Aaron is very busy with coaching clinics. He’s learning all about coaching and grass. Mostly grass. Brandon ate a restaurant and is binge watching Kitchen Nightmares…cause #reasons. Collin goes into a big rant about moving podcast hosts and all of the annoyances that go with that.

Aaron is doing coaching stuff
Coaching clinics
That’s not natural, but oak express is
Aaron explored St. Louis
We don’t like Cracker Barrel
A brief discussion about fuzzy memories of directions around St. Louis
Brandon ate at a restaurant
Is binge watching Kitchen Nightmares
It has weird audio mixing
Ramsey isn’t a chef…she’s a restauranteur
Brandon worked at a restaurant
Collin has a rant…
Good News?
Shark Week!!!! https://www.discovery.com/shark-week/schedule
Challenge? Shark movie not named ‘Jaws’

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SPEAKERS

Collin, Aaron, Brandon

Collin 00:04

Welcome to Oh, brother, a podcast of three brothers trying to figure it all out with your hosts, Brandon, Colin and Aaron. On this week's show, proto typical coach. Hi. What is new?

Brandon 00:24

Oh? Oh no. Some stuff I guess. I was very anticlimactic.

Collin 00:32

Anyway, Aaron, would you switch right here in your turn? What's new?

Aaron 00:38

Now we're just getting kind of chillin, we had the LSF, a coaching clinic that week, and went Monday and Wednesday. Rules are for softball, baseball, soccer practice, our season starts on eight. So coming up here pretty quickly. And if you're ready for that, so really always the New Orleans in all paperwork, and I forgot how much I hate changing jobs. Like all the paperwork that you have to do, like order to do set your job, like all the insurance and like, you know, all the all the things that you knew how much we'd like to claim and you want to go and all that stuff. And I was like, I gotta put my routing number again, how many times I got social number down and I was like, Yeah, I kind of want to just stop getting new jobs and stay in a place for one. So

Collin 01:43

I think I've told this before, but I remember when I applied to a job. I I thought that I was putting in my wrong social security number because there were too many fours. And I was like there's no way there's that many fours in it.

Brandon 01:58

Then I like turns out there is that there is yeah

Collin 02:01

sorry.

Aaron 02:10

Paperwork isn't why No, it's the worst pain clinics are. If if you're listening to this, and basically summarizing every coaching clinic possible. Alright, so Oh, man, I can't believe a lot of guy like you and your team. Oh, not bad. And you go sit for four hours and look at someone talking about grass. And that's about it. Like,

Brandon 02:37

oh, yeah, the old I guess to let anybody in here. Man that never gets old.

Aaron 02:47

Coaching clinics are like, it is cool to kind of like, socialize and like, awkward people. But my alternative am like that there's a few coaches that I talked to. And they're like, they were pretty excited for me to be at a like a really good school. And, like, we're pretty happy for me. And I was happy not to be able to play them because they always like kick her butt every sport so but I was like, Oh, I'm so glad I don't have to play you next year. But it is kind of a weird like. Like, it is kind of it feels like a I don't say like fraternity but it kind of feels that way. Or like most of these coaches have been like voting against each other for like, a really long time. And like they know each other like very well. And like I only know like, like a handful of people. Like I just get there. And I'm like, Oh, hi, I definitely don't know who all these famous people are. Because that is definitely the people that's like Yo man, this guy was one like 2000 games and he's like in the coaching Hall of Fame. And I'm just like, I'm just trying to find where the bathroom is. But it is kind of cool because they they do these things every year where you have to go in especially if you're a head coach, you have to go and sit on the rules meeting which is either like a change terminology or they change like new rules and like the there's a sign of things you have to do. And then there's like business meetings where they do like redistricting. And then they have a bunch of like speakers for various sports. You can go and listen to like we went to one college baseball coach talk about drills that they do and then we went in and sat on this college code talks about and graphs for about an hour and a half about you know, like oh you know if you got a meter out there that's what you need to do with that coil if you got that few out there and you know this is one of the best things in house like this seriously a speech like we have to sit in here for the coaching meeting that's like right after this. Are we serious? Is there very interesting to go through There's a lot of networking that happens. And it's just, it's it's crazy just to see like, how many people steal from across the state and how many people you talk to. And I went Monday for baseball and Wednesday for softball. And then we've had practice all this week and the man actually rain like for the first time last night and like most of today, but I was actually kind of super cool during the rain and but yeah, I mean, that's pretty much why we get a nutshell so far anyway,

Brandon 05:35

it's pretty good. It also rained here for like five seconds and then was like, ah, grass is still you talking about grass like our grass is brown. There you go. That's grass update everybody. Grass update dead. very excitingly dead dead or and dying. Pretty dead. Gotta get you some of that high powered Kentucky blue hip, super turf. That's what you got to do. I tell you what, there's a deep cut right there for your listeners. If you know what that is, I should give you a price. That's why That's okay.

Collin 06:08

Here's, here's everybody if you lived in the Midwest, in the night.

Brandon 06:13

Yeah, you might know what that is.

Collin 06:16

You also might know this next reference might be only located in the Ozarks. I was walking the dog the other day. And this also has to do with grass. And whenever you either kind of catch on to this, you saw that it was our color as I was against did not. But what I did see was walking and there's a guy painting his lighting. And then he was blowing the painting the sprayer the excess into the grass. And I just remembered that's natural. But oak expresses painting his lawn green with the, with the bristles. And

Brandon 06:58

oh my gosh,

Collin 07:00

it was not green grass, which was not green paint, which have made it even more hilarious. And I would have let go of the dog to take a video of that if that was actually happening in front of me. It was so funny. I immediately can't just that tone of voice. The commercial where the guy is pushing the lawnmower. And he looks over at his neighbor who has all the dead grass and his neighbor with the dead grass is on his hands and knees painting it with fresh green. Oh, express it.

Brandon 07:29

Oh my gosh. Oh.

Aaron 07:32

So my first thought was that neighbor that lived by Uncle Gary named Meredith did his grass. Nice. That was my first thought when you said that. And then I'm like, oh, yeah, there was a commercial about that.

07:45

There was and if I can find this? I don't know. Well, you

Brandon 07:50

may be local television commercials are the best thing ever. Nothing will be greater than the furniture factory outlet commercials. For the 90s Nothing is better than that. Oh. furniture factory omelette.

08:08

That's all well, good. I'm

Collin 08:15

glad you're learning about grass and talking to the good old boy club.

Aaron 08:19

And getting how,

Brandon 08:23

how many visors were in that room?

Aaron 08:27

So before I forget, I made a reference about wearing my grass. Good old boys. There was a coach who made the statement to that same graph person. How do you get rid of crawdads from your field? Oh, yeah. And, and I thought he was everyone thought he was joking. But I've been to their field and their field that on a reserved or reclaimed oil field and it's like outfield and so every time it rains, a caught adds just climbing out. And all right know the truth.

Brandon 09:03

You get some hot water and season on

Aaron 09:05

the sidelines and just like look down like season. Why is there crawdads or Brennan's inquiry. I was sitting there on the stairs of this really nice hotel in Tulsa. And I was sitting there just by the in my mind business and there was a guy coming up the stairs. He's like man, he just bought a baseball coach a mile away. And I have my my baseball pullover with my hat and sunglasses turned upside down and I was like that guy he's right. There was a lot of people that you could just like just by like looking at them first second, like the hobby that the Catholicos because they just have like every prototypical coach that you can think of was there like there was the old timers there were the you know, it who looked like he was well, but there's definitely a coach and then he had like the ring really mean looking softball lady coaches that are just like, really good at what they do. And like, I was talking to one coach who just got a plaque for winning for 700 game. I was like, all year like I can I can feel your power radiating from you like you're just like bad, intimidating, just that awesome. Not so much visors, but like a like a smorgasbord of like, different like hat variations and different like, styles and like there was definitely the coast that was there that's like because like, there's definitely the coast that like, like uses profanity like a little bit too much. Like was there and you know, the good old. I don't know if I can say the classic phrase, but we all know what says I'm thinking of when you think of like, it's an old, old time Ball Coach Am I mean, I always want like, there's a few coaches that were like, super hyped for me to be at like a good school. Like, there's one coach that I knew for years, and he was one of the people that I was very glad not to play them again, because they just would pick our teeth and every time he's like, a different color show where you I don't like, Oh, thank you, I'm gonna know how to play anymore. Because the last time I played it was like, wanting to run. I'm not thrilled and now I'm not going to miss playing you. Kind of thing. And then the other cool thing about these clinics is that they have a lot of like, not sponsored, but they have like different promotional stuff. They're like they have people who are promoting terror for different jerseys or just steal your stuff. And that's always a cool thing to walk around with vendors and whatnot and just kind of see what like all they're saying and you know, it's also kind of nice to be at a moderately bigger school that just like texting our athletic director like hey, can we like either? And he's like, yeah, just get the number for me and I'll send you a Pio like thank you that's actually kind of cool to actually have a school that has a little bit of money so you don't have to like fight for it or anything so it was neat I'm I'm glad to win but I'm brought it

Brandon 12:41

over because at least useful right? So that would be out that's handy. That it wasn't like completely boring and a waste of time. So that's almost all the grass the

Aaron 12:51

grass kind of thing was

Brandon 12:52

okay, well like we're in Oh come on. Yeah, that was your favorite year you know, maybe not 100% useful but it

Collin 13:03

wasn't it was not it was largely

Aaron 13:09

we got our first scrimmage next week we got we got our first game week after that and then after we're off to the races man like our see our top on Oklahoma start like super early. Yeah. Really early. Yeah and then school our 15th of August I think so yeah, we're just coming off frequently.

Brandon 13:42

Yes, we are fast approaching that time.

Aaron 13:48

Target ride

Brandon 13:50

Yeah, no, I saw a commercial the other day I was like no no, I don't want to go oh, I the transition is always hard right?

Aaron 14:02

Yeah, I just I just saw my cross from the first time last week they're still doing the floors but I know what I'm teaching now. I actually know my schedule. Ah, useful. It is so easy. Oh my gosh. So it's first our land period. Nice. meet you. I

Brandon 14:25

haven't planned for your second

Aaron 14:27

Hey, second third our US history. So easy. With our junior high athletic then what does that mean? That means I go and deal with like the as I do, I'm doing high school. Softball and junior high fall fall. So I just go to the because that's the only time junior high like really practices during the day. Okay, we go we gotta practice for like 45 minutes or whatever. And And then lunch. Then we go into the fifth and sixth is your history. And then I have high school athletics. Some of our nice, sounds pretty good.

Collin 15:23

Does that include?

Aaron 15:26

Does it? So high school? Are they? I don't know, what are you heard that you're calling school athletic.

15:33

I'm I wanted.

Aaron 15:35

In some schools as always, that's usually the time where people go like work out, like before practice or something. And so for softball, they will all the all the girls will get up, I get out of class because it's technically a class period. And they'll go and like do the hitting facility or go to the field. And we'll start practice so that way we can get out at like, like 330 or four. So we're not there to like six o'clock at night practices. So this is kind of a little bit Headstart. And that's kind of the same things I do with junior high athletics is though, for junior high, it's not as like, heavily focused, and you only get like 45 minutes to 30 minutes of practice. So they get written down there, do whatever, went back to the watch and then have flash. And so it's not like super prominent, but you typically don't have high school kids practicing with junior high like besides like you do like warm up. But we'll never have like a high school girl hidden off like a junior high pitch or anything like that, because it just doesn't get so they usually practice that breaks. It's two very different skill levels and skill sets. Oh, yeah.

Brandon 16:49

Oh, that'd be demoralizing for that middle school pitcher. Like why?

16:53

I think I think our junior high is actually better than our high school.

Brandon 16:56

So okay, well, then it'd be demoralizing for the high school

Aaron 16:59

that can. Yeah, we got we got some girls that can just fall out. But it's, it's coming along, it is going by a lot faster than I thought. And it's kind of nice, where there's four of us coaches, and we're kind of split up but all of us help out with kind of both. And so we're we've gotten to know each other very well. We're very, you know, we're very connected. We're all kind of on the same page. And we all have kind of like the same sense of humor, so and feel pretty good. That's good. Actually goes with schedule, although I know you will not come down. Because we like to have like five games a week or something. Oh my gosh. Yeah. And I'll sit down. I'll hide that everything. You know, this is gonna be great. And then I was looking at their schedule stuff from last year. They're like, one and 26 like roof.

Brandon 18:00

Building year time.

Aaron 18:02

No, they're not bad.

Brandon 18:03

Everything's fine.

Aaron 18:04

That's interesting. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. Yeah.

Brandon 18:09

What are you going to do? Go Oh, I'm 27 now. I'd be fine. You go on the up now.

Aaron 18:14

Perfect. Yeah, so and I was one of the girls who's like, oh, coach, we weren't very good last year. I've no doubt that you guys will be fine. And I was looking online at their stuff. I'm like, Oh, they scored seven runs the entire season.

Brandon 18:30

It's fine. You just work on some fundamentals. Right? It's a coaching term. You go could you bring in a coach absorb now absorbing the salt from Aaron, just like

Collin 18:44

fundamentals? Oh,

Aaron 18:47

we got we got some pretty good expectations. And that are super are our superintendent who's a really nice guy. He's trying to like, you know, hype us up. And he's like, Hey, don't worry. We got the new travel bus this year. And he was like, pointing at me and doing kind of like the finger guns. He's like, Yeah, that new new travel but I'm like, Oh, I get to be the first one to drive this monstrosity of a tank.

Brandon 19:17

Put those finger guns away, sir. We don't do that. Oh,

Collin 19:21

we're finger guns

Aaron 19:23

now. Oh, yeah, that's a that's been pretty much last week. Over the weekend, we went to the pool like every day because it was 1000 degrees. And yes. I feel like if I'm going to be outside I gotta do some some panning in some way shape or form. I went to the pool is not going to go anywhere. Anything anything? No rock black lead went to St. Louis. Oh, yeah, we forgot to mention that. Got it without the Ricardo game. I was never a big fan of Airbnb. But Shelley and her mom are are huge. spokespeople for Airbnb ease and physical dad or not gonna be a hotel. I was looking at all these hotels, Airbnb that was like,

Brandon 20:18

you don't want to participate in the destruction of the housing market.

20:22

Yeah.

Collin 20:23

So there are signs of Airbnb. Okay.

Brandon 20:29

Back to Eric. We argue later, Aaron, tell us about baseball. Yeah, so

Aaron 20:33

we were always at first I was like, cargo. We I think I got pictures of that. But we stayed in like a really cool like, historic downtown ish part of St. Louis. Not to get a part over like five miles away from the stadium. And I was in every out oh, this is from Ghana, where I got this everytime I think it's like a vacation. I always like on board that traffic. And I got to do this. So there was like, hardly like any traffic. I know that we're to St. Louis. But all the highways suck. But yeah. Driving, like,

Brandon 21:08

that's where all the traffic is. It's on the highway. Like, once you get out, it's like, fine. It's like a normal place.

21:17

And then I was like, freeways are all saying,

Aaron 21:19

like, we gotta get we're gonna park we're gonna have to walk like 10,000 miles, or mom paid extra for like, row parking. Holy, really baseball game. And I

Brandon 21:30

would not want to know how much that cost was involved.

Aaron 21:34

Just wait. So we were literally right across the street from the stadium, and then we walked in. And postgame is just amazing. I love this. We meandered around and we were up five rows from the field. Oh, man, we we were close. Close. And so which

Brandon 21:56

side? Were you on? First? Or third? You're on the first base side.

Aaron 21:59

Okay. How far do we go first base dugout, right behind, I guess. 20 feet from the perfect line. That's pretty good. Yeah, so we were like, and of course, being a huge hurdle fan. Albert who holds who's I've been a big fan of for years, was on the first day side. And I was like I could, I can't touch from here, but like, a little closer I get there. And of course, I got sunburn, soccer that we were there. Like we said the font may be sitting on a certain section, you have like your own little not private. But you have your own little like, concession stand area. And it was cool because it was like under the bleachers and like all these TVs in there. And like, you can go in and get like, out of the sun. I will go higher north a little bit in this walk name. And then you just walk around. And like they have like all the shops and they have like, you know, restaurants and things you go to and then afterwards, we walked through the arch that we walked back on our cars with the Airbnb. And then we have pizza. And then we drove home the next day next morning. And it was the it was a it was a super cool Airbnb, like there was downtown. It was like one of those like, oh, like taller, like houses but it had like three different houses and they're all like very, like narrow. Like there was a surprisingly big and like you say, man that would just go home. And I was sitting there the whole time thinking I hated this drive when I was younger. I mean, he will make me drive Illinois. But it doesn't seem to that. And so yeah, drove back and got home and just put Aloevera on and

24:12

I was our that was our athlete before.

Brandon 24:16

Yeah yeah, it's the it's the St. Louis to Springfield, Illinois. That's the kind of the killer part of that drive. Because there's like

24:34

nothing there. No, I mean,

Brandon 24:39

at least you have some nice like, you can do this. The random stop just to like get out of the car. Right? You can like stop and like, Rolla or something because Raul is like halfway around like Springfield, Missouri. A little bit further away from where you started, but like, you know, you get there like stuff you could like get out you can go eat or whatever. You're blank to Springfield, Missouri, Illinois is like VA

Aaron 25:08

because we went through Lebanon. Yeah, yeah. So like we went through that way and the whole way up. It was nice taken me to that Cracker Barrel of that empty store

Brandon 25:25

like the big Cracker Barrel. Yeah as though it was. You and me stopped at Cracker Barrels.

Aaron 25:32

That's that for some reason we didn't talk about like all of them but no, I mean, but like I very, very succinctly if meanie wanted to get him to eat her first recommendation if it wasn't Applebee's talking about interesting though I

Collin 25:46

never I never ate at a Cracker Barrel with beanie.

Brandon 25:50

And I didn't either. That's why this is interesting. No,

Collin 25:52

this is like an Erin Loney connection. Was it? Aaron? Aaron, did you? Did you ask? are you projecting? Look sounds like somebody who likes backup there

Aaron 26:04

was a I know because I didn't I thought I liked Cracker Barrel because he was like, Oh, you gotta try some grit. I got on Greg guard. Hi, sure. I'll try me. I'm just saying like the they're discussing. And yeah, we would always start with the ones in Marshfield. We knew that's how you knew the trip started. Here's what happened to you.

Brandon 26:31

This is what this is what Mimi's would do sometimes like you said you kind of liked it one time. Oh, yeah. And then like, she took that to mean like, You love it. And she'd go there all the time. Right. It's a great grandma thing to do. Right? She was just very guilty of that. Like, I want to

26:48

go. Yeah, like,

Brandon 26:51

I like in middle school. I collected Coca Cola stuff. And like, for the rest of my life, she would give me cocoa thanks for okay. You know how to do this anymore? I think.

Collin 27:05

Yeah, it was like yeah, with me in like boxes, like wood boxes. I had like one. And then after that, she was like, Oh, I found this other wooden box for you. And look at this other small box is 70.

Brandon 27:20

So that's what happened. Aaron, you went there one time and got something that you were like, Oh, that was That was some good chicken. And then she was like, go into Cracker Barrel always. Yeah.

Aaron 27:34

antique stores obviously. Well, obviously then. There was I can't I can't remember what it was. It was Euro cat. This is this is this town that bike. Like in like the side of cliffs. Or there's like all these like, rock bays. Like they're the steak and shake. Like all the stuff. Like, I don't know how we get to St. Louis. Oh,

Brandon 27:56

like, is that not Lebanon? Because there's like, it's not close. But it's like there's like big protests right there.

Aaron 28:02

Yeah, it's that but it's further. It's closer to St. Louis.

Brandon 28:07

I know what you're talking about. Yeah. Yeah.

Collin 28:10

I don't remember where that is. Cool. Yeah. Cuz we

Brandon 28:15

always stopped it. There's like a McDonald's there.

28:17

Right? Yeah. What is the oil?

Brandon 28:22

I forgot where that is. Yes,

Aaron 28:24

we drove past it. And I'm like, Oh, it's this place. And I was like, I completely forgot this.

Collin 28:29

Was it was it Mesa Verde National Park. were you driving through the lift dwellings? That was this was I think that's the wrong direction. From St. Louis. I may never know. I

Aaron 28:39

often remember not driving to St. Louis with me because we always do like, Alchemy. I feel like because we always watch this from a distance. Yeah, the bridge, the bridge

Brandon 28:53

that you cross to go on the highway in Illinois, south of St. Louis. So I've never actually like, got to the city proper. But you could see you always saw the arch in the stadium and all that stuff from the Illinois side. Yeah, right. So you would look across you look back across from the Illinois side and see the downtown St. Louis from there. So you kind of got to the outside of the city where you started getting into like the metropolitan area, right? Because all of a sudden it's like, yeah, the Midwest is weird. Listeners because it's like, nothing, nothing. Nothing. Nothing. Nothing giant city, like out of nowhere. Oh, there it is like so like, that place you were talking about with the cliffs. It's not like cliffs. It's like It's like big road cuts, but like really big road cuts because there's like the little bit of the Last Mountain knees up there. And like there's a quarry over there somewhere, I think right? I understand about and then like, it's not really big. There's no Got any big cities like really close to it and then all of a sudden it's like blam. You're in St. Louis. Like you just like, come around the corner. You're like come around a corner and there it is. Hello giant like six lane freeway.

Aaron 30:11

It was kind of like we came into Chesterfield, and we stopped at a what they call an outlet mall. And we took them. We spent a lot of time there. And I just thought like, it was just actually like, really cool. And then I was like Chesterfield, and I was like, boom, St. Louis. Like, oh, this is way different than nothing as I like remembered it. So that was that was actually kind of cool that we did that.

Brandon 30:36

Yeah, it's like surprise. Here it is. Yeah. Kansas City is the same way. Right? Except for on that side. It's like flat nothing absolutely zero Kansas City you get a little bit like I'll it's not like Lee Summit, some like a little bit of sprawl. But then like, it's not like too crazy. And then all sudden, it's like, a couple.

Collin 31:00

You get thrown into a massive road mixer and interchange and all of a sudden, yeah, you're like, what's going 85 miles an hour with cars all around you like Never mind.

Brandon 31:14

Like I was in the middle of a cornfield five minutes ago. What's happening

Aaron 31:23

gotta love it. That's true. Very true. Well, I'm

Brandon 31:28

glad that you survived. You didn't get hit by any foul balls or anything. Yeah. Congratulations. That's, that's the danger zone up there behind the dugout, right? That's like, are you getting waxed? So

Aaron 31:41

it was, it was a it was a unique experience. And, you know, if I had layered up just a smidge more of them triatic Or been like, I mean, we it was hot. Like there was a few people that were actually like, being taken away by like little ambulance people because of like, just heat exhaustion. Oh, yeah. But I've had a lot of fun. But yeah, it was it was

Brandon 32:05

excited. My heat stroke. I didn't want to go into cat.

Aaron 32:09

Now. It was it was a lot of fun. I'm really glad I had that experience. And I'm really glad that we got a chance to go. Yeah,

Brandon 32:18

I'm glad your road trip was successful. And everything went good is good, good stuff. My week has been a lot less exciting. We it's a good thing that we did record last night because last night like the one place we went to where we went down

Aaron 32:38

and ate it the

Brandon 32:42

Asian restaurant down in Cassville because that's where we know the owners right? And it's the only place right here you can get Thai food. And I ate way too much Thai food was like it was like, it was like oh, that was a lot of way too much Thai fried rice and like I can't deal with my life choices right now. Because we know them they're like oh yeah, here we have these all these crab rangoons did I say no to the freshly made crypt? Absolutely not. No, but a way too much Thai food so that was exciting. Outside of that the binge watching Episode of this week has been rather randomly Gordon Ramsay's Kitchen Nightmares. That's been in the on the watch list.

Collin 33:38

Ever seen highlight of that? Is that actually good? It's it's like I don't know. It's,

Brandon 33:44

it's entertaining. It's like the same show over and over again. Right? Like all shows like that. It's all right. It's pretty good. All you need to do all you really just need to see like one.

Aaron 33:55

And you've seen all of them. Right? Like the breakdown is. Gordon goes to a restaurant. Gordon eats lunch. It's bad.

Brandon 34:07

According tells the Gordon tells the owners. It's bad. They're all in denial. Because they're all like I write my food. Sometimes he talks to them first. He's like, Oh, I write my food like 10 out of 10. Right. He talks to the owners and the chef. And then the waitresses come and they sort of like give him the real deal. Like they tell him how it is. He eats lunch. He tells him the food is terrible.

Aaron 34:37

He comes back for dinner service. In the American version,

Brandon 34:42

you always get the word of Gordon's presence in this town has brought out more locals than usual code for Gordon tweeted out like yo, I'm gonna be here like,

Collin 34:53

yeah, it is not so subtle way to slam the kitchen to make it Yeah,

Brandon 34:58

because he wants to see like Are these cooks and chefs like any good, right? Are they like whenever he watches that? He watches it fall apart?

Aaron 35:09

He explores the walk in fridge finds that it's

Brandon 35:15

her indecision they're horrified. Horrifying, this show might make you reconsider your life of going to restaurants sometimes if you want it. And then he like yells, owners are in denial about their life. And then he like, becomes a counselor talks about their problems and helps them make

Collin 35:38

what a weird premise to a show.

Brandon 35:39

This is really weird. It's really, it's, it's hilarious. If you watch back to back like one of the original British episodes. Oh, and then like, the American episodes, because the British episodes are like, mega chill.

35:53

Just like hanging out. Talking. Like, very rarely

Brandon 35:58

does he get shouty?

Collin 36:00

Oh, no, they made it extreme for us American blokes.

Brandon 36:03

Well, the American owners are also like way shout here.

Collin 36:06

Well on the whole racist, Okay, fair enough. But like he

Brandon 36:11

he's still like Gordon, so he's still like, eff this blah, blah, blah. That's just how he speaks. So it's like, whatever. Not do that. Yeah, it's just what his character trait, right.

36:22

Like, it's like, Wait, chill.

Brandon 36:26

And he like this focuses more on him, like, helping make food and stuff like that. It's like, Wait, like the meat. Even the music is like way chill. Right? It's like, this, like, normal, like elevator music in the background of that we know when they edited show together. Or like in the American one. It's

36:45

like, got the diet,

Brandon 36:47

right. Like all this. It's this horrible, like Stinger that plays and like 50 side of times episodes like that.

Aaron 36:54

Oh, like when things go bad? Yeah, yeah. Like

Collin 36:57

the that's like when I watched Shark Tank. And that music is just it's so anxiety inducing as they're talking. Yeah, it's it's like that. I can't listen to that and enjoy it. Because it's just there's so much tension brought up by it. Like this is ridiculous show with a ridiculous premise. Why am I anxious right now? Oh, because the music in the background is yeah, that's part of the American Kitchen Nightmares. Plus, the editing is like way slicker.

Brandon 37:21

And you can tell like, sometimes you're like, that wasn't like somebody's like, it cuts it somebody's reaction. But you're not sure if they're reacting to the thing that you just saw, or if it was like earlier, and they just like cut it in there? Because they thought it would be cool, right? Like that way. Yeah. It's so much. It's like really weird. And the weirdest part. So it's at least the version that I found on YouTube. Because I just found on YouTube, I just hit the playlist. And I was like playing Forza and like racing my cars around and just like listening to this in the background, we're you know, it's fine. You need something that on the background, because the music in the Forza games is like, not good. So like I was just sort of on, you know. And so I wasn't like in rapt attention, because I watched a few. And then like a couple of them are really good. I watch those ones what whatever. But like, the sound mixing is so

38:18

weird. I don't know

Brandon 38:21

if it's like original, I guess it's I guess this is a rip from the original version. But like,

38:26

there's this thing, where

Brandon 38:30

because I was listening to my headphones for a bunch the time like that left, right. Mixing is really weird. And like for the show, for the show. And it like really, for some of the like musical cues and stuff. It pings back and forth and like pans like really rapidly back and forth from left to right. And it's really disorienting. Like why is it? Why is it doing that?

Collin 38:54

Anxious that? Yeah.

Brandon 38:57

I think it's, it's really weird. It might be like that. It might be what it's for. Because like on television speakers,

39:04

you probably wouldn't notice it. Yeah. Right.

Brandon 39:07

But when you're listening to headphones, it was just like, it was just bouncing, like this really rapid fire panning. And it was like what, what the heck? Oh, no. And there was this other thing where like they would they would mix in. Background restaurant noise. Right. It's mixed in the layer. It's not like actually the restaurant it's like mixed in. It's just this like stock,

39:34

background murmur.

Brandon 39:36

It's mixed in. And it's it's sometimes it's in really weird places.

39:42

So there was a

Brandon 39:43

few times I was listening to this and I'd be off I would just like take my headphones off and be like, what? Because I thought Susan was talking to me from like the kitchen, because sometimes she's like, Hey, can you come help me? Can you you know, whatever. I'm like, Yeah, sure. But like, I thought she was speaking to me. But it was, the sound was mixed so badly in whatever version of this I was watching was like this. Inaudible background noise it It sounded like, you know, you couldn't quite hear what was happening. So I thought it was her. Oh, yeah, asking me to do something, but I couldn't hear because I have my headphones on. So that's hilarious. So the audio mixing in at least the version that I saw is bad.

Collin 40:29

Understood. She,

Brandon 40:31

yeah, I was watching Kitchen Nightmares a lot. And I don't really know why it's one of the things is accounts watch this.

Aaron 40:37

So I will, I will say or like to add, I love watching. British Bake Off. So yeah, but and then we we've also been watching Iron Chef. Because of reasons.

Brandon 40:53

Yeah. I mean, hey, I listen, I watch a lot of that stuff, too. It's okay.

Aaron 40:57

I was in there thinking like, this is kind of weird, because they have a live audience. If you think about it, like, yeah, it's a live audience. But then that audience just like, what like, what do they do? They just stand there for 30 minutes the whole time, like those people are cooking or like, is it all because I know for like the finales and stuff like to have, like, people in the attendance but just like, if you think about it, you're at a cooking show, where they, it takes a long time to do things. And so what do those people do? Do they just, like, walk around? are

Collin 41:46

they setting the timer for 35 minutes or

Aaron 41:51

30 minutes and like, I gotta say, 30 minutes. And whenever that's every time I want one of those shows that I know what goes through my head. Because I just think that's just so weird. I'm like, oh, man, I got tickets to go see the British Bake Off. I'm like, you're gonna be sitting outside for like hours because it takes them three hours that they could see, like, what are you doing this whole time?

Brandon 42:13

That's a good point. I never thought about that before. Maybe, maybe they get to eat some of the cake at the end. Yeah.

Aaron 42:21

Oh, no. Like the crew does. Like they cuz I remember watching by the things take off. And they're like, yeah, sometimes we don't get to try other people's food because they give it to the the state like the crew. You know, the camera people and like, they just like don't have hours. I mean, yeah, sometimes. Yeah, we don't get to eat like competitors to sometimes like, Oh, that's weird. I don't know.

Brandon 42:47

That's, that's a really good question. Like, why would you watch Iron Chef live? What's the point?

42:52

Yeah. That's really interesting.

Brandon 42:58

Because yeah, it's gonna take a lot more time than just like the hour or whatever. It's on TV. So that is heavily edited. Oh, my gosh, yeah. For mega edited. That's a no no. Are their cue cards tell people know when to tear? Or when to gasp? Because it's like, how do you know what's happening? Because especially with like the Iron Chef or whatever, where there's like three or four people cooking at the same time. Like, how do you know what to be watching the way people react? Well, to give I mean, like the the laugh, right? The last time in like the sitcom taping, right? You know?

Collin 43:36

Do they have something there to notify people like,

Aaron 43:39

react now? Please? Don't know. Yeah, make crowd noise.

Brandon 43:45

indecipherable remember that will badly edit over the top of this? Background Bubble, Bubble bubble.

Collin 43:52

See, that's what I did. Okay, so we need to apply to go see one of these and report in the field.

Brandon 44:00

Yeah, surely, they're just like, surely you have to pay to get into that. I don't like why would you write? Well, but then you get Don't you have to, like pay tickets like to see. But that's for like late night. TV. Yeah, but that's like, entertain. It's like, like a show show. Right? Not not a recording? Yeah. Not like a television recording. It's just like, because those are like live or whatever. So like, you're seeing the music and the jokes that aren't funny. And like the whatever. Like, yeah, the lane of views.

Aaron 44:33

Yeah. The lame interviews of people that I don't know who they are,

Brandon 44:38

because I'm old as your old actually, to be fair, when I was young, I still didn't know how to half those people were saying, look at you never never culturally relevant. Yeah, never because me and my friend would watch it sometimes. And we'd be like, Wait, like it was watched like Letterman right and be like, Who's that? This is what I was like. 19. So I was supposed to do No idea. Right?

Aaron 45:09

Sounds like that was good, though. Yeah, true. And of course,

Collin 45:14

you recommend the American or the British version of the Kitchen Nightmares.

Brandon 45:20

So like, here's the thing like, if you, I will say that the American version is definitely more entertaining, right? Because it is heavily edited to be so sure. But like as far as like an interesting show, like a thoughtful show the British one, right? So what I recommend you just pick one does matter of each one, and just watch them. And the difference is astounding. The other big difference is the British version always has a shot in every episode where Gordon is taking his shirt off to put on his shift jacket. So he's just like standing there shirtless? Yeah, every time. He's like, that's the thing. Yeah, today. This show is like over 10 years old. So it was a much much younger Gordon Ramsay just still. It's like a brief shot. He just like takes off his shirt. And he's like, standing there shirtless, putting on his chef's coat. And then he's like buttoning it up. And that's how you know, and he's like, talking while it's doing this. Like he's like, giving a monologue, right? He's talking to the camera about something that he's gonna do. He's talking about how pathetic lunch was and how he's interested to see how dinner services going right? thing more how much the chef can't actually cook, right? That kind of stuff. Like talking about how, why is everything frozen in this restaurant? Whenever the menu says it's fresh, why are they lying to him? And so what you learned very quickly, also,

Aaron 46:50

from watching this is like, Gordon Ramsay is a chef, right? He's a chef. He's

Brandon 46:57

one of the most famous chefs in the world, right? Is he the best chef in the world? Probably not. But like, he's very famous. And he's very well renowned. But what Gordon Ramsay actually is, is a restaurant tour. That's what he really is. Because he goes in there, and especially in the American version, he will like,

47:20

change the decor.

Brandon 47:23

Right? He will change the theme. Sometimes they'll rename the restaurants like this name sucks. No one knows what that means. We're gonna admit this.

Aaron 47:32

And like, it's usually like,

Brandon 47:36

like, he'll rename it to like the person's last name, you know, something like that. Not nothing like crazy crazy. But like kill redesigned the menu, right? Make the menu smaller, more manageable for the cooks and stuff. But that's what he really is good at is like the detailed AI for how to run a restaurant. Oh, that is what he's

Aaron 47:57

what he's actually masterful app.

Brandon 48:00

So if you sort of watch what he does, like how he redesigns this stuff, and like what he does, and all the things that he talks about, like

48:08

it's not, it's not the like, the cooking,

Brandon 48:14

necessarily. It's like the business of owning a restaurant is like he's like, so passionate in particular, about the business of running restaurants.

Collin 48:24

Well, this is this is very interesting, because what is the one of the major reasons why most small businesses fail? It's, it's not for lack of passion or desire. It's for lack of planning and business acumen. Yeah.

Brandon 48:37

I mean, that's where I mean, that's what this show really highlights, right? Restaurants are a dangerous business to get into. Right? The majority of them don't last a year,

48:47

if you just open a restaurant, right?

Brandon 48:51

And a lot of times on the show, it's people that are like, they worked in restaurant before. And they just decide to open one, or sometimes it's like a person who's like, I have a business degree. And I know about business. I'm gonna buy this restaurant because it'll be good investment. Yeah, but why is nobody coming to my restaurant?

Collin 49:07

Yeah, they don't know how to run a restaurant.

Brandon 49:09

Yeah, right. It's a very, there's very specific things that happen in a restaurant. Aha, that you only know about by working in restaurants

Collin 49:21

and and running a restaurant right now. Real quick, it's it's raining

Aaron 49:26

and thunder you're here and I almost like flip the depth over because it's it's like under so loud. A little bit I have been done that for the past like five seconds and just give me a second.

Collin 49:40

Back Aaron. Well, hello.

Brandon 49:43

Yeah, there's like so many like little tiny detailed minutiae. And that's another thing this shows really good at is like, showing you that stuff. Sure. And it shows you like what they're doing wrong. Right? Because some of it is like common sense but other stuff is like

50:00

Oh, I see.

Brandon 50:03

This is a job. This is he'll talk about like, the front of house like, this is what you need to do. Why are you not doing this, you need to do this blah, blah, he'll talk about that the expediter people, the people that are like the go between between the waitresses and the kitchen staff, right? Like, Hey, where's this order, I need this order for table 10 Blah, blah, blah, there's like this go between mediator between the front Wait, wait staff and cooks staff that is sort of directing traffic. You know, a lot of times people are really bad at that job. And that like sinks the ship in a hurry.

Collin 50:41

Yeah, and that's another thing where someone may have been good at another position. And then was placed in that kind of go between position because it was open, or they thought they had the skills for it or whatever, but weren't really the best at it. But they were there because it needed to be filled.

Brandon 51:01

Yeah. And some of the restaurants are even like, it's like the, the person that's the chef, right? They were a chef and like other restaurants. And there's a couple examples are they're like, actually really good chefs. And they have their like renown. And then they decided to open their own restaurant and be the chef owner. And it's sort of like, just just like, yeah, because it's too it's too much responsibility. Because just because you're like really good at one thing doesn't mean that you can be the owner of the business, right? Like,

Collin 51:35

well, in most most cases, it means you shouldn't be doing that other stuff. Right? Like, it's a it's deciding what what is. Okay? So

51:48

it's like, things that you

Collin 51:50

have to do things that you need to do things that you like doing and things that you don't like doing, and there's overlap for all of them. Yeah, trying to decide like, Okay, what do I need to what should I get off my plate? Or what needs to stay on my plate? I just kind of have to grin and bear it? Because that's my responsibility. Right? Yeah. So I like that delegation of responsibility to people. And you know, sometimes it's like, I'm the owner, I

Brandon 52:14

want or I'm the chef and the owner, and I want to do, you know, I have to make sure like, you become overwhelmed by the burden of having to make sure that everything goes a certain way, that you fail to delegate jobs to other people. That can like help you do stuff so that you can focus on the, you know, cooking,

Aaron 52:33

or like, you know, whatever. So,

Brandon 52:37

it is a very interesting, there are some interesting, like, insights into this, like very nuanced business that you sort of take for granted as a patron of a restaurant, right? So if you only ever, like eat in a restaurant, there's a lot of stuff that you that you'll see that you see in the show, even the shows like 10 years old now, like crazy, but like, still, that you might not know about, like how it works, you know, and they don't even go into a lot of stuff. They talk a little bit about, like ordering and like planning, because he'll go into the fridge and be like, Why do you have 75 of these? What on earth are you doing with your life? Like, yeah, like they have over ordered or they, they over prepped and they have like, way too much food and now, instead of throwing it out, because it's gonna go bad, they're trying to figure out how to save it and use it for stuff. But like, it tastes like garbage because it's been sitting in the fridge for so long, because they screwed up and did whatever it's like.

53:33

Yeah, it's, it's nuts. Well, I

Collin 53:38

listened to an interview of a local restaurant here, where they were talking about how they were trying to get the headache of ordering in the middle of the pandemic and all the supply bottlenecks because they were a they are a barbecue place. And like, you know, the the meats and the butchers and stuff were all like totally wiped out and closed down for for months and months. And they couldn't get any of the brisket or the shoulder or any or the rubber or anything like that to actually do like the smoke. So they they went to actually they were like okay, what are we ordered so that we that we can actually get access to and it was like a lot of chicken and turkey and fish and other things that they that were more readily accessible. But yeah, like if you are over ordering and then going love what we're doing this again tonight because we got to get rid of it. Like when that comes

Brandon 54:37

to you some of it comes in the restaurant. Some of the episodes I specifically it's comes from like the the mismanagement of the fridge and like they don't label stuff appropriately. Right. They don't like even I who only worked in a restaurant as a dish boy.

Aaron 54:56

Am I back Clean, clean and

Brandon 55:02

clean out the walk in whenever we did that, and like unload things off the truck, because I was a young guy something like you get to thing carry this stuff.

Collin 55:14

body won't break,

Brandon 55:15

do this. Well hold on more than that in a second.

Aaron 55:20

But like, oh,

Brandon 55:22

you know, everything in the My manager was like super specific about how to label and date all the boxes that came in. Oh, yeah. And like, how long we've had this? How much of it? Is there where it goes? Is it properly sealed? Is it labeled, like cling wrapped, written on with a sharpie by the law. So you can see everything, like, easily, you know. And it was a pizza restaurant. So in the front, where the pizza guys were making all this stuff every day, they would always seal a label all the ingredients.

55:55

So that they knew it was fresh, right within

Brandon 55:58

the freshness, tolerances of the restaurant, you know, and these restaurants like go to the in there on the show. There's like nothing, it's just a bunch of stuff in the fridge. So there's no labels. And so like, you know, they probably what they did is they had some like stuff in there. And then they like, didn't remember when it was from so they made more, right. And then they like didn't label that either. And so this just sort of snowballing gets out of control. And all of a sudden you have like 47 containers of pasta in a fridge and you like what? What is this for origin? Yeah, yeah, no date origin. So like, you don't know. What the heck is it? Is it the pasta that you prep this morning? Or is it from like, a week ago? Like what? Which one is this container? Right. That's important information.

Aaron 56:49

Yeah. To know this. But like, also,

Brandon 56:59

back to my restaurant experience was that when we were talking about the

Aaron 57:03

lifeguards, right? Oh, right. Right. Yeah. Remember, we're

Brandon 57:08

talking about lifeguards and how as a child, you were like, oh, man, I hope these adults can save me. And they're all like 17. Right? Whenever I worked at this pizza restaurant, I'm pretty sure that no staff

Aaron 57:25

other ventures was over the age of like, 22. Right. Yeah.

Collin 57:38

This is actually very interesting. I have been reviewing a lot of resumes, for people who have applied to be a dog walker or pet sitter. And I will see on the resume where they were list of like, they are a manager at, you know, some restaurant or a manager at Taco Bell or manager at the gas station. And I'll be like, okay, yeah, let's, Okay, sweet. Let me see what we have here. And then I'll look at their birthday. And they're like, 18 And I'm like, Oh, ha.

58:12

Yeah, well, yeah,

Brandon 58:13

it's crazy. Like, oh, I think that's, that's, that's another area where people don't really, like realize how much like, what a large percentage of the staff is, like, under 20 years

58:27

old. In the restaurant industry, like,

Brandon 58:32

just your normal everyday restaurants, you know, especially fast food, but like not just that, like this was like a pizza place. You know what I mean?

Aaron 58:40

Like, what when I was in college, and I worked at Eskimo Joe's it was pretty much the same thing. You know, it's one of those establishments that people worked there for years because it was a good place to work. You know, it was when I was in the kitchen or I was like getting food back because I was a server bartender and bouncer door person, they don't call it mousers anymore. Just sitting there talking to people like all they need to do this for a long time. Like I was crazy. Like, what your college you in, like, high school. It's like, what? Like the line, the line person whose job it is, everything lighted up and everything. They're like, Yeah, and I'm so I'm just a just Junior, like, Okay, what is happening right now. So like that, that was a big thing to kind of see and just, you know, kind of, kind of what you guys talked about, like a few minutes ago of like, we're all people have to go in. I sat in on some of those manager meetings of like, and there was a dude that was younger than me and I was about to graduate college and he was a manager. And he's like, Yeah, you know, we have to do you know, this is Oh, we got to do for this Ebola block, like, a lot more work and I thought it would be fun. I don't know what's your definition of fun is not I definitely have fun. And so like things like that were just always like crazy to me and just be like what all they had to do and budget and plan for and all that. So we had like out of n fo DOS was also different because since they were a bar at a certain time, like they didn't hire servers to be in high school, it was mostly for like college kids. But like, you go down and start talking to people and like, the head host person has been doing it for like, four years and like, oh, yeah, I'm just gonna be a senior this year. And I was like, in college, and I go in high school, like, Oh, my goodness, like, you're doing a better job than me, like you. Like, like any work anywhere else. And they're like, No, my first job. Like, I guess I plan on being here for a while. Oh, my gosh, you see the crazy? Yeah, that's exactly

Brandon 1:00:52

it. It's like not, it's like, everywhere, it's like a thing. So like, it's really weird. Because like, a lot of people like, rag on restaurants, you know, they have like this really high expectation of how things are and like, at some restaurants, yes. Right. Like, yes. But like, just your normal everyday restaurant, like a lot of these people are under 20 years old, right? On your staff. It's like velvet. And, you know, that's like, Yeah, this is crazy, kind of in there are, you know, it's not? I'm not saying it's only like that, but it's a bigger percentage than you think. Right? As I'm saying, like, we have this like idea of people talk about all the time, like, you know, they talk about like the, the minimum wage stuff, you know, it's all like, Oh, these are, you know, they only think about like, that number of people that are like, you know, older and on staff or, you know, all they can do this or whatever. And I remember I was arguing with somebody one time about restaurants stuff. And like, how they need to be open, blah, blah, and all this stuff. It's like, who's the staff at this restaurant? Like, they're half of the half of the staffs in high school, we're talking about trying to change the dynamics of the needs that you're trying to meet, or that that staff that culture. When, when that is who's who's running the business? Yeah. Because they're all young, and they have all these other commitments. And they're like, you know, so I know that around here. A lot of restaurants have trouble staffing in the middle of the day, right, their lunch shift staff is hard, right? Because,

Aaron 1:02:35

yeah, turns out

Brandon 1:02:42

but I mean, that's because it's good jobs, and you can get a lot of good work experience doing it. But like, there is a large

1:02:48

number of skews very young,

Brandon 1:02:51

especially in certain restaurants, not like everything, like your finer dining restaurants or be older people put in like, you know, some of your old timey diners. They're older people there like it's in the name old. Yeah, like,

1:03:06

kidding. Joke people.

1:03:11

It's very interesting.

Brandon 1:03:12

I was thinking about that, throughout my restaurant experience. And I was like, Oh, yeah. Like the whole entire restaurant was run by people like 20 years old or younger.

1:03:23

It's crazy.

Brandon 1:03:27

Like one manager who was older than everybody else in the restaurant was. To call Colin, what are you been doing this week? Oh. Any other exciting things? They?

Collin 1:03:44

Let me just tell you what happened. Okay, the lake. Last Wednesday, last week, we released an episode and a couple people were like, Hey, do you notice, like you having trouble downloading this? We're like, Oh, that's weird. Try this other app. And they're like, oh, yeah, I tried this other app. And it worked. Fine. And then one day, this Sunday, we released an episode. We were really like, yeah, so because Greg and a lot of other

1:04:13

apps, everybody.

Collin 1:04:15

Everybody was like, where's your episode? Why can't I play this episode? What's going on? And I was I have all of the I have, what 15 podcast apps on my phone. And so I was like, in all of them and on my browser and on different browsers, add ons, private mode and on VPN and all this stuff, trying to figure out why can I not listen to our episode, and I was context, seeing our host for it. And radio silence like nothing, I get nothing back. And so we have to make this as kind of like, probably like the second maybe third. This is The biggest thing that has happened, but it's it's a few little Nick's and stuff here and there, where finally I was like, we need to be done with this house, or that or the files, we need to do something else, because this is this is not good. They're not even responding. I don't even know what's going on. And the way that you move podcast hosts is that you go to a new podcast hosting company, and they say, please have your RSS feed. And you copy that to them. And they say, Okay, thank you, all the stuff will be uploaded. And then you can do what's called a redirect where you go back to your old host. And you give the old host, your current RSS feed with from your new host. And then that way, anytime, an app or whatever, with your old RSS feed, tries to get more information, your old host takes them and points them to where your new files for your, for your, where your files are now hosted. Um,

Aaron 1:06:03

that's the way it's supposed to work. slightly complex,

Brandon 1:06:06

but I think I got it. Yeah.

Collin 1:06:09

It's actually extremely simple, because there are like, there's 100 directories, each directory wants access to your RSS feed so that it can pull the episodes and play them for people. And instead of me having to go to each one of those directories and go, here's my RSS, here's my RSS, here's where I can just go to my hosts, click a button, it sends it to all of them. Okay, but I, now when I move hosts, I kind of take out that middle joint. And I upload files to my new host, but my old host doesn't have those. So anytime one of those directories, let's just say, Google goes, Hey, I wonder if there's any episodes, they ping back to your first house and your first house goes, Ah, don't look at me look over here. And it points you to your new host. And they go oh, look, a new file. And then when that when that handshake happens between your old house and your new host, the directory automatically grabs your new RSS feed.

Aaron 1:07:06

Okay, let's automatically happen.

Collin 1:07:10

What instead happened with this was first they couldn't get it because the podcast feed was locked, even though it wasn't. So they had to hack into it, to unlock it on their end, because they're like, oh, send an email to your current host. And I said, they have been radio silent for over 24 hours. They're dead. I don't know what's going on. We need to move on. We'll be doing stuff keep koho like just to stuff. And then they're like, Okay, well, let's hack into this, the hacked and CRSS unlocked it broke it on their end. And they said, Okay, now we can start porting it over to us, it'll should just take a little bit. Well, then they ported everything over. And they were like, Hmm, no audio files came with it. Looks like all of your audio files are corrupted. Could you please send us an audio file so we can upload it to our system? Thankfully, I have saved

Brandon 1:08:02

everything. Everything is good. Yeah.

Collin 1:08:06

I saved it. And I sent them an audio file. And they're like, oh, it looks like this is fine.

Aaron 1:08:11

It looks like

Collin 1:08:13

your old hosts. file that point, a link that points to the audio file is completely broken. We can't pull any of your audio files from your old host. Can you please email them and ask them to fix that? And I went, they've been dead for 36 hours, move. What's my next step?

Brandon 1:08:37

knock on their door guff and go to their house,

Collin 1:08:39

I resorted to the most petty thing a human can do. Facebook, I tweeted my outrage. Ah,

Brandon 1:08:48

man, welcome to the 21st century calm

Collin 1:08:52

and I added them. I added him a aggressive aggressively, or they were like, and nothing. Okay, and so now I am like, what are my options? And they're like, Well, if you can't get access to the feed, you have to manually import everything. And I was like, Well, I better get started. And so for the last two days, and I am still working on it. I am importing all of my audio hurt my audio files into the new host. So that they can start it because I have to get everything set in the new host before I set that redirect. So when apps and directories start asking for it. I can show them over there. So right now, for the past almost, you know, last three days everyone has been pinging everything, you know, trying to get access to the show and hasn't been able to download anything. And my old host has not responded at all, nothing that they've responded. And so I have had to upload everything and it's been kind of nice because I actually have found some errors going through this of like, oh, that's the wrong room the dresser okay need to fix that. Fixing this all this stuff but there's so many other things that bro like each episode that I upload for both oh brother and the other podcast

1:10:25

I give a unique

Collin 1:10:29

show art of like a photo of that shows up if you're if your podcast player supports that if you look at it while you're listening to this, you will see a photo that is not the old brother, album art. Hey, those two dancing, apparently what my old host did, it didn't matter what file name, I uploaded a folder an image as it renamed that to cover dot jpg. Oh, and then hashed it so that it knew, Okay, this one I've read which episodes point went to it points to that specific episode. However, when I exported that everything, it's exported it with covered dot jpg and none of the metadata. So none, none of my match. And the new system needs unique names or the files for cover images. And so it is just randomly populating pictures across all of my efforts. How exciting. And I, every time I delete them, it's adding them back. So I'm I did have to I was like hi support. I don't know what I need to happen you. I need to default just default everything to one image.

1:11:54

Do this Oh bad.

Collin 1:11:57

Oh my gosh. And then I've learned to relearn like all of the back end, all the all the other systems. And I'm discovering that, like, I have a weird workflow. And I'm not happy with the web that I'm currently like. But other other podcast host big platform. Besides the fact it's just completely broken. It fit my brain, the way I work. Like that's one of the reasons why I liked it was the workflow, what features that had, it was wonderful. And no other podcast host that I have found works like it. And it annoys me that now I'm having to go away from it. It turns out, there's a reason for that, after all, like, here's one thing, like whatever, like, every other big podcast hosting platform that everyone loves, is trying to do everything. So they're like, oh, we'll be your website builder. And we'll be your sponsor finder. And we'll be your monetization platform. And we'll be your social destination scheduler, and we'll do all of this stuff for you. So you just have to click one button, and all this stuff comes together. And as previously discussed another episode. I don't like putting all of my eggs in one

Brandon 1:13:15

basket. Yes, this sounds familiar. Yes.

Collin 1:13:19

So it's like, oh, big mega corporation who bought smaller company to become ultra mega corporation? Sure. I don't want to also use your ad manager and your campaign manager and your social media platforms. And you're like, No, because when I need to rip the guts out of this because you fail me. I don't want to have to go scrambling to piece everything together. So this other one was just so hands off. So just like you want a podcast, here's how you're going to podcast, it will step out of your way. Everything else is like, do you want to add this? Hey, hey, good. Come, you know, here's some candy and we'll give you this is just like a step away from me. No, hands off people hands off, right, like hands off my listeners, hands off the sponsors. Stop touching it. Leave me alone. And like, oh, man, and then some platforms are like, oh, man, we've got this automatic thing that'll like, super change your audio to make it sound really super great. And it's like, well, but I don't want that. It's like, oh, but we offer it and everybody loves it. I'm like, Stop touching my audio. Right? Like I'm I did it the way I wanted it to. What are you doing? And what was the other one? Oh, it was? Oh, they were bragging about their? One podcast hosting platform now does podcast editing. But the only way to edit it isn't a web browser hearing. Do you need access to the internet to edit a podcast? And I'm like, why would you do that?

1:15:00

What are you even doing?

Collin 1:15:03

I just the assumptions. I found out real odd. I'm a bit particular about things. And I kind of liked them the way they and I don't I don't like people meddling and touching things. And so I've, so I over the course of like 36 hours. I mean, I've said, hundreds and hundreds of emails to support. And I kind of got my hand slapped, because

Aaron 1:15:29

I thought, Oh,

Collin 1:15:31

I sent my initial question to them. That was like, help me import this, I'm having a problem. But then as I hunt and peck around, I'm like, Oh, why? I have other questions. And so what did I do? Well, I opened a new Help Request ticket for that question. Because it's, it's not pertinent to my initial question, right? Yeah,

Brandon 1:15:54

no, but Denise, I'll be in one because it's the same person. Next, oh, my gosh,

Collin 1:15:58

I got my hand slapped so hard. And I was like, I was like, okay,

1:16:03

just so that we're very clear.

Collin 1:16:06

The person who's helping me with with importing, you also want me to direct the question to him about why the branding featured isn't changing the color on the podcast page, but not the podcast website that you're hosting for me? And why the contrast color is auto generating a color that is hideous and doesn't work? So you also want me to answer address the question to him about what whether I can change the font on the podcast page? Because what is currently there cannot be read by any human alive or dead? Are you are you really want me to address all of these same questions while I'm pestering him while the direct isn't working? Like like, Okay, I will. So as I was hunting and pecking, I would just fire off emails to him. I wasn't, I could not wait for him to just respond one at a time. Um, I just had to get these questions off. And so he would send me a response with like, eight bullet points of my question and the answers to each of them. And I, this was fine. Except that he stopped, he wouldn't answer some questions, or they'd fall off, which is why I liked the individual ticket idea, because then I could keep track of them. And I would know what was getting answered and unanswered. But that's not what they wanted.

Brandon 1:17:18

Well, you have it on there. And that'd be if every single person did that, that'd be 7 billion tickets to look at. And if, however, we're going to the same prison anyway, that's, that's pretty much

Collin 1:17:30

I kind of get it. But again, like, the question that I have about onboarding and thing is also not related at all, or in any reason to why whenever I do, I drag and drop the audio file does the top of the screen jitter up and down such that I can't click into the episode title to select the auto generated title so that I can delete it and type something else. And I have to wait for it to stop moving.

1:17:56

Like, yeah, but like,

Brandon 1:17:57

this guy is also like website support. And so like, I can't imagine a vast number of these questions having to go to different

1:18:08

people. Right? Like,

Brandon 1:18:13

I'm imagining that a lot of them. There may be a couple.

Aaron 1:18:18

But I, I'm pretty sure. He could probably do all of it. I'm sure

Collin 1:18:27

he can as well, it just, it doesn't fit my brain just not

Brandon 1:18:31

the speed at which you want it done.

Collin 1:18:33

Not shiny. Not even that it's the it's the it doesn't make sense. This like I am capable of having different conversations for like, of like, I have so many I have a firehose of questions. And it's actually easier for me to keep them separated in different text channels, than have them all in one column. Like, I genuinely want to know why, why on earth podcast people, when I upload an audio file, I get a little little flag that pops over my browser that says success updated. The exact same update, when I hit publish, it comes across and says, success updated, and nothing changes about the website. Why is that upset? Why is that message the same? Two different actions were done. One should say

1:19:21

publish, success published. Tell me

Collin 1:19:25

anyway, that doesn't need to go to the same channel as

Brandon 1:19:28

upset. It's been updated to published

Collin 1:19:33

like that, that needs to be in a different conversation for the like, deep technical questions of why the stats tracker that I'm asking you to put in isn't working and you're having to remove the underscores like, why like, so I'm having to have a conversation with the gentleman both about why the update tag is the exact same that pops up in the upper right hand corner of the website, while also asking, Why does the stats tracker that I've been using for the past three and a half years not work for years? estimate. Please explain that to me like, Well, I

Brandon 1:20:03

mean, the first question is the answer. The first question is the website was coded such that there is one message for everything. Because trying to have different message there was, it's probably just faster and easier to do it that way. There should let's be real. That's the reason. That's the reason why, because it's easier to code it that way. Instead of having to code different pop up responses to different actions that you take, but they're different act, right. The real reason is, it's easier, because it's easier. I know, that's the real reason,

Collin 1:20:34

it's easier. The other thing I want to know is I solved it, why when I'm uploading an audio file, and it's loading to two little icons that asked me to add episode artwork, slash like they're having a rave in the lower right hand corner, like uncontrollably. And then as soon as the upload is stopped, they stopped flashing. Is that a me browser is? Fine. Is that like, what? I've tried it in multiple browsers? And none of them? Like they all do that.

Aaron 1:21:02

Anyway?

Brandon 1:21:06

I don't know. I feel like I feel like

1:21:11

out of the

Brandon 1:21:12

list of problems that you're currently having that one is probably like at the bottom of the list. So I think you can

Collin 1:21:22

I can process it. Because what do I have left? The problem I have now has been solved by me uploading the file, right? I can plug and chug, and I've got 17 tab browser tabs open in the browser. And I'm just dragging and dropping checking the files against the other. My website, right? I'm doing that. Meanwhile, what am I doing? I'm clicking buttons and going What are social settings? What's the like? Here's oh, what's, what's the difference between website legacy and podcast page and podcast website? Who knows? There's no documentation on that. Did you search the knowledge base? Of course I did. Every every question every word keyword I could think of about website legacy web page, pod paid podcast page. Nothing pops up. That's why I'm asking you. Helpful tech support. Explain the difference today.

1:22:11

Like oh my gosh,

Brandon 1:22:14

Aaron, Aaron, I think he's going crazy. I think I think he's finally broken.

Collin 1:22:19

It's not that art. Ah,

1:22:22

I think it sounds like owning a business just in general. Just difficult.

Collin 1:22:29

I mean, this isn't any part of owning a business. This is kind of like, kinda like when, anyway, we won't get into this. I'm right. That's what I've Oh, dear.

1:22:43

orginally, like, like

Collin 1:22:44

branding, oh, this is the most annoying thing is like I went in to change the branding to match the podcast colors and everything. I had to choose a theme of font line gradient, whatever, changed all that. And I checked the webpage that was supposed to be a check. Sorry, I checked my podcast page, nothing had changed. So I asked tech support, amongst other questions. Why did this not update? He said, Oh, the branding doesn't impact your podcast page. So I screen grabbed the part of branding that says custom brand and settings for your podcast page. And I sent that to him. And I said, please explain what this does. And he was like, Oh, I guess it does. I was like, ah,

1:23:25

ah, except for when it does.

Collin 1:23:27

When it doesn't, not forgetting this. kidding us. So anyway, that's fun. That that's been I've been doing since Tuesday. I've seriously like, hundreds of emails. And then each time you have a question, they're like, oh, we can't handle that. But you should call this other people, which is another company that we bought. And I'm like, No, not doing that. Doing.

Brandon 1:23:56

Sounds like the real answer to Collins problems.

1:23:59

Is Teddy Roosevelt. Yes. busting up the trust's

1:24:05

man Brown. Get out of here with your conglomerates, smashing them back into small

Brandon 1:24:12

individualized companies with mistake. That's what we need. Well, here's more Teddy Roosevelt.

Collin 1:24:18

here's the here's the most annoying part. Okay, the podcast company, okay. And now I'm seriously done and then we'll go to bed. Okay, I guess company that I'm going with that we're going with it's like, like one that's been around since 2005 and blah, blah. Everyone likes it and whatever.

Brandon 1:24:32

I don't like everyone except Colin.

Collin 1:24:33

I don't like the back end. I have three buttons here that I'd never want to see. Why do I can I turn off the alerts for events? Why am I being invited to a webinars by my podcast hosting company get away from me, because they

Brandon 1:24:47

want you to know how to expand your market. They want to they want

Collin 1:24:54

they want to convince me to use more of their paid services from the companies that they bought so they can justify the

1:24:58

shareholders. point point. Here's my point. But yes, Dave plus

Collin 1:25:03

thing over here called advertise cast. Sorry, that'll give it away whoever used advertised cast, I had a question to support. This is, hey, I currently have advertisers. In my old podcast host company, I could set up campaigns for each of them that I could turn on and off as they sponsored, so I could track statistics for each one of them. And they were okay. Like, they said, Oh, we want to we want to sponsor you for three months. So I could go Yeah, I could create something that says, you know, summer sponsorship to July, August. And then I could look at the stats for that and report that back out to the people. That was an inbuilt thing that I thought was super cool. Okay, this one, they don't have integration. But what they will do is they'll go, oh, we bought advertised cast. They'll find you a sponsor? And I'm like, no, no,

Brandon 1:25:54

I have one.

Aaron 1:25:57

And they're like, Oh, well, we can't do anything with that.

Collin 1:26:02

But you can, why don't you list your podcast on here and find a sponsor? And I'm like, no, no, I

Aaron 1:26:08

have them. And they're like, Oh, okay. Or like,

Collin 1:26:13

Patreon, Patreon is a big, big thing, where a lot of people can do direct support a podcast, this, this company, this podcast, bought a Patreon competitor to any question that you have about Patreon, which is, which is a, which is widely used my Oh, yeah. My other podcast host had a feature where you could link the to your Patreon to your feed and go, Oh, only publish this directly to my Patreon supporters. Yeah, because people use Patreon for exclusive content, all sorts of things. And then I could go into Patreon. And I could also give them, you know, discounts or whatever, or the monthly meet up or whatever. And any questions whose letter even Yeah, even even if they if he mentioned the word Patreon. They're like, Oh, we don't integrate Patreon. We have our own company, and that you can use and you'll need to answer all questions to them. And this is where I got really ticked off.

1:27:08

Because I

Brandon 1:27:11

Adriatic, right. It's

Collin 1:27:12

like they said, contact this company's support, contact this company's meeting. It sounds like it's third party, right? It's not I contacted help at company. name.com.

1:27:24

Lipson,

Collin 1:27:24

I'm sorry. Scratch that, cause, yeah. My podcast host support person contacted me about that inquiry. They are doing support now for this other company. Yes. Because they own it. Now. They own it. It's infuriating.

Brandon 1:27:42

That's pretty awful.

Collin 1:27:43

It's infuriating. So you're think you're talking to all these third parties, but you're not you're just talking back to the company through the front of this is the kind of thing that just burns me where it's like, Get out of my way. Let me choose who to use integrate, because what they are Yeah, that's fair, that choice for you? And going no, no, don't use these other things. We, you can't actually integrate with these other things. You, if you want some of those features, you must use what we've decided you should use for you.

Brandon 1:28:11

That's weird. I, first of all, who bought the Patreon competitor thinking they could do something with it. Right? Like, come on. That's just bad business. Right? You don't need that. Right? There's, like, I understand, trying to like broaden the market and market share and all that nonsense,

Aaron 1:28:36

but there's clearly one service that everyone knows about and wants to use. So what on earth? Are you thinking about buying a competitor?

Brandon 1:28:56

That and the reason you bought it is because it was failing? Yeah, let's be clear. It wasn't for sale because it was doing well. Right? And you think people want to use that instead of the thing that they already are using? Probably not coming? Get out of here.

Collin 1:29:15

That's the thing. Like we have some wit there some supporters that use it to support a myriad of other things. Yeah, people, and they're already on it. And now you're going to ask me to, like, integrate with this bespoke one off where my people are gonna have to have another login and another thing to manage and another thing to check. Yeah, no, no, stop like so. This is this that's where I get so frustrated is because the companies have decided they want to be the everything right? They don't want just to be your hosting because that's boring and they can't make a lot of money at that. So all these other things I'm talking about this advertise thing, this Patreon thing, oh, they also build you a custom website. All of those are things that they have bought and now are selling friction services to you, obviously. And, sure, if you go all in, will it work? Great? I don't know, probably not. Because there are three companies trying to integrate into one company and whatever. They're putting it all together for you. And basically like, no, no, we have all of it. And then

Aaron 1:30:21

you have to decide, like,

Collin 1:30:25

they're just doing it for you, and they're losing focus. And that's then you, as the creator of the person aren't able to actually go and do other stuff outside of that, because they make it harder to integrate. And like now. So trying to find a host that's like, reliable, that's going to be around for a long time. And also is not trying to become a global conglomerate, or everything is almost impossible at this point. None of the ones that are reliable, are highly praised. They're all highly praised from 510 years ago, before they got on to growing and trying to get into all this other crap and bloat, which, again, is why I liked this other host, because they just said, We're host period. And here's some simple tools that you might that that can help you, except for dictate how, yeah, except for actually working.

Brandon 1:31:13

So far, they have no, no support. Zero.

Collin 1:31:18

Yeah. So again, again, I have to recognize I have all these complaints, with the big caveat that my other host is just not working. True. So

Brandon 1:31:30

I wonder where they're located. And I wonder if they're like server bank or something like blew up or like, that's, that's if it's in California, if it just like burned down? Right, like, oh, well, you see, we had this server building, and it's on fire. So

Collin 1:31:50

I don't know, I'm, again, oh, it's in it's so frustrating. Because the other thing is, is that people just say, Oh, just use them use the new host. And it's like, with what? For what, I can't go through my entire workflow of publishing an episode with no episodes if we True. True, like, it's like, no problem, just like, get a free trial and hunt around. It's

Brandon 1:32:17

like, honestly,

Collin 1:32:18

what I'm looking at right now, had I been able to see this back end during a free trial, I'm would not be very impressed, given the limited range and arrangements of stuff that they have, like, there's no labels, I can't like in order to see what a button does. It's just an icon, you have to physically hover over it to get more information. I'm sorry, what? I live in the world of computers, you can label stuff

Brandon 1:32:44

like, no, no, you have to go with like, weird esoteric and carded 97 feature that covering with good ABA here with that, what is that? That's not what he wants to hover about? Come on, it's what

Collin 1:32:58

I'm saying just doesn't make any sense. So they don't, you know, they don't get what they get. They have focused on other things like, Oh, now we must be, we must provide services to you and help you be a wonderful content creator. And I'm just like, not like, again, just just I just want you to host my that's all I want. I also want you to host my files and just stop it. I'm already doing all that other stuff. Go? No, I know. They're like, Oh, but isn't it annoying that you see these pitches? And like, Isn't it annoying to have all these other things that have to It's like, No, I actually liked that. Because then as soon as one decides to, you know, kick the bed, I can just plug in something else and keep tripping in my own direction. And I don't have to worry about uprooting everything. So I'll never click these four buttons over here on the left of my dashboard. Social destinations, advertise membership, and website. And can I get rid of them? Can I choose to hide them? No, they're there permanently.

1:34:01

Oh, you know, until you switch hosts next year.

Collin 1:34:09

Well, you know, now that I'm doing all this manual labor to put all this stuff in, I'm kind of like, you know what? Maybe I maybe once I, I've cleaned up everything. Maybe I do just do another redirect in a month and get to figure something else out the next year. So

Brandon 1:34:25

Colin, launching his own hosting site soon. Me. Watch out for that.

Collin 1:34:32

2020 Never. No.

Brandon 1:34:37

No, here here you go to leave you on a happy note, Colin. Yeah, because you need some good news in your life. Yeah. I need you. I feel like it's important to tell you it is in fact Shark Week this week. Oh, yeah, we missed it. Okay, so, think about sharks. Think about happiness. We've got to discover. What we have to do. We're really here is I've seen some of the people that have on on the host You can check we are we have to come up with a concerted effort online campaign to get ourselves out of the truck think about what we've got. I'm thinking I don't know what we can do. I think we could I don't know maybe we should investigate bull shark activity the Mississippi River. How exciting with that

Collin 1:35:20

I think we need to go ahead and link stuff up together Yeah, I think we just need to go on site and do our take on shortcakes podcasters and that's there we go. There we go. Got

Brandon 1:35:36

it. So I just wanted to bring bringing some happiness there are sharks about

1:35:41

right. Very exciting. I will tell you

Brandon 1:35:46

Shark Week this year still does love that stationary over direct overhead drone shot right of the boat not as much as it did last year at last year it was insufferable was ridiculous to get out of here with like every single show had the same shot of like the drone directly like 100 feet above the boat looking straight down at stop it we still have that but it's less so that's good news. We've

1:36:16

evolved a little bit

Brandon 1:36:19

so pretty good. Pretty good science quota on this year shark week as well. I will say in the past

Collin 1:36:30

last year I think I was very cross about the ridiculousness level it was happening this year is pretty good so far. So see it's a challenge challenge next week we'll put together our own Shark Week episode. Yeah, audio Aaron.

Brandon 1:36:47

Aaron dream Shark Week What are you exploring for

Collin 1:36:50

sharks

Aaron 1:36:57

I always thought it was cool and they did like the catatonic thing. Like shark down. And so that for I was always a big fan of that one show that like they always had like, like a bait boat. And they would like Luer like a great white shark off like the platform. And then like they would lift up the platform so you can see like how big the shark was.

Brandon 1:37:25

That was I remember that episode. That was crazy.

1:37:30

I want to do that

Brandon 1:37:32

as a good one. Go

Collin 1:37:34

for your shark. week

Brandon 1:37:36

they go to Pages double spaced. Wow. Thanks. MLA format, right time zero minute internet citation.

1:37:44

Oh no, the

Collin 1:37:45

rest books No. Wikipedia please visit the local library or the school library

1:37:54

librarian about appropriate resources

Collin 1:37:56

in reference to determine whether something is reputable or not. Okay, we'll do this.

Brandon 1:38:06

All right. Now it's also possible. Another challenge I think we should do. Favorite shark movie not named jaws.

Collin 1:38:17

Okay, well, that'll be that'll be the actual talent shark movie not named Jaws because that could be a good Shark Week set of true to discuss

Brandon 1:38:30

what that's really right up our alley anyway. Yeah,

Collin 1:38:32

this was really okay to challenge next week. Our favorite shark moving not named Jaws don't get air Yeah, I'm gonna get to me.

1:38:44

Okay. All right.

Collin 1:38:45

Just one or do we need to come up with like, a listicle of like, top five not

Brandon 1:38:53

well think about that one on tax. We'll see how that goes. Our super secret tip. Yes.

Collin 1:38:57

Okay. Got it. Okay. That closer up. All right. Love you guys.