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In an episode FULL of pro-tips such as; always check your microphone, use Grethers pastilles, and stop getting complicated door locks, the boys are on it! We share our interest in the new Grand Tour Episodes, Collin has a dreary rental car experience, and Brandon is going gull Tolkein. Get ready.

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SPEAKERS

Collin Funkhouser, Collin, Brandon

Collin Funkhouser  00:05

Welcome to Oh, brother, a podcast of three brothers. Trying to figure it all out with your hosts, Colin and Aaron. On this week's show. Go woot.

Brandon  00:19

Boy, oh boy. Sorry, sorry that was it. No, the thing came, right I was I was digging up was like, Oh, I'm just gonna take a quick drink of tea. Oh, nope, nope, nope, me real? Sure.

Collin  00:31

Sure. Yes, my numbers are all off.

Brandon  00:38

Er, I can hear you typing furiously. That's a new, that's a new exciting phenomenon generally happen?

Collin Funkhouser  00:46

Because when I record I'm recording in a remote location. So because I'm not I don't have it plugged into the XLR box, the interface that is what controls the gain and all that stuff. So now this is zoom, taking control over my microphone going. Oh, you sound good.

01:09

Your liar doing it wrong?

Collin  01:12

No, I accidentally negative I record hit record remotely for reasons. And I am like forgetting to mute myself and all this sort of stuff. I should be better than this.

Brandon  01:30

Well, you don't have a thing. And I can still hear your furious keystrokes. Just in case you're curious. So sorry. It's gonna be it's alright. I just wanted you to know that so that it didn't like

Collin  01:38

I think I'm gonna have to change. The progression is gonna have to be the medium background. Oh, typing. Wow. Typing is high. That's the suppress background noise. That's amazing. Can you hear me okay, now? Am I still quiet? My quiet

Brandon  01:54

a little bit. You. Okay, well, I'll try and

Collin Funkhouser  02:04

I'm practicing typing right now. Can you hear it? Absolutely.

Brandon  02:09

It sounds like you're typing on the microphone. It sounds like it just sounds like you're racking the microphone. It's so

Collin  02:14

far away. Oh my gosh. I've got a boot. I've got an arm. I got thing. Oh, the arm is falling. Oh no. Okay. Oh. Wondering why I was having to continue to adjust this because it was falling off the table. Ah,

02:36

that will do it. Okay, anytime. Well,

Collin  02:39

I will try and be more not beard.

02:45

type of quieter. What are you doing? I'm just kidding.

Brandon  02:50

Oh, hold on.

Collin  02:54

Hey, how does this sound?

Brandon  02:56

Oh my gosh, that's 12,000 times better. Just a second.

Collin  03:00

Can you hear me typing? Nope. Okay. Turns A

Collin Funkhouser  03:05

pro tip. Make sure zoom has selected the right microphone to record on Yeah.

Brandon  03:11

Are you recording with the laptop microphone?

Collin Funkhouser  03:12

I wasn't the recording. Ah ha. So quiet when I was doing my mic test. I was like, Man, this is this is not good.

Brandon  03:24

This is this is much better. This is what the listeners want. Ah. Also tones of Colin without the computer.

Collin  03:34

Because when I was testing it, I was like, Man, this has really echoey This is insane. Ah, well guess they go pro tip.

03:41

Sorry. It did sound like you were in a big room. Because it was picking up the sounds of a big room. So that

Collin  03:47

will be it was indeed

03:53

Yeah. Yes. So

Collin  03:59

where in the world is calling it today? Oh, I am at dad's.

Brandon  04:06

Ah. We're Hey. How's it so,

Collin  04:15

yeah, I've been in Springfield all week. It's been a week and a half. So, yeah. One of those those

04:28

weeks zero.

Collin Funkhouser  04:32

Yeah. Anybody wants to come work? I don't know. We'll just say full time. We'll offer that I think that's what will offer all right, and you go boom.

Collin  04:48

Oh, that's just bad. Sounds exciting. Yeah. I have some important news for you.

Brandon  04:55

I don't know if you know, because I didn't know until Yesterday

Collin  05:02

I was on, I was just doing something, and I don't keep opening the wrong thing on my phone. What is wrong with me? Why do I suck muscle memory? So like when I click in certain places, I want to open this thing. So like, other times I'm like, no, no, no, I want to open the new Grand Tour episode is out now. Do you know this? Oh my gosh, no surprise, sucka. It's out. I didn't know this. I was actually I was actually investigating if I could, if I was doing something else, and I don't know why this week, but I had a sudden urge to

Brandon  05:50

watch house. Right? I just wanted to do this.

Collin  05:55

And so I was looking to see and I discovered the houses on Amazon Prime. Okay, hashtag not sponsored by Okay, that's important. And so I opened it up and I was typing in the search bar. And then it was like, continue watching and I was like, that's an new. That's a new album thumbnail. Wait, wait,

06:13

what's

Brandon  06:14

that? So I just completely slipped by but the new episode, Scandi flick is out a whopping 900 minutes. Wow, for your driven. So that might have to be next week's topic. Just say

06:29

Okay.

06:33

Very good. I

Collin  06:35

did not know this. And so I I was like when Kyle I missed the announcement of this. Just sneak it in. Yeah, I have no idea how long it's been out. I don't really know.

Brandon  06:49

I just know that it is out. It's like, Well, alright, I'm not gonna watch until I tell Collin about it. But I'm just gonna keep watching episodes of House. But like I'm gonna

Collin Funkhouser  07:00

pay. No, I have not I have not seen or kept up with that at all.

Brandon  07:05

Nobody there.

Collin  07:08

Just a surprise thing.

Brandon  07:12

That is out. So surprise. It is out. And go. Here's your news. Your good news for the week. More Grand Tour is out now. For you to watch. Pay. Ha.

Collin Funkhouser  07:26

I am excited about this.

07:28

We've talked about that.

Brandon  07:31

of, of,

Collin  07:33

I guess how have what are your thoughts on the the grand tour over time?

Brandon  07:44

Hmm. Well, definitely like it more overtime.

Collin  07:49

Right. Like the first couple. Like, it's like everything else. Right? There's some episodes are like super good. And you can definitely watch them again. And again and again. Because I have and then there are other ones. It's like. Yeah, that's, yeah, that's bad, right? It's not bad. It's just like, I don't like it feels like they try too hard. You know, to me, like surely this like first season? Where it's like, no, we're going to try real hard and do other stuff. And it's like,

08:18

that's not really

Collin  08:22

cool. Right? Like, it's fine. So I actually like the new format of just like all roadtrip and things, right. Don't love. I mean, they love it either. The

Brandon  08:35

fact that it's like, one per year,

Collin  08:39

but you know, it's been rough last couple years, you know, trying to do that, right. Yeah, you know, so it's been right, that's, I'm I'm gonna hold that against him, but I like the longer format ones. I like the just the focus on the trips didn't Linus, because, you know, I never really cared that much about the test car laptimes from Top Gear,

Brandon  09:06

like, random, like,

Collin  09:10

random Audi review, like am I gonna buy an Audi ever in my life? No. Teacher for crying out loud. We're

Brandon  09:20

never gonna have like Audi money so that's not a thing that I care about like

Collin  09:27

these do come in handy like 10 to 15 years later when you

Brandon  09:32

I mean that's true. I guess when you're used car shopping and when you're calling and just calling up the dealership like you know be by up to 10 minutes and all like Jim Bob it the thing is like, alright, I'll just set the keys out for ya. I'm with somebody else. I'm just gonna lay the keys on the counter. You just

Collin Funkhouser  09:47

kind of whatever literally what happened last time. Yeah, literally what happened?

Brandon  09:54

He's just like, oh, you again

Collin  10:00

So that's my basic thoughts. There's a couple one of them, like some of them are again, there, there are better ones than others.

Brandon  10:06

Right. I think that's just factual on everything. But you know, I like him, because I always like specials

Collin  10:18

anyway, they're always the best part.

Brandon  10:22

And so I like the big longer specials, so it's fine. I like it. Yeah.

Collin  10:30

No, I agree. I agree. It's been. I think they kind of had to find their footing. And I think initially, I don't know, I think initially, they kind of steered way, far away from everything that could have missed B. I know, for a while they were trying to make sure that they stayed not in their old format, a because of, you know, liability reasons. But copyright reasons like, yeah, copyright reserved for they were not wanting to do that. So I think that kind of, yeah, we're so used to that old format. I'm pretty sure that took him a little while to be like, way, like, what are we doing kind of thing? But it was, I think, yeah, I think we've gone been it's been better.

Brandon  11:15

Yeah, I think definitely like that. Out of the I'm just I pulled the

Collin  11:19

list back up here. I was thinking about when did they start doing that? Was that season one? Only special start season four, right? Yeah. So out of the only specials, right from the newest one? Like season four, we have the let's see, my favorite one is probably we're going to rank these the four episodes. This is the unofficial official ranking of the season four episodes, I would probably say the least favorite is

Brandon  12:03

boat one, the Vietnam boat one, because that's weird.

Collin  12:09

pause on that. That one was really hard because it was it was too contrived for me. Yeah. And had legitimate boats and like done their usual with that. It could have been so good. But because Jeremy had like, the million dollar exact replica. You know, Katie? Yeah, this is too weird, right? Yeah, it was and then I would say the next best one would be

Brandon  12:42

the French car one. Right. And then the second

Collin  12:48

place would be the treasure T one the pirate one. And then the Scotland lockdown was my favorite one. I just like that one a lot. It was the funniest one. Because it was the most like chill the most like just like random. The old school cheap car ones. Like those ones have asked. Yes. Yep. Yep. Is that was that wait? Oh, yes. Yeah, that's the why the cars never took off the 70s cars. Right? Yeah, yeah. When that one was more true to form. But again, it was like, why, let's why was that one so good, huh? Because they had a lot of constraints on themselves.

13:30

Yeah, right. Like it's better.

Collin  13:34

It felt very much like a fan because it was like around Scotland and obviously places where they do a lot. You know, they know a lot of things. It's like it felt very bad. Like very. I don't know how to describe that. But very familiar, I guess. And

Brandon  13:49

in calming, whatever. Yeah, it was less. It was less like zany. Yes. You know what I mean, when it gets to zany, I'm kind of like it's a little less. I know. I don't like zaniness as

Collin  14:04

much. So, you know. But I mean, even so saying that I really liked the beach buggy when they did an Africa in the movie.

14:17

Wasn't that their first one?

Brandon  14:20

The first season right? That was the first big trip because they did like a trip a season after that. And I would say that one or the Mongolia one.

Collin  14:31

That right that one was gored that's probably like the best one ever. Yeah, that one was

Brandon  14:38

really like really like that.

Collin  14:41

And I'm thinking like best that's like the best one ever, ever. Really? I think it's definitely top this top. It's one of the top ever ever ones.

Brandon  14:52

I like that one a lot. It's

Collin  14:54

Is it better than the Vietnam motorcycle one?

14:59

No, bye It's

Collin  15:01

or Botswana one the very first Botswana one I really like. But I think those are my top two of all time. But I think the Mongolia one might be number three. Yeah, that was just barely

Brandon  15:15

edging out the Columbia one where they go through the mountain paths of death with I want to get to you, but I think I think Mongolia is just

Collin  15:26

slightly beats that one. That's fair. That's just like don't just edges it Nix it at the line, if you will. But that one just had, like, very simple, very simple premise. Very, you know, as ridiculous as it is.

15:41

Yeah, right. It

Collin  15:42

was just like, drive out. Boom, done. Right. Like it was good. So I think that's that, like top three all times is that one sounds really good. That's for sure. Yeah, the boat one in season four could have been so good. But it just didn't, just didn't land was made me very sad.

Brandon  16:04

Yeah, me too. Because some of the

Collin  16:07

other boat ones have been hilarious. Like when they made the cars into boats. Both times. Both times. Great.

Collin Funkhouser  16:13

Third time where they tried to cross the channel. Yeah, that was great.

Brandon  16:17

That well.

Collin  16:22

That's what I was hoping that they would do, but instead

Brandon  16:24

not so much. Yeah. Or the end of the Vietnam one. Were

Collin  16:30

they the first the motorcycle one where they turned their motorcycles into, like some really weird things to go into the bay. That was, uh huh. It was odd. But like, it was like, that was like, do a thing. Right. And I was like, Yes, that's what they don't do enough of Q the work music. But yeah, I think that's right. Do

Collin Funkhouser  16:51

we'll see. Here's the thing that you do, but because they have so they don't do it like they don't it does. It's not real. Yeah.

Collin  16:57

It's like, oh, here's this Yeah, like piratey treasure one, where they're like, oh, look, here's my Bentley with all the stuff like you. Come on now. That's not like Yes.

Brandon  17:12

So, yeah, it's missing a little something. But I like the specials. Pretty good. So excuse me. What's his wreck to this week, like, just completely destroyed? Because we stayed we had a big, he was tired. This weekend was great. I like a basketball game. I saved the basketball game on Tuesday. This that our, our school schedule, like flops around, it's like one year, we have like 6000 home games. And then the next year we have like, three, right? And

Collin  17:52

then so like next year, there'll be like a billion home. You know what I mean? Cuz they they do this, like move around where they playing stuff? Yeah. So this year, we're on the three home game one. So I had to go to one. Right. So with HUD Tuesday, sure. And

18:09

this year,

Collin  18:10

for reasons that are not quite clear to me.

Brandon  18:15

The sixth grade

Collin  18:18

is a lot. Previously it was fifth and sixth grade basketball.

Brandon  18:24

Right. Okay, now, it's 678. Basketball. Why did this happen? Right. I don't know why they decided to do this.

Collin  18:38

And but so like in the spring, it's gonna be fourth and fifth grade basketball. Can you imagine anything worse and fourth graders playing basketball. You know how bad that's gonna be. Like watching fifth graders play basketball is bad enough. Fourth graders.

18:54

Like you don't understand

Brandon  18:55

how big how quickly children age until you watch a fourth grader or a fifth grader play basketball versus sixth grader play basketball is ridiculous.

Collin  19:10

Right. And this week, I got to see the sixth graders play back because they do like six they do so they this year they did girls A B team. And boys a B teams are for basketball games on Tuesday.

Brandon  19:23

Why

19:25

would you do that? Like fun? No, not fun. They started at five and they got over it we left at like 920

19:36

and they weren't done with the

19:38

last one. Oh, no.

Collin  19:41

We're like alright, we'll do like halftime we're like Alright dudes. I'm starving to death. I need like Taco Bell immediately. So we're gonna go I can't function anymore. Yeah. Me in. So, like, what are the I mean, what I mean, what did you say what the x affectations were for you and your time there? While you mean, like, you have to go to these or no, but the kids are like, Come watch this. Come on. I usually go to one, right, I usually go to one prayer thing. But this this this week, since there aren't too many to choose from sure I went to this one this week. So we I cheered my brains out because the A girls team, who is mostly the kids I had last year. The game was like, super close the whole time. It was like a two point game up until the end. So it was pretty intense. So I have this condition where I cannot be quiet at a basketball game. Yes, this is due to my history of being in the pep band, I must cheer very loudly at all times. So I sat with the student section, because a lot of the parents don't appreciate this quality that I have. They're sort of stare at me. Like I'm an insane person. I sat with the kids. Because I'm old now I sat with the kids on the bleachers. So that

21:14

hurt. And that was my gosh,

Brandon  21:19

set the bleachers were like three hours. Sunday say my back was like,

Collin  21:22

Why? Why do you hate us? Why did you do that? Oh, my vertebrae were like, what's wrong with you?

21:30

You can't do that anymore. You idiot.

Brandon  21:34

I sat over there cheering very loudly. They I was proud of them. I told him I was like, Oh, you guys appear to be using your powers for good. Because they were cheering like really loud and stuff. So it's fun. But my voice was like wrecked. And then. So that was good. It was good, though, that all the beat teams lost. And I think the eight teams won. So you know how it is?

Collin  21:54

Fair. Fair. All right. It was fun. It was good time, solid people. They were glad that we were there to cheer for them. So that's important, I guess. And then. So that was that in the Wednesday.

Brandon  22:05

We had a like an

Collin  22:10

induction ceremony for this new school program that we have called Jag. So it's like the first year of this. And they had like the dinner where they induct like all the officers and all the members and stuff. And then like, have a little speech and the principal talked and like the kids through the whole thing and everything. So we went into that and we stayed there for a long time talking to everybody. So I

22:33

was like that's what I was doing on Wednesday.

Brandon  22:39

Right? So it was very exhausting. Staying at school that late, multiple nights.

22:49

Yeah,

Collin  22:50

but thankfully you have your trusty. Give a throat lozenge that you'd like to use audio.

Brandon  22:56

Luckily, you have some grafters past Dilys hashtag, not sponsored.

Collin  23:02

Very soothing and lovely. It's really nice. Plus, my allergies just will not go away. It's really annoying. I don't like it at all. So it's been a double whammy, but triple whammy. Alright, it's been fun week is good. So Jackson is really cool, because I got to talk to so much people because I was just sitting in my room, like waiting, I did a bunch of work. And then I just like

Brandon  23:25

sitting my classroom reading. And people would just like, come by and speak to me. It was fine. It's kind of cool to get talks with his kids. The jag thing is like, it's called, like jobs for American graduates. And so the program was all about like, life and career building skills. So like, how to do job interviews, and like, how to talk to people and

Collin  23:47

like planning and responsibility stuff and budgeting and all these things, right? So it's like a very, like, big rounded programming like anybody can be in, right. It's not just for like,

Brandon  24:00

it's not just for kids that are going into the workforce, or it's not just for kids that are going to go to college or whatever. It's like literally anybody can be in this because I do a lot of like career exploration stuff. Oh, nice. So it's all about like, well, what career Do you want to do? Okay, this is these are the steps that you need to take to do that. No matter what it is, they talk about what you need, they do this, they do that they like, do all these things to kind of get you on that path. So I talked to a bunch of the kids and it was pretty cool. Talking about what they're trying to do some of the seniors right, we talked to them a little bit. And then one of the some of the younger kids, they were just talking about how they liked the program and everything. So that's pretty cool. Pretty fun times. Boy, that was exhausting.

Collin  24:48

So what was Did

Collin Funkhouser  24:50

you did you say what your role was in that? Are you just overseeing and why this

Brandon  24:53

was invited by the person invited to the thing. The kids invited the bunch of the staff members,

Collin  24:57

and so we just went to support them. Like yeah, go. Go, whoo, clap. Clapping Yes, I didn't, my role was to sit and clap and clap swore. That was pretty much it. That was it and I was just talking to him just about stuff here and there, you know, when they came, they come sit down or go walk around. So pretty good.

25:21

Pretty good times.

25:24

My friend runs the program

Collin Funkhouser  25:31

Yeah, I think those kinds of programs are really, really important. It's one of those things that like, sometimes in life, knowing what you don't like is more as a I think sometimes easier than fighting. What you do.

Collin  25:44

Yeah. Right. When, you know, you have this, like, perception of like,

25:50

amen.

Collin  25:51

I'm graduating high school, everything's gonna be great. I mean, you graduate high school, and you Oh, now do now.

Brandon  25:59

Right. So like, just having like, some idea of what that is, is gonna be very helpful. I think so. Cuz that's always like, yeah, I don't have to listen to anybody. I can do whatever I want.

26:17

And then you're like,

26:21

boy, what do I do

Collin  26:23

with all that stuff? Yeah, like,

Brandon  26:28

Ah, dang it. I was relying on these people telling me what to do. And I don't know what to do. And so now having has problem because i don't

Collin  26:39

know i We sweetly get some people that we get, we get some times where people are just out of high school, and they're gonna take a gap year or to try to figure out what they're doing and they're applying to this job. And I'll just have conversations with him and be like, so it's weird not having deadlines for assignments, isn't it?

Collin Funkhouser  27:03

I don't know how to structure my days.

Collin  27:08

Because you're so used to living in a world of like, of quarters, and semesters and years and yeah, breaks and writing deadlines and tests, and exams and right in finals like, your world is ruled by deadlines reflexively. And then you go out. And it's not like yeah, working is. It's not like this. Winter Break. Like what like that doesn't even make, like, you don't have any of those anchor points that you've lived less

Brandon  27:42

you become a teacher. You're like, I'm never gonna be I'm here every day. Whoopsie daisy, how did this happen?

Collin  27:50

I have questions. Yeah. And then you just like, oh, like what do I how I'm unmoored. Now, from my time that I've been Yeah, graded me for the last 12 years. And if you go to college, the last, you know, 16 years, 17 years, and then it's all gone.

28:10

Yes, to just adrift at sea.

28:13

No. Land inside? Oh, no.

Collin  28:17

But I do think it is important to take some time and go, Okay, I've got some knowledge, right, I've got some of this experience. Let me go and actually physically do something, in turn shadow, go get a part time job doing just random things, to figure out what I like what I actually don't like, and even then, you know, you don't you can't experience everything. So, boy, yeah, but I think it's important to go. Okay. Is is is is college, appropriate, for me, is a technical program appropriate for me, is an internship appropriate for me, and really have those more life planning type of aspects more so like when when we were going through school, I think it was just more like, it was kind of college planning. Like, if you're going to go to college, here's what you do. And if you're not

Brandon  29:08

cool, like I,

Collin  29:09

I didn't, I didn't really experience much of anything beyond like, here's, here's the steps to go to college. Go talk to the counselor. And then

Brandon  29:19

what else like if

Collin  29:20

you experience more than me, because our our counselor was not useful at all.

Brandon  29:27

It was just super unhelpful coach, Greg's was not

Collin  29:31

useful a counseling, right? So I just like I was the only time I would have the counselor was like, hey, I need you to send my transcript here. And they're like, Okay,

Brandon  29:42

that was it. We had no like,

Collin  29:44

Yeah, well, at least I don't, at least at least I don't remember. I've been there could have been meetings about this, right? But I don't recall them. At this point in my life. I'm gonna say that I'm gonna put this asterisk on here and put this big asterisk there. He says, I don't remember doing.

Brandon  30:04

So they were either not present or so unimpressive that I do not recall them in slightest. Granted, that was a very long time ago at this point that was basically 20 years ago. Ouch, that hurts. Like?

30:22

Yeah, take that. That's.

Collin  30:26

Yeah, but it is I actually will be this will be 20 years this year. Right. Yeah. You know, yeah, probably. But I'm not going to do that. Why? I didn't get I didn't get we had a we had a 10. Year. And maybe it was like, we did too. I was like, No.

Brandon  30:45

I'm doing. I want to do that. Yeah, no, no way.

Collin  30:53

That is more important than ever of going. Let's do some life planning, as opposed to just thinking about and like really thinking about skill sets and knowledge needed, as opposed to just Well, everyone obviously needs to go to college, because everyone doesn't, right. That's a lie that I think has been, has been sold time and time again, or you have.

Brandon  31:18

But I think it's also it's, it's important not to go too far the other way. And like, just I think the important sentence is everyone could go to college. Oh, yeah.

Collin  31:32

But I think that's important, I think. Because yeah, could if you want to know, not should or needs it not have to not need to,

Brandon  31:40

but you could go. Yeah, right. It's a possibility. I mean, I think that's the important thing. Because like, Yes, I have heard people talk about like, because yeah, whenever I was young, I do remember like, that's how it was just like college college college concert. That's all they were talking about. Yeah. And like, you know, this is this day and age. It's not really, you know, it's not always necessary. But I don't like it when people go the other way and say nobody needs call it that's also not true.

Collin  32:11

No, I would like my doctor to have gone to college.

32:15

Yeah, right. There are

Collin  32:20

things about college that are good, right? There's very negative stereotypes about like, certain parts of college that are, unfortunately, glorified and true in some cases, but not others. Right. So like, there are like, there are these, there are people that swing that the hardcore other way and say, no, no one needs to go

Brandon  32:40

ever, then that's not helpful. Because it does benefit people. Right? Like,

Collin  32:48

it does us does, like it's how it works. So there's not a dues everybody needs to know, when should ever should it be available to everyone to choose if they wish?

Brandon  32:59

Yes. Right. And then it's fine,

Collin  33:04

because you choose and you do whatever, but like, you need to be you have to be the person to choose that. That's I think that's the important key like, yeah, and I think that part of that I think starts with equipping the student with being able to ask good questions of whether they need to, or not, right, yeah, that's that. That's what that's what all the equipping needs to do. Because too often, I think we jump into the Oh, and here's how you apply. And here's how you practice for the test. And here's how you do this. And here's what this looks like. And here's what the financials look like, without stopping and going. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, yeah. Do I need to say, Yeah, that's true. But I think you should also be about you should be honest about what happened, like what it looks like when you just jump into the workforce. Right? That needs to be an honest discussion, as well, as somebody who spent several years in a factory setting. There comes a certain point where, like, when you're in like a team, that looks great, right? Because the money that you're making is stupid. Yeah, right. For per 18, it's, it's the most money I've ever seen in your life, right? Those paychecks you get are huge.

Brandon  34:19

Right? But also, a lot of those positions. That's all you're ever going to do. Mm hmm. Right. That's kind of the ceiling.

Collin  34:33

Now, there are some things there are some like you can move up a little bit, but there is a there is a ceiling to that to what the company will let you do if you just started working there, right? Because all upper management all has degrees, all of them, right. So it's not like a middle management, like lion boss. You know, line boss is just the dude that's worked there for 30 years. Right? But that's the ceiling for you. That's it. Right? So it's cool and it sounds good. But you also need to be prepared like, this is the this is it you better like this job because that's it. But there's lots of sideways mobility, you can go to other factories and get other jobs and do other things. You know, but like

Brandon  35:22

as far as Upward Bound NIS like, you're kinda, you're limited. You know what I mean? And for some people, that's totally fine. Like, they don't care. You go. I mean, it sounds appealing sometimes. Right? Like, you just go. You work. When it's time off, you go home, that's it. You literally don't have to worry about anything else. Ever. Because it's not your problem.

Collin  35:45

You know what I mean? Exactly, it's very liberating about this, this aspect of life. Because like, yeah, I just go, I do my job,

Brandon  35:52

I go home. Done, nailed it. Right. But, like, be honest

Collin  36:02

about that. And what that means for

Brandon  36:04

when you're like, you know, 35 and have like, three kids like, Is that is that number still good?

Collin  36:12

Is that like is are you still gonna be able to do these things and you don't mean like so. These explorations, these career explorations, I think are important like there are so many jobs out there there's so many like, there is like literally 1000s of jobs that did not exist when I graduated high school. Now, we I mean, so like, taking the time to have time to explore these avenues just kind of think about like all these different prospects is I think it's really cool and important to do that. Because you can really kind of

Brandon  36:47

you know, take more

Collin  36:48

time and just be like, Oh, no, I need a job. Oh, here go blah, right and then just be working at this place just because they hired you right, like you know, it's I think it's I think it's good I think it's a good thing to be thinking about and talking about so

Brandon  37:10

I think it's cool. I'm kind of excited to see how it goes. See what the kids what happens with some of them I think it'd be good stuff.

Collin  37:18

Yeah. Report back.

Brandon  37:22

Yes, William.

Collin  37:33

Well, the Honda is supposed to be fixed right now. Supposed to be supposed to be Dacre badly for well, they claim it is been cleaned and rent the carwash, I think, and it is sitting I sprayed with the hose. It's just Yeah, or spin on it probably. With their with a brillo pad. Yes. It is sitting waiting for me to pick up. So hopefully we're Hey, on Monday in a couple days now I'll be able to swap out the cars and apologize profusely for the almost 7000 miles I've put on the rental car. And yeah, it's bad. It's look like Oh, boy. Well, you know, it's gonna be a lot. So wow. That's been real fun.

Brandon  38:41

You are your father son. Look at this. I just putting millions of miles on automobiles. Forever.

Collin  38:49

It's like, and I was like, I called them multiple times as like, look, it's saying I need an oil change. And they're like, It's fine. Don't worry about it. And I was like, No, you gotta stay on like, it's saying I need oil change. Can I go drop this off somewhere? Can I switch? And they're like, no, just keep driving it. I'm like,

Brandon  39:06

Okay,

Collin  39:07

so for all you people out there who get you know, like the really good deals on the rental cars that are being sold with like super low mileage. Just know

39:15

that they'd never changed the oil. That's the sticker

Collin  39:19

just for context of the sticker the window sticker on this car reads to change the oil at 15,000 miles. The window sticker. Guess how many miles have my car has on it right

39:32

now? Wanting to

Collin  39:37

know 41,000 Oh my gosh. Now, I

Collin Funkhouser  39:46

I obviously did not get it with that. I picked up the car with 34,000 miles on it. And it was the day I picked it up. It said maintenance required. See dealer okay, it's all My gosh. It said that for over a month, every time, it says that I called them the first day. And I was like, Look, I didn't even leave the lot. I've walked back in and I said, I need you to come look at this. And they're like, Oh, it's fine. It probably just didn't get reset. And I was like, okay, so every day, every time I start my car, it says, maintenance required. See, dealer, a little check engine light is now on. And I look up and I see that the last sticker on it from 15,000.

40:28

So like, you remember, like, check the oil, just like new

40:35

oil in here. Also, they

Collin  40:36

didn't give me floor mats. And I don't know if you know this. That's weird. So So where my heel is, has actually worn a spot into the carpet. Because I don't have a floor mat. So it's

Collin Funkhouser  40:54

so my heel has actually been wearing a spot into and through the carpet. So

Collin  40:59

this has not gotten at all This poses a question. What happened with the previous renter that rendered the floor mats

41:10

unusable? Yeah. Here's, here's Ed's

41:13

real question. Now, what did they do to them? Here's what I

Collin  41:16

think legitimately happened. They were they were flipping this around so fast, to get it back out to rent, that they didn't put

41:24

them in. I mean, perhaps

Collin  41:27

that's possible through peering tea, or something so appalling happened, that they just threw them away. Like, me, I'm like, Well, this is not. So anyway, this is we're gonna see what happens when I return this because I'm not too happy. Oh, and here's the other thing. Okay, so this happened? Oh, yes. happened last week. Friday, I called the repair. And I'm like, Hey, so two weeks ago, I called and I was like, hey, so here's what's going on. Um, I'm just checking. I can't I just call them and I was like, I've been checking in with him going, Look, I've got to figure out, am I extending this my rental? Am I not extending the rental? I just had to do, right. I'm not calling to pester you. But I am renting this car now. And I'm paying for it out of pocket. And they were like, Oh, it's fine. Look, we got the car, we got the the part in, it's going to be fine. Don't worry about it. And

Brandon  42:29

get don't worry about it as you're still paying the fee for using the car. Keep it as long as you want. So then movie, loser

Collin  42:40

calling the calling the repair company saying like, Hey, how's it going? I need to know if I need to extend this another week or blah, blah, blah. And they're like, yeah, we've got a part coming in. It's gonna be fine. Yeah, it should be another day. And then the part came in, and then I called them the next day, because it was one of the things I'm like, yeah, we'll call you tomorrow. And they don't call you. Nobody ever calls you, listeners, pro tip. Anytime a company says we will call you step one, or get the person's name. And step two, they're lying. Call them back tomorrow, because they will not have called you it just every single time.

43:13

Unless, of course, it's Collins petsitting COVID. Obviously, they'll call you back.

Collin  43:17

You don't have to ask us to call you. But yeah, we just do. I just do. Seriously, people call and I will call the back. And I'll say hi, I'm sorry for missing a phone call from another How can I help you? And they're like, anyway, call back the next day. And they were like, Hey, so the park came in. It's a beautiful part. But it's the wrong part. It's

Collin Funkhouser  43:39

perfect in every single way. Except we ordered, separated doesn't fit. If you drove a different vehicle, it would be wonderful. But as of

Collin  43:50

then they said, hey, you know what? We'll send an extension over to the rental company, and we'll start paying your bills since we mess this up. And I went, Okay, when does that kind of start? And they're like, whoa, today, and I said, because they said Wilson will send over and request an extension on your insurance. And we will foot the bill for after that. And I said, Cool. Insurance ran out a week ago, and I've been paying this by myself. And they've there's a long pause. And they were

Brandon  44:25

like, hold on.

Collin  44:29

Back and they're like, yeah, yeah, it's fine. We'll send over an extension and everything will be okay. And I went, do I need to do anything? They said no. Okay. So then I called the rental company, the rental car company the following day, because I figured give it a day to let everything like matriculate through the system and yeah, called and they were like, hey, yeah, we haven't gotten from them. And I went it, really? And they said, Yeah, also, here's the thing. They've they, the repair company, have been doing this a lot lately. And we haven't received any payment for the rentals. And our manager is not wanting us to do this anymore.

Brandon  45:23

But let me talk to him.

Collin  45:26

And I was like, I appreciate that very much, because I cannot give this back to you.

Collin Funkhouser  45:35

Yeah, very much stuck in Springfield right now running a company. Because whatever.

Collin  45:41

And so he came on, he was like, okay, because they feel like it's going to be because they know the new part is on the way, we will extend it. But if they did not have like a set in the date of like, this is going to be done. Because I guess a lot of people are just like, we're in rental. And the parts are just ordered for whoever knows how long right? A lot of people have position right now. So then I was like, sweet, Cool, thanks. I appreciate that very much. And we need to talk about the hole in the carpet that I'm rubbing through with my Bye Bye, have a good day tape on I called the coalition company. And I was like, Hey, I just need you to be aware that I said, this is not me. I'm not angry. I'm not in this at all. This is between I'm angry and the rental people. They you have not been paying your bills, and is impacting my and other people's ability to get extensions on the cars that we need, because you have things that you were messing up either incorrect orders or whatever. And so I need you to know that your relationship with the rental company is not very good right now. And they're the only rental company in town. And she was like,

46:56

Oh, well,

Collin  46:57

I mean, we got you we're gonna pay for it. And I was like, I lies. I was like, I was like, Look, you can tell me that. But you need to be calling the other end. Look, I know all you just you're, you know, you're you're way down on the totem pole. You're not paying the bills here. I understand that. But you need to run something up your flagpole real fast here, because very soon they're going to start cutting you off from this ability that you think you you have. And you need to make sure you're talking with your finance department and your your your your money people that you're actually cleared to do this because I don't know if they're approving anything or not. And I was like, again, I'm I'm not in this game. It's between you two to fight this out. I'm just wanting to let you know before they just put the ban hammer on

Brandon  47:49

Israel. You I mean, you say you're not in this game, but also like I'm not paying for this car anymore losers you're doing it. So I'm in this game to some extent because I was sick and tired of paying for this because you're jacking around. So let's get straight on the road here.

Collin Funkhouser  48:03

From like, more of a neutral territory of just like letting them know like, hey, this other company is kind of talking smack about you because you're not holding up your end of the bargain. And I'd hate for this to go down south because there are going to be a lot of people impacted by this. So anyway, I got it got busy, including

Brandon  48:22

myself. Exactly. Sure. Chief among them me

Collin Funkhouser  48:26

a little selfishly Marois, but just like, like I used to.

Collin  48:32

Come on people, let's just do this. And I understand it's very easy. It's very, it's very easy for the collision. Arm, it's a big dealership, right? This dealership runs a lot of these different things. So it's very easy for the for the, for the collision and repair arm of the of the company to make these promises. And then they kind of move through their internal system before they wind up with somebody who's rubber stamping them or not. Yeah, but and then it moves back through the system. So it's very easy for them to say yes, oh, that's fine. But if somebody over on the on the left hand is not approving or frustrated that they're approving, or they have a longer process to go through to get these approved by upper upper upper management, and they're communicating that back down to the right hand. It's a major problem. Yeah, and this happens at school. This is what I talked about when I'm like,

Brandon  49:29

you know,

Collin  49:31

always just,

Brandon  49:33

you know, whenever I need to rely on somebody else, that's when things start going south, right. That's when that's when it's bad, because they are not listening or doing things because they're ridiculous people.

Collin  49:49

And in some of those systems, you know, they're not. They weren't designed for a lot of those rapid back and forth or re Your time kind of adjustment. And I understand that and I get that. It's just those systems have to be nimble enough to change in that in that moment, because it sounds like they may have been using the collision company may have been using Isik collision company. They don't go out they don't manufacture collisions they pair anyway, that sounded weird. Allegedly. Chaos company, they,

50:25

yes. They,

50:28

it sounds like Mad Max like,

Collin  50:30

exactly, just driving around. Sounds like they may have been using a process that was designed for like very low volume and like one offs kind of thing. But because of all the back orders, and because of all the chaos and wrong shipments and whatever. They have been using this process a lot more. But it was never designed out

Brandon  50:52

until that bore, they've been using the they came up with the process like 12 years ago. More than they just like,

50:58

haven't they just like me? It's fine. Yeah. And like,

51:02

never do anything else with it. Like, just like,

Collin  51:06

they just never looked at it again. Because they, why would we ever need to extend 17 cars at the same time that that will never happen. And so now they've extended all this stuff. And very likely, that was never budgeted in for that program, or never taken a second glance and how they approve that volume of money internally. Who knows the number of kinks or the it just gets thrown to a paper shredder and they go yeah, whatever. That's not real.

Brandon  51:37

Yeah, right. Like, what like what gets trimmed here and shaved there, the shortcut this and blah, blah, blah. Like, you

Collin Funkhouser  51:46

know, that process was actually deprecated, like, six years ago, but they never told the collision repair center.

51:55

Right, like, oh,

Collin Funkhouser  51:57

and and you know, Deb in the in the department was the one who processed that, but she's it all vanished and she retired. Yeah, she retired, right, like, oh, no, just don't all these paperwork just sitting in her little mailbox. In the main office. You're like, oh, no, yeah.

Collin  52:16

I haven't the school a lot when they when somebody quits, or like, retires or does something or changes jobs. And they'll be like, well, who doesn't know?

Brandon  52:23

Like, I don't know.

Collin  52:26

You're the boss. You're supposed to come up with that plan. But you just didn't think about that. I guess. You didn't. Like why? It's hard. I mean, I can't imagine trying to account for all of the little things that those kinds of positions do or have been globbed on and were never rewritten into their job description before they left. Because a lot of those people who have been in their positions for 2030 years have just very slowly Okay, hold on. I need to take a football sorry.

Collin Funkhouser  53:11

listeners out there. Stop getting ridiculously complicated door locks. Oh my gosh.

53:21

It's like a puzzle box.

Collin  53:22

Right? Oh my gosh. I Oh, man is a man. You know, the worst door lock ever would be.

Brandon  53:31

You remember those little,

Collin  53:36

like three by three plastic slidy puzzles.

Brandon  53:42

Wow, that should be the door

Collin  53:43

lock. You never get in your house ever. Can't do it? No. So most people have just a plain old door lock with a key, right? Perfect. Easy, easy peasy. Um, other times, they have a keypad with like physical buttons that you pass in. Like, to my house. I don't have physical buttons. But it's it's like it's gonna be hard to describe but they're it's a it's a keypad, but you press into them. You know, it's kind of like that soft texture where you just push into Yeah, it was supposed to be and it lights up in the back. I hate hate screens on door locks. Hate screens on door locks because, yeah, Marines. It's an actual Oh, okay.

Brandon  54:39

Sorry. Okay, because I'm old man the screen. Yeah, because I'm an old man. I was like,

54:46

screen door with the screen. I should yeah.

Collin  54:51

Know the screens because the only way to activate them is by pressing them. But usually when you press them you have now entered a key and number and then his problem, right? So then what they decided that I know what we'll do, because people are just pressing on the screen and activating a number and then entering an incorrect code, we'll have a secret portion of the screen that you were supposed to press to activate the screen lighting,

55:20

and argument corner.

Collin  55:22

As opposed to just ignoring the first press like, just ignore the first one, just when light dim first press activates it. Second press start accepting key entries. No, they can't do that. Too far too complicated. We'll just have a secret part of the screen. So this one,

Brandon  55:40

so we have to cover like a button on the side because like, Okay, now it's all physical.

Collin Funkhouser  55:44

It'll just break and you'll get wet. So it has to be fun, nice, pure black screen with a secret part.

Brandon  55:51

Oh, yeah, cuz physical locking mechanisms never get in, they still work just fine. Exactly,

Collin  55:57

which is why we have on them with technology. So this screen has gone now cause not one, not two, but three issues with my employees, even after me sending a video of how to, which is fine. It's a ridiculous code, it's locked. So what happens is you press up, it's completely black, you're supposed to know that in the lower third of the screen, your press, you don't tap, you press, it's very key difference, because a lot of times people just come in just quick like, tap, no, press, press and I will push it, I would do no press and hold. That was the first part, we had an issue with the senator this morning who was tapping it and not pressing and holding it to activate the screen. So once that is activated, you get four round survivors, no three circles that show up that are divided into thirds, each with a number on them. And you are supposed to know to press on the number not the individual circles. So that was what confounded the that's what confounded the sick confounded the second sitter, because they found me that is confounding. I'm very confounded. They find now just trying to personalize this like a monstrosity. They thought it was like a simplified key like dialing Cookpad where you would just tap multiple times to get to that same number, right? Like, you know, t nine thing.

Brandon  57:29

I just thought maybe push the three things in the right order, like a Zelda dungeon like boop, boop boop. And then Diana,

Collin Funkhouser  57:39

they thought they thought, Okay, if I need to get to the three, I'll hit that.

Collin  57:42

Again thing. And no, you have to use like in their, their small circles, because it's a small screen. So you have to and it's all in like the lower half is it's so crazy. I don't know what, what happens to the other half. And then you have to press that. And then once you've pressed that, a new thing, a new little box will display below those three circles with a little fingerprint pattern in the middle of it. It's not actually a fingerprint sensor. But that's what you are supposed to do with a your fingers shoot was going and you're supposed to press that and hold it until it unlocks.

Collin Funkhouser  58:23

That is far too

Collin  58:24

complicated. RIDOT I'm just gonna do with my key. Thank you, like I was gonna click, I really wanted to get fancy on the side of it is an actual legit fingerprint sensor where you could progrise thumb. Yeah, and that would bypass all of this, this Rube Goldberg machine to unlock your door. And I actually just did a visit today with somebody who only has a fingerprint sensor on their front door.

Brandon  58:57

There's no

Collin  58:58

yeah, there's no there's a there's a there's a there's a physical key and a fingerprint sensor only to waist into their home. So like. That was Yeah. Yeah. And

59:15

the key

Collin  59:16

thing we're like what else? Like Well, we can get your finger programmed in right now. And I was like, That's No, no, no, that's super fatty. Here's the thing.

59:27

I have to be coming every time.

Collin Funkhouser  59:31

And if we're honest, I don't know how long they're gonna last. So in another three weeks, I don't know who I'm going to be. But I'm not going to rate we're going. Yes.

Collin  59:39

So I said if you're I said I'm going to strongly recommend we have a key. And more importantly, you get a lockbox and you put that on your front door when you're traveling, and that we can use that and then you just give us a code and it's it's just as secure.

Brandon  59:55

Like seriously

Collin  59:59

I mean like That's the weird part about all this stuff like, door lock is a door lock, it doesn't really matter how you lock it. If somebody hits your door with a crowbar, it's coming open.

Brandon  1:00:12

Right? Like, that's so bad.

Collin  1:00:16

It doesn't matter, right? It doesn't, it literally doesn't matter. It's just how you use it. So

1:00:21

just use a key, like, what is the?

Collin  1:00:27

Yeah, they're all trying to find all trying to, to, to, to,

1:00:32

I don't know, they're trying to

Brandon  1:00:33

solve a problem that doesn't necessarily exist.

Collin  1:00:36

Exactly right, you have two things that are pitted against each other security versus convenience. Yeah. And so like, it's, you know, apparently, like I said, the concept would be like, so you don't have to have a key. Right? Except for you have keys in your life. It just exists. Like if you work in a building, you have a key. If you drive a car, you have a key, right? We're talking about America, so everyone drives car here. It's mandatory. Like it's just, like literally required, you have them. It's not like, you know, it's not like you're

Brandon  1:01:15

gonna be keyless

Collin  1:01:17

your life. I mean, you have something even if you have like a fob or whatever, like you have to have something so like, and as far as security goes, it's not more secure. Like you could lose your key I guess if somebody could steal your key.

Brandon  1:01:31

That's a thing that could happen. But like,

Collin  1:01:36

I mean, I I've been I've test driven, you know, I 700 cars at this point. And I did I did test drive my third Tesla anyway, it's not important. So it's different low carb different one is different. You're getting a test, Laurie? I know. I can't, I can't literally can't it's not. I was doing the math. And I was like, to make the drive from because like, sometimes some mornings, I'll get up at 530 to drive to Springfield, which is 112 120 It's 120 miles. And then I spend all of my day doing nothing but driving. At what point am I going to be able to pull over and spend an hour charging I don't know how to do it. But like even they have little credit card cheap things or a fob. And yeah,

1:02:28

there's a thing, right? I guess he I mean, technically you can Yeah.

Collin  1:02:33

I know that's Apple apples trying to get people to put their there are if you have a certain kind of BMW, your key can become your phone.

1:02:42

Yes,

Collin  1:02:43

I Tesla can do that to candidate. No, you have to have the physical card thing, maybe not that hard. So yeah, you're right. There's still something there and and what they're trying, they're trying to get around the fact of like, carrying keys are inconvenient, what if you just used a code in your head or have a fingerprint mean? Or yeah, but

Brandon  1:03:03

carrying things is just inconvenient. That's just how it works. But it's also like, but here's that

Collin  1:03:09

here's what they all like, here's, I guess, here's, here's part of this, here's part of the societal breakdown, and we can translate this all the way back to our Be Kind Rewind episode of Classic, we don't have a lot of people interacting with one another. People don't have other people coming over to their homes, this is what I have. I have learned this, if you do that's true. You don't have people coming over. Because if you did all of these fancy solutions for locking your front door would literally not exist because you can't program in all of the possible thumb prints. You can't like all of these things for like I know a lot of these a lot of the new A lot of the locks you can you can turn your phone into a proximity key so it when it detects proximity to your lock it'll unlock it only works if you it's weird just you Yeah, that's true you and the other person who lives with you like if you have if you're having neighbors coming over or whatever like none of those actually work ensure the key of like dropping it off at their house or mailing it to them or leaving under the gnome in the front yard like all those things this but like they were a practical solution to I need other people access to my old and none of the modern ones really allow for that to happen in an easy way

Brandon  1:04:36

it's good point

1:04:40

it's a really weird thing about like

Brandon  1:04:43

I saw I can't think I don't

Collin  1:04:45

know like why I mean I think it's just because like I have keys for other things in my life. Right like have keys for my my school building and my classroom. Right that's kind of it right I'm have lots of other ones but I have a couple And so, like, I just have some that I need. And so I can't like what? Like not having a house key would not do me any good because I still have WorkKeys like, a 10th of an ounce, like, oh my gosh, yeah. Plus, you can't have a cool keychain.

Brandon  1:05:19

Plus, Plus,

Collin  1:05:21

you can't do that thing where you put the key ring over your finger and you spin them around. Right? You like spinning, catch him spinning catch him. I do that all the time. So I said, Take I do like I do the spin catch thing. Right. Especially while you're walking. Do it in church is a great thing. That oh, gee, fidget spinner. Yeah, you can't do that if you don't have a key. So why would I want to not have? And my business relies on keys. I mean, we have over almost two what? Wow. Yeah, over 100, almost 200 keys. And almost as many door codes and garage codes. Yeah. But I mean, I would I don't want I don't want keys anymore. So we're pushing everybody to do lock boxes. But it's still for a key right?

1:06:15

Yeah, right. So you're getting a key. A key

Collin Funkhouser  1:06:20

in there a holding place? Yeah.

1:06:22

Yeah. Right. Like, this is the place to hold the key. So it's like extra step in the process.

Collin  1:06:26

Don't want it in my office. Ah,

1:06:29

I mean, that's fair. That's fair. But like,

Collin  1:06:33

you know, still me like it's been. It's this. Yeah, that was very, very traumatic, very traumatic. And, you know, because then the staff are late to other things, and the dogs inside parking and all this stuff. And you're just like, you enter

Brandon  1:06:51

the code wrong. And the police come and like solve right like this. This is wonder like, dog walker. I can sit or label big in big bold letters, so you can see it from far away. Please don't hurt me. Don't tackle V. Exactly. Exactly. Why don't you?

Collin  1:07:20

Well, before we go, I think there's I would like to just tell you about the nerdiest purchase I've made in a very long time. Oh, this must not good considering some. Reach for it here. You saw my picture. I sincerely but I have purchased

Brandon  1:07:39

a book called

1:07:40

Old English literature a short introduction.

Brandon  1:07:46

Yeah. Okay. Yeah. This is what happens when you read too much talking. I've decided this is where this came from. This is I haven't read it yet, obviously, because I'm still doing some of the things but this is this is a purchase spurred on by my reading so much. Tolkien's work. Like,

Collin  1:08:06

Oh, I wonder, like, we should try to read some of the stuff that inspired him to write things and since that's what he was, he's reading and translating all this stuff kind of. for ya. Yeah. Right. Doing Daniel. Donohue Yes. Yes.

1:08:26

Yeah. Yep. Yes. So.

Collin  1:08:31

So this is my first for you, for you, for you, for you, boy ah, into, for a there we go forward into 83. And two, I was like, wait, no, that's the entrance way Showhouse.

Brandon  1:08:47

factI brain is my first little introduction to old literature, which I have not read any. I'm like, a very, very, very, very, very long time. 20 years actually, to be exact. So I'm interesting,

Collin  1:09:06

structured around figures from Anglo Saxon culture, the vast the hall, the miracle, the pulpit and a scholar. That is that's just kind of like about early Anglo Saxon literature, and all that stuff. And so there's another book a couple of books I have earmarked on my list to buy that are in the works in question. Were like a collection of works, right. So he edited Oh, oh, and he he was a co editor of the version of Beowulf that I have, oddly enough, which I mean, there's like 7000 ones. Which ones do you owe the Seamus Heaney. But it's the one with the chainmail photo from the back. Oh, that's the one with the side by side print. Right? Yes, yes. Ah, yeah, that's a good one.

Collin Funkhouser  1:09:59

He's A co editor on it. And they go, Yeah,

Collin  1:10:02

that's the that's the cool version that has the like, the left page is the original text. And then the right page is like the modern translation. It's yeah, that's sweet. Really. It's really one of the only ways to actually read it. It's true. Really, it's really cool. Speaking of which, I know Tolkein has a Beowulf translation out there. He does. Yeah, I think I don't know what it looks like. But I think I have a copy of that. Anyway, I really liked this one, because it especially whenever you as, again, as a as, for me as an introduction to this kind of stuff. It was very eye opening of just like, Oh, good, I think because I was taking I was I got this when I was taking French one and French two and was going through that process as well. Oh, yeah. This of like, Oh, right. There. Yeah. We're also

Collin Funkhouser  1:10:58

translating from these other things is pre French

Brandon  1:11:01

influenced English roots right here. Here we go.

Collin  1:11:08

Which is in three, William. Right, William. So yeah, that is the that's on the line. I don't know when I'll get to this. But that is on the cards for things. I don't know. Really. I don't really recall the thought process that led me to this eventuality. Right. However, part of it did entail. I was finishing reading some parts of the Silmarillion. And I was thinking about like,

Brandon  1:11:34

you know,

Collin  1:11:39

people dog on the Silmarillion they say it's really hard to read. They don't really, like it's difficult, right? So notoriously, it's like, famously hard to read, because it's just so wordy. It's a terrain. It's a tome, but Tolkien is like Tolkien is wordy anyway, like even like just passages in like, the two towers are just like, okay, man,

Brandon  1:11:59

let's come on, let's go. But when you kind of slow down and read it, it, there's a certain

Collin  1:12:07

way that he forms words, and the he puts into this together, that is extraordinarily satisfying. To like, say, so when you say them, yes. It's just like it. It has a mouthfeel almost, I really don't know how to describe it. But it has a way of like, his prose sort of rolls in a certain way, like, I guess, and it's just very kind of satisfying to go through. And so I was thinking about, like,

Brandon  1:12:39

I wonder where he got that from?

Collin  1:12:43

Right? Like, why does he write like this? And then I kind of feel like I've you know, like figured, you know, it's probably because all of his influences are Anglo Saxon literature, right? So I thought, I wonder

Brandon  1:12:55

what some of that stuff was like.

Collin  1:12:59

But as that isn't a kind of inaccessible thing to just like, I'm just going to read this.

Brandon  1:13:05

Like, indeed, ancient literature in general is quite inaccessible. It's very difficult to read. It's very weird.

Collin  1:13:15

Like, I've also been reading myths of Mesopotamia, which is, like, translations from like, these weird tablets that were found, you know, all this stuff. And it's, it's weird when you read it. Right? It's weird for different reasons. Right then Anglo Saxon poetry, but it's, it's weird in its own right. Partially because it was meant to be spoken. And the written down version, or like, the cliffnotes part, where it's just like, the main idea, and the orator was supposed to embellish and add all the stuff, right. So it's, it's its own special, like, kind of strange. Well, I think that's part of the we forget that, that Tolkien was I mean, he was a linguist, but he was a file of biologist, right. So he studied like, yeah, oral and written history of, of actual language, like, wasn't so yeah, it's a lot of that stuff is like he, when you look at his works, many that is, is kind of him applying his study of other languages to Yeah, it really is. So no, we talked about that before. Like, I think he ruins you from reading fiction, fantasy, like fantasy fiction.

Brandon  1:14:29

Because, like, the way that he does world building is really odd. Like, all of his world building is written down somewhere else. Yes. Right. Like you don't get to see it. Especially like when the lindo brothers came out, like, there was a whole bunch of back stuff. It was all in desks. And famously, he just writes on like random pieces of paper, and like stashes them in piles Right? Like it's very chaotic. Reading what Christopher would write about, like, how he had to design for these things was just like Dude, how did you do this?

Collin  1:15:01

Like it, but because it's there is a backstory, and there is history, and there's all this stuff, but it's not in the book you're reading. Right? It makes it very like. Intriguing, right? Because it makes the world

Brandon  1:15:19

feel big because the writer knows about the world. And he'll just like, say things and you're like, wait, what does that mean? Whereas other books will, like, ad nauseam. Explain every detail to you in the book, you're reading it like really unhelpful, much too long exposition

Collin  1:15:40

pieces. Right? And so you're like,

1:15:45

I don't care.

Brandon  1:15:47

Right? Like, I heard the story was fine until

1:15:52

now. Right? It's like,

Collin  1:15:55

it's a very different experience to read. So kind of messes you up. You're like, Ah, me. And I'm like, like, Well,

Brandon  1:16:04

why is why is this other person writing this book that's much longer than it should be? Because they're just exposing me?

Collin  1:16:10

Well, because they're not trying to they're not. They're not capable of doing anything with it. I think that's his, um, I do. I remember. When he he didn't just tackle Beowulf, he actually went and wrote a literary critique of it. Yes. What? What's I forget what it's called

1:16:27

either. Yeah. Is that the

1:16:33

what is it called? Months?

Collin  1:16:36

Something in Monsters, right. Monsters. A monster. No monsters in in critics? Oh, yeah. Okay. Okay.

Brandon  1:16:41

Where he, I knew monsters in there. So

Collin  1:16:45

I read portions of that. And that really is I looking back at that in the time. He really basically pushed literally, everything else aside, like all of the all of the scholarship that had been done up to that day on it. He was like, forget all of that. Let's focus back on the poem. Yeah, and he really refocused a lot of that around like, it's, it's, it's, it's a world building. poem. It's bill, every aspect is meant to build like, like blocks on a piece of a puzzle. Not just have a narrative, not just a story. It's like it's actually building something. I think that's a really interesting fine tuned, take on that. I have to launch we get we get in the narrative, we forget that we are building something I say we

1:17:41

Yeah, like, Oh, yeah. Authors in general, the royalty, right. It's not

Collin Funkhouser  1:17:47

to go somewhere

1:17:49

with Yeah, right. I think that's important. Well,

Brandon  1:17:51

and and it's interesting, because like, when you read, like, even with the Mesopotamia stuff, like the you see, they the things that they say and the things they chose to write, like things that were the most important to them, like the way that they highlight things like these are characteristics and traits and things that they value. Yes, right, exactly. When you read like Beowulf sections available if you like, these are things that are important to this culture, when you read like the wanderer, right, because I've read that before that poem, that famous poem that Tolkien borrowed from, in the wind. The song that oh, man, the

Collin  1:18:27

row hand guy sings at the funeral. Where's the horse and the rider? Where's the horn? That's what that's borrowed from. Like, it's inspired by the Wonder. So I read the Wonder.

Brandon  1:18:36

And it's just like, Whoa, this is like, some heavy stuff right here. You know what I mean? Like, it's like a lament. And it's very heavy. It's very practical, and it's very beautiful. But it's also like,

1:18:52

this is what was important at

Brandon  1:18:56

this time, right? And that's all that's you don't get any other world building. It's just a poem sent even that long. And you get a lot of information from that prose. Right? And it's really good. Right? So, you know, the fact that he was able to do that, and, you know,

Collin  1:19:16

translate that into somebody's writing is what makes it so interesting. Why, like, it's so much right. But like, that's why I kind of got this was like, Okay, I want to read some of this stuff that would inspired him because I just like reading his prose and his work and stuff. So things I read, I don't like read it all the time. But I was like, Oh, I'm just gonna go read this chapter that some really now because this is really good, right? I read this and, and you get some of that. Like, when you start getting into some of that stuff, too. You kind of get

Brandon  1:19:43

the way that he writes and the way that he talks and the things that he talks about, you kind of get like the things that were important to him as well. And the things like his values, they're kind of like you can start to find them. Right sprinkled in there. A little bit here,

Collin  1:19:57

a little bit there, right like the characters He choose to be important like Sam,

Brandon  1:20:01

obviously, or like, or his. His, uh, his unblock is not in the Silmarillion. It's actually in one of his drafts that Christopher put out in the histories of Miller thing, like his version of the the end times, like the

Collin  1:20:24

final judgement time of Middle Earth. Like his version of that is like extremely telling like, oh, okay, I see.

Brandon  1:20:33

Yeah, because his final battle is a little bit different than some other stuff like he was inspired by like North Miss Norse mythology and like judo, Judeo Christian belief stuff, but like it's very, it's very sort of beautiful the way it sort of is supposed to tie up in his mind, like all these things that happen. It's like, oh, the N times are like, all these people that went to the Silmarillion. And there's all these problems, and they chose to do one thing a certain way, and it caused all this stuff. In the final battle, they get an opportunity to make a different choice. Like they returned, and they make another choice. And it defeats the evil, and it rebuilds the world. And it builds the things like Oh, dang, dude, like, whoa, bad, some heavy stuff. Like, seriously, like, it's great. And, you know, he didn't publish it, because he's notorious for like, Okay, well, I'm not quite done. I'm gonna tweak this. I'm gonna do this. To get it right. And it like wasn't exactly how I wanted it yet, but just the outline of how it goes. It's like okay, it makes some of the stories in the Silmarillion even more like, oh, wow, that adds a whole other layer to this like, dang. Like, it's crazy. So he's very connected and thought through so yeah, that was my inspiration

Collin  1:22:17

for I am looking forward to your your critique. works there.

Brandon  1:22:23

Yeah, so not not not promising. That's gonna be time soon, because John's got lots of stuff to do. But yeah, it's

Collin  1:22:31

nice. Yeah. I like it. Can't wait to hear from that. Very good.

Collin Funkhouser  1:22:38

Yeah, well, we'll walk up there and see what happens. All right. Let me do