if you have bagpipes
We’re tired of the heat. Brandon wonders about forklift certification. Collin has memories of library databases.
If you have bagpipes
Entrenched second summer
Silly curtain rod holders
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Remakes…
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SPEAKERS
Brandon, Collin
Collin 00:04
Welcome to Oh, brother, a podcast of three brothers trying to figure it all out. Is your host, Brandon, Colin. Aaron. On this week's show, if you have bagpipes. Oh boy.
Brandon 00:20
Oh boy. How's it going? Good.
Collin 00:26
I am recording from office prior. So thanks, though, you know, so that tells you things are going well.
Brandon 00:33
Oh, yeah. I wonder what sort of strange instrument will come walking down the street?
Collin 00:42
Oh my god. No, hopefully.
Brandon 00:46
Is your quartet just out for all evenings that,
Collin 00:48
you know? I I still I still it's still very confusing. It's still very confusing. I Megan was like, oh, maybe they were Megan is thoroughly convinced that they were practicing.
Brandon 01:05
I mean, so if if you own a bagpipe,
01:11
right, and you want to practice, okay, in the evening, right. You can't do it in your house. Yeah, because
Brandon 01:25
all of your neighbors or neighbors will become very cross. And there's a bunch of houses on the other side of that road that goes back across.
Collin 01:30
Right. So yes, and there are a lots of apartments as well. Yeah. So I imagine
Brandon 01:39
dude, trying to get in some bagpiper empty. Just goes, You know what? If I go stand by these offices, and this factory, people aren't going to be like, oh, man, the bagpipes are too
Collin 01:53
bright. Right? Like who will I be disturbing? Yeah,
Brandon 01:56
the factory security gate guy. Like,
Collin 02:00
he's not cool with it be like, yeah, yes. Right. Exactly. Yeah, the people over there at craft are probably like, Okay, well, now I have something fun to do at least. So this is,
Brandon 02:11
right. This is like, I feel like maybe that could be why, like, well, I want to play my bagpipes. But I can't do it in my house right now. Because you know, my neighbors or my you know, maybe they have a kid who's like asleep and there's like a hub. What if I go stroll
Collin 02:25
down by these offices? And this factory, then it'd be fine. Maybe that's what he was doing? Yeah, I think it was the fact that there were two people out walking together that made it a little more like unless the omit maybe there was the tutor
Brandon 02:44
for safety. Right? You can't go walking around with bagpipes by yourself. Right? It's an offensive instrument. Some people will get really they don't like backpacks right and they might like take out their anti bagpipe aggression on you. And so you need a wing man. Right. Should the wing man had been having playing some drums or perhaps tin whistle? Yes, but yes, you know that
Collin 03:09
maybe that maybe that maybe that was the second night that we're going to be out doing that this time was just focused on the bagpipes to make sure that he had the the park down.
Brandon 03:19
Yeah, you know, making sure that bellows are bellowing in the shatters were chanting I don't really know how the
Collin 03:31
Yes, I don't
Brandon 03:32
know. Maybe. Yeah, that's a valid theory. I feel like there's a valid point.
Collin 03:37
Right. So it's all right now anyway, so yes, that is that is that that's going on? It's been a warm, cool, sunny, overcast day. So
Brandon 03:53
it was hot today. What are you talking about? It was stupid hot. This is I this is what I was trying to avoid with September in my life, right like
Collin 04:00
oh,
Brandon 04:02
it's gonna be just you know, like, oh, it's not too bad. It's like fall now. Right again, right after fall started. Like almost 90 degrees that get out of here. So what are you doing?
Collin 04:18
It was well it was to take was today was weird because there was overcast and cool this morning. And then it got not overcast and very hot. And then later this afternoon for us, at least, if Ben got overcast and
Brandon 04:32
rained a little bit. It didn't rain here. It did get more overcast this evening, though. I noticed but it's not raining. So that's again a missed opportunity here. For two is more not being fall, right like Oh, yes. Will it be cooler and rain?
Collin 04:52
Nope. Just kidding.
Brandon 04:55
I don't know why we have this fall. Why? Are you hiding from me like this fall? It's not nice. No, we're second summer
Collin 05:04
is really having a hard yeah, leaving is
Brandon 05:07
is bad one.
Collin 05:08
Is that good? Very entrenched. Yes. It's distressing is what it is
05:19
just won't fall
Brandon 05:19
I just want to be like, Oh, yes,
Collin 05:21
I will wear this flannel shirt to
Brandon 05:23
workday. Nope. Not gonna happen. And this is, this is
Collin 05:27
why every year I go through this period of like two weeks once this once this time it gets like one second summer to truly goes away. My body has not yet adjusted and my brain does not remember that it is false, because I'm pretty sure it's still second summer. Yeah, this is why I like I leave the house early in the morning in only like a T shirt and shorts. And then that by 10 o'clock. I'm going it's still really cold actually. Yeah.
Brandon 05:53
Like now like it is right now. Yeah, it's in the 60s in the morning now, right? Which isn't too bad. But then it's getting to like the mid 80s. And day. So it's like mad. So if you leave the house and a T shirt shorts, like your, your dressing for the future, right? Yes will be warmer. Yeah,
Collin 06:08
I dressed for the weather I want. And the problem is, is that at some point, it stops warming up and it just stays cold. And my my brain doesn't remember that until I'm like, well into my day and going, Oh, right. I were
Brandon 06:23
using to death like
Collin 06:27
and it legit happens every year. And I just I just have to experience I had to go through it. I have to be angry at myself. And then I start remembering to take the jacket but there's a there's a period of time
Brandon 06:39
where it just doesn't work. I'm at the period of the year where I want to take a jacket. And I can't because like I want to because I'm like it's fall. I should be wearing a jacket. But I can't wear a jacket because it's too hot. It's stressing right now I want so badly to will follow the habit
Collin 06:58
but may right. Well yeah, and and I have like we are ordering company hoodies. I'm very excited about these. Don't need them. Apparently. I don't need them right now. My brain will be like Kaleido dad at all. What are you crazy? And then I'll be sitting there because all this usually happens as I'm sitting in my car and I had that last second of like, Should you go back and grab coat and then my brain like no, it's fine. It's gonna warm up late. And then it doesn't know. Right now right now I'm fine. Like,
Brandon 07:35
are you still okay? That's where you're right? That's uh huh.
Collin 07:44
Oh, man. Yeah, we haven't a busy
Brandon 07:50
week. Right? Yeah. Things Every day, every day, every day every day. It's
Collin 07:54
like, Oh, good. Good things.
Brandon 07:56
I mean, yes, yes. It's fine things right. It's okay. I like it yesterday. Okay, so what is today's Wednesday? Right. So Monday, we didn't have kids at school. Right? It was like a teacher in service day, you know?
Collin 08:11
Yeah. And so like,
Brandon 08:15
Monday was okay, because I got to, right, so the teacher in Service Day this year, focusing on the five pillars
Collin 08:23
of reading instruction.
Brandon 08:29
So, you know, that's cool at all. And that's really good.
Collin 08:32
But, um, I teach science. Yeah. So I was like,
Brandon 08:41
stay for this. And she was like, no, like, ah, run, like, ran away as fast as possible. And I tell you what, my co teach one of my friends other teacher in sixth grade, right? She had to be there because she's that
Collin 08:57
teacher, you know? And
Brandon 09:01
she was like, Oh, it was so long because he was in there for like hours, right? Like most of the day they were doing these meetings and she was all like, oh, blah this was so long and uh, and I have tried really hard not to tell her like I got so much stuff done today I felt really guilty but I was like, I did so much work. Today you have no idea the amount of things I have successfully accomplished today right like I remade assignments. I like reconfigured my quiz and my study guide and my stuff right I did like this other made like whole other thing, right? It was a whole I did all get graded all this stuff. I like reviewed a bunch of this data that I have, like I've made everything I made a poster like anchor chart thing from a wall though, like I did. Wow. All kinds of things. And she was like Oh, we didn't get anything done today. I was like, Oh, yeah. Me neither.
10:06
So slammed
Brandon 10:08
so much. Yeah, I went over and helped the high school music teacher raised the back wall of their musical set thing because she sent emails like, Hey, anybody not doing anything at this time? Would you please come over to help do this? So I grabbed the math teacher was like, Hey, I'm not going over there. You won't come. She was like, Yeah, sure. So we went over there. She didn't have to go to meeting either because you know, she's done math teacher. And so we da makes even less sense for her to go to that reading instructional and service.
Collin 10:38
So we went over there. It's basically like, imagine a barn raising but lighter. Okay, that's what we did. Was Hey, I'm tracking.
Brandon 10:52
Yeah, I was like, yeah, like a barn raising. And they all went. What? Like, you guys never seen guys need to watch more TV. Okay.
Collin 11:02
Yeah, it was one of those things. Right. It was like all my shows or whatever. Like, yeah, that's, I got I got so much stuff done. credible. So bad, because my friend was like, oh, it's meeting so long. Yeah, it's terrible. They do? Yeah. All right.
Brandon 11:29
But then, like, yesterday, all right, minding my own business at the end of the day, and like, all these high schoolers coming in room, like, why are you here? And they threw this baseball jersey at me. So I was once again selected as an important staff member to go attend a baseball high school baseball game. Ah, wearing the jersey of somebody, which is really cool. It really also was like, Yo, when that's really great, dude, when is it? He's like tonight?
Collin 11:56
Oh, bro,
11:57
what are you doing to me? No. Will you eat the night?
Collin 12:01
Yeah, he's like, get to five. It was like, my guy. Could.
Brandon 12:07
I mean, this is really cool. But I know we didn't have school yesterday, or like,
Collin 12:12
come on any
Brandon 12:14
two hours. So I had to go back. I went back last night to the baseball game. Okay. And then there's all that right. And I have to go tomorrow. Back to school because my Well, I'm not going to leave school. I guess.
Collin 12:25
My children are playing basketball. Oh, I need to go there. Because
Brandon 12:34
I told them, I'll try to get at least one. Tomorrow's a home game. So I figured, well, if I just do it this week, I will have met my obligation.
Collin 12:43
It I shouldn't say because I was there. You saw me an early. Yeah.
Brandon 12:49
But it's all that and in the midst of all of this.
Collin 12:52
My friends are moving. All right. And so we've been assisting with the moving of stuff. Right? So we went over there I guess Monday,
Brandon 13:08
we went over to the old house Monday there's moving like across town. It's not like a very far distance. Right? There's moving across town. Like a bigger house and stuff. newer, bigger, more stuff, right? So little over there. We help them carry all this stuff, right? Monday night. These Cool. Load up watch cars. Take care of your house, blah, blah. Yesterday, we could not help because we were doing
Collin 13:35
the baseball game. Right. It was meant to baseball.
Brandon 13:37
But then tonight we went back over there and helped them like unpack and then I was tasked with curtain rod hanging Kablammo line was hanging all the curtains and trying to fix their table and all Hadza like that. So that's what I was doing tonight. I was hanging all the way 121236
Collin 13:56
rods maybe curtain rods I put up. So what I did stay, and I have some thoughts for you about curtain rod holders. Oh boy.
Brandon 14:21
There are some of these are so badly designed.
Collin 14:24
They should be illegal. Right? Okay. I don't know who made these. But that
Brandon 14:32
there? I don't that it's terrible. It's terrible design. Right? It's terrible. So the curtain rod, right? It's usually like a little L bracket. And then on the other end it has a like a U shaped cutout where the curtain rod sits. You know, maybe a C shape is more apt. Right? You have this L and then there's an inverted C on the other end where the correct rod sits in you know.
Collin 14:55
Yeah, yeah. The problem is if you have the This inverted C shape hangs down in front of the bracket. So if you're trying to screw in these rods with a drill, it is not possible. No, you cannot do it. Or you can kind of start it right, you have to like
Brandon 15:19
turn it sideways and like kind of angle it so you can get the drill in there and you can start it but you can't finish seeding the screw, and you can't really see it well with a screwdriver,
Collin 15:30
either, because the thing is still in the way. Yeah. Right, you can do the bottom one just fine. Because it's low enough.
Brandon 15:41
Right? But that top one is like right in the corner of the L. And there is no way
Collin 15:46
to access this at all. I don't know why they do this. Okay, she had one set of curtains that have
Brandon 16:00
the by far superior solution, right, which is they have the big circle, and then it has the notch cut out in the top.
Collin 16:08
You know, so it looks like a
Brandon 16:10
lot of room that looks like but it's like a circle with like a little notch cut in the top of it. So you can just screw the screw into the wall. And then set the curtain rod on the screw. These are a man they drilled the bottom? Yes, this is the only acceptable method of curtain rod installation. Biting with some of these other words, like I don't know why this should be like mandatory industry standard practice of curtain rod design because all of the other ones take forever and you can actually affix the curtain rod to the wall with any meaningful like vigor because it just won't heightened enough. Right. It's
Collin 16:57
ridiculous. Yeah, I don't. I don't understand. It's horrible. Well, those ones are good. But all the rest of them I guess I don't know why it's so bad. So hard. I have yet to figure out exactly how they intend you to, to put those on because it for a while. I was like, oh, maybe because we have we have our curtain rods are like that. So I was like, Okay, well, maybe what you're supposed to do is you're supposed to flip the bracket upside down and then attach it and screwed in and then flip it over and try to fit but but but you can't because it's all equidistant from each other. So like yes.
Brandon 17:34
I mean, it kind of works at the beginning, because there's enough space between the wall and the screw head that it like, tilts. Uh huh. And you can get it started. But you have to finish seeing it with a hand screwdriver.
Collin 17:45
Yeah. Which is not fun.
Brandon 17:50
I mean, it's not a big deal because it's not like a big long screw. Right.
Collin 17:53
But still, like that's why I have a drill. That's what it's for. Drilling. I'm supposed to not have to do this. Yeah,
18:05
I was good boy, though. I
Collin 18:06
measured right. Measured, right seated.
Brandon 18:11
The made equal measurements, little my little lines that I put my bracket up on the wall and I pencil mark that and then I pre drilled the holes, you know, so I would have a good lion and lineup is very
18:24
professional. It's very lovely. Right? Yes. But, you know, trying to make
Brandon 18:28
dad proud here, right? Doing all this nice stuff. I
Collin 18:31
don't want his reputation ruined. But ya know, all
Brandon 18:33
right, got it all on. Tape. Nursing, right? Got it all lined out. And today, it's all straight and everything you know, but exceeding those orders is impossible. Right? It's terrible. The second runner up is contest, right, there's another one that's like a that she had I don't have any of these in my house. Right, there's one where the bracket looks like
Collin 19:01
a letter a kind of.
Brandon 19:04
So you have a letter A and then you turn it on its side. And you set the feet against the wall. And then the little hook is at the end, right? Except for it's not a it's like one of those weird font A's where the top is parallel to the wall, and then the bottom goes at a diagonal.
Collin 19:25
Right? Not parallel,
Brandon 19:27
perpendicular to the wall. That's the math word I want to so the top of the bracket screws in perpendicular to the wall, right. And then the bottom one is like angled down a little bit. And then there's little feet that stick out in the top and the bottom where the screw hole goes.
Collin 19:45
So that is much
Brandon 19:46
easier. It's more accessible because the access point to the top screw hole is just flat on. Right. And so you can get started with screwdriver. Use me with a drill you start to finish it with the screwdriver, but it's much easier
Collin 20:00
because it's a straight shot.
Brandon 20:03
And the force is pulling, squishing straight into the, to the wall instead of like having to like angle it and bite the side and rip your bolt head screw head all up, right? Yeah, not ideal because he can't get back out again.
Collin 20:19
But that's bad. Yeah, those are okay. And they worked pretty good. But
Brandon 20:24
the one where he just like, screw the screw out and then hang the bracket on
Collin 20:30
all curtain rods should be manufactured like that. All the other ones should be banned. Right banished by some sort of official decree?
Brandon 20:40
I don't know, get OSHA on this. I don't know who does this kind of thing. Well, I
Collin 20:44
know the EU will probably come in and ban this, because Sure, but it won't matter to us because they might think Well, no. But what happens is if it's a big enough impact, right? They've got to if they want to sell to both markets, a lot of companies for efficiency reasons don't like making the EU version and or an hour's industry and another version, right? This is costly. So
Brandon 21:04
yeah. So yeah, maybe that's it, maybe the EU and California, I'll get on that. And it will trickle down to Missouri. And we can have curtain rod holders that function. Yes. And you can actually add your curtain in a reasonable amount of time, it doesn't have to be a
Collin 21:20
huge event, you know, like, take
Brandon 21:25
hours and hours to do it. Or nothing will change. It'll just be faster to get the fight. But, you know,
Collin 21:34
it's I mean, once they're out there
Brandon 21:38
don't generally need to hang them again, I guess. So it's not like a thing that you're doing a whole lot. Because if you need to change the curtains, you just pull down the rod and the bracket stay fixed to the wall. Right, let's
Collin 21:49
you know, short term pain,
Brandon 21:53
the short term pain is immense, but like, once it's on there.
Collin 21:58
It's staying. So that's good, at least right? It's not it's not moving after that. Right. not moving at all. Yeah, that was my big, exciting evening. To open up to you. curtain rod,
Brandon 22:17
hanging expert
Collin 22:20
that sounds like Yeah, sounds like you should put that on your put that on my email title, email title, your signature, my email. This is exactly what you need to do.
Brandon 22:36
To get placed for that. really confused? Well, we're
Collin 22:41
impressed everybody, I think which is all
Brandon 22:43
of my qualifications that are not related to my job, but those in
Collin 22:55
too bad.
Brandon 22:55
Too bad because I know the internet is obsessed with this meme. But like I'm pretty sure my forklift certification has expired now. It has been like 15 years. So ah, if it was still valid, I would stick that in there. Certified
Collin 23:16
certified education good for ya. Sorry. Ah, yeah, I think it's like yeah, it's three years. Yeah. Yeah. Say I think it's lapsed. Oh, but you know, that is from that is from my friends. That is from us. Forklift. certification.com.
23:35
Well, it's a big deal. Thank you
Brandon 23:46
Yeah, that lake
Collin 23:50
that we I haven't been certified since I worked at Bass Pro, which I mean, yeah. Oh, I okay. So real quick. I am the current president of Missouri State is, is leaving. So I've
Brandon 24:07
only received 6000 emails about this. I don't know. And
Collin 24:15
I was like, I was like, crazy, because he was the he was the new guy just as I was coming. Yeah, he was, like, graduated 2010. And I was like, Oh, no. I Whoopsie daisy. That was literally to go. Yeah, because I was I was just I was like, oh, yeah, cuz he's, he was there. Nope. No, he was not. He was not
Brandon 24:50
my diploma. Oh, no.
Collin 24:52
Yeah, I was. I was listening to that. Because interestingly, I was. I was trying to remember Oh, of the there was I was just at the end of Nixels. Ah thing he I was part of the last great graduating class from him and I need to check Megan's paperwork. Because then there was a guy who came in and he was only in there. He was in there for less than a year. Yep. Yeah, that wasn't good. And then, because smart was brought in to be the interim, and then they hired him to be the full president. So I interim guy. 13 years later. Yeah, I remember Cliff smart coming. Oh, that's crazy. No. All right. I spent a long time. It's true. Speaking of a long time. Did you see the Google banner today? Oh, oh. Oh.
Brandon 26:04
Oh, you see it? Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's distressing, right. Yeah. listeners today on the Google banner yield Google better Google celebrating 25 years
Collin 26:17
of existence? Yeah, yikes. Yeah. Yikes.
Brandon 26:24
That's not good. That's not good. That makes me not happy. No, me neither. Because I definitely remember pre Google internet. My favorite topic on this show? We've mentioned a few times. But I thought it might be nice to just briefly bring that up again today because
Collin 26:42
it, man, I remember I old man, it is wild. I remember. I mean, this Google landing page, just how simple it has remained over the years. Like they've added some things like the login, obviously to create an account and but like, over the years, even this, this page has been different of like, you could search images, you could search other stuff, you could search the academia side of things. But you could still find but like this page of this white page, with a search box, and Google above it, like this, really, as simple as it is just, I hate that word. revolutionize. But it just it just changed how people interact with the Internet. Like and that's, it's so commonplace now. But to think, the gap before this, it's just, it just it's mind blowing to think of how something as simple as this, you know, really? No, it just, it's wild and makes me feel old. Basically.
Brandon 27:43
If you think about this,
Collin 27:44
right before Google, right, you were on like, the Lycos landing page.
Brandon 27:52
That was a mess. Right? It was like a whole, like a whole thing. All kinds of weird stuff in the way. You know, shout out Lycos anyway, remember, that? Hasn't been one for you. Oh, cheese. Yeah. Yeah. Little Dog thing or whatever, right?
Collin 28:09
Or that? Yeah,
Brandon 28:15
logo, that big black thing, right? There's all kinds of stuff the topics on there, or you had to like AOL keyword search things.
Collin 28:24
That was annoying, or like. Or, right, though, the one that I think
Brandon 28:33
most people that I know, used was the Yahoo landing page, which was just like, a homepage, you were there was like, all you could like, put all kinds of stuff on the thing. Right. And I think that some of that evolves a little bit later. But like, you could put like, there was just all kinds of stuff on like, it was like a Yahoo page. And it was like, like MSN, right? It was like news, and sports scores and all kinds of stuff. And you
Collin 28:58
would like, you know,
Brandon 29:02
you could customize the little windows, because it was like a poll windows. Right? Little looks like a newspaper, like columns and stuff. You know, and you could like, select which ones you want it on there. But it was like a whole, like, big landing page with like, all this stuff already there. And then you could also search but like, yeah, the the revolutionary idea is like,
Collin 29:24
now you just search it. Yeah, as, like, well,
Brandon 29:27
and they have the other stuff. It's like hiding. But like, it's not on the landing page where it wasn't like Yahoo, where's like,
Collin 29:34
everywhere? Well, and the if I remember correctly, the tags that were created in Yahoo. Were like manually entered and sorted. And so like, every time a new website would come up, people would go, Okay, what tags do we put on this? So it can be sorted here manually, instead of it being service serve, surfaced algorithmically and actually doing the same I crawling and all that stuff like that actually, they are harvesting data and pulling and surfacing it is what made it so incredibly powerful.
Brandon 30:08
Yeah, because it was like you had to manually like find it. Yes, like look for it, or they had to enter it. Right.
Collin 30:15
It's crazy, because I also,
Brandon 30:16
I think my yahoo email accounts still works, I think what? Yeah, and I think I'm pretty sure I still have a functioning Yahoo email.
30:24
Yeah. What do you what are you doing?
Brandon 30:27
mean that like, that's, you know, when like, sometimes like stores are like, Yo, give me email.
Collin 30:32
Let's give them that one. Right. Yeah. Or like, I think my I don't know if it still is, but like, my Amazon is hooked to that,
Brandon 30:45
because I've had Amazon since I was in high school. Yeah, like I didn't, that was my first email was my Yahoo and like, my middle school and as you used it for stuff,
Collin 30:56
right. I mean, it exists, right? Like, actively use it now, but like, it's there. I
Brandon 31:11
am one of the like, seven people probably that has a Yahoo Mail app on their phone. Right. Boom, there it is. Right there.
Collin 31:18
There it is. Got it. Nailed it. With that. You're welcome. No, that's not okay.
Brandon 31:26
That's just a piece of information that you needed to know today. There's people out there still with Hotmail email accounts. Well, that's true. That's that exists. Okay, fair, right. They're all people my age, but they still have bought Behringer once a while. I get like pair emails, right and the system and their Hotmail right? So like, you look nothing like it to email his parents. This is a Hotmail address.
Collin 31:53
Oh that makes that really makes me feel. Yeah.
Brandon 32:06
Yeah. All right. That sounds like everybody had that I had that. You either had a Yahoo email or Hotmail email. That was it. That's the only people I remember those are only two email things. I remember ever when I was younger.
Collin 32:18
That was all nobody had Gmail. It didn't exist. Right. So I mean, I think I made my Yahoo account when I was in like, middle school. Right?
Brandon 32:33
This feels like the right time this happened. I remember exchanging video game things with my friends on my yahoo email. Because before, right, alright, so here you go. Is it our early internet story? Right? So nowadays, right if you want to, let's say you're playing a video game or something you know this you do all the time obviously. And you want like information about the game like a guide stuff, you know? You can just go now there's like 200 billion websites and you can find like information about like the one specific thing that you need right? If like, Oh, I didn't know how to do this quest. Okay, you go to a page and they have it all broken down by like oh this quest and you this you can look at it unreal thing right? It's all broken down and subdivided and whatever.
Collin 33:31
I had a guide for Final Fantasy eight that was
Brandon 33:39
like I'm pretty sure several 100 pages of only text. Oh my gosh, right. And it was all text and it was in the email folder right? Because I read reference found it online somewhere. And it was just like hundreds of pages of
Collin 34:00
text only that was it. And
Brandon 34:04
it was like I remember the top had like they spelled out the title of the game and like slashes and like ASCII symbols as I enter the hole there was like an edge like this huge is outline
Collin 34:18
of text only. And it was enormous. If you need
Brandon 34:22
to find anything you had like keyword search the document right? Scroll for hours looking for the right spot like they're highlighting things. It was insanity. It was in that's how it works. Even more insane is goo type that what in the world and why like really why why how, how I'm working.
Collin 34:45
How did that exist? Right? Like, what?
Brandon 34:49
That is not. That isn't okay, like, oh,
Collin 34:53
I don't know how that existed. Oh, well, that brings up another good point. Oh, of how, in the early days it really was it was it was taxed almost exclusively, right there weren't you didn't have photos because the bandwidth to that well, a like the cameras to shoot the photos were didn't really exist or accessible. And then even I wasn't in it. Yeah. And then the bandwidth to upload those things was insane as a phone line. Yeah. Everyone remember, phone line. So then that's another problem that had to come up of like, Okay, now we're not just searching tax, we've got to surface like relevant photos. And then videos was a whole nother problem to try and surface and find information
Brandon 35:43
come around until like, way later, way later.
Collin 35:48
I just like just kind of just going back to the evolution of search. It's like, what exactly are you searching for? Originally, we were searching for text, right? Because that's what we wanted. And that's all it was there. It was like in the forum posts, long, long form posts. And now but then it became a problem. Another problem to try and solve. How do you surface these other pieces of information that are equally as important and relevant, but harder to get to? So? Yeah, it's, that's crazy to think 25 years ago.
Brandon 36:21
Yeah. Like you were lucky, like, information just didn't exist on the internet. Like people were like, manually inserting it on there with like, weird janky homemade like Angel Fire pages, right.
Collin 36:33
So like, I had I had an Angel Fire page. It probably still exists somewhere. Probably I have tried to fight I've tried to find it. It was about caring for hamsters dribbles.
Brandon 36:46
Like hardcore, like I
Collin 36:50
I was trying to I've searched for it every now and then. But hasn't
Brandon 36:57
hasn't read the surface. even know how we would do that. But yeah, I know that like, oh, bro, here it is. Angel feiyr.lycos.com. Hosted posted on like, oh my gosh, ah, ah,
Collin 37:11
this is a go. Here is a slice
Brandon 37:15
of older internet. Oh, no. Let me where's my share button. Yeah, this is uh, this isn't even that old. But it's still like, it looks extremely dated.
Collin 37:33
Like hey, go. You can remember your password. And oh, my gosh, now? Yeah, baby. Oh, that's terrible.
Brandon 37:44
I think I had a friend that had one. I don't even know what it was on there. But like, yeah. This was revolutionary. Because like it says right here, right? No need to learn HTML or fancy coding. Right. Previous to this. You had to literally program everything in HTML. Yeah. Which was the only way so like websites like this, which like this hosting site is like,
Collin 38:13
progenitor of,
Brandon 38:16
you know, like Squarespace. And stuff like that, where it's like, yeah, you don't have to actually code things. You can just do it. And you can host stuff on there. And it'll be like, it will exist now, because you typed it. You don't have to, like wear it. Right? Because HTML code is weird. They were wonky sometimes. very terrible. Yeah. I mean, I don't know a lot about coding languages. But I know that there are definitely some that are more functional than others. Well,
Collin 38:49
more well, there are the ones that are friendly. I guess it'd be the word right. And yeah, and then there are some that you can actually like, read. Well, like it's true. Yeah. Who typing HTML can like, read it and understand what's going on. But a lot of that is just, you know, not not good. Yes. Also, yeah, it doesn't work. We're not great. But
Brandon 39:08
yeah, so like, that was another big like, early Internet things like whoa, like, you can actually add your own stuff on the internet even though the internet like didn't really do a lot of stuff. There was like messaging things or like a, like AOL Instant Messenger. That was like
Collin 39:27
insane, right? Oh, gosh,
Brandon 39:30
I can just talk to random people on the internet. Me didn't really but like, No, you just be like, Oh, I could just message my friends through this text
Collin 39:37
chat. Crazy. Yeah, well, and that's, I think the one that was really popular. I'm gonna move back to search engines because I have to like, I'm fine. Remember? I mean, Ask Jeeves was a really big one. Oh, yeah. Honestly, like, that was that one was really important. Big cuz that was one of the first natural language models where you didn't have to type it. You could just like, you could literally ask a question, right? That was the tone. Yes. Like, like it was a question based thing, which is different than the searches of like, here's a keyword or like, here's this thing like this was really trying to take a how you would ask a question, or you would approach a problem and surface information for it, which Google then took and just ran with. Oh, yeah. Like Google. Like, it's just insane. But like that asked us was revolutionary for that aspect. And I used the dickens out of Ask Jeeves like, yeah,
Brandon 40:40
it's Yeah, because a lot of the stuff was keyword. Right. So if you're looking for like, I don't know, if you were going to Yahoo, Sue's search a Final Fantasy eight guide, in 1989. Right, you would have to be like that, you would have to type exactly that. And that would only give you like, you know, just those words. If you did if the title was like, longer, sometimes I'd be like, No, not gonna give you that. Yeah. Right, because it wasn't adjacent and didn't include, like, the Google search where it's like, oh, you know, it's missing these words. But it has like a note, just like,
Collin 41:13
only this much more literal function of
Brandon 41:18
the thing. Right. So it was much harder. So yeah, you're right, that I didn't use x Jeeves too
Collin 41:23
much. Because I didn't like
Brandon 41:26
maybe I did a little because I think everybody did. But like, yeah, the being able to just like ask, like, Yeah, I think the Natural Language search is might as edit a big step from just like, keyword only. AOL, just only search, just type this one word, and it'll might find you something maybe, like musi. Do you?
Collin 41:48
Do you remember? Learning the search operators? Yes. Right? This? I do those if you Google still supports
Brandon 42:04
all of these. Because I work. Yeah, they were good. They're healthy.
Collin 42:08
They're amazing. Have because, again, this gets back to the keyword, stuff of like, trying to get around the problem that you're describing, have, I didn't type in the title? Exactly. Correct. So you can do something like, like, if you want to include everything, you put them in quotes, right? So that those are all included in that order, this is going to be one of the most restrictive things. But maybe you want to search for, you know, books, or newspapers. So if you you can search for those, you can use the or, or the end or the star like all these like that's my that's kind of a fun one. If you've never done that one of like it's a it. It's a wildcard one. So it types, any combination of two or more words that you put together in a string. And, like I want that I use all of the time now is actually I'll type a type of phrase, and then I'll type site colon, and then I'll enter a website. And it'll pull up all of the instances of that phrase or that meeting on a particular website. That is, yeah, I use that all the time.
Brandon 43:25
Yeah, you can also like do the plus keyword thing where you're like, if you're looking for multiple words, if you type them and then just put plus signs between them. It won't search for the words in order, it'll like look for them, like Jake will just look those words, but not necessarily like next to each other.
Collin 43:41
You I mean, yeah, like, yes. So that is a no, no, I
Brandon 43:46
used to have an infographic somewhere that has all this information, but I don't think I saved it anymore. Absolute for it. I might if I find it later, I'll say it. But yeah, it's got all those like little tips where you can like, do that you can search and or and all that stuff where it's like, yeah, that's I used to have to do it like
Collin 44:05
all the time. Yes. I remember because we learned that in go to be to have the library
Brandon 44:11
injured a business class to I think we talked about that somehow.
Collin 44:15
I remember we had to do it when we'd go to the library to learn how to use the like the catalog searches online. For whatever it was that called the cat cat. Oh, gosh, what was that? Ah, I don't know. It's named Coolcat. It was called Coolcat to search the online database of the public library, and you would have to use that to search to find exactly what you're looking for.
Brandon 44:46
Yeah, because as those workers like database searches, right, like and you can do it that way. Yeah, I see your number a little bit about that in library class.
Collin 44:56
That sounds that sounds mildly familiar. Hear us? Oh, here it is. Cool Cat? No. Oh, is that Google Search Tips? Oh, yes. Yeah. Yes, this is one of these. Yeah. Now search for
Brandon 45:25
like only PDF files or you can search by things like only from author or you can search from like, keywords only or like,
Collin 45:34
Yeah, it's crazy. Most people have no need to or desire or really, you know, I would say there's no reason to search like that anymore. But sometimes it's still, it's I think it's still it prevents a lot of scroll. But Google is so good with the algorithm now to know and surface exactly what you're looking for that, that hunting and pecking through the unknown of the internet is, is not really necessary. But back then, like you needed to keyword search and search using those operators. Otherwise, you wouldn't find anything. Oh, yeah. Yeah, this.
Brandon 46:14
The one that is very useful, that I use a lot is actually if you write, define colon, and then a word, it brings you straight to the dictionary definition that Google has about the what the word is, Oh, yeah. Right. Because sometimes, if you Google words, it'll like just, it'll give you like, any instance of that word existing. Which is not helpful to you. So if you're like reading, or you're doing researching, like, I don't know what this is, like. I mean, if you're reading a book, or you're doing some like that, you're like, I've never,
Collin 46:42
like what does that mean, right?
Brandon 46:45
And so if you do that, if you define colon, and then the word just automatically brings up the dictionary entry, which is very handy. I've used that one, probably, relatively frequently, right when I'm doing that, because that's a, that's a good shortcut. Because you had to like search for it real hard, because it's, I use that word.
47:05
Well, and I'm just like, I'm scrolling through this page. And like, going, yeah, one of the tips that it gives here is going to use Google as your calculator. I'm like, yo, yeah, like I do that all. That's all.
Collin 47:18
There's an app on my computer to do that. But I do all of my math and Google. Yeah, we did that.
Brandon 47:27
In science the other day, when we got our new devices, right. We were like, Hey, I was like, Hey, we're just gonna do that. Because we are we switched from. We got new devices this year. They've got Chromebooks, right. Oh, you didn't ditch the iPads? Yeah, this the iPads for the Chromebooks, which is they don't seem as durable. I'm just gonna put it that way. They're very breakable.
Collin 47:52
Sorry. Yeah. All right.
Brandon 47:56
But like, you know, we had to do some stuff. We were doing like calculations. And they were like, Why do you do that? I was like, just go to Google. Right. And you can also if you just type in calculator, I'm sure it brings up a calculator, right? It because this thing just says like, you can just like type of problem in there. And that'll work right. But if they want to see a I wanted to, like see a calculator so they can visualize it better, because they're 12. They knew that. So they but if you just type in calculator, it will just give you one on the on the on the page, like, here it is. Here's calculator.
Collin 48:34
Calculate away. Go for it. So we did that in class. I don't remember what that was for. But yeah, we do that. So it's a good tip to have. as well.
Brandon 48:49
Yeah, there's all this functionality hidden behind a blank white page. Interesting.
Collin 49:01
No, I feel thoroughly old. Yeah. Welcome for that.
Brandon 49:05
Let's
Collin 49:10
go over here. But your business champion, so that's good. Oh, yeah. To do that. Technically, technically, as of right now. We are still as of as of the release of this episode, we will be out of the embargo. So that's what I'll say. So Oh, okay. Sorry, my bad. No, you're fine. It's fine, because this is a big release until afterwards. So yes, we did win best of what feels good. I mean, if the category is pet boarding slash pet sitting, and this is this, mostly because we had got nominated for pet boarding, and we were like, ah, oh, we don't want that to happen again. Because remember, that's what happened to us in in our other location. And we are still we are still pulling out from that. So we contacted the newspaper, and we're like, hey, thanks. This is amazing. We're so honored to be nominated for this category.
50:16
Could we
Brandon 50:19
change the title slightly?
Collin 50:21
Just don't have to get rid of everything. You know, we'd also be happy if you just made a new one, right? That we could just say, No, we the only way we understand if you don't want to. So the yes, we got lumped in with that. So it feels good. We went to the come and go reception to pick up our stuff tonight. And I was a little I was a little underwhelmed. Again, all of this is from the heart of exceptionally grateful for this award. So with that said, it felt very weird in that, like you walked in, and they said, Great. Here is a meal ticket, the food truck is outside, you may go order. cash bar, free soda, for as long as it lasts. Also, there's like a couple dozen cupcakes over there that probably aren't going to make it the rest of the evening.
51:20
Now, if
Collin 51:22
that's what we did, we went waited in line for her food. And before we did, Megan went and grabbed two cupcakes and the tomato plates. Because when we got done, we were only 45 minutes into the sake no cupcakes left. Yeah,
Brandon 51:35
there's like his eight cupcakes over there. get much,
Collin 51:39
much. Um, and then like you just walked over and picked up your lunch ticket, and then kind of went and sat back down wherever you wanted to sit and eat. And I was like, I was not looking for like a Oh, why didn't they? I didn't they you know, call us up and and have it you know, live streamed and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But I, I was a little going, it was a little underwhelming, that's what I'll say, of like, just kind of stop by pick up your certificate, and then you can peace. And that's what a lot of people did. Like they didn't even stay for the free food, which I was. I was shocked by but, you know, I'd like prefix. So.
Brandon 52:20
Yeah, everybody wants to pay for that. Right? Right. Just
Collin 52:23
stop by grab their thing. And we're like, Okay, peace out. Okay, it made it a little, you know, I was like, oh, like, couldn't they, you know, have done something a little bit more involved. Because it at the very end, they had like, hometown hero. And this was Holly,
52:39
that's like a big deal. That's a big deal. And so everyone's like,
52:44
he never went left.
Collin 52:45
But there was, you know, there was no official awarding of anything. But like, that was one of the things that people voted for was, who was our hometown hero. And their names are in the little booklet that they passed out. And so I was expecting, oh, maybe they'll give like a speech or they'll be highlighted, like, we don't need to highlight best custom cake maker. Like that's important. Thank you for doing Yeah, we don't need to highlight everybody who's won. Maybe we should highlight, you know, that person, since they're making a big impact on our community? No, no, they didn't do anything.
Brandon 53:22
Yeah, Hero Caros carries a bit more gravitas than cake person. Right? Like no offense to cake people out there. But like,
Collin 53:31
hero and cake maker? Yes.
Brandon 53:35
Not the same. I mean, the same person who knows, but like, you know,
53:41
perhaps for different reasons.
Collin 53:42
Right? I'm exactly, I mean, 100% on all this like, and I'm saying that having won an award, like my award is not that meaningful. Compared to somebody who's the hometown hero, like the sheriff was awarded, because he has worked really hard. Apparently, he's been here for several years, but he's really changed around the department to make it much, much, much more like accountable and fiscally solid and worked on recruitment and public outreach and done all this stuff to really turn around public perception of what the police force was doing here in town. But then someone else who like started a nonprofit one, you know, had, she was a second nomination and there was another person that's like, I'd like to hear from them. You know, like, that would be kind of nice. And I just thought that that was kind of a missed opportunity. Really. To not do that. So it was unfortunate. Yeah, that is a bit
54:48
interesting. Right? is kinda you know, sometimes it's hard to organize stuff like that though. Oh, yeah. Like banquet he things kind of weird. You know, because you don't want it to you don't want anybody to be there for like,
Collin 55:04
hours. But also,
Brandon 55:07
you don't really want to be like, oh, yeah, anyway, like,
Collin 55:11
yeah. And that's Yeah, that's exactly why it was like, not everybody needs to stand up there and have like, best of auto repairman. And like, best realtor and best real in our company and best home loan officer. And best, you know, it's like, okay, no, no, we don't need that. So let's pick some of the big ones like most impactful to our, to our town, and community. And let's highlight them, because that'd be kind of cool. And what that does, though, unfortunately, is it messes with the come and go reception. Tality like that makes it hard.
55:52
That if you start with it, right, you say Darby with it. In this off the event, and people can wander. Yeah, go. Right, you come to the kickoff. And you can leave. stay around for as long as you want. But you can also leave if you want, right. Yeah. So yeah, I
Brandon 56:10
think frontloading might be the way to go.
Collin 56:14
And so I even had, you know, I was even thinking of an idea of, you know, one of the things that when you win an award, they typically will hand you the award, turn towards the professional photographer and stand there awkwardly shaking your head and hand you a plaque or a trophy. Yeah. And then you walk away. I thought it would be kind of a neat idea if and because all this was done by the Democrat, the the newspaper, and yeah, have they had all the staff from the newspaper there, what they could have done is when you walk up, you see you walk up, you walk in, they give you your food ticket, you then go to those table, you pick up your certificate, you'll have a plaque right next to that they could have had a photo booth, where you turn, the photographer takes a snap, and they would have could have had a representative from the newspaper. They're standing next to you and that person just rotates every 30 minutes. Oh, yeah.
Brandon 57:08
Yeah, nine people in there for the big Yeah. Yeah.
Collin 57:11
So that the same person doesn't have to stand there for two hours. But yeah, that's a good idea. Yeah. Because then because there were some people who like they're a solo business, you know, their their hair, you know, the hairstylist, they don't have anybody to go take their picture over by the big wall. So I thought that it would kind of be neat to just offer that and then say, You know what, look, we know where you are. We'll bring you you know, we'll get you a photo. Yeah, sure. We can. Yeah, we, we have your address award. So we can very well, and then, you know, the other other thing that I was thinking about was just how they are very geared towards a brick and mortar style of what I mean. Yeah. Which is, which is fine. Totally understand. But what what what we need to do is they need to have, like, a,
58:19
like, it'd be nice to have like a downloadable packet of images that we could use for our websites to put on our websites. Right? Yes. Like, this is like, Oh, I'm winning service. Yeah.
Collin 58:33
I appreciate the banner option that I could have purchased for $100. Right. I appreciate that. It's very nice. I, I do however, not need a banner. So just having an option to go in and download like, Hey, you won. Here's a link, here's where you can go download everything. Because then that way, what that does is when we did this, when we joined the chamber to we were like, hey, where can we go download to get your approved logo. And so that we were not using, like, we can get the high quality stuff. So I don't have to go steal it from somebody else's website like that's yeah.
Brandon 59:14
Or like hand make it mostly right. Yeah,
Collin 59:18
right, or like code, take it, take a picture and crop that out or whatever. I don't want to do that. I'd like to use the real thing. So while we were picking up our certificate, we were like, oh, and could weirdly download this little emblem, right because what we're gonna do is obviously, put it on our website. And then we're going to be putting it on. We're going to send out some local
59:46
mailers newsletter thing.
Collin 59:48
Yeah, yeah, stuff. Postcards is what we put together. As a service. We print off these postcards, and then we send them sometimes to existing clients as thank yous. But what what kinda have to save on money. Because if you go to the big, direct mailing companies, they're like, oh, no, it's super affordable. You know, we your shipping costs are like nine cents an item. And we're like, oh, oh, wow, that's cool.
Brandon 1:00:15
How's the minimum item count?
Collin 1:00:16
Yeah, how many items do I need to do? And they're like, oh, 10,000
1:00:20
Until I have items. That's cool. Yeah.
Collin 1:00:24
See a lot. And that's, so if you do 10,000 times point naught Oh, nine, that's $900. Now, yeah. I'll say, if you are in, like, product or business, or like, something like that, but like, if let's say, I send out 10,000. Flyers, if I get a 1% return, that's 100 new clients, I cannot service 100 new people to know. So what we do is we go to where we have existing clients, I will go to their address. And if it's a home, I will pick their neighbor on either side. Yeah. And then three across the street. So I sent five to that area. Just repeat that for neighborhoods. If it's an apartment, I'll pick clumped around, you know, oh, this is there and 106 E, so I'll do G you
1:01:15
know, go Yeah, so.
Collin 1:01:18
So we're gonna do that. And also other stuff. So anyways, just kind of like, overall, it tells people that we recognized topic, but we didn't. And of course, I'm sitting there being like, oh, my gosh, like, how do I? How do I get in talk to you? Like, where are you from? Because they didn't give us name tag. They didn't give us anything like that. So yeah. But again, I understand it was not a networking event. Yes. Was this was different. But at the same time, I was like, what? Where are all of you people? I don't see you anyway. Are you hiding? room they let you in? What is it? I don't like it in this other room. So that was that was our event tonight? And yes, the cupcakes were delicious.
Brandon 1:01:59
That's good. That's good. You know, back on the theme
Collin 1:02:01
of being too old. You know what? You know what you need, really? For your business?
Brandon 1:02:11
That apparently does not exist anymore.
Collin 1:02:14
Kinkos? Yeah, yeah.
Brandon 1:02:18
azulay name, right. Imagine a 24 hour business center where you could just print off anything you wanted, in crisp color, or like no dollars. And just like, print them all. I know, everywhere. Who thought that was a good idea to shut down. Like, what is it? And I know down next, what do you do when
Collin 1:02:42
it's been consumed into FedEx, but like, it's not the same way. They they stuck them in a little corner. And I'll never forget. I mean, gosh, when did Kinkos go out a bit. When did that happen?
Brandon 1:02:54
It's been a while. I remember. There used to be a couple in Springfield. But I don't I don't really know. Exactly.
Collin 1:03:03
2004
Brandon 1:03:04
Yeah. Been a long time.
Collin 1:03:07
Wow. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That was that was synonymous with that. And I know FedEx has tried to take over that aspect. But it really it's not the same. No, they don't market that part either. Right. Like the FedEx Office thing, right. Like, I think you can still get like, you know,
Brandon 1:03:34
some stuff, but like that, oh, the Kinkos just be open, like forever. Like, it was weird. It was
Collin 1:03:39
super late at night. Really early. We all like almost seven days a week or seven days a week like Yeah, even on holidays. So yeah,
Brandon 1:03:53
there was like a big thing. I don't like how people use it. But you know, again, the internet and the changing times. You're like, I don't need printed stuff. Like whoa, turns out they do. And now they can't get it anywhere. Because yeah,
Collin 1:04:08
I mean, it's honestly like, I don't I don't even think of FedEx for that kind of printing. I just go to Staples. Because staples. My brain goes oh, that's that's business right. That's office supply supply. Yeah. So I print most of our stuff from Staples.
Brandon 1:04:29
I mean, yeah, FedEx is brand is shipping stuff. I mean their logo now as you know, famously Right. Like, I don't know how state when the logo has been changed for it feels like 100 years. right over the old logo like the red and blue logo.
Collin 1:04:48
Yeah, a long time ago. Yeah, it was just like the roll Express. Right? But then they changed the FedEx logo.
Brandon 1:04:56
Cleverly hiding the arrow in the letters. Haha, bro. Did you know there's an app? Guys? How long has it been? And you don't know this? What is the matter with you? What?
1:05:05
Stop it?
1:05:07
Like?
Collin 1:05:08
Oh, great. It's so wild. It's like
Brandon 1:05:13
hurts my brain every time somebody brings it up
Collin 1:05:15
in 2023. Like, why? Why would you do that?
1:05:23
So ridiculous. But anyway, they they, you know, they just their whole brand is about shipping fastly. Right. And so
Brandon 1:05:36
the it gets lost, right. The other services they have get lost in the mix, you know,
Collin 1:05:45
and it doesn't
Brandon 1:05:47
do that. Right. It doesn't. It's not important. They don't talk about it. Because, yeah, their biggest businesses, the shipping things, you know,
Collin 1:05:57
I know they've got the FedEx. Yeah, the FedEx Office section. Yeah, sometimes, but it's, you're right. Like, I just think of shipping like things come to me. I don't why would I go there to print my documents or whatever?
Brandon 1:06:10
Yeah, they changed their logo in 1994. Us For reference, the bagel, old boxy Federal Express logo that was blue and red and white.
Collin 1:06:20
was 1994. And people are still like, Bro, did
1:06:25
you know there's an arrow between the E and X? Like,
Collin 1:06:28
I can't? I can't with you right now.
Brandon 1:06:31
I need you to stop talking. You know, right. Very cool when they shortened it from Federal Express says too long. For the 90s that expro because everything that he said to be ex
Collin 1:06:45
as, as discussed in detail on this very program, yes.
Brandon 1:06:48
And multiple times, and will be more in the future after as well. Like, FedEx, right? It's more edgy.
Collin 1:06:55
To add your logo, right? Also, we're talking about what a bold choice
Brandon 1:07:00
it is to completely change your color of your branding. Right? That's an interesting choice. Go from like the blue and red to the like, purple orange thing.
Collin 1:07:07
Very, like very bold step, completely changing the brand color.
Brandon 1:07:15
Interesting. But you know if you're gonna be edgy, and just call it X Men.
Collin 1:07:21
Yeah, but they had been I mean, they were originally founded white in the 70s. Yeah, so 70s, you know, a year run? Yeah, that was good. Federal Express. shorten it right. But again, again,
Brandon 1:07:33
they changed the logo in 1994. So don't come at me in 2023 be like, Oh my gosh, bro.
Collin 1:07:40
Did you know there's every everybody knows it's been a minute DOP. Like,
Brandon 1:07:47
I understand if it's like a child, right? Because I work with child's you know, and so if they come up, and they're like, oh my gosh, I didn't know
Collin 1:07:55
this. Of course not. Your 12 Yeah,
Brandon 1:07:59
you don't know anything? is fine. Right? That doesn't bother me. Right? If new people discover this, like, you know, kids are like, Oh my gosh, just heard this great. New Band. Have
Collin 1:08:07
you ever heard of this band? I just discovered
Brandon 1:08:08
them. They're called Metallica. Yeah, I think I've heard of them. You know, just a little bit like it's new to them. Because the whole world is new to them.
Collin 1:08:19
Because they're 12. Right?
Brandon 1:08:21
They'll come at me as like somebody my age and be like,
Collin 1:08:25
Oh my gosh, I didn't know that. Speaking to me. I had a friend today who he plays. He plays music while his classes studying. And yeah, he and I were in the same Ph. D program. And he would just he just listened to he has as all these YouTube channels. One of them just plays the Lord of the Rings soundtracks on loop.
Brandon 1:08:53
Right. I was listening to Lo Fi Lord of the Rings beats did the day. Okay, cool. Yeah, read. So
Collin 1:09:01
here's, here is his exact quote, playing Lord of the Rings score in class. It's in the Shire bit and a student popped her head up and said, Is this SpongeBob it sounds like Spongebob. No, he said, said you're free to leave. And I said don't be too hard on them. You know, the movies came out before they were born. And he said I'm done talking about this right now anyway like, yeah, yeah. Yeah, those movies came out which were just still like, so foundational.
1:09:41
It's got
Brandon 1:09:44
Yeah, what was returned to the king was that he doesn't
Collin 1:09:47
four or five.
Brandon 1:09:48
I think I think return the king was five. I can't remember. But yeah, that's like, a lot. Yeah.
1:09:54
Yeah. You know, like,
Brandon 1:09:56
I remember I was in college by the time because I want to see it with some of my friends. That's a fun fact. Oh,
1:10:02
no.
Collin 1:10:03
Oh gosh, we were off by two years. 2003 was it 2003?
1:10:07
Was it three? Interesting? Yeah, cuz Oh yeah. Oh, yeah. Was
Collin 1:10:11
maybe 2000 Because 2001 I know 2001 is fellowship, there was two towers and then you're choking was three booth it was for
Brandon 1:10:19
for some reason. But anyway.
Collin 1:10:23
Yeah, yes. So I went saw with some Polish friends too. But
Brandon 1:10:27
Lord of the Rings return to the king. One of the very, very small number of movies that I have seen in a theater more than once. Oh. I don't normally go to the movie theater multiple times to watch a movie. Like if I see it again. It's like a home or something. I went to the movie theater. At least three times, I think. Watch. Pretty sure I wasn't with you names. I was also my friends. And I think I watched with some of my friends again.
Collin 1:11:01
Oh, that's a good one.
Brandon 1:11:04
Yeah, we're going back. See now and again. That's an important distinction in my personal movie watching history. Is that one of the very few movies I have seen in theaters multiple times. Yes, it's a very short list. There might only be like three or four. Like, I don't
Collin 1:11:25
I can't think of when. Yeah, I know. I've seen that one. I don't think I saw it. I think I saw it twice. So if you pronounce it definitely with you guys memes. But yeah, that's uh, yeah, it was just a reminder again, yet of this. How? Ah, I don't I don't know. I know that the big thing to do right now is to go back and do remakes. Oh, what was in the near the remake? That was just a just heard coming up to have you out?
1:11:57
I don't know.
Collin 1:11:58
Oh, the office, the office. They're talking about remaking. Oh, really? What are your thoughts
1:12:02
on this? I mean, so to be perfectly honest with you. I didn't watch the office. So I don't really care. But I do know that it is like
Collin 1:12:18
highly,
Brandon 1:12:20
culturally relevant to a very large group of people. Yes. And so I feel like,
Collin 1:12:27
at the end,
Brandon 1:12:28
like, from what I know, like the show, like the themes and stuff, like it's still like, holds up? Pretty much. I think, again, I'm not an expert in this. I don't watch it. Based on the meme culture, I know that the office is extremely relevant to everyone on the internet. Because there's like 700,000 Memes based on the show. And so I feel like that's a weird one. But again, when did the office go off the air?
Collin 1:12:57
Right? I feel like I feel like,
Brandon 1:13:01
I feel like what should happen in this case is not like a
Collin 1:13:05
re make. Right? But like, just the office more. Right?
Brandon 1:13:15
Like, it's not new, it's not like the same, you can't be the same people, right? You can't have the same like characters and stuff.
Collin 1:13:20
But it could be the same like
Brandon 1:13:23
setting because a new people like a lot order works, you know, like his landlord has been around for like, 1000 years now. And it's the same idea all the time. But there's new people on it. Right? The same people that are on lawn order right now are not the same people that were on lawn order in 1991
Collin 1:13:44
when it aired. I mean,
Brandon 1:13:47
I feel like I felt like the office. So like culturally relevant, and like a touchstone television moment for
Collin 1:13:56
millions of people.
Brandon 1:13:59
You just need to make it set in 2023. In like, I mean, you can be the same company, but like, maybe like one character to the same but like, other people can be new people, and then just do more office. Right. I feel like that would be the best way to handle this. Like, you know, it could be a new boss and new people, but like, the whole show is just like, unscripted and like Insanity. Right. So well. Sorry, I
Collin 1:14:28
had to step out for just a quick moment. One of our children is starting to sleep walk. Oh, which, which, which Aaron used to was Aaron used to do that every now and then through so yeah, anyway. All right. But you're right. I mean, the office the the American office is already a remake of the UK insurance. Yeah, Bridgman. So. So I understand that there's there's that and then I like the aspects of just like, just continue it right. Yeah,
Brandon 1:14:59
I feel like it's the best A few years later, right, like that's what you're doing. Yeah. Because I know even the British one like the, in the American versus the British one. Like, I know that the pilot episode is the same. Yes. Right. Like, I think, from what I know about the audience is like, the pilot episode is like a shot. It's like a shot for shot remake of the British version. Right? And then the second episode, they're just like, okay, that do whatever. And the second episode is where the shows just, it takes the idea and then just runs in a different direction. Right. And I think that's the best way to handle a situation like that. Right? Yeah. So I think yeah, I think just like, the office is back. And it's just like, it can be the same company. You know, it can be whatever, but like, new characters, but like, same setting same, just more of the same?
Collin 1:15:54
That's my thoughts. Because like, I don't really think you can,
Brandon 1:16:00
you can't replace the people that were on the show, you know, what I mean? Like, you know, I don't know any of their names, but like, you know, the characters like, you can't you probably can't replace them because they're so iconic.
Collin 1:16:11
Right? So culturally important. Like, you could just have different characters now. But in a similar environment. I mean, yeah, that's all it needs to
Brandon 1:16:21
be done. Yeah. And I feel like I feel like remaking the office would be okay. Because, like, people still really like that, Joe. And I think people really well, I think they probably look at the number of people that still stream reruns of the office. And they're like, Okay, we we got to do something with this. Because like, all these people are rewatching. Yes. We should probably make a new one. And I think that's what skews some of their numbers, right? A little bit like people are rewatching these shows and like, oh, we should make the show again. I saw yesterday a commercial. They're also remaking checks notes.
Collin 1:16:57
Fraser. Oh, yeah. I don't know. I don't know who's clamoring for that one. Yeah,
Brandon 1:17:08
that was a pretty important show. Like, you know, a long time ago. I guess. People liked Frasier. I didn't I was too young. For Frasier, I guess for the humor. I don't know. But like, agreed. Or just like, I because I did watch some of the episodes, but I just didn't. I never thought it was good. Like, it just wasn't for me, I guess.
Collin 1:17:32
But well, you think to have like, the, I think still to this day, the most rewatched. TV series, it's friends. So between friends. You know, I, I definitely see people going back to these and trying to do like, Can we do a continuation? Can we do a remake? And I think the best thing is to preserve the you know, the quote, unquote, canon of that TV show. And just to set it in the universe several years later, that's all you have to do. Right?
Brandon 1:18:03
Yeah. I mean, if you were going to this is going to be blasphemous for a lot of people out there, right? Some of my former college roommates included, but if you are going to remake friends,
Collin 1:18:14
right? You can't. Like it has to
Brandon 1:18:18
be a new group of friends. Right? It can't be Ross, Rachel, JOEY CHANDLER, right. It has to be like, Steve, and will it really you know what I mean? I haven't be like new people like Tanya, I don't know, just like random name for like, it has to be different people
Collin 1:18:31
that are also friends.
Brandon 1:18:37
Yes, then you can do whatever. But they have to be new people. Right, you can still keep some of the character tropes you can still have like, a joey esque person. Right. But like, there can't be somebody trying to play Joey. Because that will never work ever in a million years. Right? Can?
Collin 1:19:00
Yeah, no, you can. Yeah, some have some of the same motifs, but you're not bringing back these people and having them reprise their roles. Like that's
Brandon 1:19:08
No, no, that's not fun. That show doesn't work with like, 50 plus year old Phoebe. Right. Like that doesn't really know. It's really gonna have the same vibe.
Collin 1:19:21
Not the same vibe at all. So, right, yeah,
Brandon 1:19:27
I don't know. Like, yeah, I feel like you just have to, you can still call it that. Again, you have to do like the lawn order thing where like, it's still on order. But it's like 100% of the characters are different. But it's still on order. Right?
Collin 1:19:42
The theme is there.
Brandon 1:19:45
The thing is happening, right friends where you would still have like the themes and the messages and some of the stuff just to be updated
Collin 1:19:51
for the new time because let me tell you, as a person who has watched lon or binge Athan most of the summer yeah
Brandon 1:20:00
Law and Order first season versus like current law in order, not the same show at all. Right? It's very different vibes going on, right? A lot of different stuff happening, right?
Collin 1:20:13
Because it's like the
Brandon 1:20:14
culturally, like we're in a different place in 2023, than we were in 1981. You need to be sensitive that you can't be making, like, shows that were okay in 1991. Now, because that's just not how it works, right? Like it's not better or worse. It's just a different time and place. Right? So things have to be different to accommodate for that. Right?
Collin 1:20:34
So dad, right.
Brandon 1:20:36
1981 order is not bad. It's just not the same. Because the world is not the same place. It was. Right? You couldn't like make the show exactly the same. It's broadly similar. You are still there. We're still like 30 minutes of the show. police investigator 30 minutes of the show. Courtroom antics, right? Like it's that formula is fine, right? It's okay. But like, the goings on in that spot is different. That's fine. Because it's different time. You can't do like weird 90 stuff. Now,
Collin 1:21:10
if you do like friends, because it wouldn't make sense. You know, it'd be like that doesn't.
Brandon 1:21:15
That's not how people talk. That's not how people behave. That's not like it doesn't make sense. You know what I mean?
Collin 1:21:20
Yeah. So, but it is weird. Some of the shows they choose to bring back. Sometimes it's odd to me. Right, like, once
Brandon 1:21:30
again, I have stuck it in the freezer thing right now. Like, Alright, is there really a giant market of people clamoring for more Frasier Crane?
Collin 1:21:40
Like? Really? No offense, Kelsey Grammer but like, really? Sounds like a challenge in the future is to watch. Die can. No big trouble.
Brandon 1:22:05
And how Frasier is a spin off of cheers.
Collin 1:22:07
That's another weird. Tie was always saying, that was always a weird stretch to be like, really? That's.
Brandon 1:22:17
Yes, it's another weird one. Right? They can't be trailing. Can you imagine somebody trying to be remade cheers. be weird. Right? It's so weird. How you can? How you can replace normal cliff? Not possible. That's
Collin 1:22:38
well, well. Well, unfortunately, he's unavailable due to a tragic incident on an island in the middle of the ocean. Not true. Is that still recovering? Universe?
Brandon 1:22:56
Of course. Of course.
Collin 1:22:59
Exactly. Oh. Terrible, terrible. Disappointing bumps. Well, sounds like we've got some, some TV pitching to do to keep these things alive.
Brandon 1:23:19
We'll have to do our 90s tv draft at some point.
Collin 1:23:23
Oh my gosh. Yeah, I
Brandon 1:23:24
have to do that. I have to come with a big thing. We need to do that. Babies TV show draft. Best of list. But still currently working on my Halloween movie list. Not nanny to Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown.
Collin 1:23:36
Yes. Okay. We need to pick a date when we're actually going to last year.
Brandon 1:23:40
When to do that. So yeah, building my list. Okay. Coming up because of stuff here. So, yeah, we'll talk about Pelican have a couple of runners up. Just so you know.
Collin 1:23:53
Okay. And then and then we'll, we'll probably we'll probably kick off the new year with our 90s tv show draft. That's a good way to kick off a new a new year.
Brandon 1:24:03
Yeah, we'll have to come up with a good format for this but I like this point.
Collin 1:24:08
Okay, well with with many plans in the future. Wow.
Brandon 1:24:14
into there. All right. Love you