We come to you in the sweltering heat. Aaron drops some knowledge bombs about his Hyundai Venue and artificial turf fields. Collin wants you to start saying ‘thank you’ more frequently. Brandon has made a shocking discovery.

It’s hot
Aaron’s Hyundai Venue review
Aaron saying his goodbyes and his hellos.
Turf fields
Brandon…not a coach
Economics of turf
Too hot for biking
Collin is going to pools
Just say THANK YOU
Brandon made a discovery
Movie review: The Great Waldo Pepper - 1975
It’s bad.
Fugue state movie reviews!!
Tour de France chat…
Team selection
Saudi Golf Tour controversy?
Sportswashing

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Collin, Aaron, Brandon

Brandon 00:04

Welcome to Oh, brother, a podcast of three brothers. Trying to figure it all out with your hosts, Brandon, Colin and Aaron. On this week's show fugue state Movie Reviews. Oh boy. Oh boy. Ah, being not going outside because it's too hot. That's that's avoiding outside as much as humanly possible. You know, today today compared to previous days today actually hasn't been as bad up here because it has had the heat hasn't had the humidity. Thankfully, I don't know how there's any humidity hasn't rained in like weeks. So I've been really rough. It's been a weird June normally June is very rainy and not quite so hot. But right now it's like 1000 degrees and it's terrible and no like it down. We've had so many heat advisories, heat warnings going well into the, the evenings to which are always my favorite when it's like you're under a heat advisory. 10 o'clock at night, right? It's like eight o'clock. It's still like 90 degrees. Like why? No. Like, that is not what I want. Actually. Nobody wants that. Yes, that's correct. So gotta move to cold ocean current. So I gotta do I use the word. Ireland to baby. Yeah, that's, that's great. That's just that'll keep you chipper year round. Hey, baby, fine. New Zealand, New Zealand. Here I come. That's fair. I will take you up on that. Joanna? How's Erin? Erin, how's the new has a new ride? You've been? I need an official review. You've been driving it? For how many days? Now? How is it? We got it. Let's hear we got it. Also, they called a Saturday. They're like, go ahead and be ready. You know, whatever. Oh, sweet. And then they called us are like, Oh, I'm actually not here to come Monday, like,

Aaron 02:29

Okay, fine. And so I would say you seemed when I went to pick it up. But they they got it relatively clean. Currently, the previous owner was a smoker. And so they spent most of the time being that. I mean, it's from all the reviews that we did, you know, after the fact show, he was actually looking at us and says it's a it's a good cheap car that made like pretty decent quality, and been driving itself Monday. And great on the road, they can get up and go but need to.

Brandon 03:07

It's just a fun little car. It's just, it's only needed, they can hold and carry a lot. Doesn't cost an arm and a leg to the left has a lot of cool features that we're slowly playing with. But no, I we did pretty good. We did pretty good. I actually had to go and

Aaron 03:28

clean up my classroom today and get all my stuff out. So I'm sitting in an office full of like, books and posters and things like that. And that's different from normal. So I was pretty, pretty nervous because I'm like, oh, man, I gotta I gotta have my little podium. And it's not gonna fit, like not I popped a little back half open and brutal in there. And, you know, they'll have plenty of room and that was with all 12,000 books that I had.

Brandon 04:00

I don't say it was no matter how much I coach, the hardest thing was leaving places telling the kids that you're not going to be there next year. And

Aaron 04:13

I had I had a I had a meeting with the softball girls. And I told them like, hey, what do you guys do person though, that I won't be here next year.

Brandon 04:25

Change and, you know, copper elsewhere and the moment I said that just tears and crap.

Aaron 04:37

So, if you're listening, if you want to be a coach, understand the wins and losses aren't, you know, it's not what gets you it's those kids and how much they will put in Korea and you know, you give them the world. And then you got to tell them that like Hey, I come back next year.

Brandon 04:58

And so they a lot of them, send the message There's another little group next thing and I had to read them again. And so it was they I had a, I was very fortunate to have a group of girls. That was, you know, it was pretty tough to tell them to die today. So

Aaron 05:18

if I get that man, it wasn't my intention. But I was like, hey, well I'm here by as well. But beautiful wise, runs great, pretty smooth ride. AC works. But it was kind of a an emotional roller coaster

Brandon 05:41

most good. You guys do some of that face to face though. I think that's important. Right? So even though it is a little rough I've been with I went to my new school that Monday and did a summer season baseball with them. I sent Colin a picture of it, but I have like, eight hats. Now. I'm pretty sure they just bribed him with hats. And that's why he went with them. And listen to the show they know about his errand. Are you actually getting paid for it? No. is Aaron being paid in half is what I'm concerned about? Oh,

Aaron 06:24

I'll tell him the headcode Oh, you know, you got a running thing with my I broke them off because Riley's as it goes elsewhere. And I was like, you know, we got a thing to see who was cooler hat. And then. So our school was actually sponsored by Under Armour. And we have a lot of like, Under Armour things. And I got to walk home with

Brandon 06:49

eight AP. And then I guess the future that he's bringing me more things forward. Like, I want my coaches looking good. And I'm like, oh, no, I mean, if you're gonna be a coach, it is important that you have like, Team gear. Right? Yeah. Thanks very much. It would not do very good to like, show up in like another team's like your old school gear. I guess like Oklahoma state's probably acceptable. But like

Aaron 07:18

no, that's the problem was, you know, small town. Cool, because that's my other place. We didn't like, I didn't have anything for the first like few weeks. Like here. They're like, yeah, no, we don't put up with that. So is like all the stuff. I was like,

Brandon 07:36

Well, if you is this? I mean, another big thing is that, like, I was sitting there and you know, you know, I don't know, like, you go to a new school, you don't really get like, there's never been a real lay down and be like, Oh, here's a new coach. It just kind of more of like, you show up and you just start things. And then kids come up to you. And they're like, Are you the new job? Like, yeah. And so like talking to kids, I'm like, Hey, like, you know what to do this? And they're always like, Yes, sir. Yes. I'm like, oh, everyone's so nice. It was a respectful idea. That is actually nice. So different different species of humans. This one I'm going to is really good in football. They're really good at baseball. And softball.

Aaron 08:35

But a lot of their kids in baseball go and play at the next level. And so that's kind of a big thing for them. Their field is really nice. And they're getting turf field. So get to doesn't have to wake up super early and go take care of the field. Even right after rain, like 12 hours. I don't have to do that. So that's a that's a big bonus. Because he's like, Well, I do like tofield I'm like, Yes, please. Like, I'm

Brandon 09:07

good. We're getting it. It seems like now this is just my observation about not coaching. Okay. This is important to know, I don't know about coaching or anything but so it seems to me that I don't know when I hear turf field, I have very negative connotations because I always think about like, old style turf fields that were like horrible, like Yeah, or like the like Missouri State old turf like it was like bouncy and horrible, right? Like you just get like a Radburn on it. Like it was actually like very, very justifiable concern. What my thing is, you don't you have to replace this turf every few years anyway. Yeah, I and depends on company that's older my knowledge. So you can you can, you can replace it, I think every five years, I think. But the big the big selling point basically is like, depending on who the contractor is, as he puts it all in, you don't probably the kind of turf as well. But I know that the high school here in town, they have a turf football field, and they written, they have replaced it like, several times, I don't know, like, the time frame, I can't ever remember. Because you know, time is meaningless now. And I don't nothing makes sense. And so like, every couple years, I drive by, and like the like spring summer, and they are like, ripping it up and replacing it. So I feel like it sounds it's one of those things where you think about like cost benefits, right? And you're going like, well, you don't have to maintain it as much, you have to like water it mow it. You don't have to like field crew, but you don't have to, like replace the whole entire field every few years. So like, they like that maintenance cost is really, I feel like it would be more expensive to have a turf.

Aaron 11:23

It so it also kind of depends on the school that you're at. So my school or my new school has districts in baseball, like every year, like they hosted because they're usually really, really good.

Brandon 11:35

Well also, also the the problem here is like, if you have the best field, it's you you're you're you're gonna you're gonna host more tournaments and stuff. You get paid for that as a school. I never understood that. Yes. Okay. So so that were basically so part of so basically, your whole offset your is lost a little bit of that money that you charge, you have to set aside some of that for wear and tear on everything, including the turf. Yeah, yeah. So I can like, if you haven't had to fill this out, you know, let's say it rains, especially for districts, if you cancel the game, that puts you back in districts because he typically can't make up those games.

Aaron 12:17

And so in in districts are what they would like we're hosting a tournament, right? A big tournament you get about? Well, even like, at school, they're all their parents, there's a school fee, that each school has to pay either like, it depends on like, where you go, but long term. So we went to buy other players have like, you pay like an entry fee of like $150, kind of seven that goes like a chunk of that to the school. And so a lot of things like that. And, you know, you've made sessions, entry tickets, parking tickets. And now you're there for, you know, two days, you know, those same people coming back, you can get, you know, a few 1000 people that show up. And now, anywhere between five to $8 per ticket even more, you can most some of that goes in school, most of that goes into the athletic funds for that for questions. So you can make pretty good money doing that. And then over the summer, you do offseason tournaments, where you have no that said money goes to the sport in question. And so you make a lot of that money back on that end as well.

Brandon 13:33

Yeah, cuz you get like you said gate fees and all that stuff. Yeah, it's a weird, it's just, it seems like a really weird thing, a weird thing to think about, right? Because every time I hear people talking about that, like, why would you want that, but then I'm like, Well, you don't have to maintain it. But then you have to replace it. But then if you have a really nice field, you can have more tournaments at your place. So you get more revenue. It's a whole it's a weird thing. I mess up, my brain just spiraled down this weird rabbit hole, I'm sorry about that.

Aaron 14:04

My school that I'm at now, they they put a lot into their school at the community really support their education programs, and their athletic programs. Like they have a cap on, like maybe every year, because of like, all that stuff. And so financially, it doesn't really bother them because there's a big like booster club that's like, hey, what do you need? And when do you need it? Now we're not like the Union or the gym. So the world where they're like, you know, a practices,

Brandon 14:36

no option, just like, Can I have this piece? Because they have like a billion people in that school district. Like budgetary stuff you have to do but yeah, like it's a nice word be like, Hey, can we have this? And they're like, no, no. And so I mean, it's not like the nicest thing but it's still like pretty decent stuff for the school. We'll find that we have. So yeah, they're, they're putting her up on the softball field and the baseball field, the football field already has it because the place where I'm going football is like, and like they invent this. Because when I was at my first school is that we actually played them. And we had 14 kids and they had at

Aaron 15:24

what you get to one? And they, I mean, even then, like they're already going to the state, like and then estimates the state a year, I think they only lost somebody. But it was just like they, you know, they're gonna use it, they're gonna they're gonna host playoff games. They're gonna get money revenue from those playoff games. And so they're going to have nice facilities that gamut. And they, they sure do. I am. I'm very, very fortunate. There's a lot of coaches, you know, even where I'm going to call you. We wish we can go there and like, I know, hairstylist, so I'm very excited for this. After

Brandon 16:07

me, it's gonna be pretty fun oh, no, it's gonna be random question. So what are you good? Oh, no, I was gonna I was gonna ask if Yeah, if you've been any more, you're biking has been has been picking up for you. It's been too hot for me. So it's on hiatus for this last week, at least. The end of this week is looking a little better. So I might do some more there. But yeah, too hot for biking. Don't want to have heatstroke. So I'm staying inside. Challenge yourself. Come on, you got to find where that limit is. How are you healthy? It's pretty low limit by like, low threshold. Yeah, it's pretty low down. So like, you know, not fair enough. So, yes. Nice. Nice. Okay. Yeah, we've been we've been spending a ton of time at the pool. This past week, where it was actually like, almost too hot to be at the pool cup plays which is just just annoying to know. It's bad, right? Like too hot for this swimming pool. Come on. Well,

17:35

it's because it's so

Brandon 17:36

like, just the the deck of the pool is just obscene. Right? That's that's because the all the concrete surrounding it. It's so they should put turf on it. They should put turf boom. Why did they not? Yo, because they didn't ask. Consulting. Come on. But now we've been the kids have just been tearing up the pool this year. They're both

Collin 18:04

doing exceptionally well in the water to the point where now like, obviously, I'm still in the water with them. But like, no is because it's hot. Like I would just yeah, it would melt. Like Noah's jumping off the diving board in the you know, the 12 foot into the pool without any floaties on and blam. Just and swims unassisted all the way over to the ladder and climbs out and everything. So he's really doing well Lillian's up doing flips, and she's trying to do tricks off of it, which is equated to a few face plants off of the diving board. But, you know, you have to start somewhere.

Brandon 18:51

That's true. Nine on did not do that again. Exactly. You know, it's what a lot of what we learned is how not to not

Collin 19:02

find it's part of that. For sure. So that's been that's been fun to watch. I always I always enjoy seeing their their confidence grow at each time that they go into the pool. And

Brandon 19:16

so it's fun and all the lifeguards there are super nice and that's the other thing going on. I don't know if you knew there there's a nationwide shortage of lifeguards. Yeah, cuz that's how I was awful while we're have this. Yeah, I have heard that. Yeah. So like, um, most pools are like,

Collin 19:37

they're doing alternate weekends. So like every other weekend, they're just closed down some of our pools cuz we actually have two three pools in town, which is quite a lot. Now that I think

Brandon 19:49

that is, that is a lot of actually that's weird.

Collin 19:52

We have an indoor pool at our brand new community center and then we have two outdoor pools that are open to the public. and they are shunting lifeguards around between them. So some like basically not all pools are open all the time, like they were last year. Interesting. So they kind of so it's been Yeah, it's been interesting kind of track and follow with that. So every time we see lifeguards, we always thank them profusely. And if we find, you know, a manager or a head honcho somewhere, make sure

Brandon 20:24

that we tell them that please do everything you can keep them around. Right? Because they're, they are needed. Very, very much. So yeah. And it's been a been good, though, but a lot of fun. That's good. Yeah, that's always gonna be terrible. So

Collin 20:44

I know. And, you know, they can typically only confined you know, what, like, teenagers to go do it. And I know they would rather be doing not just sitting under an umbrella.

Brandon 20:57

Yeah, waiting for something to happen. So I get that. True, although, hopefully, if you have a good day, you do just get

Collin 21:06

to sit. So that's good, right? That's what you were hoping for, but not good days. I was thinking about that. Like, how, like you're taking a teenager. And obviously, there's a whole lot of discussions here about responsibility at different ages and blah, blah, blah, generational issues, and like, what we did in my day about kind of stuff, but like, teenagers now have this job of being lifeguard and they are now being put in the, in the sometimes probably very unfortunate circumstance where, yes, they are there to save a life. But we know that doesn't happen all the time. And now a teenager, a high school student, may have had to experience that in this job that they're performing. And I don't know how I think about that. I don't know that's

Brandon 21:51

true. There's a lot of responsibility to throw into a 17 year old, right? I will say, I will say that when we were younger, going to the pool, like, oh, man, I'm sure that adult life. I'm really glad that adult lifeguard has my back. And then like, I found out, I was like, what? Eight? And they're like, Oh, the person 17. Like, yeah, like, oh, wait a second here. That person's not as serious as I thought they were. Yeah, I didn't really think about that until I was in high school. And some of my friends paid what they did. They were lifeguards for the summer, right? That's what they did for the job. And I was like, Wait, hold on. Wait a minute here. And I never paid attention to this. Like really? Until within the past couple of years because we are taking our kids to the pool. And now I am in the water. Staring at the kid up on up in the life. Garden tower. Yeah. Going off. Oh, oh, my this person is not this person is like half my age. This person is not David Hasselhoff. What is wrong? Oh, my gosh. Very interesting right now. I don't know. I suddenly feel very uncomfortable. But obviously, we know there are responsible, chilled, responsible people at all ages. So this is not a thing. Yeah. And it's not like they don't do training and all that stuff, too. Right. So it's not like it's not like that, right? They have to pay for the certificate out of pocket and think it Yeah, first for it once they get the job. So like, it's not an inconsequential thing that they do. And they go through and they run drills and they stay practice and like, obviously the ones who are there are there and they want to be there. Or at least are tolerating it enough. So it just, it is weird for me to now be kind of like, on the opposite side of this. Of of Yeah, like growing up all the pools had quote unquote adults watching over us and now being like, oh, there are also children. But yeah, like, slightly older children. Oh, no. But I do every time I see them. I've you know, it's probably just, I guess an old man thing where I'm like,

24:07

really appreciate you. Thank you for being here. You make it you know, this is great.

Brandon 24:12

It's a very old man thing to do it. So Colin, actually 60 years old, hidden things, but also, you know, I don't know, like I I know that not enough people are told, like, good job. We appreciate you.

Collin 24:27

Right. Like that's kind of a fundamental. That's true that not a lot of people that and we've, we've talked about that on this very podcast about how we don't like how it's important to have that kind of feedback and, and input into your life. And so I

Brandon 24:42

turned it turns out over the last three years, literally no one is saying that to other people. So that's, that's what we learned. Oh, that's what we've learned here is that nobody says that. We just take everybody for granted. Exactly. No, you're 100% Nobody says nobody Nobody says like, to the random stranger of like, like,

Collin 25:04

thank you. I appreciate you, I know what you do is hard. Like, how simple, how simple to say that kind of brace for somebody to give them a little bit of recognition. Like, I'm not saying you have to go through them a parade or whatever, but saying thank you, and that what they do is meaningful to others that other people see the hard work that you're putting into it like that. I feel like that's important. And that not enough people do that. Not this not to put me up on a pedestal at all, because I generally don't say this, because usually I'm angry about something.

Brandon 25:38

Man, yeah. But I like, the more I think about these things and see the hard work, or people are doing it's like, you know, I'm just gonna go say thank you. Because I think that's important to do in this world. I definitely always do that to the dentist people. Right? Like, I'm like, superly overly nice to them. Because, number one, I have lots of questions. Right? Like, what made you decide to put your fingers in somebody's mouth for a living? Like, what was that decision? Like? And I want to ask them that, but they had their fingers in my mouth. So I can't write but like, Yeah, that's right. That old cliche of the dentist tries to talk to you. But they're all like, super nice, right? And, like, they do a good job. And, you know, when you're there, get your cavity filled. And you come out and it's like, you can go anywhere. And you know, there it's, it's usually a pretty good experience with the people that I go to, right. It's not bad. It's not whatever. There's a very negative stereotype around that part of dentistry like, oh, it hurts. It's the worst thing ever, right? We know, blah, blah. But like, I definitely tried to be like, specifically overly nice to them, because my pain threshold is in their hands. And I'm trying to a weird job. Right. Right. Like, they're taking care of my mouth, which is weird, right? But think about this is a very odd thing. Can't be there has got to be some days where that's like, actually the worst thing in the world. Right? Like, I can't be nice. I can't imagine how many is the awful thing. Not nice things that they see during the day, right? Yeah, exactly. Just like, how many people are like super grumpy with him? Right? Because they like, poke them a little bit. Right? Like, a state of some people's mouth where it's like, this is an ally. Yeah, that I am doing right now. I just I can't i guess i I see. I think about this a lot of the a lot of the invisible people in the world that make the world go round. Enter the field, the postal workers. Your trash, dude. Right? Yeah. Like, I should be the I should always react in an extremely positive, happy manner. Every time my trash gets picked up. And I need to like, like, it should be a joyful interaction. Right? Because they are removing literal crap away from me. So yeah, I don't have to touch it. It's like, wow. Like, it's been so humdrum. And then what happens like oh, they missed it. They were I missed it by an hour and now I'm angry at them for ruining my day. Like Excuse me. Oh, how dare you? How dare you not come to my house at the exact same time every day? Like every whatever Thursday or whatever they come? I don't know. Like, how dare you not show up at exactly 1210 like you did last week. Jack wagons just calm down. I know how important my trash is. It's like at that point you're like seriously really going down this road? Like you want to

Collin 28:59

like come on on or our postal workers who come by and deliver like I love the lady who comes by and does she's like super nice. I always I know they're very busy so I don't try and take up too much of their time every time I see them but you know I want to light conversation and be a happy face for them because it's I'm sure that again, you missed my mail you messed it up blah blah. Billions of letters go out a day and yours got off by one mailbox. I think you're going to be fine right like

Brandon 29:30

Sure. So colonies turning into Oh personnel he cares about his trash and mail. Right? That's what I get my mother in law so much grief about that. She'll be like, Did you Did you see the mail? No, I just like go out at some point in the late afternoon and it's there it is. She like goes out like immediately. What's in the mail? Like? Some like Walmart ads probably I don't know like, oh, yeah, I think useful. The other the other week,

Collin 30:06

I suppose last week, they got some love the letters off by one address, right. And again, I don't know how they make anything actually work because all I see is a somebody walking up with a wad of letters like in their hand. They're visible separation between them and they're just like, brutal blooper, here you go, I have no idea how their system actually worked. So it's amazing to me, and I'm in awe that I get anything remotely on time. This time they were off by one. And I had gotten a letter from somebody just to my just right next door. So of course, I have to go over and I'm going to take them, but then I'm also kind of curious, like, Did you get anything of mine, but they're not home, but they have a camera on their front door. So I don't want them feel like I'm snooping in their mailbox.

30:52

So I was like, Hey, I got your mail. So I'm just gonna put it here. And I wanted to see if you had anything. Nope. Okay, we're good.

Brandon 31:00

Yeah, I do that with my mailbox. Right. But like, they have cameras, right? All department, all our mailboxes just sort of down on the street. So I just go, oh, no, this is mine. This is next door to start in there. Yeah. And then I So anyway, I just, it was one of those. Me being overly like, I'm not stealing your mail. Hello, I'm friendly. We've met I've had to do that with the Amazon people before. Right? ever again. We live I live in these apartments, they're all look the same. So like, again, difficult, but I have you know, they send the if it's delivered by the Amazon people, they like take the picture of it. And you know, show them think. And so there's been at least one time in recent memory was like, that's that my door. Hold on. It's like walking around outside, like, Ah, this one. Jumbo out there. Like, you know that like you, like, you expected the package. And so like when you get the package from Amazon, you go like, go and open it and it's literally not yours. And you're like, Oh, what, um, I haven't actually ever done that. I always look at that, just in case to like, had to back up, and then go and find the person door that was missed. Like, Hey, your package you go. I think we might have done that once. Right? Yeah. Because it was like, they come in the bags, you know? And like, we got something also. And like, you don't mean like, sometimes they put if you order something that comes in like two bags or whatever. And so we did that we like written both open. We're like that out of that one. Is that just gonna knock me like, hey, sorry. I opened up the package. And did I was expecting something. And I was like, oh, nametags here. And I opened it up. And it was like, doll accessory. Creepy that you're holding a box full of doll accessories. Definitely add layers to this one. Not what I ordered. I hope so. That it was they were slashed. My package got delivered to

Aaron 33:42

the like my upstairs neighbor. And then like bathroom, neighbors got mine. And so like I had ordered I can't remember like, what I know what it was like. related. And so but like

Brandon 33:54

to go over there. Hello, um, I believe. Did you get a package? That's actually mine. And like, is titled, open up the door. She was like, a Muslim like 19 or something. But she looks super young. Like, open it just like a smidge. He's like, are you Aaron? Like, yeah. Like, and I like a cold war movie. Like what is this? You're in right now? Yeah, the crow flies had been that we that we share that? What a crazy misunderstanding. Am I was like held the box out, cook it. What was the door? I was like,

Aaron 34:43

crap. And I go rummaging, and she goes get my package. And she brings it back. And like doesn't say anything, like closing the door. And I just leave. So now there's kind of like we're either ordered a package like really says there'll be a name on it. Like I don't see that because I just like, package. And then you have to explain to your fiance like why your package is open like what you see. I thought that was something

Brandon 35:15

accidentally clearly. Oh, I saw we're talking about saying thank you to people like now. Yes. In mail and yeah, that's what I've been doing. I also found that this week you'd have to go places to say thank you to them. So I haven't been doing that because I've been hiding. However, I made a discovery. Oh, all right. It's very long. Chin up. Here's the here's the chain of events. Right. Recall, on an earlier podcast, I was talking about movies that I had seen. They were on TV late at night, and I had no idea what the name was. Right. But I only remember very certain parts of this movie. Okay. I don't remember episode that was in. Last week, it was watching the show on the Discovery Channel, right about it was about the people that the French people that tried to fly across the ocean before Lindbergh like a month before him. Right. They crashed mysteriously. And nobody actually knows where they are. And the show was about them and like trying to find out where the crashes but it was that expedition unknown show where they do a lot of that kind of stuff. Pretty awesome. Anyway, I was thinking about like, early aviation plane crashes, right. And I remembered the snippets of this movie that I had seen on television late at night, like 20 years ago, when me and Cory were probably staying up and playing Tony Hawk Pro Skater in the basement. So I did many, many furious Google searches. And I found it. Oh, and I watched it. So I have for you. Very brief movie review of the great Waldo pepper from 1975. Oh, that's the name of this movie that I watched. I found it. Now this movie stars. Robert Redford. The world's oldest man. This man has never you looked young in his entire life. Ever. He's always looked old. So the first problem I have this movie is he's supposed to be like this young kid. He's like 45 years. Right? Anyway. So this movie is about Waldorf ever played by Robert Redford. He's like a pilot. Right. So his backstory is he was a pilot in World War One. This movie takes place in a pro 1920s Right. 26 Maybe? Question mark. He's a pilot. So his kind of backstory is that he was a pilot in World War One. What he was like, instructor Yes. However, he is like super enamored with this, like German World War One flying ace. No, not Snoopy. A guy named Ernst Kessler. Right. So like, there's apparently a very famous story about this fictional character in this movie universe. About this like dogfight that he was in it was all crazy and everything. And so Waldo tells everybody that he was in that dogfight. Right that's his deal. Right? So he impresses all the people. He like flies around to small towns in the 20s. And he like takes people for rides in his biplane. He does like tricks. He tells him the story to give him more money right? That's kind of how it works kind of like a con kind of like a traveling showman type deal. Interesting. What do you call it? Con Air he shut up. I go I was good. Really over here. So this this is this works until he meets somebody that actually knew that people in the in the In the dogfight Whoopsie, Daisy, he like gets into this altercation with this other pilot named Axel, who is like moving in on his territory, right? But then he like, sees him later. The whole thing anyway. So him and Axel and actual girlfriend, Mary, I have notes on my phone here Piglet, who has definitely played by Susan Sarandon. They're like they decide to go into business together to make money, right? So they kind of like team up. You know, they practice doing stuff, blah, blah, trying new learn new stunts and whatever. The traveling around by yourself is not going very great, right? They talk about how it's like, oh, it's just his newfangled airplane people just getting so dang used to him. They don't want to come out and see him no more, you know, so they joined like a traveling air show situation. Later try to push the boundaries and blah, blah, blah, may decide like, oh, wing walking. That's the ticket. Right? Oh, one of the scenes I remember from this movie, they're trying to practice a stunt, where he like jumps from a car to a ladder underneath a biplane. And then like the ladder crashes into the barn. I remember that from watching the movie late at night long time ago. Anyway, so I knew I was on the right track here. So to do that he's recovering. They decide wing walking. That's the way to go. Right. And so they do this crazy stunt to get people to come see, right they like put Susan Sarandon out on the wing and they fly like real low through the town. And she like screams in peril like Oh, no. And all the people like run out and they try to come see the show. But then she actually gets scared. And she like, won't come in. And she's like stuck on the wing. And there's this sequence where like, the axle is flying her. And then like Waldo goes up and another plane jumps from one plane to another and like, tries to get her and he she dies. She like falls off and dies. Blam. Then, then, then they're like, that aviation commission newly formed comes in says, I'm sorry, you can't fly. And then he's mad. While there was mad that he can't fly planes anymore. Even though because he was involved in this stunt that totally killed this woman. He's like, wasn't my show. I was just just just how I remember I like he's like mad that his reckless actions led to her death. But he's upset that he can't fly planes as well. Yes. Right. So share fly, so he's all sad. He's been working on this, like new trick. His friend like is building him a new plane, whatever. But he can't fly it. And the friend goes, Well, I'll try the trick. Because he's a pilot too, right? Whatever. He's like this a different friend, not actual, somebody else? And he's like, Yeah, I'll try it. And he's like, I won't try it if you tell me not to. Obviously, he doesn't tell him not to of course. Right. And he tries it like couple times, and then he crashes the plane at the air demonstration. Yeah, shocking. And so they run out there and they try to get them out. And then all the spectators run out to see because he is playing crash. So they all want to get real close and look at him. Right. And there. He's trying to pull him out. And he's stuck. And this is the other part I remember. They have the crowd is all smoking because it's the 20s obviously, and the plane catches on fire. And they do to stuck in the plane. And he starts freaking out about don't let me burn which I in my mind had concocted more backstory to why this was upsetting to him, but it comes out of like literally nowhere. He started screaming this. Well. I mean, I thought maybe there was context. No, no, no backstory. Well, no backstory for anybody else, obviously, just just Robert Redford. So he, like he can't get him out of the plane because his legs are broken. And he's like, crammed in this, the planes that crash upside down. He can't get him out. So he like, clubs him in the head with this two by four. And then he like burns, right? He like knocks him out and he's dies. And then all the people are standing there watching him burn to death. And this upsets Waldo greatly. So he goes and gets in another plane and starts like furiously buzzing the crowd. So they all run away, which is definitely safe. Right? And but he jumped in some random plane and it runs out of gas and he crashes into the fare. So now his one year flight ban has permanently permanently revoked. So he's mad. He can't he can't understand why he can't fly planes anymore. So we You heard, like, the consequences of his own actions mean nothing. And he can't fly a plane but he's super mad about this. It's unfair world is unfair, you know? Yeah. So he does what any sane person would do. He goes to California and changed his name somebody else. He moves to California and changes his name to like Brown, right, obviously. And he gets work as a movie stunt person, because Axel is out there now. And he is out there being a stunt person kind of like can sing in the rain, you know, where they're like, stop cut, and they get the guy dressed up as him to come in. And then they punch him in the face and like falls off the banister. It's like he's that guy. He's the stunt guy. But Hollywood is shooting a movie about this famous dogfight that took place in World War One with Earth's Kessler. Right. And they get hired to be pilots in the movie. Right. And so, it turns out that one of the consultants on the movie is here, Kessler, right. Yes, I know who saw that one coming. Literally everyone. They have a lot of discussions together. Right about like, the good old days, and I only feel free in the air, bro, whatever. They talk about the dogfight and all that stuff. So they go to film the next scene, which the commissioner guy, the air Commissioner guy comes out California and he's checking on stuff and he's like, Hey, what are you doing here? Buddy? He's like, not nothing. Totally not flying planes on the movie set. Anyway, him and Earth's Kessler reenact this dogfight. But they have so much respect for each other that they start dogfighting like for real to see who's better. You know, okay, we're twit and they don't have like guns but they like clip each other's planes and stuff too weird. Like, like do like fly by like real close and like snap the cross braces on the biplane? You know, I'll I don't I don't really know. I didn't really understand this part was like, why would you like to see who's better? Right? And then, like, Kessler gets his like wing thing snapped. Waldo here has got his, his landing gear is gone. Right got snapped off. They fly by each other. And they salute. And then Robert Redford like veers off and it's a shot of him like flying through the sky. Where he dies off screen. Huh? That's the end of the movie. Wait, what? Yes. I'm assuming his plan was to damage to like land right now. Because like, it's ambiguous, like you don't know. But like, the very closing shot is like a bulletin board with like newspaper cutouts. And it's like, his obituary on it. Right. So, presumably, he dies off screen. So, so the main character this movie learns absolutely nothing from any of his actions. Right. He kills Susan Sarandon, which is a shame. It's my second favorite Susan. Right. Obviously. He is directly responsible for his like, friend's death in this plane crash. Right? He's banned from flying, but he flies anyway. Because he doesn't care about the rules, bro. And then like, thinking he's like, somewhat heroic has the decency to die off camera like what is this movie is terrible. Right now. Worse. Now? Are the flying parts kind of cool looking? Yes. Except for the part where they're like clearly flying over like 1970s Northern California. Cool. I mean, Nebraska at the beginning, right? Definitely. Whatever. Like the flying sequences are cool, too interesting, right? It's kind of cool, but like the plot of this movie, and like Waldo pepper. is a horrible human being maybe by 1970 standards. This was like heroic or something. I don't really know what watching this movie now. He's a jerk man like, sounds like a person. He's an awful person who doesn't care about anybody else. Or the fact that his actions like directly hurt people, he does not care. And he doesn't even have the decency to die on screens. I guess you're supposed to be like maybe he's alive and change his name again to something else. Or maybe he died like I think that's what they're going for. But like now, again, he's a die like a fiery ball of fire, right. So, I,

Collin 50:35

I cannot find where we talked about this on a previous episode, and I am searching the entire site in show notes and everything. What I what I would like to know is what did you remember of this of the of the TV show? of the movie? Alright,

Brandon 50:52

the only two scenes I remember. I remembered that it was about like barnstorming airplanes. Right? And so that's the Google searching that led me here. Not lots of movies about barnstorming. Right. Shocking. I know. I remember that. He was like a barnstormer pilot. So like, early 20s. Pilot, right. I remembered crashing into a barn. So like, in the movie, there's a scene like he they're trying a new stunt and so Axel is flying the plane. Susan Sarandon is driving the car. And Robert Redford is trying to jump from the car to the plane. Right, I remember that part. Well, I remember the crash into a barn. I remembered crashing into a barn. I did not remember the context in which they crashed into a barn. But I remember crashing into barn. And I remember the scene where the guy is burning alive. And he hits him with a two by four. Remember that part? Again, my brain made up more context than was there. Because like, this dude, just like shows his like, one of his best friends, whatever. Like just like shows up in the movie. Is there for like, five minutes and the dies. And so you're like, Wow. I mean, I don't care like and he starts like, he starts screaming like, don't let me burn. And I, I had imagined that there was like, context for this statement. Like, maybe somebody he knew this happened to them. Right? Like, maybe they had talked about how this was a bad part of crashing. But no, no just sort of happens. You're like, whatever. Like. So those are the two things I mostly remember. Flying and biplanes. I do remember something about wing walking. Right? But there was a lot less of it, then I remember. Like, unless I have seen multiple movies about people when walking on biplanes, which doesn't sound plausible. I mean, I guess it's possible, but that doesn't sound likely. Like that's, that's what I remember. From like, whenever I saw this movie 20 years ago, on late night, movie television was like on Fox it like 12 o'clock or something. So, yeah, so did it. So it sounds like it didn't quite live up to your memories. And it sounds like No, sounds like the movie I was imagining was far superior. That's what I saw. This is what I've gathered. Right? The movie in my head is way better than the Great Wall they've ever the Great Wall of February is a not good movie. Right? Ooh. I think it's bad. Okay. So unless there are more movies, which there might be Now, this is more research. I found like one other movie that's about this. So if I can find a place to watch that, I will give you my report on that. But that's what that's where we're at here. That's, yeah, you're out of the presses. hot off the presses of 1975 1975 is a great wallpaper. Yeah, not so great. Kind of not great. It not a very interesting movie. Waldo is kind of a jerk. So, yeah, I'm gonna keep looking because it appears like when I Googled this, there are more a couple movies that are older. So like, What are you searching for when you start? How are you finding more like barn crashing biplane movies? Is that what Yeah, right. That's why this is difficult, right? I was looking at like, it gave me a list of other movies that like, are about planes and some of them are like, they're all kind of about like, World War One flying. But like so we'll see. Ah, I'm gonna do some more investigating, but I think it's possible plausible that this is the movie that I watched there's really no way to know. But yeah, that's pretty close. I remember you talking about the the barn crash, which I gather I cannot. I don't remember what I've said. That's in. I talked about that in another movie. That now I feel like I'm gonna need to look for and see if I can give you more late night movie Fox late night movie reviews. 20 years later. I like these. I like these like, kind of like, almost like, fugue state movie reviews. I think that's a mystery. Yeah, I guess good. Like, very hard to discover. Even harder to find online to watch, let me tell you. So that is, yeah, might have more. Next week. Stay tuned for fugue state Movie Reviews. part two. Part two. Part two. Because now that I'm looking at this other movie, he looks similar. Weirdly. I'm gonna check that out and see if it's better or worse. Or at least similar. So there we go. There is one. The many random movies that I have seen parts have a long time ago and have no idea what they're called. Yes, it's maddening. Right. It's absolutely maddening. Not knowing if you're right. Could this be it? I don't know. So we'll find out. That's what I was doing this week. I was watching that movie, trying to discover if that was the movie that I remember. Or not? I don't know. I feel like I should say like, sorry, I don't know. Either way, either way. If it isn't the movie I remember. It's not good movie. Don't watch. Now Susan will tell you. Of course. It's not good. It has Robert Redford in it. So well, at least it wasn't awful looking. Right? How was the PSAs that was how was any already said it looked nice during the dogfight you're flying farts are shot. Cool. I mean, it looked like a 70s movie. Like it wasn't like it was just like, whatever. Was it? Yeah, like 70s movies just have a certain look about them. Right? Like, even if it's not a period movie, because like when you watch smoking of any like 70s like? Absolutely. Like, they just look a certain way. You know, like, for the most part, like, other than like Star Wars I guess. Like they just have a look like the way the film was everything was booked like that. That's what it looks like. It's fine. They were costumes are moderately correct, I suppose for the 1920s the plains of cool. There's that. Again, while the pepper is an absolute jerk. So like, just

Collin 59:25

like what they were trying to do with that character. It kind of reminds me of what they did to Harry Potter in the movies where he just like, he's just he's just awful for no reason. Like, there's just genuinely no reason for him to be awful with all of his friends in like, sections of the book and then in like a major part of the movies where like you're just being

Brandon 59:46

really big jerk right now. And there's no rhyme or reason. Yeah, that's the part that always bothers me about that too. Like, you have to be like, Okay, I understand like dark magic glass teenager Right so like sometimes it'd be an idiot, but it's one of those like really annoying. Yeah, maybe they're kind of making like human or human and not like just a stalwart like white knight character. You know? Like I can slightly more dynamic. Not like Waldo who just is like a static make static main characters. Wow, there you go. That's fun. What if? What if they never changed? Yeah, that's the best. That's the weirdest part about this movie is like, the dynamic character. The person that changes is his friend. Who's not the main character. Oh, that's weird. It's so bizarre. Like, he doesn't learn anything. Like even a relatively straightforward character like Rocky Balboa like, learns and progresses himself and changes. Right? You know, like, not Waldo pepper, though, like this? Well, same character, the whole movie. I mean, he's such a lovable character anyway, why would he's not?

1:01:09

That's the weird. That's

Brandon 1:01:10

like, couldn't figure out like, why does this like what you say? Like, why does this movie exist? Like, what? What are we learning here? Right. Like, he's not overcoming something. Right? He's not, like, surmounting great, or even like a movie character. Like, a, like a any, any Western John Wayne movie, right? Like, not exactly the most dynamic character. Right? But you're overcoming something, you're standing up to something. Right? You're like, fighting for something. Right? You know, at least John Wayne was fighting for like, another person. Right? Like not you know, real Bravo is not like John Wayne being like,

1:01:59

Man, why are these guys not like me? Okay, and understand that why don't they just let

Brandon 1:02:03

me do what I want. Like, now. Nice. He's fighting like bad guys. Right? You know? Even if even the simple cut and dry Western like, I will say I am the good guy. You do bad guy things I fight you. Like even that wrestling storyline makes a good movie. Whereas like, Waldo, like I'm a kind of a selfish jerk. And I do self a jerk things. And then other people pay the consequences. And I just keep living my life. Like what is this? Well anyway, I'm fine. So I'm your problems are so weird. Like, doesn't make any sense at all. So I go, there is my review of the Great Wall of pepper at random Movie Review corner today. Stay tuned next week, because it looks like I might be watching another movie about biplane pilots after world war one that I just found. So maybe this is the one it's I don't know. Compare and contrast between these two movies. That's what drove braded mad. Yes, this is going to be right here. What exactly? What is this memory I have? So what should I remember? It seems like it you know, I remember you describing like, yes, burning pretty far. And if this if this other reason. I'm going to watch how scenes that are very similar. I'm going to be staggered. Like how there was just why just a rash of movies over the course of a 10 year period where the like the big thing was a plane crash in a barn. That was like how many of the Yeah, I don't think wild. Okay, now we're really excited. I have to I want to watch another one now, like, Okay, we'll see if this one's better. Maybe it's just a better movie. Who knows? Ah, yeah, then you could definitely give a if you two have been suffering from this fugue state movie memory, you should instead watch this one and it will satisfy it equally more. I might have asked you but do you guys have any of these memories of like, I vaguely recall this scene in a movie. I have no idea what the movies from. I have no other guiding concepts of this. Yeah, I I, I I don't have something like, unfortunate it's just a it's just a side effect of staying up too late and watching whatever was on network television. It really could. I There's been times like, I can't think of like a song or something. And I'm sure there is like a movie. Like, I'm sure there's been a theme. I'm like, What movie is this summer, like a certain wine or something? Like I hear that from Ah, but we were listening to music today. And we probably have guys that we are that that I had wasn't doing college.

Aaron 1:05:26

They kind of do like cover songs and stuff like that, and not like, they do this song. And there's a thing in it. But what does that song I spent about 30 minutes is rummaging through my memory by saying until I found like, something that resembled a sound or like a certain lyric. And so I finally found it after searching for it for like, 30 minutes, but there's been times where I'm like, I hear I hear like a phrase or something. I was, like I said in the movie.

Brandon 1:05:58

What what? Yeah, so I do that's why I shut my brain down from all house like all other functions, to hyper focus on that one thing because I used to do I know that song and then it just goes, it's a spiral. So yes, yes. I just I did I have these again, I've mentioned this before. And whatever Episode This was, I don't remember but like, the snippets of movie scenes, and I can't I have no other context for them. It's so weird. Like it's the strangest thing now that the internet is better? Because I've tried searching before. And then it didn't have answers for me now that Reddit is a thing. Somebody might have answered this question somewhere else. So we can also link up on a global network of people who are eating this. It's true listeners. Help me out here. If you have ever seen a different movie about biplanes and barnstorming let me know. Weird boys. Now because I saw fly boys in a movie theater. Fly boys has the Pearl Harbor problem of like, it's a good movie. And all of a sudden they like and love story. Like, what? Why? Watch the condensed version on the body. TV, take all that out. I can't remember which channel it was. But there was I think it might it even might have been like USA or something. But like, yeah, we've cut a lot of these things. Like condense it to run on like, normal. Enjoy, and then they took all out. I'm like, Oh, I didn't know people could do that. I thought they had to keep the love interest. Interesting in there. And it was so cool to be like, Oh, this is actually out. I got home. So you actually get to watch like a World War One. Movie. And so like, Oh, this is actually kind of cool. So yeah, I mean, the movie was fine. Like it's a pretty good movie. I'm gonna say five ways. Better than Pearl Harbor. Well, Kurt lamb. I mean, it is like it makes more sense as a movie. Because at least the love story in flyboys like is contextual. Right? Like, sort of make sense. Like it's, it feels like it doesn't need to be there, but it is not just completely shoehorned. Like it is safe for our for the like, anyway. Blam, get there and make these two best friends fight over Kate Beckinsale. Like what? Why? Yeah, cares. I don't know. Like, whatever. Like, it's just so like, forced and bizarre. That movie is such a bizarre movie. Like, it really doesn't have a tone. That makes sense. Right? Like, it's all over the place. It's weird. Like Michael Bay, what are you doing? Just make an action movie. Right. It's fine. You can do that. It's okay. So, yeah, this week, I will give you updates next week about the search continuing. If there's any more movies I stumble upon, I'm sure I'm sure it's an endless, endless rabbit hole going down. Indeed. Well, yes, that's true. I mean, it's not like am busy, currently true, you know? stuff and although what date? Oh, the tour is starting very soon. So that's important. Important Things are not here. So that was my morning. Afternoon is free clear got nothing so let me think about the official start date. I think it's the first of July. Yeah. And Denmark, right. Yep. Oh, man. The spring races have been going pretty nuts the your buddies in the back back on the tour to which buddy? Oh, sorry. No, nevermind. I saw Yeah. All this from 2021. No. I keep hearing that. I don't know that. I haven't heard anything about final team selection. No, I haven't. I'm looking at general raking and PokerStars. Way up there. Yeah. Maybe I'm interested to see how. Oh, what's his name? The jamboree is my brain just went blank. Oh yes, yeah. Yeah, yes. Uh huh. Yeah. So you have a visa was still looking good. Henry's more about the teams this week. He has gone. I think your boy is. I think he's gonna be in there again. You're by Chris. Looking like he's making a return? I'm Yeah, I don't. I'm interested. See? He's on such a small team, though. Yeah, what? And what he's looking like, just what can you think of I think of condition and what kind of team is surrounding him? In the strike? him? I don't know. I don't know. much about is he still on the Israel team? I have to look. Because team selection is Israel prayer attack. Yes. Pretty small. Peters on a new team. I know. So that'd be where he did pull some of his buddies with him, like Daniel asked him and somebody else some of his big guns came with. That's it's good. Of course, to have a website who has heard doing an on an updating list of team team rosters as they as they get down and complete it. Oh, well, that's why it's so weird. Because some of those teams they have like, I mean, they sponsor like a billion riders, but then the only you know seven or whatever it is eight I remember come. So some of them especially real big teams, like quick step, floors and all that. So be very interesting. Quick tip only has reconfirmed on as cool. I've got a Markov checkup done and as green Oh, sure. Vanderpol for Alison I feel like one of the great underperformers of the grit of the Tour de France anyway, his poor old Nyro I feel so bad about Nyro right. Just done lots of other stuff like zero. He's done really good. There's nothing like the Tour de France port Nairo. Right. I can now Bahrain, check ego. Okay. Well, we'll call Matthews SIMON Yeah. Oh, bikeexchange looks interesting. Any us? I mean, even even bikeexchange Jayco from Australia only has for Dylan Greta vagan. Michael Matthew Simon gates. Luke Gomez get. Those are some good names right there. We will continue reading people's names on a list offline. Yes, of course. tell you all about our predictions for 2022 Tour de France. Next week jam packed show. Another few fake movie review and 2022 Different movie particular predictions. I love it. Yeah, you're a game. I know Aaron loves T movie star so it'd be okay. I have no idea what he really well, no, I mean Aaron's big fan of total entities with it. I know I'm interested to see a brand new team. What Peter? But none of his buddies are on this list, which is weird. Like, oh, how are you going to get Daniel on your team? And then like, not put him on the roster? That dude is a machine like ooh, yuck. Yeah, UAE Emirates, though. Per Gotcha. Mica, George Bennett, Matteo Trentin. Yo, that's some. That's some firepower right there. I've had quite a bit of money to throw at this as well. That's true. Interesting things that the UAE is doing in the sports world. Bizarre. Did you hear the divet? The Golf? The Oh, golf world. Okay. So Oh, okay. I don't understand what's happening. I read something about golf, people being angry. And so I just imagined like, it was some weird thing that got angry about because golfers

Collin 1:16:20

basically paid, they basically did a guaranteed purse to a huge list of people to come play this tournament of like, we're talking about, like, millions of dollars. They're throwing at individual players, individual people to come and play in this tour.

Brandon 1:16:39

And so is this the li v tour thing? I think? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. And so basically people are super angry because it is

Collin 1:16:49

well, a people don't like that they're these people are going to go play for the UAE who has some questionable things going on politically or whatever with them. Because they didn't get invited. They're mostly Mexican. Yeah. Yeah, it's it's because they started this brand new tournament, and they're paying a huge cash amounts to these people. And it's basically left a huge chunk of the golf world going well, what about the other two tours? Right? What kind of like their own like, the UAE is private? Golf Club. Yeah, up to a lot of people. And so it's very interesting to see them making these other plays in other sports, like sponsoring the

Brandon 1:17:36

their own team here with that. Yeah. That was really weird. I didn't fully understand this. I like, I don't know, I saw a headline about Phil Mickelson the other day. It's like, Oh, I know that name. Okay, whatever. But if that's all it is, okay. I could see. Golf is weird, right? Because, like, people that golf care about, like the integrity of the sport of golf. Right. Like, that's why they don't like that some people don't like John Daly. Right, because he's loud and shouty and kind of a jerk. But like, he, like he's a really divisive figure because he's not like, like all hoity toity golf, the history Scotland raw. Like, that's what people care about. They care about golf. Right. And so they could see that it would make them upset, if like, a random place was like, Hey, we're gonna give these in the Middle East is weird, too, because they're only going to pay the people that they want to see, to come. So in that way, you are like not giving, like the PGA. Like, if you meet certain criteria, you're on the tour, right? Whatever. Like, there's a list of things you have to have like a certain, some convoluted system, but like you can get your quote, pro card and be a professional golfer and go to PGA events. And then if you're good, then you like, win. And that's how you become a known golfer. Right? So it is weird. That, like they would just pay. Like only the top guys if they want to watch golf.

Collin 1:19:26

Yeah. Yeah, no, it's I think they invited basically 40 Like over 40 people to come and do this. They have signed up. And there are rumors. I think the PGA Tour has basically said if you go play with them, we're banning you from the rest of ours. And you want to fight with a long fight with them. Because because there are eight out what was a reading there like seven, seven stops or whatever, each one will pay out $25 million.

Brandon 1:19:56

Yeah, I mean, if you want first of all, if you got invited to that you don't need to be on the PGA Tour anymore, right? You're famous enough that doesn't really matter. Right? So that's it's weird. I can understand why you're upset. But like, basically they only want like the Hall of Fame golf dudes anyway. Right? They want to see them play golf, which is uh, I don't know why you want to do that anyway but like I could see why that would make people angry. Like I don't care cuz I don't care about golf, but they do do this with other things like I know that like so this is tangentially related to like, with like, the WWE they have this relationship with like Saudi Arabia. Like once a year they do a Pay Per View Show in Saudi Arabia, which is extraordinarily divisive. Right? Because number one, Saudi Arabia human rights record of bad they don't the women thing is rough. Especially because like WWE has like a huge roster of female wrestlers that don't get invited to the show. Because if you've seen what women wear to wrestle that's not allowed. It's not good to women did have a match last year and they basically had to wear like T shirts or pants like sweatpants like that's that's what they had dress. Which is weird, because you see like Brock Lesnar out there and just like shorts, like, guys. It's odd, but yeah, it's similar to that, like they only pay like, they'll pay like big money for like the people that they want to see come. Right. And it's never like, people that are like, over like, right now. It's always like, we want Hulk Hogan like what? He doesn't, like I read that they they had they give a list to the WWE. People who they want to see half of the people were like, dead, right, like yeah, they're trying to start something there. No, it's like, oh, yeah, they don't know. Right? They're just like, oh, yeah, we you they see online like, oh, yeah, Yokozuna? He's great. Like, he's been dead for a while. I think so. Like, like, yeah. Like, I just know that they're famous. And they want them like they're not here. Like, like, oh, yeah, we want macho man to wrestle. That's not can happen, because he's also very dad like crazy. So yeah, it's just really weird. It's really weird. Like, I guess if you have like, two gajillion dollars in oil money, you can make really weird demands of people. Right, like, fair enough. Yeah, I wasn't really sure about the golf thing.

Collin 1:23:00

And I just, I said, UAE, that actually is Saudi back, it is not Saudi back. So I need to correct that for the record. Sorry. Yes. So the human rights and all those things issues are, are very much present with that amongst the same controversies as well, like wrestling over people are concerned about that, where the money's coming from, basically, they call it sports washing. Have you heard this term?

Brandon 1:23:23

No, but it makes a lot of sense. Right? I can sort of get the mean image, right. Yeah. Trying to improve their image at a global stage through involvement in sports. So it kind of softens their image where people go, Oh, yeah, it's that tournament from that company. And they are that that country they stopped stop associating other you know, crimes or whatever with them and go, Oh, they're the ones who have that really cool. Sports thing. Sports thing? Yeah. So apparently, if they if they known strategy for raising your profile on a date. I mean, that makes sense, right? People care about bread and sport, right? That's what they want. Taylor's oldest time that literally, but like, I could see that. I could. It's just it seems weird to me to do that. Right. Like, I think but again, that makes sense. Right? Like, oh, yes, we want Saudi Arabia to have a more positive image. So we'll put golf tournament first of all. Thanks, Saudi Arabia. One thing I don't think about golf. Right. Exactly. We'll see. There's no association there. So you just like 100% sand trap disappears in the backyard. So like, most excellent golfers come, obviously. Yes, yeah, but like. Also, just side note, like all these golfers talk about like the history In the glory of not 0% of them are wearing kilts golfing I just want that to be known. Like come on who you fallen? Not nobody Kretzmann Yeah, it seems like it's a weird thing, right like this. This this World Cup is in Qatar, right? In the it's gonna be in the fall. It's like November or something. Because it's you know, 1000 degrees in Qatar and nobody wants to play soccer when you'll just die. heatstroke right so that's the weird, it's like a, you know, sports washing. Interesting. I'm not saying that Qatar has a giant history of human rights violations, but like they do sort of get lumped in with Saudi Arabia because they're just like, right there. They're very tiny, you know, socially Association, I suppose. oil money anyway. So yeah, that's fine. probably isn't the word I would use to describe that. And on that bombshell All right. Love you guys.

1:26:18

Bye bye.