dry creek bed mini golf

Collin was in a combine. Brandon has changed a headlight. We have opinions about mini golf courses.

  • LONG WEEK

  • What makes a good mini golf course?

    • Bridge

    • Undulation

    • Shortcut holes

    • Hitting through/around animals - elephants, 

    • Windmill or other things moving

    • Conveyor belts

    • Ricochet!!

    • Multilevel

  • Brandon went to a mini golf course…with NONE of these

  • there was NO WHIMSY

  • dry creek bed mini golf

  • Combine!!

  • Heater control arms

  • Changing headlights

  • Collin’s new door

  • Literally nothing

  • Haiku:

    • The fallen lay strewn

    • Sentinels silently stand

    • Mourning, loss of kin

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SUMMARY KEYWORDS

dry creek bed, mini golf, field trip, student behavior, course design, interesting features, precision putt, shortcut holes, theming, visual interest, course challenges, car repairs, door replacement, social battery, redemption haiku, five-year anniversary

Collin  00:04

Music. Welcome to Oh brother, a podcast where we try to figure it all out with your hosts, Brandon and Collin on this week's show, dry creek bed, mini golf, ahoy. Oh

00:22

Oh, how's your week? It was very long. Oh, no,

Collin  00:27

right? Well, this week, it's

00:29

like the

Collin  00:30

end of the first quarter, right? And so we traditionally do like a field trip type event for, like, celebrating the positive behaviors of students and whatnot. Oh, right, right, yeah. But somebody decided this, we should do that trip on Wednesday, and so it really kind of messed up the whole flow of the week. And it really like it made Thursday and Friday kind of terrible. Even the kids were like, unprompted. I want you to this was unprompted, right? It's not it did not feed them this information. I did not prime them in any way. Some of the kids were like, Yeah, we should probably I don't Friday because I'm tired today. I was like, same, oh no, mid Thursday or Friday. Kind of rough, right? Like, I just threw off the whole, the whole momentum of everything. So yeah, that's all right, but, but that does bring me to a topic I want to discuss with you. Uh huh, right, right, go. So we, we took the children, and there's apparently, like we took them at mini golfing. Mini golfing. Yes, there's apparently a new ish mini golf location nearby. Never been. Didn't know really where it was. We went down there, and I saw some pictures of it, and we got there, and I went, Oh, okay. So I want to talk about, what do you need to have a good mini golf course, right? Because I would say this mini golf course is like, there. It's like, fine. But when I think about mini goal, this is not what I picture my mind, right? It's very bland, it's very haphazard, it's very and so I want to ask your opinion on things that make a good mini golf course, right? What do you need to be successful for any other aspiring mentor golf course owners out there, right? What would the what would the official, what would the official, oh brother. Mini Golf Course look like, Okay, well, I do have to say, saying that I'm saying it's fine, so ranking top five mini golf features I'm trying to see. So yeah, I mean that we could put this into a list if we need that's patented, right? But, yes, this is actually very interesting, because I had not played the last so we had just played mini golf, but it was in, like, oh, mini golf thing in the mall. I don't know if the battlefield mall there in Springfield of there's a mall now, yes, but it's a, what do you remember the indoor mini golf in Branson that we used to go to sometimes? Oh yes, it was like, that was like, in the Okay, that one was, that one's like, cool because it's like, dark and stuff, but like, course wise, it's not very exciting, yeah, this one's very boring. Course wise, they did try to do, like, the black light and neon stuff in this one as well, but it's also in the mall, so it's still kind of like, well lit, yeah? So that perspective very, very boring. I mean, one of my things that I love. And prior to that, I had been like three years since we had played mini golf, and I haven't played mini golf in ages. We had right, okay, before we continue, I must. If I don't make this known, I will be mocked mercilessly by my wife. So I just need to make I don't think I haven't played many. Go for probably 10 years, right? And the last time I did play, Susan beat me real bad. So I just need to make sure everyone knows. I would just acknowledge this fact okay, that that this is okay. This is not coming from mini golf experts. I think it's important to know that, yeah, a lot, yeah, like, I used to mini golf a lot, right? Uh, frequently, my friends and I would, because it used to be like a very relatively inexpensive thing to do in certain places. So when I was younger, like in high school and, like, even in college, a little bit, my friends and I would go mini golfing all the time, right? I would take my own putter mini golfing. All right? I need to nice, yeah, as you do one of those guys, I see, I just thought it was, well, you know, listen, if you're gonna go, you might as well use a putter that, you know, and it's funnier when you rock up with your own putter to mini golf, right? It's, makes sense. Well, I've never been one of those people, so I can't tell you at all. I've never been one of those, bring your own to to this. Try it. Yeah, it's pretty fun. I will say that my prior to this, we had played an outdoor mini golf in like Northern Arkansas, where we went with some friends for a weekend. It was kind of it was interesting. But as far as the and I would just play here, and there is never a big thing, very sparse. But I will say that one of my favorite aspects of mini golf, I'd love it whenever you have to putt, like, over a little, tiny bridge to get across all like the precision putt, yes? Like the precision, precision bridge, yeah? Bridge. I like, is that what we're talking about here? Like, I love, yeah? Because mini golf is all about, like, interesting features, right? Yeah? Like, there's always like, I like, for example, I like, like, the thing, like, fun acre used to have the thing where you had to putt on the strip between the water troughs, right? So it's kind of like the Mini Bridge thing, but, like, it's there, there's like little random water troughs in the thing. I think that's fun. You know? It's just like, unique thing, yes? So, yeah, yeah. Like, then what about you? What's what you like? So again, I think, uh, so outside of water feature, I think you definitely have to have, like, interesting undulation, right? You have to have, you have to have hills, right? It has to be, like, hilly and like wacky hills, not like super, like out of control, like soft hedgehog or anything, right? But like, just like, there needs to be a variety in the undulation, like the some, some needs to have, like, gentle slopes, and other ones need to have, like much more, like larger slopes. And then even the one where there's like the three hump thing, you know, and sometimes there's like a hole in the middle of one of those that takes the shortcut somewhere, right? Those are like, interesting thing. So I like undulation in my mini golf, right? I like to have, you know, because you have to, like, judge how hard you're going to hit it up this little slope. Or, like, I gotta go up this hill, but it's gonna go down the other side, like, that kind of thing. Or like, Oh, I hate the ones, okay, hates a strong word. We don't hate anything, but I don't like where you have to hit up the hill. It dips down to where the hole actually is, and the dips back, and it goes up and then over and then down, kind of, Oh, yeah. Those are terrible, no. But I like the double hump. So I like the double hump thing specific only if there's a shortcut hole. Oh, not the final hole, because that's lame, right? You hit it because then it's hard to hit it in the middle, and this just gets it's too obnoxious, but I do so like, sometimes they do the thing where there's two humps, and if you hit it over the second hump, it just goes, like, around a bigger corner to where the hole is. But if you can get it in between the humps, there's like, the hole that then, like, shoot it out towards the bottom platforms, like the shortcut hole, right? That makes sense. I like those. That's fun, right? Separate note, shortcut holes are exciting and meeting goals. Okay, so we like the short, yeah, okay, I understand, yeah. What about you? What's something else. Anyway, I like having to putt around various objects, like, like, when, like that. That's probably a big one for me. Like, I don't know, I'm sure, windmills on this, but somewhere. But like having to, like, when you're when the mini, mini golf. The ball can go, not that the golf ball itself, Mini, but, like, the ball anyway, yeah, um, anyway, when it like, comes out the trunk of an elephant, or, like, through the mouth of an alligator, yeah, it's just fine. Like, that's absolutely necessary, yeah? Like, architectural feature things, yes, yes, yes. SPOR electrically, animals, like I those are just fun. Like dinosaurs, that's a classic. When you go off one, right? Like dinosaurs, or like things like that. Yeah, that's good. I like that too. It's more interesting, right? I also like movement, like movable things, like said windmill, right? Yes, when you have to, when there's like, something moving in the way, right? Like the one where there's or the one where it's, like, there's always something that, like, is going up and down in front of it. You know, there's variations on this theme, but like, there's just something rising and falling in front or the windmill thing, right? Like the timing aspect, to make it like, different. Now you don't, you know, to like, you have to put between the thing right and time it just right. I like that. This other feature you mentioned, movement. I have seen some many golf courses that have something that, like, mechanically transports your ball further than like you would have put like. I've seen a couple. We've played a couple that have like, little conveyor belts where you hit the ball, like, moves your ball up and over, and it kind of does, like a little me's thing on its own. I don't know that's just that's kind of a visually very appealing thing. It's

11:32

fun too, right? Like,

Collin  11:34

yeah, it's fun. So I like, I like conveyor belt. Well,

11:38

that's cool. I've never seen one those, yeah,

Collin  11:40

it's very visually appealing because you're like, we might, you know, anyway, yeah, yeah, it's interesting. I also, like, I also like it when that you have to, like, bounce the ball off a thing, oh, like, ricochet around a corner. Ricochet is important, right? Yeah, you have like, angled piece, right? And you need to, like, bounce the ball off, to, like, Ricochet somewhere where the bouncing becomes, like, really important to the whole Right? Or it's like, again, I like, Yeah, I like bouncing off of things, right? You're having to ricochet the ball and, like, bounce it in a certain way. That's also kind of fun, because it makes it more it's more interesting, right? Because you have to be like, oh, yeah, it goes over the air, kind of planning a shot at like that. This is probably related to the secret holes one in that similar vein, I think also, like the, again, like I said, kind of earlier, piggybacking what I said earlier, the holes that have, like, uh, more than one way to get to the end. You know, I think that's fun. Uh, this may have already been covered in the secret, whole secret pathway thing, yeah, but I really like when the course is multi level. Oh, yeah, where, where you like, oh, look, I just put the hole down. Or, you know when the hole and then it drops down, it's like, oh, it's, it's, it's so far away. Oh

13:02

my gosh, that's true anyway. Well,

Collin  13:04

it's, it's really satisfying, if you like, because sometimes they have the thing where, if you hit it just the right speed, it can, like, keep going down, right? It'll, like, just get to the hole again, and then it'll drop through, like, a pipe, yeah, somewhere else. Yeah, right. So that, like, the verticality is very satisfying, like, when it goes like that, and you can hit it just right, and it goes down through the thing, right? And, yeah, I like that. I also like when there's like, more than one way to get to the final hole. I kind of mentioned that earlier, right? Like, if you can either bounce around something, or maybe there's like a tunnel, but it's like, really hard, like, you have to be like, really exact to hit it in that little pipe, but then it got another way that goes around the outside, like, I like that, where it's like a challenging because you got to choose which direction you're going to hit the ball. Yes, yeah, because it then kind of becomes a, uh, yeah. Kind of not necessarily choose your own adventure, but you have multiple options. Yeah, because like, go for the hard like, it's going to be like, more challenging, but maybe like, it goes, like, directly to the whole whereas the other way is, like, more straightforward, but it's going to take a longer time to get there. You know? I mean, I like that also, we haven't talked about theming, right? Do you care about theming? Or do you just like there to be, like, interesting thing? Oh, I like visually interesting looking. Yes, I like it when it's very, I'm gonna say chaotic. I like an eclectic, like a really eclectic mini golf course for sure, yeah, all right, I do. I do appreciate the ones that are themed, right? Like, there's, like, some of the ones that Branson, it's like, adventury, right? Where there's, like, there was used to be ones like, like, piratey or whatever, right? And so it was, like, the whole thing kind of had the same vibe. I. But I kind of like the mini golf courses that are just like, they're just, like, random stuff all over the place. Yes, agree where it's just, because you never know, because then you're like, what is around this band? I don't know. Yeah, yeah. It's like, oh, this is some weird thing. Like, that's definitely a dinosaur. That's a giant, like, Harbor Bridge. Like, what's happening? Like, exactly, but I can't appreciate, like, a really solid, themed one, like it was done good, like, if it's like, consistent and it's carried through. I do appreciate a theme, but I don't think it's necessary, right? No, certainly not. All right, these are pretty good. He's pretty good, right? I bring all this up, and I wanted to talk about this. It's really important to say that the mini golf course where we went to had none of these things. And then I was wondering what we were building to there. We're building, the disappointment bill is where we're building, right? It's Oh my gosh. It was not, it was not great, right? And I think the kids got really kind of bored, because it lacked all of these things that we were talking about. Oh, right, no. Like, all the holes are kind of the same. It was landscaped with just like Creek gravel. So the whole thing is like Brown, kind of, right. It's also kind of like homemade, a little bit right, like, just the way that they built some of the things. I was like, this is a choice that you made. I don't agree with it at all, but you did make this choice. Yeah, yeah. That makes it that makes it hard, because sometimes the golf courses, I will say they always it's like, initially you could go, oh, well, this, this would be easy to put together, right? Like, I think, like they're deceptively, oh, I'll just do this only smaller or whatever, and it can be cheaper, it can be whatever, but it really does take good design work. The design work is really important, right? Because even even the indoor mini golf in Branson, right? Like, the thing I had going for it is had, like the vibe of being indoors, which was good in Branson in the summer, when it's like a billion degrees outside. But it was also like, none of the holes were overly complicated, but they were also short, right? Oh, so it was just kind of like, bang, bang, bang, do the doodle thing, and then you're done. And so it wasn't like, it didn't take an overly long time. It was kind of short and enjoyable for what it was, and then you were out, right? Yeah. So even though the courses weren't, like, there wasn't a lot of height variation, or, like, any that kind of stuff, because they were indoors and they, you know, I don't know what they're renting the space or whatever, but, like, there wasn't a whole lot of that, but it was interesting enough. And all of the holes were, like, kind of short, and you could just go through them and move right when you're outside in a big space, and then there's, like, nothing visually distinct about any of the holes. So first of all, telling what hole you're on is, like, impossible, because they all look the same, yeah. And then some of them, like, there's not variation between the holes. It's just like, Oh, this one curves long and to the right. This one curves long and to the left, the other left, yeah. Like, I think this, this course may have been designed by a person who's only ever played real golf, actually played mini golf before, right? Yes, it may have been what happened. But like, so it was like, it was okay. But I feel kind of bad because some, some of these kids have never mini golf before. This was, this was their introduction to me golf. And they may never go back, because it was, Oh no, it's been mini golf has been ruined. Yeah, it's sad, right? I know it's close by, it's nearby. It's like, but it's definitely kind of like homemade, definitely just some local people, like, oh, we should make a mini golf course with like, $10 and like, lows, like the garden section too, right? Like, some of some of this, like, a lot of the sides or the whole are garden paver stones. Ah. I they're like, concrete pavers, yeah, that's kind of telling, yeah, yeah, which is also difficult because it means there's gaps in there. Oh, which means you can't bounce the ball,

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right? Yeah, the Ricochet

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options gone. Oh, no. One of my important things you need

Collin  20:17

to be golf course. It's not there. Eek, terrible. So how much time was spent playing, or was they, did they make it through the whole course, hopefully? Well, yeah, we had to, right? So we had so many kids that we did, like, we did, like a stagger start thing, like, we put groups of kids on, like, all the different holes, and then, like, we didn't make everybody start at the beginning, you know what I mean? Yeah, and then so we'd start everybody in a hole, and then we just all rotated through until you got back to the hole you started on right. And it was definitely telling that they were pretty into it at first. And about halfway through, they were all just kind of like, not, all right. But a lot of them was kind of like, all right, how much longer we're gonna be here? Oh, I think part of that, part of that is like they didn't know what they're doing or whatever. But I think another part of that is that there was nothing like visually interesting happening on the course, right? And there wasn't like, a whole lot of different challenges for the golf course, right? It's like every hole was fundamentally the same as the last one, right? There wasn't one hole with like, crazy undulation, and then a windmill and then, like a water thing, and then, like a multi level drop thing like that was not really happening. It was like, all of the holes are pretty much those same I gotcha. I tried. There was a couple differences here and there, but, like, not really, not really, no, not really, oh, and so I think, I think kind of towards the end, a lot of them were just like, No.

22:16

Like, they were like, are we done? How

Collin  22:18

much longer we're gonna be here? I feel bad, because I think that's why, right. I think that's why they they did that, right. Also, some of the holes were just not well designed. So they were, like, way harder than they should have been, right? They were just the way that they were designed, right? Like, I understand the old like, you put the ball up, and then sometimes it like, rolls back really far. But, like, some of them were just not quite laid out well enough for that little gimmick to, like, be functional, because the slope was such that it didn't really look sloppy, right? It was also just kind of like the ground was uneven, and they just built around so, like, it was very difficult to see how it worked. Well, yeah, and when they become impossible to to read, then, yes, then that gets that's frustrating for sure. They're just not fun, right? Because you're like, Well, I don't understand this at all. What's the point of this? Yeah? Like, I know what's happening. I'm whatever. Like, I just give up, right? Like, I don't know. So, so yeah, it's kind of it was all right, but it was definitely not as exciting as I was hoping it was going to be, because, like, when you hear mini golf, you think of like bright colors and like windmills, or potentially all these different elements happening, brown gravel. It's really not the move, right? Like, I don't. I love being unimpressed, right, and distressed by a lot of it, right? It's just not really what I was. It's not the image that when people say, Oh, we're going mini golfing, is exactly not that, right, like this. Just take, just like exactly, all these wonderful things that you could possibly do, all the variety that is out there, the long, storied history of how to put this together and do none of it, yeah, and then do none of it, yeah, enjoy Yeah. Just if you couldn't make a mini golf course, maybe you should go play somebody golf, first, first, somewhere. Ah, so this sounds like it was described to somebody over the phone. Maybe, yeah, somebody literally went, Oh, it's mini golf. Got it? Wait, no, you forgot, like, the fantastical element where there should be, like, a rocket and, like. Or like a giant tree. You know, that is actually a very good point in that conceptually, you think, how hard could this be? Again, it's just small, it's just a smaller golf course, but you just hit that word fantastical, of, that's exactly what mini golf should be. Of this is, it's kind of zany, right? It's whimsy, whimsy, yeah, whimsy, whimsy, yes. It was no whimsy, no whimsy. It kind of felt like you were playing mini golf in a dry creek bed. That's kind of like theming was drought, nailed it. Oh no. But the whimsical factor was, like, zero, right? Like, where's the unicorn, man, where's the like, just weird stuff. Like, I don't even southwest Missouri. I wouldn't even care if you were, like, here's some like, a wacky lawn chair thing happening, like, you know, or, like, perfectly, some random, like, you know, car thing like this, you know, whatever, like, I don't care, but, like, literally nothing. Like, oh, here's a rock. Here's another rock. Now. Now, guess what? Hold on this one. This one's kind of brown. What? Yeah, what, right? Are we crazy? I want you to realize also, listeners, this is a geology teacher telling you that your this mini golf course was boring because there was too many rocks on it, right? Yeah. Just think about that for a minute. Really bad. Latch onto that part. Yeah, that's not. That's how the rocks were. It was not. And some of them were like, actual just like stones that you just like, find, and they just put them on there. And some of them were obstacles on the course, and they were placed in they were like, there was no treatment done to them, right? There was no nothing done to them in any way. So if you hit them with the golf ball. The golf ball would just, like, stick to the rock and, like, there was no bouncing, there was no like, other you should, like, actually, like, physically, pull your ball out and stick it back on the course. Like, that's terrible, yeah, just get stuck in there. Well, that's not cool. Like, what do you do? Hmm, like, a well designed mini golf course, right? I understand there's accidents and freaky things happen, but by and large, the golf ball should never become stuck somewhere, right? Like, and let you know this, weird things happen, and I've had strange things happen golf course. But like, it should not be easy to get your balls lodged in a place where it cannot be played. No, because that defeats the purpose. It's not golfing, right? I guess maybe it does. Yeah. People are like, ooh, sand traps and whatever. But, like,

27:51

no,

Collin  27:52

but it is sand traps. You can, like, hit the ball out again. Yes, you know, I mean, like, in the water feature thing on golf courses. I like, you just, like, that's different, because you just, like, pick it up and put it over there. There's, like, one thing on the there's like, one thing on the court, well, yeah, but like, getting the like, hitting the ball and getting it, like, hitting the wall of the golf course and having the ball just like, get wedged in there and not be able to play, like, what? Yeah, the heck. Why? Why would you do that? Well, so they go, sorry, that was my week. Oh, whimsical lists, mini golfing. Yeah, again, it being in the middle of the week on Wednesday, we just really ruined everybody's, of course, for the whole rest of the week. No, that's a terrible, that's a terrible place to have that i i would dissent next time. I would,

28:49

yeah, yeah. Like, can

Collin  28:51

we do that? Can we do Friday? Is that possible? Like, I don't know. And I don't know if it was possible with, like, the course, or whatever. Like, I, you know, there's all that other stuff. Oh sure, yeah. Like, where they were going, and if they were, I can't imagine there's just have a ton of business in the middle of the day on a Friday. But, you know, who knows? Definitely not me. But, yeah, that was my exciting week. I just wanted your opinion on what makes a good mini golf course. I like this. I like this very much. Yeah, all right. Well, now I we don't. We have one mini golf course place here in town, but it is a closed down for the winter, as most mini golf places should kind of weird. But anyway, so I'm not like cold, so like, I don't, yeah, wow. It's not like a pool, right? No, but it can be uncomfortable to be out. So we should, we have, yeah, we should probably, we should probably try and go again. So, yeah, I kind of want to go to a good one now that I've been here. I didn't actually play this one because I was watching kids and stuff and like, I. I didn't really want to play anyway.

30:03

I saw it right, yeah,

Collin  30:06

no, no, you go on ahead. I'll be Yeah, yeah, I'll catch up with you in a minute. Yeah,

30:13

yeah, to where.

Collin  30:25

Well, we are not mini golfing, but when was the last time you were in a combine? Oh, that's yeah, not the it's been quite a while. I've seen several combines recently, but yeah, I've not been in one. Yes, I was. I can't. I'm trying too much. Person at the time, well, I'm trying to remember up in was it Iowa, where, maybe it wasn't a combine, but we were at least riding in the grain truck. Was that something that we did that sounds right, also potentially Illinois, because, oh, is Illinois? He worked on the farm. So, like, that's also, I mean, it could have been both places. We definitely rode tractors around in Iowa. I know that for sure, yeah, yeah, because I was right. But like, yeah, I would have, I think there was grain trucks in Illinois. Illinois is what it was. Yes, no, I now concur with that, with that assessment. So we have a friend who is and farmer. And I said, and farmer, do you ever you know? Let people come along side you while you farm. Is that something you would do? He was like, I mean, not really. What about what about small boys who love machinery? Yes. What about very tiny humans, not me, not me, obviously, not me. I would just really myself right out, unless, unless, of course, that's okay. And then I would love to do this, but anyway. But he was like, he was like, Yeah, it's fine. I'm I won't want to do it in like, the beginning of harvest, because that's a bit stressful. And I was like, oh, yeah, I know that's fine. But like, don't forget about us, please. He's, he's got 1500 acres of corn. He's not, it's not going anywhere fast, right? Like, anyway. So we are very excited about this tomorrow, going to ride in a combine, an actual harvesting combine. I can't tell you, I'm very excited about dusty, to be super dusty. It's also north of where we are by like, another half hour, and they're even drier than we are. And so it gonna be real bad. I basically would sit on the in the car, on research, uh, trying not to die while my children are gallivanting about in a combine around a giant field. Yeah. We were driving back home on Saturday, Saturday, Saturday, and then a couple of days a week, like one day, but Saturday was the big day. We were driving down the road, and it was like, which driving all sudden, it was like, all this haze, and I was like, fire, what is happening? And as we got closer to the town that we were driving through. It was like, Oh no, no, that's combine all right, got it. It was kicking. It was harvesting wheat, right? It was like, okay, whatever. So it wasn't corn. It was like, wheat. There was so much dust, like, oh my goodness, I was so bad. I'm already sneezing. My body is already sneezing. Physiological response to thinking about corn dust, thinking about corn dust. No, we've so kids are very excited about doing this. It's he's also, it's also like, I forget something about the equipment, where it's kind of also been breaking down a little bit. So we might not get to this, but this has been the talk of our, you know, place, at least for quite a long time. But it really started when we were talking about doing some repairs. So on our, on our we have a Honda, it's a 2000 and doesn't it five, Honda Accord, and

34:26

we've given up on selling the Honda as it's not going well, well, so

Collin  34:30

at this point, I'm like, I have been driving. I've had to drive so much at this point, that's true. Yeah, it's actually very beneficial to have three cars, because when, like, we're just going insane. So a couple months ago, when we just started to get, like, it was about a month, a month or two ago, where just kind of was getting to those mornings where you're like, Oh, it's a Oh, it's kind of cool today. Yeah. Like, like a week ago, like, maybe we had morning where it was kind of cool, like, it's been, like, not really, I remember how you did it down here. Sorry, it's been, like, two weeks. But like, I would go, and it has a dual climate control, and I took my driver's side and I went, I just want a little bit more heat. And I always, I'm, I don't know how you are on this. I don't know how you control your AC. It's, it's for your own your AC, your choice. So you I like to push the auto button. If there's an auto button in a car, I like to push auto I set the temperature, and then I let the car sort it out. I'm just like, you do the work for me. Do you have opinions on this? Uh, yeah. I mean, like, I want to fiddle with it as little as possible, right? So I think in our car works. Our car has the climate thing. You just, like, put it on the deal and just leave it alone, right? Yeah. But generally, that's what I do. I don't really care. Sometimes I do, like, in the winter, I'm like, where is the heat I need? I need this going on. But like, yeah, I don't mess with it anymore. Like, back in the day, when I had the old, you know, slider heat thing, right? I just it's as long as there was air moving, right? It didn't really because, I mean, my old car, like, the air conditioner didn't really work right, like, so the fan on right side, but yeah, now I just leave. I don't mess with it, really. I just leave it alone. And every once while, I turn on the seat warmer thing. Like, in the morning, if it's, like, really cold, just turn on the seat warmer deal, and then turn it off after a little bit, because it gets too hot. Yeah? Like, yeah. There you go, yeah. So that's what I do. So I just had it on auto. And usually, whenever you go to heat the car is automatically going to do two things. It's going to split it. It's going to throw it on the dash, right, so throw on the windshield, defrost. It's going to throw it to your feet. Typically it's it very rarely, will automatically just blast it in your face. Ours does that sometimes, oh, like you have to tell it where you want it to go. Okay? Megan is very much like No, no, where do you want this Now, none of our cars will let us direct. If it's on auto, it will decide if I have an auto, then maybe that's not, yeah. So we have an auto button, and if you press it on auto, that's basically like car. You decide how fast it blows and where it blows, and I set the temperature. Oh, yeah, I don't do that then, because, okay, I always I mess with the fan speed and whether or not the AC is on, or if it's just a fan, or if it's the heat, or Yeah. So I don't do that. Okay? I guess we probably have one, but I don't push it. Megan hates this feature because she always wants the heat blowing directly on her face. She doesn't want it anywhere else the car, right? That's a very Megan thing to do. I put it on auto. She merely collects it off, and then our windows fog up. But that's fine. It's look, it's a different that's for another time. So I had on auto, and I flipped it and I'm driving, and it was still those time, time where I was wearing just shorts, and I'm driving down the road, and I noticed that the driver's side is blowing cold air, and not like, not just like outside temperature cold air, but like air conditioned air at my feet. Now, I have had this happen before, where in a Jeep that I used to own, I was driving, and it was cold, and I didn't let it warm up, and I'm driving, and it started blowing cold air at me through the vents, and then the radiator exploded because the release valve didn't open, probably do its thing. So I immediately panic and stay on the brakes. I'm like, Oh my gosh. But also my right side of my face is kind of vaguely warm. I'm like, hand on my vents, and they're freezing cold. I reach over to the passenger vent, and it is blazing hot air, and I'm like, Ha, like, what is going on? And so I die on my thing. And no matter what temperature I set at it, like, if I do cold, it'll blow on the face. And if I do too hot, it'll it'll blow on the feet and on the windshield, and it's all cold air. And I boy howdy. I was like, I don't, I don't have time to deal with this. I I'm just busy. So it got put off for two months, and then when we started getting into, like, the frost zone. I was like, I really need to do something about this, because this is not going to be good this winter if I'm still driving this and it just blows air conditioning at me, and the only way that you get the car to, like the cabin, to warm up is basically direct all of the air vents away from you, of your face turn. Off auto directed to blow in the air vents, and then crank the passenger side all the way to heat, and then hopefully that that would slowly warm up. Because, mean, meanwhile, the driver side is blowing air conditioned air, so you're really fighting one another. Now, usually, anyway, so I figured this is just how Megan has done something, right? So this is your driving. She can just have heat no matter what time it is, no matter what time of year it is, she's just always like heat on her. Like, I didn't want to go down this conspiracy road. However, I think maybe think that we may have to do some further more investigations on this, be that as it may went to the research and, man, let me tell you, I this is another this is the way I could never be a mechanic, because the solutions to this problem were everything from like a $5 part All the way to like a multi 1000 diagnostic like, hate replacing the heater core and all this stuff. But every time I Googled my symptoms, the thing that kept coming up would be, driver, blows hot, passenger, blows cold. And I thought, but I have the opposite problem, all from England, by the chance. Oh, you know what? I didn't actually look but I do know at least I believe that my model of Honda was not sold in the UK. But okay, okay. So what I realized was Japan or Australia. But I realized was, when people were saying blowing hot, they were saying, I wanted air conditioning, but it was blowing it wasn't blowing air air AC, right? They were saying hot air. I'm saying no, it's literally blowing a heater on one side and air conditioning. When I, when I started doing that search of like, driver side only blows air conditioning, passenger will blow whatever. That's when I started to get some more things. And so I found that these, there are two, there's two things. It's, I forget the actual name of this, and the guy at O'Reilly's just did what he did the well actually to me. And I was like, I don't do you know the part of which I speak. I don't care if I just give me the part number. I watched a video on how to do this. I need this part right now. It's like a driver's driver, so driver's side, heat, door actuator, or something random like that. I don't remember what it is. It basically, is this swivel that will open one and shut the other as it needs the heat or the air conditioning, right? Because basically those are technically running at all times, especially the heat, right? It's just gonna, yeah, all that in, just where you diverting it to exactly. And so that thing was, like, try Look at this. So I had to, like, dismantle the underside of the dash. I was crawling in here. And let me tell you, I had Noah was, like, all about this. Like, yeah. Like, I this was the coolest thing that he, like we had, we have ever done in his mind, like there is nothing will beat this for a very long time, like he went and especially when there's this support beam that goes, that cuts across the steering column, and it cuts so close to the nut that I needed that you could not get a full sized screwdriver in between there. And so the guy was like, Oh, well, all you have to do is remove this support beam, get a full size screwdriver in there, and you'll be fine. Well, using even using my impact driver, I could not get this thing to loosen. And then I thought, it's removing support, beat support, and it's been there for 20 years. Who knows how much this is supporting right now, I need to leave this there. So I I left it to there. Feel like me And Noah went and grabbed his own toolbox, because he has his own little toolbox that we've put together. And in there is the short, little, stubby, fat, oh yeah, hey, yeah, handle. It's like, one inch long, exactly, exactly. And He came down, he was like, what about this, dad. And I was like, You, sir, you get a gold star. Genius, genius. And it worked. It stinking worked. Got it out there, and it was cool to show him, like, here's here. I'm changing the the temperature and and this arm is supposed to move, and it's not. And so we went, we got the new part. Plugged it in, and then I could change the temperature, and he could see that arm move like, see, this is controlling it. And then we got it hooked up and positioned and on the dampers. And so I could show him how was opening one while simultaneously, while closing another. See all the different positions it had. This was, it was a lot of fun. And I literally got it installed, and then three days later, we were like, yeah, it's 31 degrees in the morning. And I was like, Ah, this is wonderful. Good timing me, perfect. We did it. So, yeah, that's what that so it was a lot of fun. That was, that was our big project this week was getting, getting, I guess, technically, it was like late last it was Saturday. It was this past Saturday, actually, yeah. So that was our big Saturday project. Got up, taken care of last Sunday. I had a small project. I had to replace the headlight. So that was nowhere near, oh that. Well, like you say that, but Well, my car, it's not a problem, right? I have done it on other cars before. So we did it on a car before, one of the old cars we had, and I had to, like, remove the entire front end of the car to change a headlight, and it was the most annoying thing that I've ever seen my entire life. What so I know, like, say what you want to about Chrysler and their weird knob shifty thing. This is the best headlight solution I've ever seen. Okay? I do right? You uh, turn the steering wheel to the side, right point, it like, away from where you're going. So I, like, I was changing the driver's headlight, so I just crank the steering wheel to the right. You know, in the wheel well, there's a panel that pops off, and then you just stick your hand forward from the wheel well, and you encounter a sealed compartment, right? It's like, this big pressure seal thing, give it the old quarter turn, and it pops off. And you stick your hand in there, and that's the headlight bulb. What? Yeah, so you just, like, reach your arm way up in there and unscrew it, and it pops out. You can pull the bulb out, and then it just, you can pull the all the way out, unclip the bulb, clip it back in there, and then just stick it all the way back up in there and turn it well, that's ridiculous. It's great. That's annoying. It's the best thing ever, right? This is as I'll get props here. This is so well designed because right there are big tabs on the side of the thing that you're putting into that you're slotting it in. So the mount that the light is on, there's these big tabs so you can feel because you can't see anything, there's no way you could see, right? It's impossible, but you can definitely feel okay. There's one long tab here on this bracket. When I feel around the opening, there is one space for one long tab. All you have to do is, just by feel, you can very quickly line it up and then just quarter turn band locked in, okay, that's, that's very smart engineering. It's very good engineering, making it so that they're like, Okay, one thing you need to put this in is your site. What if you don't have that, or what if you can't have that here? Ah, yeah, yeah. So there's like, three tabs, right? And one of them is, like, really long, so it's very clear. Oh, you just lay it in like that, and then it clicks in. And the little, the little screw thing that, like seals of it is the same way. There's just, like one area, one part of it's kind of brown thing with ribbing on it so you can hold it. And then there's, like, a tab off the side. And when you feel in there, the whole thing is smooth around the edge, except for one area, there's a flat spot, which is where that tab goes. And then it just, you know, and then you can just pull the flap and under the wheel well, and, like, turn the little plastic thing that is impossible to find anything to fit in there, because it's like, one of those, like plastic deals. It's like, really wide, so you can't use a screwdriver. So I used a picture mounting bracket that I had, stuck it in there, and just like, yeah, they go. It's wonderful finding non traditional items too. I'm supposed to use for this thing, because, like, again, it's, like, it's plastic and it's pretty wide, but it's also like, over half an inch in diameter. So like, what? Keep a screwdriver in there that's gonna just, like, eat the plastic. Up. So you need something that's like really long but also really thin and flat. Picture mounting bracket, boom. The other option was razor blade. And I figured, you know, that's probably not the best plan, so it means I would have to hold the blade of the rage blade, because the back end would fit into the thing better. And I thought, probably shouldn't do that. That would probably be bad. It ended up cutting my finger somehow, anyway, even though. But like, well, that's so fun, yeah, but it's alright. So that was, yeah, as much less exciting car project, but it was made faster. Yeah, this isn't the best design headlight system I've ever seen, right? Except for, like, my super old car that you could just, like, you just literally popped it out and, okay, well, there was enough room there you could wasn't just popping it out. It was like, yeah, it was eight feet of eight feet of wood in the car. So it didn't matter. Could lay down a cot in there and then roll over and you're sling, you know, and you're sling, and go, Oh, this. I'll just take care of this real quick after my nap. Yeah, it's pretty much I thought when I changed a thermostat in that car too, just like sit inside the engines All right, there you go. Got it, yes, well, and that was helpful too, because when, because I was able to get Noah using the screwdriver and a couple other pieces and removing these panels. And of course, underneath that, all of a sudden, you see all of the wires tucked in and hidden. And again, this cars that we're working on is 20 years old, so it's even more insane with more modern cars. And he actually said, I didn't know there'd be this many wires under here. I said, yeah, they're controlling all sorts of things that carpet in the floor, yeah, yeah. Or all the the cable and the bundles that run along, you know, the main pillar, door games, yeah, the door and that stuff. And they're like, that's insane. And of course, right in the driver's side, like, that's the MO and we're working right next to the center console too. So that's where the Yeah, all the brain computer and stuff is to control the hybrid system and everything like that. So like, lots going on. Because, like, I had no idea there'd be this many wires, yeah, so be careful. Only touch this one please. Yeah, we're just it's just a blast. We our back door has always been a little weird to open and shut, and you've always had to give it like a little bit of an extra push. Well, also this past weekend, as I had my victory for my car or leveling, here we go, yes. Well, the problem here is that this door, when we moved in, it was like, kind of okay. But as it's been shut and open and shut and open and shut and open and as I have railed against the universe about door slamming, slamming doors. Because, of course, as the door gets harder to shut, what is, what are people's natural tendencies? Well, just shut the door harder. Yeah, which? But no, no, that makes the door harder to shut. So you had to shut the door harder. And what I finally cut to the end of the story, what I finally realized is what was happening is the door was becoming unlevel, but to make matters worse, on the underside, so when you shut the door, on the underside of it was actually like three strips of rubber that were kind of like windshield wiper width seal the bottom, against the door, against the threshold. Those had been slowly, kind of like tearing and ripping and whatever. And then ex this accelerated, and the bottom lip of this plastic thing was then catching on the threshold, and so as it was catching on the threshold, what you were actually pushing against was this piece of rubber being bent backwards as it scraped across the threshold. But it wasn't just a little piece of rubber. It was a big, thick piece of rubber, like hard plastic. And what this was doing was actually pulling the threshold up and raising the threshold up so that as you pushed it, it just slammed into that. And I have, I have worked on leveling the door. I have tried to level the door. It needs a lot more work than what I can do. And so I said, How much can a door cost?

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Oh, I don't think. Want to know the answer that question, oh, how

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much good door cost, right? Like, there's a door I want. And Megan, I was like, what would we get? And Megan was like, Well, I want this door. And I was like, I want this store too. It's got, it's what, it's when, when you are, when you're describing your stuff to a salesperson, and their eyebrows go up when you say words. This means that it is very costly, yes, because what I have learned is that thankfully, thankfully, thank God, finally, we have a standard sized something in this house, because that's not something I've ever encountered before. It's like, oh, you need new window thing. Oh, you, you have a weird custom window that was designed 17 years ago, and nobody's ever made it sense or like, Oh, you've got this weird anyway, nothing is standard in this house because they just were all like, oh, we'll fix it. We'll make it. We'll make it work. Well, I have a standard door in the back, but when the lady said the word full light, and she was like, Oh, it's a full light door. And I went, Yes. She went, Okay, because when I we have a, it's a basically, like window in our door. Oh, okay, okay, okay, the top to bottom window in our door. And then, and I said, Oh. And she was, okay, well, we can, we don't have any of those here in the store. And I was like, oh, that's also a bad sign, like, you know, no. And I said, she was, is there anything else that you want your that your door has? I was like, Oh, well, inside the window are these, like, little blind thingies. And she goes, Oh, ODL. And I went, Oh, jerk, uh, they're little, still blind thingies. And she goes, okay, yeah, I definitely don't have anything like that in the stomach. Oh no, oh no. And then we're just like, we're just like, we're just trying to get a ballpark. I've never bought a door before. Like, I've never bought one. Weirdly, six, five years ago, we entered into a contest, and we won a door. You do, they were giving away something, and we entered it randomly. And if you'd have to talk to Megan about this, but it was from a hardware store, like, an hour and a half away. And her aunt brought us this door, and it sat in our garage for a really long time, and then at the time our neighbor, who was in construction, bought it from us. It was weird, whatever, you know, anyway, um, we were like, No, it's just ballpark, because I've never bought just a door before. I How much do these things, how much would something like this run? She was like, Well, I mean, I've seen him go up to, like, five, $6,000 so, but I you'd have to talk with the salesman. And I was like, oh, that's, I didn't want that. What? Oh, my gosh, that's crazy. I don't what, okay, that's nuts. Like, yeah, now it turns out that's for like, big crazy, big crazy, like, double doors with, like, the side window, peaky peak windows, or whatever they're called on them, on the side and like, they're made out of the whole the whole board, like the whole system, okay, okay, not just, like the whole entry, yeah, not just the actual tree, yes, yes. That's, that's where this and but so that's where this comes in of, of, if we have a threshold, if we've got a frame and it's off the frame, how much do we try to jerk around with a door that needs replaced, but it's in a frame? So we were like, well, I don't know. So the guy came out, he looked at it, and he he was like, So tell me, like, do you want it color matched, or like you want? And Megan, it was the easiest thing, because we were just like, see that door right there. We want that? Yeah. He kept, he kept asking questions. And I'd go, I don't know, does that door have it? And he Oh no. And I was like, then, no, I don't want, I want, literally, that door, yeah, I just want find me something that looks like this to that one there, that one, and I don't know how to tell you this any other way, literally, that door. I What? Well, do you want? No that. So with the guy, yeah? Like, you're not really not understanding. He's like, Well, what prompted you to want to get a new door? You doing a redesign? This one's broken? Yeah, broken, broken. And I want a new one. And when I say new one, I want that one. But working, can we do that? Like, yeah? That's kind of repair. I Oh my gosh. I don't and I understand like he's got to go through, he's got to he's got a pitch and he's got a stuff. But I was just oh my gosh. So he, he went through, and it's not $5,000 but it's, it's good. It's not a, yeah, it's not a price that I was like, Oh, that makes me happy, right? That makes me happy to hear that, right? But yeah. So I was like, well, we're not in a super big rush, because it does kind of work now. So so we'll have to think about also, I'm not really interested in getting into a big project like this going into winter, because I was like, what's the lead time? He's like, Well, the door is, like, at least 30 days out, and then once it comes in, and this is the whole, it's called, oh, it's called, like, what is it called? Like, a cast something, case. It's the whole thing. It's all frame and everything that inserts into the wall. Oh, yeah. It's not just the thing that the door fringes. It's the door frame and the trimming and stuff like, it's all of that. And he's like, Well, and then once the door comes in, you know, that's 30 days out from whenever we order it, and then they're scheduling like, two or three weeks out from that. And I'm looking at my head, I'm like, well, that's Christmas. Like, like, what are we talking like? Like, that's yeah. Like, made you order these doors directly from the factory. Like, Yo, make this door. Like, what the wild? Yep, yep. And I was like, I think we've got to try and make this last until spring, because I'm not interested in having a gaping hole in my house for any stretch of time. Yeah, you know. And he assured me that, well, no, no, no, they prep and they do so that you can just slot it in and reseal and trim and you'll be fine. And in my head going, it's never fine. It's never. It never is fine, right? No construction project ever is like, yes, on time, on target, like it's not, let alone when you're opening up a hole in a 100 year old home like this, the words it'll be fine have never been uttered, have never been fulfilled in anything done with this home, like everything is always very complicated with because it's always Well, normally, Right? Like, but in a year old home, well, anything I don't know. And, like, right? I forgot. Like, yes, it's for whatever reason. So I'm like, Yeah, you say it's gonna take. They can get it all done in a day once they start to finish. But I don't believe you. But, like, what if they don't? Like, ah. So anyway, and it turns out we use our back door like way more than our front door like way more. So that's the kind of adding insult to injury through this entire process. Yeah, and you know, beings that you just probably use it more now than you were, because now you have a another dog. So it's even more back door that needs to go out all time. Yeah, right, like, so that does not sound very appealing at all, right, the door saga sounds awful. So, yeah. So we've won. We've won some with heat in the car. We've lost some with a door in the house. But concerns what we're we're doing, yep, not too bad. Well, the door thing is kind of annoying, but if it can be put off till later, that's good. All right, we're gonna, like, urgent door surgery needs to happen, right? Like, that's good. Sure, gonna try. Oh, man, all right, well, yeah, oh, we did survive our big, uh, weekend of driving. Yes, it managed that, right? Going to all the the events, right, and everything. So this, this week, tomorrow, literally nothing. So boom, there we go, dude, literally nothing, literally nothing. So that's going to feel good. It is going to feel good because it was a little bit hectic last time, like there was a lot hectic, I'm not gonna lie to you so good. Oh man. But we made it somehow, someway, which it is, and we came through, even though I had to drive all over everywhere, middle nowhere. Literally, the middle of nowhere. And so that was great. The problem again, the southern Missouri problem reared its ugly head because we had to get to, like, this one place in Arkansas, and there's, like, not a road that goes there. Oh, I hate that, right? So we had to, like, go way over here, and then, like, like, getting from here to, like, south of Branson is so annoyingly impossible. Not to mention there's a bill lake right in the way, so you just can't go right. You have to go, like, some weird way, and then down this way, some like the world curvious Road, where somebody's driving 40 miles an hour forever, like it's just really bad, yeah, so it was really Yeah, the driving was not wonderful, but we did it. It was good times. We got a lot of things done, but man died, tired of people. I was like, Oh, I'm so exhausted. I cannot, I cannot actually function so much social battery, ah, yeah, because you did all, because you had two, what the two weddings in the quinceanera, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So the first wedding, it was like a receptiony thing, but it was like all day long. So we only were there for like, a little while in the early afternoon. We just thought about, we saw the bride and her family, and then that was kind of it. They were gonna, you know, do some stuff, but we're like, listen, we got a long way to drive, so we're gonna have to bounce. So we did get see them hang out for a little bit, nothing crazy. And then then we went to, it was, like a reception thing. And then we drove to Arkansas to, like, the we watched the wedding ceremony. Oh, okay. And then stayed and talked just for like, a little bit to some people, and then we drove back and went to keen state time. So, yeah, that was, it was a long stayed hydrated, hopefully, yes, did long, long way. But it's right to the it's pretty good. Got back to the quince A for the thing. And we did there was, like, the ones that those ones are a little bit different, like the it's because it's a Guatemalan one. And this, like particular church, they have, like, a big, long church service that's involved with it. So we missed part of the church service. It's alright. And then we got to see everybody. We ate and we, like, hung out and stuff. And then we went home. So we didn't get home till like, 1030 oh my gosh, that's a long day. It was a long day, but, you know, it's all right, so oof, but it was long. So it was fun. It was fun. It was worth it to see other people. But still, the next day, I was like, no, no, not moving. I'm staying right here. All right. You want to go anywhere? Yeah? No, thank you. But we did survive somehow, someway, so that's good. And I did remember to write my redemption haiku. Oh yes, if I forgot last week,

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dude, forget, because I got excited about other stuff, so got

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all distracted on the other thing. So I do have a haiku here. Why is that there? All right, sorry, I was, I did. I fully intended to side note here. I was going to put this through to stay on theme for the last several months, I was going to try to put this through a old English or a Middle English translator, right? Oh, it turns out, every time I put it in through the translator, it gave me like, different words. And I was like, I don't think this AI is really

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I'm gonna abandon this plan. Oh, interesting. Yeah. It kept giving me

Collin  1:09:25

like, different phrases or different spellings. And I know that Middle English did not have like, standardized spelling, yes, but I was still like, maybe not. No, maybe not. And it was annoying because it also kept giving me different syllable lengths for words. And so I thought, this will never do. When I have, I can only have a certain number of syllables. This will only have, yeah, okay, I'll have 17. Okay. I need. I have very, very limited space. So if you have a redemption, I can do. Right, sure, so you go. The Fallen lay strewn. Sentinels silently stand mourning loss of kin. Do I? Bang. That's like, that's you go. I was trying to combine. I was thinking. I was thinking about, like, epic medieval poetry, and also, like, I was equating right, give the game away. Here I was games. I was thinking about that right, like knights, stoic, connecting King, Arthur, court plus falling leaves, right? Double doubles meanings over there. I like it, yes, double meanings like that. Oh, good. Ah, all right, oh, oh, we leave happy, uh, five year anniversary, by the way. Oh, Willy, wow. Uh, October 15, 2019, oh, my goodness. And it officially when the madness officially began. So, wow, yeah, wow, there we go. How about them apples that I was not expecting them apples?

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That's Oh, some nice surprise apples. Yeah, really, yes,

Collin  1:11:38

yeah, five years.

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Wowzer.

Collin  1:11:42

All there. So congratulations. Big job.

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I'm remembering this time. That's good too. Nicely done.

Collin  1:11:51

Well, I been staring at it for like, a week on my calendar. I've just been like, oh, must not forget. Must I forget? I'm gonna say it, they go, that's why your spammer, your scammer, knew that he wanted you need to optimize Exactly, exactly he knew he's like, man, he's got five years. Come on. Oh my gosh. I love those emails. Yeah, have more emails to respond to. All right, we'll, uh, we go. I'm gonna just go double check my internet too. I don't know what's going on. I'm very concerned. But, uh, held out the rest of the time here. So did just fine. Good, for some reason, sounds weird, maybe some really old reset. It's a scared part. Thought I was gonna turn off forever. Yeah, don't

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do that. Okay. Well, until next time, until next time, love you. Love with you.

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Bye, bye, you.