Coffee Sock

Aaron is adventurous. Brandon has new coffee technology to share. Collin drops some science. Then down the rabbit hole of the global caviar market.

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Collin  

Welcome to Oh, brother, a podcast of three brothers trying to figure it all out with your host, Brandon, Collin and

 

 

Aaron on this week's show, puffy socks.

 

 

New Hello. Sup

 

 

What is up

 

 

coffee grounds in my coffee?

 

 

Oh no.

 

 

So you did what their coffee grounds in my coffee. Oh no, he is has pressed incorrectly. I have have

 

 

the water was a little bit high so I had to kind of angle the filter as it was getting on before didn't just sploosh all over. And I think

 

 

some escapade.

 

 

Oh, sadness. Well,

 

 

on that note

 

 

we have procured some like reusable cloth coffee filters. Apparently. It is yes. We have we got some of those in a, like a thrive thing, right hashtag not sponsored. But they, yeah, they were like on sale or whatever. And so, Susan was like, well, we'll just check them out. It has the disturbing name of coffee sock.

 

 

Which

 

 

I don't know if I'm 100% behind that particular brand. I think we could have I think we could have done better than coffee socks. Can. Can we? I mean it mostly the problem with that name is I have watched far too much like survivor man and like Bear Grylls and stuff like that. So, so like, I've seen Bear Grylls literally like take mud or like elephant poop and put it in a sock, and like, wring it out and drink it. So you like um, yeah. Not. Not a wonderful name. But oh, just a reminder that it's exotic and fun. It's interesting. Right, wait goes with one of the bywords on there. Does this what kind of brings you back to the last week you talked about the ritual of the coffee, right? That's on the box, it says right? Because you have to like, rinse it out and bring it out and just like set it back on thing. And then every couple of weeks you're supposed to boil it. So that was my question is how you how you how do you wash it? So you're just supposed to it says boil it in the air for like 10 minutes. So I did that yesterday because it was due before you use it. Tour right?

 

 

So you do that once

 

 

you spoil it and then says you can boil it twice if it's like real, like oily with the ground oil, you can boil it then don't change the water in the toilet again. are useless the boiler. We got two of them, we can switch them out. So be interesting. I'm curious as to whether like because I use it this morning, and the coffee this morning tasted pretty good. I couldn't tell if that was because I made a particularly good pot of coffee this morning. Or if it was the filter Got

 

 

not enough data, right?

 

 

insufficient data. That's the word I was looking for.

 

 

To see if it's any good, but I'm curious as to whether I like it just continue because you're only supposed to brace it between so if it's like going to develop its own flavor, rain, like a cast iron skillet. Exactly. You know, I mean, yeah, because like, I use it today, you're all I did is I follow the directions. I just dumped out the grounds and the coffee into the trash can use me. And then I just rinsed it with cold water and then just set it to dry.

 

 

It's not much of a filter if you just dump it back into the coffee. Yeah,

 

Brandon  

no.

 

 

But again, like I said, I couldn't really tell I got up early this morning. So I couldn't I I just measured with a spoon. Right? And so some days it just gets more in there than other days. 10 days it's less. So I don't know if it was just a particularly if I got like extra in there or not, but it, pal. So tomorrow, the rest this week will be the test and see how it goes. I mentioned very exciting, Susan to try it and see what she thinks. Got some brand new coffee technologies going on here, right? Yeah.

 

 

So it'll be interesting.

 

 

You heard me through the door. He said, Don't diss it. I could hear you. We're not we're not dissing it, though. Yeah, I'm just saying she listened all the way. That opened the door so she could hear that.

 

 

Oh, man.

 

 

There we go. So yeah, that's going to be the that's the new

 

 

big highlight of my week. Really? I'm excited for you. new and interesting. reusable coffee filter. Yeah. I mean, it makes sense because we drink a lot of coffee as we discussed, and having the filter rang. Go through lots of those. Mm hmm. Oh, was he was he goes? No. Lisa, no. groundsman coffee this morning. Haha. No see I have

 

 

other than that exciting development. What else you guys? Oh, yeah. Aaron, will you give me a second meeting abroad where I'm out? Oh my gosh. Oh, oh. Oh my gosh, there we go. Aaron cooked a bratwurst. Okay, well Well, Aaron founder I don't cook, Shelby cookie. It wasn't the birds. The birds bring it to you. Oh, yes, we since we have our new the biggest feeding you yeah we have new a new nest full of birds now. No we, um last week we kind of were able to go out and from corn time and we actually had a Mediterranean all those Mediterranean style but the people were Lebanese restaurant down in, in Tulsa and you know try to know how to falafel. I feel like my first falafel that I ever had, but I was like, bomb. Yeah, and I had to I was sitting there and they had, like, you know from from last podcast, Turkish coffee on the menu. Oh, like did you get some compared did um, and and they're they're like well you didn't you know felt awkward because like it's two o'clock in the afternoon I don't exactly expect coffee to be the thing to order that's right It was nothing. All they did not they did not put sugar in it which is sugar is optional it is not optional. No It must have sugar. It came in this Uber super tiny, tiny like a lot smaller than I anticipated cup. Yeah, and I went to the traditional cup that you need to get find a good image for you. Because I took a picture it was like how cute it is for research obviously. Definitely. And we did that we kind of you know played around with Little bit in town. And then

 

 

I can't I thought I put something next to it actually, you know show the size of set coffee. Oh, no. It was basically like a, like a shot of coffee.

 

 

It's similar to an espresso size cup. Yes. That that is the the word that a lot of people on YouTube kind of described it as, you know espresso like small like about that size but just different like oh, okay, yeah and so they brought that out there you know, didn't exactly pair well with a falafel but but nothing that it was actually it was actually like really good. It was incredibly strong. What? Oh, yeah. But I was, you know, thrilled to actually try like legit, you know, they have something to shoot for. Right? Yeah. And I can't mimic it very well because like Yeah, yeah, like No, I want my coffee out. But they're like, no, it takes a little long time to make, like, literally forever, but it's fine. Coffee now. Fine. So it's very good. I enjoyed it. I was very thrilled and you know, giddy with excitement with trying it. So I was not disappointed. It was a lot different than I anticipated, but it was it was kind of good. I wish they put creamer in it or not creamer sugar. But again, it's optional, allegedly, though.

 

 

But it was it was actually it was actually pretty good. And then we

 

 

scoodle around town, and then got back late and then you know, it just down poured rain on us the entire time. So yeah, I saw that it was supposed to rain a lot down there. See? Yeah. And so it's been it's been often on this entire week. Weirdly. But other than that, it's been you know, it was it was really it's been I don't want to jinx anything but it's been a really chilled kind of week don't don't say that a lot

 

 

where's it knocking

 

 

knocking on wood? Yes, we did

 

 

yeah, that's kind of been the I want to know I want to know your your thoughts on the falafel I want to know what you thought about or what kind did you get? Um what are the options? Well, because the falafel was like the little breaded ball thing that's in there, you can get like other stuff on it too. So it was a good thing like they basically put it like in the giant burrito. I don't know if that's how it usually come? Yeah, it's either in like some kind of pita flatbread ish thing. Yeah. They like rolled in a giant like a giant flat burrito. And it was it had like the, the falafel themselves were like the veggie kind that were there. They're kind of looked like you meatballs. Yes, exactly. Yep. And they had like the other greens in there as well it was basically a falafel sandwich but again it up. So I was you know, super excited because I was like well you know, I know I don't really know I've never had them before and I don't know what I'm gonna do I'm gonna like this or whatever but I was I was extremely happy and the only downside is that it you know, the restaurants like an hour away from where where we live Yeah, but and so that's that's the you know, the downside of it. It's like the last the last place I had falafel was Sydney Harbor. So hey, you're doing better than me right that's what

 

 

I'm

 

 

trying to think what are you can also they also sometimes put the meat they can put meat in there too. Like Like, not in the ball thing but like just next to it like with it? Yeah, yeah, I didn't know if you got this a straight one or if you got the like one with like them other stuff. From there, it had the other stuff. It wasn't it wasn't me. It was like candles like I'm like a veggie. Okay, that's like the traditional one without because it's the falafel thing. And then they put like greens and stuff in there. Yeah. And so that's a good one. I like that one. It was really good. And then, shall we What did you have? At the Mediterranean restaurant? You remember? Bob yet? kebab rice and hummus? Oh, nice, which was Joe. And I got it. And so it was adorable. By the way in the picture. It is. Yeah, it was. It was you know, the roll. They came out. I was like, Oh, that's not a bad bear. But it was.

 

 

It was really strong.

 

 

I thought, you know, I was like, Oh, I could drink this quickly. I know what this is like. No, no, it wasn't. Yeah, no, I did.

 

 

And so yeah, you know, just kind of, you know, sipped away at it and but you know, it It was very good. It was, like I said, it was a lot stronger than, than I anticipated. But now that's definitely kind of the the thing everyone kind of kind of said anything online that I read, and it's like, well, you know, most people just drink this straight. So if you don't want to definitely put sugar in it, and I was like, Oh, it's one of those things where you like, you know, look at it's like, oh, but I know what that tastes like. I know, not not even close to what I was, you know, thinking it was going to be but you know, that being said it was it was very good. I would definitely order it again. I'll definitely go back to that restaurant again. It was you know, it was literally a hole in the wall even what it was called. We can tell the people

 

 

that's a no okay, well, I can look it up real quick, but

 

 

like this is like a soccer shop in Tulsa. Sweet

 

 

white it up

 

 

I would just like to publicly once again say this two weeks in a row. exceptionally proud of Aaron for trying new things. This is this is groundbreaking. Really I'm very excited about this. I typed in fantastic meditate Mediterranean restaurant and the first two things pop the birth Mazzeo is Italian eatery and Papa John's like this false. As you know, I mean, Italy technically is in the Mediterranean, but I don't think I'd be specific. It's called shock. Shock Katz Mediterranean restaurant. Sh a WKT sharpcap. Monitoring restaurant wasting, like I said, really good. It's like literally a hole in the wall. But it was you know, very, very good. Hold the wall. Because we just kind of, you know, played around Tulsa for a little bit, drove around and then we drove home and called that isn't it like immediately Thunder stormed on us. So, well, we had a boom made it is that but other than that, I mean, that's that's all that I've been that we've been you know this this last weekend this week has kind of been, you know, work oriented you know, had a meeting yesterday that was definitely one of the things that, you know, this could very been easily an email because we have, you know, our administrators. And then we have, you know, people from the state that are, you know, state psychologist and like, oh, we're gonna try this new program, or we're gonna roll out and everyone's gonna be thrilled. And immediately I was I was not paying attention. I was on mute the whole time. And it was like an hour long meeting and find out, you know, hours later, it definitely did not pertain to my positions like, Well, duh, why did I have to be there? Well, you know, it's good to know what's going on. Right? Oftentimes, they do all that kind of stuff. And then like, just conveniently forget to tell you that the Things happen. So it's better that you listen to it and we're slightly bored. Then we're like, wait, what are we talking about? What are we doing next week then come out and be like, Well, yeah, we're all doing this. Oh, where did that come from? Right. So that's, yeah, so that's Other than that, that's all we've been

 

 

doing as far as work in this week wise, at least.

 

 

I've been very curious about your work this week. Actually. I was cuz I was thinking I was wondering, mostly pondering about since the big changes in the Oklahoma territory, how that affects your job as an employee in that particular territory. Yeah. Or if at all, if it's just the same thing. So I don't know yet. They probably don't know yet. Because it's, there's some of the people that I talked to and just kind of guessing it doesn't really change. My job as much in with any investigation that has to deal with any of the tribe. Yeah. Or any of the tribes, you know, I have to notify them. And then some tribes actually go out on investigations with me. Yeah, but I didn't know since since it's now

 

Collin  

a lot of it

 

 

there's a lot more that's like officially tribal land area. Yes. But oh, but if you're doing an investigation on not a tribal member is it still might not matter. I'm These are questions they had. So it only matters if the individual is affiliated with a Native American tribe. And if it narrow, the tribe kind of does its own thing. Normally before kind of all of this if something happened. Yeah, let's say you know, we we had to take you know, we'll do something involving with child safety. And you know, notify the tribe. Okay, look, we know tribal individual. This happened. Sometimes they're like, add Nah, it's fine. You guys take care of it. Sometimes that tribe in question will be like, hey, actually, no, we, you know, since you're doing this, we would actually appreciate if we ran through our courts. Yeah. Now, I believe that since you know, it granted if it was, you know, a house on let's, you know, take the Osage nation and, in general, there's some places in the town of busca, where some streets, you know, all the houses on that block are tribal affiliated, or on federal land. Yeah. And so I have no jurisdiction over there whatsoever. So if there was something that happened on stricted land, then it would automatically go to the tribal court or the or the federal court. But if it was like a block away that was on state land, with the tribal, official or tribal member, but the tribe didn't want to proceed Do legal action or something, it would still go to the state. But now I think that line is right on county line where they got that picture that I sent you guys. Yeah, that had the, you know, the tribal lands or whatever. I think that since if it happened on one of those if it was a Native American official or affiliate on Native American land, then it would automatically go to that. But as far as my job goes, I think I still do the same. I still notify the tribe unless they tell me otherwise. But I think I stay the same unless it's on federal restricted land. But that happens once in a blue moon basically. I was curious, because that's a big shift in the Yeah, so I mean, in boundaries, I guess. But, I mean, it doesn't make sense if as long as it's not. Like if it's if you're doing an investigation on somebody Who is not a member of any tribe then it would just be ya know it normal thing. Yeah. Nothing like that changes the only I think the main kind of big thing is if it it mostly pertains to like criminal instances. Criminal shoes. Good point. Yeah.

 

Collin  

The actual predator

 

 

prosecute. Yeah. Well and like it's like other crimes yes like that the police would investigate and stuff like that too as far as child welfare goes, I think it pretty much stays the same I haven't received the email statement I mean for now until there's some friday so they're probably still trying to figure some of that stuff out. Because it literally just happened but yeah, there's a lot of people that I've talked to and as far as my administration goes, they're like we didn't even know this was happening. Oh, cool. Okay. So that kind of says the kind of heads up that we got from it. Well, I think mostly nothing really changes. Until you know something happens on restricted land with Tribal tribal workers that's that's a whole different ballgame that I I don't ever deal with so I can't really tell much. Well, that's fair. Sweet. I just I was just curious like I said, so I yeah, I'm also equally curious because like, then I have no idea what they're gonna do. So it's it's all it's all a mystery to me too. Oh, yeah. mysteries. Yeah, so I hit it that's that's usually kind of things that happens like Well, hey, this is happening. Oh, does anyone know what's going on? Nope. Okay, well, I will wait for your, your, your direction and your guidance and that that happens a lot of times in the state. So it is me. It is also a waiting game. So yay. Well, cool, man. I mean, I guess we should probably explain exactly what that court decision was. Oh, that's fair. That's true.

 

 

I don't know

 

Brandon  

what sorry. To be vague, I've forgotten.

 

 

No. Do you have a pulled up call? Because I don't know what the actual Like what? It's the?

 

Collin  

Nope. No, it was basically that that you guys are saying there that this Supreme Court ruled recently that half of Oklahoma is with Eastern is Eastern eastern Oklahoma. Yeah, eastern half is Native America, is it considered to be within a native Native American reservation? Basically meaning that how criminal and civil cases both past and future are going to be handled? Because as you mentioned that now there is this tribal element and how it gets taken into account. In the in the court system? Yeah. And especially because

 

 

some of its it wasn't necessarily traveled before

 

 

because the whole basically Eastern part is sub divided up into various different regions based on the tribal affiliation, that about correct. Right. Yeah. So just Kind of seeing that new demographic, and what kind of stuff has to change? Just when in handling of all these things is pretty dramatic. Right? So like, how does it? How do you do it? How does it work? Just, I don't know, mystery sizes. Everyone's very intrigued by that. It effectively elevates the

 

Collin  

the sovereignty of the Native American nations. Yes, it within those territorial boundaries, it gives the elevates them a little bit give them a little more prominence in the court of law.

 

 

Yeah. Which is, you know, good because they need representation and, and the ability to do that stuff. And so that's, again, I haven't read up too much on it. So I don't want to speak too much because I'm very ignorant in this matter currently. So I was very intrigued by that. It's kind of how they're gonna handle it stuff. So yes, I was interesting. The big thing I think Do you know someone who actually has pulled up? I think it originated from the Choctaw Nation and a criminal case that they were kind of having to handle. I think it really kind of kicked off a few months ago. I've been last year, I can't remember, the governor of Oklahoma, basically was like, Well, you know, the, you know, Native American tribes aren't paying for, you know, there's a certain percentage that they make from, you know, casinos and stuff that goes back to the state. And there's a whole there's a whole big hubbub that Native American tribes weren't paying, quote, unquote, enough. And a lot of the times were like, no, we're paying a pretty good amount. And so I think a lot of it still stems from that.

 

 

And kind of that whole big ordeal, I think, then this kind of just kicked over and laid over in general. Yeah, yeah, basically they're saying that the Aaron just to the court case was Nicaragua versus Oklahoma where he is he was part of the seminal nation on the creek reservation.

 

 

He was convicted for crimes

 

Collin  

on Creek land. But he was tried by the state and he argued that the state did not have jurisdiction. So yeah, that's origin federal. Yeah, that's what this thing here. Yeah. And they agreed with him. So basically, it certainly was a major crimes committed within any boundaries of reservations. Must they have to be prosecuted in federal level? If a Native American is involved? Yeah. So that's that because of certain past treaties and how they were because the treaty is with the federal government, not with the state. Yeah, that's the that's that's what they're they're saying here. And so that's it keeps that relationship between the the nation and the the government going back and forth instead of to the state. Because those treaties again, weren't, weren't,

 

 

weren't made when Oklahoma was State there, you know, there were about four Oklahoma was a state.

 

Collin  

Yeah, they weren't. They weren't

 

 

between the the the Native American nations and the state there with the Native American nations in the federal government anyway.

 

Collin  

But But what this means is that they're gonna have to go and dig into all of the past convictions between the Native American and the state began. Now those technically were wrongfully tried II and so

 

 

there's well does does the statute of Well, no, I guess, because, yeah, no, no, no, no, I'm thinking about my mouse. Oh, no, that's right. Yeah, they'll go, because the the ruling was made under pretenses and the laws change now. So

 

Collin  

yeah, so these are, these are considered wrongful convictions because the state actually did not have the jurisdiction that they thought they did.

 

 

Yeah. It's very interesting. Whoa, yeah. And this also says that Arizona, New Mexico and Montana also have large exit function in this manner.

 

Collin  

Yes. So this is kind of getting caught up with with some is. Yeah. So

 

 

there was a precedence for this. Yeah.

 

 

I mean, it's good to because you know, think, I think.

 

 

I think that when people think about Native American areas, I think they, they predominantly think about Arizona, New Mexico, Montana. I think a lot. I think we forget about Oklahoma a lot. Maybe not us because we're it's literally like right here. Definitely not hearing. Right. But I think a lot of other people kind of forget about Oklahoma, because it's, you know, mostly, again, mostly we think about like Arizona, Montana, Wyoming, like these places. Not necessarily Oklahoma, and it's weird, very odd history of all this stuff. So Oh, yeah. It's very bizarre. Yeah, no expert in that either. But the little that I do know is like Wait, what

 

 

The biggest thing that happens a lot is, you know, especially when, you know when talking and dealing with the tribes,

 

 

particularly and particularly the Osage is a lot of times people kind of feel that, you know, or, you know, Native Americans still think that, you know, when you think of Native Americans people think like, Well, you know, I think of, you know, history of, you know, the Trail of Tears and all that stuff, but no talking with them, they're like, no, we're still, you know, we're still, you know, an organized, you know, group of individuals that we, yeah, we have history, but, you know, we're still like, in society, you know, when, you know, and all this stuff, and that's kind of stuff you have to look at, especially in my job, and I was like, Oh, yeah, you know, like, Well, you know, it's not, you know, it's not just about the history, it's like, you know, I'm a, you know, I'm a person now, like, yes, there's history, but you know, there's all this other stuff that we have to deal with on a daily basis. And now we went through all that kind of stuff. And it's just interesting now, you know, being a lot more wiser in, you know, kind of what I was, you know, a year ago to what I am now and, again, a lot of stuff that I've had to deal with and, and see and also, you know, the people that I work with and all the stuff I've learned, it's like, oh, wow, this is now people think that this is no history is like no, there's people that are still here today living breathing. So I mean that's that's a very interesting point because you do hear about the history, right. But then there there is not a ton of exposure, about kind of the trials and tribulations of the Native American peoples after that, yeah, the modern, the modern history. Right. I think everybody kind of has that. You know, kind of washed over it. have like, Oh yeah, this happened in like, the late 1800s. And that's the last anything anybody ever heard of it? Like,

 

Collin  

you stop it? No, we did. We stopped at the Trail of Tears and we go yeah, and then they found their land. Okay. And anyway, so what else?

 

 

And I think many residents of the Dakotas would have a different opinion.

 

 

And that's something that, that I found. I one of the, like, the coolest classes I took in college was a study of you know, modern Native Americans. And it was mostly kind of the

 

 

whole Oh, you would ask about the class

 

 

kind about issues of modern day nobody Americans, everyone I heard the comments section screaming that you know, everyone asked

 

 

about the things that people you know, how Native American tribes deal with you know, today you know, the one of the best examples We had from the class was the one of the pipelines up in Canada. in the, in the 1990s. That was like, oh, Pete, you know, this is a steel still a thing that, you know, tribes are still having to deal with, you know, 2030 some odd years later. Yeah, I think that's the only unfortunately that's that seems to be the only time that their their particular issues get brought up is whenever there is an oil pipeline involved, because I'm just trying to think off top my

 

Brandon  

head any other times I've heard about this.

 

 

Oh, it always has to deal with oil pipelines, either through Canada or North America, right, like the Dakotas or other places. Yeah, it seems to be only about that. That's kind of the only time that they're brought and I think it's one of the things I think is, uh, you know, I don't I personally don't know where to get that information? Yeah. Like I don't, even if I wanted to, which I do, obviously, because I've always interested in these type of things. I don't know where to find it. You know? So I think it's, there's a big kind of vacuous hole there. Yeah. It's difficult to find things like that. Well, at least for me, myself, it's definitely, you know, vastly easier on my end, because if I have a question about something I can literally, you know, email the, yes, the outreach programs, for sure. and stuff, but yeah, a lot of stuff. You know, I literally just find in, in books that I, that I purchase about, you know, modern, modern issues, know, things like that, that I've just accumulated. And then I've, you know, have some tribal members that, you know, give me some literature. There's one A group of people that I've, you know, talked with about, you know, it's like, hey, look, where can I go to learn, learn more? And yeah, you know, history books about things, you know, they're super cool. But you know, that doesn't really help me a lot of you know, talk, it talks about the culture and things like that, which are super cool and super helpful. But you know, it's like, you know, modern, modern issues that some of these people are. Yeah. And how does that how does that culture translate to modern time? Yeah. How are they? How is it still being practiced? Yeah. And what does it look like now? Because I do know, I did read somewhere. I don't remember any. I don't remember the details about this vaguely. I have something about coming of age ceremony. A lot of the younger people in this particular tribe, which I apologize, I can't remember, are becoming more interested in that. Right. Like it's becoming more of a Oh, yeah. Hey, this is a thing by the way. It's really cool. And so they're kind of taking more pride in that, which I think is very exciting. Very cool, and sharing that with other people outside to see, hey, this is an important thing. Look at it. Look how cool it is. Right. I think that's an important thing to do. I think it's really cool. Yeah, the so one of the cool events that that happens is this something that's called Native American summers? What is it called? engineer summers. And so that, that there it's kind of like a big festival program that talks about, you know, bringing in and I mean, that that's just one example. You know, there's, you know, several things that the, the Osage do outreach programs about? And I was like, Hey, you know, you know, taking all of the the youth of, you know, anyone that is affiliated or just wants to learn more, like, Hey, you know, you're welcome to come these things. And yeah, they kind of talk about like, Oh, you know, this is what, you know, this Tradition is this is what this kind of does. And, you know, there's, I know there's a camp that the host, the Osage nation puts on, and I was invited by some of the workers, and then COVID happens like cool. Um, but you know, again, they talked about laying all the you know, it's a program a camp that we bring young Native Americans to or anyone that just wants to learn about, you know, stuff like that, that you know, talks about, you know, if they are this is what you know, traditionally we do in this certain things then talks about, you know, the different clans and all their practices and stuff like that. And so they have little neat little programs and camps and stuff that they that they do, but actually, I've never had an opportunity to go well, yeah. But there's things here and there that they have in the house is kind of awkward or people kind of look at you funny. When there is no six foot white guy like me shows up. But

 

 

it's something that's very, you know, again, fascinating to me and I'm always trying to you know, reach out to a lot of the tribal workers and understand some of like the you know, not not the practices because it is a little bit kind of impolite to kind of, you know, yeah, you know, traditions and you know, religion and stuff like that, but just learning just be able to understand like, kind of things like that, you know, can definitely go a long way with someone especially, you know, when the state shows up and you know, yeah, some questions and they're like, Oh, you know, this person's actually, you know, being respectable at this like oh, okay, and so it's you know, little things like that and definitely go a long way and it's been plus it's, it's unique and interesting to learn. I think that's the biggest part for me, that's always been it's very unique and interesting. Right? A lot of this stuff is just like I said, voice it's really kind of cool. From an from an outsider's perspective. It's just neat. And kind of just that window that you get to Oh, that's pretty cool. That's like a ancient thing, or that's like, you know, this tradition, it's been handed down for so long. And, again, I think it's good that, you know, at least from what I've been able to see that within the last, you know, several years or so, more of that's coming out, because a lot of time for a long time, it was repressed and like, not allowed, you know, like, you can't do this. It was either done in secret, or they just didn't do it for a few years, but only the the older generation remembered how to do it. And it's slow a lot of that sort of slowly kind of coming back out the spotlight, say, Oh, hey, this is our thing. There's a thing that we do. And it's I just think it's cool. I think it's really neat. And I think you know, I guess I think I like learning about it just because it's it's interesting, and it's just a new kind of different thing that I don't know about. Yeah, in a You know, again, unfortunately, the very marginalized, you don't hear a lot about it. And some of the stuff can be difficult to find if you don't live right smack dab in the middle of the Osage nation like Aaron does.

 

 

Or have to interact it with him, you know, on such a Yeah. Basis kind of thing.

 

 

Yeah. It's, it's definitely something that I, you know, was kind of not prepared for, you know, granted being a history person. And I was like, oh, but I know what, you know, kind of what I'm getting into, like, I was completely blindsided by all this. So, again, that's the that's the important part, like no part of it. But what about the last like, 50 years even? Like, oh, that's kind of a black hole for me. Like I don't? Yeah, likewise. Yeah. That's cool, though. So yeah, it'd be very interesting to see how that pans out in

 

 

cases moving forward and

 

 

Yeah, I think yeah, I think it's good. Yeah. I'm gonna be interesting. So hopefully Good things come out of there. We'll see.

 

 

To call you back.

 

 

Well,

 

Collin  

we, uh, let's see here. How far are we into this recording? See if dad's gonna still be listening.

 

 

He's asleep. He's asleep already.

 

 

Yeah, yeah. No, we were originally gonna go to go to dad's this weekend.

 

 

And just relax and play around. But he he hurt his knee and his shoulder. So

 

Collin  

we didn't want to go down. Right? We didn't want to bother him. Mostly because the kids would need him to walk have him pull them up and down the driveway of the wagons and that's true. You know?

 

 

Maybe Maybe you could have hooked them to the Roomba. Yeah. Hey, guys got enough horsepower and

 

 

we made sure of it. Yeah. No and then I can just follow it around little Noah talking about cereal.

 

 

So, yeah, so we we decided we're gonna go down anyway to we so we rented a house just for a night in Springfield and we drove down Friday and we actually drove south to garrison and swam x one in Swan Creek. There's a little Ford there.

 

Collin  

It's past so 125 comes down over Swan Creek and if you go past it, quarter mile hook, right. There's a little Ford back there. We swim around in there and the kids loved it. It was so

 

 

much fun. The Creek was beat all the crayfish we you know, we got several crayfish I found in Ozark mad Tom that I called my hands.

 

 

Oh, okay.

 

 

And we just played into the water was way down. It was down barely barely Shin high on me. Which was great for the kids. right because they're little for reference colonies very tall debris. So like Shin Hye

 

 

on him is still like, you know,

 

 

for some people that scatter that's, you know,

 

Collin  

right next to white right next to the crossing and the reason I was comfortable at this crossing is because it was fully vented so it was it's meant to be toggle it doesn't have to overts on it. And it's wide open huge huge opening space beneath the river can move as it wants to it's not being funneled through these little death traps. Yes, indeed. So right next to to the to the bridge was five feet deep, but you know, so it was really nice, really pretty great weather. I really loved it. Eight in town, went grocery shopping, got up the next morning, did a few more errands and then came home on on Saturday and actually stopped at

 

 

Palm to the table. State Park. And oh, like there.

 

Collin  

Yeah, I had never stopped there.

 

 

I mean, I remember we took the sailboat out like twice a palm to tear it. Yeah, dude,

 

Collin  

maybe I did with dad. But maybe never we never really, really swam or did. I'd never been to that lake and it's only an hour. It's only an hour from our house.

 

 

Yeah. So it was like, Oh, well, this is pretty cool. And this is where the boat conversation came from. Aaron, we found it. Found the Genesis right here. Yes.

 

Collin  

Well, so Mike and I were were sitting there looking at boats as people driving by a man's like a full kind of boat. And I was like, Oh, this boat. This Chris craft from 1947 has been fully restored. Don't you love it? and Megan stared at me and was like, where do you go to the bathroom? And I was like, yeah, so that kind of boat is not gonna be in our price range of our price

 

 

ever, ever. He might know you can get one of those little chemical toilets and a towel and yeah Anytime, anywhere and once you find Think, think of Megan and see Yeah, okay. We're talking about fall gone wrong.

 

 

If we if we were to we would deal

 

Collin  

with a portable chemical toilet in a towel things have gone terribly wrong. Sure that's Collin dealing with that because she's really mad.

 

Brandon  

Because he bought a 1947

 

Collin  

Yes, yes. I love this so much and anyway yeah, there we go kills it. I did

 

 

not know that potato lake was that close to your house? Yeah. Yeah, it's only thing I realized that neither I honestly it neither did I until I was like oh, oh, that's what I feel better because I'm not a Missouri street biologist and I

 

 

should know the locations and maybe water. I only know about them whenever there's a problem and people yell at about again, I'll just say it's very it's not a very big like

 

Collin  

it's the It's a small as far

 

 

as like lakes in the Ozarks. Go to small one. Yeah, I mean, it's bigger than fellows. Well, I quite bad lake is like a pond. It is Be honest. That kind of reminds me of you know, going up to Illinois every summer to lakes over also a pond. Yeah. When I was little I was like, Man, this is like an ocean in Illinois. That's crazy. Yeah, right. A few years ago back with me. I was like, Oh, that's it. Oh, yeah, I remember that day when I was a kid. It was like, Oh, this is a giant lake. And I want to back in like high school was like

 

 

oh, this is a lady. No, I

 

Collin  

remember them talking. Telling stories of like them driving across it in the winter and being like there's no way that's crazy. Yeah, and like no Lake Michigan and say that no. Sand no yeah. sands besides It's exactly like it. And

 

 

I when I was little, I thought it was like super huge but it's literally like 200 yards across. Some gas really bad. Yeah, so

 

Collin  

we did that. It was great. There's hardly anybody out. And we were only there for like an hour and a half or so just because of the whole travel time thing. And then the kids napped on the way back home and we crashed hard, hard Saturday night like it was. Yeah, I slept for like nine and a half hours.

 

 

Great.

 

Collin  

Cuz we were just we were just I know, I didn't know it was just a lot. But yeah, so that was that was a lot of fun. We It was a fast trip. It was like I said it was less we were gone from our house for 24 hours. Yeah.

 

 

But it was good. It was a lot of fun. So we have to do that again soon. Go find go back to garrison or someplace similar. Go play in the creek. Go to Craigslist, look at boats and but or

 

Collin  

Facebook Messenger or Facebook

 

 

marketplace marketplace. That's true.

 

Collin  

Yeah, no, that's where you have some. There's some really interesting ones on there.

 

 

That's what Susan's been having a virtual garage sale this last week. She's put a bunch of stuff on here. And she'll like randomly be like, Hey, I'm going to Lowe's to drop this stuff off of this person like what I buy.

 

Collin  

That is Megan's one of her favorite pastimes is getting stuff like either looking around for stuff that we haven't used in six months, or going and picking up a box where someone's like, hey, there's I've got three boxes for $5. And maybe I'll go buy it and then piece them out. You know, $1 item here dollar item there. And just yeah, we meet at the CVS here in town. That is the spot where everybody else needs. We've been meeting people at the Lowe's or the Walmart parking lot. That when I say we, I mean her. Yes, about I know, I am Funkhouser and I don't sell anything, right. I know

 

 

how this works. Like, I bought it for a reason why, right? Like I didn't, I do. Buy Lots of things on a whim but that's like little tiny stuff. Sure junkie. Or like that thing over there, right? Like big purchases, like I agonized over whether or not I should buy them once I buy mine river or dragon dragging it up, sit on it for life. Small Town. Okay. Howdy smug. Yeah.

 

 

So it's no, it's really cool. And anyway, there's there's a lot of neat ones on there again, ones that have been fully restored.

 

 

And just so that's been fun.

 

 

But I think the other thing that was interesting this week that doesn't have to do with anything that we've ever done was a science article that I read a research article not not in sciences from another publication, but we're researchers. I'm gonna say this statement and I want to see what the impact was. They hybridized

 

 

a Russian sturgeon. Within American power, oh, that's the picture I saw. And I was so confused. Why? Why did I do that? And what on earth is that monstrosity look like? It's really cute. It's really cute. Is it? It's now that I think the only I think the only maturity to 30 days. And then they said reason as it. Yeah. Oh, no. Oh no no no at the age of a one year

 

 

yeah. under intense rearing conditions. Yeah so they actually did remain longer than that. how big they have that thing get I know. Imagine imagine a paddlefish with kind of like a little bit more bumpy armor on it. And then imagine a sturgeon with a little more smooth kind of slimy looking thing going on. But what's crazy about this is the nose look like that's what that's the thing just hammering out the nose is weird. I'll send you a an article about this but

 

 

the nose is weird. But what is really weird is that this isn't just A species

 

Collin  

difference here hybridisation. That's a

 

 

different fish type difference

 

 

families there.

 

 

That's a different family, right? Because it's not.

 

Collin  

And to add to this, the paddle fish

 

 

is a known triploid. Oh,

 

 

interest All right, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. Sorry, the sorry.

 

Collin  

Sorry, the mess that up the the sturgeon is a known tetraploid.

 

 

The paddlefish is a diploid, the hybrid is a functional triploid. So it's so yeah, let's Yeah,

 

Collin  

right. That's where things get weird because triploid 's usually don't survive in the wild triple o r r. So what this what this thing is deployed means two copies of the genetic material that standard humans humans are deployed. We have two copies our V genetic material in every cell, but animals different species He will just by nature have different copies. So the the Russian sturgeon actually has four copies. So they're tetraploid.

 

 

And

 

Collin  

triploid means they have three copies. And that causes a lot of problems when during mitosis and meiosis when things are breaking down and gametes are being shuffled around. And actually, a lot of fish that are tetraploid don't survive very long or cannot reproduce themselves. So carp Asian carp will they've genetically bred those to be tetraploid so that they cannot naturally reproduce and become super invasive in wild populations. And so tetraploids typically don't do very well. But these are these are fine tetraploids bizarre craziness this whole thing is just has thrown the fish science world into a huge dizzy because everyone's like,

 

 

like you said Why? Cool, why would you do that?

 

Collin  

Why would you think to do that? And the only reason I can think of the literal only reason is for caviar purposes. The I mean, yeah. is to facilitate some sort of weird sick demented need for more or better caviar. Well, I

 

 

know that that's a that's a problem with the Russian sturgeon because there are certain species of Russian sturgeon that are possibly extinct, right or critically endangered. Because of overfishing is just so rampant for caviar. That's the only thing they want is the caviar. And

 

 

I can't because there's several species of sturgeon

 

 

in Russia. I can't remember which one Exactly. It was the big blue one, but the big balloon, and that's the biggest one. Yes. Yes. That's the big boy. Like we're talking about doing well. No, but that's a bit that we're talking like 18 feet of sturgeon, right like a monsterous break. dickless stupid big. That might be a bit of an exaggeration. But

 

 

that could be if for some reason

 

 

about paddlefish don't mature faster. Right there. They're both these are both a long lived very slowly slow

 

Collin  

maturation kind of thing. So I have again, I don't know, the real reason behind this and the research was done by people here in the US. Or at least part of it. Part of it was, I mean, it was it was in collaboration with Yeah, people over in Hungary and people here in looks like Kentucky. There are some people from there so it's because I get into Syria bizarre. I don't understand why on earth and the research article doesn't tell you why. They just say hey, look what we did. Isn't that cool? You're like

 

 

why would you want to

 

 

Yeah, this this specimen here the largest accepted record for a Beluga sturgeon is a female from 1827 in the vulgar estuary. 3400 pounds 23 feet seven inches long. Yes, big one. That's insane. That's insane for any international listeners out there 1000 about 1500 kilograms. Yeah. 7.2 meters.

 

 

It's a ridiculous

 

 

Holy cow.

 

 

Yeah, no, I don't. Yeah. So,

 

Collin  

again, I don't understand why they would do this. They've done it and many people are now like blight and trying to figure out in obviously questioning a lot of the science to to see exactly what happened.

 

 

But

 

 

anyway, that's pretty interesting. So weird looking. That's been fish man. Yeah. Oh, did you hear a fish? Yeah. Which ones which? So the sturgeon is on top is a after a we're gonna put this on Instagram for the people as well. You got to do this. This along with Aaron's adorable coffee cup. Yeah, okay.

 

 

Yeah, I'll put this out. So, yeah,

 

Collin  

as the sturgeon bees, the paddle fish and then it shows this progression and I think Dee Dee Dee Dee Dee's the paddle, okay, I think and then, so they had these two different lineages that came from them B and C

 

 

data. The top one was the

 

Collin  

was the triploid and C two, B was a triploid. And C was a was another diploid. So triploid diploid version variations of those. Yeah, again, it's so they actually had two different two different levels of two different ploidy Levels I mean came as

 

 

weird I understand the different why they look different but the quality levels is ridiculous. Yeah, the faces were it's definitely the most prominent. Well, the back there back the ridge.

 

Collin  

Yes. Right. So so you can see there's a heavy influence of a one of the other

 

 

yesterday on the top one up,

 

Collin  

right but even see is a heavily modified body form compared to Well, that's true to the paddlefish. Like, the sturgeon is very is expressing these very characteristic traits out the entire thing. The only real difference is the, the the skin type on

 

 

Yeah, but also also the cute little move.

 

 

I would be most interested in seeing a picture from the bottom of where in the world his mouth is. Yeah, yeah, I guess you can't tell by that. Yeah, you can't tell by that because sturgeon are bottom feeding fish and they have a mouth that is on the bottom of their body. Think like sucker fish but monstrous, right? Yeah, but the paddle fish is a filter feeding fish that has a giant gaping mouth. Yeah, it's enormous

 

 

So

 

 

yeah, I want to see what its mouth looks like. Yeah it's very interesting. So weird Why are you yeah they don't they don't provide very many of them they just provide those side real side ones but to be a science we need more pictures oh and

 

 

so I thought that was that's that's pretty messed up like why did you Why did you

 

 

know I know the boy that's cool and all but why but why

 

 

here put into one

 

 

monster fish. Yeah right that's nice are those really cool and it's been good lots of Lots of discussion about that going on in the world and fisheries. Yeah, you don't see too many of those kind of research projects. No, I mean, rightly so. Like I don't really think that's like some shared like

 

 

sci fi stuff. Hey, we're just gonna put these two species together see what happens.

 

 

Wait, right. Yeah, it doesn't make it doesn't make any sense. But anyway, the rest of the novel is something terrible happening like

 

 

taking over the world and wow

 

 

that's so weird. Oh my god.

 

 

Yeah, yeah, I'm thrown off by this. Okay, no, I'm sorry, question.

 

Collin  

Beat literally just everybody else like it's not. It's not just you.

 

 

Oh, man. Oh, yes, sir Toby did. All right. What we've done well

 

 

yowza Okay.

 

 

Yep, pretty much mutant fish got out.

 

 

Because I don't even see how that would help us, I suppose kind of because both of those fish are pretty endangered. Right? Because a paddle fish they don't make a paddle fish. Also endangered Yes

 

 

or No? Okay, paddlefish pal fish, is

 

Collin  

it? I don't think it's throughout its entire range. But yes, I mean here in Missouri, it's, it's not well, no, it's threatened in some areas. It's not in danger, because you can't there's paddlefest harvest,

 

 

at least here in Missouri, but they're very, very, very, very memory. Yes.

 

 

Yeah. So again, not not necessarily for species conservation, because both acts like stupid, long lived, slow maturing fish, not saving genetic material, like crossbreeding with a completely different family. A fish. But what it does is it provides a third third option. third option, right that now guys, I guess, if you, if you like, I guess if you think about is storing the genetic material in a separate bank, right, like a third party bank, right? Kind of you think about that way. Well, I would be more thinking of it as this isn't a from a

 

 

aquaculture

 

Collin  

reason. This is now a non native non real species like it's something completely new. So the regulations around keeping it and harvesting it and using it in aquaculture are zero, right. So if the if the Russian sturgeon is extremely endangered, and the paddlefish is extremely endangered, this is not because

 

 

my scientific species first different point of view is not a real species so you can do whatever you want with it. that begs the question, there needs to be some regulation there maybe,

 

 

because that's not good. I will say I will

 

Collin  

say that even even whenever I was doing research on endangered snails, once they were bred in captivity, they were no longer the rules no longer applied to them. That's what was in the wild first, first gen, second gen, whatever post, you know, from from the parental generation that you brought in and collected from there, that the wild, those were protected. Once you brought in versus maintaining a laboratory population, you didn't have to write reports about them. You didn't have to do that kind of stuff. It was very weird, because we know granted that what that's that's a invertebrates. Those are snails. These are fish little different, but I mean, I would not I would not be surprised if there were similar loopholes with them.

 

 

I mean,

 

 

you biologically Speaking from like a Not really I guess, right? Because you still would you still bringing them in from an outside environment, you're taking the protective species out of its environment to do something with it.

 

Collin  

Right. And in the reports and in the alerts of the regulations are going to are going to look at the parental generation and go Yeah, how are those being treated? Were they released back properly? Yeah, because those are

 

 

the ones that matter in the wild, right? Because if you think about it, you don't want to decrease the wild population. So if you bring them in you to care for them and then release them, but any offspring they have are not part of the wild generation anymore. Nope. Technically

 

Collin  

and actually, they if you are going to be releasing let's say you wouldn't you brought in Russian sturgeon bred them. Before you release them to be done properly, you would want to make sure that they had the proper genetic depth and variation with him before you dumped him back in the river. Yeah, that you did. It affected. Have a genetic analysis to see what kind of variation they had. So you weren't creating an artificial bottleneck of genetics by breeding. Just for the sake of select Yeah, you are saying individuals and just pumping those in? Yeah.

 

Brandon  

And really yeah, narrowing down the population.

 

Collin  

Right. Yeah. Which is which is what people who do fish docking have to be concerned about, right. If you bring up populations like that's a serious study, get all the fish in the lake that are related to each other? Oh, no. Oh,

 

Brandon  

no bueno. No genetic variation.

 

Collin  

Yeah. So there's even regulations around that. And now you have a completely new species. And I'm sure that the only thing that they're like that they are doing is like, please, whatever you do, don't release this and please kill it. Yeah, right. So they're like, great, we will gladly keep these and monitor their Roper. Yeah,

 

 

definitely. Yeah, that's definitely do not please

 

 

But again,

 

 

a lot like

 

 

I don't know, they've been talking about. We just talked about the economics of caviar market. Right? It's still no matter if let's just pretend this, it becomes a farm generated source of caviar, it will still be economically viable to illegally harvest sturgeon from the river. Because that's what happens now. Right? There's like it's not necessarily the legitimate market. There's like a giant black market for this stuff. For some reason. For sure, these are things that I don't understand

 

Collin  

why it matters because it's not tasty, right? Nobody likes it. But yeah, there there will be things like the flex right like Yo,

 

 

I bought this expensive thing. Exactly. Though,

 

Collin  

there'll be there's the flex and then there's the rarity of the Beluga sturgeon or being able to say this is the caviar from that but if you are not having to supply the world demand for caviar on the back of endangered species, and you have this supplemental product being pumped into the market, that's going to offset that balance a little just, that's gonna start balance that's offsetting that balance, right? You flood it with a more readily available cheaper option. You're gonna, you are going to satiate a portion of that market who maybe might not care that where exactly it came from, they just want caviar. And as long as it's decent,

 

 

they're gonna they're gonna go in by that. By that argument, you can already get other caviar just fine. Right? It's not like caviar from other fishes or other sturgeon with stable populations is not a problem. Sure. Right. It's so if you're just concerned about having any old Kvr well, then that those people already don't care. They're eating whatever. It's it's that I think you're under estimating me amount of people. There are they want that stuff, right? This is why we have no elephants. Sure. This is why we have no rhinos, this is why the northern white rhino is functionally extinct. Right? Right. There's like, three females. Whoops. Okay. And it's not it's not even a global market. It's one singular market. And within that market, within that unspecified market,

 

 

definitely, to the west of Russia.

 

 

Yeah. And south of now, within that one market, it's even then a extremely small percentage of the population that wants that. But that group of people is driving those animals to extinction because they want the horn. Yeah. You know, I mean, it's not even from what I understand and have read. It's not a big No, it's not like millions of people from this unspecified Asian country.

 

 

Oh, geez. Oh, geez.

 

 

Russia, Russia is in Asia. Okay, let's just be real. It is sure. Oh, you already added it. Fine.

 

Collin  

I didn't say it. I didn't say anything. You're either making a video about this anyway, I'm not.

 

 

I'm saying wait.

 

Collin  

It's not that the fact it's the fact that the supply is so limited no matter what the demand is the supply.

 

 

Right. So I would say that anything, okay.

 

Collin  

I am not advocating for this work work to be done. Like, people should stop eating caviar because it's gross and disgusting. Like, let's just put that out there. Like I mean, yes,

 

 

that's true. But

 

Collin  

I'm not arguing from like pro caviar. No one's I'm not in big caveat is pockets here. No one's paying for these statements.

 

 

But I am saying is that it can just be rough. Nobody wants to eat. Who wants to eat fish eggs? Yeah. If you've looked at them before. It's the grossest looking

 

 

it. I don't get it. So,

 

Collin  

if you're if your job is if your goal is to grow a market, but the supply is inherently limited by endangered species,

 

 

yeah, you're looking for growth. What do you have to do you have to find new avenues of growth, just from a market stand. I don't believe that the people procuring these ingredients are the least bit concerned about the longevity of their occupation.

 

 

Right. This is a Get my money now.

 

 

Oh, you don't have to worry about it. Right, right. It's, it's, I can make a ton of money in two years. I'm good to go. Right? Or you just shift your focus to something.

 

Collin  

They're just I know, right? They're just knitting feeds until the last chop.

 

 

This is what's happening. Yeah. Yeah. And but I'm saying

 

Collin  

if there are other actors who again, who knows the motivations behind this, this is pure speculation we've got but but you could see how somebody's true you know, looking down the road if I want to continue to be a millionaire billionaire in this industry. Let's work on something let's do some research says good mistake.

 

 

That's fair. But I will say how many times have you read this exact story? A

 

 

fish farm

 

 

bloods, entire stock released into local river system every every single time. Yeah, right. So that is not I don't know why, let's again, we're only projecting that this is the motivation. But if that's the case, it happens every time because they always build these dumb things in the Mississippi River floodplain and like, Oh, nothing bad could happen here in the floodplain, right of a river. Anytime we're in like a hurricane zone, right?

 

Collin  

Anytime, anytime these markets have been tried to take place and it's not just fish I mean,

 

 

that's why Florida that's that's why

 

Collin  

Louisiana has nutria right? That's why they have that's why they're there because they were like, you know what, these beavers are going down. This nutrient pellet ain't too bad. Let's bring them in. And then they got out slash were released because the market crashed and nobody wanted to do anymore because they were on the back end of that bell curve.

 

 

But anyway, it Yeah, that's why we have those crazy cars. Bob basically in Lake Michigan, right? Yeah, because they were brought over. They were delicacy started in Louisiana, Mississippi, on a farm, and the farm flooded and they got into the Mississippi River. Right now they're in Illinois River. Once again,

 

Collin  

big caveat is not paying for any of these statements and that's why I don't think this is a good idea and nobody should be trying to harvest these or manufacture these and big aquaculture systems. It should not be done. And anyone who thinks that it's a good idea needs to go get some self help.

 

 

That's what I think. Yeah. Creating, there's something intrinsically wrong with creating an entirely new species specifically for profiting off to it to then exploit

 

 

exclusively right that's Yeah. That becomes its sole function

 

 

exploitation. What What in the world is wrong with you. Yeah, yeah. It doesn't make it Yeah, right.

 

Collin  

I blow my mind. Again. We have no idea the purpose behind this, but I am really dig plumbing the depths here to come up with a logical reason. But when I see paddlefish I hear sturgeon.

 

 

I immediately think caviar. That's the first thing that comes to mind with both of those species. I don't fish caviar thing. Yeah, yeah, it is. I didn't know. I didn't know that. Yeah, you can harvest it. I mean, you can again, you can eat off it. You can eat salmon eggs. Mostly, they're sold as fish bait. Yeah. That's what you're eating by the way. Think about that. If you are like, Oh man, I wonder what caviar tastes like. Go to Bass Pro. Again. Hashtag not sponsored by some fish egg bait. Actually, don't do that. Don't eat that because I don't know what else to put in there. But it's the same thing really interested. Don't don't actually do that. That sounds terrible. I'm not advocating Eating eating fish made, but it's the same. It's fish eggs. So it is you could go look at it. If you're curious what it looks like. Go to the sporting goods section, where your mask, go to the sporting goods section. Look at it, and you'll go. Oh, that looks nasty.

 

 

Oh, so So yeah, you can get a three and a half jar ounce jar of paddlefish caviar for $24.

 

 

Versus, versus again, three and a half ounces of fish eggs.

 

 

shakes versus

 

Collin  

ready for ready for this? No. finite if you can get you can get this is for a half ounce

 

 

jar of, of Siberian caviar for $41.

 

 

That's even vague. It doesn't even tell you what fish species that is

 

Collin  

it I'm sorry Siberian sturgeon. I found it again search. I don't believe

 

Brandon  

there is a species of Siberian sturgeon. Yeah.

 

Collin  

Especially because it comes from Italy.

 

 

It's a product of Italy.

 

 

I mean,

 

 

yeah. Ah,

 

 

no. Yes.

 

 

Adriatic.

 

 

Yeah. That's even vague. And you're just assuming you're just banking off the Russian caviar thing. Oh, yeah. Right. That's what you're doing here. Yeah. There's that's the, even the people that don't know, like all the like people that want to be like boujee. Right. Like, oh, yeah, it's Russian caviar. Because that's a good thing because I saw in a movie one time it was a James Bond movie or something like that.

 

 

Right? No, no, that's the only time you see it.

 

Brandon  

Yeah. You only ever see villain is eating it too by the way Think about that. Okay, spread it out a little toast with their gross like, looking like boromir his dad eating that stuff red

 

 

tomato

 

Collin  

the most disgusting The worst part of that entire trilogy was the stupid

 

 

I can't

 

 

oh my gosh I just eat hurt

 

 

symbolize him it's what's symbolized the blood of a venom throwing it away that's what he's eating into like bear

 

 

I can I think I'm

 

 

gonna Thor. Yeah, that's what that's like the lat like you see him, the super me to Pharaoh mirror and do all these like really terrible things. But then you see him eat the tomato and you're like, I hate that guy.

 

 

That's it. That's it. He's

 

Collin  

a jerk. I don't like him at all.

 

 

Excuse me. He's mean to Pippin. Right. You're like, Ah, man, that's not cool. It's like a sense for me to die. Like, oh, that's not cool. You realize that he loves Borel beer more like, Man, this guy's really bad. They eat a tomato you like

 

Brandon  

Oh, he's an animal. He's a wretched beast.

 

 

kind of monster. Monster is this man.

 

 

Oh, God.

 

 

Oh.

 

 

Including a

 

 

video that we're gonna put that GIF on there. Yeah. Oh my gosh, it's so bad. That'll go on Instagram. But this episode just yeah, of how many over and over and over anyway, but yes, back to the back to dog. I'm so distracted right now. You're welcome

 

 

because I could have nightmares.

 

 

Anyway, yes anyway. Oh row. Yeah. Anyway market for that is substantial. But who knows? Who knows? Yeah, that's it. Yeah. Again, I don't know what the market is. I mean, I imagine the markets quite high the species they provided are being driven to extinction. Yes, at least a substantial market. And again, a lot of it's driven by that like there is a market so it'll legal harvesting. Kind of ramps up Israel and, and accelerates these things. Because of the market and what people are willing to pay for. fish eggs, no nutritional value, just gross. Only

 

 

peered

 

 

vomit. Oh bad. Yeah, I don't know. If you want to eat something salty is literally 12 billion other things that you could have

 

 

including salt, including just sauce. That's true. really hate yourself that much. You have an unlimited supply of that right? We just get that straight from the ocean. Boom mango.

 

 

Wheat Salt Lake

 

 

Salt Lake like a couch like

 

 

they go. So that's been my week. Exciting.

 

 

Oh man. We need to come up with a challenge.

 

 

You had it you had an idea. I put mine out. I don't know what you guys think about that one. But you make every state that for. So I was thinking in the spirit of continuing to explore things that we know nothing about.

 

 

I thought, Hey,

 

 

we should watch a Bollywood movie and report back on our thoughts. Because I have I personally have absolutely no idea

 

 

what one of those entails

 

 

at all, and I know that on Amazon, again, not sponsored. But Jeff, what's up? Hashtag not sponsored. Yeah, I haven't I have a side note on that in just a minute continue. But I was thinking since they keep putting these out on there. I want to try to watch one and I just want to see what it's all about. Like, I want No. So I was thinking that we pick one day doesn't have to be this should probably be different ones. We might have to like communicate a little bit better this time. Hey, I'm watching this one to watch out. Because I think the selection is slightly more limited than the random button on Crunchyroll which has like a bazillion different not shocking to anybody. Yeah. I think you know, there's not a whole lot on Amazon. But there are some on prime. There's like seven maybe, but like, Okay, I think we should watch one of those and report back on our thoughts and findings of a our experience with watching a Bollywood movie for the first time. I'm all for this, and we think I'm definitely down for it. So okay, here it is. There we go. So

 

Collin  

challenges

 

 

tech just text you out, whichever one you're going to watch.

 

 

So that we don't accidentally watch the same one. That would be that would be weird. Yeah, it'd be soda Bollywood challenge. I like it. Okay, let's go to Bollywood. Gotcha. Very excited about this. excited, because I like watching movies from other countries because you get like different perspective and there's like, their showcase interesting things that I've never seen a Bollywood movie ever same. So, I want to know, I'm curious to see what's he up to? Alright, there we go. So we'll do that. Okay. Next time. I like it. Next week. Challenge accepted. Go Go.

 

Collin  

My Side note here. Did you guys hear what happened to Jeff Bezos? What? What What do Apple Jeff Bezos, Joe Biden, Elon Musk and Bill Gates have in common? They've been hacked on Twitter.

 

 

Yes,

 

Collin  

yes. Oh, all of their all of their verified Twitter accounts were very were hacked and it read something like not there, right? No, there's lots. There were only verified accounts but those were the highest profile ones and all of them said, wanting to give back to my community. Go if you if any dollar you give me To my Bitcoin account, I will give double back to you or something like that back. So in Jeff Bezos is like, oh, Jeff Bezos was like only giving up to $50 million and I was like, oh my gosh and so far before they kind of shut down the account that was the same for like Bill Gates and I forget who else was on that same one but someone who had racked up close to like $60,000 in Bitcoin, which is a Bitcoin.

 

 

A lot of Bitcoin. Oh, I didn't know that. Oh, yes, yeah or no? Right. Right. So, gotta love untraceable online currents. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Yeah.

 

Collin  

Trying to figure out exactly how this happened because they didn't wrest control of the accounts.

 

 

And none of the like two factor stuff occurred. So what they're thinking is that they didn't hack the individual They had a

 

Collin  

winner. They Yes, they think they had Oh Witter

 

Brandon  

snap, crackle pop, holy cow.

 

Collin  

Yep. And that Twitter's back in ain't so good as it was. So remember. So just imagine, just imagine, let's think of this world where instead of being stupid and asking for money, they got in and they hacked joe biden's account and they said, I'm officially resigning from the race. Yeah. Or they started tweeting out inflammatory stuff from all of these people,

 

 

or using them to disseminate terrible things. Yeah. Holy cow. Twitter, what the heck, man, that kind of thing is really, really scary.

 

Collin  

Yeah, to think that they were able that door was wide open. And so going into this election, that here in the US, like,

 

 

that level of crap, is going to be ramped up on steroids. They went for it. Now

 

Collin  

just imagine, you know, yeah, that was just the verified accounts. But yeah, millions of other users are out there who get hacked and have no idea. Yeah, and all of a sudden your account just start shadow tweeting,

 

 

stuff when flood,

 

 

flooding information and all this kind of stuff. So poll, it's very real, right? That's really scary.

 

 

Really? Nice. Yeah, because that was just today yesterday, today, because I saw I think about it, but I didn't read that much. I didn't know that. I pull up my gas. That's crazy. Yep. That's pretty scary. I'm just gonna straight up hack into the net service, and they're gonna get that plugged in hurry, shut it down for today was

 

Collin  

no more. Well, and that's what they did. That was sort of the response of they, they basically Twitter has weird controls, like, again, things that don't make sense but they came in and they said, if you have a verified account, they flipped a switch that prevented you from tweeting at all.

 

 

Whoa, Whoa, that was

 

 

Yes. So no but no. Like, that's why I couldn't tweet today.

 

 

Because like, I that's one thing that I do you know, about, you know, throughout sporadically throughout the day is, you know, get on Twitter just to see, like what's happening in the world that I'm missing since I'm in Oklahoma. And you know that you know, the thing is that popped up like the first thing on social media trending is blue checkmark. So I was like, that that doesn't apply to me because I'm not popular enough as a blue checkmark. Like, oh, that's what that is. Okay, gotcha.

 

Collin  

So yeah, if they they basically flipped a switch and if you if you were ahead verified account, you could not tweet until they sorted it all out to see you had or hadn't been hacked, but they basically banded but they basically banned like, over 350,000 accounts from from tweeting today.

 

 

Because that's how many that's how many they have that are verified. Apparently. I'm imagining There's like Mission Impossible scenes where somebody actually was like in the server room like a like repelled down to the ceiling.

 

Brandon  

Well, I think we're just like a where those giant glass towers are everything just like

 

Collin  

what they the going theory right now is because they had some screenshots going around of a Twitter control panel on somebody's laptop where the really high level accounts had their own like special bespoke portion of Twitter, back end servers that were controlled and that Twitter could go in and like, so if Biden said, Oh, I need this done. Twitter would take care of that for him. And so they're they're there. They weren't just like Joe Schmo. So they really think that it wasn't just all That's right. That's there. They're still trying to tease out exactly how all this was structured, but there's this thought that Twitter actually had an own not necessary like a concierge service but kind of like a concierge service for the big fight accounts that they that that that was compromised, which is again stupid cuz they put all their eggs in one basket and we're like of course we'll block we'll lock all the high profile things behind this key and nobody will care.

 

 

Yeah, that's a good

 

Brandon  

good net security because that

 

 

doesn't even work in actual buildings like he's also one lock on the door, and no one literally will ever break. And nobody but nobody go behind and look into my closet.

 

 

The door wasn't broken into but this window is masterpieces like this. Who knew

 

 

the really expensive crazy stuff behind this poorly locked door people try and get in? Well,

 

 

that's Yeah, I'll

 

 

be ready for that kind of stuff. No rain. Well, I'm fine. We go man.

 

 

So, next week is we're going to Bollywood and very excited about this. So Bollywood and we will coordinate into really, of course, what is going to make me want is some Indian food, which I do not have access to. And I'm,

 

 

oh my gosh, I

 

 

couldn't be very sad. So we can talk about that too. We can talk about our favorite Indian food next week as well. I think we need to reconvene in Springfield at any restaurant.

 

 

And and then watch these adapt.

 

 

Yes, because dad's stable enough to stream but

 

 

we can put you can download them and go

 

Collin  

have a ball Bollywood night. Next

 

 

to it for me.

 

 

Tell me more for Aaron.

 

 

You gotta think about Aaron. Can't make it whatever

 

 

Until then, love you guys bye