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SPEAKERS

Brandon, Collin

Collin  00:05

Welcome to Oh brother, a podcast of three brothers. Trying to figure it all out. Your host, Brandon, Colin and Aaron. This week show Lovecraftian things Hi crappy day. Indeed. It is. Indeed it is. Yes, for sure. Partially heard you're here

Brandon  00:37

sound very believable. If I'm being completely honest, I don't know.

00:45

That's not what the other people told me.

Brandon  00:51

I know you better than they do. Sorry.

Collin  00:54

Yeah, no. Let me hear you. Like each other. Anyway,

Brandon  01:00

I win in the I've known you longer category. Fair. So.

Collin  01:05

Yeah, it is not quite. Not quite fair for for others. Oh, my It's hot.

Brandon  01:15

It's terribly hot. I don't like it.

Collin  01:18

We lost power last night, which is not final. Because it was 107. And white, warm, white warm. Also, my job my children and I are used to because we're those people used to falling asleep with a sound machine.

Brandon  01:39

Yeah, no, no, that's fair. Which can't have

01:43

with there's no power. So

Brandon  01:45

I me I do that too. I don't have a sound machine. I'm old school. I just turned the TV on. Right. So like, really low? Yeah, right. So like, my television volume is at like, three. So it's like, you can barely hear it. Or three, four. It's like around there. So like, you just he and I always put it on like whatever, right? It's not nothing like super important. Right? There's a couple fall asleep. Staples. television channels, right. But the throw on there. And then

Collin  02:18

boom. Yeah. As one should? Yeah,

Brandon  02:21

I need the I also like the sound right? Otherwise, it's just like dead quiet in my house. It's like

Collin  02:29

just lay there.

Brandon  02:29

Yeah. awkwardly terrible.

02:34

You know, I

Collin  02:36

weird, weird tangent here, a feature that we like, yeah. A teacher. I've started a feature that moves me. As I say it's hot. That is missing from TVs these days. The small little TV that I had in my bedroom growing up had the best feature of it. Do you know what this feature doing? Or about to say here? Do you have any idea?

Brandon  03:03

Is it the sleep feature? Okay, so

Collin  03:07

that one is also good. Equally equally as good and awake feature?

Brandon  03:11

You could have an alarm for a TV? Yes, you could set the TV to turn on at a set time better. Way better, way, way better. Because I don't like this sleep feature. I've used it before. But like it's never long enough. And like, right, I'd like just go to sleep. And then all of a sudden, it goes off. And that wakes me up.

Collin  03:36

I don't like no answer. No. I will say you know, you had an awake feature. Yes. Now, if you are the type of person who falls asleep to a TV, having it as an alarm clock. Not helpful, right. But because it's on if you are somebody like me who who can't who like can fall asleep with the TV but the I struggle, but if it turned like voices and stuff will keep awake, awakened me up. This was great. Because also, I don't know, I need to dive into this. Because also, it wouldn't just come on at the volume that it was it would like slowly come up to the volume that you had it when I

Brandon  04:13

say that's good. Yeah, like those alarms that like start low and then like come up and even you know those i Those are supposed to be better.

Collin  04:21

Yes. Right. Yeah. Cuz it doesn't startled you. And the time and I it was it was always course waking up. It was always like a news channel. So you just wake up to people talking in a segment. That's very inoffensive. Like, you just kind of like, oh, okay, that's great. Nice. Nice. This feature. I don't know. I don't know if I don't really know. Know that TV did that. I don't remember that. Yes, it was. It was great. Wow, wonderful. That's pretty neat. Yeah. So I I liked that a lot in this and this isn't where we're headed. However, what I did was I took my laptop and I tethered it to my phone. And I started streaming a YouTube channel.

Brandon  05:09

It was like nature sounds, or whatever. I just had the

Collin  05:13

speaker's cranked all the way up, and just said it in their hallway.

Brandon  05:18

Like, there you go. I like to I like those. I don't like those things when I fall asleep, because like, I found that

Collin  05:26

this is gonna sound like weird, but like,

Brandon  05:30

the voices are what is calming? I think I like it. I like the talking. Right? i This is odd. It's very weird, but like the nature ones don't relax me. Right. But I yeah, like those like the, like the ambient noises, you know, like the library and the the thunderstorm thing, right? Or, like all those ones. Yeah. Like those don't relax me. But what I do sometimes is I will listen to that stuff while I'm reading. Right? Like today, Susan was like watching TV and like doing stuff, like cleaning and stuff. And so when I was reading, finishing reading my reading for later, that's what I was doing my headphones, because it's like, just loud enough to like, block out ambient noise. Yeah, your surroundings. But it's not distracting. Yeah. Right. It's not like I can't listen to music and read because I will focus only on the music.

Collin  06:31

Right? Yeah, like start humming,

Brandon  06:33

and I'll stop paying attention. And I'll be like listening to the music. I've tried that before like reading with like classical music and stuff. It doesn't really work. I don't like to do that. The one exception I find that reading with like classical music if you are reading like Sherlock Holmes. It's just very atmospheric because Sherlock Holmes is a big fan of classical music. Right? So what you got to do is you got to pair your ambient sounds to the book. Right was the thing I started doing right? If I'm, if I'm doing this, and I'm reading a book that's like setting a city, I will listen to like ambient city noises. Right? And then if I'm reading like, let's just pretend I was reading The Hobbit. You read like, ambient like mountain stream.

Collin  07:28

That's what you live put on. Right? Yeah. So it it's like a thing that I do every once in a while to just kind of like

Brandon  07:40

Zen out and go into the book. Right? I'll listen to something that's like, tangentially related, just like atmospheric noises. Not literally anything, anything. But I do that. Sometimes. That's how I did today.

Collin  07:50

I was listening to like, Mountain Lake. Gee, I wonder why

Brandon  07:54

it's doing that. But like a mountain lake, so it was like the wind on the lake. And like birds chirping and stuff. Sure. Yeah. So it's very nice. Just like relaxing in the mood, but I can't sleep with it. Because it's not. I tried like other stuff. Like I even tried, like the white noise thing. I try and like,

Collin  08:16

like, sometimes if I can't sleep, I will. Like

Brandon  08:22

I've tried a lot of stuff on like YouTube, right? Like some of that stuff. I've listened to like all kinds of things.

Collin  08:27

Like talking. Just does it me like boom done.

Brandon  08:31

I'll just like listen, sometimes. I will listen to you just like really random stuff. As long as it's long and somebody's talking. Some of them are like, they're like going on and on about like, medieval swords. I don't care. Just boom. Just somebody's talking at a steady pace about I don't know why that is. Maybe it's I listen to the TV too much. Right? I conditioned myself to need TV noises tisk tisk tisk like the narrator on like, major shows just like my pleasure for

Collin  09:11

like, whatever

Brandon  09:13

was a good fall asleep show is are those those shows about like Game Wardens from like the Animal Planet. Because just like it was not really like action packed is like dudes walking around, like check people's deer tags. But we're like, Hey, man, I see quite a lot of fish there. Let me see your license. Like, that's kind of it's very occasional, like there's a bear in the street. So like, it's just enough talking. And when it's like down really low. It's just kind of like

Collin  09:43

in the background. That's how

Brandon  09:47

it works. The thing that works for me,

Collin  09:48

I found that is what it takes. It's really strange. It's really weird. But that's what I have. I have a playlist of Have a bit soundtracks from video games, because most video games have a soundtrack baseline somewhere in the background. It's supposed to be inoffensive, it will have moments where it swells to thematic points, right and to point out and highlight stuff. A lot of times, there's just Background music playing at a very like, like, very background level. That's I have a whole playlist of those that listen to when I'm reading or when I'm trying to focus or studying or, or doing again, engage mental gears right now I need to focus on this.

Brandon  10:43

I I have a for listen to Lo Fi hip hop is something that I listen to. But that's the stuff that I play in my classroom by and I have like workdays and we're working on projects, some not every day because not everyone likes it, but some days I will turn that's the stuff I turn on, like video game soundtrack stuff. Yeah. is really good. Right? Not like Halo, because it gets real intense. But like, you know, here's Zelda as your there's lots of good ones. But even like the chiptune stuff, so if you want to, if you want to just like have a nice background music, but this is like fun. Sonic recommend Sonic the Hedgehog.

Collin  11:18

Yeah, it's to the point now where when we're doing homeschool days, you know, doing the schoolwork and stuff there. Lilian will come into, like, I need to play. I need you to play focus music, and I'm like, okay, yeah, here we go.

Brandon  11:33

Yeah, that's what I do. I do that when I'm at work. Right. It does have to be again. Something that's like that. That's just like, unobtrusive in the background. Otherwise, I focused on the music too much. Yeah, sometimes I do anyway, some of those Lo Fi things are awesome. But like

Collin  11:51

they're good. I do find myself yeah, focusing on them too much. But it turned out low enough. It's not so bad. Yeah. Although one time I forgot to I had on my phone. And I was playing it. And I forgot to turn it off and I got in the car connected and it was the bait like it was like really low volume. But I could hear it and I was like, What is going where is this coming from? And I had that moment of like, is this it is like is this the break up of my life? Like

Brandon  12:28

it's playing inside my head now? What? I was sorry. It's a Twilight Zone episode. I think I felt like that's probably in there. So yeah, pretty sure why is like a Lovecraftian thing like the king in yellow, right. Yes, listeners, I know. The king in yellow is not written by Lovecraft but it's in the same genre. Okay, so there we go.

Collin  12:53

Yeah, that's the thing that that that is what kind of made it this the ish right. Crafty aspect of that. Yeah.

Brandon  13:04

Maybe Maybe that's what people are listening to the show for. Maybe this is their bedtime aid.

13:10

Tonight listeners I hope

13:11

medicine that was no moving on. Moving on.

Collin  13:19

No, none of that

Brandon  13:20

I collide as

Collin  13:24

I injured myself, which is always fun.

Brandon  13:28

in a particular way.

Collin  13:31

Let me tell you, let me tell you, okay, so it was this morning. We were going to get in our car and we're going to drive into Kansas City to go to a jump Park which is always fun just for the day. Go jump have lunch or little comeback. Right. And I was like, I I am jumping today. I haven't Joe kids before Friday. I am TJ I am going to jump. So I was super excited.

Brandon  13:57

I knew I was a boss of pain played in your head. I was

Collin  14:05

I had I had an interview for something early this morning. And I finished that I came downstairs and I'm like why? And Megan had gone and got coffee and I was like, Oh my gosh, this is amazing. And then I was coming through the kitchen and from our kitchen into our dining room. We have a little butler pantry thing. And we keep a baby gate there because it's to keep Kobe in the kitchen because he's you know, he's older and sometimes he has

Brandon  14:34

access because what we do is so easily with Chuck whenever he went to work, he just lived in the kitchen and stuff. Yeah,

Collin  14:41

well, I was coming around the corner and then as one does, and I put my left foot down and I was going to put my right foot forward and my left foot get a piece bought on our floor and my left foot

14:59

right Forward

Brandon  15:03

thought just gonna kick the baby gate. I've done that for that hurts you but in dog pee the worst?

Collin  15:12

Ah, yes. And my foot jammed not just into the baby gate. No, no, no No sir. Underneath took my big toenail and just with flock. Wow. Yeah. I have like the extreme like

Brandon  15:34

barely the same version I like came around the corner and kick a box a little bit yesterday. That was it like mildly stubbed my toe. Sounds like you'd have died.

15:46

Oh, I just rambled. And I

Collin  15:52

was just like, No, here's the here's the here's the great part. I didn't spill my coffee. Because I'm a I'm a master at this.

Brandon  15:59

Right. slosh dynamics and action. Yes. Yeah. Circular motions

Collin  16:03

to keep it anyway. And so what I did, I just was like, Oh my gosh, like, on the couch, with with ice on it. And? And, and it was like, Well, no, no.

Brandon  16:21

Dang it. I wanted to hear the report of Colin jumping. This sounds so very exciting. So

Collin  16:29

I'm at the jump Park. It's just a bunch of trampolines. Right that have the padding around them and the third floor level? And have you been to a jump park before?

Brandon  16:38

No. Why would I go to and I haven't heard of them. But the children go. Okay. My kids go like that my students go. So I know what they are kind of.

Collin  16:51

Okay. Yeah. So, yeah. It's where you walk in and everything's floor level. And but in the floor, instead of where there's normally flooring, there's just a trampoline. So you can like run and jump on it. And then some of them are stretched into a curve. So they kind of curve up the wall. She can run, jump and kick out and do a flip and stuff. They have a dozen they've got a basketball area so you can can do some stuff. And then they have like a Ninja Warrior Obstacle Course thing. But the best part about this, which was what I was secretly really excited about, was they have a foam pit that you can swing out into and jump out of and land in this foam pit. Oh, nice like those.

Brandon  17:41

Like the learning pits when they do like, Is it like the with the big square foam big square foam? Can you learn like BMX tricks and stuff? That's what they put in the parks. Right? Yeah, or big warehouse things,

Collin  17:54

whatever. Yep, or word or whatever, like, or you see them in when people are learning like gymnastics, they'll put those out underneath the things where you you do the big kick twirl, spin over that. And you don't have to worry about landing yet. You're just doing Yeah,

Brandon  18:09

you're practicing the air motion. Yeah. Yep.

Collin  18:13

To have a segment that has a big swing and you can just push like the dickens and then leap off into and just fly with abandon. I wanted to do this. However, I wasn't able to do this because my toe is injured but at that station, they have a trampoline there. So you can like jump and like get a really good going thing. And so while the kids were swinging, I was jumping on the trampoline.

Brandon  18:37

Hey, all right. It's warming up. Right. getting warmed up

Collin  18:41

working out the the body I don't

Brandon  18:45

really know, gymnastic terms, right like you're getting something right. Something was happening. Something was brewing. SDM Simone Biles to, really

Collin  19:01

so, that was that's what we did that. And it was fun. And then we came back home. And it was just it's just so hot, because driving back, looking at the temperature of the outside and it was like 100 all the way back. And I was like a sad. That's gross. Yes, that's very gross. I have another tangent for you. I may have mentioned this before, but there is a rather exciting physics paper that I once read.

Brandon  19:38

And I have the abstract pulled up here. I remember what it's called. It's called Walking with coffee. Why does it spill by HC Meyer at all? And it's like a they are like looking at the problem of like the interest of the from the abstract. The studied problem represents an example of the interplay between the complex motion of a cup due to the biomechanics of a walking individual and the love of viscosity liquid dynamics. It's basically about like how acceleration moves of fluid in a container.

Collin  20:11

It's amazing.

Brandon  20:12

It's really, it's really good. And so I would just like to recommend anybody who's interested in physics, or likes coffee, you should read it because it's a good time. There's beautiful diagrams, and this thing is really good. But it's it's it's talks a lot about like, fluid dynamics, like a like acceleration, like your initial step is the most important, because that's what starts the liquid moving on inside the system. Right. So there you go. Some light reading, if you're interested.

20:45

Yeah. In case you're wondering, yeah. Oh, this is this was by Mayor in crece. net, net. Cough. Yeah. Okay. That's the one

Brandon  20:58

that here's the here's another one who's listening is better. Yeah, there's the one. HC Mayer in our

Collin  21:05

Nick calvia. Published 26,

Brandon  21:08

April 2012. It's a good read.

Collin  21:12

I like it. But we had. And when I was in Arlington, they had a professor there who had this problem immensely, immensely, of going into the office of the graduate school. They're filling up his cup of coffee, because they provided coffee there, and then walking back to his office and leaving, but we will be called shippi trails. I don't know that it was I think it was last night. So you always knew where he was right? During the day of like, when did he arrive? Well, you could just go and literally stand at this intersection here

Brandon  21:52

is the coffee and

Collin  21:54

look at the floor and just passed this way. Not five minutes ago. It was like it was so but you would you would track it down based off of where the ancillary is, and you just kind of like discern where his day was like it was. It was fantastic. So like, I need to send them to Scotland. Give me good some great, great help with that. Ah yes,

Brandon  22:26

the science of the slosh says here so. I'm not walking far enough with my coffee currently to have this problem. Doesn't really slosh too much on the way to the couch.

Collin  22:41

It's very, you know,

Brandon  22:47

not a lot going on this week. Really. Susan and some of her friends are having like

Collin  22:52

a joint garage sale. They're like their powers combined.

Brandon  23:02

Captain Planet garage sale thing going on here. So she's been, like,

Collin  23:07

looking around and

Brandon  23:09

digging out old stuff and that kind of stuff. So she's been doing that I've been hiding, you know, staying out of the way, trying not to get sold off to the lowest bidder.

Collin  23:25

Story, right.

Brandon  23:27

It is once again Shark Week. On early as well. That's exciting. I gotta say. Jason Momoa as the Shark Week host, probably the best host they've had for shark week in an extremely long time.

Collin  23:48

Like, he's so much better

Brandon  23:49

than literally everyone. They've had the past like, I don't know, five years. I can't remember who else has been out there. But like, way better than the rock. Way better than just like a ton of it's like so good. i This is refreshing. Thank you Discovery Channel for making it not cringy and horrible. Right now is really good. Oh,

Collin  24:14

why? What makes it is it just his personality? How he's engaging?

Brandon  24:18

I think so. I think he's just like, so chill. I like he's just such a like, chill dude in general. Right. And yeah, I think it's his personality. Right? Like, he's funny. He's pretty chill. And he seems to be like actually generally interested in like, sharks and stuff. So he's like, having fun and like, he's not trying too hard, right? Like everybody else tries too hard. They're always like, literally forceful. It comes off as like really weird and

Collin  24:44

crunchy. Right to quote,

Brandon  24:47

the use or is the word they would use here I imagine. So it's

Collin  24:52

good. It's very good. It's a good one. I'm enjoying it.

Brandon  24:58

Right? Lots of varieties of Shark right? It's very nice. Right? So watch one last night about the giant hammerheads, Susan's favorite shark, by the way, just so you know.

Collin  25:11

It's a good one. I mean, if you're gonna do it, I mean, yeah, right. It's a good one. So

Brandon  25:18

that's pretty much what we've been doing. And it's Women's World Cup time.

Collin  25:23

Where, hey, oh, that's fun, too.

Brandon  25:27

I will see how that goes. They're playing right now, actually. So we'll hear if we hear shouting from the other room. Oh, Susan, watching them. See how it goes playing the Netherlands, tonight, of one of the fierce rivals

Collin  25:41

of the Dutch. Right. So we'll see how it goes. I was gonna ask who you're rooting for, but, you know, well, you know, it's obviously the girls. But, you know,

Brandon  25:52

we'll see how far they make it. The first game back ally didn't look just like wonderful. They won against Vietnam. But like was it like the best I've ever seen. So you know, opening game though. So you've got to take that into account. That's a whole separate thing. You know, the first game of a tournament could be, you know,

Collin  26:19

nerves and stuff. So matters later, but I

Brandon  26:26

always like really confident because you know, they do they have a history of like being very good. But I did watch Germany play the other day. Oh, right. I watched the Brazil play a little bit the other night. Oh, you got to take into account who they were playing. But they look bit scary. So gotta keep an eye on them. See how you know. Yeah.

Collin  26:55

They're just like, really, really fast. There's like, like, oh, oh, no. Oh, no,

Brandon  27:01

not fast and accurate passing. Oh, no, that's not just know. The dreaded combo, right? Just makes fun of me a lot. Because I will yell things at them. right all the time. And to be like, it's like it's fine. They need to run it the post they need to run somebody needs to be running at the back post all the time. Right. Just to do it. Just run the back post. It'll be fine.

Collin  27:26

You tell Ron, what are they gonna do? Yeah,

Brandon  27:29

when said when they missed the cross, and it goes why'd you could have been standing right there. But no, you decided to not worry.

Collin  27:39

Just run just ran just ran at the post. That's it. So how, how far are they into the tournament? Did you say I

Brandon  27:47

just started so like, just this is their the US is this is their second game. So okay, we're not into the nitty gritty yet. We're still in the opening. Round the group stage?

Collin  28:00

I believe so. I see. Not real far. It's kind of you know,

Brandon  28:07

just the beginning like it just be started like last week or whatever. Cool. So

Collin  28:14

best? Yeah, maybe last

Brandon  28:15

weekend? I don't know. It was like the same day the Tour de France got over, I think

Collin  28:19

right. Which is really good this year. To

Brandon  28:23

just you know, sports recap of July Tour de France was It was insane. Did you see any of the highlights or anything?

Collin  28:36

It's been a couple of days. I did not I did not stay up to date with it towards the end. So well, is that right? Basically? Up until, like, the time trial, which is like

Brandon  28:54

the last week, right? First and second. Were 10 seconds apart.

Collin  29:00

Wow. After two weeks in tech. That's intense.

Brandon  29:08

It was so intense. It was Raizy. So I was really like, entertaining. It was good one. Right. Todd a lost a bunch of time at the time trial. And then sort of Miley died on a mountain but you know, it's fine. So got second. His teammate got third shot at Adam Yates. Good job. Good stuff

Collin  29:37

I read I did read an article about the different of how much the bike tech has changed.

Brandon  29:46

Insanity

Collin  29:48

since they were comparing this to when they were comparing Christmas rooms 2013 to 2023 Bike Yeah,

Brandon  29:57

this villa was right. Yeah, I saw I was I started that article today but finish it yet.

Collin  30:03

I think, you know, it basically was like, it was like, the biggest difference that affects everything is aerodynamics. It was like Yeah, right. Right. Right, right.

Brandon  30:12

If you can definitely tell because like this year, I also just like the cycling in general is very different than it was when I started watching the tour. And like, Susan, I were trying to calculate this out. I believe the first year we watched it together was

Collin  30:29

2011.

Brandon  30:32

I think that's right. Because we definitely saw Cadel Evans when I'm 100% sure of that. So we at least watched the 2011 Tour de France. And we've seen We've watched them all since then. But like, the style of racing is insanity. Like, this whole year, they were going so fast on every single stage, like it didn't matter. Like, it took breakaways, like half a day to form. Like, I don't know, what are they like racing every single day? Like it's like, pay Ruby or something? Crazy. Like guys. Slow down.

Collin  31:09

You're not going to live? This? No, it was wild.

Brandon  31:17

And to juxtapose that even further, I found on YouTube, a highlight film of the 1953 Tour de France.

Collin  31:31

Oh, oh, baby.

Brandon  31:36

Oh, my, it was narrated in Dutch, which was very humorous. It had subtitles. So that's good. Because I don't

31:42

speak Dutch.

Brandon  31:46

Even though that is the language is very confusing, because like, it sounds familiar. But you still have no idea what they're saying. Just it's just like, somewhere between German and English enough that you're like, these words sound like I should know what they mean. Right?

32:02

That's going on. Right.

Brandon  32:03

But I watched the 1953 tour highlights.

Collin  32:06

Holy cannoli. How many smoke breaks? Did they have a lot?

Brandon  32:15

Like they were they would? They would wear they would just wear? Bike? innertubes. Christian? Yeah, on their shoulders. Right. So if they had a flat, they would they would hop off and like change your tire. Right? Even though there are cars and stuff. There's like a guest team bars. Sure, technically, because they were like the feed zones. Like they did have the little music bags. Right. But like, they also had a just a field where the riders would like, get off the bike. Go over to the table. Grab the food. Wow. Right. Back over to the Oh

Collin  32:52

my gosh. No,

Brandon  32:59

I was just watching it. Like I it was like a two hour thing. It's like from so I'd like just, I was skipping

Collin  33:05

through it. Just because I know.

Brandon  33:11

But it was like, it was like a recap of like every stage and so you could like skip to the parts and stuff. These guys are crazy. Like none of these mountain roads have any pavement anywhere. Or no nothing.

Collin  33:27

There's just why and why? Yeah.

33:31

Steal bikes, right.

Brandon  33:35

Like the very rudimentary derailleur system. Uh, hi. I'm not I can't really tell how many gears are there? But I'm guessing. By the way, they're peddling. Not a lot. No,

Collin  33:46

there's not a lot of difference between those. Just a couple. It was

Brandon  33:53

wild. I watched yesterday, like a news car. It was funny. There's like a whole bunch of old SITRANS right. Obviously, there was like a big Citroen convertible, and in the back was a dude with a typewriter

34:13

cuz as we

Collin  34:14

know, from Top Gear, right, they use the Citroen to film the horse races. Yeah. Well, and also the Tour de France apparently. Yeah, apparently, because of their suspension. A long

Brandon  34:24

history of motorcycles being in the way at the tour as well. Right. There was a thing whereas like one, there was one shot. There was like, the camera in the car, drove by the motorcycle. And there's a dude on the back, like riding on a reporter pad. And the driver is driving with one hand and taking pictures with a camera with a little

Collin  34:47

Oh, you're supposed to do where

Brandon  34:55

Peter saga is very angry. The 1933 to a different As for

Collin  35:02

the way or, or Yeah,

Brandon  35:05

it was, it was wild, right? Johnny Hoogland is looking at these cars going. That is not safety stickers. Right?

Collin  35:13

Why are you here? So

Brandon  35:18

that yeah, that was just really interesting to see those two things back to back back together like that, like, oh my gosh yeah, watch like stage 20 of the Tour de France and then watch like that 1953 tour like, wow.

35:39

Wow. Speaking of Yeah.

Brandon  35:41

How things have changed.

Collin  35:44

Crazy.

Brandon  35:46

Oh, yeah. Tours. Good. So that's basically what I'll be doing. Watching sporting events in July. Staying inside, because I'm not going to ride my bike outside. No, no.

Collin  36:00

See, see aforementioned discussion about it being hot? Yeah. 100 degrees outside. I don't really feel like riding my bike anywhere at all

Brandon  36:12

effed on the flat roads that are off to the side over the item. Not good. No.

Collin  36:17

No. Don't need that. No, no, yuck. Yuck.

Brandon  36:26

So what have you been up to? Other than breaking your foot? Oh, yeah. Practicing warming up for your return to the jump Park.

Collin  36:36

Man, that's the end that's been poof. Been about it's,

Brandon  36:45

Hey, this is a nice change of pace. This is

Collin  36:51

considering how the past three months was like, Well, I've been doing a lot. But you know, it's weird being being back kind of home swing of things. Still, you know, trying to find time for different different projects and stuff as they come up. The biggest one has been internet. Ah, we've been having the spraying of times while you've experienced it, where it will randomly cut out. And I experienced that on my side. Oh, my gosh, it's been it's been it's, it's been increasing frequency. Right. So I was on the chat with our internet provider. And I was like, hey, these things are happening blocked. And I'm a weird person. Okay, so I'm sorry, we run our own modem and router. We don't use one provided by the company. I just don't want to, I'd rather have I'd rather have more control more features, be able to upgrade it, change it as we need to. And it's been great. It's been fine. It's been rock solid. I've run my tests. But on their end, of course, they their hands are tied. And I don't expect them to diagnose any of my hardware problems. And I do try and come across it by saying like, I'm not trying to blame everything on them. I'm just I just want them to check their event, right? That's all I'm wanting. I'm not saying that. It's, it's your fault. I'm just saying, Hey, I'm having these problems because you see things. And of course, they're like, Well, we know, it looks like you're using your own router. And we don't support that. But like yeah, no, no, no, it's fine. I just want everybody use their own router. No, no. Because most of the time, right? Well, right now what they did was they just raised everybody's rates a little bit. And now they provide you the equipment for free, quote unquote. So So now, you can at least this one does this company does. So you can get a free modem router combo. And, um, but you know, but they just raise everybody's they just built it in. And that's, that's the easiest way to do it. Right? Like you just raise prices by $1 across your 300,000 or whatever, more millions of subscribers. And just that way, it's people don't have to worry about paying you an extra 10 bucks a month to rent the stupid thing. Right. So what? Anyway, they were kind of kvetching. And they're like, well, we'll send you a router to us. I was like, No, that's not that's not what I want. I just need you to check your ID. And finally they got me over to this person to check our end. And they were like, Ha yeah, I was reviewing your your log of transmission and there's a there's definitely an issue with the connection that we know the pattern of whatever is indicative is what we see when there's an issue with the line coming. I was like, Was it like just what you attract that's fantastic. Yeah, and then they're like Wilson that attack and then they were they did the like Oh, looks like you're on such and such a plan. Oh, no. For the same price. No, we can get you into our gigabit plan. And while the techs coming out, can just install that for you just install it. And I was like, no, no, I told I just I don't know. Because because when you go to that place, you do have to use their own system because yeah,

Brandon  40:28

control. Yeah. Like, it's also like

Collin  40:31

it's the same price for now. Right?

Brandon  40:37

Exactly. State months. It won't be any more won't be

Collin  40:41

right. And then because I remember it, yeah, what happened was we had a 12. We had a 12 month plan, it was one price, and then every sweat for six months after that it increased by like five or $6. Oh, wow. So that. And what it did though, is that after 24 months, it brought it up to the full price is basically what it did is they did a slow ramp.

Brandon  41:03

Okay, so it didn't just like jump. Okay, no, no, it just,

Collin  41:07

it was like we're gonna stair step you up to the full price in hopes that you would be like, wasn't it? That wasn't how it was it? I guess that's

Brandon  41:13

what it was all whatever you wouldn't notice is yes. And I was like,

Collin  41:17

no, no, our speeds are fine. I just need them to work. Okay, yeah. That's all I'm asking for was. The other reason we use their system is the line for the Wi Fi, either either enters into our basement, or our master bed, which is on the second floor. Those are the two access points are perfect. Which is terrible for Wi Fi, because it doesn't bend down, right? No, it doesn't. So how it goes. So we have a router that has like multiple, like has extension points that that actually do make create a mesh network to cover everything in between. Yeah, to create more cohesive, it's a little bit slower than just like one Uber duper powerful router kicking out.

Brandon  42:14

But it's more consistent, though, right? Because yeah, does go around corners that way. Yeah. Like, it doesn't like, like how we only have one like, okay, router, but like, you know, for our little apartment, that's all we need. But like, you know, that you do have to take into account like, doors and corners and stuff like that. So it's

Collin  42:36

I am I'm vertically I am 30 feet away from where there's aspects to access point comes into my base bit more than that, because again, I'm on the second floor its way all the way down in my basement. And I'm and it's an old home. So who knows what these walls are made of. And everything's plaster which Yeah, nothing travels through plaster. So I'm like, like, No, I just I, I thank you for the offer. I'd really rather this just

Brandon  43:05

rather just keep my thing, please.

Collin  43:08

Just let this work. That's all I want. What is the hardest task? Right? Having things that work? Now, you know, who knew that was such a?

Brandon  43:21

So demanding module enough to work properly?

Collin  43:26

I know, we're such. Yeah, we'll just they just want what they want. And I guess whatever, right?

Brandon  43:33

I know, that's you, that's where we're at. Right? Like, we

Collin  43:36

I'm such a, like,

Brandon  43:40

I'm such a person that's like, if it's working. I'm just gonna, like leave it there.

43:44

Right. And so, but like, then I've had the same thing for like, ever. Yeah. Right. And so like, now, it's like, okay, well,

Brandon  43:57

it's not really working that great. And one of the reasons is because it's mega old, in like, technology. Like credit now. Like, I don't want to chase the thing and like, buy in, like do other stuff, like all the time, so then we got money for that.

Collin  44:15

So like, this is what I'm

Brandon  44:19

like, if working. I'm just gonna, I'm not worrying about it. I'm just like, it's fine. It's working. And then all of a sudden when they just won't because it's like, oh, no, it's too old.

Collin  44:30

Yes, and

Brandon  44:31

when I'm really happy with our like, TV thing, right? Because it was like we had the old one. Yeah. And it was fine. It was like you want to upgrade like now it's working. It's whatever and then like, because it was cheaper and we were paid for whatever the stuff and then like and then we get like I think it was like Hey, your thing physically won't work anymore if you don't get the new thing

44:58

Yeah,

Collin  44:59

so you Yeah, so one of our things is, like, the when we bought our Wi Fi stuff, it was, uh, that was like 667 years ago when we were doing that. And I know we bought it, we bought five years I that was five years ago. And we bought the modem around the same time. But now the internet speeds and stuff that they're offering and the connectivity of everything is like, way past even five year old technology. And I'm like, I don't want to reinvest in all of that. I just want what we have to work, right.

Brandon  45:36

It's a big reinvestment. And that's an annoying thing to have to do every few years. That's not something I'm interested in.

Collin  45:42

No, no, I just I want to buy like when we bought our thing, like we kind of tried to buy ahead a little bit to give it some legs, and we're five year on in it, and it's working fine. But also, like, if we were to increase internet speeds, it wouldn't work for that anymore. Like that's where it is. It's just like, No, I wasn't built for those speeds. What are you talking about? Like, ah, oh, no. Yes. Very frustrating and annoying. But oh, well. C'est la vie. Yeah. So that's what we're, that's what we're doing. We're continuing to keep our foot to the floor on hiring in both locations now. And because we know we've got some changes potentially coming up, just like some predetermined known things. Nothing, nothing knows last minute stuff, right? But like, Okay, we've got it, we have to get ahead of this. We've got to do these things. And so I'm going to be doing some more interviews, in person interviews for those things. The other other aspect is one of the one of our struggles that we've been really just like banging our heads against the wall in is,

47:06

is a

Collin  47:07

new client onboarding. How do how do one do why process steps things right? Like, on one hand, we want to make this super simple and easy as possible. And just like basically have a wide open door where anybody comes in, and we service like that would be, that'd be the best. However, we do have criteria and filtering necessary. We do have knockout questions. So we have to ask. And, and now, when people come on, they contact us either through phone or through our website, we I always called him back and talk to them more about their needs and questions that they have. And then say, okay, you'll need to go to our website. And if you've already filled out the form, we're going to activate your account, if you haven't filled out that initial form, we're going to activate your account, you're going to get an email. And it's going to take you to put to put together your profile. And there's a lot of questions here, that about your home about each one of your pets, their likes, dislikes, feeding requirements, where they sleep, where they're stressed out about what are their high value, retreat and rewards. And you're gonna fill all of that out. And then we'll do where we come to your home. And then you can book the service. And that's a lot of steps to ask somebody to walk through. Right? Like that's especially somebody who's like, I just need a dog walker, right? Just Just walk my dog just want my dog. And I'm like, wonderful, great happy you're here. Here's 17 Things you need to do. Like, like I can do that I can, that's exactly what we do. Go through the steps. And because we've had issues in the past where people said one thing, or they didn't disclose issues with a dog, we have these questions in there, we have to ask them, so we can hold their feet to the fire if that happens. And we get these initial inquiry forms, and we're like, this is not a good fit. Actually, no, I've got to call you and tell you, No, we can't move forward with this. And we get we get pushback from people who go, you would get you know that? Well, they're right. They wouldn't they say you have a lot more clients, if you just, you know, didn't have all this stuff in here. And and I'm going, you know, are they not filling out the forms because they are a bad fit right for our company ethos, or whatever, or are not filling out the forms because they're a pain in the butt and we shouldn't have all those forms there. But also knowing like, these are really helpful to us, and I want to try and be as helpful as possible. Well, I think I feel like a person that walks their own dog

Brandon  49:58

doesn't really think about What it's like to walk a complete strangers dog.

Collin  50:04

Right. And I feel like, also,

Brandon  50:09

there's a lot more to go into it then than they think. Right? They don't think about like, you know, they don't put together the fact that like your dog is gonna respond differently to people inside his house than out on the sidewalk, right? They don't think about a lot of that stuff, because they're not like, you know, it's just not what they're focused on, because it's their own dog and like, they're subconsciously aware of its cues, and the things that it's doing. And it's like, they're aware of the answers to these questions, but they probably have never put them into words before because nobody's ever asked

Collin  50:42

them the question like that.

Brandon  50:47

That's one possibility. Right? The other possibility is that there are there are different types of dog owners. Right there is the dog owner, who is very in tune with this stuff. And then there's the person that's just like, dogs are cool. I like dog. And that's kind of as far as it goes. They're not really

Collin  51:08

they don't think about

Brandon  51:11

that kind of stuff. Because they didn't even know that it existed.

Collin  51:14

Yes. Yeah. Right. And I feel like

Brandon  51:20

there are not there are like, there are different types of pedophiles. You know what I mean? They just are, there's people that may have pets for different reasons, they have pets, because they just think they're cute. Or they have pets, because they, you know, understand that this is a living thing. And I'm responsible for its life. And, like, you know, I mean, like those, there are this big spectrum of people. And so like, it could be one of those two things that,

Collin  51:49

like, just walk the dog like, yeah, that's not quite how that

Brandon  51:54

works. Right? Right. These are also probably people that are like my dogs fine. It's like, pulling on the leash and like, nipping at babies, right. And they're like, it's just he's just curious. I know. Anxiety, aggression, like?

Collin  52:16

Yeah, it's it is, and that's, it's hard to discern that of, is this just somebody who's? Like, not I'm gonna say nonchalant about their pet? Or is this somebody who's genuinely annoyed at this process? And that's, you know, that's, we kind of have to discern that. But unfortunately, both of them

Brandon  52:39

have to fill out the forms anyway, I get over it.

Collin  52:42

I have to fill out the form. At which point, if they're not like, if they're not filling out the form, well, then like, you're not our client. And then I tell you, it's, it's pretty. It's pretty frustrating to be like, being on the phone with somebody. And they're like, Yeah, that's what I want. And you're like, great, they felt smart. radio silence. No, no, no. It's like, oh, gosh, what was it? Was it the form? Or was it something else? Or what is blah, blah. So we're in this now and the reason this is an issue is because we switch software's previously, that thing was like, our previous software is all using anybody came in, and we filtered him out on the back end. And so I think we're just seeing the misfit way, it's way more

Brandon  53:29

it's more frightening. The way it's working now. Yeah, that that makes sense to us. That may be presented to you in a different light. So it's like more like the spotlights on anymore, right? It's like much more apparent like, Oh,

Collin  53:41

yes, yeah. And you're like, Oh, I Oh, that hurts. I don't like that. Like, rather not. Ah, so yes, I think that's what it is. But it's still it's still like, Oh, really fine. Fine, fine. Fine. Whatever.

Brandon  54:01

What is annoying, right? When they're like,

Collin  54:03

I want to do business with you. Okay. Do this. No. Yeah. Okay. I

Brandon  54:10

read you said you want I don't understand what you call me. I don't know what you want.

Collin  54:17

Genuinely, that's what's happening. Right? But you get

Brandon  54:19

mad at me for you called me. You wanted my service. You don't want to like, do the thing that gives me the like, it makes you be able to have my service. Like that's a little confusing, I guess. But I can see how it's like maybe unexpected, you know, from those like it's just the dog like Yeah, but your dog bites me. That's not gonna go well for you. So like,

Collin  54:46

I'm gonna be a bit angry. Right. I'm gonna be a bit angry. Yeah. So since Yeah, it just, that's that's our biggest that's our most recent struggle really is now going. Okay, we're now how do we that's changing our thought process of like, okay, now how do I get is now it used to be just like who are passionate people about their pets, that one of the bubble one now it's like, who are passionate people about their pets that blah blah and are okay with filling out lots of forms like, how do I talk to you on Instagram? Yeah.

Brandon  55:24

Yeah, I mean, that's the thing too, like, I mean, there is like, I don't know what the forms look like. So I can't speak on that. But like, maybe there's some questions you could combine together? Or I'll I don't know. But like, who knows? Like, that's a process for, you know, that's a separate process altogether of making sure that you have the information that you need. And then like, if there's duplicate information being like, Okay, well, this is the same as that. So we can like blah, whatever. But like, that's the other process to go through the whole thing and being like, Oh, I don't really need that one. Right.

Collin  55:56

I don't really need that one. So, you know, whatever. Right? Obviously, if you put it on there, it's important, right? So it's like,

Brandon  56:05

it's like, when I make a test, right? Like, I'm not putting questions on there that are like, surprises, or like, not putting questions on there that aren't important for the end goal, like other things that we want to do, right? Like, they're on there for a reason. So like,

Collin  56:22

you know, but yeah, that's a rough one, though.

Brandon  56:28

Also, 100% jerks about it, like, you could have more customers like, okay, cool. Are you gonna do it or not? Just like, oh, it's worth, who cares? Like, I have more clients, I know what to do with currently. So

Collin  56:42

that's fantastic. I love the like, well, one person was like, Well, I'm in digital marketing, blah, blah, blah. And I really think that you and I was like, stop talking about my business, like you don't.

Brandon  56:56

If we were talking about digital marketing, then I would defer to you, we're not gonna get it. You're so

Collin  57:08

I've read all the books that are like to have a premium service, the the end user needs to do as little as possible to experience and reap the benefits. Like that's one of the things that makes things feel premium. I get it, right. That's why a luxury car services, you show up, you don't even tell them your name, right for an oil change. They just whisk you away, and you're in their system. And then you go sit and you have a latte and then your back was gets massaged, and then you come back in. And they don't even tell you what that what's been done to the car and you just drive away and you get billed automatically to the cars you have on file. Like I understand, like that's a premium service. But like, Okay, here's what you do, then. Ready? charge everybody. The premium is the price.

Brandon  57:55

And just assume their dog is gonna bite your face off. Right? And yes, I know. It's like your dog is gonna kill me and a small child. I'm going to charge you more, because it's a mystery. And done. There we go. Right. I'm charging more, because now I'm going to buy

Collin  58:14

some of those like, sleeves. Right?

Brandon  58:17

Did they tempt your bites? Leanna Kevin Kevlar by sleeve.

Collin  58:23

But I'm gonna

Brandon  58:26

I will forego this paperwork for you. But I am going to charge you more than if you fill it out. Boom. Yeah, premium service acquired. Because you're taking a risk. So you should charge more money?

Collin  58:41

Well, and I didn't, I didn't know if like, one of the thought one of the thoughts that I did have was it was going, should I like, not show them this form? Should I just show up to their to their home with like a pad of paper and just pretend like I'm thinking of these random questions off the top of my head, take my answers that they give me and go put them into the system and then just show them that magically. Here's a profile for you already said and done. Like, I could do that. But I don't want to waste my time with sitting in front of the person to then look at information and go actually this is not a good fit. Right? Like I don't I don't want I don't want to do that to waste their time before you show up. Yeah. And then I'm like I want to I to go. Okay, well, thank you for calling and thank you for the quick information. I'd like to schedule another phone call with you to go over additional information like because it's ah, it's just easier if they do it but they don't know that yet. Because they haven't experienced it so whatever. Yeah. I don't know. Maybe you should put

Brandon  1:00:01

In your opening of the questionnaire, right, just make sure you have something that's like, in order to save us time on our visit on our first home meeting where we get to meet face to face, go ahead and fill out this in advance so we can get right to business. And we don't delay in getting started servicing your pet.

Collin  1:00:25

Yeah, yeah. Hello should

Brandon  1:00:28

Twister Reno on it. Like, in order to make in order to get to dog walking faster, and whatever, like go ahead and fill this out in advance so that we can hit the ground running. People like that word, right? Those marketing, digital marketing people will like that to hit the ground running. have this done. And

Collin  1:00:52

I want that.

Brandon  1:00:56

I hate that phrase. I don't put that in there. But something to that effect, right. Like, make it seem like by filling this out now. It's going to benefit them.

Collin  1:01:07

Whenever they have the face to face meeting, right? Yes, yeah. Yeah.

Brandon  1:01:14

Anything else?

Collin  1:01:21

Right, and I don't, and then I'm like, I get self conscious, because I don't want to just word vomit. About everything, because I do that anyway, like the other day. So just a side note here. I took seven phone calls today. None of them were we could help. Right? So like, that's where if some of this I don't know, right, seven, seven people. But I got a phone call the other day. And I did my usual spiel. And I was I was truthfully not very paying attention. And it was a little like, because here's the people that go, they go, I Oh, hi. I've, I've never done anything like this before. I were really nervous. You know, it's not normal for us. But up,

Brandon  1:02:08

I want you to makes it sound like so sketchy. Like, I've never done this before. It's like you're buying drugs, right? Like

Collin  1:02:16

they're gonna ask where the drop is right? And I'm like, yo, there's this. And then they go. Well, I do want to know about your, your boarding services. And I'm like, that's, that's interesting. Because I don't have those. I've tried so many tactics. It's not even funny. Like, at first I was like, I'm not going to start negative. I don't, I don't want to start my sentence by saying we don't do that. But let me tell you what we do. I was like, I'm not going to do that. So I'm like, Oh, is there a particular reason you need that? And they're like, Ah, I'm going on vacation. And I'm like, wait, okay, like, there's so many just the conversation trees that I've been down. It all boils down to this. They're like, Ah, no, I'm not comfortable with that at all. I don't like that. But one guy. I said, was the reason you're needing that? He was like, no, that's just what we do. And I was like, Oh, great. Let me tell you about what we do. And I like rattled on. And he goes, Yeah, that's all kinds of Spanish to me. So I guess Thanks. Have a good day. Buy a car.

Brandon  1:03:25

Look, how is this confusing? Leave your dog at your house. I'll come to your house. I'll walk your dog.

Collin  1:03:33

I'll feed your dog. I'll leave.

Brandon  1:03:39

Done, like I don't. Like I know. Okay, so I think people have, okay, I think I've cracked here. I think people have a big misconception about what boarding a dog.

Collin  1:03:53

Right? So when people say, I'm going to board my dog someplace, they think that the dog is going to go be with somebody like 24/7. Right? What actually happens?

Brandon  1:04:13

This is not in 100% of places. Okay, I'm aware of that. But generally, what's going to happen is your dog is going to go to a facility. They're gonna stick him in a crate

Collin  1:04:27

or like a kennel like it, you know, and then there's gonna leave them in there. Uh huh. And they're not going to

Brandon  1:04:37

they're just gonna leave him in there. And then like once a day, they'll come by and throw food at them.

Collin  1:04:44

And then something they have like

Brandon  1:04:45

a sometimes they have like a playtime certainly they like to they put them in like a run someplace. It's just like

Collin  1:04:50

they have a dog run. And that's the boarding their little kennel goes to a dog run that's outside the door. I can run on the run, or come inside. And that's it.

Brandon  1:05:05

Some of them have like the play daycare situation, but it's only for like, it's still only like 2030 minutes they're played with, and then they go back in again. All

Collin  1:05:17

right, this is how dog boarding works. So like,

Brandon  1:05:24

I don't understand how that is better than leaving the dog at their own house, with their own food, and their own bed in their own territory. And then a person coming there to see the dog in a much bigger area where they're more comfortable. But I don't understand that. I don't understand how that is like, a boarding a dog is like, the better option. Right? Now this comes from my own personal experience as a pet owner, right? Our dog.

Collin  1:06:02

Right, Chuck had like, he was a he

Brandon  1:06:07

needed medicine he needed like later in his life, or he needed medicine he needed like to eat certain food, otherwise, it made him sick, right? Because he had like stomach stuff.

Collin  1:06:16

So like, my,

Brandon  1:06:19

like point of view, is definitely heavily influenced by that experience of being like, I need to make sure that my dog has these things, because that's what he needs to be healthy. Right. And if I just take him to boredom somewhere, like, he might not get that. You know what I mean? Whereas if somebody were able to come to my house, and just like, feed my dog, the same food, He always eats, at the same time he eats every day, it takes him out to go the bathroom,

Collin  1:06:49

like this is better.

Brandon  1:06:53

This is a better experience, right? He's gonna like it more stressed out like you won't, like, you don't mean so like, my experience is based on my experience as a pet owner with my dog that was like, experience a lot of trauma and was like very he didn't like people and stuff like that. Anyway, so like, this is just like the thing this, this makes more sense to me. Like I don't understand. Like, I think people think like boarding a dog is like some sort of like palatial experience, right? Where they get, like, all kinds of like fancy dancy stuff, and there are some boring places that do that. Right? I'm not saying that those don't exist. But like, on the whole, a lot of the times it's like, dog goes to dog kennel.

Collin  1:07:36

They sit there.

Brandon  1:07:39

Maybe somebody comes by feeds them. I mean, they're gonna feed them but like, yeah, maybe they get played with, right? That's the parts. It's like, Who knows if that's gonna happen? Who knows? If they're getting, you know, they're gonna come like, spray the floor down. Like this is a seems to be like a worst experience. Talking about house,

Collin  1:08:02

you know, and it's, it's so it is it is it is weird because I one of the one of the people who we walk their dog like we walked this person's dog called me today and said, Do you provide boarding and I was like, Oh my gosh, I'm just gonna, I'm just gonna throw my phone right now. I was like, No. And then I told him what we offered. And the next phrase from his mouth was, Is that safe? Means that safe is safe. And I went, and my my brain was like, What do you mean? Because in my mind, kennelling is like, Okay, you have them exposed to other dogs in a random environment. multiple diseases around their coffee is a thing that you can get kennel cough, also, hey, hey, pet owners out there. Just because you go to a kennel and there are people there during the daytime? Doesn't mean they are not they watch them over to over a over a Wi Fi camera. Maybe? Maybe? Yeah, maybe. So the most of them don't have requirements in order to do that. And so you just like left with them going? Well, they're overnight and sometimes some times, they're last led out at like 6pm. And then they don't get back until like nine or 10 the next day. Anyway,

Brandon  1:09:14

that's something that I think there's a very big misconception about what boarding means.

Collin  1:09:19

Well, and here's but here's, here's why people like boarding and here's why they like daycare, okay? The people, the person the owner likes all of the photos they get of seeing their dog around other dogs. Period, end of story. That's it. They like the group shots that they get with their dog. We're playing run and chase with the other dogs. It gives them the gooey gooey butter feelings. Right that's, that's it. So you

Brandon  1:09:51

need more dogs on staff

Collin  1:09:57

to like, walk with them. Wanna hear? I guess? I guess that's it? I don't really know. I don't know. Um, I still confusing to me. Didn't you layer in some other aspects of people who feel bad that their dog is being left alone? overnight? You feel bad that that left alone anyway? Well, here's like you're sleeping. What do you think your dog is doing while you're there overnight? It's not playing? No. Okay. Yeah, it's sleep. But so then, then the other aspect of this comes in where you go, okay. Some people may go, I'm not comfortable letting a stranger into my home that I can understand. Ah, it makes sense. Totally get this. Absolutely. And then that's when I say, I understand. That's why I

Brandon  1:10:53

or we call around check.

Collin  1:10:56

Training, pet first aid and CPR certification, right? We are bonded. We are licensed. We also carry specific insurance for this. Also, you didn't ask about this, but we carry workers compensation. So in case one of my employees rips a toenail wide open on a baby gate your house, they don't sue you and go to your homeowners insurance policy. They come to me right like, like, I know, you didn't ask about that kind, sir. But let me tell you. That's true. You know, ah, yeah, it's a but but getting people to that point, if they've got these rich, gooey, gooey feelings that they want to have. It's a you can't crack that. You can't crack that through that. Only people who go, Oh, I'm really desperate, right? So that's where we're like, I'm, like, trying all these different tactics. And unfortunately, it's like, each person is a new guinea pig and wants, desires and needs so it's not replicable. But at least I'm trying these different avenues of like my Choose Your Own Adventure conversation of like, they said this, okay. And now I know now I know why. When you when a company calls you and they're like, hi, we like a bank, or aura. Oh, I was looking. Okay. I was looking at switching switching internet companies. Internet stay on right now, state states. Don't make it angry. But in a very creepy way I entered it. They have to do the like, enter your address to see if you have service here. Okay. Oh, yeah,

Brandon  1:12:32

we get that the other day, too. Okay, I did that.

Collin  1:12:35

I kind of phone call. back from that. Day. You may be asking, Colin, did you enter a phone number? The answer is

Brandon  1:12:43

no. Just the address. Yeah. What was the address, right?

Collin  1:12:47

And they said, Hey, we noticed you were on our website and didn't didn't order anything. Can we ask why? And my goal now was like, shut this down as fast as possible, like, stop talking to me. And I said, I said, Thank you for calling. I'm not interested in switching my services, and job. What did he say? He said, Oh, well, you know, he didn't want to keep that conversation going. And I so detest and hate this, that I desperately don't want to turn into this kind of person. Yeah, true. Right. But also, it's like, I kind of see now like, I know why, because they're trying to get information figure out like if they can help you if they're not also they know, the longer they keep you on the phone, the more likely you are to purchase something and blah, blah, all the disgusting stuff that happens there. But it's like, ah,

Brandon  1:13:37

anyway. Yeah, well, they can do that. Right. That's like a you get like, promotional emails from websites you just like visit, like even if you didn't like order stuff from him, but like, Oh, hey, here's this thing. Are you still

Collin  1:13:50

interested? You know, I'm even doing stuff. Yeah.

Brandon  1:13:57

Like I didn't buy anything from you.

Collin  1:14:00

Get out of here. It's great. What I'd love it is love it. I don't want it. So I agree. Yes. That's that's what we're having fun with.

Brandon  1:14:12

That's pretty fun. I didn't think of one more thing I'd been doing before. Sure.

Collin  1:14:17

I have been working on

Brandon  1:14:20

my pizza crust recipe. Tom done.

Collin  1:14:24

Oh, what? Well, yes, I have been cooking things like this. Me a person famous for not being able to cook things has been cooking. Ah,

Brandon  1:14:40

I've been toying with pizza crust recipes.

Collin  1:14:44

So we must say tonight.

Brandon  1:14:48

Particularly delicious experiment happens. Oh, yeah. Hey, oh, it's been sort of messing around and like practicing and learning how to make things. It has been very exciting. I made

Collin  1:15:01

some garlic pasta the other day to look at that thing I made using the power of the internet for good. making pasta for supper. It's really for my most excellent. So yeah, that's the family been doing that. But yeah, it's a pizza tonight. So pretty good stuff. Pretty good. I found out did some research figured out what's going on with a pizza dough bites not so good. So gotta be more patient,

Brandon  1:15:38

man. Gotta be more patient.

Collin  1:15:39

Gotta let the dough just sit there for like, a day. Why there? Yeah,

Brandon  1:15:45

he's gotta leave it. Yeah, no, yeah. So there's one of the I just put like, you see, like a little bit of yeast. Just a little bit, and you put it over there. And you don't even, like mix it up. At least leave it? Don't even look at it. Yeah, don't even look at it, put it over there. Leave it. Like we left it for a day, I put everything in the refrigerator for a part of that, too, right? Like, leave it out for a while to kind of start based on the Fred. Wild boom. And it like, actually, it really gives the yeast a lot more time to develop, like naturally. And like a do its thing, right? If you put some of the things, some of the stuff I read, like if you proof pizza dough, like you do bread dough.

Collin  1:16:33

It's like, not real good. And it makes it way

Brandon  1:16:37

too heavy. And like, the yeast just goes insane. And it's like way too much yeast. And it's actually

Collin  1:16:41

like, not great. So this was much more successful this time. So yeah, so I've been doing making pizza dough. Right? So what? What prompted the pizza dough because you were on a pasta kick. And now you're into? Well, I've been using both, right?

Brandon  1:17:11

I'm expanding my repertoire is actually what prompted this. Right. It's like it's impasto. I made a couple of pasta dishes. Right? Like I said it made some garlic oil pasta.

Collin  1:17:22

I leave.

Brandon  1:17:25

Hold on. I'm gonna apologize in advance you all Italians. Okay. spaghetti aglio olio. Right. garlic oil, pasta, churchman, some of that, very nice. And then expanding upon last like, Okay, I have made pizza before. So we're going to try to make it better.

Collin  1:17:50

So that's what that's the that's the impetus there. So I'm just

Brandon  1:17:56

adding a list to things I can make. Right, which is still not a very big list.

Collin  1:18:03

But there we go. Maybe that should be the first oh brother video series. Brandon cooks things badly Yeah, it's pretty good.

Brandon  1:18:22

Did some more experimenting? Did some too much like red sauce? Gives you some really bad heartburn. Right like the tomato acid, or things that gives her so go to pizza topping recipe currently is no pasta sauce whatsoever. Again, Italian still listen to this part. Okay, don't don't we just you've been using pesto instead. Oh, right. So like pizza, pesto. And then tonight I mixed in with the pesto some like other spices, some like garlic patter and some like basil and oregano and some low salt and stuff. And some red pepper flakes. mix it in with the pesto to make it more like saucy. Yeah. And then then mozzarella. And then we did dice tomato. Because the dice robots don't ever too bad a harbor and then black olives. And sometimes spinach, but we forgot that we didn't have any spinach. So

Collin  1:19:28

it was very good.

Brandon  1:19:28

It's very like light.

Collin  1:19:30

Very good.

Brandon  1:19:32

That's really good. Like you don't even really notice those no red sauce on it. Unless heartburn is always good, so that's

Collin  1:19:45

Well, nice. Well, that sounds that sounds good. That sounds good. Experiment. It's always fun. Yes,

Brandon  1:19:51

it is. And I was afraid this time it wasn't gonna work because I tried a new earth. Like I said it's new. I was very worried but it actually turned out the best pizza dough yet so

Collin  1:20:09

I don't I don't think anybody was making any any pizza dough. But it was warm. Welcome in chapter 10

Brandon  1:20:21

ad is true speaking is warm outside. It's a warm welcome

Collin  1:20:24

are Thorin son of thrain.

Brandon  1:20:29

Son of thrower

Collin  1:20:33

yes as we are reminded, of course, of course of course. Of course. Yeah, this

Brandon  1:20:40

guy very pretty short little chapters, right? These ones aren't too bad. But this is kind of the warm welcome was kind of a weird one. Right?

Collin  1:20:51

Did you find that as well? What do you think by the staffer? Yes, this, this is this was odd. Again, one of not much action, but more just positioning and readying us for something else. But it's, it is very odd because again, it's this is another one where it's like it's taking so much time. If you again, as I know last time we talked about this of like, and a few weeks passed or like and maybe like that's all this chapter is relative like and like we know kind of at the end it feels like kind of overstayed their welcome and needed to leave.

1:21:31

Yeah, right. That's

Brandon  1:21:34

kind of what I was doing. But like immediately you do get like we're starting to get some foreshadowing right about this because like, in this after, like they come to the thing about they're getting over to Lake town when they're bred before they let him out of the barrels. Bilbo sees the mountain for the first time. And immediately doesn't like it immediately has a sense of like, Oh, like this, like foreboding sense of like,

Collin  1:22:06

oh, I don't want to go there.

Brandon  1:22:10

Right. Yeah, it seemed to frown at him and threatened him as it drew even ever nearer. So like, we like immediately, right? The beginning of the chapter, we have this like, oh, okay, we have some foreboding, like we're moving forward. But it's, you know, he's been through a lot of stuff already. But like the side of this mountain, kind of gives him a really uneasy feeling. And that's saying a lot being where he's come from. Right. He was in a goblin cave. It was almost eaten by trolls. II met Gollum in the dark Lake. He killed a bunch of spiders. He was in a dungeon. And the mountain is giving him a really big sense of dread.

Collin  1:22:55

That's bad, right? Yeah, he's not really in a good. Yeah, it's just in this increasing foreboding, bad mental space for him right now. Yeah. Yeah, I don't think so. And

Brandon  1:23:11

like he said, the rest of this chapter like a lot of this is just like talking about getting them a lot of barrels. And about how upset they were to be in a barrel and biller still Sessoms. Like, what? Did you have a better plan? I know it's suck. Come on.

Collin  1:23:28

Is your quest Get up? Why am I doing all the work? Which is very funny, right? But now, right, we have this

Brandon  1:23:44

we have this, all this they get the thing, they decided to go into Lake town, because they're like, where should we go? And like, well, we there's really only one place to go. Right here. There is nowhere else. I guess we could go there.

Collin  1:24:02

Because, yes, that's all that there is. And now we actually get

Brandon  1:24:11

another perspective for a little bit, right? Not necessarily like a character perspective. But like, now we hear from the people of Laketown.

Collin  1:24:24

We hear

Brandon  1:24:27

like them talking and like before they get there. They're kind of mentions a little bit like, ah, you know, the people of Laketown only the really old people kind of remember if there were dwarves there, you know? Yeah, the only the older people talk about the dwarves coming to reclaim the mountain. Right and they want that kind of because trade is drying up. Right? Not a lot of trade going on in Lake town. Their economy is suffering because As the you know that not a lot of train is coming from the Forest River. And they're kind of mad the LLS because they're not like taking care of it or whatever. Not a lot of trade coming from the south, there's been some flooding and some stuff. And so like, it's just kind of downtrodden. Right? And so the older people remember the good old days, right when when Dale was still around and in the dwarves lived in the mountain and train it with everybody. So only they really remember that time. Right? And like it's mentioned somewhere in here specifically that like, the young people didn't even believe there was a dragon. Yes. Which is a problem. Right? Like they're problematic. Yeah. But like, they don't like this is all they've ever known is this, like, this time? And so like, they don't have any context for what the before time was like, they kind of don't believe some of the stories because they're like, it couldn't have been that great. Like how bad it is now. Right? Like? Yeah, have some generational differences in Laketown.

Collin  1:26:13

Which is interesting,

Brandon  1:26:14

right? To interesting detail to throw in there, that these events happen just long enough ago, that only the

Collin  1:26:20

older people remember them going on. I thought that was very interesting. Yeah, and I know throughout this to like, well, I backing up just a little bit. I like how this introduction takes place of, of how we get the thrower son of three instead of blah, blah, and he's talking to the guard. And

Brandon  1:26:49

that's right after the products talk about that's well, yeah,

Collin  1:26:51

sorry, sorry. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. And he's going to take us to your master. And the captain goes, Oh, he said his beast. And then he goes, here's all the more reason to take us to him. Yeah. It's like, you're just taken right off into that. But yes, it is the set of there are these old songs, there's things people don't remember. And so it's interesting, how that how that is set up, as our characters walk into that, right, because we need to be aware of why people are going to react the way they're going to react. We need to know. Yeah, why this is a big deal to people. And, and that, and what what a stir and commotion that is going to cause as they come into this, like, yeah, most of the people alive have don't believe any of this. And so I, it kind of sets yourself up for going yeah, how is this gonna go? Like, what are people gonna expect? or think or, or otherwise? Yeah, and

Brandon  1:27:50

it's even the, it says here, you know, talking about even the master didn't really believe like, he's like, because yeah, Thorin comes in, you know, I am Thorin sort of thrain sort of thrower and

Collin  1:28:00

they're like, really? Wow.

Brandon  1:28:06

Alright, really, maybe, you know, is that true as the master right, as a matter of fact, he thought it far more likely than the Return of the King of the Mountain that if any sixth person ever existed, like, you know, I guess you could be their son because I didn't really think the guy would come back. So you know. So it's, yeah, the fact that like, they even show up claiming to be this person is like, kind of doubted, they're like, he, I didn't know. I didn't think that was real. Right. You know, and you know, Thorens like, expecting everyone to know who he is. And they're like, What?

Collin  1:28:45

A shirt. Hello, hi, believe you. Oh, yes. Yeah, they

Brandon  1:28:56

kind of do their best to convince them that they are them right. And they kind of you know, go into the feast and their feast they sing the song right? They you know, talk about like the history a little bit of the thing. You know, they rounded the rest of the dogs in and people welcome them because they they start

Collin  1:29:23

dreaming about like,

Brandon  1:29:26

you know, it says like, they almost immediately imagine like the lake just turned gold because right imagining like the trade resuming and they think like, well if this person really is who he says is, this is a boon for us, right because it will make us more prosperous. So I guess we should be happy they're here. Right?

Collin  1:29:48

Well, and then they break into song singing some old songs and some new ones right of as he said, like they get really caught up of like sudden death. The Dragons just going to be dead right and There's gonna be the rich presents that are gonna be flowing from the mountain and everybody's immediately caught up and they don't quite care I guess really who this person is or whether they say or not, but they just get caught up in Yeah, now this thing is gonna happen it's gonna be great.

Brandon  1:30:15

Yeah, I like that this is a this is these were largely inspired by the master and did not particularly leave the doors.

Collin  1:30:25

But now we get some character insight into the master and like, he's really good at his job. Right? He's really good at staying power keeping people on his side. Yeah, yeah, that's the case. I

Brandon  1:30:37

mean, it feels like that's already the kind of person he is because like if the whole town is kind of like in shambles, and he's at a feast.

Collin  1:30:43

Like, those are

Brandon  1:30:48

incongruent statements. Right? So even that line, we know what kind of person we're dealing with right now. Right? Exactly.

Collin  1:30:56

A great dude. Probably

Brandon  1:30:58

right? Like, what do you mean a feast? Like these people don't have any food? And he's like, Yes, I'm having a face like.

Collin  1:31:13

A, but

Brandon  1:31:14

Bilbo through all of this, like the dwarves are getting pumped up because they can see the mountain and they're excited. The people of Lake town are excited along their initial arrival here. And, you know, Bilbo. Not so much right. Even though talks about hear that the dwarfs are continuing the good feelings toward Bilbo are growing. They ever hear they drink to his health, and they patted him on the back. And they made a great fuss over him, which was just as well for he was not feeling particularly cheerful. Yes, he had not forgotten the look of the mountain, nor thought of the dragon. And he had besides a shocking cold. So like, he's, he's sick

Collin  1:31:56

of that. Lest we forget he Oh, and also, he's very

Brandon  1:32:01

sick, right? Still, but also this like he you can kind of like he's, he's not this looking at them out and has affected him somehow, like, Yeah, looks at that and goes, No, I don't want to go there. And so he seems to be the only one with like a big sense of foreboding at the moment, right. Nobody else has voiced a concern. Nobody is upset about seeing this, right.

Collin  1:32:34

But he doesn't really he's not into this, right. He's not excited. Hey, thoughts. Sorry. I had something I still have something stuck in my throat. But

Brandon  1:32:58

after that episode, we still see that the the master is like, I don't really care who these people are. If they're who they are. We just want you know this to go. Good. And then we hit the very end here we get. We know that word travels back to the elf King. Yes. That Yeah. The they're out. Because the other thing is that when they walk into the feast, the elves and elves are there. And they're like, What? Hold on, why are you here? And they were like, hold on. And that. Yeah, they

Collin  1:33:34

said that they were worried that the Elven King had made some grave mistake. And I don't know, I assume. Did they mean he had made a mistake in capturing him? Or? And like having wronged him in that way? Or do they mean that he had made a mistake in maybe they thought he was let go? Right? That kind of thing? Like I don't, I was unsure what they thought the mistake was.

Brandon  1:33:57

Yeah, I think it's sort of ambiguous, really? Because I wasn't really sure either. But

Collin  1:34:03

I mean, yeah,

Brandon  1:34:05

maybe this is what he was like. Oh, like, oh, he he's like how did they get out there? So surprised? Like Nobody escapes from the hills dungeon like what are you doing here? Right. So that's, that's going so the the elf King hears about this. He's not very happy. He doesn't really believe they could be the dragon anyway. So he was just like whatever. And he sends out a spies and then like, kind of towards the end of the chapter here. Right after that. We get the, the master was surprised and he was kind of, you know, he was sort of starting to believe that Oren is who he said he was. Right? And he was like, maybe he is gonna go and then he starts getting worried like what's going to happen if they go up there and the drill It's still there like that thought it was his mind. Finally he's like, Oh, wait, hold on. What if they go to fight the dragon and lose?

Collin  1:35:07

But he also, you know, they either you know something would be found out and but he's mostly concerned with that they're rather expensive to keep right at the end of the day he's like, this is quite costly. You're eating lots of food plus nobody's working because they're so excited for

Brandon  1:35:24

you how they're supposed to everybody else is celebrating so he's like, Oh, no, we do have is not happening.

Collin  1:35:31

And I love how he's like He has this thought where he's like, what's he say? He goes, let them go and bother smog and see how he welcomes them. He thought because he's he's tired of welcoming them. So he'll at small go deal with them. And then he he currently goes take turns and you can just see what a politician of like, now doing it now you must go and claim what's yours and leave me please.

Brandon  1:35:55

Yeah, so we're getting a peek here at this master guy.

Collin  1:35:58

Who is he doesn't really seem just like he's not real great.

Brandon  1:36:03

Right? We can we're just getting just enough information on him to know that he is not really a very trustworthy guy that you want to, like hang out with.

Collin  1:36:14

Which you know, I

Brandon  1:36:15

think probably also worries Bilbo a little bit because Thorin is just like Yeah, buddy blah, blah. And Bill was like no.

Collin  1:36:27

He's ready to go.

Brandon  1:36:28

Yeah, and even through all this stuff, right? All this stuff. They made it very well. There's a great big send off and blah, blah. And the last line of the chapter. The only person thoroughly unhappy

Collin  1:36:38

was Bill though. Right? He is not he's he's real not excited to go closer to this mountain. Really not? Yeah, he he does not have a good feeling right. At all. And that brings us to Chapter Oh, live in doorstep time. doorstep time. Yep. So we're leaving this like, awkward. Send off. Bilbo is moody. Everyone else is super excited and pumped and launched Dino and super ready to go. And then they start they got disembark. And it seems like get again pretty quick. Their. Their spirits. Spirits kind of dropped.

Brandon  1:37:31

Yeah, the dwarves are a moody bunch. Right? Turns out like they are quite moody. They, they get up there, they take the river up towards the mountain,

Collin  1:37:41

right? They really quickly

Brandon  1:37:47

get up to like, they're going up the river. And then like this scenery starts to change quite a bit, right? There was little grass. And before long, there was neither Bush nor tree and only broken in black and stump stumps to speak of ones long vanished. They were come to the desolation of the dragon.

Collin  1:38:13

What a wonderful name, by the way.

Brandon  1:38:15

Uh, yeah. Right. Like,

Collin  1:38:17

Ah, okay.

Brandon  1:38:20

So it's interesting, right from from last chapter. We have like, all these these big groups of people like sort of doubting that this is even a true story. Right? We have people in Lake town doubting that there ever was a dragon. And right here by four paragraphs in to chapter 11. We have visible evidence. Yes, of Dragon activity.

Collin  1:38:51

Which unfortunately, none of the Laketown people saw because they Yeah, they left. Yeah.

Brandon  1:38:57

A couple of them did because they still had they still have they still had like two guys with them at this point. Right. Oh, right around. They turned around quite quickly after this. Yes. But like, yeah, they they now have very, very clear evidence. Like if anybody was doubting if Bilbo was doubting there was a dragon at all. There is here we go. Right. We saw it

Collin  1:39:25

and then yeah, so we, you know,

Brandon  1:39:31

we have some pretty bad you know, devastation, right? And then they keep going and they find the old watch Watchtower what it is? Yeah. He houses towers and walls. Here lies all that is left of Dales and Bollin. The mountainsides are green with woods in the sheltered valley, rich and pleasant in the days where the bells rang

1:39:52

in that tab.

Brandon  1:39:54

And he looks sad and grim and this and so we've seen we found more evidence. Here's the town

Collin  1:40:00

There was a town here where it's much, yeah.

Brandon  1:40:10

But then the rest of the chapter is this them, like

Collin  1:40:15

trying to find this door. Right? So, again,

Brandon  1:40:19

they're all in good spirits. They get up here. They're pretty excited. And then they can't find anything and they get like real

Collin  1:40:28

grumpy. It's very weird, right? Like, they really do again, get gloomy immediately. And yeah, they're just, they're very dejected as they walk around. Yeah. And they're,

Brandon  1:40:43

you know, Bilbo is the only one that looks at the map. So he's like, obsessively looking at the map, and trying to figure out what's going on. He finds it very interesting, because we know that Bilbo likes maps and stuff already. It kind of reminds you that he just thinks that kind of interesting. Yeah. And so, you know, they look around. I think, again, this is a long time of just like being out in the wilderness, sort of like wandering.

Collin  1:41:05

You know what I mean? It's a lot. It is a lot. We have some, we have some stuff here. And

Brandon  1:41:14

then they get a side note here. I can't help it. This isn't like really

Collin  1:41:19

anywhere.

Brandon  1:41:22

In like, if there's, I really feel right, sometimes when I'm reading about the dwarves, I cannot help but compare them to like, biblical stories of like, the Jewish Diaspora. Right? Oh, like, wandering, looking for the home, this kind of thing, right? It's really feels like that. It's a very, like, it's like this big illusion the whole time. It's, like, very unsaid, but it just feels like that it feels like kind of inspiration for these, like these

Collin  1:41:53

Dwarven people, right? Like,

Brandon  1:41:57

it's just a connection that I made to this, like, a lot. And I don't know if anybody else gets that, or if it's just me reaching at straws. But like,

Collin  1:42:06

is that the the wandering? Is that the like, like, not like people, like, people or people without a home? Set to water? Or what what do you think? Exactly? Yeah, I

Brandon  1:42:18

think that's what it is, right? Like the sense of wonder, the like, this sort of, like, you know, because, like, the biblical stories that when the Jewish people were doing this, and then they were very, like, you know, they would get to a place and then they were, like, unwelcome, and then, like, thrown out like this is this is what happened to the, the plight of the dwarves as well. Right? Yeah, it has this sort of like, mirrored image, like to me, like, it just seems like an allusion to that kind of those kinds of stories about that, right, that's, that's what the dwarves sort of symbolizes. To me in this Middle Earth land, they do feel very much like that. Right? And just just some of the illusions, some of those biblical stories of also wandering for ever, not without a home, that's the big one, obviously, right. But like, but, you know, taking up residence in certain areas, you know, the whole like dem in the elves not getting along thing, right. Like that kind of stuff. It just, that's, you know, having to wander away from that kind of stuff. This is kind of what it feels like. How intentional any of that was, like, that is an illusion that I get. When I read about the dwarfs, right? That's a connection that I make, rightly or wrongly, that is something that I find, like, very strongly, everyone's well, that kind of thought pops in my head like, oh, yeah, this seems like make sense.

Collin  1:43:47

Yeah. I can feel that. Yeah. So anyway,

Brandon  1:43:53

back to wandering on the mountain. They find a path they find a path, right? They just find like, hey, like, where's this path? Go it got some stairs just goes up. And so they're like,

Collin  1:44:05

this must be yes. Thankfully, and Spry young below. Yeah. scamper up there. And they find like what they think is probably this door. Right? Just because it's very, like, you know, it's a secret door.

Brandon  1:44:27

So it's like, not gonna be obvious, but it's like very, like just a big part in the wall. It's like, extremely flat and

Collin  1:44:34

smooth. So they're like, this is probably it. We should come back tomorrow

Brandon  1:44:39

because again, dark, right? So they're like,

Collin  1:44:42

we should come back tomorrow. Yes. And then they they reset camp, like on upon the threshold.

Brandon  1:44:50

Yeah, move closer because they were down by the river. I guess. They move closer to the path not all the way up. Right because they couldn't carry this stuff up the stairs because it's too You steep but they do move

Collin  1:45:01

closer to the thing

Brandon  1:45:08

to be closer so they can expect it more. But then like they can't figure out how to get in. And so they turned morose once again.

Collin  1:45:20

Yeah to yen and they start like

Brandon  1:45:26

chastising Bilbo like, aren't you doing anything?

Collin  1:45:28

He's like you said, to think so I'm

Brandon  1:45:31

thinking, leave me alone.

Collin  1:45:35

Yeah. He said, Well, they're sitting on the doorstep and thinking it would be my job not to mention getting inside. So I'm sitting in thinking, yes. But I'm afraid he was not thinking much of the job, but of what lay beyond the blue distance right now he's at we've gotten the another chance of him thinking about home. Well, I mean, he's looking west. Yeah, up on

Brandon  1:45:56

top of the mountain, and he can see all the places they have been. Right, you can see the black wall of Mirkwood. And in the distance, in which he sometimes thought he could catch a glimpse of the Misty Mountains, small and far. And he can see, like now that he's up high. Like, he he can, like, physically see how far away from home he is. Yeah. Right. And that is an interesting part here where he is, he is sitting and thinking,

Collin  1:46:29

but not about the mountain. Right? He would really rather be

Brandon  1:46:34

anywhere. But this mountain right now, because of his foreboding. And he can, he can almost see. It's like he can almost see home. Right? That's what he's kind of thinking about. He's like, I'm so far away from my home right now. Right? Like, and I can't, I can't even you know, I can see so far. And I still

Collin  1:46:56

can't quite see my, where I come from. Right.

Brandon  1:47:02

And so that, I think is weighing on him. Like right now. And then it's like, he's just so far away, you know?

Collin  1:47:13

But yeah, he said,

Brandon  1:47:14

he was not thinking much about the job for what bleh beyond the blue distance, the quiet Western Land, and the hill and his hobbit hole under it. You know, so he's really distressed by this.

Collin  1:47:26

But even so, he is still sitting there, thinking

Brandon  1:47:35

you know, and then they it's the next day, right? He goes back out there, he's still thinking again,

Collin  1:47:41

and all of a sudden he goes, he gets an idea, right? You might understand

Brandon  1:47:50

it clicks the map the riddle the you know, the thing on there, he solves it. And he starts you know, yelling

Collin  1:48:00

and they'll run over there.

Brandon  1:48:03

And you know, he explained to them you know, except for Bombur who was of course asleep obviously you know sorry Bombur oh yeah as is his way for bomber sleep nap and through the whole adventure here he he understands what's happening right and it's not you know, they don't recap it here for us which is interesting choice but they were you go back and read the thing about the last light of Durance day or whatever. He realizes this is moon light, right perhaps emboldened by his riddle battle in the cave. Right? We see. We see what a quick witted puddles puzzle solver below is and so of course he was able to ponder this out and just as you know, because you know, they probably gave up too early before they like it was getting dark we gotta go so he's like no stay

Collin  1:48:59

here and there's a cracking noise in a keyhole appears that time on

Brandon  1:49:11

right yeah,

Collin  1:49:11

right the key the key were storing

Brandon  1:49:13

Yeah, we're still storing

1:49:17

the key the key credible But where's Thorin? And it's an excellent is thorough and hurried up. Yeah, like far away being morose somewhere who knows? Yeah,

Brandon  1:49:30

this door opens right a door five feet high and three feet broad was outlined which is huge for Hobbit i That's a little short for me to walk through. You would never make it through that door but

Collin  1:49:47

nope. But, but as to

Brandon  1:49:52

even increase the sense of foreboding write the end of this chapter.

Collin  1:49:58

I love this. Right. I

Brandon  1:50:00

love this like painting the scene here this. It seemed as if the darkness flowed out like a vapor from the hole in the mountainside. And this deep darkness in which nothing could be seen lay before their eyes, a yawning mouth leading in and down. Mm hmm, ah, no, I'm not going to

Collin  1:50:23

write. This is,

Brandon  1:50:24

this is how the chapter ends. We've had all this build up. We know Bilbo doesn't like this. We this is built up as a place of foreboding when he saw from far

Collin  1:50:33

away,

1:50:35

as we get closer, we see the desolation of the dragon. You see that this is not a really just a great place to be the dwarves.

Brandon  1:50:47

Maybe the dwarves are affected by this, too.

1:50:50

Maybe this is why they're so morose. All of a sudden, right, because they're very dour as hell. Yeah. So again, you know, perhaps, that is, you know, perhaps they're

Brandon  1:51:02

being affected also. And they don't like notice it like Bilbo does. But then to be left with that. At the end. Yeah. Yes. Love that language is very evocative of how much you don't want to go in there.

Collin  1:51:21

Yeah, and that is a good point about the moodiness of it, because I know later we, we know or we are informed about the, the effects of, of, of dragon of wind? Yeah, yeah. Right on people and things so that I wouldn't be surprised if there is some of that in addition to the dwarves tendency to just be moody, in general, right.

Brandon  1:51:45

Maybe Yeah, that's not helping. Well, let's

Collin  1:51:47

be real. No, no. No. So yeah, it is. It had that description is is great. And yeah, it says both. Like, this is not a nice place to be. You don't want to be here. So

1:52:02

yeah,

Brandon  1:52:03

get ready. Yeah. And I just like the juxtaposition that we have pretty close together of, of Bilbo wistfully looking out

Collin  1:52:12

to the west of

Brandon  1:52:16

the home, to where, you know, to the wire where the good things are, all the good things are in the West. Right. And then when I looked in this mountain, I looked down the black hole, right? This like a black leeching out, like it's so black and foreboding, like the thought of the blackness oozing out into the moonlight, right, like, this is great, clear, elegant, not a good place to go. Yeah. And, and in just that juxtaposition of Bilbo, looking off in the distance to where it's much brighter. It looks much more pleasant and far, even though it's far away, home is that way. And right here, right now, I don't want to be here because this place is terrible.

Collin  1:53:05

Very interesting. It's also very interesting that you know, just token wise

Brandon  1:53:11

that we're looking westward back onwards, the good things back to the Hobbit, right? Because of course valen ordered the land of the gods is across the western scene. Right. So that's also interesting tech, they're looking back towards the west to goodness, right.

Collin  1:53:31

Up to a little bit of a not really shattering a foreshadowing, but just thematically just little fanatically putting it all in?

Brandon  1:53:38

Yeah. So that's where we're left here against love in that chapter. So good. But it is definitely cliff hanger. On a cliff right? Yes, we do. So we will see how that goes. Next, I did forget to mention it but it's somewhere we also glossed over randomly, they're talking about how they missed the handoff. And like it's print sees the narrator's like little would they know but Gandalf is presently done with his business. We shall see if he can wink wink nudge nudge Yeah, like nothing really funny. Little

1:54:34

Little did they know it little did they know it's good.

Brandon  1:54:40

But for now, we are left foreboding on the steps of blackness.

Collin  1:54:52

Very good. Well, Lots. Lots look forward to

1:54:55

not if you're Bilbo know

Collin  1:54:59

to look For two isn't there's a lot to think about and consumed mind

Brandon  1:55:04

puts out that's true. Yeah. But he's now looking forward to going you know, he knows now that he has to do some Ergoline not excited.

1:55:18

Not even a little bit. Well, we'll see. We'll pick back up there.

Collin  1:55:23

All right. Nice to do. Very good. Yes. Okay. Love you, loves you. Bye bye