High Fantasy Critics
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- "It's a Tuesday, whatever"
- we're fans of the 13th warrior....come at us
- we have a lot of very unpopular opinions about films
- Aaron goes on an "epic" date
- it wasn't as cool as David Copperfield
- who are the blue wizards?
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Hello, lot, a lot. Not a lot. Not. Not a lot. Yes. Big difference now this weekend or nothing. I didn't catch. Okay. My bad.
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Hey man, how are you?
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I don't think he's on yet.
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No, I didn't. I thought he was.
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He's Texas trying to Hello.
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Hi. Hi. Sorry. So trying to log into Skype. It's like, Hey, no, we don't remember any of your information. And I was like, Okay, cool. So I pretty much read that everything. And it's like, all right, we got you back and then it just immediately kicked me off the Skype.
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So I
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had to update
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it did you do have your video on Aaron?
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He not anymore. Okay.
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It was never It was never on the whole time. I know
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you're right. I don't know that's talking about Yeah.
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It's again,
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rude
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and his eyes
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can't see.
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We are sitting a bulldog named Rawlings. Yes.
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Rolling, rolling like a ball. Yes, yeah, baseball.
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Yeah, he's a they're huge sport fans. Sport ball fans are involved. football and
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having that. I bet he's so cute though
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is his little his little chunk.
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One of my one of my friends, his family, they have they they had
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a litter full of Brittany puppies.
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And he is trying so hard to get me to take one of them. But at one point in time they had this Bulldog and she I think she was like an English bulldog but she was just so massive. And that was the only one that every time we go over there I was the only one that would give it love. And I'd be like Aaron take this dogs like no you guys keep her They're so cute. And you just sit there that
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no sound going on. I was like oh this is such a cute puppy.
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Love Yes. But that sound that I'm that I'm not going to do into the microphone so I don't destroy it is a thank you. That's the sound of veterinary bills just going up.
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Exactly rising
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without like dogs they always go the vet like every five seconds you have taken in their nasal know, all kinds of stuff.
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Q Bobby's is what it is.
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I have anti microbial wipes that I have to use in all of the folds and the facial facial area.
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Yeah. Which is so much fun. It's all 7000 of them. That's
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Yeah, that go
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like second knuckle deep around his face. The
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fun
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these are the same people that they have two to Brittany puppies
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that are You know, kinda like What uncle Gary had?
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Yeah. And uh, we used to have one A long time ago. Do you not remember this?
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Was this Jesse? Jesse? Yeah, yeah, Jesse. And they try so hard to get me to take one of them. But then I'm like, Well, I have to if I take one, I have to take two of them.
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But that's not how it works, you
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know, but then the then I was like, but you know, I'm never home so I can't.
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But there was Oh, cute puppies run everywhere. Ours used to jump over that six foot fence like it was nothing. No, we. Yeah, that is true. Then that neighbor. Do you remember that neighbor? That was like mega far away. There was like, every once a while they'd be like, yeah, we have your dog. Like
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remember mom, good. Job joining us over there
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to go pick her up. Yes.
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It was it was like it was several Mike Myers. miles away if I remember correctly
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Yeah, it was quite far sounds about right I imagine it was the dog rat was probably shorter well yeah in the in the driving route it was much more circuitous driving around there but like yeah I mean just call every once in a while yeah your dogs eating with our dogs again whoops it happens we forgot
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I was I was talking to somebody about about dogs and they somehow brought up German short hairs and
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an expert on I had had a good
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good reminisce lots about this. But uh, you know, Jen and Kira and then Harley
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Dean, the
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running his dogs ever. Second, I'm just gonna run always, always forever.
And I'm gonna keep poking my nose in this thing that bites me in the face every year, this thing you call a snake. I'm just gonna,
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every year, every year all the time,
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I'm just going to change this whole. Every year.
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My face is going to swell the size of a cantaloupe.
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Yes. And then I'm going to forget it. next spring. Yes. In the doing again. k? Oh, no, you got it.
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They were they were good dogs. They were dumb, but they were good.
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That's fair. That's fair.
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I made the number one time I was teaching you were talking about dogs in class. And I brought them up and they're like, well, what kind of dogs were they? there? I was like, Well, you know, it's a you know, they're kind of like the dogs from where the red Fern Grows. And then my fifth grade students asked me is like, what, what's that book about? I'm like, nope, you're too young to have your heart broken. I will Not telling you which is like
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that's like the reading level of that book. That's like exactly who's
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really we read in the middle school.
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really know it's like a fifth grade reading level book. I might even be less it's not a very high level
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of those just the
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the chapters. Granted I hated reading when I was younger, but now I read everything.
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I think fourth grade was the year that we read all the terribly sad books like we read Bridge to Terabithia. Mm hmm. And we read taste of blackberries. Allen said.
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Yeah,
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Barry's spoilers for the taste of blackberries. The friend dies.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, actually, the whole book is him dealing with that. So like it's dealing with the death of the friend. Yeah, some sort of beasting be allergy and things like that.
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You know? Yeah, we did read that in fourth grade. And I remember Mrs. Oh, who's the principal. Now. What It doesn't matter anyway. But my teacher at the time, not letting me read that book because mom was sick. And they didn't they thought it was. They said it was. They want me reading that because of the content of the book. So I read a different I read a different book that year. I remember that, you know,
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we also read some book that I came across a few years ago at a book fair, and I was like, Oh my gosh, ever and then I have since forgotten the title again. Like I do, but it was about some sort of ghost in this house. Like I don't remember exactly what happened. But there was like, it was like some sort of like, communication between somebody and like a ghost of some sort of like, Civil War era, small girl or something like that. I don't remember what happened.
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I don't remember That one,
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it was odd. And I remember coming across it a couple years ago, and staring at it for a minute. And then reading the back and going, Oh yeah, I've read this. And then, and then probably apparently forgetting what it was called. Just eliminating it from my brain again. So I'm sorry about that. But it was really weird and sad to so forth. It was just a year of sadness. I think. I'm, oh my gosh, what is that?
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So I think I was actually thinking about a book that was
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that fits that. Mo. Just play but
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because I remember reading a book about the Civil War, and it was like some girl that like,
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I don't know if I had ghosts in it, but there's a girl that felt like a union soldier. I don't think they had everyone. Everyone had like yellow fever and everyone died. I'm like, Oh, this is Oh, no.
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I we also read some sort of book about the Underground Railroad.
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Now like a
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button not It wasn't like a it was like after like they moved into a house that was once an underground railroad house.
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Oh, I'm
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is it hold on hold on. I can't remember exactly like the house of dyers dear or something like that. I'm not sure. I think that's what it was
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after after I was kind of not really forced but you know, you had to read the books in middle school and high school I think after reading like The Great Gatsby. I just was not a fan of the book and I think I just mentally shut my brain off. Because I know this I don't like this book at all.
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f Scott Fitzgerald not exactly for everybody. Yeah he's interesting fellow. Right in the basically If you know this fact, that book becomes a lot more interesting. You ready? He basically, he just turned out as many books as he could to get people to buy them because his wife was like a raging party animal and wanted to go out all the time. Yeah. And so,
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yeah. And so when you kind of look at that book in that context you like,
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oh,
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sometimes he would write stuff that was okay. And sometimes he would just like turn out like trash. And I'm not saying The Great Gatsby is trashed by any means. I
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think. I think you're saying it's trash is what I'm hearing. Think so. I mean, I, I don't know. But then again, I just don't
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like a lot of his stuff in general. So like, whatever. But there's some good things like that book at least has like, you know, stuff like deeper meeting stuff in it, right. Some of there's a lot of symbolism and stuff in there. So like It's a little better. But when you do know that his wife was like, all about going out and partying, and basically he was writing to support her spending habits on a slightly new meaning.
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That kind of makes sense. Although I wish that was the same aspect for George RR Martin definitively Game of Thrones books, but yeah, are you know,
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it's fine. It's fine,
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you're going to be finished at some point.
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And offline, I want to finish now. That's true, but at least you know, he's not rushing them. Like, I was thinking about this the other day. And I was like, you know, and then I read, you know, I was thinking about like, Oh, well, this just means that he's not really rushing. And he's not like just being like, oh, we'll just end it like this. Right. So sort of what he's doing. I read this article about it. And kind of what how he explained what's happening is he's sort of like Because he doesn't follow the outline that he's planned. Right, right, clearly, he sort of lets the characters develop organically through his writing process. Right? So he sits there and like, every single thing, because you know, all the chapters are about a person. Yeah. Right. So like, he kind of sits down and goes, is that what this person would do? Right? Is this what tyrian would do? Or that's not or like, if his outline says something, but where his character is, like, emotionally, whatever, he'll kind of sit there for a while and go, No, that doesn't make sense, or you wouldn't do that. Like she wouldn't do that. I have to like, rewrite this. And so that's kind of this weird process that he goes through which like because this is allegedly the second to the last book that he hasn't written yet alleged writing take. Know that means that the next one will just be like, done and out because yeah, like
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Yeah, no. collusion. Yeah. Because there's as
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well. But then again, I mean, the big complaint about at least the TV series is the last two seasons that were Jericho. Characters didn't really act the way people thought they would or didn't have the motives behind them. And so he didn't write, although he didn't write all those. And they, and I mean, in the eye, and I, there was an interview of the show's directors who basically said that when they started, they were not familiar at all with the work and that HBO pushed them to make longer episodes. So they started to fill it with just random stuff.
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And so they kind of got
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rushed into it. And just
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watch those deadlines.
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third season or whatever, cuz I was like, Where are I think maybe one day they started catching up with where the books were. I was like, Well, yeah, like I've done now,
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after season two.
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That's when there's like a big split. That's from the books to the TV series. And I mean, I watched it all the way through, but there was a piece where when George RR Martin, our Martin had like a big like health issue that he told the writers He's like, hey, if I go, this is how I want this the end. And so I'm, I think they
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I think they kind of went off that and
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just sort of, yeah, well, they're like, Alright, so we'll do that. And so,
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but he changed his mind. Again, he started writing these books, and I think the first one came out in 1996. Think about that for a minute.
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Yeah, he's, he's, he's Sam
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came out in 1996 tease that blows my mind. Yes.
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This is kind of like what I learned that
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came out like in
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like, what was it like the 50s and 60s?
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Was it and stuff like that? Was it for that? Was it I think
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it was before that.
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knows. He wrote it. He got the inspiration important. He was in World War One. Yes. But I don't know if it would be if they were actually like published published until like,
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well, he Well, I think because they were published as a series of shorts. But I think like the hobbit came out in 1937.
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Yeah, that's
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okay. Yeah. Yeah, I just I just had to reach over and grab my, my, my my copy there was originally published in 1937. And so the rest of them came out and then he sat the the came after that, but not quickly, I think. I think he has
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a whole bunch of others around Cuz I have some over here I have like December really in here and like,
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what's that called? Yeah.
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The something I hold on I can't reach it, but it's like the unexpect unfinished tales or whatever. stuff.
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Like Yeah. Where he couldn't get this all the like that's like,
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yeah, yeah, probably stuff.
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I don't have I have to put this somewhere because it's not going anywhere right now. Well,
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I mean when you want to talk about both of these people are good examples of like, you want to talk about some dense material I know we generally the day about Warhammer,
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right, like they
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told me Yeah,
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no, no it's so crazy.
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Yeah, it is and the hard part is because he sort of came at it from a a history and linguistic viewpoint
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Yeah, it's
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not always the just the most readable thing.
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No, because when he when he when he's when he's into normally studying the development of ancient languages and history, and then he goes into writing his own. Yeah, there's gonna be a lot more information. That's how he did it. He developed the Oh, he developed those
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languages, like all of the languages in the book like elevation dwarvish, and everything. Like he developed them like, in this weird process of like, how languages develop
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on their own Yeah, I
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thought about them from like a historical, linguistic development perspective and which is like
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that's a weird writers that are writing a book, like yeah, that's what he started with. like, Well, I better write this I better create
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the Elvish language like
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the Hell yeah.
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Like, extrapolated the history of the Elvish people
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in the context of middle
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and middle Based on their language you like. Yeah, but I mean, like George RR Martin, he writes some dense material, but yeah, like, like, all of those things have backstories. And there's like histories of the Targaryens and all this stuff. Like I have one of those other books. It's like the big history book thing. It's really kind of cool.
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Yo, yeah.
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Yeah, I'm really interested to hear some history like,
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yeah, yeah, just it doesn't that he basically he was like, well, this is the current story I want to tell. And how do I get all the back history to this point? 5000 years of back history history. Like if
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I was gonna write a book that takes place in modern day, yeah. And I started with ancient Mesopotamia, right.
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Well, well,
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that's the Tolkien universe.
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Yeah. I'm really interested
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in Martin, because like, it goes, it's similar in that, that it inhabits a world that has thousands of years of history behind it. Right? And like, you're just in this one little part, which is one of the reasons why they're so good. Because they feel like very alive. Yeah, because it's inhabited with things.
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Yeah, it's very full. It's not. It's full because, you know, everything has context and everything has meaning and everything has a backstory, whether it's explained blatantly or not,
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like somebody knows, like the characters know, they didn't have it together.
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But like, yeah, they and it helps the story to knowing that there is such a concrete world to work within. And it helps you relate a lot more to it because you know that Once you become familiar with the way it works, and some expectations that you have, it's not just gonna be completely up ended and be like, oh, and all of a sudden, you know, magic wand, save everything. And, you know, yeah, there's unicorns kind of stuff. It's like, you can be safe and knowing how the assumptions of the world and how they work, which is an interesting juxtaposition to back to F. Scott Fitzgerald for a minute.
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He was writing all of that in the context of just right now. So like, the great, Great Gatsby takes place very specifically in the 1920s. But that book was only written for 1920s readers. Because he was like, oh, let's just get the book out. Whatever. Right? Yeah. So all of that context is just sort of implied that you know, because the reader was supposed to be reading it in the 20s. And then like, forget about it. Probably. He didn't care right away. Yeah, yeah. And so the fact that you're reading it, literally almost 100 years later now, like some of the part of the reason that's not as accessible to everybody is a lot of the context is lost. Because you don't have that world anymore. Like there's the book doesn't have any world building because it assumes that you know all about the world already, because it's the same world that you live in. Yeah, yeah, we don't live in that world anymore. So like, a lot of these really interesting books like, Steinbeck did the same thing. Right? He just like wrote and it was like, very over time. But you know, it's not that time anymore. So it's hard for us to read sound like sound like it is also very dense. Right.
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Well, I well, it it takes you having to sit down with a history book.
Yeah. And go okay. 1920s 1930s What was going on? What was the social construct? A society like what were they dealing with? What were the fears? What were the previous 10 years? Like what would be I hoping future? Okay, now that I have out now.
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My son then, yeah, no.
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sidebar, side side note, speaking of people that write in interesting ways, I read that john Steinbeck used to go down to the table in the kitchen, and he would sharpen 24 pencils, and put them up in a cup. And then he would just grab them and start writing. He would write with a pencil until it was kind of dull, and then he would just get a new one. And he was like that. And then when all the pencils are doll, he would just be like, yep, that's it for today. I'm done. His wife would type it for him because he couldn't type it all. And he had like, apparently atrocious handwriting. So as editors, like, what? No, don't send me this. I have no idea what to say. Yeah.
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And everybody knows his his favorite pencil was.
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Oh, yeah. Well, it was recreated pencils.
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Yes. In the blackwing blackwing in the Mongol
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was one of his favorites. That's true. But what? Yeah, not the not the
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no no long chrome but Mongol in
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more than nomadic people of the East Asian style. But yes, in because he was writing like in that time for that time, you know. And so like all a lot of the his work is just very of that period. So when you revisit it now, it's very difficult for it. Or it just takes a lot more in depth, which is weird because that's why Tolkien and Martin have to work so hard at like creating the history of the world so that it makes sense to you because it's so far outside of like Whatever, right? a fantasy setting the handle really like go nuts on that historical context so that it makes sense to you as a reader. Because you have that otherwise. I just like in, in 60 years when somebody sits down and they read, I know these weird novels on my shelf here about like, I know, like spy novels and things like that make sense? Why did they do that? Why are they so upset about the Middle East? Like, Oh, wait, I get it.
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Yeah,
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yeah, I mean, those, those are very valuable pieces because they are a literal Time Capsule written for a time to a time. Yeah. It's just, it's, it's it's hard then when you start when you read it so far removed, as you mentioned, 100 years on through our context, our so Seidel lenses and our assumptions that we have now. A lot of times you try and put that back on the book, and it doesn't make any sense.
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Yeah, it does it. It's it's different societal times, right? Yeah. We talked about that in history. It's cool, right? Like we can't think about what the you know, we talked about Mesopotamia it's why Brian over there, right? Okay. Can't think about Mesopotamian culture with 2019 brains like it doesn't, doesn't work. Right, right. Like to a Mesopotamian, like, that just written my wife out for a while, but we do. Like to us. That's atrocious, right, that's awful. Mesopotamians like man, just Tuesday, whatever, who cares? That's great. Yeah. Now it's a support but like back then,
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you know, kind of On the flip side, to me, it is kind of fascinating to like, read a book like that and then come back to it later. Like either reading like an history textbook, or like a video, then kind of making that connection of like, Oh, this is why they did it. Like that's really cool. But yeah, at the same time, it's kind of nice to know. No different time periods. Yeah, like, Oh, this makes no sense nowadays, like, Ah,
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well, this is why people like Kipling become problematic. Right? Because
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he was writing
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it the time he was writing it. A lot of his stuff is fine. You know, but now what did he write? Now, when you read the poem, The White Man's Burden?
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Oh,
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yeah, no, I like that. Even Kim like Kim is very good. about like, it's very, like, he really does a pretty good job of highlighting a lot of aspects of like Indian culture, because he grew up in India, right yeah. right you know British made in India, that kind of thing. So it does a pretty good job of highlighting it but you are definitely seeing it through the eyes of a British person. So there's all like everyone's while there's something in writing you like what what?
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Yeah, let me
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back up there like it's still very like looking at it as very forward and like, in like not right even though I think Kim was probably, to me like the best thing because it's it is very inclusive and it does talk about a lot of things and like a lot of the people in that book like, work together effectively even though there's like, Buddhists and sheiks and Islamism and all this stuff, they like, you can see how they coexist together in India at that time, right but it is still through a British man dies. So with three
It is also on just thinking about this, I have some books on my shelf that I found at the flea market. And we're very, we're very familiar with things like Steinbeck. Scott, right? and a bunch of other things. But it's interesting. If you just go on that, it would assume that like four books were written in the 1920s. But like, other stuff, right? Just is not like good. And nobody ever if you ever get a hold of some of that stuff, it's so weird, right? Like I have this this one is a little bit later from the 40s and it's just called fools die on Friday. And its own really weird detective book. Like very like 1940s pulpy detect, you know, like a lot of those like Humphrey Bogart movies got turned into those, you know, but like, it's not really great. It's no Maltese Falcon, I tell you that level of writing if you if you get a hold of some of that stuff, that's because you can get into flea markets for like 25 cents, right? It's just random, all the books that they were written during those times, but then like, they didn't get remembered for some reason. Well now in some cases like it's very interesting because like, just the ones that do because Scott didn't think that his was gonna get like, nobody would care about it and like six months, he was just like, write it, whatever, get out. But some of the other ones so if you if you do that, I highly recommend picking one of those up for a quarter and just like checking it out, because there's just like what a lot of the tropes are still there. Like if you read other books from the time period, a lot of the tropes show up Again, but not like, well, they're just sort of plastic in there somewhere.
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Do you think?
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Do you think that was because they were copying those greater books? Or were those just how people wrote and some people did it better or worse than others?
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I think, I think it's, in certain cases, it's just like that was the popular thing to do at the time. Right. And that was just what people wanted to consume in their media. So they're like, well, what those in here we'll throw in this detective agency. Oh, and there's a lady in there and then they're gonna do a thing and blah, blah, blah, and then whatever, like, you know what I mean? Like, I think a lot of it is just like, the stereotypical tropes of that time that people want to see in the movie. Yeah, it's like now cars exploding in a movie like that didn't used to happen happens all day every five seconds. No, well, we're sitting there.
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No, I mean, it makes sense. I just looking at the just the media landscape. came around us today of how high fantasy is back in vogue with with Game of Thrones and then Lord of the Rings remake. So it's kind of like a granted those are a little different because those are movies of books that were written many, many moons ago. But
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I mean, not every dancer dragon only came out a couple years ago.
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Sure, really, but it's just it's just the all of a sudden that's what's popular now. So you see a lot of other TV was always trying to play off of that.
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Well, the books are always there anyway. Now it's just digital media is a different story because like there was no
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decent fantasy before Lord of the Rings right before Jackson was like nominal like Lord of the Rings. Uh huh. There was like some Conan
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wasn't good. Oh, yeah.
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There was another one that I seem to remember. There was in that vein, like really weird. Like you In the vein of Conan from when I was a kid was bad though, like very bad golf. I was called but I was I remember watching was giggling
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we can well, we can be assured that the the the not Yeah, high fantasy is just it's such a weird genre of
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always. Yeah, film in film, it has not been around very much it like shows up randomly. And it goes away because they make like one movie and nobody sees it. Or like, just not the best. But in books, it's been there for a long time. I used to read it a lot when I was in middle school. I remember like does, like called the whole series and it's like a series of like, it's in a universe like a shared universe, but different authors, right? Oh, that dragon Lance. That's it? Yes.
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Oh, yeah.
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Yeah. I like those. I read a bunch of those. And because it's kind of like a universe and a whole bunch of different authors. contribute to it. So it makes it interesting can read different panels and different things like that. That was a big thing. Not like big, I guess I don't know how big it was. Me and a couple of my friends who had them. Sure. What
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were you thinking of the movie The beastmaster and coenen relationship with those? Well,
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I think we've forgotten about the beastmaster but I don't think it was newer than the cannolis
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Arnold in the 80s right 80s Yeah,
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sorry, the beastmaster also just came to my brain I was like, Oh, wait a minute.
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I had blocked out the beastmaster
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know how you did that but
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I'm gonna do some googling here. Okay, well because
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like I I know for you know, there was kind of the same thing with like the honestly like the Twilight series, but how you know, vampires and things like that became super popular. Then it almost felt like overnight, but the books were I don't know when the books are I came out, but they were always just kind of there. And then all of a sudden, like, pop culture has just exploded with nothing but vampires, vampires or werewolves. And then there was kind of that trend afterwards of like when not like, not like remakes or copycats of like when the First Lord of the Rings like the first trilogy came out your people trying to kind of like emulate that kind of style. Yeah.
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There was a bunch of movies that were not good like, was that in the name of the king with Jason Statham or whatever, like, bad. And Ron Perlman, Delhi the movie. It's terrible. But that was right. You're right. That was at the same time where it was like some like, oh, we'll just do this because people will want to see this. Yeah. No, no, just kidding. And I'm
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just sad that that more dark crystal spin offs didn't happen or catch on because that would have been amazing to see.
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Did you not watch the new series?
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No, I I tend to not watch most spin offs or, you know, things that are based off of the original movie.
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Well, I often find myself getting disappointed rightly or wrongly. Also, like dragon heart. Sorry, yes, that was one. Yeah, so it up. Oh, it was definitely Okay. Here it is. I found it. Ready for this. I see if you remember this. I'm word terrible piece of cinematography. Oh,
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call the Conqueror
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starring Kevin sorbo aka Hercules.
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Hercules.
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Thanks.
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That's exactly what I needed.
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I just googled fantasy movies 1990 and I have this bone age Aster you know all the Highlander movies all of them all of them
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there we go sorry yes Cole the copper
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movie is that movie is not good just in case you were curious
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I don't I don't remember that so
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movie was awesome that I just bought on this list to not exactly his fantasies the other ones but the 13th warrior. Oh, okay.
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That is as well as Antonio Banderas Of course it's good.
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I actually really liked that movie. It's one of those movies like it's not a again, it's not a good movie. But I like it. You're right. It's a great movie. It's it's definitely back white, but it's definitely there. But I always liked it. It's one of those weird movies he just like Yeah. You really care? You just like it apologetically like 13th warrior. That's why I'm standing by that one. Okay.
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put that out there too.
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It's one of those movies that if it appears on my TV to be like, I guess I can watch this. This
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is more on this list. apologetically do not like Neverending Story.
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Go, oh no, that's gonna cause some hate mail. That's fine. controversial decision.
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I do not like never the story
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in such a long time. Like I can't
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recollect
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I like at all. It's such a mind
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trip. I and I remember trying to make sense of that movie growing up and just not being able to go. It's just a whole bunch of weirdness in my brain. Like there's just all this like really bizarre junk that doesn't make any sense. Like there's falcor like the flying dog thing. And he's like, All weird and fly II. And then that was like, Oh, I can't I can't keep the movie straight in my head either. Right? Because that doesn't help me there because like there's at least three right? Yeah, I definitely don't remember three at all i don't think and then I get wanting to like combine them ahead.
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Well it was hard it was hard to is that it's kind of like you just move from stage you know stage setup to stage setup where they just had the scenery and they went will tell a story here and then we'll still tell a story here. And the connections between them aren't really that strong in my mind. So it's just kind of like yeah, you had that pieces and you just kind of use them and a horse dies in a swamp. Can we just Can we just all
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the other
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eight tracks dies on a horse a tracks dies in a swamp and our tests are organics is an artifact? Yeah.
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What was the name? or whatever? his name? His name was a true, right? Because he said artex like wait, that sounds like the kid's name. Yeah are definitely the rock biter thing, and they definitely sing a bad song. may or may not be on a motorcycle at one point. I'm not really sure on that. I can't quite recall
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the rock right in your cycle, are you?
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I'm not sure again, that might be like three. That sounds like a neverending story by three thing. I don't know. But yeah, I never liked this movie. I was like I was I watched them when I was like younger and they're like, my son my friends like really liked it and we had to watch at their house times be like, Yeah, no. I understand what's happening. I don't like this. I don't know why I don't like it. I don't like it.
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But my my taste in 90 movies isn't exactly the greatest because I thought like the movies like The warriors. virtue was like the best movie in the world.
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So
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I can't I can't really say much about like all 90s films were awesome. Because at one point in time, I was like kung fu kangaroos.
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This is like ever talking about hiding the Ninja Turtle style like hardcore.
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Yeah. I
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think the book to write I
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think so. No idea. Yes they
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had these
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What? I had the I had the word so first two books
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did I did I had at least two of them.
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One of them had a black, a blue cover and a green cover and a red cover and all the different colors of the different powers. I feel like I feel
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like it's
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very loosely based off the book of five rings by Miyamoto Musashi, right the Japanese fencer, huh. So
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swordsmen brief, brief and some Misaki great day. Bye La. Yeah, that. I'm sure that was a game. That's true. Great. So I think I feel like it was definitely based on that, to some extent, like, yeah, very loosely, philosophically, because there are like the five elements, elements in the five finger booze with Yeah, yeah. I think that might be where it stops. But
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I think that's most assuredly where it's
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a very, very definitely crazy base. But yeah. But again, that's definitely a movie that you watch as a kid and go, Oh, that's cool. And then you watch it again later. And you
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know, so,
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so what about those movies? Don't let them age? Well.
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Part of its the acting.
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Well, okay, I mean, I'm gonna say a large part of its the actors besides the acting and the CGI or lack thereof, like why does something like the dark crystal Stick with us and it becomes a cult favorite and like I think all three of us would be in agree in it. That's a very good movie, even though it's from the 80s want versus something like the war is a virtue?
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Is it you know, is it to me
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number one what go ahead you go and then I have a blessing.
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Well, no, I mean,
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I was gonna be number one, the lack of Jim Henson. I think he's gonna
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be number one.
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Because man's genius and so like, Oh my gosh,
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I I honestly, I dark crystal. I honestly rewatch that probably twice a year and I just can't get over the the puppeteering that was done for that movie, and good, and just how they melded it's a live action, but it's all there's no people in it, right. Don't people are Behind big costume No, no, there's, you know where they're operating those big monster big animals
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or whatever. Yeah, yeah, they're ones whose name I can't remember. Because I can get a bit sketchy.
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But they're not you know they're not wearing just costumes it's an actual Yeah, it's a it's a puppet that they're wearing kind of thing I
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heard that movie was also originally supposed to not have dialogue. Really? It was I don't know if this is true, I heard it somewhere so we had to fact check this, but I heard that it was just supposed to be the puppets and it was supposed to be dialogue but like not English dialogue.
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Oh no, you're right that there was just supposed to be like,
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the made up language of the land and that with no subtitles.
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Yeah, I have heard that and somebody was like tripping yo
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that's not going to work out. We're having like a we do had to redo a bunch. actually put the dialogue in there. But the original vision was to not have English dialogue at all, or any recognizable dialogue just a made up language of the universe. And that was it.
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Right? It was the, the the spec skis and the mystics with
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Wow, I can't believe I didn't remember that one. That's the easy one. Yeah. I think it's just because it's so fun to say sexy that I didn't even
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remember.
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Was it agarra the crazy old lady?
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Yes. You were saying? Which, which I would love to, you know, being
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just agarra and what her story is, and what what are you doing on this weird viewing thing?
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All the time and the thing
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Yeah, in the TV show the Netflix special.
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cheryan but that's not quite the right word. I think no.
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But but the the Netflix series goes into that. And, like it explains, like, who this person is, what she's doing and how she's connected. Because Yeah, I remember watching and the original movie, I was like, Wait, who is this crazy person? What is she doing and why? But
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for all of five minutes, and then it gets burned down by The Beatles.
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Yeah, it goes into that in the, in the TV series that it actually explains and it's kind of weird that they have to do it in that way that you know, has to explain like who this person is, but it's kind of neat the way they do it. And how is like actually connected?
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Yeah, I can see that. So here's the thing, sometimes, I don't want an explanation. I feel like I feel like this is something that like, movie studios don't really get like, I don't want you to tell me every single detail that happen, right, right. Yeah. So like, sometimes it's okay to come into a story. Just like boom, here it is, this is happening. And then I go along for the ride. And then when that little arc ends is done well, just yeah, even even in like a weird universe, like the dark crystal. That's okay sometimes like sometimes it is super nice when Tolkien just writes down the entire history of the universe for me. So it's there if I want it, but I don't need it necessarily. Because I can, I can or you can read The Hobbit
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by itself and fully enjoy it and
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get everything you
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know and out. If you went all nuts and he's got like all this other stuff. That's there for you to consume later if you would like to, but you don't have Have to you can enjoy it on its own. Sometimes you don't need all that stuff now sometimes is nice, right? It's a weird balance because sometimes I'm like, Oh yeah, that's really cool. And other times I'm like, Yeah, I don't care. So I don't really know what it is in my brain that makes that decision all the time. But like, sometimes I definitely just want to jump into a story. Like right in the middle of something happening. I don't need like tons of exposition. Like don't don't expose me to death, please.
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Just don't you don't need that as you know, Bob. Yeah.
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Yeah, I mean, when it's done badly, I can't. I can't I can't deal with a terrible exposition. Like so. This is the thing that movies do. And some books do but just like like, oh god, why? Why do you Why are you looking at me? Like stop it? Like what?
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TV shows do it are really
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bad for it because you know they have such limited time to get something across. So they did they do try and explain it but unfortunately movies started to do that where there can't be anything left unturned and everything must have an explanation to try and make the world the universe that exists in make sense. But even think back to the original Star Wars, where how much of that was
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actually like A New Hope. I don't but Tina scene alone.
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Why are you there?
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What are you? I don't know. I'm gonna listen to this music. Capital. He knows. Because if you just consume A New Hope, yeah, you're like, this is an entire universe that is full of things. Like it feels that way. But the rest of it is just like a mystery. Okay. Yeah. And that's why it was so cool. Whenever they were just like letting people write stories, right before Disney got ahold of it was like, No, you can't do that because I don't know. But like, just like people were just like people did that. They were like, what's that thing in there? I'm gonna read a book about it. And like somebody made up the backstory of like, random person number four in the game. They did, like a huge book collection of all that stuff. It's crazy. But like, that was fun because people got to make it up themselves. Right? And you got to do that. But the movie was just like, boom, here it is.
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It presented you as full, complete whole, and we're moving on.
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Yeah. And sometimes I like that because it's like, well, because your imagination can just explode into all kinds of stuff. And just like makeup, everything. It's so cool. But like, Yeah, when they sit down and expose it to me every single thing where when JK Rowling goes back, like all these years later, it's like, oh, well, actually, No, I meant to this like, yeah, it's fine.
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I liked the book. I already liked it.
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You don't have to explain it to me. You have to hand hold, hold my hand and walk me through everything that you meant. At some point, it doesn't matter what you meant, because what I read is the most important, right? Yeah, like at some, at some point, I think john green said that it's like at some point, authors purpose doesn't matter anymore. Because what the reader takes away from it.
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Yeah. And that what's funny about well, what's funny is that that that's kind of the whole the big issue with the Star Wars of how they kept. He kept going back and editing and changing it and trying to try to massage it. And it's like, No, no, authorial intent is now beyond you. It has now made its way into the culture and it as much as it belongs to you and you originated it is now part of the society.
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out there. Yeah. Once it's out there, it's not yours. Yeah, it's Jared now. And so yeah, that's another really good example of like going back and remaking and redoubling all that stuff like no, no, I just want I just want the original one. As it was, so Good, like, yeah, was it like was it perfect? No, no care, right? It doesn't have to be perfect, right? Not everybody is standing kubek and gonna stand over you like a whip. And just like shout at you to do it again right? Now we don't need
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that. Well, and especially now
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that we have Stanley Kubrick for those movies, yeah, we need somebody for something else. Right?
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Well, and especially the stuff that was being quote unquote, fixed where it was, visually, oh, we'll make this look smoother will add the CG characters will try and do this will edit this way. It's like,
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I understand this movie was released in 1977.
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Yeah,
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yeah. And I can see how there would be that urge to go especially if you're a film creator for for that weird span of for that transition of from when everything was done, you know, in in real life with you know, with sets and models and then transition into CGI to start looking back at your previous stuff like I can see how Would it be tempting to go back and go? No, let's mess with this. Let's fuss with this. Let's massage this way. But yeah,
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it does it, facilitate storytelling. Because at the end the day, even though it's visual, it is still a storytelling medium. So, if it doesn't really facilitate the telling of the story, it's not important. It's not helping me, the audience member at all, especially when you're going back and like redoing it. That's when it's like, even worse, but I mean, think about it when you make it in the first place. Like, famously, jaws is really good. on accident.
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Right? Yeah, yeah.
53:45
The reason of that movie, talking about copied into oblivion, I don't show the monster till the end, right. That's just because it was broken. And that didn't work and they couldn't fix it. Shoot the movie anyway. And she shot all this stuff without it because it was broken. And then you just had this menacing off screen presence that showed up later. And this is mimicked all over the over the place like famously like Jurassic Park, right? Like, yeah, where's the where's the T Rex? Please? No, but no, no, no, they didn't wait why Islam couldn't quite couldn't quite hold on to it long enough
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but like, right? Yeah,
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well, there's another good example Steven Spielberg in how he hasn't gone back to his original films and it felt for them and mess with them to try and you know, they, he could have very easily 10 years ago decided, you know what, we need a CGI shark swimming and, you know, 20 minutes into the film just so we can visually see it. The way it's, you know, that could have been done, but he didn't.
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Yeah, thank you. That don't get any don't get me. I do. But like yeah, I need to redo this part of et. like okay, well now an
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ET I think he did i do think they did mess with that was that the one where they were originally carrying guns and then they edited them to be walkie talkies or something so completely innocent in this. Well again it's
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more controversy I don't really love either so I always want to be very boring.
55:31
It is very boring you're not alone in that.
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I don't love that
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movie too and it's fine. It's good. But like,
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but, but
55:41
you know, come on. It's boring.
Just don't don't do Jurassic Park. It's fine. Okay, okay. Yeah, the first one is good. I know.
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Oh my gosh.
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Are they not
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Think of something with Jurassic Park that I had heard.
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Yes. To does still exist. So okay, good. Good is what they are. No, I was gonna say
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they're bringing back some of the original cast from the first Jurassic Park for the latest movie that they're making.
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When they're gonna Yeah, Doctor, right? Yes. And
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who else? I think it was it was two or three of them they're bringing back to be in that which I don't know I think that's a little just move on. It's such a perfect more drastic world it's just a whole nother thing but whatever that's true.
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I didn't I haven't most recent one. I haven't seen that I missing much. First the first the world right? Yes, that was the first one they read it they're not read it but like the number four right and officially number four right dress world. I like that one. I like that one. Because it's like, unapologetically dinosaurs Ed people movie. And it's like doesn't take itself very seriously. And it's just like oh check out this cool stuff. Oh, hey, we're gonna do these weird things like okay that's cool in the movies like weird and stuff. The End makes up for everything. I don't care. The end of that movie was like I was cool. I was forgive I forgive any anything that but the end was awesome
57:37
yeah, I have
57:38
exactly the dinosaurs biting things that you'd want to watch.
57:41
Like, okay, that's kind of just gives into what they're as the movies are kind of holding back on of Yeah, we're not going to have this we're going to have one one eat one guy eating out of a toilet and another guy attacked by the side of the road. I like that one.
57:53
I know the first one is
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good. Like, I like the like word like three. It does all that we're talking like When I was asked
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that I was gonna say, I'm really looking forward to back to our Lord of the Rings discussion what, you know, Amazon bought the rights to the Lord of the Rings material. Oh yeah, they're they're going to be making a TV series about that. But the exciting but the exciting part is, is that the Tolkien family has input on what they can and can't produce. And apparently the rights that they bought were strictly to the writings and not to be expanded or added to something like that. So
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focusing on that show, do you know that we know
58:44
it was it's a it's pretty cool. It's pretty cool stuff to the Middle Earth. So it's it's the history before we get to Middle Earth, I think
58:54
oh, like way old like Second Age stuff like the old Oh, dear. Yeah, I think
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I mean,
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cuz I didn't know that ever. I haven't read too much about it because I had I always just heard that it was in development, but I didn't know exactly what material they were focusing on.
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Yeah,
59:18
isn't isn't that the one where it talks about like the two elves? And there's like a complete love story is that I remember there was a book that he wrote, and I think that was true.
59:36
Their adventures? I don't know if that was what it was going to be about or?
59:42
Yeah, yeah, I know. I think they are talking about, about the build up to Middle Earth. And, and so I mean, there's a lot.
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I mean, yeah. Again, just like a little bit of lore, laying around.
1:00:00
Literally everything. There's
1:00:02
there's YouTube videos that I watched the talks about, like, the creation of like the world not like through his stuff, but like that historically happened. And each video is like 30 minutes long and the toxin and has like all the characters that it talks about and I'm just like I'm My head hurts and this is not even for a class like I just wanted to, to learn what's going on and it's all about like the
1:00:26
like where the wizards come from
1:00:27
and like I like all those Gods there they're like, Yeah, I
1:00:31
don't think that's Yeah, I don't think it goes back that far, I think. Yeah, I think they're just going to focus on the second age. And, and that's kind of where the new minore is being founded and expanding and sour on is is around and coming back and forth. And the this is the right in the middle of this is where the Ring of Power is created. And and it's just starts to work its way through and some of those deceptions and lies for through all the the races start to happen so
1:01:08
there's yeah there's gonna be a lot of a lot of stuff they can bring in here
1:01:15
sweet I'm very excited about that in India they said it's it's all
1:01:21
with some oversight by the token family so
1:01:24
that's good. That's good Yeah.
1:01:36
You want to go back to New Zealand mostly know
1:01:41
me, let me know when we're going back
1:01:46
pain let me such a long flight oh my god plane flights real quick
1:01:54
in New Zealand
1:02:00
Give them both like sad is it when I was there? I was like, a mile and a half away from fat. Oh, it was just like there. No. Okay, well, I drove in town it was in like nighttime, like, no. I think this This means we need to have a on on location Live podcast the podcast. Oh dear.
1:02:32
No. And
1:02:36
do you have school tomorrow? Yes, I do. lovely lovely weather for school. k nice nice and frozen. Oh my gosh. You guys because supposed to get a lot of snow. I don't really know. Rain. I've heard a lot about rain came and it's still gonna be the 30s tomorrow. So that's fine. Yeah, yeah, it's it's almost 70 up here today. Yeah, day 70 here, and tomorrow is gonna be like 35 rainy. Yeah, and I definitely have an assembly tomorrow that I have to go outside to get to the building at the assemblies in. Oh, no, not very excited about this.
1:03:18
Yeah. Tomorrow. Yeah. Simply done.
1:03:23
No, I'm just looking at this right now tomorrow is north winds at 21 miles an hour 31 degrees and then tomorrow night's low is 12. Really?
1:03:36
Here I was, I was gonna say I just got a notification that there's a wind advisory in Oklahoma.
1:03:42
shock. Yeah.
1:03:44
Yeah, this weekend was, you know, it was super nice. And I don't have work tomorrow cuz now.
1:03:53
state employee so I don't have work.
1:03:56
So Aaron's gonna stay up and play video games, but I will Say that Aaron went on an epic adventure this weekend.
1:04:05
into which
1:04:08
there is something called a paranormal
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Cirque.
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That
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travels I'll get there that travels around the country. And there's one in bartlesville this weekend. So imagine a circus Olay but like ghosts Halloween and like haunted house theme
1:04:31
that's interesting. And so I'm not gonna lie. Interesting is not the word that I would use. Exciting. Awesome is the correct word. So it's no really no. does not sound appealing at all to
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climb rope.
1:04:51
It's not It's not like anything like that. But it's it's a very it's the show was actually R rated. And you say circus, Olay. I'm thinking and flying around on a real Been right
1:05:03
there was an R rated without let me get their, their their skin so
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it's it's a very
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adult humor oriented or less show is
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story Oh
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my muting my muted my microphone you made
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errands done so I was gonna I was gonna tell you about my epic date that I went on but nope years ago What?
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What? Okay, okay
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I'm sorry I'll take that Oh, well she
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goes she goes oh down Okay, no
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Was it your or her idea to go to this extravaganza? Now I told you I'm done.
1:05:54
It was actually my idea but I'm done
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How did it go
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Gonna make fun of me now.
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I'm gonna try to hold my tongue. So I'm gonna be I'm gonna mute myself. Tell me about it. Alright, so it is a though there's it's a it's like a haunted house, but it's a live performance kinda like a circus circus, or deal. It's, it's all rated. There is. It's like adult humor. It's not a burlesque show, though. But it's very in it and it has the acrobatics have like a circus. Olay like there is a gentleman flying on the big ribbon thing is there are acrobats and there's magic and stuff like that. But it just is it just a horror themed show. And like there wasn't anything gruesome or gross, but it was just like now it gets pretty much for adults. Only Hi, there's like no children. Yeah, if there are children, you know, they have to make sure they have these wristbands on because people got pulled on stage for things. And so it was it was interesting. It was quite quite interesting. Sounds nuts, did you get pulled on stage? No, I made sure because there was a little hiding in the back, like, no, there's the little ticket thing that you go to the website. And it's like, there's a warning on the little tickets late that's like these seats will be pulled for people to participate. Okay, so they're like the front row seats and there's like a few on the side. Yeah, but the aisles where they can get you out.
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Yeah, so I I made sure to set like in the middle section like middle middle, middle back, right. So safe.
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Yeah, but
1:07:52
they what they will do is that they had like these it was actually it was kind of weird because it was in this massive tent, like in the parking live in bartlesville. But like it, it was like, it wasn't concrete or the, you know, the parking lot. They actually had like, floors that they installed and all these things. And I was like floor kind of Yeah, it was just like in the head these bleachers play it was kind of freaked me out is that they would like walk underneath the bleachers and reach out and grab your feet. Yeah, no, that's man. So that was kind of terrifying. The poor lady next to me got like, grabbed like three times and I think she had a heart attack. But it was it's very interesting. It was it was unique. It was something that I was not expecting in bartlesville Oklahoma.
1:08:46
The only thing that I could really envision right now is like a weird cross between circus Olay and something wicked this way comes.
1:08:53
So I would say you're pretty much accurate,
1:08:56
right? That's what I that's what I have in my hand right now. Mr. Joe Carnival, but with slightly more high flying. Yes, I like that level of like really bizarre like sideshow II, but like
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weird sideshow II, like, it was kind of more contained in that aspect, but it's thinking about and visualizing what you're imagining. It's pretty much exactly what was kind of when I was there. Yeah. And it was it was just like, my, it was actually my supervisor. That was like, hey, there's this thing going on. And I was like, tell me more. And then he sent me a link. I sat there for a good like 30 minutes. Just like googling and doing research on whatever. Whatever this was, I was like, I'm gonna get tickets.
1:09:52
Yeah. One more small joke is that whenever you kept saying there was a man flying around, I just also envisioned him flying around on a broomstick. like water, like flying around? No wasn't the name is 2000 Come on. No, they had none of know that cool things. But
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they had like this
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presenter and he was like a warlock and there's magic involved. And it was just it was again, it was just very interesting for bartlesville Oklahoma. But they travel they travel around the country. And I was like you guys picked
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bartlesville Really? All right. I mean, but it's weird. Yeah, yeah,
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I'm having a really hard time reconciling what this visually looks like in my head. Right? I also getting images of like Bloodborne which is mildly disturbing, and only that doesn't need to be in there. But
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it's not that dark and depressing but it is called paranormal circus. cir, qu e paranormal.
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Cirque, is it like, Is it is it? Is it based on Something Wicked this becomes really sounds like a movie.
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It really sounds like they must have missed a huge opportunity to be at that Carnival that comes through. Yeah,
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let me go
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friggin Google page. Yeah, I can't.
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I can't be bothered to Google right now. I'm sorry. My fingers
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very cold up here the North
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like 50 degrees here. So
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it's it's very cool.
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That's a weird 10 I must say Google has showed me a very, very distinguished, like, unique tent structure. Me. Yeah. So it was fun. Both you had fun.
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Oh, yeah, it was. It wasn't. Again, it was something that was like that's what we're doing on a Saturday night. Like Yeah, yes. And it was it was very, very interesting. But the little kid came out of me. The, you know, people like flying around or doing like these crazy magic things because it was like Brett Brandon said earlier, like, there was a quote unquote story, but they didn't have to explain anything. I could just literally turn my brain off and enjoy something as number one as unique and crazy as it was. Uh huh. And just, you know, it's like, do you remember when we went to go see David Copperfield?
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Yes,
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yeah. So it was kind of it wasn't as cool as David Copperfield. But it was just kind of like, wow, this is appealing to my inner child in my imagination. And oh, there's a little person on a
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pedal bike with a chainsaw like that's out of the ordinary.
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I mean, David Copperfield, I do seem to remember there was ghosts flying around event rooms. Remember that, but there was no there was no ghosts. That Few flew around the arena. That was the the tent, but it was just it was fascinating.
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And yet awesome, but I'll try to tie tie that in with the mystery, but I just got tired halfway through and I'm like, you know, don't forget.
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Okay, as long as you did not ride the carousel. Now, you're not supposed to do that. Yeah, yeah. Don't don't ride the carousel. Okay. That's as long as you didn't do that. That's good. Then a lightning rod salesman.
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No. Okay, but I think
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you might want
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a copy of that movie off to him next time and just watch it.
1:13:56
Hey, guys. Hey, you guys. You need this. You need this. Do more do some of this is like a really vague. Was there like a person? What wasn't it? Wasn't there a breakout frozen person in that movie? In the book too? I was in, right? Yeah.
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Yes. Yes. was terrible was that what was the deal?
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I don't know. But like they were they were like lusting after her because she was like a beautiful person, like a beautiful lady. But she was like, Snow White ified right. Like she couldn't remember exactly. As it hasn't seen to do with the themes of like longing for youth, right? Like the old men were like lusting after because she was young and beautiful. And they wanted to be young. So they could be by her right.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Anyway, yes.
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Oh, well, we
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need to hear more about this. State later, you can tell us more about can be a follow up. If you have a you have a five page report on paranormal Cirque du by Friday, and then
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once we have discussion, I'll might and let you know about the state.
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I'll just watch. I'll just want to tell you something we can is it comes. Also, I seem to recall the opening of that opening song of that, like the opening theme of the movie. Now when the train is coming and stuff, if you just if you just watch that, close your eyes and you go down first name What is definitely like a rip off a lot of the Star Wars theme in that thing? Yeah, definitely some like Imperial March in there. And you're like, Wait, what?
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Did that movie come out?
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I don't know. I remember I watched it in high school because we had that was our sophomore reading book was something we could easily come
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It was originally published in 1962. Yeah cuz Bradbury was doing things then but like yeah
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he's definitely an 8883 Yeah.
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Ah did not realize it was a book but all right. Yeah. Ray Bradbury
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we, we didn't really get to read a lot of cool books like that in my school weirdly enough. We read the weird ones like when people now they're like a lot of people now like bit or at least at our school they read like Huck Finn.
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Great Gatsby is one on the software reading list. We definitely read something wicked this way comes.
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Lord of the Flies, Lord of the Flies.
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Like I don't have to read that book.
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That's a great one to read.
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That book is Yeah, that book is
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messed up. No, I yeah, I Yeah, that one was I read remember reading that in grade school and then rereading it later. And it was just like it had been completely shut out of my brain. Well, not great school, but like, but like middle sorry, like middle school and how was our freshman book freshman year? Yeah, sorry. I for some reason I grade school just because I whenever
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the kids are great school age and yes. Yeah,
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yeah. So anyway, but yeah, I remember reading that in, in in high school and and then rereading it several years later and just being like, why did they let us read this?
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Not an okay book like more fun with x. The author of that book was a former teacher.
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Well, that makes a lot of sense about how he
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could tell that he really loved children. He really great. Yeah. Let's just great. He had a great experience teaching in prep school, I guess.
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Oh, poor piggy. Oh no. Why did you have to go there?
1:18:01
Oh,
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I didn't have to read that book. But I read I read a lot of it was because of Mrs. Shriver. We read a lot of Shakespeare.
1:18:20
Well, yeah, everybody shakes and then yeah, great. Yeah. I feel like we're the best. Or the red Fern Grows. Pamela we read some Hamlet. I didn't have to read Hamlet, Grapes of Wrath read that one.
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And then we watched the movie on it. And I was like, well, this is sad.
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Not happy fun times. Still.
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Yeah, because we
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the list will come to me.
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It'll come to me like four o'clock in the morning. Like, oh, we read this book, this book in this book.
1:19:00
I didn't have to, I didn't have to read like Lord of the Flies.
1:19:03
Definitely available to you that I didn't have to read that.
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I read some of these books like when I was in college, but the funny part was, you know, being for history classes, you have to have like all these history books, and then you read on the list to talk about them. I didn't really read that much in college, like pretty much like Google search to watch a YouTube video of them. Pretty much gave me the answers enough enough to have a discussion. And plus some of these books that I had to buy were like 50 bucks. not spending that much for one semester. Come on now.
1:19:38
So errands errands top tip for making it through college. Don't read Google. Yeah, don't don't.
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Don't buy the $80 book that you're only going to use once.
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It's fine.
1:19:52
No, then you get like four by
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you. I'm like no, it's fine.
1:19:57
No, no, but no, Brandon, you heard it. You heard it. This week's top tip for your capacity college just google it well,
1:20:05
so I actually kept a lot of my, my, the books that I actually did
1:20:10
read in college, but a lot of like, the other ones. And I was like, man, I don't want to, like a master Margarita. I bought that book. I have
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that book. But then in the same class I was supposed to read like a another Russian novel.
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But those you bookstore was like,
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we're selling this book for $90. And then Amazon's like,
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20 bucks like collec. Yeah, Dostoevsky. Was it Brothers Karamazov? Was it that one?
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No, I can't remember which one it was Anna current and now
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I'm running out of Russian novels.
1:20:51
Cool. We all may know Tolstoy, Dostoevsky.
1:20:56
Well, you know they didn't really allow a lot of And one
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day in the life of Ivan Denisovich. No that one.
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Nobody had no. No uplifting story. Yeah.
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Your life.
1:21:12
Guys, you got to think of this food is the best food.
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We can.
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Oh man.
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Yeah. That's reading the book to understand the social climate and right that's the exact opposite of what we're talking about earlier with fkp jail, right? Yeah, it's one that keeps it in a time capsule. So you just go back and read it and you go, Oh,
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no.
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Terrible.
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Yeah. So there you go.
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That disappointment.
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That happy note
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Oh,
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Here we go. You got something to look forward to maybe in the new Lord of the Rings universe on Amazon.
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Yeah.
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That's good to have that it's nice. Maybe the blue wizards will make an appearance. So I've been nice. Finally. Oh, yeah, you get to see what they've been up to. Because they apparently are too busy to bother with when the world was in danger.
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Yeah, well, or we'll just learn to hate them more. If they're like, well, if it gets really bad, we'll just leave. That's true.
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So you get to figure out why they decided to go away when the world was in the most peril. And leave us with you know, I remember, it turns out that
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they were mentioned in one of the videos I watched, but it was just like, oh, by the way, here's this.
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Yeah, it's like,
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excuse me. Those videos are like, yeah, there's five wizards. You Wait, what? 123? Where's Where's the rest? Were the other two together to blue wizards. And also I want to know why there is a white, a brown, a gray and two blue wizards. What? Well
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I actually think that in like, one of the books, it just it literally says like, and the blue wizards went into like the eastern lands chapter four and just like
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the one big token thing like Wait, wait a minute. Wait. Hold on. I'll get to it later. I got I gotta talk about I gotta find out the history of the dwarvish language. few more things. Yeah, a lot. I'll get back to that. I'll put that on the back burner for now. Yeah, yeah. Well, that's something we can hope for. You know, who are the blue was?
1:23:56
next podcast can be all about theories. Yeah, we'll go and do it. unresearched and welcome back with our own theories
1:24:06
buzard recap or something
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taking my notes
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