Dirty rotten magic pixies

After surviving a week of the pandemic. Aaron has been battling new rules. Collin is shockingly still at work. Who doesn’t love a detour through Studio Ghibli? We end up in a quagmire of economic ramblings. Whistling past the graveyard, Mr. Nero?

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Collin, Aaron, Brandon

 

Collin  00:05

Welcome to Oh, brother, a podcast of three brothers trying to figure it all out your hosts, Brandon Collin and Aaron, on this week's show. Dirty Rotten

 

Aaron  00:18

Pixies Tell me what you want me to do. If it makes me not drive 40 minutes just as send in an email like, I'll I don't care, I'll do it. So I'm just just kind of waiting for them to finally meet because that no one in any of our major offices or any of our departments I've actually met have been like, Alright, what are we doing? Everyone's just been like we're gonna do this. Oh, we need to talk about this. Oh, we're not gonna meet and talk about that. I hear sounds like Missouri Well fine I don't care just don't do this let me just let me do something please so there's been there's been that but I'm still just kind of waiting and seeing what's happening and if I if I get if I get to stay home just do nothing but typing that is fine. I mean, that's the ideal situation. Yeah, like, but we have show me my self I've spent listening time watching a lot of Netflix shows. Like there is one that is you I think you guys would definitely enjoy. I don't know if you've seen it on social media. But did you watch the tiger King? Yes. Did you really? Yes. Oh my gosh. It It is. It is so mind blowing. And then you look so weird. It's so it's it nothing happens or what you think is gonna happen?

 

Brandon  02:00

That's what I keep hearing.

 

Aaron  02:01

And so it's just like, Oh, this is the thing. And then it's like, like there's something else happens or like, does it make it even weirder that he's like, yo, one of these dudes is like two hours from my house. That's messed up. So that's actually like several hours from me. Now he mentioned it. It is how far did we figure it out? It's three hours. I was close. But yeah, it is. I'm bad at Oklahoma geography. Well, so it was there's a show that I used to watch or I still watch. It's called Last Week Tonight with john oliver. Oh, yes. And they did a promo. Or they did a segment talking about third party runners for the presidential candidates. And this guy was totally ran for president as a home party. That's where I've seen him before. And you're right. They've got to they bring up that segment, and the whole time I'm watching the show and I'm like, This guy looks familiar but in a good way or not. That's what I was thinking from like the memes and stuff that I've been seeing like, man, where have I seen that guy before? And so right that's what it's from. Oh my gosh. Yeah, so it's, it is a very, like, it's it's one of those once in a lifetime things just to watch. say like, Oh, actually a world that happens.

 

Collin  03:29

It's, I can't

 

Aaron  03:33

we're gonna watch it again. For sure. just just just because like when I finished watching it,

 

Collin  03:39

I was like, Is that real? Can I really just what

 

Aaron  03:42

cuz there's things so it kind of at first it kind of reminded me of when the I don't know if you guys remember when the mermaid documentary came on the discovery.

 

Collin  03:54

Channel did that weird Bigfoot one too. It was like,

 

Aaron  03:57

Yeah, that one word a word. hated it. As Oh, This is real, but it was totally fake. That was like garbage. And so like, I had that vibe going into this, and I'm like, there's no way this is real. Like, there's no chance that this is real. And I'm sure Siobhan has as it keeps going on and on, it's like, holy crap, it's real. And then they brought up that segment. And I was like, Oh my god, this is crazy. And so, so we've been watching that. Which, if you get an opportunity, just watch the first episode. Just get your feet in the water. Just so you know what everyone's kind of talking about. I don't I don't really jump on, you know, big social things. But we kind of watched this like, a week ago, or a few days ago, actually before it kind of blew up on social media. And we were basically the pioneers, obviously. Yeah, the first round.

 

04:58

It was you and Kim Kardashian. Right,

 

Aaron  05:00

you're right there. And so it's, I would just recommend watching the first episode, and that this was a real thing. This is a whole universe of weirdness. big cat

 

Collin  05:16

owners, and

 

Aaron  05:18

it's it's a weird underworld of, of that kind of stuff. And so yeah, I can the latest news on it. I'm referring to that he was suing for over $93 million. I guess he was shooting for $94 million, the fish and wildlife, his former partner and several other people for damages and he is currently seeking a presidential pardon. Yeah, so yeah, he is definitely getting this administration. It's no problem. He did kind of word about that by his by his partners that he was looking

 

Collin  05:55

outside.

 

Aaron  05:58

I see. I was switching back and forth between people I liked and who I didn't like, because it was like, Oh, this person's believable. And then like the next episode, you're like, Oh, I don't like them at all. And I'm like, Oh, this person seems sane. And then they do like a whole segment on them and you're like, Okay, we think that person's very good. So that's the whole thing with with this this guy, this Joe exotic person or it's just like, oh, he's actually doing it for the care of animals and then they're like, Oh, he's actually doesn't have any money. So he's doing all this stuff to exploit tigers and then he's like, Well, you know, he's actually doing it for you know, for conservation and then it's like no, he's just being a spiteful human being that's terrible and so it's it's there's there's not just a person that you're like that person Well, there there's like one or two people that in it like throughout they're like oh, a sane person for once and then something else outrageous happens. And so I think we've watched all seven episodes in like two days. Basically, they're like an hour long, maybe maybe four or five minutes long. And so just I would just recommend just sitting down and just watching the first episode just to say that you saw it and just get the taste in your mouth of what is happening. That was I know that that was the kind of the real like thing it's been there's only been a few things that I've actually ever watched to be like I can't wait for the other episode come out or I'm ready for you know the the new episode, but this was definitely one of them that are like, we can't go to bed yet. We have to why do we have to watch this? This reminds me of a show that I watch. Hold on. I'm pulling my phone. I can't remember what channel This was on. I want to say it was One of those is either a very bizarre History Channel show from a few years ago. It was called, like five years ago now Oh, good grief. It was like that where every time you watch it, you're like, No. Was that hunting Hitler show? No. It was called Appalachian outlaws. Ah, and it was about people that hunt for and collect and sell Jin Singh. And it is the craziest thing. Like, there's some like stinking like organized craziness happening with these people, man. It's nuts. Yeah, a big market. Yeah. And they're like, all like, got their secret crops in the woods and then they're all out somewhere else, and then they're doing something. It's all just like shady and like weird and there's like double crossing and they're like we used to hunt together but now we're not here like, now they're like shooting each other. You know what the heck is going on? It was the weirdest show. Susan. I was watch it like, like it was kind of like that same thing. Like No, we have to watch this. Like, I can't believe that this is real. Like, I cannot believe that this is a real thing. It was so weird. It was like random dudes, like live out in the hills and all this just crazy stuff. And I don't even know, man. It was nuts. I feel like part of it was in Arkansas, but that could have been. I think because this guy in this picture looks a little bit familiar. Like one of the dudes that was in Arkansas, whatever. Oh, my goodness, you're about to tell me that. Cuz you know him?

 

10:01

No, no, no

 

Aaron  10:06

I haven't seen in a long time, but I can't I might be getting parts of it confused with another weird show like that maybe but like, it was

 

10:15

so weird

 

Aaron  10:17

that that's kind of like this, this other show that I kind of got hooked into it's called Ozarks or the Ozarks. It's about this guy in his family laundering money or the like some Mexican drug cartel, but they the place they take it, it takes place in like Lake of the Ozarks or like a by candidate. Like what is it called?

 

10:47

Crap by the

 

Aaron  10:47

the Osage beach area, like oh, yeah, there and it's like, Whoa, I know exactly where they're at. And even though it's all like fictionalized, but it's just like, you're just fat. You're captivated by it. Cuz you're like, I know that place. Yeah, I'm from the Ozarks. And so that's been another show that the season three just dropped like yesterday and so again it's a net Netflix original and it's Yeah, it's got some good reviews. Yeah, so that's another that's another really good show. It's Yeah,

 

Collin  11:18

I

 

Aaron  11:21

mean that that's mostly been been my time or our time just now doing work and then on for a walk or something out in the wilderness, biting off Okies and then coming home and watching some sort of Netflix show.

 

11:38

Nice. Yeah. Nice. Yeah.

 

Aaron  11:42

I finally started watching that. Digging I forgot the name now. You start watching The Witcher yet? No, I don't have Netflix, man. I got amazon prime. That's it. And YouTube, which is where I watched all the weird medieval archery stuff. I will. I will, I must share something. I'll share something. I say that out loud. They don't like that. Oh, I started watching that Carnival row. So finally, I have time. It's on Amazon. It's this really bizarre like, kind of fictionalized Victorian England. But like it's a, it's sort of plays off of that if that vibe, right? But it's like a

 

12:27

this weird thing where there's

 

Aaron  12:31

like different magical races come and live in the city. It's called like the Burg or something. And like Orlando Bloom as like a cop. And then he used to be a soldier in the army and he fell in love with this fairy Loomer. And but, you know, it's forbidden because they live in a super racist town that's like, no, they're just, you know, dirty, rotten magic Pixies or whatever. It's kind of good, right? It's pretty good. So far, I've only watched like forums sounds quite interesting. Yeah, it's pretty interesting. Bad Boy, what is it called? It's called Carnival row. And it came out like last year and I've been like, for those ones like, Oh, I should watch that. And I hadn't had time before. But you know, now I'm not seeing clearly Yeah. I think I'm on. I think I'm ready for I think I'm on episode four. I watched episode four. Okay. How many episodes are there a lot this year, all of them. Things like eight or something? Not a lot because I have a tendency to start watching a show. And then not realizing how many episodes there are. Because I'm like, sometimes there's some like really good, like anime shows out there. That's like, oh, there's 60 episodes in a season. You're just like, huh? This one has 801 season and it's 800 So I can't I have a problem. I tried to watch some anime before. And, like, finding a starting place is just about the most impossible thing ever. Because some of them literally have like 2000 episodes like I, I don't I can't No, I can't do that, though that was my problem with trying to like rewatch like Dragonball Z and stuff like that. Like oh man, I'm watching this for my youth and it's like, five episodes go by and like the same thing happens and you realize like, oh, there's more episodes, there's a billion. There's literally 1 billion episodes. But then they came out with the thing called dragon eye, which is the shortened version of the original Dragon Ball Z series like they cut out a lot of the extra episodes because and I did not know this whenever they are drawing the original anime The guy that was making the original graphic novels of Dragonball Z was writing them at the like the exact same time. Really and so and so they he was really slow and so the anime the anime animators would have to destroy it all Jesus would have to write like filler episodes, just so they can kind of stay on par with him. And so if you want like the original Dragonball Z by where there's a Spirit Bomb for like, four episodes,

 

Collin  15:34

so there is that and then there's also like

 

Aaron  15:39

there there are also other random things where they're like, oh, Master Roshi yeah shows like Gohan going to school and you're like, wait, why is

 

Collin  15:52

this here? When did this turn into a slice of life anime whatever. Yeah.

 

Aaron  15:55

So it is because so they can keep up with or stay on par with the The original animator, it's interesting, but that doesn't make sense because there are a lot of like, really random episodes are like, like, you know, Goku and Piccolo or fighting cell and you're like one of those just about Master Roshi Like what? But what about the, you know, the death and the planet and the thing? We were really focused on that for a little bit, weren't we? Yeah,

 

16:24

no, now you got Master Roshi and Bulma just hanging out.

 

Aaron  16:27

Yeah, well, yeah, I have a tendency to get caught up on some of those. Those shows were like, oh, man, this is interesting. And there's 30 episodes and async in a season. And so I gotta get in put time and invested into it. Like, ah, I just can't do I've tried before. I've tried watching like Sword Art. Online. Oh, yeah. And I got to like the first half good, really good. And then like, there's another one I watched it and I can't remember I was like, it's called like de AR AR AR. It's really good too. But like there Yeah, there's a lot. There's just a lot. It's like I can't I don't always have time to watch. And sometimes I want to watch, you know, TV or stuff on YouTube and like, just chill out on the couch. And this sounds like super lazy. I'm like, bad but like I don't want to read the dub all the time. So I'm like tired. Africa have

 

Collin  17:21

yet read all the subtitles. I'm like, watching my eyes closed like fall asleep at time. So like, I have no idea what's going on. Yeah, but it really changes it like really hardcore changes it I was what was that? I was watching a house Moving Castle the other day. Yeah. I was like, why is Billy Crystal voicing? No, I just can't do this right now. All right. Cuz he plays. He plays Kelly's the

 

17:46

fire. Yeah, he does.

 

Aaron  17:48

He does and it just really takes me out of that. Fine. It's still good though. Oh, it's so good. Oh my goodness. This is like Christian Bale plan that too. Yeah. If you please Hell, yeah, he does.

 

Collin  18:04

Yeah, right.

 

Aaron  18:06

There's lots of like, in those movies in those Ghibli movies there's a lot of like random really famous American people do the dubs LIKE BUTTON way Where did that come from? Well yeah cuz they when they turned to Disney to be their distributor over here and that's a pretty big name and they're able to get a lot of the some big actors for that get like a really weird people and I can I want to say that hold on.

 

18:35

Seriously googling?

 

Aaron  18:38

Oh, I love this part of our shows. The furiously googling part where I've tried to remember who the American voice actor of poco Rosso is, and I want to say it's somebody I don't want to get it wrong. I definitely don't want to be offending them. Yeah.

 

19:01

This is just the

 

Brandon  19:03

IMDb Japanese cast, which is fine. But yeah, I want to say that he that's a good movie if you haven't seen Porco Rosso, by the way, that's one of those random Ghibli movies that people haven't watched. And it's really good. Like that was I went through a phase A few years ago where I just watched them all. I just found them in mysterious places on the internet and watched a whole but not all of them. I missed a couple. I like a lot. I watched a lot of the major ones and a lot of the other ones there's still a couple that I haven't seen I think because I again I got sidetracked was like,

 

19:48

Oh, do it later.

 

Brandon  19:52

Japanese. Oh, well, other there. But yeah, there's just like surprising people. Yeah, YouTube will sometimes have those random movies. Yeah, they're up for a couple weeks. Yeah. Like, Oh, thanks. I appreciate you. I think that's why watch some of them. I mean, what? No. Well, they I know they hadn't really met. I know they had Millennium actress up there for a little while. Yeah. Oh, it was I was right. He's Michael Keaton. Hey, Michael Keaton is totally the pig. Goodness. Yeah. It was right. Haha. Yeah, every once in a while they have him on there or something. But you got to watch them fast because they get taken down.

 

Aaron  20:42

Well, again, there may be some ways to get around that true. Copyright infringement. Fine.

 

Collin  20:50

Anyway, oh,

 

Aaron  20:55

God would have you. What do you been doing this last week?

 

Collin  20:58

when I'm writing down Moving Castle prints one Okay, you know watch.

 

Aaron  21:05

That's the best one. My favorite is spirit. I really like Spirited Away as well, but I think Prince is modern. Okay, so my favorite just because it was like, I think is the first one I ever saw. Yeah, there's a very, there's an extraordinarily strong nostalgia factor. But that movie does. I don't know why. I saw that one first. I have absolutely no idea why that was it. I can tell you. Can you it was it was like I don't I don't I don't know. I know where I saw it. I saw it on a random channel. When we had satellite TV, yeah, it was just it was just playing on once. It was just on it was one of those it was just on the first that we watched it the same time then because that's or there abouts? Yeah, I think I think we were scanning just you know, clicking and we just stumbled build upon it, the game stopped and watched it. And we're like, What on earth is this? Because even even after watching it like you just, if you have to watch it several times, like there's really not a whole lot of context and whatnot. Why? or anything like that. It's amazing. And you really just get like, Yeah, and I agree, I think 100% The reason why it's my favorite is because I was one of those rare movies where I genuinely just stumbled across it. And it has just stuck with me and it was a gateway into literally everything else. Yeah. So, yeah, that's a fair assessment because I think it was mine is definitely my first one that I watched my first Ghibli movie. And so I think it's probably the same thing as problems on TV I think we probably watched it together because I seem to recall that was the case well like cycle what is what's going on? I can't remember if because I definitely remember saying that but I think house Moving Castle because I don't think I ever watched or it took me a long time to actually watch principal on an okay like all the way through and or from because I always seem to watch it or find it when it was like just right after the beginning and so I was kind of missing some I'm like the very first things but I definitely remember washing things like a house Moving Castle or like steam boy like all the way through and those kind of definitely being my first real ones like oh, I actually know what's going on this time. Because me it took me a while to finally get now understand Princess Mononoke Okay. All the way through, but I that was definitely one of the first ones that really opened me up to that. Yeah. art style or exam to it? Well, yeah, I think I just remember mine okay. And I don't remember what my next one was. I watched some at my friend's house. Nice school maybe. I hadn't watched like spirited away until relatively recently. It was a few years ago. I watched that one. It was like, Oh, no, this is good.

 

24:37

Kiki's Delivery Service

 

Aaron  24:38

now I think that's the one I think I might be the one that I didn't watch when I was going through my Big your binge watch all the movies I could find. I think I'd missed Kiki's Delivery Service that was that was another one that I think that went on was like the Disney Channel like every once in a while. Maybe cuz Collins right. They were distributed by Disney in the US. little while.

 

Collin  25:02

Yep. And so that

 

Aaron  25:07

is I think that's where I saw Totoro for the first time it was just sort of like on TV somewhere. Once I saw like half of it. I was like, What the heck? And I watched the whole thing like years later. It's like, oh, okay, this makes sense. Now. This is much better when you watch the beginning. Yeah, cuz every time I watch Princess Mononoke a, it was like, why is he writing a giant elk? I am just and he just does just like it just fine. Just cool. actually gets to the aesthetic that we were kind of talking about for some of the reasons that we really liked. Star Wars was because things are created in such a way that just looking at them, you know that there's a reason that things are going on. You don't know it. I don't know why but yeah. In purposeful. Yeah. It's very, very purposeful and Yeah, I mean, that just really strikes home. Or for that same thing of the way Miyazaki does all of his films of everything is very purposeful. Yeah, very, very, very interesting. And also the I think one of the things that makes it tease me. We, like, refreshing is just like the storytelling arc of Japanese media in general. is different. Right? The whole they don't do the, like, rising action, like inciting incident rising action, like a very Western plot diagram that we all learned in school, right? The big thing, right? That's not really a thing. I mean, it is Now they've incorporated some elements of that, but they do. They have a different structure. I'm gonna butcher this because I'm doing this from memory, but I think it's called kitten Shogun tetsu or something like that. I don't remember. It's like a four part thing. Ah, and it's different. It's differently paced. It's differently set up. It's, it's, it goes about telling stories in a different way.

 

27:32

So

 

Aaron  27:36

that's, that's one of the parts that you watch it you're like, Oh, right. It's just it's just I mean, so. So there is the the aspect of visually and then that storytelling, as you mentioned, it's just different enough where you sit there and at least from Western culture is going Oh, oh, like just you don't get that. That Big resolve all the time. Yeah, no, there's not always a resolution don't. There's it's not based on problem resolution. Mm hmm. Yeah, I was close key show 10 ketsu. Sorry for my Japanese pronunciation. How do you how do we spell that? k i SH Oh, not ready. Oh, hey, I sh O, TN. tn KETSUTO has like a line over it if you want a long vowel sound, Kesha hidden.

 

28:39

See, but it's a it's like a different.

 

Aaron  28:44

Like, it's basically intro development, twist conclusion. That's the shorthand. That's what those stands for. Key show 10 gets you. I did look this up again. I didn't do all that for me. But that's what it is. Instead of the word Like, thing that that for part a bizarre, and you don't always get, like the conclusion doesn't necessarily mean the same thing as Western storytelling with, like, a conclusion, right? It's not like a wrap up. It's just like, Oh no, this is how it ends. And that's why sometimes you like yeah, I guess I kind of make sense because I've been watching a film on Netflix. I just looked it up and it's totally Korean. So that kind of puts my point mute. But it might have the same element but yeah, so it's called the kingdom. And it's about wait for it. Like ancient or feudal like Japan, was zombies. Right and so but it's, it's, it's placed in that kind of that kind of manner where it's not all just kind of like the Here's the interesting, here's the easy thing. And then it's just like, oh, here's this and so, yeah. Basically, there's not necessarily a conflict. Right? Like Western Western storytelling relies heavily on conflict, and in resolution, right, yeah, there's some sort of problem that has to be solved. And then something happens and then it solves it. Right? In this model. It's just kind of like it's over. And so it's, it's not always like, you don't always get that same hard wrap up that you get in, you know, like a classic thing. This website actually has the example of Kiki's Delivery Service laid out in a format. I'll send this to you here in a little bit. Once I can make this leap, but pretty excited so you can look at it but it's kind of interesting. I watched a video on it. Once It's kind of stuck in my brain that it's just a different storytelling format. Right? And you know, also a lot of a lot of stuff in In other media like that is it's a lot of it is like very implied right so they don't just come out and tell you like directly Hey, this is what's going on. So if you are used to watching, like mainstream Western media, which they do the whole time, like, Ray This is exactly what's happening. I'm gonna tell you exactly what's happened like

 

31:37

my foreshadowing is so heavy handed

 

31:39

I can't you like

 

Collin  31:42

can you give me

 

Aaron  31:44

at least pretend that I'm modeling intelligence? Figure out what you're talking about? No, why would you want that? I mean, I want that. It doesn't make it interesting to watch. That's why I don't know you're like

 

Collin  31:57

me

 

Aaron  32:00

No, I it is it is nice and that's without being spoon fed. Everything not made out doesn't make it. Not all the Western media does that obviously, you

 

Collin  32:09

know,

 

Aaron  32:10

while a lot of like the big like your summer movies are like, Okay. Sure there is not much nuance to a Transformers movie. No, zero or right. Back at six, right? It's not really a chain. It really likes those movies and she watched them like a button from the TV. And I'll sit down and we'll watch them when we're eating. You know, it'd be like, seven. And if some of you really just bizarre plot happening and I'll just like, remember what these movies are about racing cars over that. That was cool. I like how they roll anymore. Yeah, it's like some really obscure like a heist movie like what? Why are you elaborate? Why would you get a mechanic to rob a man? I don't know what we're not gonna we're not gonna think about that

 

Collin  33:10

doesn't make sense. We are, we're we're doing well.

 

Aaron  33:26

Everything is not everything's closed. I mean, you can still when you look at the list when they say you need to shelter in place or it's important things only I look at those lists and I get really sad because I don't go anywhere other than those places, I guess. Lead very exciting lives. Because they were they were giving the list of like all the exceptions, and like, there's so many play Who has time to go to any other place. Oh, but like millions. Preschool has been shut down. has been closed, which has been sad. But the teacher has been sending videos for us to watch. And she did like 40 minutes and watch them on YouTube. And it's the teacher doing the activities and doing the routine that they used to do the classroom. Yes. And Lillian and Noah absolutely love this. So that isn't a huge is a really big for them. But, you know, it's like, we also used to make fun trips to the grocery store or, you know, little little things of that nature around town and we just can't do this anymore. And so the kids like kids have not been out of house in like a week and a half like to go to a different building. Like we give out walks like we went and rode bikes around our neighborhood today and those kind of things, but as far as Yeah, but you can't go to an destination. Not really well. I was the same way like I don't really go anywhere anyway, so Like a mon ad here's basically the city council and stuff have been like nope. Most things are closed now. So like I got a text message updates from the place that kept my hair. They're like don't bury them keep basically it's restaurants that are takeout and the grocery store. And I don't know about some of the businesses I don't know how they're functioning because there's a lot of industry here. And so I don't really know but they did this week. They extended our school cancellation break till April 24. Yeah, I was seeing I have I'm, I've been seeing that that's

 

Collin  35:43

school by school district have been slowly expanding

 

Aaron  35:46

it And again, that's not coming from the state. That was basically the way I understand it. Like the five counties in this area, all the superintendent's day Non conference meetings

 

Collin  36:02

and just

 

Brandon  36:04

kind of talk to the county health department, their counties and each other, and we're like, nope, this is what we're gonna do. So it was this was like the schools just deciding to do that. It didn't come from deci. It didn't come from deci is the Department of Elementary and Secondary Education in Missouri, by the way, ah, it didn't come from them. It didn't come from the governor, who has literally been useless. It's come from just all the superintendents game school together and being like, oh, we're gonna do this, because we think this is the best thing to keep everybody safe. So there's, you know, I know there are pros and cons to that approach. I mean, I tend to really like the idea of of empowering as much local authorities to make decisions, but then I mean, obviously, there needs to be some overarching guiding principle rate. Yes. That's the thing. Isn't that then there needs to be some backfill some some supplies some, you know, yeah, I understand things I understand the conservative ethos of we're gonna put it in the hands of the private citizen. Like, that's why it'd be that much. But this is kind of like a disaster situation. So like, could you like do something to help? That'd be great. Yeah, yeah. And that's where I see in this point, there's a definitely need for

 

Collin  37:28

both to be working hand in hand and that has

 

37:30

not really been done. So no, not

 

Aaron  37:32

in that not in the state of Missouri. Other states. Your mileage may vary. In Missouri. It has been the local only. I've really been leading the way. Yeah, there's Yeah. Yeah, so the department remains open. It was kind of I felt is kind of crummy late Friday. Last week. The Senate In an email saying, all buildings, all department buildings and offices are closed to the public, lock the front doors, put a sign out front, if they need help, we'll go from there. Because on Monday, Governor said, all buildings, all government buildings that don't have public restricted access, close immediately.

 

Collin  38:26

And I was like,

 

Aaron  38:29

Did you guys

 

Collin  38:30

know that that was coming out and decide to make this policy so that we would not be forced to shut down because if you did, that's really dirty. And I don't want that at all. You leave. Like

 

38:45

I said, you that mean that I said, Aaron, right.

 

Aaron  38:51

I remember when you sent me, the one, the one it was like if you if your company forces you to go to work and you get sick, you need to walk up. to your boss and hug them and just whisper in their ear, the Lannisters in their regards. Oh, yeah. Well, Collins never seen Game of Thrones. He doesn't know. That's cool. So, I mean, a good chunk of but but, but even so a good chunk of my work week has been

 

39:18

dedicated to

 

Collin  39:20

coming up with policy, not policies, but like procedures and work and technical training technical solutions to working from home in the instance that were told to work from home. So I really haven't been doing a whole lot of like work work. It's been well, what if they come in today and say, nobody come in? Go work from home? We, because we didn't have a work from home policy. I was. I was showing basically my entire office how to use shared folders on OneDrive. Oh, no. Because Yeah, oh no. Yeah. Yeah. Well, how about This file is on our server, but it's too big to send. And we won't have access to the server when we're at home or we will but it will be too slow. And I was like, you just right click it and hit share, like

 

Aaron  40:15

the mythical right click. I know I did break some brains with that of like, look at all these other things there. And I don't know, sub menu. No. Oh, you clicked again? Why would you do that? They wanted me to see it. They would have showed it in the first one. Yeah. All right.

 

Collin  40:37

Well, I mean,

 

40:40

so

 

Aaron  40:43

but I you know, one of one of the things I was telling, Megan I have talked about is just how I'm really thankful that we live in a relatively rural area, not very population dense because transmission rates are super low in these areas. And But on the other hand, you're just sitting as a county watching there's all these little dots pop up all around you. Yeah, watching the walls, and it's making it like is that like, like la has been on lockdown for now going on three weeks? Yeah. That's that's the problem with the delayed over arching government response right you get these places these hot zone locations where they've been in lockdown for who knows how long and then like it just sort of waiting and if it gets bad enough then the other like government agencies like okay no shut down now for real, but we we did so like, holy cow. That's right. Well it just you know how long you're sitting under that it's just there's the anxiety but just mode of thinking of like

 

41:57

the anxiety inducing

 

Collin  41:59

can be it can be but just is it definitely is I don't even know exactly what it is knowing that at all this is going on on the coast and like slowly working its way in towards you. And that everybody look at getting on Twitter or look on on Instagram or all these pieces in every feels like quote unquote, everybody has been on intensive lockdown. And it's, and I'm looking around us going, we really, really haven't changed anything that we've done. I mean other than just, you know, some some shopping here and there, blah blah. So just kind of this this oppressive cloud that's just there that you know is going on, but you don't really see you don't really interact with you just hear about and that

 

Aaron  42:49

that's uncomfortable. Yeah.

 

Collin  42:57

So anyway, that's a Yes, it's been a

 

Aaron  43:04

day into work. Sit down, figure out how we're going to solve some things to work from home and continue to collaborate. All while watching the ticker get news updates sent to your phone about we're number one USA now in the world. We don't want to be number one in this one. Can we dominate it? No, maybe not. Number one now I'll go. I would you know, come on. That'd be ridiculous.

 

Collin  43:37

Thanks, Ben.

 

Aaron  43:38

In Fine, fine, I'm happy. The weather's pretty nice. I've been able to do stuff out in the yard.

 

43:46

Oh, true.

 

Collin  43:48

And I'm not doing that but

 

Aaron  43:51

I cleaned out gutters today. We have like a crazy freak hailstorm this afternoon. She's like oh, and now picture them. What we're supposed to get we have some tornado threats or whatever later like late tonight, so we'll see what what comes with that. Yeah, we just had the thunderstorm thing this afternoon. Like, oh, by the way rain hail. Thank you. Oh, okay yeah, we Yeah, there's no more without checking the weather here. It's all week. We just had that. So we'll see risk risky appeal. Yep. Other than that, but Oh, we got going on. Oh, worse. Yeah. There we go. Yeah. Dang. So yeah, I think I'm the only one just staying inside all day long. Well, as I as I like, I'm ready, like I want to be at home. We get it I'd I just read like to be

 

45:06

in office, I

 

Collin  45:06

would not be an office, not around, you know, sick people or whatever, you know, those, I'd rather just wake up and come into bed, you know, come up, roll over and go to my desk and work and especially because they were like, well, we expect you to still this mean, again this this is a is a storied and historic department. And they did not have any sort of telecommuting or working from home policies until we have this story. So C stores, that means we're gonna operate the same way we did when we were founded. Yes. And they did. And there hasn't been a problem with that until now. Writers and carbon copy paper. Oh, man, if we could get back to typewriters. I'd be all in We know you're excited to bring mine from home and in typed this up in triplicate What's up? Yeah, what? I'm What? You want it on this? I have no idea where that was. You had that?

 

Aaron  46:12

let's just dive right back aboard. No more.

 

Collin  46:17

Oh, no, just the you know the department working on these policies and

 

Aaron  46:25

oh, where it was as they said, well

 

Collin  46:28

if you choose to work from home now, you have to clear that with your supervisor and you have to work eight hours every single day.

 

Aaron  46:37

However every day,

 

Collin  46:39

yes, you have to like you have to log that time. Oh, yeah, like it have like things to submit even though it's like, we're all salaried. We literally doesn't matter. It does not matter, but they were they like you still have to log your time. Again, simply It that in all these things. I'm like, What? And because Mikey boy hasn't said anything, this is what you get. Right, right. And then they have no state level response to it well, then they said, if your office closes, because somebody's sick, then you can work from home. But you don't have to log in eight hours, but we still expect you to work some. So I approached my supervisor and I was like, so that means like, What? How many hours that talk? Is that an hour a day? Is that an eight hour day? And she was like, Well, I mean, she was I'd appreciate it if you guys would work three to five. And then use the rest is what they call administrative leave, which is we'll kind of leave that they give you if you're closed down for like a storm or snow or those kind of things, and you still get paid for it. So it's different than like you your vacation leave or your sick leave. It's like the department's giving you leave to us. Very weird.

 

Aaron  48:08

But if the if the governor comes in and closes everything down, then we aren't required to work from home and we can just use all administratively. It's very confusing, Mikey. Thanks for helping us, right. No, I don't I you know, I think for the past three weeks, you come I've come home and been like, this is the week they're gonna shut it down. No, nope. That's not the case. Um, I think the only only so so that's the that's the other thing. It was like. My work is not essential to any function of anything remotely important. And yet, I'm going into work every day. And I'm hearing all these stories of people Who are have been telecommuting for two weeks? Three weeks? I'm going by the time it gets bad enough here in Missouri they those people will have long been since moved on from that and then I'll be sitting there going trying to make fun of you know trying to jump on the working from home bandwagon and all that long. I mean West Coast have been doing it for almost a month right? Yeah. Yeah. big cities whether they really in they have and so just it's been again very interesting living at the same being a contemporary of the time not feeling any of the repercussions really of that yet as well yet yet. Yes, that's the thing is the yet the time delayed and, and how they're choosing to manage that of closing portions of the country down and then there's a new policy that's going to be released soon where everyone county is going across the state across the country is going to be ranked on a low medium or high risk scale. And the high count high risk counties are the ones are going to be shut down. But the low risk counties are still gonna be left open and so on so forth. So there's Oh, yes, I heard about this. Because, yeah, I'm pretty upset about this in general. Right. Like, I feel that this response is not very helpful. Right? I understand that, like, you know, yo, we gotta this all this nonsense about we're going to get the economy moving, but like, Guys, first of all, do you know that the economy is an entirely made up thing? Like it's not real, right. You know that right? Like, it's whatever you say it is. So that's why the stock market's so bizarre, is because it's all pretend all of it. The day, the day Yeah, there was yesterday where 3.2 million people applied had applied for unemployment. The stock market was up 7% it's third day of it. It's all pretend it's all based on future predictions, right? Yeah. And I owe this. Like, it's all it is completely made up. I don't know if anybody else knows this. It's all pretend it is all 100% is construct of people's minds. It's not like a real thing. So, like, yes, it's it means X and Y whenever these happen, but like, it'll be okay. Like, people don't, I've never felt like I always knew that, like the government didn't really care about me as an individual. Right? But it's weird to hear them like admitted on television. Right? Like, well, we just need to you know, our number one priority is getting people back out to work. Doesn't really matter. Other health, you need to get out. That is the most, like, late Victorian London thing I've ever heard in my entire life. Right, like, outside of reading Charles Dickens novel. I've never heard that phrase uttered before somewhere. Well, what do you what the heck, man. It's like, Listen, I understand you love capitalism. And you like you. You've obviously never read anything about how it actually works. That's fine, I guess. Because you just, you know, read it once in an economy economy textbook. And that was it. You know, you've never read any Adam Smith. I've never had any other economic papers or anything. Like we just need people to work. We just need bodies to work. But to what end? Like there's not no reason for that. Right?

 

Collin  52:50

Well, people people both sides of the aisle are saying that you know, even even No, no, I'm not saying Come on double in de Blasio

 

52:58

has a heart This is not directed at

 

Aaron  53:00

This is not directed at you. I'm not gonna say Marty. No, I'm just not saying that you are ready. Yeah. Yeah. Right. This is the guy people certain party. This is the entire entity that is the United States government. Right? The whole thing, though, right? Right. Doesn't matter what red blue could care less. Whatever little dumb letter you have after your name irrelevant. You've got to stop being so ridiculous, right? The bottom dollar is not the most important thing in this situation. In my opinion, right? It's not because if you don't have anybody well enough to do anything, right? They're not gonna be nobody can go to work. Nobody can make you any more money. Sorry. I know. That's what you really are confused about, like, oh my gosh. My wealth hoarding. However, shall I continue? Oh, they won't. They won't know what to do with themselves. That's all day all day. That's all anybody in power knows how to do is I would have read Adam Smith, you would have said, like, oh, wealth hoarding is bad. He said that your beloved father of capitalism said that. Okay, let's see, he just didn't know he didn't do it the right way. It's never actually been trained correctly. I don't know if you know this or not. We're doing it. We're gonna do it the right way. Are we? Right? Or we're gonna show the right way to do that. So just watch, watch and learn. No, no, no.

 

Collin  54:41

Oh, yeah. Yeah, well, I think Yeah.

 

Aaron  54:46

That even makes me even more depressed. Like, like, it's a two story. It's a twin strike, because it's a public health crisis. And then and then an economic crisis for no fault of any business owners. Right? That's the part that's really frustrating of, of if, if there had been a better coordinated effort, or whatever, like like that, I think that's probably one reason why those jobless claims were just kind of swept under the rug because they're like, Oh, those aren't real because the government shut everybody down. So obviously people apply for employment. Did they know they know the cause? For a lot of that, right? Yeah, it's just, it's, we were watching so you know, Megan, I pet sitting business and we win. The people who within the matter of a week and a half, just crumbled, and shut their doors and we're like, well, we don't have anything else like one guy. He owns a larger company for pet sitters. In one week alone, he lost over $40,000 Have bookings, because everything was shut down. And, and he was like, Well, I don't know what we're gonna do now. Yeah. And he has a thriving business. And we the week before, and this is the problem with a non centralized like national response, right? I get I get it, you want to put some sort of name to it that you don't like, you know, oh, that's x thing that I'm against that name. Okay. It's the beautiful thing about government. If you do a thing, you don't have to keep doing that thing. Right? You can later go, Okay, we're gonna do this thing for three months. After three months, we will stop doing that thing. Done. It's not it's not a permanent thing. You don't have to make permanent solutions, right? Well, I think that's what people kind of don't get, right? Like, you can put expiration dates on things. And then, at the end of that time, reevaluate, and then try again. That's a legitimate approach it you can try. I think the fun here, though, is the history does not really show that once people are have power or have position, it's not easy. I mean, think of the policies that are still in place after September 11. Right, like the the huge loss of First there was no end date written into that law. Like the Yeah, I don't talk about the one where the What's it called? I can't remember. Freedom of data Freedom, freedom, freedom, freedom information. Yes, it was the Freedom of Information Act. I had to know in the date written into the law. Right. It just said Like a date, we now can do whatever we want. What, huh? But by saying, we now can do what we want until x date, right? that forces you to reevaluate later, right? Because it elapses to say, on this date, it stops, then. Right, right. And so you're forced to reevaluate a situation and do something like that. I know, all this is it sounds like awful and like a super, whatever name you want to put to it. Like that. It's affecting that, in my opinion, affects businesses more when you just say, well figure it out. And then and then don't tell them like, Hey, you know, close, close down for x days. Right? Right. Because If you were saying closed, right, you can, people can figure out how to help employees, stuff like that. Passing measures to get this right. ridiculous amount of money that I'm going to get now. From the government, here's your thousand bucks, buddy. Hey, he just I mean, just get ready for next year's. We go file taxes.

 

Collin  59:22

Get rid of that. Oh, it's Oh, how much of it? I know exactly how much you gave me. Oh, no. Well, yeah,

 

Aaron  59:30

there's that. There's that meme where it says like, well, we gotta we gotta shut you down for three or four. I think it was like, days, weeks, months, and he goes could be five. You're like, wait a minute. You didn't answer my question. Yeah, here's $1,000. Louis. That's so I mean, listen, I appreciate that you are attempting to do something.

 

Collin  59:53

Don't get me wrong. Right. That's good.

 

Aaron  59:57

The county is in the problem. It is because the government did something. So obviously, they need to rectify the problem that they pushed it. Yeah. I just a lot of a lot of things that go into that as to what, you know, what's the right thing to do with rock and do the right thing is that nobody knows. Well, no, nobody does unprecedent situation, but like, just sort of going, Oh, it's probably gonna be fine is not not really an answer. That'd be great. You know? So, it's just the, especially when you see how how many people in other countries are like suffering because of this, and then just being like, yep. That's things happening. Anyway, like, but, um, hold on a minute. It gives a whole new meaning to the Whistling past the graveyard. I don't know.

 

60:56

Not not. It's very

 

Aaron  60:59

it's When you bring up whistling, it brings to mind Nero. Right? It's kind of the the immediate, the unfortunate, unfortunate parallel that can be drawn. Right? Just the indifference of well, Yep, sure is on fire. Anyway, do play my fiddle, right? Like, Mm hmm. And again, this is not directed at a singular person. And this is right, that mass all the all VMs Yeah, there's not this is not a single target shot at anybody, because nobody's really doing anything worthwhile. Unfortunately, not. And they can't even like stop time to play. Like they can't even stop playing their ridiculous little games. Long, long in the past, we feel like oh, well, what are we doing? Do some because somebody put this clause in there. Why is it never gonna write a bill with 87,000 extraneous clauses that are not useful to anybody? Right? Ever like a good crisis go to waste. First rule of politics is that whenever you are handed this you must cuz everybody knows that we're all rushed and everybody knows the other side wants to get this done quickly so you know what are they willing to just let sly

 

62:27

what's the what's the term? Is it pork barrel?

 

Aaron  62:29

Right most bear icon random junk?

 

Collin  62:32

Yes. Come on, dude like the one of the things that they wanted was 35 in the bill that was just passed or something that was removed was a line item for $35 million to go to some Performing Arts Center to JFK Performing Arts Center, that's what it was. That was in the bill that was removed from a bill that was like their first draft and you're like, why would I understand there? Without understand if you were to put it to like a university like a hospital? No, no, no, no, you know, that's I'm saying I would understand that would make more sense if you're going to like, research laboratories. Yes. In a huge, monumental dollar endowment to the nation's research laboratories. Absolutely. Yeah. But no, this was a perform. Not that again. I think people who have listened to enough of our episodes will understand our love and adoration and admiration of Performing Arts. Yes. To put it in, in a pandemic, Bill is not the

 

63:35

desired place for that.

 

Aaron  63:38

The private debate, get your name on a building, that's fine, whatever. I don't know why. But anyway, that's what it is. Yeah. And just in both, you know, everybody was trying to do that kind of thing because they just literally an endemic, systematic every. That's the word I'm looking for systemic problem. Everybody saw the potential price tag. As it got larger they went, Oh, well, what's another couple million dollars to throw in there? What's another couple of billion or to gain your games? Like it's not game time? Yeah, it's not a time to play. Okay. This is why this is this. Stop it.

 

64:18

Stop it. Yeah.

 

Collin  64:21

Well, I think, I

 

Aaron  64:25

think I think that's why we're gonna name this episode. The phrase dirty rotten Pixies that came up earlier. Excellent. Perfectly summarizes. I like it. Everything kind of well. Good. Carnival Row, row. Well, I mean, as I'm saying is good. I've only watched four episodes. So it could it could take a bad turn. I'll let you know. Next time. Okay. That's our homework. Brandon will update us on Carnival row, as well as you get some book reviews because I have been reading some books now. So you get some book reviews. For this, I mean, one of them. You know, I'm excited about But it is a very academic text and you'll be like, wow, why are you reading that? But fine. The other one? Yes, I will have things to say about the other one. So hey, Brandon, Book Review corner. Yes. Yes. Row corner. Perfect. I'll try to remember to once more kind of row because I keep being like, I got sucked into the archery thing. And I couldn't. I couldn't. I can't get out. I got been trying to schedule out. Because I've been sitting at home for two weeks now. I feel like

 

65:47

yeah, two weeks.

 

Aaron  65:49

Like if you just sort of sit down in the morning whenever you get up and just have this bevy of options that is look at random media. Do some schoolwork whenever I've had to sort of like, Okay, I'm going to watch YouTube for this amount of time. And then I'm going to do, I'm going to read one of these books for this amount of time. I'm going to schedule a little while. Because like, I always you get this sort of like, like, I don't really know what to do right. Now that schedule is so important. Yeah. Because there's nothing you just like, um, so then in the afternoon, I'd like sit down and like after lunch, usually I'll get on my iPad from school and like, do some stuff for the kids, right? And all that. answering emails, I've gotten stuff like that, like, just sort of like kind of blocking out. very vague, blocking out of time, where I can kind of figure out what was going on. It's important though,

 

66:55

because otherwise you sort of sit and you're like, um, I don't really know what Do me now. It's been weird. Yeah, but we'll get an update on

 

Aaron  67:08

that as we go. So many updates. Yes. Good. Well,

 

Collin  67:18

every other week I plan

 

Aaron  67:22

to go and talk to Jensen. Good.

 

Collin  67:29

Love you guys