate because it's got that plate that secures to get that down so wrenches and screws and all sorts of stuff to get down and I'm pulling it down and I'm undoing wires. And I'm like, all of these wires are hot. I know they are.

Brandon 05:24

But now they're coated in water. Perfect, perfect insulator. One thing about water we all know it is. Yeah, it's the universal solvent. Oh wait, we said different things.

Collin 05:38

I get that all separated and I now so now I get that down the plates down.

Brandon 05:44

And now I'm like, okay, ah, now what?

Collin 05:49

So our downstairs are very, very old hardwood floors. They're not like nice new ones that tight fit grooves or whatever. So these workers are soaking up this water. And it all went into this massive rug that we have. So I have to roll up the rug get it outside, start going up Collins neighbors see him bringing out a rug in the middle of the night rolled up, throwing it in the yard throw the yard

06:17

personal and real awkward. After I had

Collin 06:24

anybody come downstairs at any point and witnessed this, no, wow, no, this we managed to do this like so stealthily that the next morning when she came downstairs at 7am. Yeah, I'm good at this. Like I'm imagining what Megan's face will look like. But I also in my mind imagining what it would have looked like if she would have come downstairs about 230 This ladder up in the dark, are frantically flipping the light switch, right? You be like No, no, no, no. That's exactly what would have happened right? And this is yet another reason why I am a huge proponent of headlamps. If listeners, listeners, this technology has been around for a decade or more like those easily accessible to people it was not beat without being cost prohibitive. Get a headlamp in your life, it saves you removing splinters, crawling through spaces, standing on a ladder at 2am in the morning with water rushing down all of your head and body as you don't like just get oh my gosh, it's just it's just wonderful. So I got that down and I have to headlamps are just amazing. I want you know the Boy Scouts but that was like one of my one of lots of major takeaways for Boy Scouts. One of them headlamps are lifesaver, right? So there you go. I get I get all this out. I get the floor mopped up, I get it all set. And then it's like, I don't like I'm not going to I was reading I was going on what else but like read it like like what do I do now? And if you read it guys, like, well, here's what people were like drill holes in your ceiling, cut, cut holes in your wall so that you can see where the water is you can trace the water paths. And I'm like, like, No, I know where it came from. This isn't like I'm so concerned about that. Um, I'm just going to I mean, because I was like, Okay, here's the thing, like it's just one time it's a one time this stuff happens all the time and mold doesn't grow and destroy and kill everybody in the house. Right? So like, and the plus here, okay, remember here plus is this is not a new home construction. There's this home leaks like a sieve. The outside air is instrumented in well ventilated, ventilated in every surface. I'm not all that worried

Brandon 08:47

out, just pull a dad and bust out your dehumidifiers. Right? Like set them everywhere. So and there's a dehumidifier in the ah, and then the next morning I peek the audio there.

Collin 09:01

I'll cut that back. I'll duck that audio later. But no, I was like then I went to bed and all freaked out about it. I was like I'm just gonna have to look for water stains on the ceiling. We'll put some kill down on it and we'll paint over it and it's gonna be fine. Whatever. And then I woke up the next morning and I was like hmm I didn't go check the basement to see if any water was and sure enough, I went downstairs in the basement and there was water on the floor of the basement that my friends is how much water and I think more importantly how leaky my entire house so then let me drain through so it didn't stay in the floor but that's good A and the floorboards so what I did was I did position a fan in the basement it's actually still running I just pointed it up at the floorboards where the water had entered. Try that area out Yeah, see, look, I got fans circulation. So and the other thing that I never quite quite appreciated is that. So basically what we're gonna do is I didn't contact insurance, we're just gonna be fine. We're just going to repaint, we're just going to make sure we never dry listeners just

10:12

selling towel. And

Collin 10:15

what we're gonna do is some things I didn't realize they don't appreciate because in the basement is where we have our dehumidifier running most of the time, right? Because that's where you need it most the time because that's where it settles and it's where the moisture is damp, whatever kind of basement so it's not for nothing. They make cheese in basements. Exactly right. Cheese basement basement cheese. Oh, yeah, let's I was gonna think it's showtime. Somebody somebody out there. That's your free, punk album name. Oh, you go. You can have that basement cheese slices,

10:48

I think yeah, that's because

Collin 10:50

a three three words, that's what you need is just how hot running a dehumidifier makes the room. Like, it has it raises its raise the temperature we're playing because I have little temperature sensors in all of our major rooms. And I can look and see the temperature in our playroom versus every other room. And it's like, three degrees warmer. Very warm in there, which is not based on my experience with humidity in Missouri summers, this is not the result I would have expected. I would.

11:31

Yeah, but yeah, but drying the air out you were

Collin 11:34

drying the air out. And it's if you just stand on the exhaust of the thing, it's just blows hot air out. It's just like a dryer we can just as which makes sense because it's drying air. And so it's just like a dryer because it's you know, drying.

Brandon 11:53

Like as you go from like our living room, into the playroom into the kitchen. It's it's a thermal, there's a thermocline weather front in

12:06

they're gonna rain in your house.

Collin 12:12

Which is fine, because what I need is I need that room to just be like hot and dry. And that was the thing that dad was like, just run your furnace. And I was like, okay, that's fine. Except we were having a weird like, temperature spike right now where it's like also raining outside. And it's 75 or 80 degrees during today. Yeah, it

12:31

was a weird day to day high. Really interesting. Bizarre.

Collin 12:34

And the low overnight was like 65 For us, which isn't enough to drop the temperature of my house very much. And so I can run my I was.

Brandon 12:46

I mean, Megan is not

Collin 12:48

going to complain if you turn the heater on No, but I will complain that negatively fine. She'll be like, Ah, this is the best thing that's ever happened. Do you want to you want to turn the heater on at 77 degrees? Okay,

Brandon 13:02

perfect. Let's make an ad in here.

Collin 13:07

So that was what she should be. Okay. That's how we started off Monday. And I was very thankful that I was actually home for this. Because I finally have my staff down in Springfield set up to the point where they don't need me there monitoring and shadowing or doing anything. All right. I just I can't imagine if I had not. If I had not been downstairs, Megan coming down at seven in the morning, and this had been going on for nine

13:39

hours. Like Oof. Ah, but if you wouldn't have been home, I wouldn't

Collin 13:49

have left toilet,

Brandon 13:50

you wouldn't have flush the toilet. So it's kind of my fault. Like I understand like, this is kinda like I touched it. I'm sure if somebody else would have flushed the toilet like the next day it would have happened then. Right? It's just you happen to be the last person that used it. So if you were gone, whoever would have used it instead would have been the tipping point I imagined right. So like, probably didn't really.

Collin 14:16

Who knows, but it was it was one of those and, and Monday like I was back I was gonna go teach in person for the first time in three weeks. And I just didn't have it in me. So I was like, I'm gonna do one more. One more day of zoom. Physically sorry, everybody, we're gonna have to take just a wee bit of a break.

Brandon 14:42

So just in your background, just put a picture of your soggy floor and be like this is why well, no, I just told everybody I was

Collin 14:50

and then Lillian was telling everybody about the waterfall we had in our in our playroom. class too, so she can already beat me to the punch line there but you

Brandon 15:00

yeah yeah so I was lesson from this

15:06

will be a light sleeper I guess.

Brandon 15:08

Yeah and I don't know what the lesson here is get a headlamp there's the lesson found oh my

Collin 15:15

god, I can't do these things and having the dehumidifier I will say like we generally run the dehumidifier pretty much nonstop throughout the summer in the basement

Brandon 15:28

and even a little bit into the winter

Collin 15:32

but I forgot just how annoying it is to have to replace the bucket because we have the kind that hasn't Oh yeah, don't think on the battery just unscrew that and attach a hose to it and have it go through my floor drain in the basement. Oh man. It just runs nonstop and I don't have to worry about it. Now I've got beeping every hour and a half at me. Yeah, samples get in here.

15:55

Funny story.

Brandon 15:56

So do you feel like Luke Skywalker once you're farming it up? What's your farming? Yeah,

Collin 16:02

yeah, I mean I am repurposing it and watering our flowers using the that to hey they go do other stuff with right we have we have mums on airports that are thirsty things so nice and topped off I did I did get our strawberry strawberries in the ground with hay on them so I gotta get them you know a little bit little map so

16:23

you know refusing to rain so

Brandon 16:25

oh my gosh, just yeah, just keeps those nice

Collin 16:29

today trying to have class thunder kids like oh, like guys just rejoice? It hasn't happened in like 70 years

16:39

Yeah, yeah. Yesterday was

Collin 16:40

our big day for rain. We

Brandon 16:42

it wasn't a big day today it just like happened.

Collin 16:46

It was there right it was a nice on the way to school. I could while I was watching the front coming towards us as we were driving.

16:53

Yes. I last Yes.

Collin 16:58

Oh also major update. Ah, I have the Honda back. Also on Maha to this long last long at long last.

Brandon 17:08

That long last the Honda has returned.

17:13

And I

Collin 17:16

this is when I went and test drove a couple of brand new Honda's

Brandon 17:22

not brand new, but like, you know, more modern ones are way newer than yours. Yeah. I keep calling mine 2006 It's actually 2005 I forget this the 2005 Pine doesn't really matter.

Collin 17:36

i i The more I have driven other cars the more I legitimately love this thing. I can't tell you. I have I drove several Honda Accords. And I'm going to be that person

Brandon 17:49

and say, I don't quite have enough. I'm fine. Oh my god.

Collin 17:57

I didn't think I was gonna be this person. I didn't. person I guess

18:05

it's because

Brandon 18:06

listeners you can't see it.

Collin 18:07

But I'm head butting my microphone right now just in anguish of this. I can't like i i I'm I got spoiled on it. These two big things. This thing is way overpowered. It's not it's not safe. Like I can spin the front tires on this thing in any weather condition. any weather condition. I just, it does not matter. Like you can you can spin the traction is awful. But it's a it's a three liter V six with a with a battery boost on it to fill in the gaps when the V six is not enough. This is what they thought of as a hybrid back then, okay, like this is where they were coming not really how hybrids work. That's what a turbocharger is for. So Colin really needs a 1994 Honda Civic

18:59

Turbo charge. That's what

Collin 19:01

pretty much I just I got it to sing and I like you know, I stomped on it and I was booed off and I was like oh yeah, that's right. That's why I love this thing so

19:14

much. It's just they took

Collin 19:17

the hybrid and they were like what can we do we need to get this via this three liter V six is definitely not enough for us. We don't know yet.

Brandon 19:26

Are you telling me in Collin that your 2005 Honda is faster and more furious than the current generation

Collin 19:38

this is exactly what I'm getting to I would this is exactly so I went from driving the I'm used to driving this three liter V six with the with the with the booths on there. So it developed something like 250 horsepower for a front wheel drive Ford or slant sedan, which is enough like that's a lot Um, and I did was test driving some other ones and this is their new Yeah, so yeah, so this 2005 develops 260 horsepower in this thing, which is a lot, okay. And we, I test drove the newer ones and these are all 1.5 liter four cylinder engines. And I, oh, you can feel it. And it's just, it's not exciting to drive. And again,

20:34

I never thought I was this person that's a little higher revs

Collin 20:37

in the forest gone, that's how four cylinders work, you just kind of rev them out. That's what you have to do this thing, you know, you just plant your foot and you just shoot off like a rocket. And I then I did test drive they do make a two liter four cylinder with a turbo in the sport model. And that's, that's a much better but I will say I also test drove so the last year that they put a 2000 and put a V six in and Honda Accord was 2017. I did test drive one of those and I was like, I this is what I like.

Brandon 21:14

Now I'm going to tell you a secret.

21:16

Okay? Here's a secret for you. It might

Brandon 21:23

be easier to find aftermarket engine parts for Honda than literally any other car that has ever been made in the history of the universe. So basically, all you need to do if you feeling froggy, just by Honda. And then if you do something as simple as slap a new air intake, all you have to do is bolt it on. You have 12 more horsepower and you're

Collin 21:51

just like boom died. That's all you got. It just it comes out of the box, you basically snap it on. Done. That's it like Honda's basically just like Lego it up, just pull it off and stuff they really do, especially the civics and I will say this, this whole gripe is is also couched in the fact that like, the Accord is a much larger body style now. And they use the same powerplant in many of the civics as they do the Accord. So it just feels a little bit underpowered. You know, I did drive so you don't know.

Brandon 22:26

You know, like, die. Yeah, right. That you know, that little pesky problem was like, dying in

22:34

a car crash. Yeah, you know, darn Honda for making you not die. So

Collin 22:39

it's, it's so infuriating. So I did, I did test drive some civics and obviously the smaller bodystyles a small engine, it, it makes a lot more sense. And it feels a lot more peppy. And so that is something that I read. Okay, but here's what

Brandon 22:55

you got to remember. So in the Civic, the smaller car with the still smaller engine, but it's more you make a difference?

Collin 23:06

Oh, yeah. And how that performs. So if you put three people in that civic, it now is a dog. Yeah. Right. And it doesn't move. Whereas the Accord because it's bigger and heavier already, your body weight adds only a small percentage into the car. And so it is unaffected by carrying people Yes.

Brandon 23:26

That's what you kind of remember he says, this is this is why I steer clear to the Civic because I'm sitting in there and then I'm like, you're gonna

Collin 23:32

you're being lied to. I has once you get a Megan and some children and their children how it's gonna go, or it's gonna go wait. That's the only thing to have like, oh, like the Civic like si or the Civic sport, like, those seem nice and peppy until you put other bodies in them. And then it's like, yeah, no, thanks. So this is again, why I'm going. If it were just me, like, the decisions are very different. But now I'm looking at I need space. I need a little bit of pep like, because again, if I'm putting four people in here, and I need to get up and go or accelerate, like, I can't just be doggone around.

24:05

So yeah, we have stuff but again,

Collin 24:08

your weight doesn't make a big as big of an effect. Because it's already bigger. So it's already heavier. So adding more weight is like

Brandon 24:18

whatever. Yannick just can't I found that myself that I

Collin 24:22

found myself looking at lead over discoveries and this entire

24:25

course. It always ends there.

Collin 24:28

They're so pretty even Oh my God. Oh, my guess. Yeah. And I'm just talking about the ones from like, 2004 like those. I just can't not love those. It's so bad. And you can find find some for like $3,000 now and I'm like, Colin, no, no, no, no, no.

Brandon 24:50

That's a big no,

Collin 24:51

that's a red flag. That's right there. That's what that is. That is a red flag. Luckily, today, Missouri is under a red flag warning because of all this Wind and colonization by $3,000 laid over No, no.

25:05

I was like, oh, but look at the pretty windows at the top Alpine. Oh, the double.

Collin 25:11

Anyway, that like how I like how on one hand your conversations like Will the engine is not up to spec and new turbo. I just feel like put the window is pretty.

25:23

Right? I'm I'm so conflicted. It's just you are because it's at the base of it. It's just like I

Collin 25:29

just need a sensible, like, humdrum boring old family sedan. And I couldn't quite do it with our last purchase because it wasn't a chord, but it was the weird hybrid model that nobody wanted. But I absolutely love now. And like with that was like, oh, let's get up. Ah, but you just said the word.

Brandon 25:50

Now, now, yes, right. So you are experiencing this problem, your perception of reality has been altered dramatically by the fact that you have spent so many years with this car

Collin 26:05

you've bonded with it is what you've done. And that you are trying to You're not just trying to replace a car column, you are trying to replace a bond that's that Dow and, and you cannot replace this bond

Brandon 26:19

in a 20 minute test drive. And the problem is, you're trying to know, and you'll never be able to. So either, you're just going to drive your Honda forever. Or you're gonna have to accept that it's time to forge a new bond. And you have to start back at zero, you know, and then you have to grow your love. From there. You can't start at like 100 where you are now you can't do it, you got to start at you know, build back up. This is important therapy.

Collin 26:59

When I first when we first got the Accord, um, all the things I'm talking about now that I really liked about it, we're not on my checklist that I know I was thinking you were like you were you were just talking about all the things that annoyed you. I recall this, I remember this happened then all these things annoyed you Oh, yeah. You're like, oh, this is lame. And I don't know. And, and now you're just like, I'm in love. It's my soulmate. And this is why I'm my father son, because

27:29

I have this relationship with this car. I can't let it go. And

Collin 27:33

yes, so I am trying to ground myself to get back with my checklist. Things that we need, like, what

27:41

is this movement? Do?

Collin 27:42

What does it serve? Tried to treat it more like a washing machine as opposed to like, yes. Upon, that's okay. It's okay. As long as you know it's a bond, and you give the new car a chance to grow the bond. And don't try to immediately bond with it in like five seconds. The problem is, is that I immediately bonded with the like almost $60,000 Tesla Model three. Okay, okay. All right. So maybe a middle ground, Vaughn. Because I was just like, oh my gosh, this checks all the boxes. It's wonderful. But I need to be like, Okay, remember that Tesla is owned by an insane person and be like, oh, yeah, right. Yeah. I don't know if I could support that. Again, I should never have driven that car. No, we should never have gotten it. But I was like, Oh, I would like to drive one of those at that point. So now I'm trying to find this middle ground. Again, I'm like, sensible, within budget meets the demands of like muscle. Because the other thing is, is we're going to probably have this next car for another seven years. It might have been Yeah, yeah, that's. And so trying to try to plan out a little bit of what am I needs now. And sure, we can always sell the car. But buying and selling cars is That's annoying. So I especially just have this for another seven to 10 years. So like, I can't think of everything. And that's not what's stopping me. It just goes, I know, I'm gonna need more space. And I really want dependability. But most that's what I need. And so those are kind of guiding a lot of these decisions as far as like, tried and trued which is why the lands of

29:17

this has never happened.

Collin 29:18

Exactly. This is why Land Rover is what happens. Now the question is you want reliability?

Brandon 29:25

That's not it. That's,

29:27

that's not the answer. Yes. So trying to put together

29:34

just, I just

Collin 29:36

get what really caught me off guard was how much of like, I guess it's just because over the years, I've just started driving increasingly faster. And how much like that because you can kind of do any Texas? Because I did it broke me and it was like, Oh, you're lacking 100 Yes, always. Yeah, I'll drive to Houston at 100 miles an hour. Yeah, why not? Just like That's what caught me off guard. I was so shocked by that. And I think that also is coming off the heels of like I went from that, like that tiny, like, very underpowered Corolla to back to my car and I was like, Oh, that's a difference like I can I can feel that difference.

30:17

And I'm trying to Yeah. Trying to find the feeling,

30:22

man, you know?

Brandon 30:26

So, yeah, still still in our shopping we did test drive a test drive recently. Oh no.

Collin 30:37

Oh no actually actually Okay, so I was looking at Land Rovers. And then I did test drive a Land Rover Discovery Sport.

Brandon 30:43

It's a us us. And it's like the same size as our jeep. It's weird.

Collin 30:51

And we test drove every test drove a while so test drive a full Grand Cherokee, because I was like, how much bigger does that feel than our Cherokee? Because I've actually never driven one and I was like, Oh, this feels huge. It is a boat, and annoyingly

Brandon 31:04

no more rear legroom than our Cherokee. No, that sounds that sounds about right. Right.

Collin 31:11

So that to where do they now Now importantly, where did they give you that leg room fries, which I don't really need? It's all in the cargo. It's all cargo space.

Brandon 31:19

Well, I mean, that's

Collin 31:21

useful as a family bios and stuff like we need to put more stuff back there. But it just was weird how I couldn't get even like a couple inches more.

Brandon 31:30

That is a weird way to move the seat back like two inches give something right

31:35

like and

Collin 31:36

so that you know, that's a midsize SUV and then we drove a compact SUV. It was like the same size like in the back like room. That was odd. And then

Brandon 31:43

we did test drive I took Megan on it is really weird. And we had like 15 minutes

Collin 31:48

left and I was like, I've got something that I really want to drive. So we went we test drove and one of those Jeep Wrangler Unlimited with the Ford horse. Oh my God, it was it was the Sahara edition, which is by the way, the trim level that I would get for many many reasons but that day nothing you know, it's like such not a daily car like it's, it's so hilariously awful. I was just I was shocked. And I had driven some of the late 90s, early 2000s. wranglers before and but those were the short ones and those just felt normal. The appropriate size. appropriate sized ones. Yeah, those felt different and they felt lively, but they thought they're so tiny. They feel like you're just gonna do donuts in like any second. Yes. This thing though, was just like much more of a boat. It felt just huge and

32:47

huge. It does look and I look ridiculous.

Brandon 32:50

That's the most like inappropriate car ever created

Collin 32:57

well as the fact that it has this one I think it would have would have felt different it would have if it would have had the cloth top but because it had the heart of the heart our top four door wrangler it just it feels so on. They look weird horrid, right and when I when I say listeners when I sorry any listeners

33:19

on this car, I apologize

Brandon 33:22

when I say it's inappropriate is I have never like Jeep is uh, basically designed to be an off road vehicle. Right?

33:33

That's what it's for to his job is this thing

Brandon 33:38

cannot go through a ditch. Like I don't know what I don't know what's for. Are you talking about cars have purposes and you need a purpose to drive? I have no idea what it's for.

Collin 33:50

I see them all there all over the place. Now. I know. I know many people that have them.

Brandon 33:55

They are all immaculately clean and and GP right. Many other Jeep owners like they'd never wash their car. Because it's like your Jeep Wrangler and you're like yeah, it's money. Good. Right whenever doc I drove through a field yesterday. Why? No one knows. But they do have the reveal yesterday. These things never seen them with like even us back

34:25

of dirt on them. Right ever at all.

Collin 34:29

It's so confusing. I don't understand.

34:33

And trying to find

Brandon 34:36

trying to find a stock version is almost impossible.

Collin 34:41

If it's used it is oh, no, everyone's put the stupid as we'll entire combination you could possibly imagine. And I can't stand that because I drove. I mean, I drove a 1991 Jeep Cherokee that was in line six with oversized tires. And it was so underpowered. It wasn't even funny like it was just and that was with a slightly modified Asians to it. And knowing that these people are putting huge tires, massive lifts, and not doing anything to the engines. It's like, what? What are you doing? And the same thing with trying to find like an unmodified Toyota Tacoma of like, I just want to just get straight from the factory. That's what I want. I don't want all this stuff. You can, they're almost impossible to find and drive and test. So it's like, I'm test driving this vehicle. And this one, thankfully, was actually standard, but I have driven other like, the Tacomas are, are exceptionally problematic. I know that the Jeep Wranglers are too but like, I drove it Tacoma. And it was the only use was used when that the house was like, heavily modified. It was like, well, now I'm just test driving the modification or even test driving the truck at this point. Like I can't tell you anything about it Tacoma could just tell you that this has ruined it. Whatever it's happened, this is this is worse in in my approximation. Hello, yes, sorry. Everything is fine. Nothing everyone will happen at all. Okay. Back to this.

36:06

What last Did you hear?

Collin 36:09

We were talking about the ugliest Jeep in the world. Oh, I was in the middle of saying something about it's very, it's annoying because the tire thing tires and wheels thing, right. So it's like a personality stamp. People want to like stamp it on their car. Because like, it's a weird thing where you want to buy the most popular car of the year. But you don't want it to look like everybody else's car. So you have to do something to it to make it like yeah,

Brandon 36:38

individualized. And it's annoying when it's like wheels and

Collin 36:41

tires. Because people just throw them on there. And they don't think about like what you said power or now your your gear ratios are all messed up, right and all this stuff, you can just put a sticker

Brandon 36:51

on your car, right? It's fine. Just put stickers on window, boom.

36:56

Personalize, it's better,

Collin 36:59

you can come off when you want to resell it to somebody else, right? Because if you put, you put like big giant wheels on your car, and all this stuff, like you don't have power now. Right? And your gearing is all messed up and it like eats up your rear differential. Right, because your gear ratios are all bad and like

Brandon 37:16

you're going, your speedometer is wrong. And like all this stuff, it's like a whole it's a whole mess of problems. Like because you wanted to put bigger wheels on your car. And so the next person that buys it, right you take sometimes you take the wheels off, and then you sell it and unsuspected didn't

37:34

know that you

37:35

have been ruining

Brandon 37:37

all the gears in

Collin 37:38

your car, the transmission and in the differential and everywhere. For all that time. They're just like, worn out because we've been working way too hard. Because the ratios have been

37:49

ineffective. That's what I've seen.

Collin 37:56

Yes, and it's, it's true. And again, try and find those unmodified ones and then you're just left with going out what it wasn't even as this like it's just a big mess. And so it was kind of shocked by it because again, I had these kinds of again, these these memories of like, the shorter ones and the buckets, they were older they were smaller too like they weren't hadn't been all puffed up and kind of bloated as the more modern ones are. And so it was just a Yeah, yeah, so if we just have those it's been weird to have your test driving week.

38:29

So yeah, I don't I don't recommend

Collin 38:33

them isn't work and the other ones either. So what's what's been what's been with you?

38:47

like nothing ever

Collin 38:48

happened.

38:50

So anyway, that's why I hate aftermarket wheels.

38:53

They really are terrible.

38:57

Yeah, it's good stuff. Yeah,

Brandon 39:03

this hole is out here.

Collin 39:06

Oh, no. Okay.

39:07

Did you do a speed test?

Brandon 39:09

No, I was afraid it's always real low anyway. So Oh,

Collin 39:15

well I will I do want to talk about us. Before I got we got sidetracked on how awful oversized tires on underpowered off road vehicles are. Was it because nobody does anything about the gearing or anything like that? Yeah, well, what was your unless you want to do something else? What was your main takeaway or what what did you think of the most recent

39:46

Grand Tour? Yeah,

Brandon 39:51

I was mostly okay. Right. He's mostly pretty good.

39:55

I didn't mind it.

Brandon 39:56

i That was pretty good. PSA I don't know, what are your thoughts before we talk more in detail? I, I was digging it right up

Collin 40:09

until spoilers, everybody. James May crashed.

40:13

Wow. So you weren't digging for very long.

Brandon 40:19

It had the same. It was had a similar feel of some of the other ones. And it

Collin 40:29

was it was bringing me in bringing me in, and then that happened. And then they didn't expect that to happen. So naturally, I'm sure they had to erase some scripts. But I think my biggest beef with it was in the, the Top Gear days, you knew they were scripted, but everything was so cheap that it didn't really feel as scripted. Like it was, it was it was kind of more on the nose. It was definitely a joke. But because I have so much money being thrown at this, um, they descriptiveness really comes out. And like the stage nests and things that were always staged before I know that, like, it just seems very apparent that they that they were staged. And it's starting to get

41:30

a little old.

Brandon 41:31

I'll say that. Yeah, thank you kind of you kind of nailed my thoughts there. Because like that, that's pretty much exactly it. Like the the way that they go about staging it. It's just like,

41:47

I don't know, it's just not there for me,

Brandon 41:52

right now. You know what I mean? Like, it's just off, there's something that feels off about it. I think I think you might be right about the money thing about just how much they play into it. Like you can tell sometimes they're leaning into the joke. Right? That's fine. I get it. But also like kind of ruins a bit of this sincerity, about the whole thing, which is what made I think

42:22

sort of what made the

Brandon 42:23

old stuff like really good. Was there it was this like, sincere undertone to things right like that. They were loving things, and they enjoyed things. And I feel like they're just bored. And I think that's why I'm not I mean, yeah,

Collin 42:39

yeah, you there are moments and I one thing I always look for is I look for to see if they have genuine laughs around each other when they're talking and and that those come through every now and then. But there are times I just like the the one that just gets me every single time is when and Top Gear. Clarkson has changed his Citroen into the giant high rise, and his driving down. And James May is unable to breathe. He is laughing

43:14

so hard.

Brandon 43:15

Yeah, height of dying.

Collin 43:17

He is dying, that. I look for that. Although I think waste what I've tried to do is going judging what you're you're putting your thumb on there is going is this? Is this? Is that? Are they bored? Or are they having issues? Are they concerned or anything? Yeah.

Brandon 43:35

Yeah, I think he was bored. Right. And so I feel like that comes across because like some of the ideas should be good. Right. hoeing a hot on skis. Should be humorous. Yeah. Right. But it

43:53

just kind of wasn't you know, like

Brandon 44:00

there should be slightly more actual rally racing in the episode about rally cars

44:08

where they only did like the they only

Brandon 44:09

did the one thing on the lake or whatever the very beginning kind of raced around some

Collin 44:17

but where was the where was the the race? A different a more modern one. Right? Like,

Brandon 44:27

yeah, there was like just just not

Collin 44:32

because that would have been the perfect time to say Mr. woman thinks that you are crazy to now only you know, only the choosing these early 2000s Because it was a weird premise to begin with of like who why? Why did you just pick the early 2000s era unless

Brandon 44:51

because that was the that was the last big like, World Rally Championship like explosion where like it for winning. It was like super popular with everybody. Yeah, a lot of people really liked it. And like, but you still, like, even now, it's hard to find in the US to watch. Like, it's

Collin 45:13

impossible. So, I think that might be why also because also because those cars are pretty

Brandon 45:22

available, because it did make like 12 billion of that. Oh, yeah. So like it in the, in the Top Gear era,

Collin 45:29

they would have been like, we think cars and this year are superior, right, obviously, a ridiculous premise. But like, they should have just come out and stated that because that would have played into the like, oh, here is a more modern one, or here's one from this, and that's why this is better, they're gonna race you and you can figure out you know, that you're wrong and beat the time. Like, like that. I was looking for that. And it wasn't there. I was also

Brandon 45:55

disappointed. Partially because I did watch rally racing in that time. And the they, like, I don't know why they did this.

46:08

But you the,

Brandon 46:11

the, the Audi thing just annoyed me. Right? The Audi S for the Clarkson EB was wrong car. Because if you're gonna have

46:24

to one Okay, we are recording.

Brandon 46:27

Alright, so the big problem is the Audi.

46:32

Right? Okay, what why? Because

Brandon 46:35

the Audi is not a car at a rally car. And it is for is not a rally car. Never was never competed the this and all. And so the fact that there is the super WR X, the Mitsubishi Evo seven, where is the Peugeot 206. That is the natural car

Collin 46:59

that fits in this slot. This is the other rest of this is the other car that was competitive during that time. Right? Yeah,

Brandon 47:05

the Porsche 206. It was a huge, huge thing. Right? So