you missed the point
In a peek behind the curtain, we realized we needed to record like ASAP. In the professionalism that you have come to expect, a show is produced and put on. Brandon has observed things. Collin asks to stop assuming things. The main topic? We discuss ‘The Line’ and why it’s a ridiculous idea.
Soft target DMV
Car registration
Training staff - fun things
Stop assuming things
Brandon was observed
Assuming his observation was fine
Seismograph
Super planned cities - kind of soviet
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SPEAKERS
Collin, Brandon
Collin 00:05
Welcome to Oh, brother, a podcast of three brothers. Trying to figure it all out through hosts, Brandon, Colin, and Aaron. On this week's show, you missed the point. Clicking King opening Oh my goodness. Hello,
Brandon 00:26
boy
00:30
got six open
Brandon 00:34
yes listeners for your behind the curtain section this week. The reason Colin is frantically opening random things and trying to get his life together, because we decided to record about 45 minutes ago because this is the week of Thanksgiving. And he thinks we both sort of realized, wait a minute is a win, win here. We do things this week. So this is
Collin 01:00
why we realized quickly we could not do many things.
Brandon 01:06
And so here we are.
Collin 01:11
And I'm all I'm all thrown off because also I don't did I take notes last time because I don't see any notes for our last retiree recorded I'm really confused.
Brandon 01:21
Yeah.
01:24
fairly certain. Hara I don't Oh, my gosh. Yeah. Hey, did hear
Collin 01:31
it. It's It's fine. It's fine. I sit down to high school down. Far. Yes, it did. Yeah. Put it here. There we go. 65. Episode way. Fine.
Brandon 01:41
That's where biting.
01:47
Yes. Yes. So
Collin 01:49
yeah. Little little peek. peek behind the kimono or whatever that's called. We are recording week of Thanksgiving prior to Thanksgiving.
Brandon 02:00
So with no notice whatsoever,
Collin 02:02
no notice whatsoever. It'd be fine. Okay. This is you know, this is what artists do. They work under pressure.
02:11
They do stuff and things.
Brandon 02:15
And since we rarely have a plan anyway. It really is no different than normal. Right. So like
Collin 02:25
are you saying it doesn't technically really matter when we record?
Brandon 02:30
No. Oh, that I really do. We have plan. That's shocking. We can plan sometimes. Sometimes there is plan.
02:40
Yeah. So you know, it's fine. No.
Collin 02:43
Well, this past week, I ventured to the DMV to pay taxes on a vehicle. I purchased.
02:50
Yeah, that was in last week's episode. We talked about that. Yeah. And
Collin 02:55
then I had to as reamping for the screen it Yeah. just recapping and then I had to renew
03:03
the
03:05
Jeep
Collin 03:06
license plate stration which is fine. I have I have not once ever been able to use
03:14
the
Collin 03:19
online thing, the online thing. Really? Yes. And here's, here's the reason why when we registered for
03:28
week registered for this.
03:32
I for some reason,
Collin 03:36
they put both Megan's and my name on it. And it is separated by an ampersand. Oh,
03:46
so and there are middle initials. And
Brandon 03:53
so you never type in the correct name.
Collin 03:55
I can never type in the correct name. I have always gotten it wrong. That locks me out. And it's yes, go call for Eddie. You're You're a hacker.
Brandon 04:04
I am a hacker Russian bots trying to register a vehicle
Collin 04:08
exactly in Missouri because that's how they get ya. That's true.
04:13
Gotcha. And so I actually
Brandon 04:19
listened lots of things are possible since Ilan fired the entire Twitter staff so
Collin 04:24
and you know that they're going straight for the small town DMVs that's why that's obviously soft targets. Yeah. I so I called Oh, and here's the other thing is, I never keep my paid property tax receipt in a place where I can remember it ever. Obviously not. No one would ever keep those with their other tax documents. No, that would be a
04:54
thing no one would do.
Collin 04:56
So I don't ever keep them anywhere. I have just always gotten back to the county clerk to have them issue me a new one. When I need it well, because also, in order to access that I have to enter the information exactly the same to match the count anyway, so I just never do this. And I've actually been going to the county clerk to get a copy of pay property taxes and then driving to the DMV and standing in line
Brandon 05:25
do you are the exact reason the DMV line is so long all the time? People without the right paperwork? It's all messed up. Oh, my gosh.
Collin 05:34
So this year, what I did was I asked the very, very kind of county clerk to please help me because I had, I was like, Look, I have tried this every year, every time it locks me out, and then I can't do anything I have to go in person anyway. What how should I actually write us? And she said, exactly as it appears. And what I have not been doing was writing, last name, comma, my name, middle initial ampersand Megan's name, middle initial, and no space. I've been trying to put it all like, first name, middle initial last name, because that's not how official documents function. But that's not how it that's not how it appears on the document. And so I was like, You have changed my world. So, ladies and gentlemen, four years into living in Missouri, I have been officially able to register that or update whatever. The license plate for both of our vehicle.
Brandon 06:49
Can congratulations. Wouldn't the only problem the only time we haven't been able to do it in the last four years, or however long they've been doing this is they changed the license plate, but two years ago, and so like you couldn't do any of it because you had to go get get the new new license plate. So we had to go in and they're like, here. All right. Sweet. Bye.
Collin 07:19
No, I, I was like, Oh, this is incredibly easy. Wow.
07:26
So I
Collin 07:28
will say that's nice. Texas actually went I don't know if this is again, I'm still I all of this stuff happens on such an irregular enough frequency that I have no memory of what happened and how it happened last time. Other than that, right, like it's one of those kinds of things. Well, I just need to videotape or screen record myself doing it and say that in a file.
Brandon 07:50
You won't remember what you named it?
Collin 07:51
No, no. Calendar event with a link to the same. Doc. Yeah, the can it's fine. But in in Texas, when we were there, you could when you had to go get the car inspected, all that was handled digitally as well. So that once they the inspector ran their inspector, the thingamabob you could go and go online and register even if you needed the inspection paperwork, because they could pull from to see that it was had been inspected. Because everybody uploaded it to a central database. And I was like, that was pretty slick. So you really could go get inspected and you wouldn't have to talk to another soul. Because they all uploaded it to the same didn't matter where you got the inspection. They all put it in the same place. And then they could pull from that information
08:46
to to make sure everything was kosher, which I thought was cool. Was really handy. Because that way not to mess with it too much. So it's very nice.
09:04
I, yeah, other than that, been spent the weekends doing more job shadowing with staff members. And
09:17
in an interesting and interesting
Brandon 09:22
ran into, it's very ominous.
Collin 09:25
It's one of those things of I write instructions, right I have, I have mini an SOP with videos of me, talking through them and scrolling through pages and highlighting things and talking about how it's done. I have them listen to the podcasts that Meghan and I produce about certain topics. We'd have them watch YouTube videos and things like that, and then I shadow them in person. And then that's where you really see the
09:56
oh, that's how you interpreted that. That's interest thing,
Collin 10:01
such as one that I saw, and I just I hurt me is that, okay? I have a whole podcast, I have a whole section of our SOPs about taking photos, right? Photos, it's one of the things people don't really care about. But like, we don't send blurry photos, we don't send dark photos, we don't serve, you know, angry looking photos or sad looking photos, like there's a whole process. And one of the things that I tell people is, you know, to get down on their level, and you can take your photo, and when you're walking a dog, get the have your two points of contact. So you have the wrist strap around your wrist on one hand, you pull with your other hand on the leash to pull the dog towards you, like you're gonna put it in a heel. And then you when you're the the hand that's not holding the leash. You take your phone, you've been down and you take a side profile photo
10:54
of the dog walking super cute photos, right? So I
Collin 10:59
kept looking at these photos going like, this is really these are blurry. Why are these so blurry? Like it's, it's, you know, it's in the afternoon, but it's not as much light as early you know, in the mornings are new, but this is like 4444 o'clock. Why is it?
Brandon 11:15
I have a guess? And I guess Sure, it's because your instructions said?
11:20
Like the dog is walking. And they were taking you while the dog was walking?
Collin 11:27
No god. Okay, because I take photos with the dog walking, right. And what they were doing is they were using the selfie camera on their phone and holding it down so that they could see the photo of the dog
11:47
and then take a photo.
Collin 11:50
All this makes sense. Makes total sense. It's wrong. And yeah, never. yourself. Makoto. It makes sense. I saw that. And I was like, Oh, I see. So now I have to do new instructions of like, never use your selfie camera. Ever, ever. No, there's no reason to yourself camera unless you are outside. And one o'clock on a bright sunny afternoon, taking a selfie with the dog. Otherwise, this this, this, this camera is broken to you, you should never use it.
12:26
Because most people don't
12:28
know how to position their phone blindly with the back camera and take a good photo. That's a something you kind of learn. So now I've got to talk about that. But I've watched people do this over this weekend, like four times. And I was just like, Oh, everybody uses their selfie camera for everything. That's okay, I have I have some things to change quite a bit.
Collin 12:58
You know, the other one is getting people us to kind of walking with their head on a swivel. You know, I'm not saying we have to be Greenbrae alert at all times ready to be ambushed by, you know, Predator drones from the sky. But we do need to not just stare at our shoelaces as we walk for minutes on end. That's not safe. Yeah, that's that's just good advice.
Brandon 13:25
In general.
Collin 13:27
Right. Yeah. So I'm watching people in their operating and how they're processing stuff is. That's why Shadowing is so important.
13:42
To get people thinking differently.
Collin 13:46
And I'm sure some sometimes it comes across as, as us being, you know, anal retentive about some of these some of these topics, and why does it matter? Why would you care kind of stuff. But it's like, you know that I try to explain the reasons. I'm not just like you're doing it wrong, as though is what I really want to say.
Brandon 14:11
What I really want to say as you're doing it wrong
Collin 14:20
I try and you know, explain to them like this is safety. This is so you can react. This is all part of defensive dog handling, and being aware of our surroundings. So I did the data of dad ever did this to you while you're driving. He'd be like, What color was that truck that past you? Or what were the last like license plates? No numbers on the plate kind of stuff. And most of the time I was like, I have no idea what I don't remember. Okay. So I was doing this while we were walking of going. Like what color were the shoes on that person jogging. How many dogs are in that yard we just passed, trying to get people to get their head up and be constantly moving in looking around. Because otherwise,
15:10
that was you do get very
Collin 15:12
just focus on my feet focus on the dog. And that's the other part of just, it is important to focus on the dog, obviously. And I'm glad that they are so attentive to the dog. But also, there's many other things after
15:28
that we need to
15:31
be a little bit more aware of well,
Brandon 15:34
and it's not just for like, so in this instance, it's definitely not just for their own personal safety, right? It is for the safety of the dog. It's not yours that you're walking around. So like, You got to be looking around for like, are there other dogs off leash here? Are there like that kind of stuff, too? Yeah, that is important information that you need. When you have a dog that's walking through thing you need to be looking out for hazards. How will the dog react to this? Is the dog going to like chase this thing? Is this thing going to try to chase the dog? Like what's what, what other kinds of stuff are going on there? I think that would be the more important thing. Yeah. I mean, not more important than your own personal safety, obviously. But like, but also in regards to being a dog walker. Right? That would be a very
Collin 16:21
first Yeah, it's personal and pet safety all in one. And the great thing is, is that simple actions, take take care of both things. Or like, what are their things? When you when you're staring just at your feet, you're not even staring six feet in front of you. So you're not you miss the broken glass until your walk out? Yeah, right. Yeah, miss the candy that now the dog is chewing on. And trying to get people away from because part of this is just the complacent mindset that most dog owners have because they're they know their dog. And they are at their very blase about their own
16:59
pets in a lot of cases, and
Collin 17:03
trying to ingrain in these people in people's brains of like, you don't know this pet, you will care for this pet for entire year and you will still not know this pet. And we have to treat every pet like it's a flight risk. Like the worst thing could happen in a moment's notice. Because if we don't because it can, it can. Because that's the thing of like, Why do I insist and yell at you whenever you don't have two points of contact on a leash? Because shirt this little three, you know, this seven pound Yorkie it's not going to be ripping out of anything out of your hand. But if you don't build the
Brandon 17:41
order, you're gonna walk later. Yes, yeah. If you don't practice
Collin 17:45
this, now with the good dog, when you go to the dog, it's a little bit more difficult. You're going to be completely out of your depth. And when you walk
Brandon 17:54
in the Great Dane. Yeah, right. It's gonna be it's incredibly
Collin 17:57
dangerous to switch habits, depending on our perception of what's going on. Right? Because Because you will miss judge, you will have going I'm in a safe situation now. Nope, I'm not nevermind, dog is running away from me. Whatever it is just go, I'm going to answer a simple thing to hands on the leash at all times. Regardless of how friendly or not pulling the dog is, just that way, you never have to remember to do it. Because what happens is, is you get into a rash of really good dogs, really wonderful dogs that would walk right beside you even though you would drop the leash and tell them to run away. And then you just forget about it, and it doesn't become part of your habit. And then you get a rash of dogs that will rip out your sockets at a moment's notice. And you're unprepared for that.
Brandon 18:48
Yeah, exactly.
Collin 18:52
So that takes a mind shift change too. And the biggest, the most damaged.
18:59
What, sorry,
Collin 19:01
the one that I see. That happens a lot of you're walking a dog and people are staring at their feet and the dog stops and smell something the person keeps walking and then yanks the dog to keep walking with them.
Brandon 19:17
I see this that's no good.
Collin 19:19
No, no, this is very bad. A it's a great way to pull a harness or leash or a collar off of a dog if it's poorly fitting.
19:30
Be optically This
Collin 19:33
looks really bad for neighbors to see you just absent bindingly tugging on a dog that's now out of your sight. And just bear with the doctor run away. Or you don't know if the dog eating something. Is it trying to poop? Is it trying to pee? Is it just smelling like you're completely unaware of what the dog is actively doing? And
Brandon 19:55
yet it's real awkward when the dog is like trying to poop right like toppled. over and because you're not paying attention to what's happening.
Collin 20:01
Yeah, and you just keep walking in, and now it's pooping, and it's all over
20:05
the place. Yes. So it's,
Collin 20:09
but it's such a habit that dog owners have of dog goes out of my sight, I just tuck it along behind me, and it will follow me. It's real bad habit that most dog owners have, and trying to, again, break people of this and go. I almost I don't want to even say like, I don't care what you do with your dog, because I'm also trying, I'm almost I'm to the point of like, Look, don't do this with your dog either.
Brandon 20:36
I mean, yeah, like, No, I mean, that's what I used to do that that happened. Chuck would do that sometimes. Right? Because like,
20:43
his was always like, going to the bathroom. Like,
Brandon 20:48
he would just go go. And if you weren't paying attention, he would just like and hear and like, stop. Like, just look, I'm done. This is where I'm going. Like, you know what I mean? Like, sniff around and like, try to find a place to go most the time. He would just be like, walk, walk, walk, walk, walk,
21:02
walk, walk, stop.
Brandon 21:04
Like, oh, oh, so you had to pay attention to him? Because he would just stop right there didn't matter. Middle the road? Yeah, right. car coming. He'd be like, I'm pooping like, No, buddy. That's how this works. Like,
Collin 21:19
if you're not paying attention, you yank that leash over. And now you have a dog without a collar in the middle of the road with a car coming. Right? Exactly. Exactly.
Brandon 21:30
That times
Collin 21:32
that. So I have to teach people like when that dog. First off, you should never have a dog that's that far away from you where you don't see them stop. Like, you need to be attentive enough. Oh,
21:41
yeah. Then
Collin 21:44
secondly, when they,
Brandon 21:46
he was very slow. And so he would be behind you. Sometimes
Collin 21:48
you'd be plotting, right? It's fine. He's plotting. But to be attentive, when they do stop, stop with them, and go walk over to their side, right, go stand right by them. And that way, you can pull up on the collar or up on the leash and move their head away. Because otherwise, that's a much more effective way of getting them away from the thing that they're engaged in. And usually by standing right next to them, you break their attention anyway, they focus on you, it's easier to engage, and maybe you'll reach out and grab them or it's just yeah, a much safer position to be than six feet away pulling on this dog that stubbornly smelling something on the ground and then grabs the dead carcass of the raccoon or whatever, and starts to
22:38
stop. So,
Collin 22:40
but it's worth it. And I understand it's really weird, because that's what I think about and trying to impress upon people like this is why we do this. I had somebody I was ordering a coffee, and dropping off some stuff for the little coffee shop that we kind of supply poop bag holders and tennis balls to he was like, Oh, are you with the company the talking about? Yes, yeah, I
Brandon 23:03
am the role. You're talking to the company. Just even just asking questions.
23:17
Oh,
Brandon 23:18
geez. Got a very good Jesse Ventura impression. You gotta back. Let me tell you something, Gabriella.
Collin 23:30
Oh, I? I was like, Yes. And I said, Yes, actually, hiring people and blah, blah, blah. And they said, Oh, well, what kind of like, you know, training can't be all that hard. And I just started walking through a typical visit. He was like, oh, nevermind. That's because I think I'll just stick to making coffee. I said,
Brandon 23:54
more. It's not that much more complicated than making some of those coffees of people ordering coffee. Right. Like, yeah, detail oriented? 1000. Yeah, it's just a detail are kind of saying like, that same process, but same theme, right, exactly theme of going to learn the steps and then follow steps to
Collin 24:13
learn the steps and then be equipped with the skills to complete them.
24:16
That's exactly
Collin 24:21
that's exactly what it is. And so part of that I recognize is, part of that is us, equipping them with the skills. That's step one, right? And now giving them putting it in context of the steps. Now that's that's the other part is now applying those skills. And that that does take time. Does that is a process and we understand that? It's just you know, what we do is constantly in flux and obviously depends on who we get in and experience and we have one one person who comes with came in, and she was a surveyor and landed title inspector previous jobs. So details are her jam. Right? Got it? Yeah, it was like, okay, cool, you'll pay attention. This is wonderful. And so it's it's an interesting blend, because we need people
25:26
who are
Collin 25:29
extremely task oriented and self sufficient. I don't know if we've talked about this before, but how, like, I need task oriented, self sufficient people, which is exactly the wrong kind of people to work on a team and openly communicate true and flexible when things change. So that's the other that's that's another component of this as trying to now foster a, an atmosphere where they can and will openly communicate about things that they're seeing and experiencing struggles that they're having or questions that they have, and letting other people know about things that they encounter. Because that's not something that usually like task oriented, independent people do, where they focus on my work here and now and I'm going to do it. Well, I'm going to do it. Excellent. And we have to come alongside them and go add to tell other people about something. Talk to others.
26:38
Oh, yeah, yeah. Well, glad it's been going excitingly. Yeah, not boringly.
Collin 26:46
Right now, we do have quite a busy week ahead, obviously. Yeah, I
Brandon 26:54
couldn't imagine we're.
26:57
I.
26:58
Yeah,
Collin 26:59
I alone. Have 13 visits on Saturday.
Brandon 27:10
Holy cow. Uh huh.
Collin 27:13
Yes, that's just me.
27:17
So, I'll be fine. be fine.
Brandon 27:20
I mean, I mean, yes, but be very busy, stressful.
Collin 27:25
Yes. But then it immediately dies down on Sunday. That's the other thing that's good. Like you like
Brandon 27:31
you can like counting down to.
Collin 27:35
Yeah, now I'm not doing all those visits alone. I am shadowing several staff members on visits they haven't done before, but I will be personally attending 13th We go from almost 30 on Saturday to like 11 on Sunday, so
Brandon 27:52
it's very nice. Like suffocating.
Collin 27:56
Right? Yes. And then everything else just kind of drops off from there. So it's, uh, yeah, then we roll into December. So anyway, it's been eye opening, as always, you know, dealing with people fun stuff in trying to gauge what motivates people to have what they need to hear how it needs to be said, This is odd management. 101 is boring. I mean, yeah. Who have been doing this for years and years and years. But it's just another thing of going, Oh, I set that too harshly. I probably need to this person, but the another person. It's like, you can say Yeah, that wasn't very good. And they go, No, you're totally right. Versus if I say that wasn't very good. Some staff would be like, Yeah, they'd be sad for many days. So I have to be careful
Brandon 29:00
just don't do so I got an email this morning. Oh, right. I love this. Okay, so this was this was just one of those like, my they do this all the time in school, and it's just the most annoying thing in the history of the world. And it was just like, just a reminder to everyone, contract hours are here to here. So you know, I know it's getting tough this this time of year worth schedules are hectic. But if you're, you know if we've noticed that you're not meaning these contract hours The administrator will be by to see you by as a person who this does not apply to at all right? Like if you're leaving early or whatever, you're going to be late. Make sure you contact your building administrator like as a person to whom this does not apply. Like it's just annoying. This is a all staff email. Right? Like, why are you first of all? Why are you calling out like two people? Staff email?
30:12
That's pretty.
Brandon 30:14
Not cool, right? Like, that's because I'm sure
30:17
everybody knows what, you know those kinds of people? Yeah,
Brandon 30:23
like, that person's different out, like five minutes early, oh man, like,
30:27
you know, whatever. But like, that's not an
Brandon 30:30
email that needs to go to everybody. That's just so annoying. Yeah,
Collin 30:36
it is. And I understand I understand the difficulty of like, you can try and backtrack there and go where did the communication fall down? Did somebody just say, send out this email? Or to somebody along that chain? No, the two people that this needs to go to, but made this decision so that they don't feel singled out by direct email to them personally, in their inbox? Like I don't, I can never tell in those situations of like, did this was this just a concern somebody had? So somebody added, you know, did an add everyone? Or was this a conscious effort to avoid making somebody feel singled out?
31:20
And and hurt their feelings?
Brandon 31:24
Well, this is where it's hard to tell. And sometimes it's like, it starts out as the second one. Right? But it's executed so poorly, that it's just like, it comes across as y'all are doing bad. What do you do it? Like? That's what it comes across as right when it's executed poorly? Yeah. In this situation? So I imagine it came from a place of the second one of like, just making sure everyone's on the same page and blah, blah. But the execution was so bad, that it came across if everyone is doing a terrible job. Sure. And
32:01
yeah. So if you Yeah,
Collin 32:08
and I definitely have had that feeling of, you know, can we bring on we've had to bring on quite a few new staff. Because we turnover, we have a core group of people who have been with us for several months, you know, coming up on six months
32:22
now. And
Collin 32:25
I should probably reach out to them about that. And just ask, like, do you feel like you are getting enough attention? Because with the new staff, like, oh, man, do we say a lot of the same stuff? over again? Yeah. Like, every time well, and
Brandon 32:43
if you've been there for six months and been through, like,
32:46
so much new staff, like, how are you feeling? Are you like, bro, stop?
Collin 32:51
Yeah, do I need to because, you know, I, what we do is we have weekly meetings where everybody can, should attend. And then we record those, and we send them out. So there are times where the people who are present, like, I'm not talking to them, and I just kind of phrase it as like, you know, for everybody. But for those who are new, there's some information here, XYZ. But other times, it's like, well, this is good for everybody to remember, like, always check your shoes before you come in from the backyard. So you don't smear poop everywhere. And
Brandon 33:27
that's the other hard part too. Right? Like, how do you balance?
33:31
The I've said this a whole bunch with?
Brandon 33:37
I haven't said this enough recently, right? That's the other hard information. Like we have that problem at school, right? Because we have so few chances to have like, big meetings with people, right? Like, but like all staff, right? Most of them are like small group, whatever, which is fine, I'm sure. But like, the big ol staff ones, like a lot of the big important stuff. A lot of times everybody just sort of assumes that everybody knows what's happening. Like, when you have like, so many new teachers, or other new staff, yeah, right. And you just sort of like carry on, like, everybody knows what's going on. Like maybe we talked about this two years ago. But since then, we've had a lot of new people that have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, right?
34:31
These are assumptions that get made in my life. So like it's just that ya know, and yeah, we have
Collin 34:40
naturally I have created some checklists, knowing like, every time like these are the eleventeen steps that I have learnt every time we onboard somebody and have like, everything from when the ordering ordering the T shirt and hat to walking through certain protocols and things like that, to it up into including getting their feedback or reminders where it's like, and I'm adding those a lot more of like, oh, I seem to always remind new staff about XYZ. Okay, I need to make sure I include that in the new staff onboarding process so that I don't have to overburden existing staff with finding them on on particular staff. And trying to have more, one on ones with him. Because that, but that is hard. I understand. Yeah, it's real hard. Like, it's not, you get to a point where you have so many staff where it's like, if I did one on ones, all I would do is
35:47
Yeah. Yes.
Brandon 35:52
But mine is allegedly tomorrow, we'll see.
Collin 35:55
Oh, allegedly. My formal observation
35:59
was last week,
Collin 36:00
or how was it to be formally observed?
Brandon 36:04
I mean, my activity that we were doing ended up in the newsletters, so I'm assuming it went well, snap. Oh, five, we call that a humble brag. So I'm assuming it was fine. Like one of the things I got the meeting tomorrow is to hear the feedback from the thing that was last week, right? It was like button Thursday, maybe. And so I have meaning tomorrow is like a short one with just with the principle about
36:33
like, feedback, go over the checklist, ething or whatever. But
Brandon 36:39
yeah, my name is Matt. I was in the newsletter, we built a seismometer seismograph excuse me, this is
36:48
what was that? What what went into that?
Brandon 36:51
It was a marker on a pendulum, but we did.
Collin 36:56
Fine. And then did you have people like running and jumping around? Or what?
Brandon 37:01
Yeah, we had some people shaking a table. Right? I got a better but you know, those big long pieces of butcher paper? Yeah, I got some of those cut a section is probably seven. Now maybe six feet long. And then about a foot wide. And the kind of into like sections of little less than a foot wide. And we some people's job was to I put the put my pendulum is a Styrofoam cup, full of marbles with a sharpie stuck in it. So I tech, high tech was like held in place by some binder clips. Oh, yeah. Hey, I
Collin 37:45
am using binder clips for exactly three different things right now at my desk. So they have all the
Brandon 37:51
binder clips. It's great. I use them all the time. And then I had a my cup. I had a string tied to the cup. And the string was looped over some yardsticks, that is meter stakes, excuse me, that I had taped together so that they would be a little more firm. Right? So I grabbed the I have some meter sticks that we don't use in class because they're like the real flimsy ones. You know, it wasn't like real thin. And they're like flippy floppy. You don't talking right? Yeah, yeah, not the big chunky ones that are like really good. I have some like junky ones. And so they usually stay in the cabinet. So what I did was I took about three or four of those really flimsy ones. And I just duct tape them together.
38:36
Nice to make a sturdy cross
Brandon 38:39
beam. And we hung the cup from that. So two kids held the stick, right? They were in charge of pendulum holding. And then I had some I put my table out. And then some kids were responsible for moving the paper. Right. So I drew a big black line with a sharpie in the middle of the paper. That's the baseline part. So they had to move that under the Sharpie, right. And then everybody else as job was to kick and move the table. So we got some very exciting from this. There's Reg, telling a bunch of sixth graders to attack a table. Yeah, yeah, we're good. Turns out and so got some pretty good results. So yeah, those are hanging on the wall right now. But we did. So, so what,
Collin 39:35
takeaway or lesson for them, other than how hard it takes to push a table,
Brandon 39:40
how we're just talking about how it works, right? Like the mechanics of the actual machine and how they use like, how do you measure a seismic wave in general, like, what is a seismic wave? And what does this tell you? So we're just relating this to like, the size, like we're basically correlating the amplitude to the force of the earthquake, right so we can then look at our graph
40:00
Can't say Oh, well, this is a strong, like we can see this big long is tall amplitude
Brandon 40:09
height here. The distance between that is tall. So that means this was a stronger earthquake than this one over here where the amplitude is
Collin 40:16
smaller. And having been part of a group that kicked the table harder, right? They're able to Yeah, cause cause and effect there.
40:27
Yeah.
Brandon 40:28
It was just kind of fun. We were talking about seismic waves, like P waves and S waves and all that stuff. So yeah, we're just putting, we're talking about seismographs and how you read them, and all that kind of stuff. So pretty good times. Almost done with earthquakes. But I had to, like, Thanksgiving break is, you know, tomorrow is the only day last day of school for this week. We only go Monday, Tuesday. So I just have to like, figure out like, Okay, what am I do? How do I do this? What am I do? Like, I have to read plan on my stuff out.
41:01
So right,
41:04
just like, scrambling to be like, Oh,
Collin 41:06
what do we gotta get done for this?
Brandon 41:07
What's gotta go here because of all these like, drills that we had to do like, fire drills and all that stuff. And like,
41:16
everyone was saying Earth drills, or
Brandon 41:19
drills, like we didn't do a real earthquake drill. But I do want to my class, because we're talking about earthquake safety, sir. Enough. Obviously, we do it in class earthquake drills, because it's hilarious.
41:30
So what are these drills? And the
Collin 41:32
wind drill, I guess is your tornado drill? And you got your Yeah, and fire? So fire drill as well.
Brandon 41:37
Right. So we like I'm way behind in my class, from last year, because we had all this like stuff. So I'm like, going,
41:47
Ah, what a? I do Oh, no. How
Brandon 41:51
do I rearrange stuff? Like, cram it here? And there? It's very annoying.
41:55
So. So yes. But yeah,
Brandon 42:00
so yeah, that was pretty good. I guess we'll find out tomorrow with the official review won't be officially reviewed. I'm saying
Collin 42:07
Do they? What? What does goes into the review? I guess? Is it different every year? Or do they have some sort of same points of like, if
Brandon 42:17
there's like a forum second criteria forum? I don't remember what it looks like. Exactly. So this is not very helpful commentary. But it's like, Are you some of the stuff is
42:29
like, trying to remember before? There's official form.
Brandon 42:37
Right? And it's like, it's all about, like, some of it's about student engagement score very high on that, because they're kicking the table. So obviously, it's very good. But like, like, there's some, like incidental things like, how were you? You know, and they did a well, maybe those are the, like, informal observations on the informal observation where they just like, show up in your room. It's like, what were you doing? Like? Are you sitting at your desk? Are you engage your students? Are you helping students like that kind of stuff? So the more formal one is like, lesson design and curriculum implementation, like are you? Does your do your lessons, match up with your curriculum and your goals and all that stuff? And then like, talk about like, instructional strategies and things like that? And like, how are your student in student engagement is a big thing, and some other stuff. So those are some of the big points they talk about.
43:30
So we'll see how that goes.
Collin 43:34
Dun, dun dun, continued.
Brandon 43:36
But yes, it's one of the things too, like, I don't remember what is on that forum, because the last one I did was like, last spring at some point, so I don't remember. Because I usually try to do like to, like official, like walk through performance review things, right. There's like two official ones that happen. They're like scheduled, like I'm coming in as de bola. But there's also a lot of like informal ones, where they just like, pop in. Okay. And then they'll give you some they'll email you some kind of like feedback about things that they saw what was happening in the classroom, so. So slightly different criteria on them. There used to be a form for that one, but she's just been like, putting them in a email without the form. So like, she's like, pulling stuff from the form, but just putting in like a paragraph that says, so it's a little more digestible that way it makes more sense. Okay, that okay, that's good. So we'll see if I pay. No. I'm sure we'll find out. So well, pretty much this week is Yeah, kind of hectic as well, because we got lots of stuff going on and trying to cram all this stuff at the end of this, like this two weeks, two days of school, to where the kids are like You're insane. And they're like, no, no, we have things to do. Stop, like
Collin 45:06
because you all that the rest of this week, are you out any of next week as well?
Brandon 45:11
I don't know. It's just this week is this Wednesday, Thursday, Friday? Okay? That's typical. Thanksgiving break time. Sure. So that was it. There's a Friday, and then we'll be back Monday for recommencing of activities. So just trying to get to a spot where, like, a break makes sense, you know, because like, you don't want to be in the middle of something and then go on break for five days, and then come back and having to like, finish the thing. Because that's very unhelpful. To have when you have to do it the next day, like, Okay, we're gonna finish this tomorrow. Make sure we do that. Yeah, it's kind of like, Wait, pacing is difficult.
Collin 46:04
Kind of, like whenever I'm reading the kids a story, right. I can't quite finish a chapter. It's like it. That's so much harder to pick up in the middle of than at the finality, you know, with a cap. Yeah, it's all it's a natural break,
Brandon 46:18
right. Yes. Yeah, so trying to figure that out. Get that, like, sorted and things like that. So. Yeah. And other than that, we're just doing random stuff. No one is exciting is 30 pet visits, but I don't know. About that?
Collin 46:48
Yeah. And, of course, what happened,
46:50
what was what had happened was,
Collin 46:54
we did all these meet and greets with people like two weeks ago,
46:57
three weeks ago. And
Collin 47:01
they get put on our email or that we send out our email, or at least newsletter that was sent out every Friday.
47:07
There's tons of like, Hey, are you booked? Book, book book,
Collin 47:14
if you don't have a confirmation from us, you're not booked. And what happens is people doing meet and greets having more frequently so I don't know I gotta look at what's changing or if it's just the kind of people that we're getting. They do the meet and greet and then they assume that we're good for the dates they told us verbally.
Brandon 47:31
I mean, yeah, that's that makes that's sort of makes sense right? Yes.
Collin 47:38
So we're gonna do some new follow up with like, through text message of weird after the Meet Greets done we can just have a boilerplate like copy paste a text that we send everybody is basically like, Hey, um, you know, no dates are confirmed until we have a booking and a 50% deposit because I did a Meet Greet with somebody two and a half weeks ago and today today they booked for five days this week Oh, I see we had one guy who did he we did the mean greet and he had mentioned like oh you guys do overnights we're like well, we can but you know, those are really limited. He's like, okay, cool, cool. Cool. And then booked overnights which is where we stay in somebody's home and these are oh no, and nobody needs to do these especially not over Thanksgiving. He booked those yesterday I did a meet up with him a week ago and we're gonna wait till yesterday to try and book five nights of overnight stay in his home at which point I had to tell him like we are not available for that. And he was he was not happy about this. And I understand like
49:07
he was hoping to see
49:13
what whatever
Collin 49:14
on our booking website a booking sheet but didn't see it and thought it could book this but you know, we have final say on what we will or will not do. So. I had to convince him to go to drop ins and he wasn't happy about that. But
Brandon 49:29
what ever it'll be fine. It'll be no problem. Like oh, my goodness, that's crazy. Yeah, it was not fun. No, that doesn't that sounds very hectic. Surprise. 7000 overnight days. That's not very exciting. Right? No,
Collin 49:54
nobody likes staying at somebody's home. Like it's just
Brandon 49:58
it's kind of weird. Right? blank it's a bit strange. You know, like, whatever, like one night, you know, again, it's it's fine, but like, five, that's a little crazy. Well, and and, and that's the
Collin 50:24
that's what a lot of people think of when they say
50:28
when they say, pet sitter, they really mean house sitter.
Collin 50:34
They want somebody to stay there 24/7. And that's not something I will ever do. When it was just Megan and I, and we were kind of doing this before we had for you today. Yeah, I get it. But unfortunately, fortunately, whatever. Some people will do that. That's something that's not something we will do. So, every time somebody says, Hey, I'm looking for a pet sitter,
50:59
I do that. Describe to me what
Collin 51:02
you mean, when you say? I do. I'm like, Are you? What does that mean to you? Because I can guarantee you, it's probably not what I am thinking
51:17
of. It'll be interesting.
Brandon 51:28
Hopefully, it was good. Right? They'll be fine. At the low, I want your thoughts on some current events happening. Right. My thoughts on this? Because I've been reading about it. And it's allegedly actually happening.
51:54
So tell me what you know about the line. Here to this thing,
Brandon 52:04
the Saudi Arabia and a mega city that is now apparently currently under construction.
Collin 52:13
Is this is this one of their other like, massive construction projects where they built islands shaped like palm trees? Is that oh, is this like this thing? Okay.
52:22
Yes, yeah, but it's bigger than this. They claim this is going to be like us some sort of smart, mega city. It is going to be it's literally online,
Brandon 52:43
across the desert is allegedly going to be 170 kilometers long.
52:51
I can't remember how high it is.
Brandon 52:53
And it's just going to be like a mega city. Hmm. Right. In this thing, allegedly, that plan is gonna be like mirrored on the outside, right? To help with like, I'm assuming heat retention, right. But yeah, a total width of 200 meters only but a height of 500 meters, which would make it the third tallest building in the world, but also 170 kilometers long.
53:26
And so it's supposed to be
Brandon 53:31
powered by renewable energy, which is weird. Coming from Saudi Arabia, there's gonna be like layers in the city, I don't really know what that means. I haven't seen like too many concept drawings from the inside, because, you know, they're kind of hush hush about these names. But like, one layer is going to be like transportation, including a rail system, which is allegedly going to be a high speed rail system. But that doesn't make sense. If your line is only 170 kilometers long, like in the train, the train is gonna take you from like, you're gonna travel on the train sometimes like
54:06
you know, couple 100 meters. So the high speed ness of this doesn't necessarily make
Brandon 54:13
sense to me. Really. Yeah, I'm, I'm looking at the proposed train speed is faster than any train that currently exists. So a lot of this is banking on like, technology that doesn't quite exist yet. Which is interesting plan for making the city. So yeah,
Collin 54:35
well, I'm, I'm looking at this photo.
54:41
Okay. Yeah, first off. What
Brandon 54:47
said Yeah, yeah, that was my first thought as well.
54:50
It runs like,
54:53
straight into an ocean. And already the Red Red Sea.
Collin 54:58
Yeah, and all All of the interior photos are like
55:02
lush forests,
Collin 55:05
which is interesting. And it's almost tropical in nature, but the top is open, and the top is open. And they're claiming it's a temperate climate on the interior. But how?
55:19
I don't know, there's
Brandon 55:21
definitely not how will the imprint, what I'm imagining is going to be, the plan is probably for like, very much water, like salt water desalination. But that technology is also not just like super advanced, not enough to be giving that much water to that many residents
55:41
plus lush tropical gardens. Right? Like that. It does it doesn't make sense. Right? Doesn't make sense at all. Yeah, and they say it's, it'll be
Collin 55:59
will be will be built around nature, rather than over it.
56:04
Now, why are you planting trees? Tries to grow
Collin 56:08
that trying to have that temperate climate in an desert. So
56:13
with So
Brandon 56:15
yeah, that's another good point. Because if your city is 170 kilometers long, but you're building around nature, right? You have just built 170 kilometer in permeable barrier through wildlife habitat. So now our migration, animal migration is now chopped in half for your any animal species that happen to live inland
56:43
of this, right. So like,
Brandon 56:46
that does it that's like, good.
56:49
No, this can't be good for the environment, like just the mirrored walls, like everything will be blind for days. Like it's a desert. There's a lot of sun. I don't know if they do they know this, like, heavily. Okay, we are approaching what at what will aircraft to around this
Brandon 57:07
area idea I am so I'm like, it's like, oh, yeah, this will, you know, obviously they're talking about like, this says it is claimed by the Saudi government that it will create 4040 600,000
57:23
jobs. But like, doing what, like, what are they going to do?
Brandon 57:29
Is that just building it? What we're going to do like, all of the lesson today, once it's built, what do you do anything like that? Polish, you got to polish the glass layers. So you so just briefly to some thoughts, right? Think about cities that have been super urban planned, right? We think about cities like this certain words spring to mind. A lot of those words are Soviet, and
Collin 58:03
a lot of them encompassing and including Soviet in nature.
Brandon 58:10
Right. Like, so there's not a whole lot of cities that are planned
58:16
from start to be like, like, starts finished
Brandon 58:22
like that right? Not to be like we're gonna build it. Boom in one go. Okay. Yeah, like, the capital of Kazakhstan is like this. And that city looks weird.
58:32
Right? You know, it's very
Brandon 58:36
Soviet inspired, very wide boulevard. It's very, like, it's very odd and things don't fit. Right. And then around the periphery, you get like,
58:48
slum start popping
Brandon 58:49
up and things like this, right. But most of the times plan cities like of this nature don't work. Cities are not to be like, romantic about this, but like, seeds are very like organic things that happen, right, you start in an area, and that sort of spirals out based on the need of the city. So anytime you do, like planned super large scale things, right, the planning cannot encompass every need that's going to arise it cannot rise simply does not function that way. And so you get these things that look really really odd and unfinished and broken and they don't work correctly. Right, like, just like a city in a straight line. It's just a weird concept because like, getting from like the grocery store to your work to being like, how does that
Collin 59:47
Oh, small seat Yeah,
Brandon 59:48
but you know what? I'm gonna have to go like so. That basically it. We're thinking about it, just like in the simplest terms, like I walk out of my door. I had to go to the grocery store. I have to go left. But to go to my job, I have to go right. But to go to where my kids go to school, I
1:00:06
have to go more left, like how does this conceptually work this ping pong in between all the places I need to go because I can only go in a linear fashion between them. I know like, I almost guarantee that the connectivity between one end to the other is almost zero and nobody will have any need to traverse the entire distance. It'll be sectioned off, like sectioned off member it just right. Yes, neighborhoods like, like what Kansas City in some portions, right has some of that planning of like, we're going to try and put all shops at every set intervals, so that you don't have to travel any too far to pace that says you're gonna have to do was I don't know how that goes. But to here's where the Soviet deepness comes into this of like, well, then what does that mean for jobs, right? Because I can't just have the same job in over and over and over and over and over again, in a block. Right, like, yeah, so now you can
Brandon 1:01:06
like custodial staff, blah, blah, blah, blah, but like, service industry things like you'll have to have like food, maybe restaurant
1:01:14
within like, a pain? I don't, I don't
Brandon 1:01:18
know, how often do you need to put a bank often? On your line? Do you space for bank out? Like, you're gonna mean like this?
Collin 1:01:26
Yeah, exactly. What, what, what's the purpose of that? Or how do you how do you plan for that exact need?
1:01:35
And then it just, this just seems like the unnecessary exertion of control
Collin 1:01:47
for no other reason than they think they can. Like, there's
Brandon 1:01:50
genuinely no need for this. Now, that's the other problem. Like, there isn't a need for this. Right? And it's talking about, like, it'll how's this many people? Like? Where are those people coming from? Like, why would they move they're like, from where, from where your country already doesn't have like a huge population anyway. I mean, it's like, you know, it's fine. But it's not like, not like hurting for space. You know, and they also have a bit of a history of like, starting big building projects that don't get finished. Yeah, so that's a big thing.
Collin 1:02:36
Well, I will say that there is some, if I remember correctly, they, they, they are needing to do something with their billions and billions of dollars. To put them into work and production and things, because they have just so much money sitting around that they are working to invest it. And obviously they want to invest it in themselves.
Brandon 1:03:02
I mean, yeah, and I know that you it's, you know, it's probably a good idea to invest in things that are not you have to diversify your stuff, right? Because like we think about they are one product state. Really, yes. Now have, like, what else are you exporting?
1:03:23
Nothing, or you have one export. That's really it. You know, you don't have
Brandon 1:03:30
a lot of other service or stuff. Now, like, there's not a lot of other things happening. So you do need to do and diversify that portfolio so that you can continue to have, you know, money and make money and do things but like,
1:03:47
I don't see how a straight line city accomplishes this. Right.
Brandon 1:03:53
It's very confusing to me, like I said, like, I like use it. I mean, like, though, I don't understand the purpose. Like what, why? Why, right, it won't make sense. And, like, it'll make more sense to me, if this was like a highly populated area. And you're trying to do a thing to like, we're gonna, you know, we maybe it'll be someplace like, you know, I don't know, some places like super populated like a, you know, certain parts of Brazil, right? So like Sao Paulo, for example. If you're like, Okay, we're going to build a mega city here, so that we can relocate this chaos into more organized structure and try to have more of an urban plan other than there's like, the city that's just sort of like, exploded, and there's just stuff everywhere, and it makes no sense.
1:04:44
Right? That
Brandon 1:04:47
that makes more sense to me, like, right, as a as a potential candidate for
1:04:51
this, you know, like, middle of desert. And what's interesting is I,
Collin 1:05:00
I am, I am on the NE yo m.com website. And yes and Yom Yom thing. Apparently, the line is just three it was just one of three regions that they're focusing on the line is the what we're talking about here basically a legend a skyscraper on its side in the middle of a desert. They have the octagon, which is another plan to city in the shape of,
1:05:33
you know, guess
Collin 1:05:35
where that's going to be they're not very clever. That's going to be their focus of industry and technology. And then they have another one called tro Gina, which is a mountaintop resort city, highly designed as well. So they have so you can see all of a sudden, they've got the the fun to play in the mountains, the business sector of the octagon, which and then they have the line, which is where everybody will just live, it will be happy. And they are now dictating about where people go and they
Brandon 1:06:10
like other places and like move everybody to these places. Yes,
Collin 1:06:14
yes. Yes.
Brandon 1:06:16
So be fine. Perfectly fine. Yeah. So um, follow up question.
1:06:23
Who keeps reading
Brandon 1:06:26
sci fi slash cyberpunk literature and going on? Oh, this is a great idea. Let's do that. These books
Collin 1:06:33
always in happily.
1:06:37
Right. Like, it seems like
Brandon 1:06:40
a lot of the news, I can remember there was another headline that I saw it I too long ago. And it right. It was like, It's like somebody has been reading like cyberpunk stuff. And they are they played cyberpunk or something. And they're like,
1:06:54
oh, no, let's do that. Like, you missed the point
Brandon 1:06:57
that you missed, you missed the or glossed over the whole point. You missed. You missed the whole story arc here of why, how bad this goes? Or because in in these in these settings, right? And like sci fi, like, these mega cities don't go well. Right? They're a bad plan.
1:07:20
They always
Brandon 1:07:21
something always goes wrong. All the stuff is about like how it's bad. How all these you know, it's always about like, the elite get set here. And then like the marginalized have to like fight in the corners for scraps and whatever, and eke out their own stuff. Like that's what the literature is about. And then that's what this website says is happening. Yeah,
Collin 1:07:43
well, you can see, again, it's very, very alluring to try and do these to make things nice and clean and beyond the equality that it can provide people quote unquote. But what people forget is that in these situations, the immense amount of of control oversight rules regulations necessary to keep that in the status quo.
Brandon 1:08:13
This is auditing very Soviet again.
Collin 1:08:15
Yes. No, it really, yes, no, I know. That's, that's where everything goes off the rails is the more you try and exert such an immense control in cookie cutter pneus. And, you know, you have this job in this place, and this home for this reason for this. And that you it starts, what does that start doing? It takes the the utopian idea, and now it turns it into a hellscape. Because you have removed the humanity and from the people from the people who are actually in that place, because of what you have to do to control that. For them to be there.
Brandon 1:08:52
Yeah, and this is what happened in the Soviet Union. Right. This was what was happening when you're trying to control all the minutiae, yes, that just occurs, right? Even like what you know, even so far as like economic. bloc's, right. And when you're constantly trying to like overcorrect for like, natural market flux, like things just go bad in a hurry. But like, when you're trying to plan like every minut detail
1:09:20
of everything, like over, you know,
Brandon 1:09:24
like really just clamping down on controlling and micromanaging like every single step of every single thing in anybody's every single day, like,
1:09:33
stuff just goes sideways, in just the most odd ways. Right? And
Brandon 1:09:40
like weird stuff happens because you're trying to over plan for things and then when things happen that you didn't plan for it, like the system just shuts down. Nope, it's we can't handle any deviation from the norm. Right? Because you didn't plan for it properly. And it just like explodes. Yeah, right. It just blows up. Yeah. Do you get the literally the Soviet Union? Right? Yeah, what happened? Like little random places, they were like, Oh, we're gonna build a town here in the middle of Arkansas circle. We're just gonna grab people and send them there. And they'd be like, this is your job and your job and your job and your job. And they're like, and everything will be fine. Yeah, and everything wasn't fine. And then the biggest problem with Soviet Union obviously came after it went away. And all the people were there, where they sent them. And so there was no government controlling that these jobs had to arbitrarily be in this place. The jobs left and everyone's like,
Collin 1:10:41
Oh, no, we have nothing now. Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah. And then just the, there's the control. There's the saying The, in East Germany, you know, the Stasi trying to just do mass surveillance on people to control and to keep tabs on what everybody's doing.
1:10:59
And well, you know, how well that went.
Collin 1:11:04
I just these these mass utopian ideas of what the future can look like, are very, not not appealing at all. Let alone there's there's that there's a societal impact. There's the I know, they have boilerplate words about zero carbon emissions and living with nature, not over it or whatever. But it's like,
1:11:28
I I don't
Collin 1:11:32
call me skeptical here. But I have a lot of other questions for how you're going to make this entire 170 Kilometer monstrosity, carbon, neutral of egg. Yeah, sure. Sure.
1:11:48
I don't by the living
Brandon 1:11:49
with Nature Park. Like I have many ideas. And I have seen lots of other concepts for that particular phrase being played out in certain design elements. And it looks nothing like this. No. It looks nothing like a brutalist style rectangle.
Collin 1:12:08
It's like, it's a mud hut, right? In the forest. It's really high, right? It's like,
Brandon 1:12:14
well, yes, it's like houses built with green roofs, and like, hobbit holes, right? And like, you think is like this, like, highways that are elevated, so that there's nature pathways under them? These kinds of things, right? These kinds of ideas are living with nature, in my
1:12:33
opinion, right. Not dropping a queue,
Collin 1:12:38
not standing out in stark contrast of the rest of the surroundings.
Brandon 1:12:43
Yeah, it was just so those screens looking I don't know, I don't know. Yeah, I, yeah, I just wanted to Yeah, I had not heard
Collin 1:12:55
of this. But upon seeing the very first photo of it, I had opinions and
1:13:02
I thought you might just give me like,
Collin 1:13:06
it just, yeah, it hurts your brain to try and dive think through that. And see. And, again,
1:13:13
there's these reasons.
Collin 1:13:15
Like, you can see a logical progression when you give me a logical or not logical of going of how you could arrive at something like this.
1:13:23
Um, but to me, it just,
Collin 1:13:28
it just takes a simple like, next step, kind of, okay, now. Okay, take the next step. And the next step, and you're going to keep this around for how long for perpetuity? How could this thing doesn't look like can be repurposed very easily. Or, because cities tend to have a lifecycle like you were saying, Brandon, like, there's an organic nature to these things and the usefulness of certain areas kind of go away and come back, just just think about the American Mall. Lifecycle it had, and how, thank goodness, we didn't have that master plan of the integral nature of everything because that that stymies so much creativity and ability to adapt and change to a changing community landscape. But I guess in this context, they're going well, no, no, you're not going to work anywhere in here. This is just for you to live. You're gonna go work at octagon or you're gonna go work up in the mountains, doing stuff. So people have to work here,
Brandon 1:14:31
right? Because you can't have this city is planned capacity is 9 million people. Yeah. Okay. So that that's like, you have to have somebody working here. You know, you can't just live there has to be enough. Some jobs going on here. And So my other question that I just had, while looking at these other concept drawings is
1:15:05
where does the like, what do you do with the waste? Like? What is happening with that? Garbage? Human? Or otherwise? Like, what is that going? Because these gardens look fine, I guess. But like,
Brandon 1:15:27
what is the infrastructure under this to make this function? Like, where does that go? What does that? Do?
Collin 1:15:37
You remember how you said it went into what you said went to the what? See again, read, see, read, see, see, I'm sure there are just pipes underneath here, but they're just going to drain the sludge slowly over time to go to get dissolved and carried away by the Red Sea, because we all know that the solution to pollution is dilution illusion that is true. So that's, that's probably Yeah, cuz it's like, where's the infrastructure for that?
Brandon 1:16:06
Is it safe to not in a desert? Yeah. Also, this looking at a couple of these prototypes from the inside. The sense of scale in here is very incorrect, because they're supposed to be 200 meters wide. Some of these drugs are just simply not possible. Like we cannot do. We cannot do this. No, make his 200 meters. Not really that far. Right now. No, not really very wide. I don't know. Sounds like a big number. Right. But it isn't, it's not white at all. And if that is supposed to be, yeah, yeah, 200 meters will cross. These days, there's no way that any of these drugs can work. Like that's just not that doesn't make sense that I don't,
Collin 1:17:19
yeah, there's just so many, just so many things in here. We're just just, if you just read the language, it's just
1:17:29
just ridiculous. Oh, my gosh. hurts my brain. Yeah, it does.
Brandon 1:17:39
And things like, you know, living with nature, right? Look at these phrases again, right? This to me says like being able to go places, without any transportation whatsoever, like walking and or
1:17:57
like cycling, right? So if you think about like, going
Brandon 1:18:02
living with nature, right, that there needs to be like less car less transport. So it means like a Dutch city, right? Like, I can ride my bike everywhere. Right? You can't ride your bike in a straight line. Because I have roads in here. So like what do you like you have to take some kind of transportation somewhere like there is no like, they don't appear to be walking. No. Oh, yeah, they're like, on here they say. Oh, hold
Collin 1:18:29
on. I'm going to scroll because it's going to really hurt my brain. They say
1:18:34
oh, no, there's this. Ah,
Collin 1:18:37
I just lost it because it was like our zero car No, oh, hold on. Here it is reduced out here it is. With zero. R zero car environment is part of a 100% sustainable transport system with zero pollution and a zero wait time.
Brandon 1:18:58
Yeah, you know, what else would be zero pollution? Zero wait time
1:19:02
cycling pads. Well, why? Yeah. So like, what is the way zero wait
Brandon 1:19:13
time it's impossible.
1:19:15
It's impossible. There's no way that millions of people there, you're waiting on something. Unless they really are waiting on something,
Brandon 1:19:23
right? Like those what?
Collin 1:19:24
Unless you're literally having it sectioned off to the nth degree such that you don't have to move.
1:19:31
But I don't know that's
Brandon 1:19:34
what that's what I'm wondering like how so you have this you know, as as
1:19:39
every is every like, I don't know, kilometer,
Brandon 1:19:44
let's say, you know, just arbitrarily right? Is every kilometer basically a repeatable section? It would have to be right that's what I'm that's what I'm wondering. Like, how like that like if I'm going to have no wait time. And I'm going to do things like this is my is there like a block? Like I imagined it's like, a like Legos just like strung side by side where every piece is just like
1:20:12
the same.
1:20:14
Let's are very similar this from the, from a
Collin 1:20:18
cruise ship design standpoint,
Brandon 1:20:20
I think that's a really good analogy actually. Yes, yeah. Where
Collin 1:20:26
there's just it's, you know, it's a set length and width. And you know, it has all the same stuff and different, you know, and you just can kind of go about your time in a cruise ship, and you can go to this restaurant and this, but it never changes, right. It's always the same, but it's all self sufficient and self contained in as much as a cruise ship is except that has been, you know, resupplied and whatever. But like,
Brandon 1:20:52
but like, why you're out,
1:20:54
right? Yes. Yeah. But to me,
Collin 1:20:57
how many people would want to go just live on a cruise ship?
1:21:03
There are some people probably
Brandon 1:21:05
wouldn't want to change ships. Right? Like, you would want to be the same ship for that long. Yeah. Because you would, you would get to the point where it'd be repeatable. And like, you know, even if it's like, so even if this is this thing, like, oh, you know,
1:21:21
there are some variation.
Brandon 1:21:25
So, like, on a cruise ship, like, ah, you know, every, let's say, every deck has a restaurant. But like, it's not the same restaurant on every
1:21:33
deck. Yeah, I mean, yeah. Right.
Brandon 1:21:37
But in a city like this, you can't have the deck on like, you can't have the restaurant on deck for be like, way good. Because in everybody want to go to deck four, and nobody's going to bet three. Uh huh. All right. So now you're like, that's the plan doesn't it doesn't involve any like, variety. Right? You can have no like competition. Also. Yeah. You must make same borscht everywhere, right? Like, right
1:22:12
now, or like what they're doing with their cars, right? Like, everything was the same quality you didn't get? There's no options for anybody. It was all the cell. Well, well, okay. Anybody? I mean, for people not going to party. Yes. Right. Like those not in control? Because that's the other thing of like, I don't think Crown Prince, whatever his name is, is going to have residents in this city.
1:22:39
I I really don't know
Brandon 1:22:43
does he's gonna have like a penthouse in like, the top floor of like one part, right? Like,
Collin 1:22:48
you will have a whole section to have like a kilometer to himself. What do you
Brandon 1:22:53
mean maybe, like, ethical point, like there could be a royal family section. Just be like, you know, we're of the people too,
Collin 1:23:03
but not touching the plebes. Because, yeah, rather than floor here,
Brandon 1:23:09
looking down
Collin 1:23:11
on you, figuratively. Not real, but, of course, but also in reality.
Brandon 1:23:17
Reality they're actually on the mountaintop. So like, Oh, I just
1:23:24
yeah, there's just there's so many things wrong with this. I can't even Yeah, it's so weird.
Brandon 1:23:31
It's so weird. And like you said before, like, the biggest thing that Ivan keep coming back to you is that is the point, right? There's a reason that in like science fiction, right? mega cities are set in like, certain areas of the world that makes sense. Japan, often in sci fi fan fiction, there is not sci fi fiction that's done brain and don't say it's fiction, science fiction fiction. And sci fi like, Japan is a setting for mega cities. Right? Because it is a very, very densely populated area. Right? Certain sci fi has, like parts of the US that have mega cities, like usually someplace like
1:24:10
Los Angeles see, right? Or,
Brandon 1:24:15
like the East Coast, like the corridor, basically from like, Boston to DC or it's already a mega city anyway, pretty much like that kind of area, right? Where the population density is so high already, that it's a solution for population density. Right, that sort of mega city. In normal parlance is for when people talk about legacies, it's usually in that context.
1:24:39
Right. So it seems odd to me
Brandon 1:24:47
to completely envision design construct a city for 9 million people in a place where there's no people. Yes, yeah. Right, like it's problem solving a problem, right? You're not solving a population problem or an overpopulation problem, right? Or population
1:25:11
density problem. You're just plopping it down. In a place where no one lives, you know, as it seems real,
Brandon 1:25:25
real odd, right? Like, it's real strange to do that. Right. The population of Saudi Arabia itself is only 35 million people. Right? where's the where's the rest of the people? Where the rest of going? Number one? Where the rest of the I guess they're staying in the other? Cities? Right? I don't know. Yeah, but like, yes, that is. Right. Maybe they're staying in video or whatever. Like, I don't know. But yeah. So that's a one question. But they only have 35 million people total. Right. Like? Yeah, absolutely. Real quick here. You're fine. So in the Yeah. So for comparison, this like the East Coast corridor area of the United States? This area, we're talking 180 million people. Right, yeah. Over Over 100 million people in that area. So like, that's like the whole east coast, the United States. So probably like a little bit less. So I'm talking about the northeast, right. Yeah. So that again, that is a place where you have you know, mega city construction, not a not a place where there's only 35 million people to begin with. That seems very just out of context. Yeah. Yeah, it is. It's It's strange.
Collin 1:27:36
Yeah, again, back to what? What are they trying to solve?
Brandon 1:27:41
The population of Japan just Japan. 125. Wow. Right. So like, what are you doing? You do it there we go. As I just want to bring that up today. I wanted your thoughts on this. Bizarre goings on.
Collin 1:28:07
I'm interested to keep tabs on this and see what happens. Because yeah, that's very odd. It's very odd.
Brandon 1:28:18
It's real odd.
Collin 1:28:19
I have no idea. Okay, yeah, well, I'm about I am intrigued. Also horrified. All right. Yes. Whatever. Fine thanks. Okay. Well, yeah, have that futuristic fun on her. Yeah.
Brandon 1:28:43
periodic updates as they occur. They occur
Collin 1:28:47
Be on the lookout. Fun. Add that. Add that to the list but put a marker right there. Okay, very good. Well, that'll bring me night tears tonight. Yeah, well, that bombshell. Love you. Bye.