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SPEAKERS

Brandon, Collin,

Collin  00:04

Music. Welcome to Oh brother, a podcast where we try to figure it all out with your hosts, Brandon and Collin on this week's show, Sugar Glider lounging. Ahoy, ahoy.

Brandon  00:20

What's going on? Oh, you know, it's time to keep my nose attached to my face. Is all? Everything's fine.

00:28

Oh, no, yeah, it's alright.

Collin  00:32

I'm sorry. It's fine. And

Brandon  00:36

I was, like, feeling bad. I've had like crazy sinus like, sore throat, cough, nonsense, whatever, for like, a week. And then, like, today, I was feeling pretty good, and then I had to go outside for recess duty and the blasting wind and, like, poor air quality, dust warning. And so now I'm like, so that might also be, maybe I'll try to be quick on the draw, but it's kind of

Collin  01:04

hard to you're fine diving

01:08

way to decide, like

Collin  01:11

yesterday, yesterday was really intense with this, with the with the dust and everything. Again, like this is now, like, this is the second or third day where we had the big dust blowing through. But yesterday, I was down in done in Nixa, and was talking to some people down there. And I, like, while I was standing there, I looked out to the southwest, and I was like, that does not look good at all. That looks very bad. And as I started driving, like, driving all the way back north, it was my car was being rocked, and it was, like, all high atmosphere, dust and stuff.

Speaker 2  01:48

It was insane. Yeah. So I think it kind of got me a recess, because after that I started, like, being kind of choked and like, coughing a lot more. Like, super good this morning. Now here we are again, more pollutants in my body get out.

Speaker 3  02:07

Thanks nasal cavities for helping me stay healthy and

02:10

clean. Thanks, rude.

Speaker 2  02:13

So yeah, boo, oh no, no, yeah, I Well hope you, yeah, it's, it's

Collin  02:23

that time. I am finally starting to regain confidence in being able to do a cold open statement, because my voice is not like, like, I seriously, it's something where before it's like, if I someone was approaching me and I was going, I knew I needed to talk to them. I would do, like a pre cough to, like, clear my throat before I would say anything, because, if I just would come up, it was like a croak. I croaked a lot at people, and yes, and so yeah, I had to. I was giving a giving a presentation in town yesterday, and so I was definitely like, I drink tons of water. I have to get ready for this. I'm doing all my throat exercises on the way down, trying to be like, oh, so I'm not sputtering my way through. But I got some very interesting feedback from people that I've never gotten before, and I'm trying to square this that it's weird. We try really hard to come across as professional and polished and like, not like the other people, and we have things that other people don't, because we're a business and we take this seriously, and blah, blah, blah, and we're not just a neighbor who checks in on cats, right and throws food on the floor, and I gave a presentation, and it was, it was a to a group, and I was asking for feedback of, like, hey, like, we're kind of hitting some roadblocks here, and I need some help trying to figure out for client acquisition and blah, blah and all this stuff. And this, this lady said, Well, I'm on your website, and I don't like all of your use of stock photos. And I said, Oh, well, that's weird, because all those photos were taken on my iPhone. And she went, Oh, why? They just look like they're stock and I don't see any personality here, and I just don't she said I would buy from you, but I wouldn't buy off of your website.

Speaker 2  04:24

Interesting, yes, yes.

Collin  04:28

I was like, what does this mean? And we've never gotten this kind of feedback from before. So I'm like, I'm trying to go. Why are your pictures

Speaker 2  04:37

so good? Dang it. They need to be like, bad, right? Worst Picture, yes.

Collin  04:44

And the more this lady talked and gave me critiques, that is the exact sentiment. Why is this so good? You need to be less polished. You need to be less professional. Why can't you have? Basically, I was like, at some point she's going to tell me, why don't I have? Spelling errors on my website,

Brandon  05:03

you know, like, oh, because your sister in law would beat you, that's why. So that would be exactly

05:11

full wrath,

Collin  05:12

that's right. And I just I it's been swimming in my head ever since then, and because, also, coupled with this, I've been trying to get out and, like, network with people. And, you know, hi, what do you do? Oh, gosh, right. Like, do my thing. And I actually had two people on the same day say, oh, oh. So, like, one guy, I know I went in. It's a pet related thing. I know it's, I know it's a franchise. And I because I we, I look at everybody, and I know this is part of a franchise. And he's looking at the card that I hand him, and he goes, You know, my wife and I were looking at franchise opportunities, and I didn't see this one as an option, talking about our business. And I went, because it's me, it's my and so we're not a franchise. And he went, Oh, huh. And then I was talking to a realtor later in that same day, and and she goes, oh, oh. She goes, Okay. And, and this, you're part of a franchise, as in, like a obviously. And I went, No, no, no. And so I've got all and then, so that happened last week, and so I go into this presentation, and now this lady's like, You're too polished, your photos are too good, your spelling is on point, and all the grammar makes sense. You've got this all like you, you have policies and procedures, what is

06:37

and I'm like, I'm like,

Collin  06:38

I'm I don't, I'm sorry, like, I don't,

Speaker 2  06:42

I don't know, so I don't we. I've

Collin  06:46

been, I've been, I've been sitting with that, and I just don't, it's been weird about how, like the perception of that, because I've, I've long held some opinions on, like, how you present yourself and like, what that conveys to people and and sometimes what sells and connects is more of the story than the credentials. Even though people say they care about the the credentials and they care about safety, if and this goes across industries, like, if you sell a good story, have a good sob story, have a good background, people will fall they'll follow you and do whatever it's so it's this thing that I'm trying to, like, wrap my head around of, how do I take this? And I don't know, like, shave off the edges, inject more personality without it just being about Megan and I, because it's not anymore, right? Like all of our employees, like, I can't just be like, we'll walk your dog, because it's like, it's not going to be me. Yeah? There's like, I have people look, here they are, right? It's like, unless it is, and then everything has gone horribly wrong, yeah?

Speaker 2  08:02

Like, so I Megan,

Collin  08:06

and I have been just like, going back and forth about this, and I'm like, I don't, I think I'm just going to take what she said and put it off to the side, but I'm not going to forget about it. Um, I'm just going to keep it over here because maybe, maybe it is off putting. Maybe they think it's too corporate or something like that. I don't know. Like, I just it's very odd.

Speaker 2  08:27

That is odd. I don't really know. Yeah, I don't really know what to do with that information. That's very strange. Like, like, I don't know what they what do you want? Like, why would it not be like, Oh, no, you look like a professional website like this, like this.

Collin  08:53

This is what I am so confused on. And I'm just like, oh, okay, fine. You know what? I guess I give up. I just, I thought that's what you wanted. I thought that's what you said you wanted.

Speaker 2  09:08

But really not, I don't. Oh, how else change?

Collin  09:14

Tell me so that's what that's kind of been. My head swimming week and then identity crisis, yeah, I know, I know this. No, that's why I told Megan. I was like, I feel like that. If I lit, if I let that sink its teeth into my the back of my brain, I will, I will literally start questioning absolutely everything. And I did, I did have, I did have half of mine to jump onto Fiverr and throat give the of somebody my logo. And I said, I want you to make this, but just a little worse,

Speaker 2  09:52

pretend you're in first grade and make this. That's exactly

Collin  09:57

what I was. Thinking of like, pretend you've never been in Photoshop before. Make this right? Like, yeah,

Speaker 2  10:09

exactly. I mean, I don't think you'd have to go on to Fiverr for that. I think you could probably. I think there's some people in your house that are non graphic designers, but Artie that you can feel like got an idea, it's true.

Collin  10:29

As part of Noah's one class that he's taking, they're doing it's called, it is called, I think it is called entrepreneurship, or something close to that. Anyway, they he has to develop a product or service and sell it at the fair at the end of the semester, and, oh, he has come up with dog treats. And so today, he had to go in and present his his poster that he was going to have for this. And he definitely enlisted the help of his big sister to make this a thing and outline it. And so we talked about, like, here are the four elements it needs to have. You need to have the name of your company, what you're selling, probably some prices. And then you know how to Oh, and then, like a tagline of like, why people should buy so they came up with their tagline was, your dog will love it with lots of o's and v's in there. It's a lot of O's. That's yeah. That's,

Speaker 2  11:41

well, what are they not to okay, I don't, I don't want to give away any trade secrets. Oh, right. Oh, you don't have to divulge any secret formulas here. Okay, that's fine. But like, what are these trees? Like? How are they created again without you have to give away the secret 11 herbs and spices and all that stuff. Okay, I don't even know that. No, it's fantastic. That's good.

Collin  12:07

It's good. Um, what it what, what they, what they, what they are. They're just i. So I'm also trying to balance this between, like, how much do I give a seven year old and, like, turn it all over to him, versus, like, a little bit like guidance and stuff. So what I did was I went and I found because also I didn't want, I didn't want to, what I wanted to do initially was to sit down with him and, like, pull up some websites and like, walk through individual ingredients and like recipes and then have him tell me which one he wanted. However, I was terrified that, of course, that he would, like, pick the one that needed, I don't know, some like, random ingredient from Peru, and he's like, this is the thing, right? Being like, Oh, actually, just kidding. So, so when I tell you pre screen

12:54

your websites, right? Okay, don't look at not this one. But

Collin  12:58

so that's, that's actually what I ended up doing. I actually just went and found four different recipes, printed them off, and took them to him and said, Hey, here's four. I think what, what you should do is you should pick the two that you want to try and make to sell. So that's what he did. And he picked, like a, like a pumpkin one and a blueberry one, I think, or a peanut butter one.

13:25

How does the have

13:26

you made them yet? Have you given it to the tester in the house?

Collin  13:30

We have, we have done the next step. That's, yeah, we have a poster, though.

13:38

Okay, good step. Poster, important

Collin  13:44

so yes, that is, that's our next step is to then go and start making them, because I think still have a couple weeks to do this, but we need to start kind of product testing them. And so what I'll do is we'll go and go to the store and, you know, buy all the stuff. But I want him to see, like, oh, yeah, here's the cost, right? Like, here's the cost. And because then he is going to sell these for like, actual money at the end of the thing, and, and so it's like, here's, here's what your product cost, and here's how much time you spent to make these. And now we're going to go sell them and see if we can how much we make back. And so that'll be part of our lesson back at home, of just here's here's kind of how all that got gets put together in the end, and see, see how that turns out.

Brandon  14:42

This nice, yeah, I do think the important step here is to see which one cinnamon likes better, and see, well, like, like that could be like a slogan, like, cinnamon

Collin  14:54

approved. Cinnamon approved. I think what we are going to find is that. Women will, like all of them the audience,

Brandon  15:02

your don't tell your customers that. Don't tell your customers. My dog eats literally everything. Okay?

15:10

My dog eats trash.

Brandon  15:12

My dog eats trash out of the neighbor's yard. Don't put that in there. Okay? You want, you want more positive spin on this, right? Like my, my dog loves my dog loves this more than my neighbor's trash. They go.

Collin  15:31

You know what? That's a good, good point. Like, better than neighbor Tre, better than dead rabbits,

Speaker 2  15:38

better than dead rabbits. That is dang they go. I think that's excellent. That is an excellent tagline, right? I like it. We'll see. We'll see. If that sticks. I don't know. Oh, my goodness. Oh, you might have what Liam Neeson and Leonardo DiCaprio coming after you, though, right? Can't insult the dead rabbits that way. Boom. It's a deep cut joke, Ladies

16:08

Gentlemen, where you weren't ready for that. We're ready for a gangs in New York joke to just drop in your lap.

Collin  16:16

Was not expecting that. I Yeah,

Speaker 2  16:23

man, that's a good movie. That's, it's a weird movie. It's a,

Collin  16:27

okay, it's a weird movie. It's, I think it's an underappreciate, I don't know, I don't know how it's appreciated in broader culture, but it's a good one. I like it.

16:34

I feel like

16:35

I haven't watched a movie a long time, because it upsets

Speaker 2  16:38

me, right? Oh, it's, it's a, it's a movie that both makes you happy and upsets me to no end, right? Because it reminds you, number one, first and foremost, that if there's anything underappreciated in Hollywood, it's Daniel Day Lewis, okay, we talk about people like being good actors, right? And, and whatever people always talk about, like Tom Hanks and, yeah, yeah, Tom Hanks is fine, okay, but Tom Hanks did star in The Polar Express movie, right? And also, like Joe Versus the Volcano exists. All right, that movie is weird. Okay, I don't I don't really know how we justify that, but Daniel Day Lewis, he's like, the most genius actor I've never seen Daniel Day Lewis in a bad movie, right? My friends and I used to play this game where we, like, say, an actor, and then we talk about, like, we debate their worst movie. I don't, I can't figure out what Daniel I don't know if Daniel Day Lewis has a bad movie. Well, I think you need to. I think you need to, is it here? So here's the difference,

Collin  18:00

has Daniel Day Lewis's, has all his performances been good, or is he is, are the movies that surround him always amazing? Like, I think those are two. I

18:10

think because he doesn't do just like tons of movies anyway, he's never

Speaker 2  18:13

done just like tons of movies, right? Even, like, like, I watched like the boxer, right? A long time ago. This is just like a random, like, I don't even know, right, teen boxer from Belfast, right? You know? Yeah, surprised. But like, this movie is not, like, super exciting, I don't remember. It's not like, very fast paced or whatever, but it's like, a good movie, and Daniel Day Lewis is good in this movie, right? Like so I I don't know, because have I seen every Daniel Day Lewis movie ever? Definitely not. Okay. This is no is a hard No, sure. But out of the ones I've seen, none of them are bad, which is, is rare, right? This is unheard of, right, unheard of other people like name other actors there, there will be a clunker in there, right? Excluding. The rules are excluding, like, they have to have made X number of movies, right? Because otherwise everyone just says, like, oh, James Dean, like, Okay, well, that doesn't count. He never got a chance to make a bad movie because he made like, three and then died. So like, that doesn't that doesn't count. Can't count him. Okay, you have to have made like, X number of movies to play this game right to qualify, sure the round, but, but I think Daniel Day Lewis is one of the few people that I could never figure out if they'd actually made a bad movie. I don't know. Listeners let us know. People more familiar. There with the Daniel Day Lewis repertoire here. But like, they're, they're all pretty good, right? Like, yeah, yeah,

Collin  20:10

because he was in, I don't know. I'm just, I'm just pulling up, uh, what he's been, man, let me see here. Uh, yeah, he was in. Was he in that I don't know, where is this actual list here? So what I don't know, opening up IMDb, how old is this man? That's the other thing of I just, I could never, I never know, because he doesn't. That is also true. Looked the same age everywhere. Okay, yeah. So is, yeah. I mean his most recent movie, 6767

20:45

Yeah, okay, yeah. Most

Collin  20:47

recent movie, Phantom thread was back in 2017

20:51

Yeah, yeah.

Collin  20:52

So yeah. He does not have a long discography, whatever, whatever, Lincoln nine, there will be blood. The Ballad of Jack and Rose Gangs of New York, the boxer 1997

21:08

Yes, oh, the crucible

Collin  21:11

is the name of the Father, the age that's Crystal's good one. I've seen that one another. Good one. Age of Innocence, last of the most humans, right? Yes, yeah. I have not seen my left foot, but it

Speaker 2  21:25

has 98% on Rotten Tomatoes. Okay, that, think about that. Yeah. Somebody likes this movie. Keep

Collin  21:32

going back here he was in 1980 two's Gandhi, um, she's

Speaker 2  21:37

also, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean they go, yeah. Is Daniel Day Lewis, the best actor ever.

Collin  21:44

I think, I

Speaker 2  21:46

think hit rate. Is he going definitely, yes, going on the list, right? Like, don't know.

Collin  21:55

I like it. I like this. Like, what I'm seeing here, if we can get this, I'm pasting stuff into our document, and it might, the document is refusing to not be

Speaker 2  22:12

bold, so we may have to make it another one again, because it's kind of enormous. It's, it's just, it's like, I'm like, No, don't be bold. And it's like, what if? What if I, what if I did? What if I was only the second time, second continuous

Brandon  22:30

google doc made of the show notes of this show that's been running for a long time now, maybe

Collin  22:37

overburdened. I mean, we are sitting at 100 it's, yeah, this is our second document. Our second document is 119 pages. Yeah, and I did do a calculation. We're coming up on, we're coming up on five and a half years. Oh, there you go. Did? I did not, did not expect that. But yeah, this episode, I think, according to my calculations. And if I can count right and keep me direct, episode

Speaker 2  23:05

like, yeah, 283 right? Wow, yeah, yeah, that's uh,

Collin  23:14

goodness. Before you know

Speaker 2  23:15

it, you'll be able to listen to us for every single day for an entire year. How exciting would that be?

Collin  23:21

Why? Oh, my goodness,

23:22

literally zero people are excited about that. But

Speaker 2  23:27

it's plausible to do that. Plausible every day you get, yeah, all that, all that very brand new, but

Collin  23:35

again, both, all currently, current, former future, whatever, yeah, oh, man, I missed, I missed our, our library book sale this year. Oh no, I know. I did not go and load up. It was funny. The first day of the sale, MEGAN'S MOM went and they went, Where's where's Collin? It's Colin coming. And I'm ashamed to say, I just, I have not had time to go over so it wrapped up. I think last week I just, I just came to mind, because I just turned and over here I have some of the books I could put my hand to. One of them is various sales.

24:22

They're all the old books that

Collin  24:23

nobody wanted to

24:25

to have

Collin  24:28

for many reasons. Yeah, like this is the one. This book is titled, 15 decisive battles of the world by Sir Edward S Creasy

Speaker 2  24:41

from 1940 that is an extraordinarily British book title, if I ever heard one like

Collin  24:53

holy Collin. Now I will have to say that this is a reprint, because this was. Uh, originally published in 1851

25:07

Scott, 1851

Collin  25:13

Oh, so do you want me to and I haven't actually have not gotten into this, but what I think I need to do, I will read you the chapters for each of the great battles of the world, if you, if you are so interested.

Speaker 2  25:27

Oh, of course, yes, give us the the Table of Contents here. Okay, okay,

Collin  25:34

hold on. Hold on. Oh, I've got stalling.

Speaker 2  25:38

Okay, okay, okay. So here we are. The first chapter marathon. Okay, that that's all right, yes, okay, okay,

25:49

quite old, but okay, yes, you know,

Collin  25:51

fine. Then we get

Speaker 2  25:53

then we get Syracuse, okay, okay, then we get Arbella from 331 BC, I don't know that. I don't know about that. What is that one?

Collin  26:05

I don't know this. Okay, so under each chapter heading, okay, under each chapter heading, it has a line. This is the one for marathon, synopsis of events between the Battle of Marathon and the defeat of the Athenians at Syracuse. Then you get to Syracuse, and it says, synopsis of the events between the defeat of the Athenians at Syracuse and the Battle

26:25

of Arbela. That's very helpful.

Collin  26:33

I don't I'm not turning to chapter three. Then we get to matarsis.

26:39

Chapter Five is Arminius.

Collin  26:43

Chapter Six, the kalons. I think that's what is.

Brandon  26:48

Oh. Arbela is Alexander the Great King Darius. Oh, that sounds familiar, but that's not the other. That's not the name that it goes by this the Wikipedia listing is the Battle of

Speaker 2  27:00

gauguinla, well, say they

Collin  27:04

need to take that up with Sir Edward Creasy, yeah, I don't know he has some serious opinions about this confusing, but yeah. Well, you know history, they changed names. You know they things. Okay, then they get to the kalonz, H, A, l, o, n, s and 451,

Speaker 2  27:23

okay, then we get to the Battle of Tours. That's okay, okay, oh, the

Collin  27:29

Battle of Hastings. Okay,

27:31

big one gigs. Then we get to

Brandon  27:33

why in English, you have two words for a different word for beef and one for cow. Okay, good job. That's

27:39

why. Okay,

Collin  27:42

ooh. Then we get to Orleans with Joan of arcs, victory and hey, oh, sorry, I need to take a water break. This is getting intense again. Oh, even better, we move on to the Spanish Armada, 1588, oh, blin Heim 1701.

Speaker 2  28:00

I don't know that one. Pol toa from 1706

Collin  28:06

sartoga, 1777 Hey, Saratoga. Saratoga. Oh, sorry, yes, aha, yeah, sorry, I missed an A there. Valmi vomi, okay. And then Battle of Waterloo in 1815 some things that have might been, you know, that have not on this list, I think are a bit interesting.

Speaker 2  28:34

But, well, yeah, but I mean, this is a there's also a very weird times fan right to go from like Greece to Napoleon and then be like, yes, we'll stop there

Collin  28:54

and watch what I mean. If

28:55

this book was originally written in, what

Collin  28:57

year did you say? This was originally written in 1851

Speaker 2  29:01

Okay, so they were right, you know, right before a lot of new ones started kicking off, right like, that's where they kind of did so they make sense that they missed a few the more reason, because that was right before, sorry, go ahead. Oh, that's why I was saying right before a lot of battles started occurring everywhere. Yes, interesting,

Collin  29:25

interesting, man, these people are ballsy. Okay, so sir, Edward Creasy died in 1872 so just 21 years after this book was published originally, they continued to publish this and they added whole attendant appendix here on the back that says, post Creasy battles. Oh,

29:48

they all see they were, they were thinking about this.

Collin  29:52

But interestingly, they went back and they they went back a little bit further, because they went to to notch, to launch of 1522, Oh, okay, which is I'm actually very interested in that one and reading them. And then they added Quebec, ayatuko. Then here's Gettysburg, Vicksburg, Sedona, dot grave, a lot sedan. And then Mukden in 1905

Speaker 2  30:22

that's latest entry here. Interesting, wow. Interesting five. 1905

Collin  30:30

Yeah. Oh, this is cool. Oh, and he gives his own I've actually okay. So, being perfectly honest, I have just now opened this book.

30:41

It's okay. In

Collin  30:43

the beginning of this, it says why they're each decisive. And I want to read to you what Creasy says about why marathon was decisive. The day of Marathon broke forever the spell of Persian invincibility, which had paralyzed men's mind. It generated among the Greeks the spirit which beat back Xerxes and afterwards led to Xenophon and Alexander in terrible retaliation through their Asiatic campaigns. It secured for mankind the intellectual treasures of Athens, the growth of free institutions, the liberal enlightenment of the Western world, and the gradual ascendancy for many ages of the great principles of European civilization go Creasy there

Speaker 2  31:27

interesting. And why people run marathons and why people run for thought, yeah, modern endurance athletics, that's really the other Yes, yes, yes, yes. And

Collin  31:48

actually, this is very interesting. I should actually bring this down to the kids we because in our unit in history, we just went through they just went through marathon. And I had all this sitting up here, and I didn't even talk about it. Oh, my

Speaker 2  32:02

rat, yeah. And what

Collin  32:06

other books do I have on myself anyway? Yeah, no, the one that I like bought, and I was like, Oh, this is really cool. And then I stopped reading, and I just put it back on myself. It's called ancient life in Mexico and Central America by Hewitt. This very, not a kindly look at the People's industry, yeah,

32:25

Central America. I bet,

32:29

what year was that one published? Absolutely,

Collin  32:31

yeah. Let me pull this one out. Yeah, yeah. Edgar Lee Hewitt, Sorry, bud, but

Speaker 2  32:37

not, not a good look. Hold on. Let me pull this out. I'm doing this with the life this book. This one was originally published.

Collin  32:47

Hold on, I'm getting there. Very gentle.

Speaker 2  32:53

Um, where are you? Um, and this is,

Collin  32:58

makes for great radio. Oh, oh yeah, hiding, copyright 1933

33:04

oh yeah, oh yeah. Definitely not good. Then, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's

Collin  33:13

yeah, that's pretty bad, yeah, oh man, let me hear, we see what, what they what, what he's like. It's like first chapter, not off to a good start. That's all I'm going to

33:27

say. But no, I can imagine, not. I imagine it's pretty rough, like,

Speaker 2  33:37

anyway, yeah, well, my again, not very eventful things happening in my life, generally, just school and blah, blah, blah, however, my current Internet obsession for last weekend was, your man, Ed. Pratt, you know Ed, I don't you aware of Ed Pratt, right? I do not know Ed Pratt, so British guy, obviously English dude here, famous for unicycling the circumference of the globe, right around the world on a unicycle. This is his big claim to fame from a couple years ago. That was him. Gosh, yeah, that was him. How do you do that? I don't know. Well, Ray, I guess one pedal stroke at a time. I don't really know. Oh my gosh, yeah, yeah, yeah, that was a

Collin  34:34

so you fell down a rabbit hole with him in that you well.

Speaker 2  34:37

So I wasn't watching the unicycles because I sort of knew about the unicycle ones from just from before, right? But his current videos series that he's got going on, here he is, uh, he is following the Thames River from source to sea without leaving the river, right? So he's like kayaking the Thames from the head. To the ocean. This is his current thing. He's been going on for, like, his video series. This guy going on for the last couple months. This is what he's this was his latest, like, adventure thing. And I think part six is gonna be out soon, but it's not which is the final part. It's not out yet, but, oh, I caught up on all the other part five. So it's very interesting. Number one in that his challenge was that while traveling, he cannot leave the river. So even in the beginning part, when it's like, not there, just like, walk. That makes sense, right? Yeah, he was like, walking and swimming for the first, like, long time, I can't remember, like, almost 12 kilometers. I think maybe he can obviously, like, get out to go to bed and like, short stuff, but like, for to make forward progress, he doesn't leave the river. So it's just interesting to see him traveling through, like, the British countryside, the 25,000 like, locks that they have just everywhere, right? Because they have a lock, lock system, right? So he's got to, like, get out, work the lock, you know, do thing. Sometimes he just paddles in when there's other boats, and then they just, they do the lock thing. The lock keeper lets him through, or whatever. But

36:29

so that part is pretty interesting. And just the again, like, anytime there's a video of people like walking through the English countryside.

Speaker 2  36:43

It's a very interesting juxtaposition to like, if this was an American experience, right? Because these people see him like wandering. He's just like walking through a river in the middle of a village. And they're like, Are you right? What are you doing? And then he tells him, and they think it's cool, and then, like, invite them into their house for tea, sure? Whereas, if this was like an American experiment,

Brandon  37:10

it would be a lot of yelling about property lines, and this is my property right? So I'm going to call the police on you, because the British have, like, the right to, I don't know what's called, like, the right to roam or whatever. Oh, where they have, like, they have all these, like, walking paths and things that just like,

Speaker 2  37:31

go all over the place, right? And I've seen him on the that geo guesser guy. He does things like this too, where he just, like, goes and walks through the countryside, but like, there's just like walking paths, and you can just, like, walk through people's fields, and it's like, fine, as long as you're on the prescribed path, right? Sure, it's just like a normal thing that they do. And it's really weird just to see that experience and think about, like, Man, that was in Missouri, this would, this would not go so well for everybody, right? Like, there'd be a lot more shouting and potentially shooting. Like, it's crazy.

Collin  38:16

I actually we had to in our little town. We were just out taking care of a dog, and I had to our team member was approached by a nearby a neighbor, because we were walking in a lane right a little in between two homes, kind of in the country. And the neighbor came over and was very not okay that we were there and was kind of getting accusatory of, like, you know, trespassing, and it's private property and blah, blah, blah, blah. I was like, no, like, whoa, clearly labeled here. I don't know how many trespasses you get, or, you know, thieves that that walk around in a bright neon orange traffic. You know, vest here, buddy. But why don't you

39:03

just back off? Yeah, it's crazy. Like, I don't Well, and what I like about this,

Collin  39:14

that kind of thing that this guy's doing. And there was the other guy who ran across, did you say the guy who ran across Africa, right? He was doing that. Oh yeah.

Brandon  39:21

He's apparently going to start something new in New Zealand soon. Oh my gosh, yeah, which is less long, but much more mountainy, so we'll see how that but like, yeah.

Collin  39:32

Well, you know again, what I like about that this stuff is just the still trying to do hard things, right? Like, I really like that. Of there are still people out there trying to push the boundaries, see what's possible, even though it's like, I know, like the explorers of old, not to get, you know, over romanticize this. And speaking of late, 1800 It's early 1900s but really just going, Yeah, it's nice to see, you know, people out trying to do these things. Because I don't think that that's, I don't feel like a lot of people do that much anymore. Obviously, not because why would you it's hard.

Speaker 2  40:18

I mean, yeah, but it's just, it's also just like, so random. Like, oh yeah, I'm just gonna, you know, follow this river. That's just like, like, a, it's a very like, I don't know, almost like, whimsical thing to do. Like, sounds like, like, everybody should just be able to do that. I want to follow this river, see where it goes. Like, yeah. No, why is this a problem? Right? Like, this is it's okay, you should do that. That sounds cool, right? Like,

Collin  40:49

now, now that you mentioned that I did, I did have that feeling of, I'd have to describe this bit to the kids when we were on the James River and we were kayaking, right, and we're going down the river, and they had that question, well, who owns that over there, right? And who owns that over there on the side of the river? And I'm like, well, somebody does. And then they said, Well, who owns the river? And it was like, ah, yeah, some of those people think they do. Some people think they do. They're wrong. Don't, because Missouri law right didn't get into that, but basically, I was just like, No, we can be here. This is our river, right? This is everybody's river. We all get to be here. Now. You have to access the river through the correct points, and not that stuff, but the river is here for everybody to use and enjoy. And I while we're going down the river, and oh my gosh, did I tell you that we saw a giant Eagle's Nest. Bald eagles nest in a huge cypress tree. Yes, we're going down the river. Oh, right, because last time I described how Megan almost got lost and we didn't have to go find her. But yes, like, okay, she's fine, obviously. But we came around this bed and we look over, right? Yeah, good news. And in the field, there's this huge cypress tree, and white smack dab in it is in the crux of the of the tree is a massive bald Eagle's Nest, and then way over on the arm is just sitting one bald eagle. And I was like, That is bad. Like, oh my goodness, that is so cool. And I realized, like, yeah, that's something that's hard to communicate to the kids. Of like, No, you have no idea, like, when I was young, bald eagle, what? Like, like, eagle to Eagle? Days took? Yeah, they were, like, years, whatever, not in Missouri. It was really crazy when they started to show up. And now that, like, we just see them driving down to dads, they're just kind of, that's pretty nuts. All over the place now, and I can see here where I, you know, there is a bald Eagle's Nest just sitting right over there, like that is so cool. And after that moment I did sit back and was able to to be very, like, I don't know, very present, just on the river, of like, Man, this is, this is such a cool thing that we do get to do now, again, we don't have all the like, you know, right to Rome like things, but like, I'm on a river, and we just get to do this, you know. And so I turned to kids, I was like, we just get to do this. This is the, like, the access to the river is just, can you get a boat here, right? Like, that's and, sure, that's a lot that goes into that. But, like, here it is, we get to enjoy it and take care of it and everything like that. And it just, I had all that running through my head as soon as I saw that bald eagle, because that was just, like, a boom, like, right in the face of experience,

43:46

that's pretty good. I guess

Brandon  43:51

sometimes we have a like, there's a good guy who has, like, a big pond out in his like field, right? And every once while on where we're driving to work, there's just an eagle, just an eagle, just like, standing

Speaker 2  44:03

there looking in the water. It's like, what's just been like, I think there's some trying to be like, is there fish in here? What's going on? Like, what's up? Like, but it's always like, like, you said it's like, a take you back a second. Like, whoa. I Yeah, cuz you're just so like, in my mind, you're so ingrained to, like, not see that because they were so critically endangered for such a long amount of time, and they were none

44:38

in Missouri at all, anywhere. So like to see him just like, chillin in the dude's field is kind of jarring, right? Like, ah, what are you doing? Like, yeah, yeah. To be

Collin  44:53

able to just yeah, it just came around that corner, and at first you're like, what is that? Oh, my God. What if that's what that is? Well,

Brandon  45:01

also, they're actually enormous, right? And you don't really think about that, because you don't see them, at least here, you don't see them

Speaker 2  45:07

very often. So, like, you don't think about how big they are, no, until you see it, and you're like, what is that giant thing? Oh, Lord, it's a bird. Oh my gosh, yes, yep.

Collin  45:22

Because again, you have that feeling of going now I know, based off of scale and distance, that that is a massive tree, and to see how much of that tree is taken up by nest is, is, is terrifying, right? And then also to look over to the right in the tree branch and see a still, a humongous bird sitting over there. You're like, yeah, yeah, okay.

Speaker 2  45:47

I mean, in in Missouri, seeing a bird that is like, three feet tall is shocking, right? Like, there's nothing even remotely close to that size. No, yeah, we're near here, right? And any sort of bird even remotely close to this big, and then to look over and see a bird that is, yeah, close to three feet tall, is, like, it's surprising, right in this the eyes. You were like, wow, what kind of monstrous, right? We think about it like, that's a bird that's huge, because we think bird, right? Most birds you see right here, like a blue jay or Cardinal or a bluebird,

Collin  46:37

right? You may see, you know, a vulture, right? But, yeah, or, like, a

Speaker 2  46:43

red tail hawk, maybe. But they, that's not, you know,

Collin  46:47

they're not as imposing in stature, right? Like, they're not as in, like, oh, kind of that gigantic, right? Yeah, and, and sometimes, like, and again, that was up in a tree, and I'm just, you know, we're just on the road, and we're the river, and you see that sometimes I do see them on the side of the road, and I think what is shocking there is when they, when they're sitting on top of a deer carcass, and you're like,

47:18

Oh, okay, okay. I'm

Collin  47:20

just gonna keep, keep on moving. Sorry to disturb you. Yeah, yeah. It was pretty, pretty wild. But that's, that's how Ed Pratt, how do you how far he is? How's he

Speaker 2  47:35

now? Well, I think, I mean, I think by now he's actually done, but I don't remember where he stopped the last video. Like, I don't remember where the video ended. You know, he was not in London yet. I think he was somewhere around, I want to say he was in Oxford, maybe. So he's at least in Oxford. I know that in the video, okay? And again, his whole point is just to see if he can do it, yeah, because he is not an experienced kayakist, right? Which is also interesting. He did one before, I think, where he tried to do he did, like, a shorter river that was, like, closer to his house, or whatever he just did, like to see, to do the source, to see in that river, like his first time, yeah, and I think he took what he did that time, it was like, maybe a year ago or something, he sort of took that and was like, Okay, here's all the things that went bad. Uh, now let's do it again, and we'll do it on a bigger river and with, like, more appropriate preparation and stuff like that. Sure. So that was kind of his, but I can't again, he's kind of an adventurous person. Again, you're gonna unicycle around the world like, you know, you know, you're, uh,

Collin  48:59

you're a bit more hearty than us normal.

Speaker 2  49:03

Yeah, you got some, got some grit, a little bit. So that was his uh thing there. So I was just like, watch, I think I watched all of I just like, watch a bunch of once it was like, wow, this is kind of cool and kind of crazy. Yeah, I really like that a lot. And again, it made me think of that joke, though, like, how Europeans say, Americans think 200 years is a long time, and Europeans think 200 miles is a long way. Oh yeah, because he's talking about, like, how far he had to go. And I was like, it's like nothing. What do you mean? I mean on a Reaper paddling, it's a long way, right? But like, in terms of actual distance, was like, that's not that

Collin  49:54

far. Man, any anyway, I. Uh, yeah, you know, it's

Speaker 2  50:05

definitely shapes perspectives on a lot of things, that's for sure, when you have that kind of space, true to move in Rome. But anyway, that's what I was watching mostly this week, and so I'm just waiting for the last video to come out. We'll see how it goes. Yeah, okay, I'm assuming he's alive, because he posts all the videos. So, oh, probably made it, but we'll see. I would see him get to the end, you know, soon, boom. Well, I'm gonna add that to a watch list.

Collin  50:45

Oh, I, I did. I did my first I did a Meet Greet for a pet that I have never

Speaker 2  50:52

taken care of before. Really, I'm curious pet

Speaker 4  51:00

you've never can't be a groundhog or a prey dog. That's not a prairie dog, exactly

Speaker 2  51:06

a prey dog. Does it have feather? No, no. Oh, no.

Collin  51:12

Scales. Uh, no. Scales. Oh, this hell. I've got to be honest, I am surprised that we have not cared for one of these over the years. It was indeed one more guys.

51:24

I mean, does it Slither? But you said no

Collin  51:28

scales, no swimming either. No swimming, no

51:30

swimming. Does it have hooves?

51:34

Nope, nope, no. Okay,

Collin  51:36

again, I'm surprised. I'm surprised that we have never taken care of a sugar glider before. Oh,

51:45

nice. Yeah, very nice,

Brandon  51:47

very nice, cool. I'm very excited about these now. I didn't Sugar Glider chinchilla. That would have been, you know, what? The Heck yeah, very well,

Collin  51:56

pretty fun. Yeah? Well, again, it's like, but like, I

Speaker 2  52:04

was like, instantly put like, oh, like, the

Collin  52:07

reason that we really need to come over a they need to be fed and watered and cleaned up and things like that. They're older, right? So these are also kind of like entering geriatric here, Sugar Gliders so they're way more calm. They're way more relaxed. You don't they're not like, bolting out, like, right? The owners have done a really good job of socializing them, because sugar gliders are actually pretty well known to get really cranky if you don't hold them, and then they get, like, extremely bitey.

52:38

But mostly,

Collin  52:40

mostly, we need to come over to brush their teeth. Interesting. So twice a week they brush them, and I haven't held a small rodent like this in many times. Yeah, time, right? But immediately, when they're like, here's like, here's how you hold their body, and then you put their head in between your thumb and your index and your middle finger to create a triangle. So you're like,

53:05

your muscle memory kicked in. You're

Collin  53:07

like, boom, got this. I, I, this is perfect. Give me the Q tip. I will brush these. I

53:15

really. Guess

Collin  53:17

here's how I hold and get a little bit of the scruff in there. And you get their head and think, like, I'm I've got this. So it was really fun. And getting to hear the owners, they are lifelong Sugar Glider owners, yes, yeah. These are like, the, like, the third pair that they've had. And these are actually an adopted pair, because they got them from a lady their previous they had a pair. One passed away, and one got really lonely, and then they got connected with a lady who was surrendering these two that they have now, and brought them in. So they had three for a time, and they're like, that was a bit much. I was like, Yeah, that sounds Yeah.

53:57

That track sounds like a little bit

54:00

and yeah,

Collin  54:01

so it was kind of neat. It was neat and they're, they're kind of, they are very creatures of habit. Now, it was kind of neat because I had this expectation of, okay, they're going to be energetic, they're going to be scrambling around, but no, like, you pick them up and they're like, I do not want to be out. I want to be back in my hammock. Stop talking to me. Yep, no, it was in the middle of the day, so they were napping, and because they are nocturnal, but the but the owners were like, No, this is just how they are. They just want to be right over there. I was like, perfect. That actually is very nice.

54:38

I love lounging animals in my favorite type.

Collin  54:41

Yes, I, I will lounge. It would lounge all the day. Yes, so we got, so we got some sugar glider lounging coming up. I'm very excited about this.

Speaker 2  54:55

Did they so you said that they were lifelong Sugar Glider people? Yes. Did they divulge what drew them to sugar gliders as pets? By any chance, did they like, mention, like, why? What made them lifelong? Yeah, Sugar Gliders. Or did that like, that's a very interesting thing to just be, like, drawn to, you know, it's, it's also

Collin  55:22

a very because it's also very labor intensive, like, it's not cat like, that's a thing. If someone's like, Oh man, I'm a Maine Coon cat person for life.

Speaker 2  55:33

It's like, okay, yeah, that's like, that's not really

Collin  55:37

obvious. I just let it be, yeah, it's over there. I feed everyone's while, and it we have a mutual integration with its presence. When it feels like my forest cat will not, you know, attack me in anger. I saw a video. I saw a video the other day of one of those Norwegian Forest cats, like, oh yeah, chasing a fox. And I was like, this is,

Speaker 2  55:59

oh my gosh. I and it was

Collin  56:04

somebody commented, of like, just by looking at their face, you can tell who is chasing who. And I was like, oh yes, that cat, that cat is chasing the fox. That cat, that Fox is not happy. It's terrified. It's absolutely terrified.

56:16

It's huge. It's anyway, oh yeah.

Collin  56:20

Now these clients. They didn't really but one thing they I will say this, this is however many they've had after all these years, and they are just so fascinated by these things they said, and she, the wife, even said, after all these years, I just can't get over how they look. So I think it was one of those like that is unique and different is probably what attracted to them. And they've still been fascinated all these years later, and

56:53

are still just

Collin  56:56

really in love with them as a creature and the thing that they can have in their house, yeah,

Speaker 2  57:04

so interesting, because it's like, I mean, they're cool, but like, just to be like, I am now a lifelong Sugar Glider enthusiast, which, I mean, I guess if you go the step to like, actually have one once. You know, I feel like, I feel like things like that. Are you poor most nevermind.

Brandon  57:34

My argument just fell apart. My head. It's like a lot of people wouldn't just be like, I'm just gonna get this because it's cool. Like, wait, no, that's exactly what people would do. Never mind. That's good. No argument is bad. Brandon, what are you talking about? I think what you're

Collin  57:48

pointing out is, like, is the investment that goes into them like that, that certainly is real. And it's like, yeah, who would spend $400 on a cage and the special food, and all of the enrichment toys and all of the things like that, right? Actually, quite a few people like, and then, just to throw that all out, because it is a little bit of a sunk cost of like, yeah, once you get one, it makes the second one like, you really amortize those expenses the longer you keep sugar gliders. It's

Brandon  58:21

true, and it does make the second one easier to get too, right? Because you're like, I already have all the stuff,

Speaker 2  58:27

right? You know what? I mean? Yes, like, yeah. It's like people. It's

Collin  58:31

like the people who I know who have aviaries, because they got into, like, cockatiels or parents, and they're, it's like, right? You, you have, like, a whole other house addition on in your backyard for your aviary. It kind of justifies the next purchase, right? Once you build the aviary, you're like, Well,

Brandon  58:50

yeah, it's kind of like a Well, we've come this far, yeah. So,

Collin  58:56

yeah, yeah. If ever there was a definition of sunk cost fallacy, it's, well, I've already built the aviary. I've already built

Speaker 2  59:02

the aviary. Might as well get that other bird I was looking at right like

Collin  59:10

I was, I actually there's a there's a store in town that is specific to parrots. And I went in and was speaking with the owners, and they do a lot of re homing.

59:22

Of you have to your bird lives to be like 100 you got

Speaker 5  59:26

well or or again,

Collin  59:30

sunk cost fallacy. When somebody, somebody kind of like, oh, I don't know, ends up with five toucans. If they're like, You know what? I five two cans is kind of five too many for me, and they, they need you to come and take them.

Speaker 2  59:46

Oh my gosh. What the heck? Yeah, I wasn't even though you could have a toucan. I

Collin  59:51

didn't know either, I didn't know either that you could just have it, like you just have one, you have one. It was there in town. They didn't even it. So they had to go, and they had, like, a net, like, get these five toucans out of those ladies little bird room. Yeah, I can, I can see how that's been out

Brandon  1:00:11

with fruit loops. That doesn't work. No, no, yeah, nope. Turns out,

Collin  1:00:15

yeah. Well, and, and, like, one of the things that, one of the reasons why we ended up going over to do the sugar glider stuff is because they needed to go on a trip for work into California. And I learned something from them today is they were going to drive into California. And I learned that prior to this, do you know what they did with their sugar gliders when they had to travel? No, they took them with them, really this they had, they showed me their their mobile, mobile cage thing that they would take with them, and until they had to travel to California, because sugar gliders banned in California. Yeah, that sounds right, yeah. And do you know what they do if you try and enter with a band animal, arrest you forever. I don't know. Ah, no, they will let you pass as long as you surrender your animal and let them destroy it.

Speaker 2  1:01:11

Oh, okay, that's not the point. All right, what the Holy cow, yeah,

Collin  1:01:16

yeah, yeah, yeah. They were like, and so they didn't make that work trip. And so now they're like, I mean, yeah, why would you No? And so they realized that this kind of, like, you know, this kind of transporting our sugar gliders with us, maybe we should find another option led them to

1:01:36

us. Yeah, dang, that's crazy, yeah, yes, yes.

Collin  1:01:46

So weird rules around that and goddess,

Speaker 2  1:01:49

rules like I understand, like it being banned, right? But generally bans on animal ownership are for the protection of the animal, right? And so if the solution to somebody having a banned animal is to kill the animal, I really feel like we've gone the wrong direction for animal safety purposes, right? If you're trying to maintain populations of animals and keep them safe and, like, discourage people from having them as pets, which, you know, exotic pet ownership. We've talked about this before. It's a bit of a slippery slope, right? There's like a what is okay, what is not okay, right? Like, I think on the wrong end is like people like Salvador Dali, like, why are you walking an anti dirt around Manhattan? What are you doing that's not okay, right? But like, Sugar Gliders seem relatively innocuous in that context, right? But like, so there is a slippery slope line here, of like, what is okay and what is not okay, right? Think we can all agree pangolins not okay. Stop it. Stop smuggling pangolins, you weirdo. Stop it. But like, I think that if animals are like, even if it's like, let's say it was a trafficking situation, right? Not like just pet ownership, but like, if they're trying to enter California with a traffic animal. Then killing the traffic animal does not help to preserve the sanctity of the animal at all. So, like, I've gone, you were almost there, and then we took a long turn in very weird direction.

Collin  1:03:38

Yep, yep. It's like, what is the whole purpose behind this. And you know, from California's perspective, I guess I understand when you're like, Well, look, I'm not just gonna sit here at the border and have cages and cages and cages of more increasingly exotic and insane animals. And

Brandon  1:03:54

you see what's happening in Florida, you're like, You're not about to let all these crazy animals out into our ecosystems right then and all that stuff, right? You don't want that either, but, like,

1:04:06

straight up destroying them is a bit

Collin  1:04:11

like, I think we tipped too far into that.

Speaker 2  1:04:13

Yeah, I think so, yeah, yeah. So I thought that was pretty, pretty wild.

Collin  1:04:20

And I have questions about a lot of other I mean, don't get me started, a lot of state regulations, but, but yeah, it's like, yeah, you can go from that end to to Missouri, who's like, toucan. Why would you have one? Toucan? Why would you have five? Yeah, five. Totally fine. Just damn

Speaker 2  1:04:41

Yeah, daddy there. That's uh oh my gosh, kind of not good again.

Collin  1:04:50

I am, I am still waiting. I've said this as as as long as it is like because of where we service, I'm just I'm waiting for the Cayman. In a bathtub where somebody's just like, oh yeah, here's Gary, right? I need show you how to deal with Gary. And

Speaker 2  1:05:05

I'm like, oh no, oh no, I'm out. I'm ready for it. So ready for this. Are

Collin  1:05:11

you though? I know No, because it's gonna be definitely like an also. And it's like, oh, here's my cat, here's how, here's the feeding station, here's this thing. And sometimes clients look gonna be like, oh, and the bathroom is down the hall if you need to use it. And one time you know a guy, his name's probably gonna be Garth, is gonna be like, Oh, hey, let me show you. The bathroom is down here, but I need to let you know about Gary. And I'm like, well, I need you to not go in there, yeah, and it's gonna be a massive tub, and it's gonna be sitting in there just, I've got it all figured out in my head. It's all gonna be crazy. Yes,

1:05:53

this is a plan that you have concocted for

Collin  1:05:56

yourself here. I don't know. Well, that's gonna be, that's gonna be a real interesting phone call to animal control, hey, oh, yeah. Potentially, like, my call to the when I, when I called about the prairie dog, potentially, hypothetically, if somebody are prairie dogs legal to own in town. Like, yeah, I, I started to panic whenever he had to go, he had to con contact the city lawyers to interpret the law to see if prairie dogs were

Speaker 2  1:06:26

legal. Oh, dear, yeah, like,

Collin  1:06:30

I'll just be over here. No, it's fine. No particular reason,

Speaker 2  1:06:35

yes, hypothetically, of course not. But I said I have not that I'm looking at one right

Collin  1:06:40

or not that I know of somebody who is in possession of one obvious, yeah, I'm just asking you out of my own genuine curiosity, because they're so darn cute, and I want to abide by the laws. That's what I want to do, abide by the laws. Stop asking me more questions. So

1:06:57

stop

Collin  1:07:00

the so help, always, always something, always,

Speaker 2  1:07:09

that's crazy. I'm still trying to think about what a person would actually think they could have five two cans in their house. That's like, ridiculous. No, you know. And he said

Collin  1:07:18

they were, of course, he was like, they're really angry. Like, Well, I think I'd kind of be too Right. Like, I kind of get it. And he's like, yeah, they were not happy to be in there or to get out. They just want to be left alone. Yeah. That also tracks. Makes sense, yeah?

Speaker 2  1:07:36

A big tropical bird in a cold house Missouri, probably like, no, get me

1:07:40

out of here.

Speaker 2  1:07:44

That's great, man. Oh my gosh, yes, I don't know Well, what I do know about is wrapping it up with a poem. Ah, yes, for this week, this poem, I did write this yesterday as I was sitting in the living room like listening to the freezing wind outside, and he set the scene for you, right? So see there just from yesterday, so it's really cold outside. And then Susan was making supper, right? Here you go. Boom, howling, icy wind, stove top, roiling, sweet smells drift, warming from within. Ah, nice. She

1:08:38

was making soup, you see? So this was

Speaker 2  1:08:44

she, she looked at the the weather, and was like, All right, so it's gonna be really cold. I'm making soup. And I was like, done, fair, let's go. I'm not against this plan at all.

Collin  1:08:58

This, this plan is awesome, but I

Speaker 2  1:09:01

hopefully I am behind you here. Let's go. Yes, that was my capturing the moment, haiku of just sitting in on the couch listening to her make dinner and the wind, the wind blowing outside.

Collin  1:09:18

I love it. I like it, hopefully it'll be better. But, you know, typically it'll be warming soon, so supposed to

1:09:25

go back up a little bit. Be good. And then, actually, next week, we have spring break. Oh,

Collin  1:09:33

okay, we have, like,

Brandon  1:09:36

it's really weird. My school's decided to do spring break like the traditional Thanksgiving break. We're going to school Monday and Tuesday. But that is all, I don't

1:09:50

that's, that's a terrible plan, kind of weird,

Brandon  1:09:54

yeah, it's kind of a weird plan. I don't really know why we're doing that here. That's, I. That's the plan. The calendar people settled on was, what

1:10:03

if we did it like this? Okay, well, it's better than nothing, so I'm gonna go with it.

Collin  1:10:14

You know what? That's true. It's better than nothing.

Brandon  1:10:18

So my big plan for next week because I realized that I saw an article or something about Clarkson's farm season four, and I was like, Oh snap, I never watched season three. So that's my spring break plan is to,

1:10:40

okay, okay, nice.

1:10:43

That's perfect. That's my plan. So I will report,

1:10:46

maybe not next week, but,

Collin  1:10:54

well, I look forward to the update and how things progress there, and I hope you I hope your nose unplugs and you feel better.

Brandon  1:11:00

Yeah, me too. This coughing is really annoying. Like, every time I notice this, but like, the more I talk, then my throat gets a bit tick, and then I just can't stop coughing. It's like,

Collin  1:11:13

and then, yeah, yep. And then the more you like, Oh, I'd like to kind of do a light chuckle for that. Like, and then you have spent No, no, no, yep, never mind. I'm not laughing at all.

1:11:28

Oh, well, I will let you go. Rest your voice. Okay, okay, okay, love you. Let me do