Collin has watched a weird video. Brandon is eating sandwiches. Aaron hasn’t watched the olympics. We have strong opinions about Pinterest and wish it was just better. We end with a discussion on watching the Winter Olympics. We have more opinions…

Instant sublimation
Metal melting points
Not fans of Pinterest
Flee Market Vinyl Free-for-all
Sandwich for breakfast!
Winter Olympics
IOC where is our check?

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Collin, Aaron, Brandon

Collin 00:05

Welcome to Oh, brother, a podcast of three brothers, trying to figure it all out with your hosts, Brandon, Cullen and Aaron. On this week's show, vinyl free for

00:17

all. Hello Hello, boy. Oh boy. Have you ever gotten to the point where you're like, really tired, so you're just kind of scrolling? And then you, like, look at what you're actually watching. You're like, Oh, what am I?

00:44

That? No. Okay, but I don't I don't bike. Do that. So like I don't explain I'm very tired because I am trying to fit in two weeks worth of work in like four days, which is a mistake. True could have been some better planning. So I was kind of trying to

Collin 01:10

kind of like decompress, and like just kind of like a blog for a moment. And I'm on Instagram and I'm scrolling and all sudden I am watching a video of some dude pouring melted silver into an avocado. I mean, I think I need to pack that is a good question. I do that thing on YouTube where I see like watching something and then I like see the suggested thing and I go okay, I have to know what that is. I know, I need I mean, that's how I ended up watching like Ghost Town boy, right? That's how that happened. So like, fair enough. That's or like other other random things that are associated with that seemed like, okay, so I kind of know what you're saying. Right? Like yeah, it's a big scroller of the things I don't really know. But I can see how that

02:03

would happen. Right? Because like, it's really a does that thing where like, switches up on you all of a sudden be like, that was nowhere near

Collin 02:09

where I started. I don't know what happened. Watching videos of like people in their dogs or reading like, podcast stuff, and now this is melted silver being poured into an avocado. No,

02:25

I don't know. Did you know why he was pouring silver into an avocado?

Collin 02:32

No, it was one of those. Also, the other thing that doesn't help is that usually when I'm doing that scrolling, the phone is on mute. And so I have no sound is so I'm sure I'm sure if I went back and found it which I will literally never be able to do because that's how the internet works. And that's how Instagram works. I sure it had like some sort of ASMR aspect because as it was pouring in it was in cooling and then like bubbling and spitting out as it was as the the water from the avocado was interacting with the melted silver so I'm sure there was some sort of like, Yeah, but that's not like a soothing sounds like a violent reaction noise like I don't know. Like, like a soothing like, Ah, here's some relaxing background noises. No, that's like a violent like his steam. Like instant sublimation noise that like look. Oh man, that's cool. I'm not I'm not judging what people find relaxing. I mean, that's true. But still, anyway, I would like that's also seems like a wasted I mean, I guess you just remelt it. Yeah, because it's that's how silver with a metal works. I feel like zactly that seems like if it was silver. That seems like a bit of an expensive experiment to just like fling at an avocado. Because silver is not cheap. Right. Technically precious metal. So like, you know, but I think weird between that I'm trying to figure out but it also has a pretty I don't know not pretty, but it has a lower ish melting point. I think that's true. Yeah. So I think that's another reason. Maybe again, low, you say low melting point of a metal edge just means not 7000 degrees that's less than steel. Right let's the iron baby. Yeah, yes. Let's see, oh, I've pulled up the melting chart, melting point chart and of course, it is not in order. Why is it in oh my gosh, this is a silver is. Silver is 1700 degrees pretty high. But this higher than I was expecting, you know the chart that I pulled up, the metals are ranked in alphabetical order. Not in order of my melting point. No The terrible chart. It would be a lot i Oh, man, I Is there one that it's by melting point? Because I bet that would be a lovely little curve. Right? And it wouldn't be well, except, I mean, yeah, maybe not curved, but like it would be much more pleasing. If it look at definitely, well, I'm here. So here's a bar graph. And that actually is actually much help. That's, that's better. Horses on Pinterest. I don't like Pinterest, because they, I can never actually get to what I want. Whenever it was images comes up, and it's like sign in. And it's like, No, that's true. Even if you do sign in, then it's like, whatever you want. Like I can't, you're like, Oh, I'm looking for what? Like. I don't like it. Because it's not an organized search. You can't like search

Brandon 05:48

things. Like, it just brings up like 700,000 Other things people posted and you can't like filter searches

Collin 05:57

in any meaningful way. Yeah. And so you just get like, stuff. Because I had to do that for some education classes. They're like, Oh, yeah, here's where you can use Pinterest to do this stuff. And like, know, what if? No, because I just don't I my brain doesn't work that way. Right? Like I can't, I if I'm searching for something, I want this thing. You know, not like 20 tangentially related things

Brandon 06:33

that are not in order. And they're just like, ever.

Collin 06:39

It's like, it's okay, here you go. Here's an analogy for you. It's, this might not make sense to literally anybody, but it's like going into a Barnes and Noble

Brandon 06:51

versus going into a Books a Million.

Collin 06:56

You know, what, that is a reference that a large chunk of the population. No one's gonna get that. No, no, it is. Because I think the proportion of people who have been into a Barnes and Noble or a book a million, let alone somebody who has spent any appreciable time in both of them to have understood the difference in

07:21

organization, or lack thereof in this case, just like here's literally a million books on the shelves. Have fun losers, like that's what it feels like when you go to that store. Spike, or okay, if you're like,

Brandon 07:38

a, like a. I know. Like a used bookstore. Yes. Versus a flea market? Yes. Right. That might be more useful, like a used bookstore. Usually, they're quite curated, and they have everything, like, put in certain areas. And then like a flea market, where it's like,

07:59

boxes full of books. That's what Pinterest is. It's a flea market book bin,

Collin 08:06

where you have no idea what's in there. Just like a big mystery. But when I hear it was just like, Oh, I heard you want books. These are technically books. But it's like a book. And one of them. You're like, I'm pretty sure this is a scroll. And they're like, oh, it's close enough to a book. I think they have paper like this is not helpful at all. Yeah, no, it's like this is the worst thing ever. Don't want this. Get out. No, I discovered, I discovered. Also, this chart is

08:38

very beautiful. You can have to post it somewhere for the viewers to see this is as beautiful as I thought and silver is definitely on the far left hand side. It's very low down,

Collin 08:46

I think, I think definitely below 2000 degrees, definitely below 2000. So my only other thing is I assume it's silver, but it very, very easily could be lead. It probably is lead that's probably lead for this kind of thing. Now that we're like Lando temperatures. Yeah. Very much more reasonable temperatures. That you see like a lighter you can hold it in your hands and breathe on it. Yeah, you'll be like yeah, here we go. Yeah, I think I think that that is I mean it's not like mercury who's melting point is like literally negative 50 degrees Fahrenheit so that's true. That's true. I don't they don't have mercury on this. Now that would be exciting to see like the negative side like, like what what is literally never solid and if it is, I want one of these for gases. This would be beautiful. Oh no, definitely negative. So I was gonna say I have discovered in our little town, Oh, amazing. used bookstore and used a music store. So they have a bookstore side. And then on the other side is CDs, a Vinyl, and you can walk up, and they have little vinyl record players stationed around the perimeter and headphones. So you can go. That's kind of cool. Yeah, let's do vinyl. That's definitely better than the flea market vinyl selection. You won't talk about a free for all. antique store slash free, flea market vinyl box. Oh my gosh. It's the craziest thing ever. Especially here in southwest Missouri, because it's mostly like 700 gospel records, or like classic country records,

10:40

and then all of a sudden, there's just like, AC DC, like, what, what? Where did that go? Or why is all these like crazy stuff. And then the last time I was in the flea market, we went just for like funsies

Brandon 10:56

as you do sometimes. And there was like, every Herb Alpert and the Tijuana Brass record in this box. And I had to like, restrain myself

Collin 11:06

from buying them. They were all literally all of them. Were it's free, every single one. Except for like, one that I could think of right? Like, oh, my goodness. Yeah. I was just like, I was not expecting that. The herb Elbert collection. Very lovely, cool, fun stuff that you can can stumble upon. But you're right. It's one of those things of like, but if you want to stumble upon that you have to be dedicated to going to those kinds of things. Yeah,

Brandon 11:43

I guess that's true. I mean, I guess that's the appeal of Pinterest is like that mindless you can do that, like scrolling thing like you're talking about? He's kind of scroll through, just kind of absent mindedly and then if you find something cool, he's like, Oh, I'm gonna save that blimp. Right. It is kind of like the flea market where you're sort of like aimlessly wandering around like that somebody bedsheets that's literally something someone bought two days ago and decided they didn't want

Collin 12:08

you know, here is a box of eight tracks from 1971. Like what like like, here is a typewriter like, Oh, that's really cool. Here's like a world Atlas from like, 1837. And then, you know, right next to it's like, here's someone's grandma's ugly dishes that nobody wants. Yeah. See previous episode where we talked about stuff and organizing. But it apparently Pinterest is actually super good. If you are a business, selling things. Pinterest gets a ton of traffic. And I guarantee you it's because and they always feel like wow, Pinterest drives a lot of traffic and you get a bunch of clicks and views. I guarantee you, I would I would wager $5 that it is the vast majority of people who are like me who are trying to find an image, click on it, can't find it and then back out. But they're like, ah, we got we got traffic to our mean. Yeah. I think we're just scrolling down through there. And there's like, oh, okay, that's cool. That's kind of what I was looking for. Right? Yeah. But it's weird in an curated search selection, but I mean, that's, I don't know. That's kind of how I shop in real life. Sometimes, sir, like, just going around and be like, Oh,

13:42

that's cool. I should buy that. Yeah, right. Like, very impulsive.

Collin 13:48

Like, with certain things, you know, just like, Oh, I'm not a person that sits down. Often. There are examples. What I'm currently in the middle of, it's driving me crazy. But like,

14:02

usually, I'm not like seeing that going, oh, I need to have exactly this. And I'm looking for this feature. And I want

Collin 14:07

that. Normally, I'm like, Oh, that's cool. I should get that. Again. It's usually price based cuz I'm usually not a person that spends lots of money on shopping things. So that approach is like, fine if you're spending like $12 You know what I mean? Yes, I guess sometimes you just need like, if you're going for and I I guess what it really is it's really the other thing but no specific thing. Am I Yeah, well, an ideas board is what it is. Right? Like how can I start piecing together? Something in this? Yeah. And use it for something else? You know, kind of like if you don't know where to start? Yeah, that's true. Aaron, do you Pinterest at all. We ever been on there? Yeah, I hear it's good for wedding planning. So do you have like the Shelby like $7,000 Now, so we've looked at a lot of stuff. Pinterest is nice, in a sense, but the problem is that there is so many things, that there's a lot of

Aaron 15:12

those kinds of sites that can take you off direct you and I, because I try to use them for my class at some point, but then it's just like, there's way too much stuff, or there's like, everything. That's not exactly what you need. So I have used it, we haven't looked at it. But the interest of now is a little bit different than the interest of like, nothing back in the day. But we just haven't used it that much. Because there's a lot of good things, but it kind of gets oversaturated with, like, the actual content of what we're looking for.

Collin 15:49

Now, that's true, I think you are right, in that it's like, almost an overexposure of stuff. Because like, it's just overwhelming. Like, there's so many things out there, and you kind of get overwhelmed like, I just wanted this one thing. And I hate it for teaching too, because like sometimes for geography, right? Like I need this map, right? Oh, and I click on an image and go to the site, and it's like a Pinterest thing. And you like, okay, yeah, click up again. Yeah, well, then you click on it again, and it takes it like somebody's like, weird teachers pay teacher's store, like some other beard thing. Like,

16:24

guys, I just need a map a blank map of South America.

Aaron 16:30

I'm not paying for that. That's the curriculum. It is weird to think that like, oh, as endless as Google is, like, things like that. But when you type in like, blank principal map of Africa, and it's like, oh, look at all these things. Oh, but if you have to pay for it, or oh, there's Pinterest. And it's like a great thing that you have to go to someone's website and subscribe and then pay for it. Like I don't. I just really want to have. Yeah,

Collin 17:00

no, it just needs to be a blank political map, guys. Totally watch. Surely there's one out there is but you had to you had to find them. Right? You had to click on like four different images to be like, Ah, this one is a usable thing for me. Hurray. I am updating my profile picture on my Pinterest account that apparently I have. Well, there you go. How exciting. I don't know. It should be a picture of you scrolling Pinterest. Now me drinking out of a coffee cup. They go out? Ah. And also, I've not been in here in a hot minute. Oh, my goodness. I know. I think I technically have one because I think I had to sign up for like a college class. And I never deleted it. I probably don't know how to sign into it. But I know it exists. I've been on there before. And it's just like a bunch of random not. I don't know. Yeah.

Brandon 18:13

Any interest? Yes, it is a thing. Susan loves it. She uses it for like, recipe stuff. You know? Oh, yeah. So it's really good for that. I've been

Collin 18:27

reliably fed for the past, like, literally every year of our marriage, because of Pinterest. You know, I guess you can only throw so much shade, because like some of the recipes he finds on there. So good. Like that's really good for recipe hunting.

Brandon 18:54

That's true. Because that would be a good way to use it. Right? Like,

Collin 19:00

uh huh. You just look at the picture thing. And the one you want you click on and there's the recipe. Boom, done. That makes sense. Right. Like trying to use it for like, some certain other things. Like so possible. Yeah, I think that's what, yeah, doesn't really follow the typical

19:25

like search engine. Formatting. Yeah. Not, not how. Yeah, but again, if you're looking just for if you're just looking for like new food ideas,

Collin 19:34

and you go like, Oh, I want like, you know, whatever. Type in like, Greek recipe, boom, list of like 20 billion. You scroll down to find that looks cool. When you click on it and say, oh, okay, picture that. We're like, Oh, that'd be cool. Right. And you're looking for new egg sandwich recipes. Right? You scroll through there.

20:01

Looking for new ways to look for new ways to have eggs in your life? Right? You want to say, Man, I need to eat eggs a slightly different way. You just got to

Collin 20:15

find a whole bunch of different recipes that have eggs in them. Boom, boom. A new favorite egg sandwich just a click away on Pinterest and doing so too proud. And it's like okay, now okay, sorry you. I mean, I don't know. I am going to search Pinterest. Oh, please do live.

20:44

Live in the studio. Here we go. Right. My goodness. Did I spell egg right? I make most of these. Most of these deal with egg salad sandwiches.

Collin 20:59

Oh, also good button. Ooh, okay. Okay, so anyway. Fried egg grilled cheese sandwich. Yo, see that? Look at that. That's where most of these are finding. They're like fried egg sandwiches. Grilled cheese. I think generally, egg sandwich eggs are fried. Not always we use the baked ones. Right. We've gone back to sandwiches for breakfast. Just FYI. Important update.

Brandon 21:35

Okay, I began eating egg sandwiches on the regular. Nice. Like, we, we I mean, when I say we Susan makes them in like, she like bakes them in this like, it looks like a muffin tin but giant.

Collin 21:56

Right. And you put the eggs in there. And she's baking them. And then we put them on. Little English muffins. And then just like, soak them in the fridge. And then in the morning, you take them out throw on the little panini grill thing. Whatever. Boom, done. It's awesome. Fantastic. So they go. Excellent recipe. Highly recommend. Just. Yeah. Great. Just keep it like a like a nine by 13 Pan thing with like a lid on it, you know? Uh huh. Because we make a whole bunch. And then she's been eating too. Big map. Done channeling your inner Ponyboy Yes. And crew. Yes. And crew doing the soda egg sandwich thing.

22:57

So have you have you ever watched much of the Olympics these days?

Brandon 23:08

Oh, yeah. The past couple of days. I have because I didn't have to work yesterday. So I have been sitting down at night. Sort of watching them and watch them in the morning a little bit. Like why don't drink my coffee. Because, you know, there's generally nothing on in the morning to watch it like six o'clock. So.

Aaron 23:28

So watching so that that's so I have Erin, Baba you. Oh, not? Not really. I watched the highlight stuff online. But I we don't have like, TV TV. So I can't sit down like, watch it. But I definitely think catching up with like with the highlights.

Collin 23:55

Yeah, we had to. We paid for a NBCs peacock plus, which is yes. Full name. I don't. Yeah. You know, anyway. And yeah, we've been watching the highlights. Once they have these feeds, they're not for every sport, but they're the they're just the video with none of the commentary. And I That's weird. I love the so much. Because, you know, right, like, there's just a camera. There's just the cameras there that they just send the feed out to all the news organization. And they talk over it right. Like there's, like NBC Aster. I guess they're CNNs cameras aren't there? Yeah, it's the Olympic cameras or whatever. Exactly. And so it's just that and you know, somewhere down the processing line, they're going to have things pop over the mom. But instead you just get like the audio from like the ice rink, or some of the ambient sounds too. It is really cool. Like what sports have that. So far we have seen it with mostly ice skating. And then we did see one with some of the ski jumps. Oh, and then there's one with snowboarding, snowboard did one. Okay. And they're just really random. And what I think may happen is they may put that up immediately once it goes live. And then they may come back and process it, take that out, change it back out for something, because I haven't been able to remind you of them. So yeah, well, yeah. Might be like, if it's, if it's something that's on, like,

Brandon 25:43

a weird time here. Yeah, you know, and then they're gonna show it. Like, it's the live version. And if they're gonna broadcast it, like, you know, in an hour or two, they might just, like, throw it up so you can see it. But I think

Collin 25:59

a lot of Olympic sports are so bizarre

26:02

that I, I, some of them, it would be really bad if there was no commentary, because I'd be like, I literally have no idea what I'm watching right now.

Brandon 26:11

I can't like sometimes a commentary and these these like, really esoteric sports, that I have no context, and I only see them during the Olympics. It's really helpful to have the commentary, because I literally don't know what's happening. Now I find that it's, that happens to me more often in the Summer Olympics, right? Because the Winter Olympics just like doesn't have as many events. You know, I feel like, I feel like the event count is way below the Summer Olympic one. Oh.

Collin 26:44

It's just like 12,000 different versions of figure skating, slash ice dancing, and then like,

26:52

some other stuff, but like, so it's not quite as bad. But I still feel like it would be very helpful

Collin 27:01

to have some commentary on a sport that I have never seen before. This is true. And like some of the particulars about like, you know, the like the large or the normal Hills ski jumps. Yeah, like, their base. It's not all about distance, right? Like, they get plus or minus points, depending on the wind direction. ends. Yeah. And so they have to overcome that with different distances. And a lot of this stuff is you're right, like, maybe not the mechanics, but a lot of the back end calculation like jumping. Sure you go down a big hill, and then you jump and see how far you go. But also, yeah,

Brandon 27:46

I was watching that. The either this smooth, never this morning, I think some of the large chill that second round was this morning. Yeah. And they were saying about that the wind cajon thing. It's like, all this data they've been making for like, once each appealing, like Austria or something, or somewhere in Europe for like 15 years or something. That's how they've created their algorithmic calculations for what the score should be if it's a crosswind or a tailwind or a headwind. Like all this stuff is

Collin 28:19

like, what? Exactly, yeah. So by the time they land, they already know okay, he jumped into these kinds of wind conditions at this angle at this speed. And he went down this far. So that means his score is this, like, yeah, it's not just as simple as he jumped as far as it used to be. Because this morning, they also showed like, ski jumping footage from like the 1940s or something. It's, it's very astoundingly different, like shockingly, oh, my goodness, I can't even imagine. I like to see, we've been watching some of this stuff. And I don't know, you know, generally when during the competitions, when they're kind of going getting up to the quarterfinals and semifinals, or whatever, that we start with, not always but they typically start with the not as high ranked competitors. Again, to kind of go in a reverse ish order. And is very fun to watch that progression. Like the first couple papers group of people you see, and then like the last group of people where you're just like, okay, cuz it's one of the things like like, let's just go a ski jumping. I don't know. They all look like they're doing an amazing thing. There's like these little flying squirrels on ice going through the the air that but then you watch the last couple people and you're like, Oh, my goodness, they definitely eke out every last.

29:49

Yeah, they like land at the bottom of the cow. How could you 30 feet further than the guy What the heck?

Collin 29:58

You're just left there being like, okay, Okay, I definitely I just give me a little bit of context now. About what what sets these people apart. While I was watching the mins 10,000 what's called the skating race? Oh, yeah, yeah, that's long track. Yeah, long. I watched some of that. The other day. Yeah, the Italian guy broke his own world record that he said last year. And the guy that he was racing did like his third or second personal best and still did an amazing job and still managed to podium, but the gap between these two guys just immense. And you really got to see that again of like, wow, these are the top of their sport competitors. And you can still see this kind of difference between them on this day. Yeah, the long track. speedskating is definitely really crazy. It's like, I don't know. I don't know what it is this year. But like I've been trying a lot of maybe it's because I literally just saw the Summer Olympics, like five months ago. Sure. And that never happens. You know, this is a very, like, extra weird thing. But like,

31:20

like the long track pursuit deal. I was just like, well, this I watched this. This was the cycling,

Collin 31:25

right? Like, the speed skating events are just indoor cycling.

31:32

Right? Like you're right. It was like, Whoa, it is it's the same camera angle. It's the same idea has made it much easier for me to understand what was happening.

Brandon 31:43

Because I've watched it before, but never like, in me, you know. So there's definitely kind of I've made that stark. Like this revelation hit me.

Collin 31:54

Yeah. Well see exactly some of the summer in wintertime analog in these. Yeah. I've really enjoyed watching the cross country skiing is also just outdoor cycling, by the way, anyway. Like, oh, this was a bike. This is a no, no analog for the biathlon, ski and shoot. But I don't know why. But I really like to watch that. Like it's great. It's like the most hectic thing. Oh, in the world, because like you missed the shot, you have to do the penalty lab and you do the thing. And it's like all this 700,000 different. It's crazy. Exactly. Wonderful. Oh, I was gonna say one of things that I've really appreciated, is also some things that they've done is they've been sending down I don't know if they've done this in years past I have really haven't paid that much attention. But I've been watching these specifically where they send down a camera man to do the course. And so you can watch it first person about what the components are See, as they go down. Oh, I haven't seen one of those yet.

33:12

I'll see if I can do that. They do that with like a they did that with I saw one of the like this downhill skiing ones. Yeah, I've seen that before with

Collin 33:19

that. I saw the one on like a Super G was one of the ones that I saw. And then yeah, yeah, they do it with a sliding stuff usually. Yeah. Or like, bobsled and luge. And yeah, which is a sliding sport, which is I just said it was gleaming. And another example. Anyway, that's been fun to see and talk to, especially watching it with the kids and being able to point out like, this is what this person sees. So when we watch the other angle, just remember about like, how fast this is actually going. Like, it's hard to pick up on that sometimes. Of like, that is the amount of reaction time that these people well don't have. And the camera definitely does not show like with a downhill ski. Just how stupidly steep that hill is. Oh, right. Like the camera does not do a good job. So when you see the first person when you're like, Oh my God, how, how are

34:18

they alive? Yeah, no, I think I think that I think about the one time of my life I went snowboarding. It's like, Nope,

Collin 34:25

I'm out. Done. Yeah, and to think that they are descending at like 85 miles an hour. Some of these guys were clocked at 8590 miles an hour going downhill and blind crests and around corners. I was just like, No, no, no. I like my knees firmly attached to the rest of my body and that's

34:53

all I like I mean, oh man, no kidding. Pretty Pretty. With that, but yeah, a lot. So I've been I've been really enjoying that, for sure.

Collin 35:10

Yeah, it's harder to watch the Olympics, the winter ones always because, like,

Brandon 35:14

just the time, because you know, I am often in the summer. So I watched it, like, all the Summer Olympics. And I just can't do that in the wintertime. Like, I just don't

Collin 35:25

you know? And there's like, I just don't really like figure skating and I can't always, sometimes I just want to watch it because that's all that's all. Like, so, it is, it is sometimes harder just to like watch it because of the timing

Brandon 35:43

stuff. But, you know, it's try to watch it more this year, because there was like,

Collin 35:50

I keep I guess I just normally I really like because I'm big things. We

Brandon 35:54

discussed this a few months ago, obviously. And like, what I guess I should they keep mentioning the, like the last winter Olympics and likes South Korea or whatever. I think I just didn't watch like literally any of that.

36:09

Because I keep forgetting that it happened. I don't know what in the world I was doing. I don't know what was going on. But I don't know if

Collin 36:17

I've watched any of it. I can I can definitely tell you that I have no memory or recollection of the last one.

36:25

So I don't know what happened. And I don't know why I didn't watch it. Like I don't think I watched any of it. Which is just really strange for me to do.

Brandon 36:41

So I don't really know what happened in my life. Aaron, did you watch it? The last one in South Korea? Do you remember this happened? Are you like all of us? Me? Like

Aaron 36:49

I remember it happening. But as far as like watching it, I don't recollect. But that also brings me to kind of like a thought of like, in your mind, or in your eyes? Is the Winter Olympics. Popular? Like, I know, that's kind of like a weird question. Like, when you think of Olympics, my thought always goes to some Olympics. But like the Winter Olympics is always I mean, always kind of like, overshadowed. But it's fascinating to watch at the same time. It's like, I get into this for it. I'm sorry, but like I was swimming in a different vibe.

Collin 37:30

No, I think you are correct. I feel like the Winter Olympics is always less popular. At least in the United States. And the Summer Olympics. I'm sure that's very different if you live in like

Brandon 37:43

Sweden or Norway, right. Where you've won your country's won like 7 million Winter Olympics, gold medals and like two summer Olympic medals, so yeah. But I think so

Collin 37:59

I find that there's a lot more. I don't know. But I agree with you. I generally like watching the Summer Olympics more. And I don't know if that's because it is summer and I have time to enjoy it. Maybe that's just me personally thing, or I don't know this summer. I definitely did. And I really enjoyed watching the it's also a variety thing.

Brandon 38:26

Right. I feel like in the Winter Olympics, there's only a couple different kinds of sports. Yeah. And there's just like, there's a whole bunch of cross country skiing is a whole bunch of figure skating. There's hockey. Yeah, there's, you know, like, there's downhill skiing, slash snowboarding, cross country skiing, freestyle skiing. Why? Yeah, but it's downhill. That one's crazy though, when you actually sit and watch it like how because what?

Collin 38:59

You know, without going into like, all the different kind of overgeneralizing. But like I feel like in the summer there's lots

39:07

of like, I don't know there's there's track appeal, they still rolling events, there's a cycling stuff, there's indoor cycling stuff.

Collin 39:14

Swimming there, you know, like the gymnastics the crazy weird random things like rock climbing, which I really enjoyed watching this summer, plus the archery and then you've got like the dressage which is weird see in the Olympics,

Brandon 39:29

the horse thing is that can I still can't believe that they don't give the horses metal so I'm still a little upset about that.

Collin 39:36

But there's no like, you know, there's no like winter. You know, I think if they did something like a winter like pentathlon? No, that would be really cool. Yeah. Something that's like, bigger, you know? Like there's a whole bunch of like, encompassing multiple things or like, I don't know, because like, I'm not Taking away things from a Winter Olympics like sliding sports are insane. Right? Like I like watching bobsledding. I mean, because it's just right. That's the craziest thing in the world, man, like, what the heck. But I just I think the number of sports that you do in the winter, there's just less of them. You don't I mean, because you've very constricted by the, the temperature and the environment, like the snow and ice thing. There's only so many sports you can do in that. Whereas in the summer, there's like, it feels like again, I don't know if this is actually true. Or just my, like perception. But the variety feels bigger in summer I think you might be on something. Yeah, I definitely agree that when I think Olympics, definitely, like a summer. And then Winter Olympics is always in my mind. Always kind of like a Oh, haha. It's also a thing. No, that's not fair. Because they're just yeah, good athletes and whatever. Like that. But I feel like, but yeah, I just feel like there's less to like lather. It is here. I mean, yeah, like 100% less alike. But there's it is it is. It's all basically very, very similar. Same stuff, with slight variations, like when we were watching, and we've watched the highlights with the kids showing the difference between scalp and lose and bobsled. And even Lilian was like, Are these on the same track? I was like, yes, they are. Yeah. They were all I mean, they can open gates and stuff. And, you know, I think bobsleds a little bit bobsled starts from a different spot, but like, they start differently. But yes, this section of the track this corkscrew that you're seeing right now, we have watched that to other times where someone was going on the stomach, and then on the back, and now they're in a little car, right? Yeah. I'm like, cuz, you know, like, downhill skiing. I don't really know the difference between like, normal, downhill, Super G, whatever. Like, they're going really fast downhill. Like, I understand there is a difference as somebody who doesn't. That somebody who only sees the sports broadcast to them during the Winter Olympics. I don't really understand appreciate really the difference between them. I mean, like, right. So like, that's what I talked about earlier. Like, you go around the thing on skates, you go around the thing on skis, you go down a thing on skis, you go down a thing on a sled. play hockey, you know what I mean? Like, or you do like ice gymnastics. That's the variety is just bless. That's not again, it's not worse. And there are like, like you said, I'm not taking away anything from like winter sports athletes, I think you're fantastic. It's really fun and interesting. And like, it is really cool that like, cuz like I said, these are sports that are not generally just broadcast to a very large audience, right? Like, you're not really seeing ski jumping, just like on a random Saturday. You know, like, being able to showcase that I think is important, because that is a sport that's like, It's nuts. I mean, and it's a very high degree of skill. It's really cool to watch.

Brandon 43:33

But like I think the liberties are important for that reason. That's why I like them for sort of, in general, as you do get to see this other variety, especially somebody who lives in the United States, and you're just bombarded with like,

Collin 43:46

football, baseball, basketball, all the time. And it's so boring. Right? You're watching somebody do like moguls is crazy. It's like, whoa, that's so cool. It's so different. Like, as an Olympics, there's just I just wish there were more Olympic events in the wintertime. I think that's what I'm getting at here. I wish there were more cool winter sports to watch on television.

Brandon 44:17

I would make the whole winter olympics even better. I think that's what I'm getting at. We more winter sports. Bring back I saw the list this week, I texted the season of like a Winter Olympic sports that don't exist anymore. And there are some

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easy things like first of all, first of all, Can somebody explain to me why dog sled racing is not an Olympic

Brandon 44:49

sport. Bro. What, what a missed opportunity. This is why is there no dog sled racing. Ah, that would be perfect Olympic sport. Right that just needs to happen. Or, for some of these are kind of boring actually not I think about scheduling was the other one though, which is basically imagine wakeboarding, but instead it's a dude getting pulled behind a horse on skis. That's what this sport appears to be. Yeah.

Collin 45:37

And snowshoeing right. Imagine like it'd be like the long distance

Brandon 45:41

event. It'd be cool. But I do think there needs to be some kind of like, pen tat and there used to be a winter pentathlon, apparently, but these sports included cross country skiing, shooting, downhill skiing, fencing and horseback riding. So I feel like we cross out fencing and horseback riding. No, we got to get to more different well fencing is not a they haven't in the Summer Olympics

Collin 46:04

fencing back in the snow, but no, that's dumb. No, I feel like cross country skiing. Good. You could maybe do you could do like biathlon right cross country skiing and shooting downhill skiing. Then we got to get some different events in there. Because like maybe like a, like a long track skating or something I don't know about fencing, horseback riding have to give up that list because that's just not really very, very wintery snowboarding. Snowboarding, like a like a big, like just a downhill skiing. Right? Yeah, I think so. I figured like a downhill maybe not like the giant slalom. No, so I figured you should cross country ski. You definitely downhill ski. What else would you do? I think the jet in your in your mom would be good. I think okay. Yeah. But then it's like, are you gonna have to do like, I don't think you're gonna put them on a sliding sport. Like, sled. Yeah, cuz that's too specialized. Specialized.

47:07

They're not doing skeleton. They're not doing ski jumping. True. They couldn't do ski jumping. Could like the small hill.

Collin 47:15

Yeah, because when you train for this, you don't just like, show up and do it. Right. Like I'm not rocking up the Olympics. Like winter Pentathlon time, boys. Let's go. I will say something that they've done recently, I think they've done recently has been mixed competitions of use now. Those are cool. I saw they bring bringing more of those. And that is exciting. Because number one is more to watch. And it's just a cool thing. Right? Like, it's neat. Yeah, I have been I've been really enjoying those. And I think part of that is making time to do these more, more team based. Especially the scores and the points that come in with these have been really yeah, those are fun. I really enjoyed those.

Brandon 48:07

Yeah, I think that's true. They're more team oriented. And they're just more inclusive in general, which is good. Yeah. But yeah, I saw like, kind of the summer they did that like mixed team like

Collin 48:20

triathlon relay, which I was like, what? But like I saw another had mixed team. They didn't they have a mixed teams curling? Which, I mean, of course, why would you not? Of course, I saw one. I can't remember it was, it was the aerials. Oh, yeah, I saw that one. Yeah, we actually confused me because there was only three people on the team. And I was like, why is it not for? That seems weird anyway, like, oh, and then they also did mixed. Jumping, doing the normal Hill, jump. I think they said they had a mix, or do they? I missed that one. I think they did that one. Yeah, again, I like that. So you should be able to like a mixed surely there's got to be a mix, like cross country relay. Because I just watched the women's like

49:07

literally before we recorded the women's like 5k Cross Country relay, which is the most insane like

Collin 49:13

this, there was some terrible tactics in that race. Let's just say that. Because it is just basically cycling. I was like, Guys, why are you not going with the breakaway move? What do you got? It's too short to let them sit out there. Anyway. We're telling them how to do their job. No, I can't I'm not because I can't ski remember so like, I'm not gonna tell Sweden how to ski or I'm sorry. Sorry,

49:39

I would never do that. No. Bad news. But I mean, that would be another good opportunity for

Brandon 49:47

a mixed like, events would be really cool because those those those big relay team events are really cool, right? Like, they're super intense. Like, they're like some of the most intense events then the whole thing. Are those like big team like you said the big team aspect or everybody's doing I think it was like a Yeah, it's like that whole thing. So like

Collin 50:11

they're real tight. They're really intense. It's mixed for interesting sports watching. You know what I mean? So I think those would be those a good opportunity to expand your winter sports lineup so, Pentathlon thing, IOC we expect our check in the mail. So, you know, I am still waiting to hear back from Oh, man, my brain just went completely silent on this. Wow. Um, oh, my goodness. Anyway. Hallmark, I'm still waiting. Oh, right. Yeah. Anyway. Yeah, that's that's the old episode, man. Come on. Maybe waiting all of them. That's true. But oh, I will say also, one thing that they are trying to do that, at least I've noticed is, you know, they they're having the commentators in there, where they're not just like the boring like, sports reporters anymore. They're like, the people who normally report on snowboarding, or whatever. Who do like during the other season. i If you pay attention to this, yeah. Right. We were watching one. And my goodness, this guy's definitely used to like, talking over like, the X Games. The way he was coming out at it. And it would just threw me off. Because like, that's not how Olympic reporting is supposed to be. And he's like, actually, yeah, it is how that's literally my favorite thing about the Summer Olympics is rad games is swimming commentary. Because like, nobody gets excited about swimming is that man? Right? He's just like, literally screaming at look. Like, exactly. That's the kind of that's what you need to come to. That's how you get excited. You need that color commentary to get to where you're going. Right? Well, I think it's important to and I like how they're, they're bringing in more people who are like, actually know what the heck that's watching to? That's because I need their expertise. Exactly. Yeah. And and who do this who commentate and report on the sport, during other times of the year,

Brandon 52:23

is very helpful to Yeah, cuz you they know about, like, I noticed that like, apparently, these NBC people have been commentating on some, like, other cross country skiing races, because they are like, really talking about like, the strengths of like, all these people. That's cool that you know who these people are. And you can communicate to me that this is a big deal. They're like, they're in third. Because I wouldn't know that otherwise.

Collin 52:54

Yeah. I think that's the other thing, too, of just how technical most of the Winter Olympics are. As far as like, scoring and points, I could be wrong, but I feel like they're not. It's like when it comes to they're not as bad as the Summer Olympics are points. Like, you really have to pay attention and know why certain things are happening. And where the point scores coming from the winter versus most of the summer sports. And that's true. Because like, like you were there are some of them are like just really strange. Like, again, the poster child for strange Olympic sports. The by athalon. Like, what I need to know about these things, because I don't understand what's happening at the time. Like, I mean, I've watched it enough now that I had no, because I always tried to watch that sport, because it's just so fascinating to me, are like, little tiny things make huge differences in there. And it's crazy, but like, yeah, it's very nuanced. I think a lot of them are much more nuanced. So there's like these little teeny things happen. That make it just crazy. So, yes. I'm gonna come up with an official submission for winter Pentathlon when I think about this. Because I'm having trouble here. We're gonna watch some more Olympics and I'm going to come up with something. Aaron, what do you think? What would you suggest for a winter taekwondo edition. Me to add? I feel like we need cross country skiing, downhill skiing and like some sort of skating, like speed skating event.

Aaron 54:51

That's three. What else for? I I think your heels videos where people go and they like ate on top of like, away in like Norway or something I can do like some orders are called outside like skating like on like legit ice not. Yeah okay guys or anything like that. So do like something mountain skiing or some mountain skating sorry. And then let's use let's do some little pond hockey, let's get some mystery and just just have a bunch of things, people outside through bruiser on Bruiser, hockey and all today, that's what I think. I will say,

Collin 55:46

another thing on this list, hold on, pull it back up here, I close it down. Another sport that is no longer an Olympic sport. And it was only an Olympic sport for a very short time I believe.

Brandon 56:03

Where to go? Here it is. Yeah, it's only just last metal event was 1948.

Collin 56:16

Oh. They used to be albinism. So like winter climbing. Right. You know what? Yes, that does happen. Right. Now. It does say that often ism is one of the most hazardous sports to ever be part of luck. Sure. But, but I feel like if it needs to be like reworked somehow, because we did just add sport climbing to Summer Olympics. I feel like there needs to be some sort of equivalent for the Winter Olympics. I think that'd be very interesting. I don't know exactly what you would do. Right? Because you can't it's a really hard one to do when you you can't rely on like, actual outside. Weather climbing. Right, like, Yeah, but like, try to figure out a way to kind of simulate that kind of environment into like a winter sports climbing. I think that'd be really cool. Like, that'd be interesting. That'd be a good one. So yes. Yeah, I think that I mean, as Yeah, that would be really dangerous. And it'd be so hard to predict with weather and making it predictable between or I guess, not predictable, but a repeatable, repeatable is the problem, right? Like, because like, if you put there, like, it's definitely possible for you to create a simulated like, icefall. Right, like a frozen waterfall environment. You know, I mean, yeah, but it's not repeatable in that, like, it would not be the same for every competitor. Yeah, yes. That's yeah, I need. Oh, yeah. But I mean, what I'm saying is like, you could freeze. I could freeze 30 feet of water on the side of a building. Yeah. Right. But like, can I repeat it? In the same way? No, no, no, no, that's a little bit. A little bit. janky. Right. And you can't rely on the weather. Because we were the Vancouver Olympics. And like, when was that? 2010 or whatever. Yeah, what it was like, they were like, there's literally no snow on the snowboard think it's the warmest winter in Vancouver ever. Like, oh, crap. China solves all of that all of their snow is fake. You know that? All of it? Yeah. Which is, which is crazy when you're watching something. And then the camera pans out. And it's like this white block in the middle of a brown mountain and you're like, Oh, that's right.

59:17

None of this is real. Yeah. Like, again. That's not exactly repeatable for every potential host of the Olympics.

Collin 59:33

Right? You mean, like, without getting too geopolitical here China has a lot of excess money to burn to make this look good. Well as it behooves them to do so at the center of a national audience with all their current goings on, right? So like, they worked extra hard to put on this face of like, Oh, look how great everything right you know, than if you had the Winter Olympics in Finland. Not exactly the same situation. Right, like, wow. You know?

1:00:17

But, yeah, that's the other way. That's the other the weird part is that it's hard to have outdoor winter Olympic events because outdoor winters are different.

1:00:30

Just be honest, right? Like it's a little hard with the continual global climate fluctuations as well to have reliable snow for downhills snowboarding events, like it's,

Collin 1:00:49

I guess that maybe why all the scoring for Winter Olympics is so difficult, because they had to try and come up with a way to make this standardized

Brandon 1:01:00

across conditions for the people who competing. I mean, that's true, too. Because like it is like, when with like, even with just something like the Skiing World Cup circuit, right? If you're skiing and let's say when you're skiing Canada, France, Russia, Japan.

Collin 1:01:21

Yeah. Right like that. That's infinitely different conditions, every single race, you know. So you do have to have some kind of scoring thing, right? Like

Brandon 1:01:36

to make it make sense. And to make it kind of even out right, that's what you see in those big things that do that all the time. Right. It's like flight Formula One. That's why it's so bizarre and have all these like really crazy rules, because they have to like sort of try to accommodate, like, all the 20,000 different racetracks they go to? Yep. Right, when you're going on 20,000 Different mountains. You know,

Collin 1:02:00

mountain in Italy is not the same as a mountain in Sweden. Yeah. Right. You're trying to make it repeatable, and comparable, that someone's score in one condition is directly comparable to someone else's score. Yeah. That which is kind of weird. Like, they kind of talk around that sometimes you're like, because like,

1:02:20

oh, man, they did so good on this hill last time, you know, it's kind of weird that I didn't feel good here,

Collin 1:02:26

like, well, well, I mean, not really, because maybe the snow conditions were different, or the mountain conditions were different, or the weather conditions, there's like infinite variables for an outside sporting event that can, you know, be different

Brandon 1:02:46

from place to place and a person can excel in one and then struggle in another one. I mean, that's part of the challenge of being an athlete in that event, right? Yeah, is coping with all those different weather events, right? It's the same thing like cycling, right? Because like, like, you know, a mountain in France and the mountain roads in Italy is also not the same. So like,

1:03:12

you have to be able to cope with those different environments. But that doesn't make judging the sport much more difficult.

Collin 1:03:23

Where it was variables or you can make them smaller and something like short track speed skating right? The ice and stuff will still be different like cuz every building is gonna have like their freezing system is gonna be different but it's less different then and mountainside you know, and mountainside Yeah. No, no, that's a good point. And I think yeah, that's so what we've concluded is that

1:03:57

we need more variation and they need to bring back

1:04:05

opening Yes, and I'm gonna cover the winter Pentathlon winter but that's the homework for next time. Finally, sign the ultimate winter ultimate winter pentathlon. Okay, got work we can combine that into what are your actual favorite ports, Winter Olympic sports.

1:04:39

design which tab one and five. Yeah. So you have some time to think about that a little bit. And even if you don't have time to watch, you kind of have seen them before. So you know what 20 likes so we can kind of cheat it that way. And if you don't have a lot

Collin 1:04:59

of time the website They have the balls out. That's true. They do have them all there, but as you can watch them highlights their ketchup on it. Yes, you know.

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Okay, this is good. Aaron Does that sound okay is I'm kosher for you Eric Oh, sitting there with the button Oscar. Yeah. I was like, uh, he had the same problem I had last week, I would click the button, and I started talking and I was like, it's still flashing. Oh, no, I

Collin 1:05:26

didn't click firmly. Not do that correctly. Yeah, I did it wrong. Alright. Alright. Sweet. I like that. semblance of a plan. kablam. And

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Challenge accepted. We're good to go. Okay. Yeah. Great. Well, thank you all. Very much. And, yeah, we'll, we'll be a little bit for us. It'll be a bit longer recording time, but listeners will have no idea. This is the magic of technology. That's true. They have no idea that Colin hasn't left for his trip. Oh, I. I mean, yeah. They'll never know. Right? Hey, love you guys. Thank you. And we'll do this again soon. All right, let me see you bye.

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