Northern lights at this time of year? Brandon gets lost. Collin gets a free dessert. Plus, we discuss sky burial and medicinal plants.

Northern lights:
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/10/science/northern-lights-aurora-borealis.html
Only slightly lost
Tornados galore

https://www.koco.com/article/holdenville-oklahoma-tornado-4-month-old-baby-dies-storms-damage/60630123

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tower_of_Silence

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Collin Funkhouser, Brandon

Collin Funkhouser 00:04

Welcome to Oh, brother, a podcast where we trying to figure it all out with your hosts, Brandon. And Colin. On this week's show. Update of sorts. Oh boy. Oh boy. Now we better be careful because the level five Northern Lights thing may may interrupt us here is true.

Brandon 00:28

That's true. Do you see it at all?

Collin Funkhouser 00:30

So I did not know that if you took a picture of it, it looked better than either because we stepped out onto our deck last night with a beautiful sky and saw this weird like purpley pink haze everywhere and went well, anyway, we went to bed woke up the next morning to Facebook flooded with beautiful photographs. I was like, Oh, we were supposed to take a picture of it interesting been

Brandon 01:05

helpful because we really drove backwards last night. Yeah. And we saw it in a pretty good at one spot. Right? But then if they ever would have had that information, it would have made the whole trip probably a bit more useful, right? Because we're just driving around looking for you know, seeing if we could get in some clear sky because we do live like right in the middle of town. Right Sure. Thought maybe if we got a little bit better. What Yeah, that information would have been great to have but uh, yeah, so other we only got slightly lost in the hollers and backroads let's find small wrong turns fine. Everything's fine. Yeah.

Collin Funkhouser 01:47

Yeah, well, I mean, if you were it wouldn't be a knightly adventure. If you didn't get just a little bit lost. It's a little bit of peril. You know what Yeah,

Brandon 01:55

we had apparel. We even apparel saw giant Apple though. So that was yeah, it was like, Okay, that's cool. I thought. So we're driving we're kind of looking at the sky and drive like very narrow road. Right. This is like very, very, like back farm roadie, right. So very narrow road. Perfect. Yeah. And all along the road we'd been seeing all these trees down right there then people like lopped the limbs off and then they drugged them off to the ditch with the tractor to come out later right. Yeah, because as I we're about to talk about very soon very whether he this week very exciting. Anyway, so I'm driving along and there it looks I just see out of the corner why this brown thing and I thought it was a part of a tree and we're driving like very slow to you by the way. And then it just takes off and we were both like where the car over a little bit right just because it caught me so off guard because it just went all of a sudden he's unfurled these massive wings just and so Susan got a very good look at it in the passenger seat because it was like right there.

Collin Funkhouser 03:16

Close Wow, it

Brandon 03:18

was like sitting on the side of the road. Oh, perfect. It was just like sitting there and I don't know if it was like eating some roadkill or something probably because there was a lot of that you know, so I've met him maybe maybe doing doing some carrion stuff or whatever. But all of a sudden they just like flapped and this huge bird just like last week was our

Collin Funkhouser 03:45

extra worth it then. Yeah,

Brandon 03:47

yeah. So yeah, we saw all the all the rest of the normal nocturnal on All right, we saw rabbits and possums and the armadillos right and then also just giant Apple right add that to the Yeah. Yeah, about me. What was not expecting that one?

Collin Funkhouser 04:11

Yeah, so yeah, we we did not have any owls or anything along those lines. We literally like, stepped out and just on our back porch, stared at the sky. I mean, it was just I was like,

Brandon 04:22

Oh, well, yeah. Anyway.

Collin Funkhouser 04:27

Well, I could have could have been way more exciting than I thought.

Brandon 04:30

I was pretty cool, though. It was neat, though. Yeah, yeah. No, it's you know,

Collin Funkhouser 04:35

I don't know how many times in your lifetime you're going to live experience at what stage five geomagnetic storm and as a complete solar eclipse lunar eclipse in the in the same year. So look at that.

Brandon 04:47

That's not all of the celestial activity. Yes. Right. Like that. Huh? Eek. It was yeah, not often you get Northern Lights in Missouri. No,

Collin Funkhouser 05:04

no. And I think they're also supposed to be strong tonight. But yeah,

05:09

may go out and live again. I think we're supposed to have about but yeah, we've

Collin Funkhouser 05:13

got we've got some strong we've got some cloud cover. So

Brandon 05:16

no we did it was okay here earlier. We're done here. So Pete can just see what's up.

Collin Funkhouser 05:24

You know, just want to bound Yeah. Mutter to yourself in the dark along through the neighborhood. Ya

Brandon 05:30

know them on the side of town has all the business lights so dark out here? Oh, that's hence the driving about yesterday. Yeah, that piece of information would have been more useful. Before we set out on our sojourn. We did get a good section of where we could see him pretty good. They're very purpley. Right. And it was really weird because like, we know, when we were driving a car like looking and like rolled the window down and looked like the more you looked at it, you're like, No, I just like vertical lines. Yeah. Okay. That's weird. All right. Let's see what Yeah, and then it's like, oh, okay, it is. There it is. In magenta II. Yes. Oh, very good. Yeah. Good job. Good job. Magnetic field. Yeah, look at you. Being a magnetic field protecting us from solar radiation. Good journey.

Collin Funkhouser 06:31

It's pretty rad job.

Brandon 06:33

Yeah, through. Course, listeners only recording this late in the week this week. As the Missouri weather has been insane. Wouldn't be is based in the Midwest. If we didn't talk about tornadoes. What the heck's up, man? Oh my gosh. First of all, gotta give a shout out. Right. And hope all as well. To all of our homies. invoca and Holden. Right? Yeah. Last week, they got a whole bunch down there all the way through Oklahoma, Oklahoma was just be rated by all of them. And then they decided to share it with Missouri. come on Oklahoma. That's not necessary. But once you share other things with us. Oklahoma smash burgers, cheese among the things that we would rather have you share with us please?

Collin Funkhouser 07:34

Absolutely. Much better weather.

Brandon 07:37

So shout out to our peeps in Holden, and Walker. Holtville. Whatever. Yeah. As soon as I got rammed Yeah, we're, we have four days in a row of Oh, no, another tornado. Oh,

Collin Funkhouser 07:53

my gosh, it was so it was just it was it was it was a blast. You know, some and I we were trying to remember the last time we had this much of an active tornado season in a while bit of while.

Brandon 08:13

And I was

Collin Funkhouser 08:14

actually, I was actually home with the family for this most recent one. And we were looking at the storms and the radar and stuff and and I was like, Oh, right. Like I man. It's that one time where I go. This is why we need broadcast TV. Ah, dang it. Because like, and the the little antennas that you need to get like you have to get a 75 mile to a 100 mile antenna to get broadcast TV for us. Because yeah, because it's way up there. We're way in the middle. Right? Yeah, middle, right in the midst of nothing. And so we don't have that and I'm trying to find it on streaming or whatever. So we're just on our phones. Like I'm scrolling through Facebook. Doing it that way. I was like, oh, yeah, this is gonna be bad. And so

Brandon 09:12

the i i It's been so long

Collin Funkhouser 09:16

since I've actually heard like a tornado siren during a tornado like actual event. Oh,

Brandon 09:22

yeah. Mic test. Not the Wednesday test. Yeah, like,

Collin Funkhouser 09:25

how do these actually work? Like, what like, you know, okay, it's blaring right now. There's nothing in the sky. Just please you're in the ward is misbehave we're in the warning, right? This is the like get get the

Brandon 09:39

to shelter, right?

Collin Funkhouser 09:42

But then like, it starts sounding again. Once the storm is closer, and then it would stop in the middle and then would start sounding again. Like

Brandon 09:55

it wouldn't they just stop every once in a while. I feel like that's what they do. They just like, I don't know. Actually no, because I don't really know the logistics of this, but they always they do that all the time. They'll lay it off. And then they come back, right? It's like a Yeah,

Collin Funkhouser 10:08

it's very, because then I was like, Oh, wait, is it? Does that mean the threat is gone? Like, or is that just like they're taking a break? And there'll be back? Or like, wait a minute, what? What is this? So no, yeah, it we we had them, we gave the blast warning. And then we were like, okay, so we just staged everything, and we were prepared. And then, like, ready to go in the basement? And then the second time they sounded, it was like, we're going down now. Cuz it was looking real bad. Yeah, yes. And I was like, Okay, well go down, get the kids down there. That everything's rockin and rollin. And never lost power. That's what I was waiting for. I was like, okay, like, here it is, you know, just watching the radar. And we'll look at it. Live streams of some kind. It's just like some guy who's like, I'm a weather enthusiast. And that's all he does. He goes live and live streams for Central.

Brandon 11:06

There's just a guy. Oh, just for Missouri. Oh, that's handy. Because some of the ones I watch her like, he does like National nationwide. And so it's like, sometimes it's hard to like, wait, no, no, no, no, I don't, Kurt. No offense, Ohio. Not currently interested in you right now. Because this storm is like feet away from my house. So

Collin Funkhouser 11:23

yeah, no, this guy is is more like Central Missouri. And then so this

Brandon 11:30

is like a niche internet thing that's discovered, right? Like it's a thing. Yeah, do and then the other broadcasting weather things from their house, the other. But like the

Collin Funkhouser 11:40

other end, they like to buy like really, really expensive high end software to do these analyses of straight lines. And stuff. Like they really like these people spend time and money and like they're really good at this. And this at one point, this guy had like 10,000 people watching him do this live stream and I was like, what the other like cheat code that I realized that I should have joined a long time ago was to join the Midwest. Storm chasers website or Facebook.

Brandon 12:08

Have a go. Ah, yeah. Would you start seeing them show up in regions that you realize you like? No basement time?

Collin Funkhouser 12:16

Yeah, when they are excitedly circling your your town? Like that's bad. 20 minutes. Like, oh, well, I'll just be down here hiding.

12:25

Yeah, I'm gonna go. Yeah. So my safe zone. Get there.

Collin Funkhouser 12:31

cleared. But you know, these everything was saying these storms really, really bad. And these are the this was but this was Monday for us. And by Monday

Brandon 12:41

for us, they rolled through like, midnight, and that's always the worst. Right? That's Yes.

Collin Funkhouser 12:47

A lot. It was not fun. Especially with the kids getting them up. And especially because No, I had had his first baseball game that night. I didn't get home until 9pm Like he was zonked. Anyway. A lot. Right? And then here I come in going. Hey, buddy, you just come with me quickly. I gotta get up for like, two seconds. Just real fast. down two flights of stairs into the basement. It's okay. We, yeah. And then come to find out like, a mile away from us an EF one touchdown on the north side of town and stayed on the ground for like, quite a ways. And just streaked through the countryside, just on the north side of town. Okay, yeah, that's actually really close. Yeah.

Brandon 13:37

Yeah. Monday, we didn't have a whole lot. It was just like, they can't they were all like north of us. Right. I think everything kind of rolled through pretty north of us. Like we hit like the southern end of the little line. Like it clipped us a little bit. But like the big storminess was like closer to like, Bolivar and stuff. Yeah. But Wednesday. No, no, no, no. And that was a little closer, right? Like, we were, we were at we were staying at school because using hat was going to do like the baccalaureate. Well, after Baccalaureate they're gonna do they can't they our school does a kindergarten Time Capsule opening. Where like, in kindergarten, they make all this stuff. And then like the seniors come back, like right before graduation, the seniors come in and they they like have a party and they like, show stuff. And they like look at pictures and old yearbooks, and all the kindergarten teachers are there right and everything. So it's kind of cool, but they canceled that. And so I was just sitting in my classroom watching several weather livestream or people and all of a sudden you like blab County was like, Oh, well. That's cool. And so Susan, obviously, text me was like so the the reception handily enough was in our female building. So she was like, you should just probably come over here, hang out for a little bit. Okay. I went over and hung out and like the sirens blared off, they're just long enough or like all the doors open, right? Because they're attached to the sirens through the National Weather Service or whatever. So if there is a tornado warning, door locks and everything automatically open in the building is available for the community to come to. Okay, that's cool. I like that. Yeah. And so they didn't really live there too long. Because the storm was mostly north of us. It was like the northern end of the county, and we're kind of like in the middle. And so like, you know, wherever they're hanging out watch stuff, like the northern part of the counties where I live. And so we're radar, it's like, wasn't real bad at work, right. But where we live, we're like, well, we could go, oh, no, no, no, we cannot. Number one, we have to drive through this horrible mess. And number two, that is the maximum hook echo moving towards our town. Yay. Will who Ray just what I always wanted. So we hung out there for a while talking to people and some staff members that were still there, like one lady that we work with. Like she also lives in the same city that we like, she lives like on the other side of town from us. So we were just hanging out chatting with her. Like, yeah, we're not going home because that's massive hail core between us and home. Oh my gosh, yeah. Why do that? So like, eventually we got like nickel sized hail. But yeah, we came home we got we saw these reports, right. And the it looked like it just like went right down the highway. Of like, McDonald's. It wasn't like real big because I got some videos, you get the video that I shared. But I share that with you. I think you did. Yeah. You said that. Or I got another one. It's probably like multiple small vortices, which explains some of the hopping that I witnessed. But like, there's basically a straight line from like a park to McDonald's. the Walmart parking lot. The hospital. Right? That's where, like they said to the hospital, that employees a bunch of windows are broken in their cars. Oh, wow. Probably like debris, I would imagine because some of the pictures I saw between those other places and the hospital is like a big wooded area. Yeah. And so I'm imagining which is where one of the barns got hit. So like. I think that's probably where some of that debris came from. Uh huh. But there was like powerlines down close to us. And so we finally went home but like we didn't know we were gonna have power by the time I was like 630 Maybe so we thought well, we could go home and see if we can get to our house because they had they said they had a bunch of the roads blocked off and so we didn't know which ones exactly and if we could get home and we didn't know like if we would even have power we got home so we decided the responsible thing to do would be go to Sonic and see

Collin Funkhouser 18:18

I mean you might as well it's on the way it was on the right as well

Brandon 18:20

hashtag not sponsored but did go to Sonic and get some tater tots and just like hang out for a little bit and then come home and what we did have power it was good. It was all good. Okay we didn't I don't think we'd lost power because somewhere we know some other people that live over here they said Is anybody you know just to be safe we went to sunny hung out you know

Collin Funkhouser 18:45

for delayed delay.

Brandon 18:50

Sure, make sure they had the street cleared off or whatever so yeah, like didn't want that to happen. Very bad. But yeah, it wasn't whatever it was wasn't like super big but it just did enough damage and it would have been on the ground for a little over a mile or so. Right? But it's it feels like it was like hopping you know how that come down and go up again to come down and like that. Yeah, because the damage path was just like, just little things kind of spread out that far until it got to like the far edge of time where I hit like the woods in the hospital. That was a lot more sustained. Yeah, the others, because it was like just I mean, the Donald sign which is blown out. Like it just like blew up because they're like hollow structures and plastic around and they just blew the plastic off. Oh, wow. Yeah. But funnily the McDonald's did say. If you are in possession of a piece of our sign and you come in we will give you free something.

Collin Funkhouser 19:53

Okay. That's fantastic. That is you know what,

19:56

that was pretty good at.

Collin Funkhouser 19:58

That's what I'm talking about people that the world needs

Brandon 20:01

like ice cream or whatever. But they're like, we'll give you free like something like during like the next couple of days if you bring in a piece of the sign. Really talk

Collin Funkhouser 20:14

that's really that's really well done. It's really it's gotta be. Gotta be real about that.

Brandon 20:19

Yeah. Yeah. So sure all of our European listeners are very excited about, yes, you do have when you live in the Midwest, right? You have to know things, you have to think about things like, where is the safest part of my house during a tornado? Where do I have to be to not get whisked off to us like where it is? Yeah, to have some sort of plan to know what happens when the weather decides that it's going to hate you that day, and you just need it.

Collin Funkhouser 20:51

So it is it really is like, okay, but we actually like, yeah, we've got to think about where we're going and like, what we bring. Now, now that we've gone through three of these turn into warnings and like going down into the basement and having Yeah, relatively close calls each time. Lillian has now heard she has to go bags packed in her room, filled with stuffies flashlight, books, notepad and like a blanket, so that at a moment's notice, she can grab them and go to the basement and make her life a little bit more comfortable sitting in our creepy basement.

Brandon 21:37

Susan's mom does a similar thing where she used to she used to. And I don't know if she has read on this now that she moved back out into with her new husband, but she used to have just a basket by the door. And it had like a little flashlight like flashlights and like snacks in it. And then that would just be that. Just go to the

Collin Funkhouser 21:58

did they actually have a storm cellar? Yes. In their home. Okay. Yeah.

Brandon 22:03

And then now in there with her. They also have like, it's like a little one of the outside this like small ones that you know, like you dig out and you bury it right? Right outside the back door. So they still have to go right outside the door. But it's like, it's like four feet outside the back door. And there's a little thing and it opens up and you go down in there. So the other one was a bit further away at their old the old farmhouse. It was but it was not too far. But yeah, she would have like a basket. She had like a go basket anyway, like stuff and she would just get it all out there. And she would put other things next to it. Like if it was getting more she would like add to the basket building upon the basket. Yeah, like her favorite thing ever is that she has one of those like, you know, there's like ever ready lantern flashlight things? Oh, yeah. It's like a big flashlight. And you slide up the handle. And it's a lanyard. Right. She has one of those and that was like your favorite thing in the world. Like even when she's leaving the apartments she would she had a spot in her closet. And like the box, she had the she had this box, it was like she's had the top cleared off and there was just like a towel and a pillow on it. And now the lantern was like Alright, nice. She's ready. She's ready to go. listeners who don't know what we're talking about, you must proceed to the most interior room of your house on the lowest floor possible. Make sure you cover yourself with any padding, blankets, pillows, towels, things like this. And remain there. Bathtubs are a great one right is classic go to if you don't have a basement, we have a bathtub, in an interior bathroom. And that is where we gotta go.

Collin Funkhouser 24:00

The other tip here is to stay away from windows. Definitely, preferably most interior.

Brandon 24:10

Next, you gotta get the flying debris, right. That's the bad one. Ah, has the hospital mentioned

Collin Funkhouser 24:18

the aforementioned discussion about Yeah,

Brandon 24:19

and Windows. Oh, yeah. Hospital windows. Not interesting. Wow. Yeah, geez.

Collin Funkhouser 24:24

Yeah. So and then you were without weirdly you were without power or like internet for like a day? Is that what happened there?

Brandon 24:30

I don't know what happened there. It was really weird. I don't know. Because there's like a cell tower like real close. I don't know if that like messed up our thing. Right. And our cell phone and then our internet place like there they were in like a more direct path of like some more severe stuff. So I don't know if they got me a lost power. Right. I don't know what happened there. But yeah, my mobile internet like went away. And it was weird because it was like when we came home it was working. And then like, it just went away. Like I had no cell service at all. Like, that's when I went to bed. It was weird. Yeah. And in the morning the cell service was kind of back. But there was no internet. And then then it now it's all back. It's very weird. Like ah, yeah. I have no idea what that was about. That was kind of weird. Well,

Collin Funkhouser 25:33

glad glad everybody is safe. For sure. Yeah, it was a wild wild for us. And then we saw on Wednesday Yeah, we were looking at people from down near their sphere Springfield. The hail that was coming down there was like it was enormous. II Norris hail baseball sized hail baseball sauce here. And it was so strong that it was for a UK viewers. It's

Brandon 26:03

a little bit bigger than a cricket ball a little bit bigger. And our Indian viewers Hello, India. How are you? Hello. Also a little bit bigger than a cricket. cricket ball. Go?

Collin Funkhouser 26:13

Yeah. Also way bigger than actual cricket. But know that it was like damaging the brick on the side of homes. Whoa. Yeah.

Brandon 26:23

I hate that. Yes.

Collin Funkhouser 26:24

One of our one of our employees send us a picture of the side of her house. That it just her brick is just looks like it has been shot. Like the brick is actually like chipped off the side. You can see these pock marks in the actual brick as it was coming down and angles and striking the side of her home.

Brandon 26:42

Yeah. Wild. Holy cow.

Collin Funkhouser 26:48

That's, that's how strong that they got hit. And I would just say, oh my gosh, I could imagine being out like writing in that

Brandon 26:56

like she's so yeah.

Collin Funkhouser 26:59

Good. Happy fun times.

Brandon 27:02

Gross. No way. No way. But yeah,

Collin Funkhouser 27:06

as part of our recovery, we went and we tried, I had to get in. You've been hogging the show with so much talk of food truck. I'm sorry. We had to go. And we had to try a new food truck.

Brandon 27:20

Oh, we're town as of like a week ago.

Collin Funkhouser 27:23

So it's been around for about three weeks. But since the first time that we were able to go to it. And I am I really liked the idea of food trucks. But also like I am so not envious of them as an actual business because oh no, like, unless you're traveling lots of places. Like you have to find somebody, what we've probably talked about is like you have to find a parking lot to share with somebody and then convince people that that's actually where you are. Because, like, if you if you give out an address, it's going to be the address of another business that people want to drive to. But like to like naps has to do that Google business has to do that. All your social media has to do that. But it's gonna point to you like another restaurant, or a liquor store, or like, you know, some office building and it's like, no, no, I'm not gonna have one.

Brandon 28:15

We have one taco truck. It's like, in the parking lot next to the O'Reilly's like,

Collin Funkhouser 28:21

and they so what are they going to do? Give the O'Reilly's address but if you look that up, people are gonna go well, but this says it's alright. Like, this is weird. So

Brandon 28:30

Collin Funkhouser 28:33

found a place we just just learned about it. It is called

Brandon 28:36

Taste of India. Oh, boy, that's I hear that's

Collin Funkhouser 28:46

good. Not get there fast enough. We were there 36 hours after I learned of its existence. And yeah, boy, howdy, we showed up and we were ready to order. And it was I was they look, we could have gone to a lot of different Indian restaurants. And so like, we know immediately what we want. And they were very excited to hear us ordering something that wasn't on the menu, but they still had there we go very, they were very excited about this. Like,

29:24

oh, you know, okay, yes, yes, yes. We

Collin Funkhouser 29:28

were reading through things. And I was like, well, they don't have this version of it. But let's just see if they have a chicken sag, like, did you have chickens like wala spoke up? And they were like, Oh, they were like looking around? And they're like, yeah, we can we could do that for you. Absolutely. Like they were like happily writing our orders down and everything. And I also have to remind myself that just because they're a food truck doesn't mean that their prices are any less expensive than a brick and mortar restaurant. No, not necessary. rarely, but sometimes, but not all. I will say that they they did not have the kids order a Jenga tikka masala which is shrimping, and they did not have that. However, yeah. Most of the time all that they do, they don't even really season the shrimp they made they saute them, and then they add them to listed the sauce.

Brandon 30:20

Yes. So I bought

Collin Funkhouser 30:24

shrimp and sauteed them. And then we showed up and I was like, I just want you Tikka Masala sauce and some rice. And they were like, Absolutely. Here you go. And I was like, I didn't actually let me just buy sauce. But okay, we were all this food and it is pouring rain. No, like it's poor. So we run back to our car. We're sitting there. And after a while, like, the grandma comes out and she's like, I see her carrying these drinks to our car and I'm like, we didn't order drinks and we roll down the window. And she hands us to mango Lassie for the kids. She goes for the for the kids. They're like,

31:07

Oh, my gosh,

Collin Funkhouser 31:09

I'd love mega Lassie. I won't drink these I promise and we

Brandon 31:14

My son doesn't drink all of his immediately. Yeah. Urial Oh, what's

Collin Funkhouser 31:20

that over there? Like? Yes. So we're sitting in the car being pummeled by rain kids sipping mango Lassie, they come out with our order. And they have also thrown in. Like, oh, rice pudding. And nice. Oh, what else did they throw in another dessert like ice pudding? Absolutely love and this has been a drive me insane. I need to look up this word. Ah. And they and so they threw in two free desserts for us. What is oh yeah, the Gulag German the milk. Okay. Yes. With like this, like the Oh, gosh. Oh, these are so good. And I was like, you know, oh, my goodness, thank you so much. And she was like a joy. Thank you for coming. And I said, I said, Well, you know, in the rain right before his turn, I said, are you guys doing well, and she goes very slow. And I said is it the rain? And she goes, it hasn't stopped? She sighed fast. Food trucks are also kind of hard to entice people out to when it's pouring down rain for three weeks of your existence and tornado warnings are everywhere. But I was just you know, so we got home we unpacked it barely sat down and just devoured everything. And I was like, I'm gonna sell that because like, it's the one with the one restaurant that in town we're making are like that. We need an Indian restaurant like we need Yeah. In restaurant like, I don't need no feds. I don't need another Mexican restaurant. They're all delicious. I bet we've rented them all like, like, oh man, or we don't need another barbecue restaurant. Yeah. And you very

Brandon 33:07

quickly become oversaturated with like pizza places and barbecue restaurants. It's like I didn't care I really only like one pizza. I really good actually, truth be told since I've been starting making pizza at home. I don't order

Collin Funkhouser 33:23

pizza. Oh, shots fired. And you can control a lot of it. Yeah, well, and you're not

Brandon 33:32

bad. Yeah. Some people say like way overcharging for pizza is ridiculous. Like the ingredients for pizza are not like what do you guys, come on? Oh,

Collin Funkhouser 33:45

so we everything. And there's only a few things. There's a little bit of non leftover. And that was the other thing like we were ordering nine. And she got really excited because the menu was just like, garlic non plated on. And yeah. And we were talking about like I had a question to Megan after this was after we had ordered the thing that wasn't on the menu. And she started saying like, Oh, well, we can do like chicken nod. And we can do this other nod if you said if you need those. I was like, oh, not right now. But maybe next time I just come back I

Brandon 34:22

will need this affirmation. take

Collin Funkhouser 34:24

you up on that. That's like so like I took notes on the back of the menu and took it home of like, don't forget about this next. Oh, but it was so good. And everybody was really, really nice. And it's very excited to see them there. And it's one of those like, family owned businesses and restaurants that mom, dad, grandma, brother, like everybody's working in the restaurant, and it's just really cool. And I'm very thankful that we finally have it so we will have to patronize that

Brandon 34:56

a lot

Collin Funkhouser 34:58

to make it happen. flee help. No. Yeah, no be successful.

Brandon 35:01

Right? Yeah, that room that's that story reminds me that we like we they say, there's a Filipino food truck here now. And like the first time we ate there, it was like January that week that it was like, negative 20. And they were like, no, we'll be open seriously. And we're like, okay, we're going anyway. Oh, pork adobo, though, like, Oh, come on, like what you can? Yes. made a move where they're so good, but it's like, it's so cool to hear. Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, we

Collin Funkhouser 35:46

had our fill. And it was actually like, Oh, this is kind of, it's one of those days where it's, ah, kind of, it's warm, but the rain is cold. And so it actually is like, kind of like a cold. Not fun day. But now we are all filled with tikka masala. And it is very wonderful. is very happy about this. So, yeah, we were all all made, the better, thankfully. But oh, yeah. So got to do that to try a new place in town. And it made me very happy.

Brandon 36:24

That's great. That's exciting. out there. Yeah. Our food truck thing is getting ready to get started back up again. So we'll be going into that. It's more to I'm excited about that. See if there's any new ones out there. But the old ones are never good. Yeah, the only update I have on food front is apparently the Salvadori and bakery. Next Next weekend. So next weekend? They are they advertise that they're going to be selling pet pouces on Saturday. And I am going to break down their door.

36:58

Oh my god. Yeah.

Brandon 37:02

So see if we can make any time. Let's see if they are if they sell out like immediately. Yeah, see how that goes. But we'll see. So update incoming on that. See how that goes. And

Collin Funkhouser 37:21

yeah, that's good. That's good.

37:24

It's very good.

Collin Funkhouser 37:32

Yeah, well, when this actually really got me thinking about my what the topic that I had thought of the other day of the Towers of Silence, yes,

Brandon 37:43

the much anticipated well

Collin Funkhouser 37:48

I don't want to bring this into the amazing thing that I talked about with the basic food but as I was eating it, I was like, oh, oh, hey, I have a tie in to this topic now. Because this ah, because I came across this on the on the internet's the other other week and I was like, this is as one dies particularly for the one that just the massive impact that this had. So Zoroastrians on a Saturday, right? Yes. Okay. I'm familiar. So let's start with that. Okay, so came out of Iran. And they group settled and expanded into into India and brought their practices with them. When a Zoroastrian dies, they cannot bury them because they that contaminates the soil. Okay, and not burn them because this contaminates the fire element. They can't use any of these elements of that they believe are sacred because it it contaminates them and makes them bad because they believe as soon as you die, your your your body becomes contaminated and so it damage it hurts everything else. So the only way that they decided to get rid of your body was through a process that is known as Oh, what is its name? It is called X carnation, X carnation

Brandon 39:21

where he doesn't sound good.

Collin Funkhouser 39:26

So it starts off with just leaving your body exposed to the elements. But then they add a purifying element to this. And they developed over the centuries, a very close relationship with

Brandon 39:38

vultures. This is very interesting. Okay, so that's what I thought that's what I thought this is going okay. Yeah, right.

Collin Funkhouser 39:46

So what they do is they take the body and they take it to the they called Towers of Silence. That actually towers like this is a very like Western culture of like, Oh, they're ominous and scary and spooky. Kinda like me. Allen's right and they're very set off away from town. But that's where the buys are taken. And carrion birds take care of everything else. It was like extremely clean, extremely efficient with all this going on. Flash forward many 1000s of years. Okay, we're in. We're in Dubai. And there's this garden in the middle of the thriving Dubai metropolis where there is a tower, whereas our astronauts are still practicing this in modern day

Brandon 40:33

to buy. Oh, yes, that's a bit

Collin Funkhouser 40:37

more problematic. Yes. Because, because first off, high rises, okay. Yeah, rises, people started to see these things. But then people start to notice from these high rises that like,

Brandon 40:52

the bonds were there for like a long time.

Collin Funkhouser 40:55

And then they realized, hey, I don't see we see all these birds over there. But none of them are vultures.

Brandon 41:03

So like, what happened here? And they did

Collin Funkhouser 41:08

this nationwide survey. And the problem was, is that vultures were so numerous that nobody ever thought to, like, count them. And so when they finally did the survey, though, they were like, Oh, this is weird, because farmers out in the farmlands are having a hard time with their dead cows. Right. And they're dead livestock. They're not going anywhere. Because also Fulcher sir. Well, no, no, because all the vultures were gone. That's damaged. Because gates now we're like, oh, they they estimate that this is the fastest, almost extinction event that happened globally. They dropped 99% of their population over the course of five to 10 years. Whoa. And they were

Brandon 41:58

all in the city just eaten all the people they're like, anger over cows is or

Collin Funkhouser 42:02

anything? No. Okay, these are Astrid, how is a cow cows are a big part of the culture. And they are well protected and well loved. Meaning that they give them lots of medications, and antibiotics, things like this. And it turns out that one of those when consumed in high volumes, as Oh, I don't know, a vulture would Yeah.

Brandon 42:30

Gives them kidney failure, when they all die. Oh. And

Collin Funkhouser 42:36

this is it is so pervasive, and so cheap, that even that is given to some people as, as for treatments of certain things and ailments. And so it's everywhere in the society. And vultures, I didn't know this, lay one check, like every five years or so.

Brandon 42:59

That is a big problem. So like, growing,

Collin Funkhouser 43:02

the population ain't gonna happen really fast. And also,

Brandon 43:06

I do that. So what the problem would be like the California condor was yeah, so. So low. Yep. low

Collin Funkhouser 43:14

birth rates, high parental care, right. So survival of each individual offspring high.

Brandon 43:20

But it takes a long, yeah. And

Collin Funkhouser 43:24

so, but you can't control where the carrion birds are eating and where they're not eating and who's using these things and who's not using these things. Mean, while the Zoroastrians are like, this is our religion. We can't do anything but this this is how we get rid of bodies. And so it caused this massive upheaval for them to draw into question, basically, their entire existence. And as a religion, and as a as a group of what does this mean? How do we take care of this? They had all these contraptions of like, well, what if we just attract like other kinds of birds? Or what if we they actually thought about they actually thought about building massive cages around these areas to just keep the birds in there? The the vultures in there, right? Like, massive, massive, like multi multimillion dollar structures to just contain them over these things, but it's like, like a like a VM. I can write

Brandon 44:32

like a view all like that. Like I'm imagining. Okay, this is this is breaking with the seriousness of the topic. Oh, you're fine. But do you remember Jurassic Park? Three? Yes, of course. And the weather? Yes, absolutely. aviary. That's the territory, isn't it?

Collin Funkhouser 44:50

It's something like that. Only for vultures. But then people were like, well, yeah, but that's not how like vultures live like they don't live Given those things and you can't like, what are you going to have to do this, like a breeding population in there? Like that's not that's

Brandon 45:05

the kind to buy. Imagine the size of the aviary. Yeah, well, they

Collin Funkhouser 45:09

will just build it over this massive like, it's like 50 acres like Park Yeah, never in the middle there, but still a 50 acre aviary like

Brandon 45:18

so like, I may try trotline man, you never know.

Collin Funkhouser 45:22

So that was what people went with for a long time. But meanwhile, two bytes growing and people are seeing this thing from their high rises. The games aren't going anywhere, like quickly and so like, they're, they're like develop these, these like mirrors to like, speed up the process. But that doesn't work. And it's like really terrible and like, so people stop using these and it really is impacted the Zoroastrians like ability to carry out this way of life and it was this huge hot button topic of this outdated visit like like mid yoke terrible process and these backward ways and really through into this culture clash of, of societies of new and old and traditional and progressive ways of thinking in their society and how they were going to continue on living and what that would look like. And and it was it was it was a hot because people were giving their cows antibiotics to keep them alive longer. And the culture take them to the vultures died, Ultras couldn't carry out this x carnation with through through this process. And it was just as I dove into this and learn it was just like, wow, how could I just another example of how connected it's just like everything is and how how you don't ever really know. Like, as I'm injecting this cow, like the ramifications as this is going to have for millions of people and for generations. And generations. Yeah, because now they're trying to roll back the Gillette it was called like the jolis be tipsy. Oh, gosh, I'm really gonna know. Bugger this.

Brandon 47:17

That's right, like a very specific type of buzzard vulture pop. Yeah, this

Collin Funkhouser 47:21

vulture species they're trying to get and it's like, they are trying to rehabilitate or repopulate. Yeah, but, but again, it takes so long. And so this is a multi generational thing over humans to endeavor upon. And meanwhile, they're trying to do these now they're panicking because they're like, Well, we know of certain drugs that are terrible for the kidneys of these birds. But what other drugs are going to come down the line that we've had to test and like, have to figure out and like, it's just drawn into question. So like, pharmaceutical industry, and all of these aspects, that they're that they're still working through. And I just, I just as I read, look through this, it was like, wow, I that's cool. Talk about heated like, that's like, especially when you're drawing in like cultural and religion stuff. And now environmental and ecological ways of life. It's just like,

Brandon 48:19

that's Bessie. That's crazy. I, interestingly, here's the other part about this is extremely interesting to me, is that the Zoroastrians are now the second group of people that I have heard about before, that practice this form of burial. Really? Yeah. Tibetan Buddhists also do this. They have they call it Sky Burial. Right? Because like up on the Tibetan Plateau, up up in the Himalayan Mountains, there's no wood, right? Because traditionally, other Buddhist areas like Devi, like cremation and stuff, but like, when you're that high up in the mountains, there's not any wood. It's just like rock only. And they, they practice Sky Burial, or they have traditionally I don't know if it's still a common thing or not, but they do Sky Burial stuff to their right. It's like kind of like, because the Buddhist believed like, well, once this spirit has left the body, the body is like, useless. And so by giving it to, you know, the animals and stuff, they're like, helping with the lifecycle, right? And they're giving nutrients and sustaining the environment like they the other ecosystem, I guess, basically. And so that's not what's important to them, like the body is not important to the Buddhist, so they're just like, whatever. But they also practice Sky Burial where they will just take the bodies up, they just do it. It's like a mountain, right? They just go up to say Getting spot and then they will just leave the body there and then again carry on and things like this take care of the rest of it. So that's extraordinarily interesting to me that the two very different groups of people, I guess, I guess I should name like, practices very interesting. And

Collin Funkhouser 50:21

I should be more specific here. Technically it's the Parsi community. That is that is practicing this, but yeah, they are. They're the ones practicing it in India from the Zoroastrian tradition. So, yeah,

Brandon 50:35

well, I guess like, yeah, that according to this about the Buddha is one. It's Tibet, King Guy says one Inner Mongolia, Nepal, Bhutan, and parts of India. So there would be the crossover event. Right. Where those two cultures potentially intersect. And yeah, comparable to parts of the zone. Astria Bill writes. Yeah, very interesting. Yeah, that is very interesting. It's a, you know,

Collin Funkhouser 51:13

and it's part of those things of

Brandon 51:22

aye, aye, aye. Oh, sorry. You're good. Oh, that sounds like a lot. That's a lot of crossover. That's a wide area when I'm reading this. That's a very wide area. Where it is, again, most of those mountainy so like, it makes sense, right? Because like Inner Mongolia, desolate mountainy southern China mountainy. Tibet. mountainy Nepal, Bhutan. mountainy. India mountainy. That's very crazy. I wonder what I guess the reasoning is the difference part. This is comparable, but must just be the why. Yeah, no. Wrong button. Yeah, that's so weird. Okay, hold on I was just vamping. Yeah, it appears that there is some crossover events here. Oh, man also could also be related to more similar practices. There's also suspected Sky Burial evidence found at Gobekli Tebay. Which is kind of insane, because that was built 11,000 years ago. So that is a very, very old thing. Indeed. I don't know how you find evidence of Sky Burial because the whole point is to not leave evidence. Yes. But

53:25

maybe, I don't know what that evidence would be. Exactly. I would like to know what that is.

Collin Funkhouser 53:49

Okay, sometimes when dogs don't eat, it's stressful. So, anyway. So you know, or you know, where you have been? You have been Ross culturally. Yeah, Paris it comparing.

Brandon 54:06

It's very interesting. Yes, there. The the Buddhist version is a bit more involved and gruesome. So we'll leave out some of the details as a family. But it's very. It's very, like, it's just very interesting how that practice of apparently did you get the thing I said about Gobekli Tepe A? No. So the where we left off here is that this thing says that there is potentially evidence for this sort of burial practice, found at Gobekli Tepe. Now, I don't really know what sort of evidence you find on this, because the whole point is to have no evidence whatsoever. Oh, but if that's true, Gobekli Tepe A is like an 11,000 year old site in Turkey. So That's very strange. Wow. Yeah. potentially extremely ancient way to deal with things just anyway. Well, we'll just gonna. Well,

Collin Funkhouser 55:17

yeah. And that's again why this is so hard because you have coming in going. We've literally that we can trace this back right 11,000 years like, yeah, maybe well, maybe but yes, like, at least 1000s. Okay, once Yeah, but when we're talking about 1000s and 1000s of years here, it's like, yeah, like, this is why this kind of thing is just is wild to see. No, it's yeah, it's very. Anyway, I pretty cool. Yeah,

Brandon 55:44

I just when you started talking about that was like, Okay, this is wild, because I have heard of this, but in a completely different context. Yes. Oh, yeah. I know, that existed, like, the same idea. Basically, with you know, some modification and whatnot, is present in just like, a completely different thing. That's so that's so crazy.

Collin Funkhouser 56:13

Yeah, but seemingly arose in kind of different different societies and cultures, but like, but also, but

Brandon 56:21

there is an India crossover connection here. So potentially, it's actually a shared idea from somewhere else. And it is went in these different directions. Crazy. It's very interesting. Very interesting in the heat, as man. Wild.

Collin Funkhouser 56:43

So, yeah, I, that's, that's what I wanted to share and talk about was really, just like, because I like those. It's one of those stories of, of, you know, because I was thinking about like, oh, wow, like you hear about things about like this a lot. Like, you know, what, we had the brown pelicans and their eggs in and bald eagles, you know, from the shells being too thin and weak to do this from, from the pesticides, but like, to then ratchet up a whole other level.

Brandon 57:14

Like, oh, and also the, to the antibiotics in the cow causing renal failure and vultures. Yes, that's a very, yeah, like, okay,

Collin Funkhouser 57:24

but also, but also these, these, you know, we grew concerned about it in the United States when the bald eagle were like, oh, it's our national bird. Like, we're kind of concerned now. But like, Yeah, but

Brandon 57:35

this vulture is apparently a central pillar in religious belief. Yes. Which is like, great, crazy.

Collin Funkhouser 57:46

And then, because the vultures weren't doing the what, what they had done for centuries, it thrust this small religious community the Parsi into the modern globe, in the modern context, in the modern eyes, because now their practices were impacting people around them, because the birds weren't there to take care of it. It was just so many interconnected factors of like, right, like this, again, like how connected things are, and how quickly is this like, Man that could have got out of control fast?

Brandon 58:17

Wow. Yeah, well, and it shows you like just how quickly these things do collapse. Right? Like, you know, this is just like another example. But like, you know, they like that was the, the passenger pigeon or whatever, right? Like, you know, 70 bazillion pigeons. No pigeons, right. That's like, it's like, just like that. It's just gone like that, you know? Because when you're like, Oh, you take it for granted. Like, oh, it's so numerous. Oh, I see him all the time. Oh, they're everywhere. I haven't seen them in a while. I wonder where they went? Oh, no. Right. Like, there's just like vast instability, right? It can just come from these things. You know, it's just like when you know, you stop paying attention not paying attention. Oh, no. Everything's gone wrong. Like. Yeah, while it's all downhill. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, that was,

Collin Funkhouser 59:20

I don't know if that was like, ASIC. This is just, it's just wild to think about like, this is so it is wild. You're correct. That's why I wanted to share it.

Brandon 59:33

Well, good job. Thanks. I've been waiting. I didn't purposely did not do any research because you just been teasing. And I was like, Okay, I must. I must know. I didn't want to spoil myself here. Oh, the thing with the show of not actually knowing what's happening at any given moment.

Collin Funkhouser 59:51

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I yeah, I mean, I was I was sideswiped by the Parsi community and everything going on here and Sky Burial and

Brandon 1:00:02

pretty wild. How it abiotic. So yeah,

Collin Funkhouser 1:00:07

that's, that's my updated all that to say that the, the taste of Indian food that we had was delicious. Something

Brandon 1:00:13

else. I have a slightly related note that I've been sitting on for a little bit and I thought it was a good time just busted out here. This is also an update of sorts. Right? You remember, several, a long time ago, we did briefly discuss Ranga Tang behavior in the wild. Yes. Remember this? You're talking about how certain orangutangs in different areas use different tools and they have like other different orangutangs cultures? Apparently. Yes, yes. Right. Well, this article that I read recently, within the last few weeks, because in Sumatra, right, an adult male Ranga Tang has been seen medicating himself. With what? Yeah, so he has, he had this big wound on his face. And they, they watched Him like eating these plants. And they're like, that's weird. That's not a typical part of their diet. But these plants are known to have like, painkilling properties, but, and so he is actually chewing them, chewing them up into a poultice and rubbing it on his face. Right. While it was making a poultice out of this planet, it is a plant that like locals and like scientists and stuff like No, has like pink pain killing properties. And so he has this big he has his wound thing under his right eye. And he was like observed, like eating these plants or like messing with these plants. And they were like, That's kind of weird. They don't eat those. These are not a part of their diet. Yeah. And he was actually observed making a paste and applying it to his face. Oh, that's wild. Yeah. Yes. He's making he was like making a poultice out of these out of these different types of these leaves here. Oh, okay. Oh, girl. raucous Yeah. Yeah. Oh, and he's in his

Collin Funkhouser 1:02:26

30s as well. So he's prime wise. He's

Brandon 1:02:29

wise. He's doing great stuff. Right. It's also weird. The data wrangling is as old as us. Oh, that's weird. That

Collin Funkhouser 1:02:37

you mean as young as us? Oh, yeah.

Brandon 1:02:41

It's brighter the same ages as Iranian. That's weird. Yes. But also, yeah. Yeah. Because we talked before about they, some of them use tools. And some of them do things. Like, you know, they use different tools because they kind of have slightly different diets based on their region. And so they do different stuff. And they lay where leaves his hats when it's rainy. And like they do all this like very interesting thing, but this dude is apparently making medicine for his little eye wound he's got there. That's wild.

Collin Funkhouser 1:03:16

Okay, that's super cool. Yeah, I have a facial wound with a biologically active plan to play a male. sumatran orangutan. Yeah. It's a wicked wound too. Yeah, I don't. Yeah,

Brandon 1:03:29

who knows how bad Clegg. And yeah, but he's just like rubbing it on the wounds. But that's this. That's, that's really cool. That's just really interesting to me that that is a thing, right? Now, so there's a lot of other interesting implications here, sort of like Sky Burial. Like, where did it come from? How did the different people learn about it? Like, is it possible that like, very early human people, watched animals do stuff are like, Hey, I'm gonna do that to you. And then like, Oh, hey, cool. It does work. And then like, like, shared knowledge. really long way. Right? Potentially, like cross species. Right? And, and, you know, there's always things to learn from other people slash animals slash orangutans slash. But the implications of that are also interesting, right? Like, did early humans, like watch something do that and be like, Hey, I wonder if I can do that, too. Yes, I can. Yes, right. And then it's just something that you know how to do and you lose the ability to figure out where it came from. Right. So like, Siberia, where do you start? No one knows what they do it.

Collin Funkhouser 1:04:48

Ah, yeah. And that could have that. Why did we do it? We don't know. But we do. Yeah. And sometimes that's just really for the Yeah, it's like, oh, well, this is just what it like, oh, well, I mean, it drops into like questions that like, well, but what does it mean to be human? Right? Because if we like, oh, no, what this is what we do and blah, blah, it's like, yeah, but if if somebody from somebody from somebody picked up something from something else, and now watched it,

Brandon 1:05:19

orangutangs do it. And that's why you know how to do it. Right isn't really definitional anymore. Yeah, like, definitely wasn't mean, like, it was very interesting, very wise that it was really cool that he was observed actually, like self medicating a little bit. So that was really cool. I really need to well, and call back to our weird conversation about renting habits. So it's actually a tie in, and a reference to an old show that, so look at that.

Collin Funkhouser 1:05:50

And a great reminder, folks, for something that I'm extremely passionate about, of like, basic science is, yeah, still fundamental like, like, the the fact that many people poopoo of the, oh, I'm going to go sit in the woods and observe and like, it's just like, I think about this a lot for our kids, like, I kind of just want them to be really good naturalists of like, know things, understand the world, know the timing of seasons, and what that means and how things relate to another. Like, that's really important for me to like to get and make sure that they understand. And like, that kind of science is so fundamental and basic that we forget that it's important, and that we get caught up in like, oh, genes and genetic mutations and like doing these therapies, and like, oh, we'll just sequence everything. And that was our understand. And like, that's where we're going. It's like, these people were literally sitting in the woods with a notebook and binoculars. And when he what's he doing? Yeah, write that down. And then take the fact that we don't it's reminder of like, the fact that we don't even know how long some species live, like, we just have no idea. And like we don't we don't know why they do things or where things come from. So you don't just observe things, people and don't let any genomic basis to tell you that your work is not ridiculous.

Brandon 1:07:18

Well, we I talked about at the beginning of the year, right, when we're talking about like the scientific method and things like this, and just sort of like that, I really tried to distill it down. And I'm like, listen, a lot of really important science breaks down to looking at stuff. Yeah. Right. And what type of science you're doing, basically, depends on what are you looking at? Right? Like, it's kind of like, yeah, that's, that's the gist of everything. Like, you just have to look at it. You have to observe it. That's it. Like, and what you're looking at, dictates the field of science that you're in. Right? Yep. Your land and rock your geologist, if you're looking at the atmosphere. You're climatologist, right? If you're looking at a plant, you're a botanist, right? It's just like,

Collin Funkhouser 1:08:07

No, I remember at my undergrad like, this is really what shaped that of there was a professor there who all he did was like, age studies on a handful of different species of fish, and like, how long they lived, and how fast they grew, in certain circumstances, and across time, and that's what he did. And what I remember at the time being like, oh, that's quaint, right? Like, oh, but then the more I was like, oh, no, that's really fundamental. Like, if you don't know how long something lives, like, there's a lot of other basic questions that we don't understand of like how aging works and like, all of this stuff. And it really made me like, ask to understand,

Brandon 1:08:50

like, the lifecycle to like, Well, how long like, because some things are along like forever, like filters, apparently. And then. Bailey egg, right? Yeah. So like, the time to, like sexual maturation is like very long. There's certain species of fish do this too, right. Like they're like sturgeon, right? They're like, alive for like, 50 years. And then they become reproductively active. Whoa, okay.

Collin Funkhouser 1:09:17

Hold on a minute here. This changes everything about our introductory programs, like oh, yeah, reset. Oh, tations.

Brandon 1:09:27

Yeah, yeah. So like other fish that are like, Oh, I can like a rabbit. Right. Like I can breed now. No, no, no, no, that's not how it works.

Collin Funkhouser 1:09:38

Or set your grandkid up for success here, buddy. Because yeah, exactly. And no, I just like, some of them. I turned into that guy. Were like, Oh, that's cool. You're studying the genes of the fish. Do you know how long it lives? Oh, no. Okay, no. Okay. Anyway, Cool. Cool. Well, you go back to your gene stuff. That's right. I'm not saying it's not important, but like, the hierarchy of people like, Oh, I'm a, I do do genes and sequencing, you only observe and it's like, yeah, anyway,

Brandon 1:10:13

you have to look at the genes serving, you're just observing something small. So doing, right, we just need like an electron microscope to see it. It really was

Collin Funkhouser 1:10:23

like, a fight like a clear delineation. And this is this is this is just why these niches work because like, the between like it was going through school, like they were the ecologists, the applied biologists, the management side, and the genomic tests, and those, like nary the twain saw talk to one another, like, like, you would go, and you would sit to people who were just in, they were just doing gene sequencing and everything. And they were looking purely about, like, the connection between this one region to another region, and things like that. And when you would say, okay, cool. How does that impact the species? You know, they'd look at you like, What a ridiculous question like,